I was playing on Normal speed and was confused at how this whole thing takes about 10 minutes. Did some googling and realized the game is played on Faster usually. Neat!
Great video, hard to find 2021 BO videos that explain as well as you did. Very helpful for new players, step by step commentary pairs well with BO write up.
I loved the in depth explanations. Actually explaining the process fully and acknowledging that this or that step is difficult for beginners and why was beyond helpful. Edit: also you gave general rules to follow but also acknowledged the cases where those rules varied (like observer placement and evolution chamber)
I've played starcraft 1. But i am kind of a beginner in starcraft 2. I love zerg. And this tip and guide helped me a lot. Thanks Hu Shang. Really looking forward for more tips and tricks. Hope you notice and read my comment
thanks for creating this video . I just started the game a few days ago and i only play campaign and Co-op missions . I'm really glad I found this video
Super cool to watch the process of a sc player. I can never seem to juggle all the things going on. So seeing it slowed down and broken into steps is very cool.
Not a bad start, good format, nice n clear. Hope the new zergies can use this to build, expand their skill and muscle memory and cycles. The way 4gate stalker helps ‘program’ toss players into things. :) look forward to these advancing, (and our coaching sessions lol) :D
Very good explanation of your build for a beginner such as myself. Haven’t played StarCraft in 20 years or so I think. So glad I’m back into and that there is videos like this out here.
i wanted to thank you for this, my win ration has rise a lot (in silver 1) i fail at somethings e.g forget the lair for a long time but still i end up with a really strong economy and if i dont lose to an early attack i atleast do enough damage so if i macro descent enough it is a really ez win, again thanks for the high quality video man!
Man Thank you very much for explaining slowly and understandable for beginners. I watched many other of the tutorials, most of them were too fast and Not as understandably like yours.
I played for the first time since probably 2000 and just got beaten down. I always played Terrain but going to try Zerg. Back in the day we used modems and the lag could be terrible if one player had a bad connection.
I haven't played zerg yet but I think Ill hop in once I watch this whole thing Terran main and for whatever reason Zerg just seems super intimidating to play
Bit of a learning curve but youll get it in no time :) Might take like 10-15 games to bring your rank down to beginner level so dont worry if you lose the first few ranked And come join our discord :) lots of ppl willing to help there
My best race is terran but my favorite is protoss (You could argue im about equal between them and terran as far as skill) But I really want to understand zerg. They've always seemed counter intuitive to me. How is one supposed to be a swarm that builds up quickly when you need the larva for drones for buildings. (And yes I realize queens are a thing. As well as extra hatcheries.) But the amount of drones needed for good defenses as well as necessary buildings. Not to mention overlords. Idk it just seems like it takes up minerals that'd be better spent on army. And you almost never seem to have enough larva. Please don't bash people. I don't play this game competitively or even on a semi regular basis. Im just a noob wanting to understand how players can pull off swarms.
Thats a very broad question. Depends on which minion holds the line. My opinion: @ 200 supply: If roach/Hydra I try and make around 12-17 hydras. Rest all roaches. Hydras outrange roaches. Having a good spread while roaches tanking the hydras slam. They are squishy I also withdraw once most roach # depletes. I wait for reinforcements b4 engaging again.
I am beating Elite AI with Terran like cake thanks to you. I will try zerg now and jump into competetive when I feel I am ready (hoping that I'll feel I am ready :D)
after preparing a lot against bots, don't let the first 5-20 games in ranked discourage you. it might pit you against some much better players for a while until your elo is properly set. at some point it will work and you get to have evenly matched opponents most of the time. trust me there are many many really bad players out there so that almost everyone will find mostly proper matches once the elo works (at least in EU this is definitely the case). have fun!
my hotkeys are all sorts of weird; im a protoss player and all my hotkeys are bound likewise (for example drones are e for me instead of d and since I build so many lings q is my ling key.)
Often I will use this against Protoss and they will have 1-2 void rays in defence. I can manage to deal good damage but rarely to kill them. What is the best transition then? Hydras with +2 attack?
@@TheFrogsmog The game is player at faster not normal speed. Other than that, you can post your replay in my discord server and ask someone to check it out for you :)
Getting back into playing after 8 years off and this is great. One question, when would you take your third on this build? As your initial first push is going? I am thinking more so to cover if the push is held and you have to back off? or would this be an all in and just keep pushing roaches?
It's fairly all in, but if they take some worker damage/go air you could transition. You can take the 3rd base before you push too if you want (will need to delay the gasses more). Fallback plans aren't really a thing in Starcraft 2. It's better if you realize the plan won't work before you do it and then make an adjustment. If you commit to something and it doesn't work you're probably losing and it will be up to the opponent to not capitalize on the advantage and let you back in the game. One of the exceptions would be if you kill their natural but then they bring their whole army and camp on the top of their ramp and you can't kill them but you're massively ahead. In that situation you could transition.
No b*llshit, I'm in gold 1 already only using this build, transitioning to hydras later if necessary, with a few minor tweaks after scouting... which, by the way, I was only able to do after silver 2 or so... thanks for these videos, they're awesome!
Say i’m playing zerg with a similar early expand and i scout that the enemy may be doing a roach timing attack like this. What is the zvz counterplay here?
That's a fantastic video, HuShang, as usual: clear and thorough. Super useful indeed. I just have one question: you mentioned "rally" and used it many times. What is it exactly and how do you do it? Thanks in advance!
Can you make a guide for late game Zerg play? Lately I find myself in a lot of macro games and I struggle a lot as Zerg given their super limited turtle capabilities, especially against Terrans.
finally a good BO explanation with infos, icons, big text animated, and correct explanation.. yes my lord. I am plat 1 bwt is it worth? I'm playing very eco BO with def 5 queens and double evo 5mn 4:30 lair 3rd at 2:19 @30 pop² ??
I think this build won't be that good in platinum 1, that's pretty much the limit. You'd better off using one of my other more macro zerg build order guides!
Silver-ish league and I'm so focused on trying to get a balance between supply and resources. At what point would you stop training roaches and move on to bigger stuff like vipers and hydra/ultra?
6:40 you build infestation pit, when it completes - hive, when it completes - ultralisk cavern - when it completes - make ultras to get to 200 supply, then attack. I wouldn't mess with vipers below diamond. Hope this helps, saying this as a diamond player myself
and remember that against protoss ultras suck pretty hard, so you should stick to roach/hydra + some corruptors/vipers to counter colossus if you see some
for low level (and also high level) compositions against the three races look for lambo's youtube guide: "Ultimate Zerg Unit Composition Guide - Zerg Academy"
I played this build for the first time. Went 4 zergling at 24. Executated it quite OK. Unfortunatelly when I arrived with my roaches my opponent had already 2 void rays with 2 other popping a few seconds into my attacked. It failed really bad and he already build 3rd nexus, while I was on two hatches. After failed attack I quickly build queens and spores and managed to defend his counterattack without too much damage. But his macro was way too ahead and at my level I wasn't able to catch up and lost. I think this build isn't too great against protos, since the meta even at lower leagues is void rays. Played this at MMR at 3080.
@@HuShang I am Plat 2 right now, but started at gold 3 a month ago. Pretty much all protos I played go for pure sky toss. I am struggeling against max out toss. I thought early agression and not allowing toss to max out should be the key. Ehat build would you suggest against toss? Saw lowko going for 12 pools against toss, but I dont really feel like rushing that early.
Really nice guide man. You specify that this would be good for gold, as a plat zerg trying to get into diamond, what would you do differently to adjust to the higher skilled players? My guess would be to take a 3rd and build a hydra den after the timing attack if it doesn't kill the enemy right?
To get to diamond you need to start playing much more similar to high level players. The standard is to take a fast 3rd and drone at a higher pace which is safe if you incorporate good scouting. I think a more standard ZvT build order guide but you'll have to dig a bit because it's quite a ways back (still up to date though)
@@HuShang Thank you for your response. I played quite a few games earlier using this build as a foundation and changing it up a bit depending on what the enemy is going and when they're taking their 3rd. The general idea of making units for a timing attack has definitely improved my game a lot more (especially for zvz, this build is awesome) as it seems harassment and scouting were huge weaknesses for me, so thank you for giving me something to work with 😊
Hey Umberto, come join us on the discord if you need help :) discord.gg/pPhaEk9 Q: hotkeys all the army automatically A: Not possible to do it automatically. Select the units you want then cntrl + #(create new) or shift + #(add to existing)
The video starts a little too advanced. I’m just trying to learn how to grab workers to build things lol. Surely you don’t always have to pick them 1 by 1
how do you make roaches without selecting larva? are they any hotkeys to do so? i waste so much time clicking on everything, hatchery, larvas, everything and you do that actions without even selecting stuff just hotkeys. how??
Put your hatcheries on a control groups, for example #4. To do that click on a new hatchery and either cntrl + 5 to make a new one or shift + 5 to add to it. Then just 5 -> s for larva -> d for drones
Thank you for all the guides, I m toss since broodwar. I play for fun, and what a great fun it is : p for couple of seasons ladder has been really confusing. I played placement match with Terran and lost all but one game and it put me in masters. I main Protoss and it’s in silver, my highest rank was in plat 1, now I play in silver vs bronze and masters. I struggle mostly with terrans. So I started going robo for obs and twilight for blink. I know I suck at micro and over producing probes but the biggest issue for me is scout Terran and defending bc, sometimes mine fields. So I try to distribute defences evenly across 3 bases but Terran just play me like a fiddle. In the end it’s turrets all over the map and towers to spot almost whole map. Do you have video for that or a tip I could watch? I mainly want to know what is better in this situation. 3 base vs 3 base do I build double stargate for voids, or continue upgraded stalker with blink, should I build canons and shielbatteries and how much is enough. The thing in lover leagues that they know to build expo and lots of workers, so in the end they have the bank for making their own vision of sc true. Give them 14 mins and they will be doing mass something all over the map. Don’t get me wrong I really like this, I remember wol times I started in bronze and quickly became silver and soon after gold to just have a knowledge to build my first pylon, gate, gas and cyber even forgetting second pylon didn’t mater too much then in bronze to gold. Now I see every other game cheese with proxies or fast expand eco builds in silver. That’s great because playing with active opponents teaches you be active yourself. I think all this guides helps making Starcraft great and much more fun to play vs wol when you ended up in gold and every game is 1 or 2 base all ins now we can have it in bronze already. Sorry for the rant ;) wanted to thank you again and wish you the best!
I have some pvt guides around and also the gameplays playlist where you can find some examples of pvt. Those should help to give you some perspective. The two main styles in pvt are 1) 2 gate blink -> 3rd base 2) 2 gate stargate -> robo -> robo bay -> 3rd base Come join us on discord and there are some nice folks that can give you some additional pointers!
Tower rush everything, get in build a drone or to till you can build a crystal and forge as ur doing that ur running a drone towards their base, set a crystal a screen a way and towers at it, then move up till I block em in lol.
In the lower leagues the strategy/unit counters aren't really very important. You will do fine with this build because you'll have so much more stuff. Just run your roaches in and kill all of their workers as you tech up to something that will kill their units like corruptor for BC or hydra for voidrays.
You can either sack all the roaches for worker kills and transition or you can add in overseer scouting before you commit to building roaches and in this case just skip them and go muta/hydra/ dronespore etc
It's okay sometimes. When you use it more than once it doesn't begin creating larva until after the first inject is complete. Essentially it doesn't create more larva, but you don't need to inject the hatchery for longer. Early game it's not good because you'd rather use the energy to spread creep or inject a different hatchery
you already lost in many cases like me, e.g.: dark templar, battlecruiser, you have no detector in your base, 6mins seems enough for one bc, and one bc is close to enough to destroy your base, and Terran can have mediev in your main base, you have no anti-air.
Are you waiting longer than shown in the video to attack? If you're pushing on time then it should only be 1-2 air units so you can still push, do damage and then transition into a few anti-air units.
@@HuShang im a bit later because you are hella fast, i lost 5 and won 1 so far but ill keep training. I always get clapped by counter attacks with air units. Thanks for the tuts btw :)
@@unstable_7071 aha! sick. Glad we figured it out :) Come join us in squadshang also if you're not already. People are super helpful in there if you have more questions
I'm having a little trouble against protoss, because of their air units. Roaches can only attack ground units so when the protoss ships come my roaches just stare at them while being crushed ;-;
Use mass queens + spores for early defense. Then switch to hydra. But if they are massing void rays then their defense are probably nonexistent, thats why you go nydus their ass
I’m sorry but if you think have battlecruisers warping around to the spacey parts of the map he can huddle in behind your base in minutes from game start is ok, there’s something wrong. Starcraft was much better before they started everyone off mid game. Shits stupid.
Just did this build and beat my diamond friend....granted he’s a few years rusty and didn’t know what shield batteries were and forgot adepts existed...
Hey :). Sorry to hear that. Its hard to tell what mistakes you might be making from that info alone. If you want some more help figuring it out you should join us on discord and post your replay so we can see.
@@HuShang I think the build order is nice but you shouldn't really advertise it as a timing attack that will end your games most of the time, because even following it perfectly it will almost never work that way even at the lowest elo... I think advertising it as a solid macro start that is relatively safe (as long as you scout an expo) is more accurate, but it will almost never just end the game for you from my experience. I tried it about 10 times and got close to it working more than once (it honestly worked better vs plat/gold players in my placements than vs bronze once I was placed), but people play REALLY safe at low elo, and will definitely have something to match a push like this.
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@@HuShang i mean economy part is very good but roaches? they get rekt pretty easily against terrant who just build some air units , add here few tanks and you're done. i was forced to build coruptors or muta every time to win if at all
![Learn Starcraft 2: EASY Beginner Zerg Build Order Guide vs Protoss [2020]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5MwuNRUcLtg/mqdefault.jpg)
I was playing on Normal speed and was confused at how this whole thing takes about 10 minutes. Did some googling and realized the game is played on Faster usually. Neat!
Great video, hard to find 2021 BO videos that explain as well as you did. Very helpful for new players, step by step commentary pairs well with BO write up.
Glad you liked it! Come join us on discord as well :)
I loved the in depth explanations. Actually explaining the process fully and acknowledging that this or that step is difficult for beginners and why was beyond helpful.
Edit: also you gave general rules to follow but also acknowledged the cases where those rules varied (like observer placement and evolution chamber)
I've played starcraft 1. But i am kind of a beginner in starcraft 2. I love zerg. And this tip and guide helped me a lot. Thanks Hu Shang. Really looking forward for more tips and tricks. Hope you notice and read my comment
Im diamond player as protoss, but i really like the other races playstyle. This kind of video help me so much to learn and have Fun. Thanks Hushang.
Im platinum protoss and try zerg as second races. It's really fun.
thanks for creating this video . I just started the game a few days ago and i only play campaign and Co-op missions . I'm really glad I found this video
Super cool to watch the process of a sc player. I can never seem to juggle all the things going on. So seeing it slowed down and broken into steps is very cool.
Not a bad start, good format, nice n clear. Hope the new zergies can use this to build, expand their skill and muscle memory and cycles. The way 4gate stalker helps ‘program’ toss players into things. :) look forward to these advancing, (and our coaching sessions lol) :D
I just have converted to Zerg from Protoss and this build has helped me win a lot of matches in just a few days. Thanks for the video👍
Welcome to the bugs :)
Very good explanation of your build for a beginner such as myself. Haven’t played StarCraft in 20 years or so I think. So glad I’m back into and that there is videos like this out here.
i wanted to thank you for this, my win ration has rise a lot (in silver 1) i fail at somethings e.g
forget the lair for a long time but still i end up with a really strong economy and if i dont lose to an early attack i atleast do enough damage so if i macro descent enough it is a really ez win, again thanks for the high quality video man!
Hell ya dude~ Come chill with us in discord as well! we'll help you get to gold :)
@@HuShang actually i just did rank up :)
Im new to the game. This guide is really helpful since I want learn how to play the game with zergs. Thank you!!
No problem! Should be a great first build. Make sure to join us on discord as well in case you have some questions :)
Good start for new players and a solid reminder for returning SC and SC2 players!
Man Thank you very much for explaining slowly and understandable for beginners. I watched many other of the tutorials, most of them were too fast and Not as understandably like yours.
I played for the first time since probably 2000 and just got beaten down. I always played Terrain but going to try Zerg. Back in the day we used modems and the lag could be terrible if one player had a bad connection.
Dude. This is awesome. I'm gonna play tonight and give this a shot!
Come join us on discord & let me know how it goes :)
That you so much, you explained it so good for beginners. It really helped me :)
I'm new and haven't played the other two races but I'm not going to because this is God tier
nice vid going to bring this to the arena here soon
I haven't played zerg yet but I think Ill hop in once I watch this whole thing
Terran main and for whatever reason Zerg just seems super intimidating to play
Not played Starcraft 2 ever but your video gave me hope I won't suck so hard so lets try this out :D
Bit of a learning curve but youll get it in no time :)
Might take like 10-15 games to bring your rank down to beginner level so dont worry if you lose the first few ranked
And come join our discord :) lots of ppl willing to help there
@@HuShang Played my 5 first ranked and got Silver (2270 MMR) , thanks to your build order of course. Thank you very much!!!
My best race is terran but my favorite is protoss (You could argue im about equal between them and terran as far as skill) But I really want to understand zerg. They've always seemed counter intuitive to me. How is one supposed to be a swarm that builds up quickly when you need the larva for drones for buildings. (And yes I realize queens are a thing. As well as extra hatcheries.) But the amount of drones needed for good defenses as well as necessary buildings. Not to mention overlords. Idk it just seems like it takes up minerals that'd be better spent on army. And you almost never seem to have enough larva.
Please don't bash people. I don't play this game competitively or even on a semi regular basis. Im just a noob wanting to understand how players can pull off swarms.
I don't even play the game and watched this guide :D Thank you tho it was very easy to follow even for someone who doesn't play this game
I've played sc2 forever, suddenly games are back and dudes posting tutorials after it being dead for a long time.
Wtf happened? This is awesome
Hydralisks. As a general rule, when should you start building them. Typically, what's a good number of hydralisks should you have.
Thats a very broad question. Depends on which minion holds the line.
My opinion: @ 200 supply: If roach/Hydra I try and make around 12-17 hydras. Rest all roaches. Hydras outrange roaches. Having a good spread while roaches tanking the hydras slam. They are squishy I also withdraw once most roach # depletes. I wait for reinforcements b4 engaging again.
I am beating Elite AI with Terran like cake thanks to you. I will try zerg now and jump into competetive when I feel I am ready (hoping that I'll feel I am ready :D)
after preparing a lot against bots, don't let the first 5-20 games in ranked discourage you. it might pit you against some much better players for a while until your elo is properly set. at some point it will work and you get to have evenly matched opponents most of the time. trust me there are many many really bad players out there so that almost everyone will find mostly proper matches once the elo works (at least in EU this is definitely the case). have fun!
I love it when this guy laughs
love it, thank you!
my hotkeys are all sorts of weird; im a protoss player and all my hotkeys are bound likewise (for example drones are e for me instead of d and since I build so many lings q is my ling key.)
Often I will use this against Protoss and they will have 1-2 void rays in defence. I can manage to deal good damage but rarely to kill them. What is the best transition then? Hydras with +2 attack?
Sounds great. Queens are also a fantastic unit vs air
So I tried copying your build exactly but even at faster my 2nd over lord on spawns at 50 seconds I'm new so I'm just practicing on training
On your video your 2nd overlord spawns at 31 seconds
@@TheFrogsmog The game is player at faster not normal speed. Other than that, you can post your replay in my discord server and ask someone to check it out for you :)
@@HuShang I am on faster that's why I don't understand
@@TheFrogsmog did you join the discord? Can solve it right away with the replay :)
Getting back into playing after 8 years off and this is great. One question, when would you take your third on this build? As your initial first push is going? I am thinking more so to cover if the push is held and you have to back off? or would this be an all in and just keep pushing roaches?
It's fairly all in, but if they take some worker damage/go air you could transition. You can take the 3rd base before you push too if you want (will need to delay the gasses more).
Fallback plans aren't really a thing in Starcraft 2. It's better if you realize the plan won't work before you do it and then make an adjustment. If you commit to something and it doesn't work you're probably losing and it will be up to the opponent to not capitalize on the advantage and let you back in the game.
One of the exceptions would be if you kill their natural but then they bring their whole army and camp on the top of their ramp and you can't kill them but you're massively ahead. In that situation you could transition.
Hushang becoming an IRL queen, making larvas then drone non-stop until death :O
😅
Pretty great video. But how can this playstyle be safe when going only roaches that can be easily countered with air units?
The goal is to build the roaches and field them faster than the enemy can build up to and field a air force.
No b*llshit, I'm in gold 1 already only using this build, transitioning to hydras later if necessary, with a few minor tweaks after scouting... which, by the way, I was only able to do after silver 2 or so... thanks for these videos, they're awesome!
Nice work!
I'm sorry but where's the comment that links to spawningtool? I can't find it in the description or comments..
Thank you bro needed this
np dude, glad to help! Come join us on discord as well :)
Say i’m playing zerg with a similar early expand and i scout that the enemy may be doing a roach timing attack like this. What is the zvz counterplay here?
That's a fantastic video, HuShang, as usual: clear and thorough. Super useful indeed.
I just have one question: you mentioned "rally" and used it many times. What is it exactly and how do you do it? Thanks in advance!
It's where your units go when they finish. The "rally point"
Thank you, HuShang!
How do you tell your units where the rally point is?
Thanks in advance! :)
@@vinimagus cli9ck hatch hotkey then just right click on the ground
Thanks so much super helpful pretty funny as well.
Happy to help!
Can you make a guide for late game Zerg play? Lately I find myself in a lot of macro games and I struggle a lot as Zerg given their super limited turtle capabilities, especially against Terrans.
...concise
Are you selecting a single drone without clicking it? or did I just miss the click?
Ty for your content
finally a good BO explanation with infos, icons, big text animated, and correct explanation.. yes my lord. I am plat 1 bwt is it worth? I'm playing very eco BO with def 5 queens and double evo 5mn 4:30 lair 3rd at 2:19 @30 pop² ??
I think this build won't be that good in platinum 1, that's pretty much the limit. You'd better off using one of my other more macro zerg build order guides!
Silver-ish league and I'm so focused on trying to get a balance between supply and resources. At what point would you stop training roaches and move on to bigger stuff like vipers and hydra/ultra?
6:40 you build infestation pit, when it completes - hive, when it completes - ultralisk cavern - when it completes - make ultras to get to 200 supply, then attack. I wouldn't mess with vipers below diamond. Hope this helps, saying this as a diamond player myself
and remember that against protoss ultras suck pretty hard, so you should stick to roach/hydra + some corruptors/vipers to counter colossus if you see some
for low level (and also high level) compositions against the three races look for lambo's youtube guide: "Ultimate Zerg Unit Composition Guide - Zerg Academy"
Interesting that you don't teach them to do new keybinds, I find the faster you learn that the better off you are
I played this build for the first time. Went 4 zergling at 24. Executated it quite OK. Unfortunatelly when I arrived with my roaches my opponent had already 2 void rays with 2 other popping a few seconds into my attacked. It failed really bad and he already build 3rd nexus, while I was on two hatches. After failed attack I quickly build queens and spores and managed to defend his counterattack without too much damage. But his macro was way too ahead and at my level I wasn't able to catch up and lost. I think this build isn't too great against protos, since the meta even at lower leagues is void rays. Played this at MMR at 3080.
It's a beginner build order, not recommended for Platinum+. 3080 is almost Diamond
@@HuShang I am Plat 2 right now, but started at gold 3 a month ago. Pretty much all protos I played go for pure sky toss. I am struggeling against max out toss. I thought early agression and not allowing toss to max out should be the key. Ehat build would you suggest against toss? Saw lowko going for 12 pools against toss, but I dont really feel like rushing that early.
Sorry HuShaang I am not sure if I missed it but did you skip long speed entirely in this build?
Correct, no ling speed with this build
Whats long speed?
@@bobbybencarvajal7203 I think he meant zergling speed
@@bobbybencarvajal7203 ya zergling speed is sometimes called ling speed autocorrect messed it up
great vid, I struggle with turtle Terran when they have tanks on high ground using this build push.
The way you describe it they are on one base? You don't need to push there. Let me know if it's a different scenario
Retreat, upgrade to ravagers and bring your overlord for high ground vision.
3 biles kill a tank
Really nice guide man. You specify that this would be good for gold, as a plat zerg trying to get into diamond, what would you do differently to adjust to the higher skilled players? My guess would be to take a 3rd and build a hydra den after the timing attack if it doesn't kill the enemy right?
To get to diamond you need to start playing much more similar to high level players. The standard is to take a fast 3rd and drone at a higher pace which is safe if you incorporate good scouting. I think a more standard ZvT build order guide but you'll have to dig a bit because it's quite a ways back (still up to date though)
@@HuShang Thank you for your response. I played quite a few games earlier using this build as a foundation and changing it up a bit depending on what the enemy is going and when they're taking their 3rd. The general idea of making units for a timing attack has definitely improved my game a lot more (especially for zvz, this build is awesome) as it seems harassment and scouting were huge weaknesses for me, so thank you for giving me something to work with 😊
@@lordpeckle6714 you wanna get your third base on 28 or 30 supply
Thanks!! =)
Thannks for the guide ! It is really well explaind.
This video is great, one small thing though. It’s pronounced “may lay” not “mehleee” 😭
nice try im not falling for your evil ways
Sorry can anyone help me? I don’t understand how to hotkeys all the army automatically
Hey Umberto, come join us on the discord if you need help :) discord.gg/pPhaEk9
Q: hotkeys all the army automatically
A: Not possible to do it automatically. Select the units you want then cntrl + #(create new) or shift + #(add to existing)
good vid bro
Thanks dude
Huskies in the background?
Doberman! :)
please just post the build order in the description or the chat.
Can you also make a video about hotkeys? Like how to bind, unbind units to your hotkeys, and things like that. If you did, can you send me a link?
That would be helpful. Send me if there is one
The video starts a little too advanced. I’m just trying to learn how to grab workers to build things lol. Surely you don’t always have to pick them 1 by 1
Unless you are using the hotkeys to speed up the process, it's always one at a time.
how do you make roaches without selecting larva? are they any hotkeys to do so? i waste so much time clicking on everything, hatchery, larvas, everything and you do that actions without even selecting stuff just hotkeys. how??
Put your hatcheries on a control groups, for example #4. To do that click on a new hatchery and either cntrl + 5 to make a new one or shift + 5 to add to it. Then just 5 -> s for larva -> d for drones
is this ZvX?
Thank you for all the guides, I m toss since broodwar. I play for fun, and what a great fun it is : p for couple of seasons ladder has been really confusing. I played placement match with Terran and lost all but one game and it put me in masters. I main Protoss and it’s in silver, my highest rank was in plat 1, now I play in silver vs bronze and masters. I struggle mostly with terrans. So I started going robo for obs and twilight for blink. I know I suck at micro and over producing probes but the biggest issue for me is scout Terran and defending bc, sometimes mine fields. So I try to distribute defences evenly across 3 bases but Terran just play me like a fiddle. In the end it’s turrets all over the map and towers to spot almost whole map. Do you have video for that or a tip I could watch? I mainly want to know what is better in this situation. 3 base vs 3 base do I build double stargate for voids, or continue upgraded stalker with blink, should I build canons and shielbatteries and how much is enough. The thing in lover leagues that they know to build expo and lots of workers, so in the end they have the bank for making their own vision of sc true. Give them 14 mins and they will be doing mass something all over the map. Don’t get me wrong I really like this, I remember wol times I started in bronze and quickly became silver and soon after gold to just have a knowledge to build my first pylon, gate, gas and cyber even forgetting second pylon didn’t mater too much then in bronze to gold. Now I see every other game cheese with proxies or fast expand eco builds in silver. That’s great because playing with active opponents teaches you be active yourself. I think all this guides helps making Starcraft great and much more fun to play vs wol when you ended up in gold and every game is 1 or 2 base all ins now we can have it in bronze already. Sorry for the rant ;) wanted to thank you again and wish you the best!
I have some pvt guides around and also the gameplays playlist where you can find some examples of pvt. Those should help to give you some perspective.
The two main styles in pvt are
1) 2 gate blink -> 3rd base
2) 2 gate stargate -> robo -> robo bay -> 3rd base
Come join us on discord and there are some nice folks that can give you some additional pointers!
Tower rush everything, get in build a drone or to till you can build a crystal and forge as ur doing that ur running a drone towards their base, set a crystal a screen a way and towers at it, then move up till I block em in lol.
Will this work against early VR toss and fast BC from Terran? Thanks.
In the lower leagues the strategy/unit counters aren't really very important. You will do fine with this build because you'll have so much more stuff. Just run your roaches in and kill all of their workers as you tech up to something that will kill their units like corruptor for BC or hydra for voidrays.
For me to be able to pause and rewind, how should I create the game?
Custom lobby easy ai
Thanks, I was doing multiplayer / vs ai
glad you figured it out! Make sure to come join us on the discord as well :)@@Chackalisimo
what do u play agaisnt som1 who rush air units ? good video tho 👍
You can either sack all the roaches for worker kills and transition or you can add in overseer scouting before you commit to building roaches and in this case just skip them and go muta/hydra/ dronespore etc
@@HuShang thanks :) you make great videos about zerg, I learn a lot from them . keep it up
Is using spawn larva more than once a waste of energy? I realized that you can do it to the same hatch and wondered if it had some effect
It's okay sometimes. When you use it more than once it doesn't begin creating larva until after the first inject is complete. Essentially it doesn't create more larva, but you don't need to inject the hatchery for longer. Early game it's not good because you'd rather use the energy to spread creep or inject a different hatchery
@@HuShang So it stacks, that's cool, thanks for answering
How are you injecting both queens at the same time? I cant figure that out and its something i really wanna learn how to do!
th-cam.com/video/5An7RM-NxTk/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=HuShangTutorials
Let me know if this helps :)
you already lost in many cases like me, e.g.: dark templar, battlecruiser, you have no detector in your base, 6mins seems enough for one bc, and one bc is close to enough to destroy your base, and Terran can have mediev in your main base, you have no anti-air.
Yes it's just a build order, you still have to scout and make decisions
What should i do if my enemy has a lot of air units when i attack?
Are you waiting longer than shown in the video to attack? If you're pushing on time then it should only be 1-2 air units so you can still push, do damage and then transition into a few anti-air units.
@@HuShang im a bit later because you are hella fast, i lost 5 and won 1 so far but ill keep training. I always get clapped by counter attacks with air units. Thanks for the tuts btw :)
Is it just me or is the Spawning Tool build order different from the video
Yeah.I noticed. Can anyone explain this
how do you do it so fast my timings didnt match up
how far off?
@@HuShang nvm I think I just forgot to upgrade my lair for a while lol
@@unstable_7071 aha! sick. Glad we figured it out :) Come join us in squadshang also if you're not already. People are super helpful in there if you have more questions
To know is half the battle
lowko! help.
I'm having a little trouble against protoss, because of their air units. Roaches can only attack ground units so when the protoss ships come my roaches just stare at them while being crushed ;-;
awesome against human and zerg tho =)
Use mass queens + spores for early defense. Then switch to hydra.
But if they are massing void rays then their defense are probably nonexistent, thats why you go nydus their ass
@@Krasses awesome!! Thanks
So easy opp... no air, nothing. Do you have a video against a pro player?
its not working
What is your MMR?
I have d1 on toss but i have no fkng idea how to play zerg so i learn it from guy that teach ppl that bearly know that sc2 is. Feel bad man
Just go over the build order not what to do with what and the what.
If you just want the build order there is a link to my spawning tool guide in the description :)
This doesn’t help much when Terran can warp battle cruisers behind your base in 5 mins xD
Its not imbalanced at all.
@benji Make sure youre checking with your first overlord if they are playing 1 base and also what they are producing
I’m sorry but if you think have battlecruisers warping around to the spacey parts of the map he can huddle in behind your base in minutes from game start is ok, there’s something wrong. Starcraft was much better before they started everyone off mid game. Shits stupid.
The first time i tried this i got destroyed by air units
Come join us on discord and post your replay so we can help you :)
I don't know why but I can't make this work
Whats your mmr?
@@HuShang 2200
@@Zestric hmm, should still be fine. Join the discord and drop your replay in replay analysis :)
@@HuShang Sorry I don't do discord but thanks for trying to help.
I'll watch more of your tutorials until something works.
Either match making is broken or this build is shite. Lost all 6 matches I played. And last season I went from bronze to gold 1
If protoss gets one voidray out at 6 min this entire strat falls flat
Not at all
You seem very prejudice towards gas actually
Vespene geysers hate him
Just did this build and beat my diamond friend....granted he’s a few years rusty and didn’t know what shield batteries were and forgot adepts existed...
Hey, wait... that's not allowed. This is a beginner build ;)
Nice guide, but it really irritates me that you talk super slowly on purpose just to lenghthen the video .. thats not really a way
This video is for brand new players, that's why im talking slower.
You say it will work up to gold-plat but in bronze I have my 9 roaches in their base at 5:30 and it never works so I don't really believe you.
Hey :). Sorry to hear that.
Its hard to tell what mistakes you might be making from that info alone. If you want some more help figuring it out you should join us on discord and post your replay so we can see.
@@HuShang I think the build order is nice but you shouldn't really advertise it as a timing attack that will end your games most of the time, because even following it perfectly it will almost never work that way even at the lowest elo... I think advertising it as a solid macro start that is relatively safe (as long as you scout an expo) is more accurate, but it will almost never just end the game for you from my experience. I tried it about 10 times and got close to it working more than once (it honestly worked better vs plat/gold players in my placements than vs bronze once I was placed), but people play REALLY safe at low elo, and will definitely have something to match a push like this.
@@hisnameisarthurmorgan534 It is a timing attack that will end ALL of your games at the lower elo's 100% of the time if you do it correctly.
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think thats a different build order doesnt have a 36 overlord
This is terrible, you will get owned by easy a I in 5 minutes
Looks like you have a lot to improve on :)
I am disliking only because of the annoying laughter
Great! Hope it annoyed you immensely :)
this is horrible, this build gets rekt by noobs with 2k mmr
Its good till plat or diamond
@@HuShang why not building hydra ?
@@TheShmrsh They're not good till you have a much better economy and even then are pretty trash
@@HuShang i mean economy part is very good but roaches? they get rekt pretty easily against terrant who just build some air units , add here few tanks and you're done. i was forced to build coruptors or muta every time to win if at all