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Listen people i remember when a very small start-up named Tesla went into full production everyone said it would fail and they're still here, lucid has everything it needs to succeed
Lucid is great car and far better than plastic box + ipad car. Will take some time. Lucid need to focus on production across globe. By 2028 it will speedup
They are in the premium luxury market. Production isn’t their problem. Demand, software, service and ownership experience are their biggest issues. They can barely sell the vehicles they have now. Making bulk sales deals with their Saudi owners in exchange for big investment infusions is the only reason they are still alive. They are lucky to even steal the small number of sales from other premium luxury brands thanks to their fancy marketing/advertising
Lucid needs to collaborate with Chinese automobile manufacturers to establish a complete industrial chain in China and launch more affordable products that meet the needs of most users with its outstanding technological advantages, such as producing cost-effective SUV electric vehicles and household sedans worth around $25000 at lower costs in China.lucid 需要与中国汽车生厂商合作在中国建立完整的产业链并以其出色的技术优势推出更廉价的符合大多数用户需求的产品，例如在中国以更低成本生产性价比更高的SUV电动车和2.5万美金左右的家用轿车。 @Peter Rawlinson
I talk to a lot of people about EVs and almost nobody has heard of Lucid, even in my area of the world where EVs are high selling. Somehow Lucid needs to get more name recognition and people need to learn about how well they are built - powertrain, interior, etc.
It is hard for Lucid, but - I keep my fgingers crossed, It is great looking, efficent, spacious but not huge. It is much nicer than rivians, than all teslas, mercedes, bmw - but timing is difficult.
I cant afford either model and when someone says $80k is worth it but $95k is outrageous, I think to myself, at that level, does it matter? Seems to me anyone who can afford an $80k car can probably afford a $95k car. The percentage of extra price seems small. $15k difference on a subcompact is huge, on this, not so much.
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu Base model of the Volvo EX90 comes with almost everything Lucid is charging extra for at $81k. Gravity Touring has more 3rd row room and better efficiency. Engineers love efficiency but the real world advantage is minimal at a given range. 2.5 mi/kwh vs. 3.5 mi/kwh at 20 cents/kwh saves only about $2,300 over 100,000 miles of driving.
do your research before typing. If you are referring to the 300 million that was in stock grants, he didn't sell a single share and it isn't worth 300 million in today's price.
@@fayewong21 stock grants r not any better because it dilute shareholder value driving the stock price down when he increases outstanding shares from thin air, mfer CEO pissing us off , how about mark the company profitable first before fking paying out urself in 300 million, no person needs that amount of money for themselves especially at his age
If people are willing to dish out over $100,00 for the Cybertruck, then it’s not a stretch for there to be a significant market for this. Both are over-the-top, but there are a lot of over-the-top impractical customers out there.
The Cybertruck is the issue. It has FSD, in mass production, hit break even, and is well liked. The market over $100k is tiny and is dominated, in volume, by Cybertruck. Unless you are predicting a collapse in Cybertruck sales, there isn't much space for the gravity at $95k. Hence why Cybertruck is dropping to $80k.
@ I don’t dispute that. I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if a significant number of customers waste their money on the Gravity. Really expensive trucks and SUVs are the U.S car market’s bread and butter. Whether people like it or not is a separate issue. They may not, but we’ll have to wait and see. Also, I don’t think Lucid will survive based on its sales, but they have Saudi oil money backing them so who knows.
@jaybird2023 Some customers will buy the Gravity. Lucid needs more volume than Cybertruck to break even though. I am personally curious when the $60k Cybertruck reaches break even.
@dobbo7690 The reservation list has always mostly been the cheapest model. Good news is Tesla achieved break even and that usually means a sharp (>10%) drop in unit costs the following quarter. As it remains the #1 selling vehicle above $100k, are you proposing a collapse in all high end vehicle sales? Tesla just filed for permits to double capacity in Austin, I think they are ok. I believe most of the new capacity will be Cybertruck.
Lucid has been talking about its tech prowess, engineering, Lucid Air and now has shifted the focus to the Gravity, its new savior. In the same timeframe, Chinese EV makers like Xpeng, Nio, Xiaomi, Zeekr, Avatr, and BYD have cranked out multiple models each and have been quietly delivering them without fanfare. Even premium Chinese brands make 1,000 cars per day, while Lucid is currently building about 20 cars per day and struggles to sell them. Why are they struggling so hard to sell their reportedly excellent cars? Vendor viability concerns? Lack of brand recognition? Too expensive?
many Tesla fanboys is trying to change the story, they will scream Saudi company, 300 million pay for CEO, or say car is too expensive/look like a minivan as a poor excuse because they cannot give you a better argument . they are afraid of competition.
Bro, you’ve been bashing Lucid for 3 years now saying they are going to go under. Instead their sales have increased 70% QoQ, they are outselling the Model S, and they just opened reservations on fantastic new product. What’s wrong with you?? 🤣🤣🤣
Lucid has done some rather clever engineering. Their software is good, aerodynamics are top notch and their drive unit is an engineering marvel. They should be doing much better.
@@borshardsd The energy density of (and everything else about) the Lucid motor is indeed the best. The chassis and suspension are A-grade although admittedly without massive castings. The electrical architecture - 924V - was done right from the outset and long before other EV companies worked out that high voltage matters. Today, after learning on the job how not to make a car, the chassis of a Tesla vehicle is very good. The Lucid battery is okay and much better than most EV batteries out there today owing to its racing heritage. But, batteries are big big business and Lucid will have to cede some control to CATL or BYD or some other specialist partner, in time. It wouldn't shock me if Lucid decided to move towards the use of an industry standard blade cell if and when a technically refined standard for such a thing emerges.
@chris27gea58 chirp chirp chirp, wow so amazing, so you say it's the best but the best meaning? Strongest? Cheapest to create while providing adequate value? Which is it? Highest stats at the most expensive price? What is the best? Maybe the best is what is actually selling? A product that provides enough value at the right price. Hmmm that sounds much better than any LUCID out there. Mg seems better than lucid =D but please talk about the best! Not selling or succeeding is not the best even if you think it is. You want to sell or be the best?
The media surrounding Fisker has doomed flaling companies like Lucid. It will create great hesitation w consumers that otherwise may purchase the gravity..
here specs; 1- 440+ mile, (longest range) 2- 118 , 440/118=3.7 mi/kwh, (the most efficient SUV) 3- 200 mile within 15 minutes (fast charging) 4- the materials the same with Bentley (Luxurious) 5- more leg room rather than any SUV in market 6- do u want more?
I think differently, with the best technology in expensive cars, it takes a long time to build a pillar and go down, but it creates the company's image and weight Starting with low-cost cars? Look at Polestar
I have a Lucid Air Touring, it's an amazing vehicle!! But, I agree with many on this board, Lucid's CEO is GROSSLY overpaid. He is the wrong guy for the job!
They can save on the salary of the CEO. Clearly. Wished the video was more about their cars, the position in the market, the real stuff and obstacles up front with the financial troubles later. 95K explains pretty much all. The thing looks more like 35K-40K as a reasonable ask.
By leveraging its own technological advantages and relying on China's complete supply chain system to create a more cost-effective vehicle priced at 25,000 US dollars, Lucid may achieve sustainable development. 在发挥自身技术优势的情况下，借助中国完善的供应链体系打造2.5w美金更具性价比的车型，lucid才可能持续发展！
@@lucalaborante6931 change your own meds. The company will go private long before any bankruptcy. Not good for shareholders, but I don't think PIF cares about that. Read before you post.
@@chris27gea58 Your ignorance is breathtaking. IN FACT, the Lucid guy should have the same type of deal as Musk. Why? They made a deal with him with totally unrealistic goals he had to meet - in lieu of pay - and he met them. No one thought he would. What exactly is the hypocrisy about that? How many people do you know that would sign up to that? Certainly not the Lucid guy! But Elon did because he believed in himself and what he does. An agreement is an agreement and he took NO SALARY - unlike the Lucid guy - and instead signed up to unrealistic goals and then met them. Understand? What's the problem? Something Musk haters don't appreciate is what he has accomplished with Tesla. How can you not appreciate that when no one else in America has even come close to building a profitable EV company despite the hundreds of headlines over the years of all the 'Tesla killers' that are gonna eat Musk's lunch... Not even close!
@@travisjazzbo3490You are very naive and that hypocrisy I mentioned is coming through loud and clear in your comment. Tesla fanboys are nothing if not a) sanctimonious blowhards and b) hypocrites, and they really don't like it when that is pointed out to them.
Car very poor looking. Looks just one thing but when spending $100k want to vehicle to have a good appearance. Too nobody except jay leno to take chance to buy at this high price as looks like to go bankrupt. Once bankrupt no service or spare parts so a 2 or 3 ton paper weight.
Lucids are beautifully made. great engineering, luxury interior, awesome range... where Tesla always wins is the software. They are ready for tomorrow. It's a hard moat for everyone else to cross.
It wont save them. I just tried out the configuration on the new Gravity and the SUV at the price they launched it does not include things that are standard in lower class EV and non-EV models (like lane centering for example). They really look like they're attempting to collapse the stock price. If they weren't they would have done away with Peter as their CEO and hired seasoned Auto industry individuals as they have more than enough capital for this. Increasing their sales is not a way out for them. They have the best product on the market right now. They do not have to deal with Unions as far as labor is concerned. They have every advantage to become profitable however without the proper leaders they will go the way of Fisker.
Is just hilarious to me that a car company making BEVs is being supported by oil money. Talk about an environmental slap in the face. I hope this fact was not lost on rich environmentally conscious consumers.
The end of profitable Oil revenues is on the horizon, Oil money is going into the energy transition now. These people are first and foremost businessmen.
Gravity is an impressive vehicle. Really like it. However, I agree with your assessment that it is just way too expensive to become popular. Lucid needs a volume vehicle, a Model Y competitor and with similar price range.
I thought the sedan looked awkward. The suv look even worse. Only talking looks maybe so good things under sheet metal but can’t get by poor appearance.
It doesn't have NACS so I'm not going to buy it. Why are these EV companies so behind? No one wants their cars if you can't charge it with the supercharger network
Gravity will save Lucid? So why make sedans first before making a SUV then? And this is the highest paid CEO? Who does not even know simple fact that a mid-size SUV is an absolute king these days, that's where all the money is? And again now, they did not make mid size SUV, they made big SUV which is too expensive. This company is run by not very smart people clearly.
It is real simple: (1) Lucid has the best technology and the best product; (2) EVs are the future and EV demand will keep going up; (3) Lucid's Saudi investors will never stop backing them ( Lucid is part of their long-term diversification and energy ambitions, which is why they build the first ever EV factory in the region -- they will not let this project fail for a number of reasons and will keep pumping money into it). In other words, this company is not going anywhere.
Tesla can have the best technology, but they realize that the market doesn't want to pay the extra $50,000 for that extra 10% in technology. Also, Tesla doesn't want to lose $50,000on each car they sell.
@@masoodrazaq True, but as you say, it is worth $6 billion now. By 2030, it will be several times that and Saudis will keep doubling down until that happens. The point is that, unlike your usual US company, they have had and will continue to have an unusually long runway to build the brand first and scale up later.
. Definitely lot of biased negativity reporting. Those who love the company promote Lucid . Let it not fail for the greed, it is a US designed and manufactured car.
Kind of a shame since I think they look great. Tesla were the coolest cars, but they're so prevalent in Australia I'm getting tired of their design language. The Cybertruck was very different but the harsh angles don't do it for me. I like some of the Chinese EVs like Nio, Xpeng and BYD. Rivian is also a great look but I don't think they're in Australia yet.
We heard Tesla was dead, by Q4 2016 latest….so…… If three isn’t room for Lucid’s terrific electric vehicles in the electric vehicle market. Then something larger is wrong.
Plenty of ICE cars way above this price and with far less performance. Plenty of rich people happy to pay. They need to get their marketing going though. Technology and design is so far ahead but the batteries will be old hat within 12 months or so.
Lucid problems stem from leadership and like Rivian's their inability to design and build the machine that builds the machine. Unlike Tesla they didn't see where the competition would be coming from.
Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship and can mandate (or strongly suggest) wealthier Saudis to buy Lucid vehicles, at least government employees and for government usage. But whether or not this is a big enough market for the brand to gain traction once Gravity is released who knows?
1 less cubic foot of cargo space than a Cadillac Escalade Standard. And it starts at $82k. If they can get brand recognition, it will sell. Cheaper than the inferior German offering and much better tech than 99% of other EV'S it's a great luxury family wagon.
They made a really good car that's to expensive to make. They're loosing money on it. Lucid makes great cars.. just not viable for mass production in today's market - not with 120kWh battery packs and air suspension. You think Porsche Tycan is profitable?? It can only exist because VAG group makes it so. Tesla is only profitable because their cars are optimized to the absolute max. Minimal interior, minimal controls, everything done through the screen, monolith structural parts, lots of shared parts between models, optimal battery size, very very efficient motors.. Lucid has none of this. But it DOES have a CEO that takes almost 10% company worth in salary. lol
I agree that Lucid's technology is impressive, as is its focus on fit and finish (leagues ahead of Tesla on this one). I disagree with your mention of the Tesla Cybertruck in this context. In my view, the Tesla Cybertruck is a marketing gimmick. Once the initial flush of interest in the novel wears off (one year, maximum), the vehicle's many shortcomings will kill sales. Of what do I speak? A very difficult-to-maintain finish, a very dangerous-to-pedestrians front end, very poor fit-and-finish, noisy interior, impractical exterior design, next-to-no visibility out the windows, particularly in the rear... Like you, I also worry about Lucid's sales projections. In my view, they made a big error in not moving forward with the lowest-cost model of the Gravity first. I hope it doesn't fail; the vehciles they've built thus far are actually quite impressive.
Lucid is a dead man walking and the CEO is only interested in making as much money for himself as humanly possible! The Saudis should have offered him a non-negotiable $5m/year deal…take it or leave! Disgraceful….
The Lucid gravity looks like a station wagon, I think the entire SUV thing is just a way to tax people who don't want to admit they drive in mini vans and station wagons.
Yes, this. I've been saying that for years. If you wanted a station wagon, buy a station wagon. As soon as truck based SUVs went to being car based SUVs, that when this happened and when SUVs jumped the shark.
Lucid CEO clearly delusional. Average Lucid vehicle out of the reach of the average car buyer. Even with federal $7,500 EV rebate, there are no new Lucids costing under $40K. The writing is on the wall. A matter of time before Lucid goes belly up.
The problem is lucid doesn’t understand that these cars are ugly they need to hire some new designers they keep talking about technology but people don’t care about the tech if it’s ugly and cost too much most people who have 70k-100k people are not going to buy a ugly sedan
lol, no working class would buy $80K car...so it doesn't matter. Anything below $40K or even $30K where the numbers speak a lot. People who can afford 80$K don't worry about 7.5k tax credit.
Sam you have been watching the wrong news networks, even though their considered the main ones, they don't really tell the truth anymore and will lead you to thinking this about the incentives you mentioned. And ask yourself how are things any better now for the public or any automotive industry whether they are EVs or internal combustion engine type vehicles.
Lucid has defied all of your premature anticipations of its demise, Sam, and the story of the company isn't over yet. If I could afford a Gravity I would definitely buy one without reservations about what the future holds. It is unfortunate that you fail to recognise great EV tech when you are looking at it.
@garethrobinson2275 Yes, exactly. 'If not for' reasoning is ridiculous. Having the money matters. So, the Gravity can and will be made. The only question is, how well will it sell? If it sells well this quarrel is over. If it doesn't sell well Lucid still has pinnacle EV technology and the company will be snapped up by a bigger player after a big discount. I couldn't care less whether people decide to buy Lucid shares or not or how those shares fare in the short term. I am only concerned about EV buyers having access to A-grade EV technology. Armchair prognostications about the future of Lucid bore me. Lucid is an important EV company because of the quality of the EV technology developed by the extraordinarily talented engineers at Lucid. That is something that you've missed, even though the quality of a car sold to a buyer is finally what matters to them.
Another over-priced EV isn't going to save Lucid and this is where Elon is going to whoop some butt. Musk appreciates margins but he also understands that volume and diversification are more important and in order to do that, you have to have something in your product stack that you can stack high and sell cheap. You have those who get this and those who do not, and the ones that don't generally never succeed beyond niche or failure modalities.
lucid 需要与中国汽车生厂商合作在中国建立完整的产业链并以其出色的技术优势推出更廉价的符合大多数用户需求的产品，例如在中国以更低成本生产性价比更高的SUV电动车和2.5万美金左右的家用轿车。 Lucid needs to collaborate with Chinese automobile manufacturers to establish a complete industrial chain in China and launch more affordable products that meet the needs of most users with its outstanding technological advantages, such as producing cost-effective SUV electric vehicles and household sedans worth around $25000 at lower costs in China.
Rawlinson received a $379 million compensation package in 2022 for his role at the luxury EV maker Lucid, including a $575,000 base salary, $5.5 million of stock options, and an incredible $373 million in stock awards, according to a new CEO compensation survey from Automotive News and Equilar.
Lucid need to supply Rolls-Royce, Maybach, Porsche, Aston Martin etc etc thier floor pan including motors, batteries, suspension etc etc.. If they did this I'm buying stock like a maddog.... other GFYS 😂
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Listen people i remember when a very small start-up named Tesla went into full production everyone said it would fail and they're still here, lucid has everything it needs to succeed
Their cars didn't cost as much either
@@theone5404Roadster, Model S, Model X
Expensive models came out first
If you don’t have enough demand and volume sales, you don’t have everything you need. You also shouldn’t be paying your CEO almost 400 million a year.
@@theone5404 Tesla's X and S at the early years were around 110K$
it’s over processed…. full stop 🎉
Lucid is great car and far better than plastic box + ipad car. Will take some time. Lucid need to focus on production across globe. By 2028 it will speedup
Lucid needs to focus on production, on output, on getting cars out the door, not improving, tooling, and fooling around.
They are in the premium luxury market. Production isn’t their problem. Demand, software, service and ownership experience are their biggest issues. They can barely sell the vehicles they have now. Making bulk sales deals with their Saudi owners in exchange for big investment infusions is the only reason they are still alive. They are lucky to even steal the small number of sales from other premium luxury brands thanks to their fancy marketing/advertising
Fisker! Nikola!
That is what they are doing. But Lucid has good engineers who sweat the details. So are you proposing that Lucid should have more bad engineers?
no buyers
Lucid needs to collaborate with Chinese automobile manufacturers to establish a complete industrial chain in China and launch more affordable products that meet the needs of most users with its outstanding technological advantages, such as producing cost-effective SUV electric vehicles and household sedans worth around $25000 at lower costs in China.lucid
需要与中国汽车生厂商合作在中国建立完整的产业链并以其出色的技术优势推出更廉价的符合大多数用户需求的产品，例如在中国以更低成本生产性价比更高的SUV电动车和2.5万美金左右的家用轿车。
@Peter Rawlinson
I talk to a lot of people about EVs and almost nobody has heard of Lucid, even in my area of the world where EVs are high selling. Somehow Lucid needs to get more name recognition and people need to learn about how well they are built - powertrain, interior, etc.
Yes the quality in my opinion is better than Tesla. They need to get the Cost down on their vehicles though.
Tesla was on the verge of bankruptcy not that long ago ...
that's the name of the game ...
It is hard for Lucid, but - I keep my fgingers crossed, It is great looking, efficent, spacious but not huge. It is much nicer than rivians, than all teslas, mercedes, bmw - but timing is difficult.
I cant afford either model and when someone says $80k is worth it but $95k is outrageous, I think to myself, at that level, does it matter? Seems to me anyone who can afford an $80k car can probably afford a $95k car. The percentage of extra price seems small. $15k difference on a subcompact is huge, on this, not so much.
Except it turns out that $95k model really costs about $110k for a reasonably configured version.
@@marktace1 like all models ... LOL ... all base models are bare.
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu Base model of the Volvo EX90 comes with almost everything Lucid is charging extra for at $81k. Gravity Touring has more 3rd row room and better efficiency. Engineers love efficiency but the real world advantage is minimal at a given range. 2.5 mi/kwh vs. 3.5 mi/kwh at 20 cents/kwh saves only about $2,300 over 100,000 miles of driving.
If Lucid comes out with a great small SUV, quick, they’ll make it, if not, I wouldn’t give them much hope.
While the company is losing money, the share price keeps falling, the CEO salary still one of the highest pay CEO. It is ridiculous.
do your research before typing. If you are referring to the 300 million that was in stock grants, he didn't sell a single share and it isn't worth 300 million in today's price.
@@fayewong21 stock grants r not any better because it dilute shareholder value driving the stock price down when he increases outstanding shares from thin air, mfer CEO pissing us off , how about mark the company profitable first before fking paying out urself in 300 million, no person needs that amount of money for themselves especially at his age
If people are willing to dish out over $100,00 for the Cybertruck, then it’s not a stretch for there to be a significant market for this. Both are over-the-top, but there are a lot of over-the-top impractical customers out there.
The Cybertruck is the issue. It has FSD, in mass production, hit break even, and is well liked. The market over $100k is tiny and is dominated, in volume, by Cybertruck.
Unless you are predicting a collapse in Cybertruck sales, there isn't much space for the gravity at $95k. Hence why Cybertruck is dropping to $80k.
@ I don’t dispute that. I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if a significant number of customers waste their money on the Gravity. Really expensive trucks and SUVs are the U.S car market’s bread and butter. Whether people like it or not is a separate issue. They may not, but we’ll have to wait and see. Also, I don’t think Lucid will survive based on its sales, but they have Saudi oil money backing them so who knows.
@jaybird2023 Some customers will buy the Gravity. Lucid needs more volume than Cybertruck to break even though.
I am personally curious when the $60k Cybertruck reaches break even.
@dobbo7690 The reservation list has always mostly been the cheapest model.
Good news is Tesla achieved break even and that usually means a sharp (>10%) drop in unit costs the following quarter. As it remains the #1 selling vehicle above $100k, are you proposing a collapse in all high end vehicle sales?
Tesla just filed for permits to double capacity in Austin, I think they are ok. I believe most of the new capacity will be Cybertruck.
@@dobbo7690You think the reservation list was all for the Foundation Series? Good grief.
Lucid has been talking about its tech prowess, engineering, Lucid Air and now has shifted the focus to the Gravity, its new savior. In the same timeframe, Chinese EV makers like Xpeng, Nio, Xiaomi, Zeekr, Avatr, and BYD have cranked out multiple models each and have been quietly delivering them without fanfare. Even premium Chinese brands make 1,000 cars per day, while Lucid is currently building about 20 cars per day and struggles to sell them. Why are they struggling so hard to sell their reportedly excellent cars? Vendor viability concerns? Lack of brand recognition? Too expensive?
too much!
Why so many people hate on lucid, looks great sick!
Also why they call it Saudi company this is American USA 🇺🇸 made in America come on emigrants 😂
many Tesla fanboys is trying to change the story, they will scream Saudi company, 300 million pay for CEO, or say car is too expensive/look like a minivan as a poor excuse because they cannot give you a better argument . they are afraid of competition.
I’m also wondering why there is so much hate on lucid. So what if it was Saudi company what do you hate in this ???
I'm not hating on Lucid, I like many things about them but there are also many mistakes being made.
No the boss is bleeding it dry call it greedy
He gets way too much money
Agree 👍 greedy ceo
He is killing the investors and filling his pockets
Greed is good.
Actually, Rawlinson's compensation is almost entirely stocks, NOT CASH.
Bro, you’ve been bashing Lucid for 3 years now saying they are going to go under. Instead their sales have increased 70% QoQ, they are outselling the Model S, and they just opened reservations on fantastic new product. What’s wrong with you?? 🤣🤣🤣
i keep buying and holding 💪🏽
i think this car will do well
Lucid has done some rather clever engineering. Their software is good, aerodynamics are top notch and their drive unit is an engineering marvel. They should be doing much better.
I do think they are a long play. The tough part is they need to sell some volune and thats not likely until their mid size SUV comes out.
Lucid is not able to use Tesla Superchargers yet (unless it’s a Magic dock). This support is supposed to come sometime in 2025.
When the market says no ty, the ceo has to start chirping real loud =b "we have the best tech..." yeah good for you.
@@borshardsd The energy density of (and everything else about) the Lucid motor is indeed the best. The chassis and suspension are A-grade although admittedly without massive castings. The electrical architecture - 924V - was done right from the outset and long before other EV companies worked out that high voltage matters. Today, after learning on the job how not to make a car, the chassis of a Tesla vehicle is very good.
The Lucid battery is okay and much better than most EV batteries out there today owing to its racing heritage. But, batteries are big big business and Lucid will have to cede some control to CATL or BYD or some other specialist partner, in time. It wouldn't shock me if Lucid decided to move towards the use of an industry standard blade cell if and when a technically refined standard for such a thing emerges.
@chris27gea58 chirp chirp chirp, wow so amazing, so you say it's the best but the best meaning? Strongest? Cheapest to create while providing adequate value? Which is it? Highest stats at the most expensive price? What is the best?
Maybe the best is what is actually selling? A product that provides enough value at the right price. Hmmm that sounds much better than any LUCID out there. Mg seems better than lucid =D but please talk about the best! Not selling or succeeding is not the best even if you think it is.
You want to sell or be the best?
I HAVE LUCID CAR ITS THE BEST CAR I HAVE AND DRIVE ........
Ford should buy Lucid for their ev tech
That’s would be great
Lucid is the future
The media surrounding Fisker has doomed flaling companies like Lucid. It will create great hesitation w consumers that otherwise may purchase the gravity..
Anyone who doesn't think Lucid will make it needs to pay attention to what's happening in boxing right now.
If there is huge demand then how many Air they sold???
They’re outselling the Tesla Model S. 😊
Only thing can save this company make a suv 400-500mil rage under 40k by 2026. Keep all the premium build quality.
Make $40k one , the stock price will soar
Lucid makes a good car but it costs WAY too much.
here specs;
1- 440+ mile, (longest range)
2- 118 , 440/118=3.7 mi/kwh, (the most efficient SUV)
3- 200 mile within 15 minutes (fast charging)
4- the materials the same with Bentley (Luxurious)
5- more leg room rather than any SUV in market
6- do u want more?
the same trim R1S is about 89,900
tesla model X, when it first releases was 130k
Lucid Air is the same price as the Tesla Model S, and Lucid sold more last month.
Offering only a high end trim level first was such a bad business decision. This is proof management is extremely poor.
I think differently, with the best technology in expensive cars, it takes a long time to build a pillar and go down, but it creates the company's image and weight
Starting with low-cost cars? Look at Polestar
I think the gravity looks too much like a mini van. I wouldn’t be surprised if that combined with the cost holds it back.
I have a Lucid Air Touring, it's an amazing vehicle!! But, I agree with many on this board, Lucid's CEO is GROSSLY overpaid. He is the wrong guy for the job!
They can save on the salary of the CEO. Clearly. Wished the video was more about their cars, the position in the market, the real stuff and obstacles up front with the financial troubles later. 95K explains pretty much all. The thing looks more like 35K-40K as a reasonable ask.
By leveraging its own technological advantages and relying on China's complete supply chain system to create a more cost-effective vehicle priced at 25,000 US dollars, Lucid may achieve sustainable development.
在发挥自身技术优势的情况下，借助中国完善的供应链体系打造2.5w美金更具性价比的车型，lucid才可能持续发展！
Lucid will never go bankrupt and they will come back very strong but it will need couple of years.
Switch meds dude, they only one makes $ is Peter here...LUCID has no futere
@@lucalaborante6931 look at your crystal ball again dude... or wait you have no balls
@@lucalaborante6931 change your own meds. The company will go private long before any bankruptcy. Not good for shareholders, but I don't think PIF cares about that. Read before you post.
Agree. They have unlimited funding. A great efficient platform. Gravity looks amazing.
The Saudi dudes in suits have money that cannot be counted.. And they want Lucid so it will go private if it has to
I can't believe the CEO has the audacity to take the salary he does.
@@travisjazzbo3490 What do you think about Elon's multi-billion dollar remuneration packages? The hypocrisy of some on this point is breathtaking.
@@chris27gea58 Your ignorance is breathtaking. IN FACT, the Lucid guy should have the same type of deal as Musk. Why?
They made a deal with him with totally unrealistic goals he had to meet - in lieu of pay - and he met them. No one thought he would. What exactly is the hypocrisy about that? How many people do you know that would sign up to that? Certainly not the Lucid guy! But Elon did because he believed in himself and what he does.
An agreement is an agreement and he took NO SALARY - unlike the Lucid guy - and instead signed up to unrealistic goals and then met them.
Understand? What's the problem?
Something Musk haters don't appreciate is what he has accomplished with Tesla. How can you not appreciate that when no one else in America has even come close to building a profitable EV company despite the hundreds of headlines over the years of all the 'Tesla killers' that are gonna eat Musk's lunch... Not even close!
@@travisjazzbo3490You are very naive and that hypocrisy I mentioned is coming through loud and clear in your comment. Tesla fanboys are nothing if not a) sanctimonious blowhards and b) hypocrites, and they really don't like it when that is pointed out to them.
@@travisjazzbo3490 The touchy content scanners aren't allowing me to give that diatribe an appropriate response.
@@chris27gea58 Tesla profitable and the stock increase %2000 from ipo...lol both of them are CEO but one is legit the other is not
i think they have more cash and cash equivalents than the market cap.
Can Lucid make it as a niche EV manufacturer? I hope so.
Does not look promising.
Car very poor looking. Looks just one thing but when spending $100k want to vehicle to have a good appearance. Too nobody except jay leno to take chance to buy at this high price as looks like to go bankrupt. Once bankrupt no service or spare parts so a 2 or 3 ton paper weight.
I suspect what happened to Fisker may scare off a lot of potential buyers. Who wants to paid that much for a car that could be orphaned in a few years
Lucids are beautifully made. great engineering, luxury interior, awesome range... where Tesla always wins is the software. They are ready for tomorrow. It's a hard moat for everyone else to cross.
Tesla wins on profitability. Lucid is competing with Tesla of 10 years ago.
Not just software, but volume as well.
Why wouldn’t a big tech buy this company and easily can write it off doesn’t work out.
It wont save them. I just tried out the configuration on the new Gravity and the SUV at the price they launched it does not include things that are standard in lower class EV and non-EV models (like lane centering for example). They really look like they're attempting to collapse the stock price. If they weren't they would have done away with Peter as their CEO and hired seasoned Auto industry individuals as they have more than enough capital for this. Increasing their sales is not a way out for them. They have the best product on the market right now. They do not have to deal with Unions as far as labor is concerned. They have every advantage to become profitable however without the proper leaders they will go the way of Fisker.
Is just hilarious to me that a car company making BEVs is being supported by oil money.
Talk about an environmental slap in the face. I hope this fact was not lost on rich environmentally conscious consumers.
The end of profitable Oil revenues is on the horizon, Oil money is going into the energy transition now. These people are first and foremost businessmen.
"Greedy ceo got 300 million!" Comments are insane lol. His compensation is tied to the future of the company.
Gravity is an impressive vehicle. Really like it. However, I agree with your assessment that it is just way too expensive to become popular. Lucid needs a volume vehicle, a Model Y competitor and with similar price range.
coming late 2026
Saudi sugar daddy money Keep Lucid alive 😂
US Federal Government tax credits keeping Tesla alive. 😂
I thought the sedan looked awkward. The suv look even worse. Only talking looks maybe so good things under sheet metal but can’t get by poor appearance.
Very poor management performance.
Low of under $2 from a $ 56 high. It is a really great price or it’s about to tank to under $1 in 2025
Buy on the dip
It doesn't have NACS so I'm not going to buy it. Why are these EV companies so behind? No one wants their cars if you can't charge it with the supercharger network
It does have NACS
@gonzales2011 not yet. Not till 2025 they said
gravity supports NACS😂😂
Love lucid innovation
Gravity will save Lucid? So why make sedans first before making a SUV then? And this is the highest paid CEO? Who does not even know simple fact that a mid-size SUV is an absolute king these days, that's where all the money is? And again now, they did not make mid size SUV, they made big SUV which is too expensive. This company is run by not very smart people clearly.
It is real simple: (1) Lucid has the best technology and the best product; (2) EVs are the future and EV demand will keep going up; (3) Lucid's Saudi investors will never stop backing them ( Lucid is part of their long-term diversification and energy ambitions, which is why they build the first ever EV factory in the region -- they will not let this project fail for a number of reasons and will keep pumping money into it). In other words, this company is not going anywhere.
Not going anywhere, that’s for sure.
They suck.
Do you Saudis like to waste money?
@oggyoggy1299 lol nice. Yeah best tech yet the market doesn't care, so ? Yeah nah yeah 🍻
Tesla can have the best technology, but they realize that the market doesn't want to pay the extra $50,000 for that extra 10% in technology. Also, Tesla doesn't want to lose $50,000on each car they sell.
@@masoodrazaq True, but as you say, it is worth $6 billion now. By 2030, it will be several times that and Saudis will keep doubling down until that happens. The point is that, unlike your usual US company, they have had and will continue to have an unusually long runway to build the brand first and scale up later.
Loosid is a gonner,ceo dont have a clue how to run a biz 😢
See s to me the luxury BEV space is close being saturated. Rivian has a better strategy.
And Xiaomi shares up 80%
Xiaomi is breaking barriers. They just taped out 3nm chips. Extremely impressive
. Definitely lot of biased negativity reporting. Those who love the company promote Lucid . Let it not fail for the greed, it is a US designed and manufactured car.
Kind of a shame since I think they look great. Tesla were the coolest cars, but they're so prevalent in Australia I'm getting tired of their design language. The Cybertruck was very different but the harsh angles don't do it for me. I like some of the Chinese EVs like Nio, Xpeng and BYD. Rivian is also a great look but I don't think they're in Australia yet.
If people had always known how much we actually paid for all that 'different design language' they wouldn't have been nearly so impressed with it.
@@garethrobinson2275 what does that even mean?
the key to lucid survival is to manufacture cars in china
I think they may surprise us. But that is expensive.
They should have started out with the SUV. Or a super car. Not a cross between a Ford Taurus and a Buick. Big mistake.
We heard Tesla was dead, by Q4 2016 latest….so……
If three isn’t room for Lucid’s terrific electric vehicles in the electric vehicle market.
Then something larger is wrong.
Too expensive, if they go under, your car is basically worthless, too far to go for service, even if they come to you.
Lcid should make $50-60k SUV.
It's running out of money. i just purchased 100 shares... don't spend it all in one spot. Lol
Plenty of ICE cars way above this price and with far less performance. Plenty of rich people happy to pay. They need to get their marketing going though. Technology and design is so far ahead but the batteries will be old hat within 12 months or so.
Hahahaha…$95K NO!
Is lucid a good buy at $2.39 per share?
long-term YES
Yes it is
Lucid doesn't seem very lucid.
Lucid problems stem from leadership and like Rivian's their inability to design and build the machine that builds the machine. Unlike Tesla they didn't see where the competition would be coming from.
Why aren't they selling in Saudi?
they are selling and going very well
Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship and can mandate (or strongly suggest) wealthier Saudis to buy Lucid vehicles, at least government employees and for government usage. But whether or not this is a big enough market for the brand to gain traction once Gravity is released who knows?
are you sure they can mandate this? most of people in US have no clue how other countries function. they believe what media tell them.
Never throw money at bad money.
No. Rivian is the one that will out compete these other small EV companies
Wake me up when Lucid Motor make profit selling EV's 😂😂😂😂😂
What do you think is a good ev
Sam, do I smell clearance Lucids for $50k
1 less cubic foot of cargo space than a Cadillac Escalade Standard. And it starts at $82k. If they can get brand recognition, it will sell. Cheaper than the inferior German offering and much better tech than 99% of other EV'S it's a great luxury family wagon.
They made a really good car that's to expensive to make. They're loosing money on it. Lucid makes great cars.. just not viable for mass production in today's market - not with 120kWh battery packs and air suspension. You think Porsche Tycan is profitable?? It can only exist because VAG group makes it so.
Tesla is only profitable because their cars are optimized to the absolute max. Minimal interior, minimal controls, everything done through the screen, monolith structural parts, lots of shared parts between models, optimal battery size, very very efficient motors.. Lucid has none of this. But it DOES have a CEO that takes almost 10% company worth in salary. lol
I agree that Lucid's technology is impressive, as is its focus on fit and finish (leagues ahead of Tesla on this one). I disagree with your mention of the Tesla Cybertruck in this context. In my view, the Tesla Cybertruck is a marketing gimmick. Once the initial flush of interest in the novel wears off (one year, maximum), the vehicle's many shortcomings will kill sales. Of what do I speak? A very difficult-to-maintain finish, a very dangerous-to-pedestrians front end, very poor fit-and-finish, noisy interior, impractical exterior design, next-to-no visibility out the windows, particularly in the rear...
Like you, I also worry about Lucid's sales projections. In my view, they made a big error in not moving forward with the lowest-cost model of the Gravity first.
I hope it doesn't fail; the vehciles they've built thus far are actually quite impressive.
Yer delusional hater 😂 Tesla has 2 MILION reservations for Cbrtrk,,Loosid keep loosing money on every car ,,bankruptsy soon imo
If Rawlinson disappears when visiting an embassy somewhere, we'll know what happened.
The next EV will always make EV viable… 😂😂😂 since 1860s…
Buy 2 ford broncos or one gravity
Lucid is a dead man walking and the CEO is only interested in making as much money for himself as humanly possible! The Saudis should have offered him a non-negotiable $5m/year deal…take it or leave! Disgraceful….
Damn. At least they make faster cars than tesla. They can hang their hats on that as they go down.
Eating your hat dont make any money 😂
They are still having a Lucid dream 😪😴
The Lucid gravity looks like a station wagon, I think the entire SUV thing is just a way to tax people who don't want to admit they drive in mini vans and station wagons.
Yes, this. I've been saying that for years. If you wanted a station wagon, buy a station wagon. As soon as truck based SUVs went to being car based SUVs, that when this happened and when SUVs jumped the shark.
Lucid CEO clearly delusional. Average Lucid vehicle out of the reach of the average car buyer. Even with federal $7,500 EV rebate, there are no new Lucids costing under $40K. The writing is on the wall. A matter of time before Lucid goes belly up.
Lucid is asleep 😴 wake up you ….
Haha that’s a 30k car in china, how much they are selling in US?
The problem is lucid doesn’t understand that these cars are ugly they need to hire some new designers they keep talking about technology but people don’t care about the tech if it’s ugly and cost too much most people who have 70k-100k people are not going to buy a ugly sedan
lol, no working class would buy $80K car...so it doesn't matter. Anything below $40K or even $30K where the numbers speak a lot. People who can afford 80$K don't worry about 7.5k tax credit.
He think's he knows something about economy .......
A lot of dudes that talk negative in here and prob sad cuz they have no Christmas money
Sam you have been watching the wrong news networks, even though their considered the main ones, they don't really tell the truth anymore and will lead you to thinking this about the incentives you mentioned. And ask yourself how are things any better now for the public or any automotive industry whether they are EVs or internal combustion engine type vehicles.
There shouldn’t be any incentives with taxpayer money for any EVs. If they are so good they will sell themselves.
Sounds good. Let us buy Chinese EV's with no subsidies and no tariffs.
@@larryc1616 Chinese auto industry is fed by Chinese taxpayers ))
@VaskaDenisov-m5x why would I care? Nobody cares. We just want good and cheap EV's
Lucid has defied all of your premature anticipations of its demise, Sam, and the story of the company isn't over yet. If I could afford a Gravity I would definitely buy one without reservations about what the future holds. It is unfortunate that you fail to recognise great EV tech when you are looking at it.
Lucid has Saudi money. Otherwise, it would have been dead long ago. How much oil money are they prepared to pump in? No one knows.
@garethrobinson2275 Yes, exactly. 'If not for' reasoning is ridiculous. Having the money matters. So, the Gravity can and will be made. The only question is, how well will it sell? If it sells well this quarrel is over. If it doesn't sell well Lucid still has pinnacle EV technology and the company will be snapped up by a bigger player after a big discount. I couldn't care less whether people decide to buy Lucid shares or not or how those shares fare in the short term. I am only concerned about EV buyers having access to A-grade EV technology. Armchair prognostications about the future of Lucid bore me.
Lucid is an important EV company because of the quality of the EV technology developed by the extraordinarily talented engineers at Lucid. That is something that you've missed, even though the quality of a car sold to a buyer is finally what matters to them.
No with Gravity. Will be with Earth. Model X didn't save Tesla til Model 3.
Another over-priced EV isn't going to save Lucid and this is where Elon is going to whoop some butt. Musk appreciates margins but he also understands that volume and diversification are more important and in order to do that, you have to have something in your product stack that you can stack high and sell cheap.
You have those who get this and those who do not, and the ones that don't generally never succeed beyond niche or failure modalities.
lucid 需要与中国汽车生厂商合作在中国建立完整的产业链并以其出色的技术优势推出更廉价的符合大多数用户需求的产品，例如在中国以更低成本生产性价比更高的SUV电动车和2.5万美金左右的家用轿车。
Lucid needs to collaborate with Chinese automobile manufacturers to establish a complete industrial chain in China and launch more affordable products that meet the needs of most users with its outstanding technological advantages, such as producing cost-effective SUV electric vehicles and household sedans worth around $25000 at lower costs in China.
@Peter Rawlinson
Rawlinson received a $379 million compensation package in 2022 for his role at the luxury EV maker Lucid, including a $575,000 base salary, $5.5 million of stock options, and an incredible $373 million in stock awards, according to a new CEO compensation survey from Automotive News and Equilar.
We’re selling our MX and picking up a gravity. Excited for it. Sick of Elons political antics as well
Lucid need to supply Rolls-Royce, Maybach, Porsche, Aston Martin etc etc thier floor pan including motors, batteries, suspension etc etc..
If they did this I'm buying stock like a maddog.... other GFYS 😂
This wouldn't be a profit model for those companies.
RR already makes EVs and way more beautiful then Loosid
They do supply Aston Martin parts btw