having correctly set up full length oem lever is very very important. putting cylinder closer in to the middle of handlebar and having lever with non broken tip so that you use clutch only with one finger but at furthest point possible to give biggest lever. that can make as big difference as putting whole different master cylinder
That does help a lot and what I do as well. But the difference in cylinder diameter makes a lot more difference in the Shercos than any other bike. The 10mm is of and on feel while the 9mm allows you to get a lot more feel. Johny walker also talks about this in one of his videos
You can't directly compare different brands of bike with different clutch types and spring designs. You can only compare master sizes on the one bike to compare pull effort, and yes the 9mm will as you say, reduce pull effort. It will also reduce travel of the slave piston, something to be aware of. Every brand will feel completely different from another brand and design. Sherco are stock with a 9mm from 2020 onwards, they were 10mm. Some people still complain about the pull being heavy compared to other bikes. They have a conventional spring pack clutch. The old Gas Gas (Reiju) has a different clutch brand supplier but still a conventional spring pack. The orange, white and red KTMs run a disc type Belleville washer clutch that reduces pull effort.
the trials bike uses mineral oil (I use baby oil in mine) so you would have to swap all the seals and the clutch slave I believe as the brembo uses dot4. I would think the trials one with the small amount of fluid would boil easier with how hard we ride our hard enduro bikes vs trails? my gas gas came with a more brembo looking master 9 but I traded it to the brembo 10 because king of hammers was coming up and didn't have time to get used to the different pull. with my shorter fingers I run my clutches closer to the bar so with the 9 I can't disengage it pulled all the way and I end up stalling much more. not sure if there's a work around for that or not maybe less oil but that's why I prefer the 10's. your fingers end up getting used to the slightly harder pull. Just finished the 5 hour grinding stone race and my finger only got a little tired from it throughout
The Shercos with a 10mm is a Brutal pull. The clutches go fast and the 10mm is way to stiff it’s harder to pull than any cable clutch and that’s including Suzukis which is the stiffest I’ve found the 9mm makes a huge difference. The 10 is a more off and in feel while the 9mm allows you to drag more and get more feed back from the engine. The trials bikes do have a smaller reservoir and I want to swap my trs brake tech on and see. I ran the 4 stroke sherco for grinding stone since I destroyed my 2 stroke riding the first day out there. The 4 stroke has a 10mm and you get clutch fade really fast. The huskys came with Magura 9mm and it was the best clutch I’ve ever used. Now I only run 9mm exclusively. Now everything comes stock with 10mm. Even the top pros only run 9mm. Johny walker talked about this in one of his videos but runs a 10mm front brake to get more stopping power. Sorry was gonna stop by your tent but was busy dealing with bike stuff. Hope to see you in Montana. If you make it up to washington let me know you can stop by my enduro testing facility it’s pretty rad. And we have all the new bikes erzberg, rockstar, reiju mr 300 pro 6 days, new 22 factory 300 sherco, Suzuki RMX450z, and beta evo extended.
@@Anonymous-nu1xf not yet had that on the back burner but thanks for reminding me I gotta pick up the line if the guy still has it. I had some custom lines done. Lol 😂
Verry informative video but I would recommend just getting a Midwest mountain engineering ez pull leaver game changer works for brembo maybe Magura nissen ect
The valving on the reiju is softer great out of the box suspension for hard enduro. It does okay at endurocross but it’s more tailored to hard enduro. The suspension on the sherco is stiffer. It does really awesome at endurocross and you can hit the mx track with it and you can soften it up with turning clickers all the way back and in 1 but it’s stiff in the hard enduro stuff and needs softening up. The stock reiju suspension is a little stiff than Cody Webb’s hard enduro setup. I prefer the reiju suspension over the sherco stuff. Ride shop Arizona is gonna do my forks with Cody Webb’s settings
@@maksikkarenduro9218 You sure you're not thinking of the Midwest Lever? My Clake OLC is amazing. Short pull (it's adjustable btw), super light. Ride gnar all day and finger doesn't get tired.
having correctly set up full length oem lever is very very important. putting cylinder closer in to the middle of handlebar and having lever with non broken tip so that you use clutch only with one finger but at furthest point possible to give biggest lever. that can make as big difference as putting whole different master cylinder
That does help a lot and what I do as well. But the difference in cylinder diameter makes a lot more difference in the Shercos than any other bike. The 10mm is of and on feel while the 9mm allows you to get a lot more feel. Johny walker also talks about this in one of his videos
You can't directly compare different brands of bike with different clutch types and spring designs.
You can only compare master sizes on the one bike to compare pull effort, and yes the 9mm will as you say, reduce pull effort.
It will also reduce travel of the slave piston, something to be aware of.
Every brand will feel completely different from another brand and design.
Sherco are stock with a 9mm from 2020 onwards, they were 10mm.
Some people still complain about the pull being heavy compared to other bikes.
They have a conventional spring pack clutch.
The old Gas Gas (Reiju) has a different clutch brand supplier but still a conventional spring pack.
The orange, white and red KTMs run a disc type Belleville washer clutch that reduces pull effort.
Yes indeed that’s why there’s a part two I just installed a 9.5mm magura master cylinder to talk about this specifically. You nailed it in the head 🤙
the trials bike uses mineral oil (I use baby oil in mine) so you would have to swap all the seals and the clutch slave I believe as the brembo uses dot4. I would think the trials one with the small amount of fluid would boil easier with how hard we ride our hard enduro bikes vs trails? my gas gas came with a more brembo looking master 9 but I traded it to the brembo 10 because king of hammers was coming up and didn't have time to get used to the different pull. with my shorter fingers I run my clutches closer to the bar so with the 9 I can't disengage it pulled all the way and I end up stalling much more. not sure if there's a work around for that or not maybe less oil but that's why I prefer the 10's. your fingers end up getting used to the slightly harder pull. Just finished the 5 hour grinding stone race and my finger only got a little tired from it throughout
The Shercos with a 10mm is a Brutal pull. The clutches go fast and the 10mm is way to stiff it’s harder to pull than any cable clutch and that’s including Suzukis which is the stiffest I’ve found the 9mm makes a huge difference. The 10 is a more off and in feel while the 9mm allows you to drag more and get more feed back from the engine. The trials bikes do have a smaller reservoir and I want to swap my trs brake tech on and see. I ran the 4 stroke sherco for grinding stone since I destroyed my 2 stroke riding the first day out there. The 4 stroke has a 10mm and you get clutch fade really fast. The huskys came with Magura 9mm and it was the best clutch I’ve ever used. Now I only run 9mm exclusively. Now everything comes stock with 10mm. Even the top pros only run 9mm. Johny walker talked about this in one of his videos but runs a 10mm front brake to get more stopping power. Sorry was gonna stop by your tent but was busy dealing with bike stuff. Hope to see you in Montana. If you make it up to washington let me know you can stop by my enduro testing facility it’s pretty rad. And we have all the new bikes erzberg, rockstar, reiju mr 300 pro 6 days, new 22 factory 300 sherco, Suzuki RMX450z, and beta evo extended.
@@maksikkarenduro9218 Did you ever test your TRS braketec on enduro bike? Id like to know if that could work. thanks
@@Anonymous-nu1xf not yet had that on the back burner but thanks for reminding me I gotta pick up the line if the guy still has it. I had some custom lines done. Lol 😂
Verry informative video but I would recommend just getting a Midwest mountain engineering ez pull leaver game changer works for brembo maybe Magura nissen ect
I’ve been thinking about that for sure
Rieju is not a new company, it was established in 1942
This I know. It’s new to big cc enduro bikes
Maybe some dealerships should train their employees with this... lol
Hopefully 1 day
What's your opinion on the clake clutch? Have you tried that?
Tell me about your thoughts on both forks on the rieju and sherco what’s the difference in valving?thanks
The valving on the reiju is softer great out of the box suspension for hard enduro. It does okay at endurocross but it’s more tailored to hard enduro. The suspension on the sherco is stiffer. It does really awesome at endurocross and you can hit the mx track with it and you can soften it up with turning clickers all the way back and in 1 but it’s stiff in the hard enduro stuff and needs softening up. The stock reiju suspension is a little stiff than Cody Webb’s hard enduro setup. I prefer the reiju suspension over the sherco stuff. Ride shop Arizona is gonna do my forks with Cody Webb’s settings
Rieju... If you know, you know
Absolutely
Just go w/ a Clake.
Tried that and hated it with a passion. The pull was so long. Light yes but the pull was a mile long
@@maksikkarenduro9218 You sure you're not thinking of the Midwest Lever? My Clake OLC is amazing. Short pull (it's adjustable btw), super light. Ride gnar all day and finger doesn't get tired.
@@WASemiHardEnduro no I’ve tried the clake 1 finger and did not like it at all.