Tesla Model Y - Under the Hood | Giga Texas Revisions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Cory and Carl take a look under the hood and pick at some minute details, comparing our old Model Y and this one, which was manufactured at Giga Texas. Preorder your very own 4680 battery cell here: munrolive.com/...
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As a medical doctor I come from a somewhat different professional background, and I find the deep dives you do into the intricacies of vehicle engineering truly fascinating.
You work on a "system"
Same thing (if it's done properly!)
I couldn't agree with your statement any further! Cheers
👌🏽 to a T
I’m a registered nurse and I totally agree! Part of me sometimes daydreams about what it would be like to be an engineer. It’s truly fascinating stuff!!
never too late to add to portfolio
What you learn from Tesla and Munro bois might be usefull in every field imo
I’m one of your two thousand new subscribers. Ex Audi/VW mechanic turned airplane tester. Love seeing the guts of the model Y. Have one on order. Thanks guys!
Welcome aboard!
Not gonna lie but this series has been my favorite thus far!
the reason the hose of the low side (suction) of the compressor is to lower the resistance and keep the diameter of the hose as close as possible to the metal pipe. this prevents the compressor from going down too low in pressure and thus evaporation temperature of the refigerant. this should allow the system to be slighty more capable of dealing with very low outside temperatures.
I really like how you guys show your thinking things out on video “answering your own question” rather than editing it out. Much more genuine and thank you for it. Also sandy shaving was funny and cool.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sandy had soap in his left ear I hope you got it out
@@MunroLive Sandy is an excellent model!🤠
You all are heroes for small retail investors. Making the information gap between institutions and retail investors smaller with every video. Thank you all for the hard work! :)
I think you guys are doing a great job thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Yep tesla engineers are definitely watching your chanel for feedback or constructive criticism.
Source: Trust me bro…
Tesla designers are dying to ehar what the general public want in a car, especially key features such as rear body and door style, HUD/instrument cluster type of deals.
I would be very much surprised if these videos aren't required viewing over at Tesla.
Cory- top notch presentation as always. Your crew is absolutely THE model all others will be following… just amazing work and truly a huge contribution to the general public. Every single episode succeeds to not only entertain, but to educate and highlight the importance of engineering perfection.. just awesome! Thank you!
Yes, this type of product review is the way it should be done across all business models. You ever try researching home appliances and see how well built they are? It's so frustrating, because across all brands it seems they're built for planned obsolescence. When you have people like the Munro team breaking things down, everything is transparent.
When looking at the cat fight under the Mach-e hood, it makes the symphony under the Tesla more phenomenal
Muck-e almost gave Sandy a heartattack,
I’ve seen spaghetti software code but the Mach-e has spaghetti plumbing
You should see under the hood of the BMW i4 and IX. They don’t even have frunks, that’s how much of a mess they are
...sure, but time will tell if it is actually better in the full life cycle of the vehicle. Ease and cost to repair or replace is still to be determined. Insurance rates labor hours per repair will round out the whole story.
@@bartwaggoner2000 Next will be spaghetti spaghetti.
Absolutely love seeing these small changes! Munro team is probably the best feedback loop for the Tesla engineering department!
Second best.
The best feedback loop is within Tesla (imo)
I think the feedback loop is shorter than through Munro. It's the people who have to assemble the parts you designed that are the best feedback loop. Hey Engineer Charlie! Come on down to the line and show us how this should be put together! Busting your own knuckles is the best teacher of what works and what doesn't.
And selling Tesla’s methods to other companies, which is more lucrative for these guy from old ice car manufacturers.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Ya I should have stated OUTSIDE of Tesla for sure.
Cory is just a fantastic teacher, speaker. Could watch him for hours.
Very intriguing analysis ! It's these apparently minute details that demonstrate how critical Teslas' engineering approach is, especially as compared to the major US OEMs.
I patted myself on the back for understanding the spot-welded bracket conundrum before you guys figured it out on camera. My expertise is in the design & manufacturing {in my tiny basement home office/workshop} of specialized electronic instruments for the geophysics community, but for some reason I can easily visualize the die-casting process with its draw issues. Great video, guys! What a beautiful & elegantly designed car!
That shaving commercial at 8:47 was THE SINGLE BEST AD EVER. Got to see Sandy expose himself, and then the lovely Mrs. Mounro come and feel him up.
This video is 22:56 of well-spent time where I walked away knowing a lot more than when I started. I can’t give you higher praise. Thank you.
It’s amazing how clean the Y is compared to all other EVs under the hood. Designing for manufacturability is really becoming obvious and is Tesla’s most under appreciated (outside of Munro) advantage over the competition.
most car OEM's dont take into Consideration of the WHOLE car Hollistically like Tesla does.
Very curious how the serviceability is on these hyper integrated designs. You might have good lean design, but if some hose needs to be replaced and you need to take the entire car apart then imo it's a fail because in the end it's still a consumer product and if the consumer feels ripped off it doesn't matter how well your design was as it will change the companies image to "very expensive to repair cars".
@@ZeroInDaHouse
Yep.. Most consumers don't care what is under the skin until it needs to be repaired.
Other EV's look messy under the hood.. But all the electronics are there not integrated into the motor assembly.
In a Bolt EV... a few fasteners and electrical connectors, and the inverter can be removed. same with charge controller.
Not as neat under the hood, but I could repair it myself in 30 min.. and Chevy WILL sell you the part you need.
The Tesla is beautiful to look at from an engineering point. But when they get older and need repairs.. it may be very expensive to get done.
@@kens97sto171 I totally agree. The total lifecycle of the product matters. Designing for manufacturability is one thing, but maintenance and repair are part of the picture. I can see how Munro looks at it: once the product is out the door of the plant, then it is the consumer’s problem. However, it still matters what happens after a product is sold. An unhappy consumer who is stuck with a durable product such as an automobile which is time consuming or expensive to repair may not be a repeat customer.
I happen to own a 2017 Chevy Bolt and I’ll agree it is nowhere as artsy as a Model Y, but it is probably a damn sight easier to repair. I had the main battery replaced under the recall and oddly just last week, the main contactor stuck on. It was apparently the fault of firmware. A dealer other than the one where I bought the car happened to be closer and did the firmware and contactor replacement in one day.
@@wtmayhew
Totally agree. Most people buy a car based on how it's physically meets their needs. Size shape design practicality etc. Most people don't really care what's under the hood.
If you want to see a detailed disassembly of a Chevrolet bolt EV. Check out Weber automotive on youtube. They've got a full battery removal and disassembly as well as powertrain removal and disassembly. How the cooling system works. It's one of the things that attracts me to that car is I've seen one disassembled and it's pretty easy to do with basic hand tools. At least the powertrain stuff. Taking the battery out definitely does require some specialty tools or some extreme care if you did not have those specialty tools. But if you needed to swap it inverter out or the charge controller it's mounted right on top under the hood.
While I do appreciate the beautiful design on the Tesla under the trunk. Working on it when it's 15 years old is going to be a nightmare if it's even possible to do. It starts to seem as though it might just be a disposable product like a cell phone. Now if that lifespan exceeds 15 years. Maybe it wouldn't matter. But we really don't know that yet.
I currently drive a 14-year-old Prius with 405,000 miles on it,
At about 380,000 the inverter failed. Actually only the DC to DC converter side of the inverter failed but it still disabled the car. Got online picked up the inverter from LKQ Salvage for $100 came from a car with $130,000 miles on it. And 45 minutes later I had it installed the coolant bled through it and I was back on the road. Same thing with the main battery pack. The battery is easily removable and either repairable or replaceable by someone with basic mechanical knowledge.
I'm amazed at how fast Tesla revisions are coming, in the old days you only saw new things with new models. Tesla seems to be pushing out updates both in hardware and software constantly. I think Tesla is definitely underrated in terms of it's engineering design work flows. Their cycle of design/test/production seems to be one of the best.
"seems to be"????
You're the one underrating Tesla.
You just started paying attention.
They can make so many revisions because they don't use too many suppliers. In the time frame Tesla make a part from a new revision , the other OEMs are still in the process of discussing an offer from the supplier .
@@paintedpony2935 Oh no definitely not underrating them, I've already ordered a Model Y, just waiting on it to arrive. I've been following Tesla since I first started buying their stock in 2012, I've been pouring lots into their stocks and now I'm finally getting my first vehicle.
@@envisionelectronics ah no I've been a long time investor in Tesla, but just recently started watching Munro's playlists on them
Best shave-advertisement ever :-) ty Sandy :-) and ty Cory and Carl for the extra entertainement :-P Fly safe ...
The really great part of this design and then, sharing it in public, is that it raises the bar for the industry. The optimist in me says smart thinking is contagious. Yes, dummies get in the way some time, but, smarts prevail in the long run. And we all profit from it. Thanks guys.....appreciate the insights.
There are dummies that comment sometimes even in this Munro Live vloggs, I get many dumb comments as I praise what Munro Live staff often reveal.
@@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669 I'm not talking about the dummies on the internet.....there's an endless supply of those. I'm talking about the dummies in an organization who inhibit rather than help progress. In my ad agency life, I spent a few years on automotive accounts, traveling to Detroit once or twice a week and I was surprised at how insular the business was. It was something akin to inbreeding.
@@joemartino6976 Detroit is very well known for Incest( figuratively speaking) 🤣
@@joemartino6976 It seems that (until Tesla) legacy auto only had to compete with themselves, and their innovation was glacial. Now they have a high tech company showing them how far behind they truly are...
@@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669 Although their HQ is in Detroit, a lot of GM was historically in Lansing, the state Capitol of Michigan. The shuttered Oldsmobile HQ is here, next to the Camaro factory. Moving here from other parts of the state (Detroit area is probably the most diverse, but this happens there as well) I can tell you that the worst things people say about the American South all happen here.
Re:spot welds - from what little I know about the giga casting material, it's not particularly hardenable (by design), so no post-cast artificial aging/HT was needed. This helps prevent part distortion. If that's the case, then the embrittling effect of the weld should be less. Quench time is also a factor and that's a small heat effect and an ocean of material to quench heat into, so any grain boundary precipitation should also me mitigated. But this should all be predicated by knowing the aluminum alloy system, which I don't, so all I can do is give Tesla the benefit of the doubt. I do know they have a top notch materials team...
All that said it would seem better to have a mounting extrusion built into the cast but that’s probably not always possible.
@@ken-mb5cp
Cory told you why that wasn't possible
Looking at where those welds were on the casting, I was more worried (and so was Corey) about weld penetration than material weakening. There should be plenty of material on the casting to weld into without distortion. Thank you for the description of why that's most likely the case. I'm glad to know these giga castings can be welded into. Tesla already saves so much time & work with the casting that a few alterations are to be expected. That leaves options open for future modification. This actually turns a potential negative into a positive.
Makes pulling the tub an interesting event, to possibly discover your first weld failure in a giga-casting.
i m even questioning if they even need this support bracked. So spot weld could be unnecessary with little redegn of top bracket if weaknees under chasis flex is problem.
Besides the very informative video .. loved the Henson shaving skit at the 8-9m mark, the T-shirt print, and Sandy's wife 400grit comment. All good stuff ;-)
19:30 Love watching the moment of realisation about the shape of the casting! Still hoping Munro can figure out an alternative solution.
that speaks to the volume of being a engineer with sufficient breadth of knowledge about the materials, casting process, design..
Anyone else realized it before Cory?
@@Mellowyellow8888 that also speaks the total drawbacks and ignorance of what all those integrated parts can cause in the future! There is a reason why you still see all those super old cars on the roads because they were built to be serviced even in 40 years later
@@carholic-sz3qv They were built to be serviced because they have to be or they stop working
@@carholic-sz3qv well that is only true mostly for cars that are made prior to the 90's.. My parents had a volvo 240DL.. i believe it was made in 86 or 88.. you would be lucky to see 1 in an entire year now.. But you also have to factor in the nostalgia.. of why people keep vintage cars..
This series is GOLD. I truly hope the awesome team and Munroe and Associates sell a lot of their reports because THE INDUSTRY NEEDS THIS. The amount of well thought out improvements from just a year ago is already incredible and this is only video number 2!!!
It would be amazing to have a chief engineer from Tesla there with you discussing the car. One can dream.
I like how Sandy appears out of nowhere and proceeds to shave himself.
NPC required "town crier" update successfull implimentation confirmed...
I know that ad wasn’t bad at first but now it comes across as random and cringey
@@Alexzw92 nah, i see this as a local kinda meme
Reminds me of Seinfeld:
Jerry Seinfeld : [on airline bathrooms] Tiny toilet, tiny light, tiny sink, tiny soap dispenser. Tiny slot- for *used razor blades.* That's always there. Who is shaving on the plane? And shaving so much, they're using UP razor blades? What have you got- the Wolfman flying here?
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The joy to see a new video out ❤️
Waited a long time to see the front and rear casting integration. Great stuff.
The more I look at this the more I want to get my very own model Y!
I especially enjoy seeing the changes over time. Your parts library from previous tear downs must be a real sight!
Tesla makes 1000 small line changes every 24H, and some 100 Big changes every Month.
@@markplott4820 I'm curious. Do you have a source to support your claim?
@@CiaranMcHale - see JOE Justice and FARZAD Mesabi. both FORMER Tesla workers.
Lol the handsome shaving ad.... Sandy... Oh Sandy my silver fox! 😍
negative on that one. If I want to watch an old man shave I’ll look in the mirror.
Pretty funny pretty cool. 😂oddly enouph im gonna buy one this weekend because of this. Advertising works if Sandy gives a 👍
Change to aluminum in the bracket is possibly due to Galvanic corrosion.
My thinking too!
If there is a channel worthy of subscription, it has to be this channel.
well done. Love to see and hear about all the little changes
The giga casting is an absolute game-changer
Well presented detail. Can't get enough of these!
Love the geeky depth of these analyses and seeing pros who know their stuff.
the continuous improvement seems like one of tesla's biggest advantages. my impression is that most automakers prefer to make all their revisions at once with new model years
Tesla may flex more than usual, but even 45 years ago, a parts catalogue would show varying parts based on the VIN or production date, within and across model years. This really is nothing just, except perhaps that Tesla is moving faster than others used to.
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Real quick; thank you gentlemen! I've appreciated all your deep dives. 1 day I'll buy a Tesla. Right now I'm TSLA constrained!
That was a really good and interesting video. Thank you!
Great video! Thank you guys so much for the effort put in to each of your videos, they are a pleasure to watch.
Our pleasure!
I found you about a week ago. I wish you would have been reccomended a long time ago as this is a very interesting channel. It is also the kind of place I wish I could have worked at. I spent 40 years in aviation maintenance so understand what you are talking about. Easily. You do things in such a way for the non engineer to grasp. Well done. It is very cool to see and understand what is happening in the engineering and build of these vehicles. Thank you.
Thanks Ron and welcome! we are glad to have you as a subscriber.
Ron, set some time aside.
Binge watch required!! 👍
Appreciate the detail in showing what parts under the hood have changed!
Amazing at what detailed level you are working. But this gives also a good understanding, why Tesla has to shut down the factory sometimes to adjust the manufacturing process to let all these small changes happen. Which we as a usual customer will never see or recognize. Thanks for all that great work and videos.
Congratulations on achieving 300,000 subscribers! 🙂👍
Thanks
MAN, that razor sponsorship was right on point.
Production quality Level of Apple commercials
Very worthwhile being a subscriber to this channel! Love it! I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV!
Sandy! you were born to sell razors! Love it!
Monroe & Associates, thank you for providing us lay folk with your intellectually informative and entertaining content so frequently. I often find myself forgetting how recently the Monroe & Associates YT channel was started because of Corey's find understanding of just how much the public would understand and enjoy a glimps at a few less detailed, less significant engineering analysese in compairison to the extremely complex details the customers pays big money to access and have at their fingertips. Thank you and I always look forward to your next episode.
Thanks a bunch for this video :D , alway fun to learn and see pro's at work.!
Fascinating videos about the new Model Y. Thank all of you!
Wow you can see the technology advancing in these vehicles at a incredible rate.
I like Eric's new aux light he can switch on to illuminate the nooks and crannies for easy viewing. Way to go Munro!
Sandy or not, keep the coming. I always learn a lot from this style of video; I feel like we're getting to peak behind the curtain and learn the trade secrets.
Well done. Excellent job. As a guy who's worked on cars as whole life I'm continuously impressed with the improvements. Looks like fun taking apart cars which aren't filthy and oily and gross.
Intriguing complimentary complexity analyzed/ explained
To everyone at Munro Live and Munro & Associates, congratulations on THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND viewers! 🍻
It’s great to hear you thinking though engineering issues here. Very interesting.
Sandy's ad is superior!
That may have been the best add placement I have ever seen! Great video as always! Would love to tour Munro and Associates!
Omg LOL love the Henson shaving skit. 😂 almost fell off my chair
Lmao the finest product add sponsorship on TH-cam. Bringing in the wife after the shave was brilliant. And we know she has the engineering background so the 400 grit compression is likely spot on.
Really cool video. Loved Sandy's ad :). One thing that would be amazing is if you guys teardown a used 2017 Model 3 and point out all the improvements. I know you did tear one down and Sandy hated a lot about it, would be great to redo it in the new format.
The "spot welds" you pointed out appear to be cold work stamping to me. Nothing better than metal that sticks together by itself to hold your adhesive bond. "no part" philosophy there. Probably the heat from deformation and thin-ness of the glue section in the compression area tack the components together. Cheers to getting into these awesome details of the consumer products. Always gotta appreciate and keep the big companies honest!
Tesla should invite Monroe in to make a video following an engineering team at Tesla making some small improvement. It would be great for Tesla recruitment to show how even new employees can be listened to and respected.
TESLA Enginering Day w/ MUNRO .
The Tesla engineering managers and leads often share these visits on their LinkedIn. Wouldn't be a bad idea
They probably don't want to show the old companies how it's done, they usually take years to make small changes.
amazing how far things have changed over time. Cool!
Excellent, excellent engineering analysis!
Amazing video, really love the depth!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love this content! Thanks for producing it.
Thanks for watching!
If Munro Associates goes public, I would be a long-term investor.
Thank you, guys!
Spectacular presentation. Good to see more of the results of the gigapress changes. Tesla continues to refine production and reduce component parts. Thanks Carl and Cory for sharing your expertise.
As a SCCA racer, I enjoy the same detail you guys put into showing us the current model Y innovation. When I built my Datsun 510 B sedan race car, i assembled many of the parts i bought from Roberts Hydraulics whom specialize in used Military aircraft parts. Why not I built my race car using airplane parts. Things like accumulators, temp sensors, centrifugal filters and all sorts of parts.
Those casting are beautiful.
Thank you for your great videos! Greatings from Austria.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for constantly putting out great content like this!
Thank you all again for a fantastic video with so much information!
Our pleasure!
Recently got a Model Y. Every component is made for efficiency.
Continuous improvement mantra is preached in all automotive.......impressive in Teslas philosophy . Thanks Munro and team your analysis at the granular level gives me as an engineer / investor confidence we have only seen the tip of the Tesla iceberg to date.
Tesla Daily and Monroe Live are the two best TH-cam channels in my humble opinion, been subscribed from the start👍👍👍
I appreciate that!
I'd also add "The Limiting Factor". :)
Very interesting… great 👍 job… love hearing about manufacturing details.
Great job guys!
Great analysis, best! Loving these in detail view of progress Tesla does to their vehicles. Loving you all and Sandy is sweet too!
It is frustrating to see many companies are bankrupted, NOT changing their product for the past 30 years. The mentality "We always did it that way" is simply not working anymore!
Thanks team Munro!
Kinda like the Model S looking the same for the last decade? 😂😂
@@ganymede3141 You need new glasses!
Maybe a mercedes horse is something for you!
@@ganymede3141 model s does not look the same and it's not even the same car at this point.
@@ganymede3141
You mean apart from a complete front end revision years ago, new parts throughout the car and the latest car with ever body panel different except 1?
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We're in Porsche 911 territory here.
@@clevernduruza8624 Other than a slightly tweaked front bumper in 2016 (getting rid of the black faux grille) and an even more minor cosmetic tweak in 2020, the Model S looks exactly the same as in 2012. It's getting very long in the tooth.
Great review and I always enjoy hearing Carl. Guess some pros review cars and some amateurs review razor blades.
As an old mechanic (I’m 82 ) I would say why did they put that bolt there? You’ve opened my eyes. Watching your videos seys it all.
Thank you very interesting, you all have a great weekend. Michael
Munroe is really in the business of Tesla forensic specialists.
22:03 *Un* -fortunately ?!?
Power to you! Keep them coming those awesome videos, with or without Sandy 🙏🏻
personally I to see all of the little changes that would otherwise go unnoticed. As i always say, it's the little details that paint the big picture! Great work as always and thanks for the video, Team Munro!
I’ve never ever rewound and advert but if Sandy says this blade is within tolerance, then I will try it. Please don’t disappoint me for dollar old man 😘😛
Best commercial I've seen
Thank you very much!!
Will there be a video with Munro and the giga casting machine from idra?
Yes. Video is being edited right now.
@@MunroLive woohoo!
"Because we've always done it this way" is what Tesla runs away from. Their agility is the secret to their lead. Anybody can shoot hoops, but you don't get to be Micheal Jordan by "just" shooting hoops. You push to the limit every day.
My favourite saying is "There are three ways to do everything - the right way, the wrong way, and the way we've always done it".
Mr Musk is many great things.His greatest accomplishment is he is a good human being.may God bless and keep you sir.
Crooked body panels. "We've always done it this way." Sh*tty paint. "We've always done it this way." No sound insulation. "We've always done it this way." Rising prices. "W'eve always done it this way."
Really; Tesla is a new company, they don't have a "way we've always done it" the truth is their early efforts were poorly designed for assembly line production.
No Tesla does nothing special!
Carl mentions a brand new tool for the new aluminum member at 3:45 . Important is to remember that this car came out of a new factory where they did not "replace" the stamping tool, but used a new one from day 1
Great video guys, love to keep track of your progress.
Awesome job team! Excellent vid. 400 grit is now my goal to keep my girl happy. Gotta get me a Henson to stay "hensome" and try to keep my game at least close to Sandy's.
Thanks
Fun to wach again now that I've got an Austin Y. All the best