Lovecraft Country ... Was Just Not Very Good
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I just can’t wrap my head around how Montrose was able to kill someone who was supposed to be immortal. I was so hyped for Yahima and so disappointed that they introduced this amazing non-binary Indigenous person just to take them away. That’s when the show started sliding down for me and it went down again when they made Ruby assault the store manager and SHOWED Ruby doing it. I would’ve preferred she just kill him.
Yahima was WASTED!
And they added Bodak Yellow 😬😬😬 BIG YIKES 😭
@@nickjoy6389 Yeah, that was so displaced and awkward.
Yeah we all were confused about Yahima. They dropped the ball there. Lol
Yeah seriously wtf was that?! Specifically when Ruby sexually assaulted the store manager. Not saying that guy was innocent at ALL, but that scene promotes the idea that it's ok to rape someone who's also a rapist. It was also way out of character for her to do that. Yeah, Ruby's tough and she's got issues to work through, but she's not a rapist. I chalked that up to shitty writing
It makes sense to me that people would find Christina more compelling than Monstrose. When Monstrose acts conflicted or abusive, it's framed with dramatic or emotional music and is often treated seriously. When Christina acts conflicted or abusive, the show plays a Rihanna song over it or has her looking glamorous. I don't want to totally blame the framing for how we see the contrast, as audiences come with their own biases, but the framing is definitely culpable.
HUH?
@@serenityq26 what’s confusing?
You know what, my partner at the time did say once that she didn’t understand why Christina would get epic songs when she would come out. [+]
This! It's not just that audiences arbitrarily chose the White Girlboss over Montrose. The framing choices of the scene encouraged the audience to view Christina as a badass bitch doing cool evil magic stuff. It's enjoyable to watch her in the same way it's enjoyable to watch a Disney villain who gets a cool song. I was working hard to root for Montrose but in many ways I felt the show was actively preventing me from doing so.
@@arytheloser Exactly! Christina is absolutely Gaslight/Gatekeep/Girlboss, but the show makes it look empowering whereas Monstrose is only characterized by pain, both his own and what he inflicts on others. Other than that proto-drag ball scene, the show doesn't do much to make us root for him.
I feel like the episodes varied wildly in quality. Like some episodes I really loved and some I was just like "Yikes."
Wholeheartedly agree! It'd be one thing if it was just consistently bad, but there is a good show peaking through the cracks wanting to be free, but just sealed away.
To me the first episode is the best and my favorite.
Same! Kinda thought the first story was going to be a full arc! I was super interested and then it was only a two parter :/
@@kyronlewis6975 it grabbed me SO HARD but the climax of that arc was so rushed and fast. Made me sad, since I thought it was going to be all season long
@@aazhie I honestly didn't mind that too much; I thought it was cool that they got that all done so fast, and that I had no idea where they were going next. And I liked the third episode, and the eighth, and...really, I'm pretty sure I liked parts of all of them, it's just that in some of them (especially four) the "Yikes" exceeded the enjoyment.
Still to this day cannot believe that Tic turned out to be a whole complacent war criminal and the show never reckoned or interrogated that in any meaningful way.
So. Many. Balls. Were. Dropped. 😫😫
anti communism jumped out
WHEW
Being sexually attracted to a woman from the culture he helped terrorize was his redemption. That's an old narrative, a bad one, but one often used to absolve its characters of war crimes.
That said, I have no real problem with it, the reality is that many people do horrible things and never pay for them or even have to confront what they did. I actually appreciate that bit of reality in fiction. That said, the series was meant to have multiple seasons so it may very well get into that, maybe in death he'll "pay" for what he did or whatever.
They used that to make him brave though
"Racist girlboss getting stans for being queer" sounds like a certain senator...
.....who?
@@matthewgreen8843 I believe Krysten Sinema???
@@stvnsvids oh from Arizona, no reason I didn't know her
@@matthewgreen8843 Main reason people know her now is because she voted down to adding in the $15 min wage increase to the recent Covid relief bill and did so with what appeared to be a little curtsy like she was happy to do it. Mind you this is the bill the GOP was gonna vote No on anyways yet she and 7 other Dems decided to be extra awful by not even letting the wage increase get in.
@@ThexDynastxQueen ahhh I see
i think there’s a need to “let Black art be mediocre” that has to apply to both how we critique art and how we consume it. i feel like there’s this unspoken obligation that, whenever something new with a predominately Black cast or main Black character comes out, we ~have< to watch it (at times to our detriment, looking at you Always A Witch) and we ~have~ to like it cause if we don’t The Powers That Be will think that viewers aren’t actually interested in more inclusive media and we will have ruined our chance for more inclusive media moving forward, see y’all in 5-15 years when they let us have something nice again.
it’s restricting on both ends, to have the unattainable standard and to expect/perform unquestioning support and interest. sometimes the shit is just mid and that’s okay
(and sometimes it is deeply troubling messaging and sometimes it’s a hearty sprinkling of both)
Agreed grace is necessary. I do also feel black media has a responsibility to try harder and do better. The black audience and consumer does not want to be misrepresented at all, yet we are everyday by white people and white media. So we definitely expect better from black productions and creators. It’s the one chance to tell our story. We get like like one per year or so. Tell it better. Do better
I 100% agree. I've been all-caps-typing this sentiment in comment sections for a couple years now lol
@@ukkugoodasfidem except part of the plan for us to get more than 1 a year is to allow for the ones you find "mediocre" to exist with the same grace that you give the white led shows. Because this extra criticism that we think is deserved just because they're black is just leeway we are willing to give white people but not ourselves.
That's what I'm worried about. I try to watch shows and movies with casts that aren't just a bunch of white people, because they'll never continue making them if they don't think there's interest. It sucks so bad that a show with a lot of black actors isn't allowed to be mediocre let alone bad.
ALWAYS A WITCH WAS GOOD!
And I feel like ppl act like Hippolyta knew Diana was in danger. She left her with Ruby (who dropped the ball) safe and sound. Just for a week. So I'm not seeing that.
One thing which bothered me about Tic's and Lettie's first sex scene, is that she was obviously hurt, understandably so - because he acted selfishly and recklessly with no concern for her emotional well being, pleasure or arguably even consent. The scene happens really fast and he makes no attempt to really have her give enthusiastic consent, she is always only reacting to him. And after he comes, he's outta there, no concern for returning the favour, or seeing if she is feeling all right.
He acts this way because he is told Lettie had sex with a friend of his in high school. Because he knows she has had sex, because she's not as virginal as he would like, he thinks he can treat her like dirt. And the narrative actually supports his view of things, because it is only when Lettie reveals she was a virgin that he shows any remorse.
If they were going to put that scene in the show, then at least have it be a real conflict, that Tic has to grow out of his toxic possessive view on women to be with Lettie. Not just a "misunderstanding" which ends up promoting the idea that only virginal women should be treated with respect and decency.
YES THANK YOU
@@jobeiden Ironically he didn't have to be told Jiah was virgin and yet she was a sex-fox who had sex murdered 100 men....but there scene was "romantic" uh...the optics of this show I know Mischa Green is brillant from her show about the Underground and I wonder if it was the influence of Jordan Peele. Definitely, the music choices echoed his direction.
This was a relationship in the 1950’s. Exactly what were you expecting?
@@hubbthepoet612 Some meaningful examination of how shitty this particular aspect of the culture is likely part of their expectations. Give it more gravity, no half measures, that sort of thing.
@@chaosvii So you wanted to see examples of society being sexist and unaware? It’s 1955, enough said! Lettie was actually quite liberated for the times.
I’m queer I’m black and I loved the craft country I did not like how incomplete the finale was...
I was so disappointed in the finale
That finale was just extremely underwhelming.....the entire show was pretty good but damn that ending just soured the overall experience for me.
Same. The finale left me hanging but not in a good way??
@@ninagrace-lee8323 For me it was the simple things they could have easily fixed....for me it was Dee having to kill Christina....of all people why her? If am not mistaken she never had an encounter with Christina at all ..so what was her motive for killing her...just cause she's the bad guy? Anybody else would have been right to do that but Dee....that just didn't make sense to me.
@@juniorkaburu8672 why not?
"Racist murder ghost"
Stop Ryan Murphy is salivating rn
This show was an absolute mess and problematic and I can see why people don’t like it but honestly I had so much fun with it, I loved it.
I’m such a huge Horror and Sci Fi junkie that I absolutely loved this movie on a visual and thematic level. The meat of the story got so .....convoluted and problematic.... But I still love it 😭
I agree I enjoyed it but the writers seemed to use the anthological structure of the book to create a messy convoluted story great gowns beautiful gowns but the meat and bones of the story were cauliflower steaks when they promised us Waygu.
@@Social_Pugatory "great gowns beautiful gowns" looool that *is* the perfect summary for me
@@Social_Pugatory YUPPPP HAHDHAHAA
Besides the skin darkening issue. What else was problematic.
Despite Michael K. Williams' incredible acting, I had a billion problems with Montrose's storyline as a gay man of colour; pretty much every queer narrative within the show frustrated me, which was honestly really dissapointing as a fan of eldritch horror. I was so excited to see a take on Lovecraft centering QPoC. The first episode was one of the best pilots I'd ever seen, and while there was some great moments throughout the series, it kind of went downhill after ep 1. Excited to hear your thoughts!
I bounced off the series after episode 2... I felt like the show, for all it's great cast and generally high production value didn't make that great a job at adapting the book: showing the monsters too clearly, in episode 1, and then being a bit too unclear about what was going on in episode 2, as well as the gratuitous death of the uncle... when it's been established that the villains can magically heal people.
I think that if you liked the show, you should probably try the book, which was consistently fun, even though it had a similar problem to the show, namely that it's never quite as tense as that cat and mouse game with the racist sheriff and the county overall.
Yeah. I think episode one was as perfect a first episode you could get. Only the show never lived up to that
I couldn’t understand why Montrose was adapted as gay and a bumbling drunk when source material had him as being this clever character and working on his son’s behalf to find out his lineage.
I had a lot more to say about Montrose but TH-cam keeps deleting my comment so I guess I can't
@@AlphabetSoup123 yeah it was strange, because they tried to kind of pull that in, but too much of Montrose's own research seemed to happen offscreen iirc
One thing I couldn't stop thinking about was the spell in the finale. If it stops white people from using magic then how is who is white determined? Race is a social contract so it left me with questions. Is it based what the person casting the spell things is white or is it "magically" determined? Is a mixed person who passes as white included? How about groups whose status as white is not universally agreed upon? Is it just enough for a person to consider themselves white?
I did enjoy the show though despite it's many flaws.
I was thinking a lot about this, too. Was it just WASPs who were ultimately excluded?
A very simple rule of thumb is melanin. Fucking melanin 🙄
This shit right here!! Folks know who is white now they’re playing dumb
The thing about that extra, it was a god damned black and white photograph too.the extra stated she was chosen based purely on facial structure and resemblance and didn't know they were gonna darken her skin. It's wild.
14:00 - I was willing to believe that the whole thing with the Tulsa Riot scene was an accident... until you later revealed that they intentionally darkened a black lady's skin to make her "blacker". Absolutely disgraceful behavior - why are we STILL unable to just appreciate Blackness in all of its shades? ? ?
Dude that is absolutely mind blowing and gut wrenching. The fuq?!?
Well, the writer is a black supremacist, and as with every race supremacist they have very specific guidelines to say if someone (in this case) is black enough.
@@alanalb1449 black supremacists don't exist. That statement alone is an oxymoron.
@@mrspgrew Yeah. Just like people of color can't be racist.
I was looking for this, and they darkened her skin because she was portraying the younger version of a character who had darker skin than her. But still, that was a terrible thing to do
As a Xicano, Mexican-American, Latino, I always felt that the indigenous character, Yahima, two-spirit, being killed was to highlight the horrific reality. The show always showed that the true horror was real world problems and not the ghosts/vampires/witches.
Again, as a Xicano, I know that in Mexico, indigenous Mexicans are oppressed, and it’s a horrible truth. To me, the show, showed that horrific truth.
Same thing with Letty. I felt like that scene was to highlight Colorism and how again as Misha Green stated about two-spirit, was intended to show how the oppressed can be oppressive.
Letty was hurting Hippolyta. Her privilege of not getting hurt was hurting someone else. It felt intentional to me and not an oversight.
Moreover, I understand and I agree that the show had a lot of stories that didn’t go anywhere, really, but as stated it was ambitious and it felt for me like the goal was to show the true horror story is reality and not ghost/witches/vampires/etc.
I would complain about narrative choices at the start but then stopped once I reached the belief that the goal is to show the horrors of our reality and I think it did a phenomenal job at that. [+]
I agree the entire show felt like it was supposed to make you feel something and the emotion they wanted to make us feel horrified at all of the horrible things that were happening.
YOU GOT IT
I think this how I feel, I mixed but have white skin and I know I will never truly understand the experience of being black in the US but this show made me feel the very real horror
I am starting to understand the idea that so much of black trauma in cinema is just exploitative but here I think set against literal monsters it made me appreciate how there is real horror in the world and humans are just another kind of monster
This character didn't even exist in the book, the show writers put them in. George doesn't die in the book and continues to be a major character throughout the rest of the book! I had to stop watching because it made no sense to make these changes in the show. The book is well done and concise, the show just ruins that.
@@paulai5812 they are two different media and to an extent it is literally the alternate reality of the book. The book is a key part of the story.
It boggles my mind that there are people that found Christina more engaging and sympathetic Montrose.
It doesn’t for me. I don’t agree at all, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the people who found Christina more sympathetic and engaging than Montrose are White, Women, Lesbians, or a combination of the the combination of the 3. Tribalism is real. [+]
Listen, the amount of white people I saw after that show make excuses for Christina??? "Oh as a woman in that time she had to" "Its not really her its her brother" And even when the show did try to paint her as objectively bad, they fell into every fragile white femininity trap. Like the best black female character falling for her even AFTER she finds out shes a murderer and a shapeshifter. What??? It makes no sense
Christina was interesting to me. An interesting way kind of gesture at how non inclusive feminism can kind of work against progress by making herself equal she makes herself just as good at subjugating people she views as lesser. I think making christina sympathetic is a problem her male counterpart doesn't suffer from.
But I didn't like the book either....
I didn’t like Montrose in the show because they took out a lot of the complexity he had in the novel. They just rushed a lot of things with him.
Saaaame. Man Montrose went some places. I was kind of disappointed he was willing to kill someone just to “protect his family from information” though.
I will never forgive them for what they did to Yahima, I stopped watching for a month but with that said we need to stop with this all or nothing attitude about everything. Things can be good and problematic. This was an amazing show that also has a lot of problems that should be criticized without canceling the show. If your someone who is so quick to jump on hate bandwagon you need to think about why.
She's not even in the book 😂 you're mad that they killed a character with less than 5 minutes of screen time?
@@kelvinb16 I think that's the point. The creators went out of their way to create and add a nonbinary character of color, gave her hardly any screen time, and then promptly murdered her.
@@breannap8585 she should never had been in the show to begin with
@Dark Roast ☕️ 100%.
Honestly, I kept watching for Letitia Lewis and Hippolyta.
I really really wanted to love this show. It’s a shame it never could live up to that first episode, which was so, so good. It was enjoyable but extremely frustrating.
I also wanted to love this show. I didn't like the ending at all. The lasts three episodes were so lackluster. I enjoy some of it, but I feel like they should have done more and better.
You spelled "Letitia Fuckn Lewis" wrong lol
No montrose? Non of the guys?
@@midnightgod123 we don't need to watch it for any of the men. Dont tell women what to like/do. We are kinda, just a little, teeny bit fucking tired of that.
@@gabbyb9418 i dirnt say u had to. I was just wondering if they werent good characters. I havent seen it. Yet. Im sorry i caused offense
I thought I was the only person who didn’t really like the show. I honestly dislike Leti, and I was uninterested in Leti and Tic’s relationship. They had poor communication with one another and were constantly disagreeing. I couldn’t see how they were an actual couple without being toxic to one another. Also, Ruby deserved so much more than how Leti treated her. Yet, Ruby died while trying to help her sister out. I could not root for the protagonists of the show.
Never having read the book I figured based on there scenes together early on there was going to be no romance. And when it did happen I just did not see a connection between the two romantically. Just seem forced. I wanted to like this show but just felt disjointed from one episode to the next. Like Leti just up and buying a house!? WHen that episode started I thought it was a dream or something.
same on disliking leti, i hated the colourist aspect of her just being an absolute disaster all over the place at the expense of darker-skinned women around her and that just being okay in the show’s world. left an awful taste in my mouth.
This took place in the 50’s, of course they had a toxic relationship
@@hubbthepoet612 what type of bullshit excuse is this. It is NO 50s right now, if they want to display toxic relationship OKAY but if they want to push a toxic relationship as ideal to TODAYS audiences we can criticize and dislike it!
@@mimilocke5650 What do you
mean? You do understand that the show is supposed to reflect the times right? Most relationships were toxic back then. Hell, the same is true for today except we're more aware. Do you really think they were "Woke" in the 50's? Long story short, the characters and their relationship work given the time this all takes place.
I’m just tired of black fantasy being tied to slavery and oppression and that being the only avenue black people are able to experience themselves and their stories. I just need something else. Give me 30 more into the spider verse please
honestly true!! but I kind of liked how LCC portrayed the enslaved ancestors as helpers of the present generation, instead of the hopeless character type at least they got to be considered the hero’s.
I think it's important now more than ever for these stories to be told. They are trying to erase history. When young people see these movies they start to research and learn the truth of what happened. Just my opinion
Hahaha!
How about how Montrose admits to being Dyslexic in one scene, and that feature of his character is never addressed again? I am Dyslexic, I was illiterate through much of my childhood, and required years of tutoring to learn how to read. I really wish the show addressed what a struggle this would have been for Montrose, especially when we understand what an important feature literacy is in his family, and that maybe that struggle with reading made literacy all the more important to him. The handwaving way the show brought it up makes me wish the show runners just left it out. I understand they wanted to address a lot of intersectional issues through Montrose's character, but I feel let down that they did not invest the storytime to deal with all the issues presented.
In the book, the revelation is an offhand comment from George during a conversation shortly after Tic's arrival in town. It's supposed to be the two of them talking about the past, with George acknowledging Montrose wasn't the best but showing Tic that doesn't know his side of the story. (also fairly certain it's foreshadowing as well? I haven't finished the book) Anyway, it comes across completely differently. After starting to read the book, I'm realizing they changed A LOT just by shuffling it around, which changes a lot of little nuances like this.
This! People don't realize the everyday crippling effects and struggle of being illiterate and take reading for granted as a given, being illiterate is not some throwaway character trait to be overlooked, it's a crippling dissavantage that effects everything in that person's life and gives them this eternal shame of not knowing how to do a basic task not having the written instructions and always second guessing and too ashamed to ask for help, it's does a huge disservice to portray it as a simple quirk.
@@AmandaDuncil I read the book the year after it came out, I had forgotten that part for some reason. Thank you for reminding me
They were fighting vampire dogs, racism and witches trying to kill his son. How much attention should be given to the fact that sometimes he mixes shit up when he reads?
At least in Preacher it’s never said Cassidy is dyslexic but it’s clear mostly because his actor has dyslexia so like when the group are researching an enemy in a library Cassidy doesn’t choose a book because he would have difficulties properly reading it.
there was literally no freaking reason to put that light skinned extra in blackface for a BACKGROUND PHOTO, like not even important at all! this show was super traumatizing for me, it made me uncomfortable a lot of the time & now that we know a lot of the most problematic scenes & choices weren't even in the book, i'm super confused about what they were tryna do with this show. it's so disappointing because we were all super interested & excited for this show.
So apparently I've been reading literally every thing about this show wrong, because hand to god I thought it was called Lovecraft County the *entire* time
How did you read “literally every thing about this show wrong?” I am curious. I’d love to hear your POV/interpretation. [+]
It is.what do you mean?
County vs. Country. I've made the same mistake with this show all the time lol
Montrose?
As soon as the show skipped to the "monster of the week" format everything fell apart so fast.
Which is such a shame because the cast and the visuals are so very good.
You know it's crazy because if they had just stuck to a Lovecraftian existential horror format I think it would've have been so much more interesting.
Spot on. I was hoping it was going to be the black stranger things
Right but nope. Hpl was racist literally 100 years ago now. We gotta turn the narrative on the head and make it woke!!! I know the book is kind of like this but damn they took it way to far with the show. It ends up being racist against white people in the end lol. So "woke its antiracist" lol.
@@skyrinx3270 "racism against white people" lol
@@alexscriabin common, black culture is racist towards whites, latinos and asians.
I am a cis Afro-Boriquén woman and Yahima's death bothered me a _LOOOOOOT_ . Glad I wasn't just imagining how wrong that was. >.
but why?
So we can’t show natives dying now 🤨?
the problem is that they finally showed an indigenous nb person n then immediately killed them off. it’s a rlly big issue in shows that r pretending to be woke
@@creolito9600 almost all native rep is them dying
It’s like a cult with its own creepy dogmas and everything.
Oh great! I’m allowed not to like it. 😅
Haha same. I wasn't 100% sure if the show was bad or if I might be biased against black narratives or something 😬. But I think they made some objectively bad decisions with the storytelling. I was so hyped during the first episode or two, but it seemed to go downhill from there. It wasn't terrible, but it felt messy to me.
Oh, your channel looks cool
See, I agree with the stance that that is garbage - but that isn't a critique of the show, but a critique of the people who watched it.
So many terrible needledrops...
As someone who liked but did not love the book, I thought there was potentially a lot of ways the series could improve on it, but almost all of Green’s changes to me were iffy. As a sign of how muddled I found the writing, Ji-ah is by far the most successful adaptational addition if you’re looking just at her spotlight episode, but in the context of the whole series, why is she there? Nothing she does in the remainder really makes a case for the character being necessary to spend so much time on.
Structurally it’s got a bunch of weird problems. Like, the final moments of Christina are her begging Dee for help, and it’s treated like this is a significant character thing for both, but those two had never interacted before.
why not? It's an adaptation, not a translation. The nine-tailed fox is a very interesting folklore, and the internal perspective of that “succubus” is even more interesting, imho.
You’re right her solo episode is well done, but her presence in the overall story was tragic. They basically had the poor girl travel to Chicago just to be insulted, manipulated , and used as a deus ex machina at the very end. This is not what I was promised at the beginning of the series when she first appeared in Tic’s dream.
I was so excited that we were finally getting some indigenous American representation on a big show..... they lasted half an hour. I checked out.
If that's the only reason you were watching the show, you were there for the wrong reasons.
You have a lazy brain more than likely..half hour lol
@@jacobdavio9722how could that have possibly been the reason they watched the show when there was not an Indigenous character prior to Yahiba?
Your gatekeeping is honestly funny in how little you thought about your response.
The 12-year old girl snapping the neck of a woman crushed under a rock as she's begging for her life in the finale was...not entertaining
I hated that so much.
It made sense for her to. Whether it was entertaining or not. She lost friends and family to racism/white supremacy
While Christina is not outright prejudiced, she wields her power like white men in power.
She was an enemy. Whether she helped at times or not
The 12 year old had almost died at the hands of a white male officer who mirrored Christina and her magic.
The 12 year old shows the future. The black outrage bubbling. The start of rebellion rather than assimilation
It makes sense when you really sit back and allow it to hit you
@@transgoddess31 Especially, when you realize that historically the 12 year old’s generation developed into the Black Panther/Black Power era. Therefore, it further proves your analysis of the ending.
Honestly that's the only part of the ending I liked because Christina deserved it lol
a black girl having the wisdom and power to kill a white supremacist who who tortured/murdered her family was good, actually.
I was on board with the first two episodes and it went down steadily. There are things in each episode that I liked but overall the series could’ve been more polished.
I keep thinking about this show from the perspective of “not all Black people are a monolith” which I think many of us know and understand. I feel like the show does it’s best to present everyone of the main cast as the hero and the villain. In every main cast character, they do something amazingly heroic and then we get the reveal that they have a monstrous side. Maybe they wanted us to question our hero’s, if that wasn’t the intention, it’s something that comes naturally as the story progresses.
Tic- fights monsters, but was a horrible war criminal
Leti- loves the black community, doesn’t recognize her privilege and ignores the plight of her darker skinned sister
Montrose -fighting to get birthright for his family, (huge list of issues)
Ruby-starts off as sort of self hating and a has a “bootstrap” mentality, by the end is grandly defensive of sister and Black women (which is good)
Hippolyta- idk maybe she’s selfish or something (I’d have to rewatch) and leaves her daughter alone, becomes cosmically aware and builds daughter a new cool arm
Diana- I think with everything she’s been thru, she’s valid in most of her choices, like killing Christina. But she literally killed someone, idk if that makes her bad (given who Christina is, I think it’s ok) but I’m sure that’s had a big effect on her psyche
And the list continues.
When I write, my golden rule is “the audience doesn’t need to like the characters, they need to understand them.”
I made it up to Ji-Ah’s episode, but her hypersexualization and the way she felt like an accessory to Tic’s narrative completely turned me off (which sucks because the acting in that episode was phenomenal!!)
How else was she going to lure men into her trap? She tried to make genuine connections during speed dating, but it didn't work.
She was a kumiho. Literally a Korean spirit that takes the form of a 9 tailed fox or a beautiful woman. It’s purpose is to seduce men in order to cannibalize them in some form.
Netflix’s Love, Death and Robots had an episode with a kumiho, showing her in fox and female form and she is hunted for it by the male characters. Sometimes all you gotta do is look up the cultural meaning behind, then form your opinion, not the other way around.
Plus in the show, I remember Ji-Ah’s “mother” summoning her and that was the price to be paid for being summoned, she literally had to seduce and kill 100 men.
Correction: In the Netflix series Love, Death and Robots the creature was not a kumiho which is Korean. She was a Huli Jing which is the Chinese fox tail spirit. In the series she is hunted by a father and son because she preys on men. The son however falls in love with her. It’s worth a watch!
Hyper sexualization? She was a damn succubus!
She was literally ah Sex demon wtf is wrong with yall
Omg yes to everything you said! I think people really grabbed onto Lovecraft Country and started shouting "representation!!" because it's one of a few mainstream shows that display Black people in the sci-fi genre...but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to the blatant problems the show has
Yeah, kinda like cold french fries: you'll eat them if that's all that's there, but you kinda wish they were better.
Petition to change Lovecraft Country’s title to It Really Do Be Your Own People
I really liked how LCC did more justice to East Asian culture, in one episode, than Mulan live action did.
Also basically everyone of the main cast is shown to be pretty chill with parents physically abusing the fuck out of their kids.
Montrose doesn’t apologize for how he abused Tic his whole life, and is then rewarded with raising Tic’s kid at the end. That kid is going to get the shit kicked out of him by his drunk ass grandad! And everyone else is just fucking cool with it! The hell?!?! XD
You have to understand, this was set in the late 1950s-early 1960s. A lot of families came from the “spare the rod, spoil the child” mindset. It was very common to hit a kid with your hands, a belt, or a switch. My parents grew up with that thinking. It hasn’t been in maybe the last 30 years or so that people began to be more critical of hitting children for discipline. Just a reminder that we may not always know better at any given time. We just know what we know and do our best.
@@selalewis9189 Of course it's a different time period from where we are now. None of that is in question.
But it does put the characters who just stand by and let it happen, in a more negative light. And the show seems to be okay with that since Montrose is given permission to help raise his grandson, when he has very clearly shown that he will abuse the shit out of that kid with little remorse like he did his own kid. Just sucks cause he's a terrible person whose gonna fuck up another kid. :/
@@MRDLT00 I disagree. Tic's whole last speech to Montrose is "Do Better this time'' and while I think it's naïve of Tic's character (and perhaps the whole show) to kind of just assume that an abuser just stops being abusive because they want to, the show never condoned the child abuse that happened. Tic often talks about how that abuse wrecked him, the show frames the abuse as the reason Tic and Montrose's relationship was basically destroyed and Montrose never apologizing is part of the reason why Tic never forgives him and their relationship never recovers till the end. Montrose is also shown as having serious PTSD from the beatings his father gave him that he still hasn't recovered from even as an adult. The show could be accused of a lot of things but condoning child abuse is not one of them. Could it have been improved? Sure. Personally as someone who grew up w an abusive father who grew up w his own trauma under his own abusive father, I thought it was a pretty realistic story about how the cycle of abuse repeats within families, how it can destroy them and how complex loving/yearning for the love of an abusive parent can be.
@@selalewis9189 that's an excuse, not a reason. we live in the 21st century, not the 20th century. Lovecraft Country is fiction; the people who watch it and become more abusive or more abusable are nonfiction.
Ninja chill its just a whooping..focus on the oppressors shooting blacks on a whim.
The show was messy and convoluted. Everything was rushed and not digestible. I really, really, *really* wanted to love this show but it made no sense. It was trying to be mysterious and give you bits at a time to keep you engaged (as it should) but it was so, so poorly executed. Death happens too early as well! I had no attachment to anyone. I saw clips of the "powers" here on youtube and was excited. Once again, I really wish that I had liked this show. It had all the good elements...there was just too much too soon.
What hurt me the most about this show was Lettie being the popular girl with the perfect body who got everything she wanted and the main chick and she was so light compared to everyone else. Her sister was darker skinned and thick and was treated like an afterthought for the most part. The sister was the far better actor and I feel would have made such a better lead. But nah, because they want the light skinned skinny girl, it made me feel like that's all i'm ever gonna be, a supporting character because I don't look like Lettie. It's sad and messed up, I expected more but I don't know why I did.
Letties sister was not a better actress. They were definitely both equal
I disagree. Both sisters had very central roles. Also I think they portrayed the skin tone and body type intentionally. I think they focused on the the characters, that way, to point out the flaw that you're speaking of. I think it was intentional. As it's portrayed in the media is drawn from how it really is, even today.
@Dark Roast ☕️ Yes you're right, when it comes to representation, I would love to see more Rubys out there.
Cope.
what?? Better actress than jurnee?? The lies. Jurnee is a great actress and killed this role.
And that wasn't yt ppl's magic. Unless you consider the Adam and Eve to be yt. The yt ppl needed Yahima and her ppl to understand it. Of course, they tried to act like it was their magic. That's how they do though.
Sorry, I'm just processing all your points.
I _really_ wanted to like Lovecraft Country. It was very clunky (especially after the first two episodes)and fails to explore the vicious topics it touches - but I wanted to support as mainstream Black horror/fantasy is hard to come by. Ruby and Hippolyta could have had their own mini-series and watching them get traumatized repeated was _a lot_ to put it politely.
I didn't make it past episode 3, basically because the show seemed to change its mind 3 separate times on what it planned to be.
Initially it seemed to be an original story, a mystery about a family who would have ties to Lovecraft and magic and i was game. Then it seemed to pivot to this sort of "Lovecraftian Horror monster of the week" with a black perspective spin and i was down for that. Then it seemingly tried to say it was doing both and episode 4 was enough of a slog I didn't get through it, which sucks cause I really wanted to be into this show.
I appreciate your review of Lovecraft Country. I found your thoughts to be poignant and grounded and I can see myself agreeing with your criticisms of the show. Lastly, I appreciate the ambition of Misha Green and hope they do improve their writing/skills going forward in their career as there needs to be more Black creators telling black stories, good bad or indifferent.
I didn't care for Christina AT ALL and I was super disappointed by Ruby's storyline. I agree with everything else you said and I'm glad the show was made, no matter it's flaws
I was hoping like …. The blonde girl would start loving the black lead….bc u know Hollywood hates when black guys date white woman
@@Ghostleeee I was hoping for good love story of them too, aren't too many lesbian/non-conforming love story. And she was killed off camera. So either it's one those she isn't really dead thing bc she killed off camera or she wasn't giving a proper farewell.
Letting a magic spell decide who *really counts* as a POC and who doesn't? What could possibly go wrong...
"What?? A TS character in a mainstream show?? Awesome!"
2 minutes later: "I am absolutely unsurprised and my day is irreversibly ruined."
@Sterling Archer pretend? naw ill watch TS madison experience and not pretend or pretend ill get a 1m buy manifesting or hoping racism goes away? I dont mean to go in on you but? its felt trivializing to see pretend?
@Sterling Archer Every character should be trans. And any transphobes in the audience can just pretend they're cis.
@@alexscriabin I’m more into transracials myself.
Yahima is intersex. Also interphobic.
You people are very weird.
I actually said “yes! Yes!” out loud several times while watching this video (as my pets looked at me with concern). Stupendous video about a show that I crazy loved up until they killed off Yahima and gave up completely after the next episode where everyone was like, “oh well, I guess I’ll just have some sex to comfort myself!”
Did anyone else find the full frontal of a intersex, First Nations person who was then immediately killed off really unnecessary? So much about that Episode I couldn’t put my finger on until this eloquent video.
Edit: I absolutely don’t mean to imply that there is anything other than joy and power in the body of a intersex or gender nonconforming person, but that as up until that point, the show had not portrayed detailed genitalia of any character, it felt almost exploitative after realizing this character was given no agency or character arc.
I had this major problem with LC that happens a lot with some series, the supporting caracters are just there to push forward the plot line of the main caracters,and sometimes the supporters are more likable and interesting than the main caracteres, and letti's sisters was the truly badass, I love the show as a whole ensemble, but if the stories were kinda like an anthology with which episode being a new plot line in a different year or decade tackling on African American struggles during various yeas would be more successful because they tried to much that felt like almost an anthology
God I WANTED to like this show, but it was just such an unpleasant experience.
With the way the “girlbosses” of social media completely missed how Christina was a callout for them specifically, really looking forward to hearing about how skinning puppies is “woke, actually,” when Cruella comes out.
Anyway great video. Hopefully this show can at least be a lesson for better productions down the line.
I'm glad you brought up the colorism. Something felt off for me from the first episode with how they treated Ruby in contrast to Letti but no one else seemed to be talking about it at the time. I was also bothered by what happened to Yahima, especially the fact that they were never brought up again.
ikr. when I saw the pilot, I was like "there's so much subtext between the dark-skinned Ruby and light-skinned Lett, can't wait till it becomes 'text'"; when I rewatched it after watching the show, I was like "oh, there wasn't any subtext, they just weren't gonna ever talk about colorism". lol
it was in jim crow times. that's how it was then. they can't rewrite history for you.
The colorism was subtle but very aware it was happening. This is just dark skin women picking petty stuff to be mad at. The show is literally made by a dark skin black woman it didn't need to be deeply discussed because it was evident, especially with ruby's issues being black and ruby briefly mentions their differences and how they are treated differently early on. Letty being light skin and disconnected from her roots was part of her journey that no matter her skin she is a black woman. Geez ladies look deeper not everything needs to be discussed you're supposed to look for the deeper meanings yourselves.
@@lamarbaker349 Misha Green is not a dark skin Black woman at all.
@@Nada07able she damn sure ain't light skin I'm sorry how dark do u have to be to be considered dark skin🙄
SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!
I too gave up on the show after the weird tomb raider/indiana jones episode. I was so excited by the native character that was introduced and then I literally threw my laptop after they were killed.
That was the last thing I watched too. Man. I couldn't give the show any more of my bandwidth after that.
u don't sound like u were invested in the show
@@danec2572 Don't condescend.
@@alexscriabin how am i being condescending.
@@alexscriabin that wasn't condescending he was just making an observation
Reading through some of the comments, It feels like a majority of people didn’t care for the show because:
A.) The show would trigger traumas. Very valid and was a concern for me early on.
B.) Didn’t like how the show attempted to demonstrate how oppressed people can oppress others. I will agree that they didn’t do the best job at that.
C.) Were upset at potential subplots that ended fairly abruptly. Which is something I didn’t care for either, but accepted because it’s not the first nor will it be the last show to do this.
Or
A mixture of the 3 things. [+]
It wasn't very lovecraftian. Not one person driven mad by secrets of the old ones. Or some eldricht horror lurking through town whose very prescence distorts reality. Or how the townsfolk racist prejudice quite literally turns them into monsters as a result of them taking advantage of alien flesh, blood, or whatever that bestows them wealth and power and at the expense of their humanity.
@@sorzin2289 TRUE! lovecraftian in name only
@@sorzin2289 I think the eldritch horror lurking everywhere was racism. I think the show was pretty explicit in that regard
@@sorzin2289 "the eldritch horror whose lurking presents distorts" is the racism, obviously.
To me Christina is everything wrong with white feminism. She is a full whole body representation of white women only caring about what oppression impacts their whiteness and their privilege and no one else. How anybody could see her as more sympathetic than any other character blows my mind
That was the whole point of her character.
@@TT-xz5sy Well I do understand that, and my response was after hearing that more people found her character sympathetic than Montros, which blew my fucking mind! There’s nothing positive or redeeming about Christina’s character, and just knowing how she is a pure representation of everything wrong with white feminism, just highlighted the true state of how white women are prioritized over all black trauma.
HBO has a bad habit of doing too much with no overall message.
This is so true!
When I was deciding if I wanted to spend money on this, I checked reviews, and my first thought was 'so one serious topic wasn't enough for you?'
It's like they made a pizza but decided it didn't have enough toppings, so they added more, and now if you try to eat it you can't enjoy the original toppings because of all the extra.
@@elle8786 right. It’s a mess. Love craft started out as a pizza but the directors covered it in sunflower seeds. You can eat it? But are you enjoying it or is it just weird?
What was doing to much white people being racist and doing racist shit like i dont get it?
@@ssplif5415 the show was throwing magic and monsters and indigenous trans people etc But what was the point? What was the message
Montrose scenes make me cry like a baby
I like what it tried to do, but it felt oddly like an anthology and long form story. I really wish they picked a consistent story. I loved seeing black people front and center but I felt like the storyline was doing too much but also felt extremely disjointed. The first episode was amazing. And it’s down from there.
LC was like the reverse of a solid anime. The filler episodes were the best part but the overall story arc was shoddy at best.
Lovecraft Country was... confusing. There were parts of it I really enjoyed, but many parts I just didn't know how to feel about. There was a lot of graphic violence and I often couldn't tell if it was supposed to be horrific or celebratory, & some of what was supposed to be horrific just felt voyeuristic. by the finale I didn't even know what was going on with the plot much less how to feel about it. and yeah, killing Yahima suuuuuuucked.
"Leti takes a nice breezy stroll" YESSSS OMG I WAS YELLING
[CW: Discussion of sexual assault]
The Lovecraft Country show was actually a required text for one of my classes, and it introduced a lot of interesting discussions. There are so many aspects which I found compelling and so many others which I found troubling. The episode "I Am" shows Hippolyta as an empowered figure of black liberation, inhabiting all of these historical and fantastical personages. But, also, Ruby decides that anally raping a sexual harasser is "justice."
I liked Lovecraft Country, but it's ABSOLUTELY not perfect. I think that's what made it interesting to me, that it is a combination of excellent and deeply troubling ideas.
I feel seen. 🙌🏿
Overall I enjoyed what the show was trying to do but I’m glad we can all be honest about it’s shortcomings.
I couldn't understand why Montrose had such a strong aversion to magic when he knew magic was the only defense against their magical enemies. All his actions to "protect" his family really annoyed me.
I read the book, and did not finish the show. LCC was just too much, and while it probably didn't help that I tried to marathon it on a gloomy Saturday, thinking I was prepared because I made it through the book, I've come to the realization that I just don't really enjoy consuming trauma, and I especially don't enjoy consuming Black trauma writ large in graphic detail for mixed company, as part of my free time. Thank you for doing this overview, because now that the days are longer, I was contemplating circling back to the series, and now I feel like I don't have to.
There wasnt enough hippolyta discourse
You made the exact Doctor Who reference I was waiting for, and I thank you for the satisfaction I got out of it.
I haven't even seen the show, I just like listening to you talk about things.
I was kinda confused mid way through with the plot and everything, plus what was exactly everyone’s goal like it just seem that stuff was happening but didn’t feel like it was building to anywhere
I don't care what it sounds like: I'm not watching any modern-day black media that has a LSBW or biracial woman as the lead with a DSBM. Because the creators can never be trusted. I'm tired of people who look like me being the character to be dumped on, villainized, or whatever stereotype while the LS/biracial gets the white female protagonist treatment. So, I never saw this and never will.
I think the show should be handled better and remade. Let everything play out more smoothly. :)
No one wants to see Hp Lovecraft adapted into film
I thought this was a beautiful show. But there were a few things they didn’t handle well.
Loved the first episode, then came the second and i was like "Oh, it's gonna be that kind of show." The tension from the first episode was immediately gone, they introduced some unoriginal magic tropes that we've seen a million times before, the whole ardham lodge sequence felt like a low budget cw show and as you've said it suddenly changed to anthology series unlike what was implied, and that felt more like a "yeah we're doing this now, got ya!" than a believable progression in the writing. Even though I had big problems with the writing i still watched the whole show and felt kinda "meh" at the end. It didn't help that the only likable characters were Hippolyta and George and he died before the show even got started, i'd sum it up to; interesting ideas, badly executed.
As I watched Love Craft Country I kept feeling like Nicole Behari would have made a great Letty.
You touch on so many valid points! And for all it’s faults, I loved that they did try something so ambitious and im also hoping Green takes the criticism and improves.
Also can we talk about how phenomenal the costume design was? I’m still wondering how they got Atticus’s shirts to fit like skin!
Wow I didn't know people were simping for white supremacist. I'm not sure is I was being extreme, but was I was very triggered by the romance/interactions with Ruby and the white supremacist.
Got the impression HBO was like ... make it more like TrueBlood. But there's only one book so they're going to have to add original material. It could have been a period version of the X-Files with the core cast that kept George and Ruby. Great cast, great production design and music.
I was one of the people who couldn't wait for this show to premiere and by finale, I couldn't wait for it to be over. The writing wasn't where it needed to be. Each episode felt like an extremely heavy-handed history lesson that was catering the white gaze and the violence was gratuitous. I think Misha is so talented and I can't wait for what she does next, but this show had a lot going on and frustrated (and confused) me every week.
And of course Christina is viewed more sympathetically than Montrose because this show was made by and caters for nu blacks who beneath their performative blackness are failing the doll test hard. It's the same thing they did in that recent Harriet Tubman movie. They cast the white slaveowner son like a romance novel love interest and created a hulking irredeemable brute black character as a slavecatcher.
they fooled us with the pilot lmaoooooo
The show lost me when Leti bled following her first time. It's an ancient and incorrect marker of 'virginity'.
How was she a virgin if she fucked the dude who said he had a third leg . She just didn’t know her monthly was on .
Interesting points.
I loved Lovecraft and believe it was well done. Comparing Watchman (which is my absolute fav) to this feels a bit unfair. Yes, they are both black-centered shows but the genre alone is so different it puts LC at a clear disadvantage. I often avoid "black" movies because of the heavy trauma and storylines based on police brutality; it's just too much to handle. And precisely for that reason ( that it's horrific) and unfortunately for us, a horror with black characters was just going to be heavy on trauma. Just having a ghost isn't enough, there has to be some layering, and often times it is tied to our traumas. But as a black viewer, it wasn't just meaningless trauma for the sake of it. It was creatively done and led to some sort of character growth. Ji-Ah's story was interesting, different, and for a show that focused on a different person in each episode, it was appropriate and still had relevance to the main plot.
I strongly agree with your points on the story line of the two-spirited character, (they missed out on an excellent character to expand on and the violence was insensitive), Colorism( I ignored it to find my peace lol), and the sex scene (sigh, no)
I have to disagree. I thought it was excellent . The History of Violence episode gave me life!!! Tic as a a Black Indiana Jones ...more please. And what you call problematic depictions of indigenous people I call the point. Beings that are "different" are exploited and discarded. Montrose killing them was just a window in to his trauma and desperation. I think Letty was one of the best female heroes I have seen in awhile. again more please. The ending was the perfect lead up for the 2nd season. I see a time jump into the late 60's when white people have to learn to possess people of color to wield magic. I thought the writing was superb.
I loved it too, it highlights a lot and taught me black history I didn’t know.
FINALLY !! Someone gets it. I think this was a wack review, to comfort the white viewers.
I agree. This show was a breathe of fresh air. Nothing is perfect. But I respect everything about it and those who creatively did their thing as BLACK PEOPLE to entertain and teach.
I'm so glad you made this video because while all these things bothered (and in some cases infuriated) me, overtime I started to forget these issues because I generally liked the show. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, I guess.
I remember on Twitter everyone was talking about how badass Letty was walking with that book but why the HELL did she not help that ancestor not BURN ALIVE. I don't care how resolute you are, that is not the way to die by choice. It's a horrible death as anyone with a connection to that kind of tragedy can tell you. I hate how Hollywood often romanticizes (idk if that's the right word) it. Meanwhile I thought Hippolyta was gonna die too so that whole scene I was pissed.
I also hated Ruby raping that man with a shoe. It made no sense to me characterisation-wise and made Ruby irredeemable to me unless I blurred it out as bad writing.
The first couple episodes absolutely had me, but then it just seemed to loose its way. I really loved they tried to address some issues that are seldom touched in American media, and honestly any attempt to address these issues is progress in some form, but of course they could have been handled better overall. I just hate it seemed to loose much of the momentum it had at the start of the series. Overall I did really enjoy the series. I purposefully waited to read the series until the show wrapped up, so hopefully I'll enjoy it at least as much as soon as I have time to start on it.
Speaking on Montros’ and Tick’s relationship; I had an issue with how they developed the possibility that they would deal with anger issues within BIPOC families. How that is inherited and passed on and how it can be handled to over come that yoke on the younger generation’s shoulders.
Aaaand then they just dropped it. The writing definitely set up a lot of threads and had no real clue how to wrap it all up. As a brown someone with Anger Issues, that story beat meant a lot and it was such a let down to see them fumble.
You explained everything perfectly. One of the things that pissed me off is that they kept bringing up necromancy in some of the beginning episodes and they never explored that type of magic in the world. They really just brought up cool story routes just for them to never explore it. What a tease
I’m so glad someone is saying it. The adaptation made the Black characters appear weak and dim witted opposed to the book where they were centered in the narrative and clever about outsmarting racist.
The show added elements, like cheating, white women crying about being excluded, and emasculating Black men, to move the plot along when those topics, while socially relevant, were not apart of original story’s actual narrative. This shifted the entire focus of the show.
Wait. who was being emasculated ?
@@alexn.2901 Monroe's character in the text was a smart, logical thinker who was saddened by his wife's death and estranged from his son. However, in the show, they show him as a sniveling mess that's traumatized and self-sabatoging the group while also being threatened by his brother and questioning his sexually.
To boot, the episode where they have Tick going and having sex with Lettie (?) while the White people watched when they were all hallucinating was weird and a means of treating the character like a prop for no reason.
It really bothered me that once again, we see the extremely fair skinned, straight up skinny black woman get some type of actual affection and romance, but her bigger sister with a richer complexion is only given false hope. I really really didn't like that. It's so common nowadays in mainstream media. Black love should be shown as so much more. It already feels like the reality for so many young black women that the lightest black woman is always romantically involved, while the darker women are shunned. Even in a fantasy show the fat black woman is shown little to no love. I still love Jurnee's and Wunmi's performance, they are amazing actresses :)
She’s mixed . Mixed in real life to. She’s not black .
The first episode was pretty good. Jurnee killed the 3rd episode ...
Montrose was the best character.
Colorism ...? I hadn't heard about the skin darkening. That scene where Leti slow walks through a massacre is visually nice interesting but makes no sense narratively. I can't be made that she got a protection spell but it didn't protect her from trauma/abuse. Tic's relationship with Leti was doo-doo. She was being treated badly by our hero. At least Ruby got to have sex in a bed sometimes Leti was never shown to. When Tic was shown as being tender physically to a romantic partner it was with Ji-Ah, pretty much exclusively.
And did anyone else thing accent was distracting? I don't know what they were trying to say with Ruby's character but they dropped the ball. Wummi is beautiful and I feel like I've only seen her in Black Mirror (besides this) but her performance was off to me. And them never mentioning that they had different daddies and Leti being able to move different was because her proximity to "whiteness" was closer than Ruby's. And the horrible writing development between them as sisters ... lacking.
I mean the writer's room needs improvement, to say the least.
Where it started to fall apart for me personally was Ji-Ah's story. There was a whole chunk of episodes where the plot did not advance. SO by the time we got to that last two episodes ... everything was rushed. smh. So the pacing wasn't good and the writing needs to be tighter. But HBO will give you an aesthetic and LCC did not slip on that.
R u sure leti was mixed or just light skin
For whatever reason movies and TV have never really managed to nail the feel of Lovecraft stories, the only thing I can think of that nails the feel is Bloodborne, and thats a japanese game lmao.
Since I didn't hear you mention it, what did you think about the companion podcast to the show?
Yeah I remember hate watching this after being really confused about where the story was going (I think around ep 3🤔). It's is really sad because this show had a lot of potential
So excited to hear your opinions. While I loved the special effects and creature feature aspect, I did think the story was lacking strong cohesion to bring it home from start to end.
I really agree about Yahima, I was so excited when she was introduced and it was a blink and you miss it, bam she’s gone. For whatever reason that really hurt.
Ugh and I did not like Tic. Their first time sleeping together was purely about him and him dominating something, taking something as opposed to being walked over. 🙄🙄 who cares Tic?? Leave her alone.
If it just violence and not horror that bothers you you can look up the pickaniny dance scene. The most graphic thing that happens is someone getting grab/scratched.
Someone I follow on Twitter retweeted your announcement that you were working on this video and I purposefully subscribed to you so I wouldn't miss it. As a filmmaker I'm so so so grateful you made this breakdown. I had to stop watching LC halfway through for every reason you listed
I think one of the the people they did the dirtiest was the priestess that protected their house! Like she should have been the one that led them to the family magic IMO.
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! I literally thought I was going crazy, everyone kept praising it and I was just like....um....
IMHO, had they just kept to the book, the series may have kept my attention. Too heavy emphasis on violence, and they show too much. Half the appeal of Lovecraft is that he postponed the reveal of the monstrosity for dramatic effect. When you show shoggoths in the first episode....you're doing it wrong. IMHO.
Right? In the book they never get a real look at the creature and it's left ambiguous.
I live for your channel honestly, thanks for doing what you do!
So glad to see this video with you discussing these points on the show. It seemed like hardly anyone was talking about Lovecraft Country after it finished, let alone all of it’s problematic parts. :/
We LOVE a hot take whew. Thank you for saving my week