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Russia have tried Sweden's defenses several times.
Just last week, a SU-24 flew 5km in over Gotland but was chased away by two JAS39.
The U137 sub incident on the 27th of October 1981 (lasted until November 5th 1981) was a so called "faulty navigation" however, that is easily contradicted since they managed to evade several obstacles without any problems (navigating that far into the Swedish archipelago isn't easy and demand skill, the only "faulty navigation here was the last 10-20 meters before they beached). The reason they even tried was to pickup a Spetznaz group that had been spying in a new anti-submarine weapon (Torped 42) exercises that was took place outside to the Swedish Naval base in Karlskrona. I was down there myself, doing SIGINT so we got aware that if Swedish Special Forces tried to take the sub by force, the crew were ordered to blow it up. We another friend of mine from the Swedish Military Research institute, was that they had four nuclear torpedoes with a yield comparable to 3 Nagasaki nukes. According to the political officer onboard (he wrote a book about the incident), the nuke's were armed and would have detonated if Sweden tried to take the sub. I have attached a link to the incident description from the Swedish Navel defense forces. It is in Swedish but should be easy enough to translate:
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It wasn’t chased away away. It was escorted out.
@@tihi79
Semantics!
It wasn't like it was lost when it flew over 5km in over Swedish territory and needed to find it's way out. It was called in radio several times but continued into Swedish territory!
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Sweden and Finland joined NATO because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, not the other way around.
Need to check with article 42.2 of the EU. Talk and preparation preceded the invasion, not actually joining anything. If that was the case Russia sure is taking its sweet time getting back into Finland.
Semi-attached to that, Finland have also been in NATO Light (PFP) since early nineties. Right about when USSR caved. Which was probably sensible, since there is usually no more uncertain time than the power vacuum of a former one party system.
Another thing not mentioned in the video is that Finland too had pretty much the same former neutrality and mainly defensive build-up as Sweden. The only difference is more cooperation with NATO in general, and US in particular. They are not exactly buying the very planes that would have been perfectly suited to Finnish infrastructure almost as well as the Swedish after all. ;)
Makes one wonder for how long Sweden will be able to maintain the SAAB planes as part of it all though..
Exactly. I watched that video. Lots of wrong things in it
@@AltCutTV I think it's unlikely SAAB will develop a 5th gen fighter if Sweden remains the only major user of their aircraft, it's just way to expensive.
@@RaXXha They won't. SAAB is already involved in the UK's Tempest 6th gen fighter project.
Spetznas are walking around in arkipelagen of seaside in Sweden.
The Soviet submarine incident in 1981 wasn't just a submarine driving around in Swedish waters, it ran aground and got stuck.
whiskey on the rocks
Only a few kilometers from a big Swedish Navy Base...
Rumor has it that Swedish spies provided the Russian navy with Absolut Vodka containing no alcohol at all albeit still providing the original taste (a masterpiece of Swedish chemical engineering!) AND fake maps of Swedish archipelagoes leading to this embarrassing misnavigation.
A NUCLEAR armed submarine.
It was also sweden effectivly declearing war on ussr. Something that been pretty much ignored in the history books
The JAS Gripen is considered a 4th generation fighter jet, but it can perform all military aviation duties depending on loadout. The acronym "JAS" stands for "Jakt", "Attack" and "Spaning" in Swedish, which translated to English would be roughly "Fighter/Interceptor", "Striker/Bomber" and "Reconnaissence".
Gripen C, E are both regarded more advanced than 4:th generation though... but not full 5:th generation. Many experts call it a 4.5 Gen, especially the E/F variant since it is a completely new fighterjet compared to previous variants. Looks the same but is bigger, new engine, two more hardpoints and probably has the most advanced EW suite in the world.
I live in northern Sweden close to the city Luleå which holds many JAS 39’s so almost everyday I get to see those amazing metal birds!
me too!
I did my military service in the Swedish airforce as an electromech on J35 Draken, which later was superseded by J37 Viggen that now been replaced by J39 JAS.
each and every aircraft developed by Sweden, each and every aircraft top of the line for their age.
It is fair to say that we know a thing or two about state of the art fighter jets.
I was at the halmsatd wheels & wings I think it’s called, a few days ago. that metal bird that did tricks above us was amazing!
They're stunning metal birds indeed! I live fairly close to F7 base, so hear and see the planes every now and then
Same 😍
There is no NATO membership payment.
The membership doesnt cost anything in that regard.
What there is is an obligation to invest in your own military forces and your civilian and military infrastructure.
As a member you agree to spend at least 2% of your GDP on your military forces and to make sure that your infrastructure is up to date and integrated with the rest of the alliance to be able to facillitate the logistics needed in the case of a war.
No more, no less
As for NATOs expansion eastward, NATO was pretty passive. What happened was that when the wall came down a lot of former USSR members and satelite states came banging at the door in fear of what Russia might do in the future. They had had russian tanks in the streets in the past and didnt want to have them back in the future.
And Russia eventually proved them right. First in Georgia in 2008 and then in Ukraine in 2014
As a member a country agrees to work towards spending 2% of the countries GPD into military crap.
Right. It's curious how Trump puts it as if every other NATO member owes the US "protection money" and how he'd let the Russians do "whatever the hell they want" to those who don't "pay up". The Russians are listening closely. But they wouldn't start invading Portugal or Luxembourg, they'd start at their own borders, but every country bordering Russia is spending way more than 2% already. And yes, we came banging at the door because we KNEW that the shit happening now in Ukraine would also happen to us if we didn't.
Ukraine is not a small country. The population of Ukraine is 4 times larger than that of Sweden
swedens population is like nothing xD
@@eirik874 You tend to forget tho that that the area of Norway sweden and finland.. is HUGE!!!
Ukraine is shithole country compared to Sweden. This time size doesnt matter. 😉
@@andersgulowsen2814 no no I'm born and raised in norway I know it takes 24 hours with car from oneside to the other... I'm just saying the population vs land is nothing.
Ukraine got population, but it's pretty poor as Sweden got more then 3 times as high GDP making Sweden having more money to spend on military. This is also why Sweden donating surplus military materials are actually noticeable for Ukraine.
As a Finn I really Dont love Russia.
Who is the worst ockuperers. The in human russian or the gay swedish?
@@matsv201 gay russian
@@matsv201 the gay Russians
@@matsv201wdym gay Swedish
@@matsv201 Trust me, being under the Gay swedes is way better than the inhumane Russians
-a swede
Russia needs to return Karelen to Finland.
Finland dont want it back.
Realistically speaking, we don't need it nor want it back. Getting Karelia back is not even on our radar, because whatever prosperity the region once had under Finnish rule, the Soviets and Russians have managed to squander it all. Have you seen what Viipuri looks like? The place looks like it's stuck in time, buildings are dilapidated and run down, streets full of potholes and all the infrastructure is crumbling. The whole region would need billions of € poured into it to restore it to the level of the rest of the country. We simply can't afford that.
And then remains the question of what to do with all the hundreds of thousands of ethnic Russians in the area since there are hardly any Karelians or Ingrians left that could be easily integrated into our society. Getting Karelia back is an unwanted burden.
@@Abiodun92 Russia is living in the wrong century. Russia has practices that seem outdated or unsuited to the modern global order. This perspective arises from the contrast between modern democracy, economic diversification, human rights and international cooperation, and Russia's conservative, authoritarian and often aggressive politics. Russians ways of operating and thinking seem to be at odds with today's global development.
@@OlaviTuikka3247 The so-called "modern global order" is just the Western global order.
And St. Peterburg to Sweden.
Sweden and Finland applied for NATO membership when Russia attacked Ukraine. Not before that.
Though I gotta say, its inaccurate to think of the war in ukraine as being caused by countries like sweden and finland wanting to join nato. Sweden never wanted to join nato, and the nato supporters in sweden was a very weak minority, *until* the war started, thats when joining nato became an "obvious" thing to do for many, including essentially all parties in the parliament.
Of course it wasn't! I don't know why no English source ever mentions this but before the war with Ukraine, either un december the year before or in January.Russia sent an ultimatum to us, saying that they want to forbid us from ever entering nato and wanted to control our security. We never wanted to join Nato, we had no plans to join Nato but being given an ultimatum by russia them wanting us to sign this agreement that they can decide over us was a fricken big overreach. They sent the same ultimatum to ukraine aswell and then they invaded ukraine and though that we weren't gonna join Nato after that? Like ..
The Finnish people wanted to join NATO because they have experienced numerous Russian aggressions throughout their history. Public opinion shifted after Russia's full-scale invasion.
@@OlaviTuikka3247 Here in sweden people did not at all want to join before, but after the war all major parties went for nato and public opinion went from an overwhelming No to an overvhelming yes
@@Johnne312 I'm still wondering why we did not have election on the topic like with EU. I think we should been allowed to vote on the topic. I don't like it being decided without a proper election.
@@ElayaHell I am still glad we joined, but yeah I also wonder why it wasn’t a vote
Sweden hasn't declared or been declared war in 200years, but Sweden has taken part in most major conflicts like Congo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, Libya, Mali, Persia, amongst others in the 20'th century. Saying they haven't fought in 200y is very wrong... the last war upon the nation was against Norway in 1814 though.
And that we 'should prepare for war' is exaggerated, would be more correct to say 'the public should be prepared _for the eventuallity_ of war", something that makes perfect sense with the world as it is these days. They're not saying we should buy guns or join the army, just to be prepared at home with food, water, supplies in case it does happen... and yes - it's totally because of Putin after they announced on russian state tv how they would conquer Gotland from Sweden - I think it was on the same eve as they invaded Ukraine.
Also the defense budget is currently 2.2% and will climb to 2.6% in 2026.
Sweden has joined the UN peacekeeping forces. That is not to declare a war.
@@kjell-egonstrandh5334 Which is exactly what I said :)
@@kjell-egonstrandh5334 no. But it is taking part in conflicts. Peacekeeping forces do actually fight. There are actual combat vets in the army at this moment.
America CAN'T expend NATO. America is just 1 out of over 30 countrys. Every single member have had to apply themself. And ALL members have to agree on any new members.
Exactly, that's Putlers way of using the language.
Sweden has the absolute best defence forces defending them from the Russia. It's called Finnish Defence Forces.
Yes, it's built pretty much the same way, with the same reasoning.
You have a point. We are trying to bulk up
You mean with Finland as our bodyguard? 😏
As tradition for the last 1000 years
The Suomi scare me too.. and I am Norwegian :)
I got kind of irritated at this reaction. He seems to have been exposed to russian propaganda. That it was NATO:s fault that Putler invaded Ukraine. Got disappointed.
Btw, Finland and Sweden joined NATO after the invasion!
I belive in that "propaganda" too.
Bro i think hes atcually stupid when he reacted to this he says evrething almost wrong and im from sweden
Dwayne clearly did NOT fact check at all. It is hugely problematic the alternative facts that are spread, especially propaganda from totalitarian nations.
@@herrbonk3635 Then just look for the history of Russia. Since the dissolvation of the Soviet Union this is at least Russia's seventh war. Ukraine rebelled against the pro-russian puppet president so Russia just attacked and too Crimea in 2014. The only guilt of people pulling towards west that they don't want to live in fear and poverty. Soviet flags were flying over Ukraine again and my country still remembers what does it mean. So I can just feel sorry for you to believe in the voice of the dictators.
@@laszloszalai3827 I do not defend dictators in any way. I'm critical of the other side or power, which I would not mention. I cannot express any true details on YT. Tried a couple much longer versions before. Got deleted immediately, like hundreds of my most serious and worked through comments.
That video said something very wrong. NATO/EU countries would not be forced to fight Russia if a member country started a war. However, if Russia attacks that could trigger article 5 and that MIGHT force other countries to join the war. It's a defence pact - not an offence pact.
No, the 2% is not a membership fee to NATO. It is how much each member is recommended to invest in their own military.
"NATO expansion" is the excuse, not the reason of Russia's invasion. Counties applies to become members, if they want, and all of the current members have to accept the application. Having a current land dispute, as Ukraine had since 2014 made them not able to become members even if they and all the current member wanted it. So the "expansion" was already a non-issue. That talk about NATO expansionism is on flat-earther level.
As mentioned in a former post, the 1981 incident was not just a sub in Swedish water, but one that ran aground deep inside. The Soviet Union sent a "rescue fleet" and it was minutes from it leading to a shootout between the Soviet Union and Sweden. When they noticed Sweden wouldn't just fold, they didn't cross the sea border and diplomacy resumed, leading to Sweden releasing the sub back to the Soviets.
The Baltic states were a weak point of NATO before Finland and Sweden joined. If Russia would take Gotland, they would be able to control the Baltic and the rest of NATO would have had a hard time helping the Baltic states.
Putin have more than once expressed a want to regain what once was part of the Russian empire, and besides Ukraine and the Baltic states, also included Finland.
Any land winnings made by Russia in a peace settlement will be a signal they can expand. So any compromise, unless wanting further wars with Russia or other similar countries makes unfortunately to only possible compromise if Russia should have to pay any reparations or not after they are kicked out of Ukraine.
Russia was in our airspace for 2 minutes this week. 2 gripen transferred the Russian plane out. We are on full alert.
Does not matter if ruzzia attacs Finland first. Finland sak är vår.
Haven’t you heard of the war in Bosnia? In the 1990s? That’s Europe.
It was a civil war!!! that dosnt count in this statisics
Being a Swede born in 1985, I most definitely remember the war that tore up Yugoslavia. I had many classmates at school who came to Sweden as refugees from that very war, and their stories were absolutely terrifying and heart breaking! I also had to calm one of the dads one day when we had a day at school where parents could visit class and we were outside and it started to thunder, the poor guy thought it was bombs! I was like 10-11 at the time and had to try to calm a grown man who had been traumatized by the war :(
I work with developing software for the JAS 39 Gripen and other SAAB aircrafts, and even though it's a great fighter jet when it comes to flying and weapon systems, the most impressive feature is its electronic warfare capabilities, being the best in the world
Sweden, Finland , Norway and Denmark has agreement on nordic airforce.. so there is plenty of Jas grippen, F-18s, f-16s, soon F-32s and not mention joint venture with Swedish - Finnish -Norway navy.. Finland has most effective mortar ability and that combined our Nordic brothers abilities and also sisters.. we are proud to have this co-operation.. Br. From Finland.. we do love our fellow nordic countries.. together we are are stronger... Sweden, Norway and Denmark..
Mortar? Do you mean artillery?
Sweden and Finland whas not part of NATO as we agreed to be a buffert zone between NATO and Russia. But the Russian invation of Ukraine made it impossible to remain neutral for Sweden.
The JAS fighter jet is developed to be an exelent engine to combat Russian aircrafts, anti air defenses and so on. It has even von against US aircrafts in RedFlag military exercise. One time the JAS won with a 10-0 score. Ones one single JAS "took down" 5 us aircrafts. And then we got the Swedish submarine that "sank" US biggest aircraft carrier over and over again. And when it comes to the JAS a lot of what makes JAS so good is all the electronical stuff that it suports. And it is fully NATO-compatible too.
NATO has not expanded but the sovereign countries want to live in freedom. And there was and is no treaty that says no other countries are allowed to join NATO.
But there was a treaty where Ukraine handed over its nuclear bombs to Russia and in return Ukraine became a sovereign country and Putin would not attack them.
Putin broke the contract.
A small correction, in 1991 the Soviet Union dissolved and then Ukraine became an independent country and in 1994 the Budapest agreement was signed where Ukraine handed over the nuclear weapons in exchange for Russia promising to respect Ukraine's independence and borders. Thus, Ukraine had already been its own independent country for 3 years when the agreement was written. Otherwise, I agree with you on everything :)
@@LasseEklofVissa vill inte höra sanningen Lasse men du har rätt.
The torpedoes of the skies are called “missiles” 😅
In the last week Russia have tresspassed Swedens and Finlands airspace twice and been stoped by JAS planes
In the 60´s Sweden had the third largest army in the world after US and Russia. Most of the defense is bulid in Sweden and with Swedish tech-specs, most of this is scary for other countries of course.
We are spending a lot of money but we are also selling JAS Gripen (gripen=the griffin cool name) to other countrys.
A Swede here, we are used to Russias try to Bully us. This has been going on for ever. The same for our siblings in Finland. The truth is that Russia is not something we think about or are scared off. Even if Putin behave crazy invading Ukraine, I can't see Russia trying to attack us any time soon. The same goes for all Nordic countries. Together are we financially stronger than Russia and our combined military strength is in Europe top.
Its true only Norway and Denmark is allowed to bully Sweden and vice versa xD
@@eirik874 Hahaha, a Swede here.👍
We have some weapons that no one knows about for sure, same as other countries. That is not nuclear. Some of the best tech is actually from Norway, Finland and Sweden. I Dont know.. But I am sure they are not posting it on Instagram... But Russia has fuck all it seems or they would have used it. What is really importent.. Is not to win it. Just get Russia the fuck out of Ukraine.. Why they are afraid is a mystery to me. If someone tried to give me Russia id escape to Jamaica and be a reaggie singer..
@@eirik874Yes you can haha 😂 🤝
@@eirik874 Finland too,
Russia is practically blocked from the Baltic sea. Their only two ports are St Petersburg, at the far end of the Gulf of Finland, and Kaliningrad both surrounded by NATO countries. There is also a choke point between Denmark and Sweden to get out to the Atlantic.
The reason Russia may go for Sweden first is the island of Gotland which is smack in the middle of the Baltic sea and can control any naval activity coming in our out of the Baltic.
Since Russia has practically
lost access to the Baltic sea I’m more worried for Estonia Latvia and Lithuania. Who together have a substantial Baltic coastline that Russia would die for.
Well, in theory, if they wanted to invade us, they either have to go through Finland (and that never ends well), or close the Suwalki gap really fast in order to attack from Kaliningrad. Of course the propagandists in their state tv talks more or less every day about nuking Berlin, Warsaw, London, Stockholm and that national park in the US. But the likelyhood of a conflict, as of now, is pretty low. But it´s also important to remember that our friends in the Baltics are right, if we fail to stand up for Ukraine and for democracy, they will go further in order to restore that old Russian empire.
All you need to know about J39's is that in NATO's military simulations over Alaska a couple of years ago, a single J39 with Meteor missiles kept taking out 5 American F16's with latest upgrades in simulated realistic scenarios in both beyond visual range fighting and in dogfighting. Over and over again, it wasn't taken out once despite being in a 1 vs 5. Now the F16 isn't the best plane out there, but it's still proof of how good the J39 is to be able to dominate in a 1 vs 5 scenario, as that's what it would have to do against much more numerous fighter jets from Russia.
They sometimes test fly a few Gripen planes and they sound like a thunder rolling in and subsides under 15 seconds.
If Finland is invaded, that would trigger article 5 today but before that, Sweden's air force would be in the sky if Finland was attacked. We had the Nordic defence force (of which the UK was a part of too) long before we joined NATO.
Also, we like Finland, they're our mates and you don't fuck with our mates.
Yes I also like Finland but if Putin attack Finland maybe we must help the russians? Our country use to like helping the one that is beaten;-)
The finns are dangerous people if you attack them
NATO would never invade as an aggressor. NATO is a defensive alliance, they won't strike first. Because article 5 is a call to respond not a call to assault.
NATO / USA is involved in every war that goes on right now. USA IS THE MOST AGGRESIVE COUNTRY AND The most disgusting country ever existed .
It is up to each country whether they want to join NATO. No one is forcing any country into NATO, but each country decides through its people and government.
6:38 It's just that, NATO doesn't attack another country or start a war. That is exactly what NATO stands for. For protection against a possible attacking nation (Russia), under the slogan "One for all - all for one". ✌ By the way, Ukraine is the biggest country in Europe.
"decides through its people and government."
That did not happen in Sweden though... the people of Sweden had no say in this at all. Only the political parties. :/
@@TemalCageman Well, through a variety of surveys of people on 04/20/2022, 49% were positive, 27% negative, and 24% don't know.
In 2019, 38% answered positively to the same question about whether they were prepared to join NATO
@@larszenthio1012 We never had the democratic choise in voting for this though. We had a democratic vote on becoming members in EU etc, etc... but... I have a feeling that the political parties of today are actually afraid of their voters "voting wrong". So they skip the democratic route.
@@larszenthio1012 Also know that "oppinion polls" are at most 10k people out of 10 million people (when it comes to Sweden).
@@TemalCageman We have a representative democracy, meaning we elect people to represent us in making decisions. Referendums are very rare in Sweden, and they are on top of that only consultative, meaning parliament isn't bound by the results of the referendum. And yes, we did have a say in this matter. We applied for membership on May 18 2022. We had a general election on September 11 2022, where pro-NATO parties got 86% of the votes. That's how our democracy works. If anti-NATO parties had received a majority of votes, I'm sure they would have rescinded the application.
Nato didnt "push" - former east countries realized that Russia will continue to "swallow" former eastblock countries while eyeing for the baltic region
The Saab and Volvo doingmiltary stuff in Sweden are pretty much different companies compared to their automotive counterparts.
Heck, I’m pretty sure civilian Volvo is owned by a Chinese company these days.
Volvo Cars is owned by Geely, a Chinese company. Volvo AB, the trucks and buses manufacturer, is Swedish.
The reason Russia would invade Sweden is that our location and ownership of the majority of the Baltic Sea means that we have one of the best positions for invading Europe. If Russia invaded Sweden, it would have direct access by water to Denmark, Norway, Finland, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Germany etc. The Swedish military has been talking about this for years (if you want to find a more direct source for it). An estimation from a couple of years ago estimated that Russia would be able to overtake Sweden in 14 hours, since we have one of the smallest populations in Europe (10.5 million people so the equivalent of the population of Moscow) but we're the fifth largest country in Europe by landmass. It's also been made increasingly clear that other countries (especially the US) wouldn't help with boots on the ground, which would be needed if they invaded, so when they invaded Ukraine we decided to give up our neutrality to protect ourselves and everyone else.
I mean don't get it twisted, we would've whooped them for as long as possible, but technically speaking they have enough people (and are a communist country that can call in their people to battle whether the people want it or not), that with patience (and their tendency to be willing to sacrifice their population like sheep for slaughter) they could've just erased our population from the face of the planet. Sounds a bit dramatic, but you know what I mean.
I think Putin should try to understand one thing: many in NATO do not want to attack Russia for any reason. If he understands that and tries to work with that, we can avoid nuke war.
Of course he understands that. He's pretty intelligent, unlike some other leaders... It's the USA that needs to stop pretending Russia wants to invade estern Europe just because they were provoked by USA infiltrating their immediate neighbour for decades. And USA needs to stop pretending that Russia want's war. It's them that wants war. Their politicians being paid by the war industry.
Why would he if he can expand his empire and might “without major consequences”
@@MaxTheLegend_YT if he can, yes. But without nukes and China, can he?
@@mikkovaan8636 he wouldn’t even have started any war without his only trump card, nukes
@@MaxTheLegend_YT Well, you said it yourself without knowing it.. his best card is the "Trump-card". And then i mean the real "Trump-card" with the possibility that Donald Trump becomes US new president. Then Putins dream comes true, Trump want to leave Nato, leaving all countries defending themselves and lets accept the fact! The entire Europe don't stand a chans against Russia if we don't have US fighting by our side! Trump is the biggest threat for freedom in Europe and democracy all over the world right now. And thats a SCARY thought.
We have a statue in sweden of king Charles XII pointing in the direction of Russia, warning us from the danger Russia is posing
Yes, the statues are actually to comemorate all the soldiers that died in the war, rather than the king himself. Thats why the statues are always pointing a the direction of Poltava
@@marcusfridh8489 Which was Russia back then but Poltava is in facto in the Ukraine
By the way the countries been diveded after the fall of sovietunion it is actually pointing towards Ukraine today
@@Hookee2000 well Mazepa tried to fight Peter for independence for ukraine
@@Hookee2000 No hes pointing east in the direction of moscow not south east where ukraine is located
The Jas Gripen is known as one of the best jets in the world, and have defeated all others in war games without been taken down their self. The Archer (as Brittain have taken as their primarily) is known as the worlds best artillery. The submarines that took down a American aircraft carrier in a wargame with all its defense with other ships etc, it went in and out, did the work and no one even knew they where there. This and much, much more is swedish defense.....
Yes, sweden prepares for war, bigtime. From not letting factorys make stuff for the military, and now everybody makes military stuff. Defence ministry said to us swedes to prepare for war half a year ago
All Scandinavian+ countries are on a higher alert. Here in Denmark we were told last week, to have food and water for three days. We also have to stock up on iodine tablets. It is expected that Russia might start a hybrid war. So, better safe than sorry.
NATO has always been open for new countries to join. What you are referring to is russian propaganda. It is always an independent states own decision if it wants to be part of the alliance. You should check out a video of the secretary general, he explains it well. In Norway we are preparing for a potential war in the north. Parts of Norway once belonged to the Russian empire before it became Norwegian. And Putins crown jewel, the northern fleet, is stationed just 10 miles east of Finnmark. Its problematic. Nuclear warheads and stuff. And Sweden does not share a border with Russia.
Gripen is the swedish word for the mythical creature Griffin which is also the logo of SAAB.
One thing he missed is that the gripen can carry the meteor missiles. Atm only 3(maybe F35 soon? so 4) airplanes in the world can carry it, and its max range is 200km.
Its hailed as the pinnacle air-to-air missile and it travels at mach 4.
And the thing you mentioned about the wing tips, thats where they put modular EW pods. And the gripens EW(electronic warfare) suite is among the best in the world.
Also, the reason contries are scared of russia attacking IS just because of the reason they have nukes, since they can just scare people around with the nuke card and then start attacking while holding that over the country all the time.
Thats what they are doing with ukraine atm, they are constantly threatening with nukes if anyone actually helps ukraine, thats why countries are sending them just the tools(tanks/planes/ammo etc) and not military troops.
Meteor doesn't travel at Mach 4, actually it's the other way around as it's main advantage is that it's slower the other missiles, but that slower speed translates to longer range. Most other missiles accelerates to max speed then start to rapidly lose that speed from drag. Meteors uses a longer burn engine instead.
@@znail4675 Sure it might start off slow, but it can go above mach 4 if needed.
@@znail4675 The Meteor Missile, which was first tested using the JAS 39 Gripen (thanks to its modular design when it comes to computer power and adaptability to new weapon systems), can reach speeds over Mach 4. Just look it up.
Sweden was silent submarttook out US marine. The borrowed it for six months....
Submarine Gotland
Hi im Swede. And yes our commander in chief proclaim all citizens to lvl up and prepare for possible war. Lots of tip and all sell on sitez of survivel kits are out for sell.
It should also be noted that the idea that Sweden and Finland do not have nuclear weapons is ... well we have all the materials and all of the delivery systems and if push comes to shove we could produce them really fast. On paper we are not nuclear nations, in reality though, we're just nations with nuclear weapons ready for assembly.
Russia has always been an aggressive neighbour bullying smaller countries like Georgia, the Balkan countries and minorities in Russia. Sorry but this video was a bit unclear on that. No other country has had a nuclear armed submarine standing on a foreign countries shore, which happened with a Soviet sub in Sweden. Its a crap country.
Quite a few fact errors about NATO , Sweden and Russia. I
How probable is war? Not much, right?
We have a similar situation now as 110 years ago, when a lot of countries joined alliances and increased their military capacity to secure peace all around. And nothing bad came out of that, did it?
BTW; one NATO country attacking Russia doesn't mean WWIII, since no other NATO member is obligated to join an attack as it's a *defence* pact. It is even possible for any member to not join in defence of other members being attacked, but that would possibly mean exclusion from the alliance.
Blud is even more scared of an Swedish invasion than me, Swedish myself 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Also there's one Swedish fighter (can't remember its name) and it can control other fighters missile launchers (of the same fighter plane family of course)
I also have heard that the reason why Russia attacked Ukraine is because NATO expanded in Eastern Europe.
But, please face it, that is just simply Russian propaganda.
As free countries/nations they decided that they rather would like to be members of NATO than the Soviet Union 2.0.
And, Russia didnt like that, i.e. that other countries/nations have their own/free choices.
That is simply disgusting!
In city i live in Sweden, 50min from Stockholm.
Russia has put up some kind of Church. Like 500m from Airfield and control tower.
And now like 5-7yr later Swedish Gov starts to wounder if Russia track planes and the Airfield.
Its was on news a yr ago.
im from sweden and putin is just a little scaredy cat¨
I don't know why no English source ever mentions this but before the war with Ukraine, either un december the year before or in January.Russia sent an ultimatum to us, saying that they want to forbid us from ever entering nato and wanted to control our security. We never wanted to join Nato, we had no plans to join Nato but being given an ultimatum by russia them wanting us to sign this agreement that they can decide over us was a fricken big overreach. They sent the same ultimatum to ukraine aswell and then they invaded ukraine...Oh and they talked on russia tv about invading the swedish island of Gotland and then they think we wouldnt join Nato after that. . Like ..
Litteraly a self-fullfilling prophecy
7:02 the nuclear submarine actually ended up getting stuck and then getting surrounded.
I think it was in the Folk & Försvar conference in Sälen about 10 months after the invasion of Ukraine that Bohlin said it.
The Russian sub was stuck in our archipelago and the Russian government said it was a navigation mistake but there was suspicion that they were spying
Bro Sweden was in a war to 3 countries in the 1800s and survived
It wasn't just jets that got shot down, it was also a DC-3 shot down by Russia in the 50s, the plane was lost until end of the 90s, and it got salvaged in early 00s. You can actually see it at Air force Museum in Linköping
We only announced that we went from basically a peacetime volunteer armed forces, to a reintroduction of conscription and an increase in our defence spending budget to get it to NATO gdp percentage goals. As well as to prepare for the eventual if unlikely case of a war.
But yes, in a manner of speaking. The bear has awakened the Swedish tiger once more.
Ohh, and the JAS designation stands for "Jakt (hunt) Attack, Spaning (Recon) as in our Gripen plattform is a truly multirole fighter that has many features it excels at.
Russian submarines swimming around in our waters happened multiple times. The time they talked about in the video is probably not the incident you’re thinking about.
Basically, the instance in the video probably refers an incident where a Soviet submarine almost caused a war by getting stranded in Blekinge. Apparently, one of the personel on board almost shot a Swedish soldier.
The incident you’re heard of is probably the one that made the news in 2014, when everyone raised a fuss about a Russian sub snooping around in Stockholm harbour, which definately controbuted to the state of raised military alert and national awareness eventually culminating in our NATO membership.
They said sub "incident" in 1981... and it WAS the Sovjet sub U137 in Karlskrona, Blekinge. I was 11yo at the time and lived in Blekinge, when it happend.
They forgot our Archer System as a defence.
I like your sober take on the conflict, a peace deal is crucial for the sake of humanity.
A Swede
our defense minister has said on open TV that, "there could be war" . :-)
I know
Knowledge of history is important here. Estonia Latvia and Lithuania have been conquered and annexed by Russia/Ussr multiple times with periods of independence in between. So after regaining independence after the fall of Ussr, they themselves applied for membership in Nato. So they would be protected from a new round of conquering and annexation. Russia is known for its conquer and annex, through it's history.
Poland did the same of similar historic reasons. The rest of the former WP countries most likely joined Nato to insure not to risk being puppet states to Russia again.
Just 6 years ago Russia invading/attacking Sweden was "sci-fi" level stuff.
Now it's a real concern.
Well, they practiced an attack 11 years ago.
Some people in riksdagen warned for that allreddy in 2011... some other party laughed at it and told them the cold war is over.
Same party that laughted then, say that the party they laughed at always supported russia.
Well i guess. If it turned out that you where wrong. Just lie.
I was born in Sweden in 1975. I grew up watching reports on the news about Russian/Soviet planes regularly coming into our airspace and submarines into our waters. I knew where the shelters were at the age of 8. While the threat seemed to decrease somewhat in the 90's, to say that an attack from Russia on Sweden was "sci-fi level stuff" simply doesn't correspond to my reality.
@@janpersson9818 It's different when you grew up during the cold war
@@janpersson9818 Well giving benefit of the doubt, there argument was that USSR and Russia was not the same country.
Still most people at that age range (still talking about elected people in the earl 10 that should remember at least the 80s) should know that USSR was basically controlled by russa, or rather Moscow.
On the third hand. This was mostly the people that never disliked USSR that much to begin with
2:45 portugal didnt join nato untill 1975... portugal next to spain snd greece was basicallt axis member that never joined the war. Hence they was bared from nato untill the become more deomcratic.
7:30 its worth saying that in 1981 sweden declared war on ussr, and they chickened out.
The situation was sweden wasy saying, you go 500 meters more forward with your ship and we exterminate your navy.
Ussr ordered the ship in, but the amiral on board well knowing swedens capsbility at the time was not suicidal. So he ordered the ship stopped.
12:40 pretty much nothing is corect at this point. The expansion of the airfocrce and nuclear weapons program happened at the same time.
The swedish program went a head at pretty good speed since we at that time had spies in usa. Uk and ussr nuclear weapons program. So we could pretty much just build one... well when the plutonium was ready. That took a few years.
Sweden also made a variable yeald bomb prior to usa. If the bomb was ever assebled or not is debated. But we know it was made. There is some speculatlation that it was even tested as a low yeald device in a cave.
That speculation was consideted impossible untill many years later when test from other countries show that devices with a so low yeald was actually possible.
13:45 that is also not really true. The D model lack a few system, for example the auto cannon.
Sweden have no gripen F, only brasil have gripen F. Swedish airforce thought it was not needed since they alreddy jad a bunch of gripen D.
Vid en testflygning i närheten av mitt hus, skapades en ljudbang och spräckte mitt köksfönster. Som tur var bara ett fönter🙃
As for now, all NATO country has told Ukraine "Do not use our weapon in Russia!" Except for two countries! Sweden has approved "if you need to strike in Russia for victory, you may do it with our weapons". Do not remember exacly with other country that gave them approve for it, but i think UK
No shit we have jets. Swedish Aeronatics Aktiebolaget, AKA SAAB. They have been producing top notch fighters since the early 60’s
A Russian military aircraft violated Swedish airspace just a day or so ago.
It was escorted back by two Jas 39 Gripen.
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the thumbnail was like: *SHOCKED* YOU SWEDES HAVE FIGHTER JETS????
913Mph will be 1369km 💀 and as a Swedish citizen I didn’t even know Sweden had a very strong air force 😅 but I am glad we have 😊
The main reason Sweden and Finland joined NATO is because their defence was based on that attacking them was not worth the cost, but that was also true for Ukraine. That is why the invasion changed everything.
The reason Sweden didn't get involved in ww2 was because we gave all our gun to Finland in their civil war to support them, and when ww2 really started we didn't have any guns to defend them self, there for we didn't fight. So Sweden started to use diplomatics to save peoples lives instead of guns :)
I live in Sweden and kinda long ago i dont remember when but i saw mutiple helicopters Flying over me
Edit:i forgot to say this but it was just training
As a Swedish Military Guy, I can tell u. So in 2023 They annopunced that we are close to war and that we shouldn´t worry so much because its very slim that we get in war. Our jets are very good on Air To Air due to oyr Famous "DOrito" Jets 🤣 and because ofour highly trained Soldiers due to the Military Army being very tiny. They higherd the income for payment so that more people would join the Army, Im aiming to become a soldier yes because i think its very fun and i grew up with Military stuff. Well we also ahve very good boats, Jets, Tanks Especially due to Finland and Denmark and Norway. We joined nato due to the war that might arrive. I hope i explained good for yall. Ill respond if you guys ahve questions. (No im not a soldier)
Important: "what are the changes of a war breaking out?" at 15:14 in. Here is the answer: very, very low IF you are clearly stronger than the agressor. If you are weak, the chances are very, very high. The price of freedom is more than just vigilance alone.
What Russia primarily wants in Sweden is maritime dominance over the Baltic Sea and Sweden's islands. Russia has a very large military presence in Kallinigrad, it is mainly from here that they threaten Sweden.
When it comes to the Swedish defense, our equipment is much better than the Russians', but Putin has more of everything.
When it comes to Estonia, the USA would start a nuclear war over Estonia, no, hardly, both Estonia and Russia know this.
One reason Swedes are so for Ukraine is because we know that if Russia succeeds in Ukraine, he will start to look to other countries, Russia has already started to question the maritime borders in the Baltic Sea and wanted to expand its territory.
Even before NATO, Sweden and Finland had military cooperation. A little simplified, you can say that Sweden would put more focus on aviation and naval defense, while Finland would put more focus on infantry.
When it comes to Ukraine, you have a bit of a fault or a very Putin way of looking at why they were attacked. There had been many more attacks before on many countries if they had not been part of NATO, if they were not, like Belarus, i.e. a vassal state of Russia. None of the countries in Eastern Europe would probably have been able to become Western countries if they had not joined NATO.
1:38 its missiles..
sweden did not even need to join nato in the first place bc nato do not want russia in the middle of nato so thay would defend sweden if russia attacked
In the nordic countries, Finland had the best soldiers while Sweden has the best weapons and weapon industry
A few months ago I got notice to report to Karlsborg because of a Russian threat, ended up being Russians testing our defences but when that happens you don't get full information immediately so you say goodbye to your loved ones and go.
Here’s why eastern Europe is preparing to face Russia:
Nuclear deterrence only works if you assume it doesn’t work at all.
It’s a pretty inflexable last resort policy, and should only be used when a country is completely unwilling to budge, while not caring about the consequences.
Basically, if you’re not preparing to win an actual conventional war, the opposing side might decide you’re simply posturing with your nukes, and decide to Blitzkreig you into submission before you actually use those nukes, or something along those lines.
Basically, eastern Europe is doubting the effectiveness of the deterrence for keeping it safe, as Putin might decide that the west is too disunified for NATO to actually stand a chance of actually defending the Baltics in the long term.
It doesn’t actually matter whether or not such a hypothetical Putin is correct, as he only needs to think that he’s right to launch us into a world war.
I honestly don’t think either side is willing to start off using its nukes either, as that is a major escelation of hostilities. However, such a conflict might inevitably end up escelating into a nuclear exchange unless someone is willing to budge.
Eastern Europe is currently very unwilling to budge, as it would mean other countries to walk all over the west in the future, thinking us (the collective west) weaklings unwilling to protect our own freedom.
The Saab and Volvo making jets are still Swedish owned unlike the car manufacturers of the same names.
The car manufacturer SAAB is basically defunked, only making spare parts for allready existing SAAB cars nowadays
I worked for an electrical company in Sweden for a couple of years and when Russia invaded Ukraine we were all on high alert. Atleast the security department and so on, between all the companies. Everything got more secretive because if Russia finds out where our electricity is supplied from they can attempt to destroy the locations and ruin a lot in the whole country. Also all electrical companies in Sweden had (probably still has) many attempts of cyber attacks from Russia.
Torpedo = under water
Missile = in air
Swedens fighter pilots were also training more extremely during the cold war than any other countries, the death rate of fighter pilots was high as hell during training missions. This was because they were flying very close to the sea surface and the treelines to be able to avoid enemy raydars and do surprice strikes, now I think it´s a bit more humane but many women lost their husbands in regular exercises, sad but true. Sweden accepted a few percent losses of planes and pilots to get the worlds absolute top airforce (the real Top Gun :).
Just to make it clear: Sweden's population is small, but by landmass we're the fifth largest country in Europe 😊
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Fun fact: during the cold war sweden had airbases in the mountains
I skimmed through the comments, so I might have missed one already explained this.
time for a history lesson.
current Finland was once a part of Sweden. which is why some parts of Finland mainly speak Swedish. a bit like Canada with the French and English.
but the during the war in the early 1800s, they invaded it (and even parts of Sweden).
after WW1 Finland was created as a new country.
during WW2 there were Swedish airmen flying aircraft squadrons trying to fight off the Russians to help them.
after WW2 the Scandinavian countries have tried to help each other. Sweden even had one of the most numeral air force in the world not counting the big ones (US, UK, France, Russia(
Norway and Denmark joined NATO to get some protection, but Finland and Sweden stayed neutral because of political reasons.
with the current things happening things changed and the majority of both of our countries knew we had to change
JAS 39 Gripen is such a stunning plane, and one working very well! I'm Swedish and live fairly close to the air base where the JAS 39 Gripen pilots are trained, always amazing hearing them fly over at times, or seeing them perform at air shows (I love air shows!)
We have had good relations with NATO for a long time with a lot of joint exercises with NATO, so even before we joined NATO, we were kinda halfway in. As a Swede I felt it was only natural for us to join NATO, especially with all our neighbors being members, and we have a lot we can contribute to NATO just like NATO can and does help us. The Russian invasion of Ukraine just made the step into NATO happen I guess.
I'm Swedish and I live in Sweden and it's been a while since we got brochures out if a crisis came or if there was a war where to go
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17:59 we have a joke in Sweden that goes: “we will be able to defend ourselves if the invading country sends one troop at a time” but I think that even if NATO abandoned us we would still be able to hold our lines for a while but that is MY guess