"BIG LICK" Tennessee Walking Horses (4 Year Old Mares/Geldings) at Humboldt, TN - May 6, 2022
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- No other equine breed in America starts 17-18 month old “BABY HORSES” under saddle, AND then rides them with large STACK SHOES with CHAINS which HIT often SORED sensitive skin above their front hooves to see if the “BABIES” will perform the “Big Lick” gait. The black mare - "The Queen Of The South" with Trainer BOYZ Clay Sanderson, up for Shane Porterfield, owner, is 23 months old.
To their credit, Southerners under the banner “WE, The People” - Citizens Campaign Agaisnt “Big Lick” Animal Cruelty have protested this “animal abuse, and have now reduced it down to where it is holed on private proeprty at the Tennessee Walking Horse National Celebration at Shelbyville (Bedford County) Tennessee.
And local people are silently BOYCOTTING the “Big Lick” horse shows.
Native Tennesseean MTSU Horse Science Professor equine vet Dr. John Haffner says the "Big Lick" is Animal Cruelty - "a pain induced gait - a business built on the suffering and pain of horses".
Please support the grassroots “WE, The People” - Citizens Campaign Against “Big Lick” Animal Cruelty to END this abject horror to BABY HORSES by Donating (whatever you can afford).
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Sadly my horse has struggled with hind end lameness due to a training accident as a baby. He had a rough and too-early start as a saddle horse, but didn’t endure a fraction of this torture.
That said, I unfortunately know exactly what it looks like, and all of these poor horses have it.
My Morgan is now serviceably sound after two years of vet bills and worry, but will require maintenance for the rest of his career, which could end early.
If a tough saddleseat start did that to him, I can’t imagine what happens to these poor horses.
Yes that is so sad for him, glad he has you! These poor horses can’t even walk! It’s horrific!
Proof these horses get hind end lameness?
@@mentallyinsane445literally the way they move IN the class is suggestive of it, although the deliberate front-end lameness that produces the gait would make a flexion test virtually impossible.
If you look at visible strain on the SI, stifles (frequently quivering), and hocks it’s not hard to imagine what you’d see on film
@@BenderTheGreenCheek Look at retired 20+ year olds. Way more sound than your average retired jumper. Its in their conformation to have an overstride no matter the shoeing class
@@mentallyinsane445whatever you need to tell yourself I guess. At least you’re putting some thought into it which is more than most big lick supporters.
I’m speaking from experience of someone with a Morgan that has a natural overstride, can slip into running walk, and was started as a 2-yo saddleseat horse
His start was later and more gentle than these horses get, and at 11 he has hind end lameness that needs maintenance.
Watching my baby hurt is unbearable bc I see him as an animal not a machine. He’s the sort that troops through until he’s in agony, so after 20+ years in horses Ive recently learned a new skill set I past few years. Which is aided by knowledge and technology we didn’t have 20 years ago.
I’ve learned to watch for pain face and subtle signs of lameness. I see that in all big lick horses, and I hurt with them when I see it.
Yes, the modern jumping world is horrible to horses. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
A “normal person” dressage barn wo directly imported European warmbloods and Andalusians/PRE is a great place to rehab any lame horse. They get warmblood eventers that can do dressage but not show jumping and/or cross country, and OTTBs. I’ve seen the horrors bc that’s where I brought my Morgan to rehab the injuries he sustained as a baby saddleseat horse.
Saddleseat and gaited horses would be much better off if we went to plates. No stacks and of course no soring. It would be a shock of course, but in a decade it’s what we’d see as normal, and then we’d reward natural talent and not what people are willing to do to win. It’s all relative after all.
But - write all the rules you want. Until you LOSE for an artificially enhanced gait, people will find ways to do it, and it’s likely they’d be even worse for horse welfare than what we do currently.
As it is, I’ve got a naturally talented Morgan gelding that doesn’t show thanks to the covid-conomy.
With plates in front and barefoot in back, he sails along at a level trot, and if he were “shoed up” and worked with action devices he’d be competitive at a regional level
I pulled his show shoes for soundness reasons and so he could do turnout.
People in my barn said I was crazy to give it up, and admittedly it was a letdown at first.
But 4 years in, I love how he works, and he’s the same rocket ship I bought only happier. Riding him is a blast.
If we had a way to enforce that way of doing things universally (we probably won’t) horse welfare would improve, as would the breeds, because we’d be rewarding natural ability. :)
So sad to watch these horses struggle to move. Straight up abuse
A true American Horror Show. The ghouls parade of misery to carnival music.
How can this abuse continue on the Beautiful horses. Stop the abuse now. Once they are done with these beautiful horses they go to auction. SHUT THE BIG LICK DOWN NOW
Most of these classes are sponsored by businesses. I think the class sponsors should be named and publically attached to the class they sponsored. If sponsors were shamed and boycotted perhaps they would stop bankrolling the ribbons.
Bingo! You got to follow the money and cut it off.
Let's have a family day out. We'll take a picnic and go and watch some of the most beautiful animals on earth being tortured and abused and forced to move in the most ridiculous and unnatural where every single step will be agony for the poor creatures. Unbelievable!!! Don't they have animal abuse laws there then?
It's so wicked, it is against the law now, but there's always those that go beyond the law and threaten anyone that tries to stop them. It should be on the news every single day until it is stopped. Now dressage is going the same way, with rollkur training and blood in their mouths and blue tongues.
The horse is such a beautiful animal. When will it be enough
They all get a ribbon not earned. Cruelty
Follow the money. Who sponsors these events? What business associations? In order to put an end to this crap, the money source needs to be cut off. It’s all about the money. Sponsors to include printing publication; website designers; trainers; breeders; associated farms; horse owner businesses and associates etc. Dig deep.
A sick sick situation that these horses find themselves in. Not a happy alert horse in the ring. Since when have chestnut horses had black pasterns?? All of them struggling to perform. Non can balance to stand square, or they are compensating for back and leg strains. Heartbreaking.
Poor poor horses. Barbaric
Horrific and Gross!! These poor horses can’t even walk!!
Disgusting! This has to stop!
These poor poor horses who are overburdened and cruelly treated makes me so sad
See the Heavy Weights are back...bigger than ever. The horses are carrying Tonnage this year. WTH
Poor baby this will be stopped
Again, people torturing these horses for what… a ribbon? Very sad they are ruining these animals.😥😥😥
Are all these judges blind or bought off by the so called caring horse people
It's amazing these supports think the horses have dirt on their pasterns when it's actually chemicals. They even think Big Lick and Padded Performance are two different disciplines. Nope. Not different. Instead of calling it Big Lick, they call it Padded Performance for it sounds nicer. And let's mention that there are those who don't go to this but will put these stacks on their horses to get them to step high even though they don't put chemicals on them. Even with those who only just put the stacks on the horses' front hooves with no chemicals, it's still abusive. They're not the breeds of equines that have a high stepping gait. End this discipline forever.
Good comment!
this is so abusive how can u even do that to the horse. there is so much abusive practises like putting chemicals onto a horses leg,thoses big ass shoes, the riders also sit at the lower back of the horse which is putting EVEN MORE pressure onto the back legs and more shit. STOP THIS BULLSHIT THIS EVEN DOESNT LOOK NICE
These poor horses! Make this illegal now!
If I added my comments I would be kicked off every site on this planet I am so Angry and ashamed of humans of cruelty
Whoever came up with this wants shooting, it's disgusting to see such distressed horses who should not be shaking, sweating and breathing so heavily when standing still.
Im disgusted by this unatrul gait
Poor horses, this is so unnecessary, plus those horses are to small to be ridden. Especially by the size of those riders. Horrible
*sigh* Do I even need to point out that black horse that "won" clearly has something going on with it's legs, the asymmetry in walk is insane!
I'm not getting surprised by lack of care anymore, it's all done for money and power.
The black horse appeared to have an uneven stride in the hind legs, it was especially noticeable when he/she slowed down. And it won the class? Poor horse!
The ‘winning’ horse was in pain, too much weight on his poor hind quarters caused by his front being higher because of the stacks, a rider sitting purposefully to increase the weight behind, causing a higher leg action and high head carriage in an attempt to evade the pain from the barbaric bit. What a disgraceful, wicked, evil practice, ‘the big lick’ and soring. It’s time it stopped.
Egos’ as well!!!
There is no asymmetry. They walk and gait in a 4 beat pattern. $5 ribbons really aren't much money and power, you do know that?
The riders should wear the stacks and chains for the rest of ETERNITY the riders should suffer the pain the horses suffer
This is a disgrace to horses! Lawsuit to the show for animal cruelty and to the registration for promoting and allowing this travesty to continue! Let's bring this to the attention to the international horse community!
Public shaming for the owners and riders!!
YES! And take a look at the size of those old duffers astride those horses. At a riding stable, they'd be put on drafts! Poor, poor horses.
This is disgusting. The horses look like they are severely handicapped. The riders are too big, too fat, too old and ugly to look good riding those pretty horses. Riding, hah! This is abusing, not riding. I'm appalled! Why would any normal person want to watch this ugly cruelty. There is nothing attractive about it and to call it a sport is a cover up for a cruelty spectacle not unlike a bull fight.
Disgusting!
Watch the riders at the reverse. A lot of them will reach down and get a finger under the curb chain under the chin to dig it out of the flesh. This renews the blood flow so the area won't go numb and the horse can still feel the bite of the bit.
I know it's hard to "like" this video, but please do it. Without "likes", TH-cam won't offer the video to others. Your "like" helps get the word out about this terrible cruelty. Think of it this way - when you "like" the video, you are liking the fact that this horrific torture is being exposed and fought against.
But then the TH-camr is profiting off of views.please, nobody like this video, these horses are in terrible pain and don’t naturally move like that
@@H1h1285 I'm not sure if you read my entire comment. I am DEFINITELY not liking the shoes, chains, cut tail tendons and soring the horses are forced to endure. The thing to like about this video is the fact that this abuse at the Big Lick is being exposed to people who have never heard of it before. That's a big deal, as I am sure you would agree. If people - whether in the horse community or not - don't know about it, they can't do anything about it.
@@homeandgardendiy6363 I don’t think you read my entire comment. If you like the video, more people will see it, which gets it more views, so the TH-camr can make profit off of it so they will keep doing the big lick
@@H1h1285 I'm not sure why it's a problem for this particular TH-camr to gain funds from the ads on these videos. The TH-cam channel is a Citizens group that is against the Big Lick and is actively protesting and engaging in litigation to stop it permanently, including seeking enforcement of the PAST Act.
Any revenue that is generated by the channel would be put into that effort.
EDIT: Also, I want to thank you for being so courteous and intelligent in the comments you are making. So often differences of opinion quickly become name-calling matches. Thank you for the polite way you are communicating.
@@homeandgardendiy6363 sorry it’s only because when a video gets a lot of views they earn money so if they earn money from people watching big lick they might continue to do it. Sorry if I sound rude. Xx
Keep posting this. It needs to stop. This is atrocious
Please help us do just that. Donations enable the advocacy!
Seriously, horse that won clearly lame left back. Horse can barely walk. Everybody but judges (they see it but don’t care) can see this. Why do these judges reward abuse and a lame horse?Stop the abuse, ban the big lick.
Yes extremely unlevel behind. Another broken body all for the mighty 💰
WHY WHY WHY is this allowed? Fat riders on abused horses?? I don't get it!
And ... The crowd goes wild! Oh that's right ... There is no crowd. Winning!
Those poor horses.
Watching this shit from the other side of the world. It says to me that these owners/trainers( Fu*"wits) don't hold much faith in their horses ability if they have to resort to such barbarous practices. I'm pretty sure you're not gonna get a day in the saddle with these poor bloody horses. I thought the history of the TWH was a comfy ride over long distances? Poor horses are stuffed after a couple of laps of walking/ trotting. Are there anyone with ethics left? Anyway, love ya work Bob 💋
Sooooooooo many abusers Riders *Trainers *Grooms *Spectators *Owners * Announcers *Judges …..SO on and so on ……… How can I help from my studio apt in San Francisco ??? Please let me know
Stop the big lick. This makes me so, so angry
When will this end 😢
I don't support this at all. Just saying.
Grotesque.
Disgusting
The black one is lame on rear left hind. Yet WINS??? She should've been pulled. Anytime she's being turned tight at the walk, it's obvious!
HORSES NO GOTTİNG THİS!I AM SAYİNG:Stop… the…. BİG LİCK
Are these horses really small or are these riders HUGE? Their feet are almost touching the ground. This is animal abuse at its worse.
This disgusts me. I hate seeing the unnatural way these horses are having to gait. How could you be proud of your achievements when clearly it's artificial and uncomfortable for the horses. What happened to naturally gaited horses. Why can't these people see what a joke they are. The real beauty is letting the horses show themselves naturally. Gaiting without the torture they have to endure!
They some good looking horses
Their natural gait is even better looking.