7-30 maxed-out, omg. It looks like a new goal. Yep, it's a "laboratory conditions", I get it. But I definitely should try it out. For educational/training purposes to refine my macro.
Thank you for putting this up. I've started playing a few days ago and been practicing by myself before I hop online. Having this kind of benchmarks is really helpful in order to automate some sort of build order and basic macro, so that I have the brain space in an actual game to manage everything else that's going on. I've decided that once I can max out an army and have all bases saturated by 8 minutes or so, I'll hop on the ladder.
Very helpful. Really enjoy how simple you keep most of it. Really immediately improved my play. I've been great with Terran, but struggled so much with Zerg.
Arena shooters like Quake also have a sense of an economy that you must manage that is ultimately more important than individual interactions in fights in the form of map control for pickups. There's a great video that demonstrates this where Rapha faces a player who is cheating with an aimbot and beats him by starving him of resources.
I definitely needed to see this ovie production. It's so simple. I tend to get close to supply block and panic build two ovies. I'm producing Queens too fast as well, so the drop in drones is snowballing and holding me back.
Awesome video, I'd love to see more of these kinds of fundamentals, for Zerg especially, but for the other races as well. Also, what the hell kind of cool announcer is that?
been trying to learn zerg for so long.... quit the game because it was too hard.... now i find your videos and you explain all the things i desperately needed to know, but didnt know how to ask THANKYOU! time to play some zerg :D
I am average player. Every game i play i get to platinum (overall) but when i tried some RTS like AOE and STARCRAFT 2 i was struggling to win matches in silver. Was watching many guides but this one for zerg looks like the best to absorb what u should do as a beginner.
I have this more or less nailed... 4:15 spore etc. What I struggle with is reading my opponents build and scouting effectively. I often find myself with a 3-1-3 zergling, bane, hydra, viper army against 2-2 BC's with hellion tank. Then I slowly trade worse in my rock paper scissors fights until I start losing bases... I know the counter is corrupter, ling, bane in the mid game but always make the transition far to late... I got to master 3 because of my fundamentals but now my lack of APM 120-150 avg and my poor choice of unit compositions is leaving me frustrated... Same thing against skytoss I either try a quick queen hydra infestor push early and fail... Or get ahead in the early to mid game but micro my spellcasters poorly in the late game. The only reason I am in masters is because my Z vs Z has a 93 percent win rate. Now I just feel outskilled and outmatched in my ZvsT and slighly less so in my ZvsP
HI Neuro very helpful video thanks !!! - I kinda get tripped up by not having the overlords intime then get slowed, do you have any tips on overlord timings?
usually, for skills like Ravenger's "Corrosive Bile", you set its hotkey as an *alternative* to the "Use ability/Select target - AI" setting in "Global/Unit control" (i think). This makes so that you can *hold down* 1 hotkey to *use the ability and select the target at the same time*, thus, "rapidly firing" by shortening the time to use ability (hotkey) and select target (enemy/area). I use "E" for most spells, so i set "E" as alternative hotkey for "choose ability + select target". What he means with this for drones, i believe, is that he just uses *the same hotkey for "Select Larva" and "morph Drone"* (i do as well). So for example, if taking the "grid" hotkey layout as example: pressing "Q" on a hatchery/all hatches for "Select Larva" -> pressing "Q" to morph a Drone from it. What then happens if you *just hold down the "Q" hotkey* is: you select all Larva and *immediately* spam-morph all those to drones, because your Keyboard just repeats "QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ".
Man your videos are good. I am using rapidfire but not on my drone production...I am so stupid... obviously it will help with my games......66 worker within 5 minutes....sure but u have mot been harassed yet and it already 7 min game...but anyway GG man, 07: 30 maxed out....mmm that will help me a lot...!! I am trying this out this evening but I am sure I gonna get some harass because everybody at plat diamant level is harassing so it s never perfect macro ...
In my opinion, since it's a tutorial for beginners, going slow and explaining those quick things ur doing would be better, I can't even see where/when u hatched ur first troops 😕😞
This one while still fundemental/basic is def not for beginners who are brand new to the game. it assumes you know the buildings, units, tech tree, and "flavor" of the race The first army unit he made was the "zergling". To make zerglings you need the building called "spawning pool" In this video he made the spawning pool at 2:06 video time 1.1mins in game time. Spawingpool finishes at 2:51 vid time 2.0min game time and he immediately makes the first zergling at 2:53 vid time 2min1sec game time. first zergling hatches at 3:10 vid time 2min19sec game time (this zerling happened to hatch on camera , but one typically does not watch their units hatch , just click to grow - click on the map where you want it to go once grown- then move on and just trust its gonna happen.) I see what you saying, but if he went slow he wouldn't be able to hit the 200 supply at 7.5mins in game time.
Starcraft has always been like that since it was released in 1998. You can get used to it with some practice. It's honestly one of the most interesting aspects of this game btw. And Neuro does more actions than an average player since he's a grandmaster (have in mind that if same number of actions are done by both GM and an average, a GM will always make better decisions with them). I've got some protoss videos on my own if u want to see how taxing it is for an average player to keep up with it.
1. This is an exercise. 2. If you're droning to 3 base saturation without paying attention to what your opponent is doing, then yes you will lose many many times. There is much more to the game, see point 1. 3. Maybe I can say something about the point of the exercise. If you're safe, then you should generally be droning, so this exercise provides a sort of baseline build order (Also note he does make safety lings early too). Probably the best point tho is about using larva immediately as soon as they pop. It makes a large difference in your results.
The Bob Ross of Zerg
EXACTLY
@@factualpots.-.406 My words exactly
literally
5 years later. Still helpful
7-30 maxed-out, omg. It looks like a new goal. Yep, it's a "laboratory conditions", I get it. But I definitely should try it out. For educational/training purposes to refine my macro.
"if you cant hit 7.30 under lab conditions how will you even hit 8.30 while dealing with harass"
Awesome video mate. I just started starcraft 2 a week ago and was looking for a beginner guide. Would be cool if you continue uploading these.
This is good understanding and knowing how to do this is important but I’d look at vibes B2GM build as a starter and apply the same principles
"Always an OL abt to be born" that's a very useful tip for me
I like how you explain things.
Really helpful video, I wish more guides were like this.
Underrated channel. Thanks for the guide.
ive hit this wall in ladder to max out fast and knew worker count can be much better. this video is exactly what i needed thanks!
I think that is the single most important video I have ever watched for my SC2 education. Thanks a lot Neuro - Subscribed
Thank you for putting this up. I've started playing a few days ago and been practicing by myself before I hop online. Having this kind of benchmarks is really helpful in order to automate some sort of build order and basic macro, so that I have the brain space in an actual game to manage everything else that's going on. I've decided that once I can max out an army and have all bases saturated by 8 minutes or so, I'll hop on the ladder.
Very helpful. Really enjoy how simple you keep most of it. Really immediately improved my play. I've been great with Terran, but struggled so much with Zerg.
GOOD TUTORIAL
Thanks. Hope to see more of these Zerg Basics videos. It helps us beginners.
This is how you tutor a zerg.100% reliability!(only Neuro can explained)
Thanks for the content, mate. I dig your style - very calming but sharp and focused. Strictly logical! Will check out more.
The real question is how fast can You burrow banes at the third?
Wow! I max out in 9:30 mins and you only in 7:30? Ok, you're gm and i started 3 weeks ago, but it's crazy man!
Great video, you’re so calm explaining everything
i wish a could like this video more than once! ! :) working on the "maxoutfastashumanlypossible" thing right now peace brother thanks for the video
Arena shooters like Quake also have a sense of an economy that you must manage that is ultimately more important than individual interactions in fights in the form of map control for pickups. There's a great video that demonstrates this where Rapha faces a player who is cheating with an aimbot and beats him by starving him of resources.
Priceless... as usual
Awesome video. Super clear explanations! Thank you!
I definitely needed to see this ovie production. It's so simple. I tend to get close to supply block and panic build two ovies. I'm producing Queens too fast as well, so the drop in drones is snowballing and holding me back.
Awesome video, I'd love to see more of these kinds of fundamentals, for Zerg especially, but for the other races as well. Also, what the hell kind of cool announcer is that?
GREAT video. This is eye-opening.
Awesome explanation! Thank you!
been trying to learn zerg for so long....
quit the game because it was too hard....
now i find your videos and you explain all the things i desperately needed to know, but didnt know how to ask
THANKYOU! time to play some zerg :D
Thnx neuro
I will be practicing this tomorrow. I just hit gold league tonight
I am average player. Every game i play i get to platinum (overall) but when i tried some RTS like AOE and STARCRAFT 2 i was struggling to win matches in silver. Was watching many guides but this one for zerg looks like the best to absorb what u should do as a beginner.
This is really helpful, thanks bro
holy shit this is a real guide
60 drones before 6 minutes is what I was aiming for before, but I think I have a new goal.
Awesome video mate. Cheers 🍻
Great video, helped a lot.
I have this more or less nailed... 4:15 spore etc. What I struggle with is reading my opponents build and scouting effectively. I often find myself with a 3-1-3 zergling, bane, hydra, viper army against 2-2 BC's with hellion tank. Then I slowly trade worse in my rock paper scissors fights until I start losing bases... I know the counter is corrupter, ling, bane in the mid game but always make the transition far to late... I got to master 3 because of my fundamentals but now my lack of APM 120-150 avg and my poor choice of unit compositions is leaving me frustrated... Same thing against skytoss I either try a quick queen hydra infestor push early and fail... Or get ahead in the early to mid game but micro my spellcasters poorly in the late game. The only reason I am in masters is because my Z vs Z has a 93 percent win rate. Now I just feel outskilled and outmatched in my ZvsT and slighly less so in my ZvsP
Fuck playing as zerg. its completely unmanageable.
Drones will never get a raise, and hatchery prices are through the roof.
Great video!!!
Bro its so obvious what You are saying... But i needed that :) Got to diamond from platin in 3 days! thx a lot !
it would be kind, if you could make a little written handout for the important timings etc. you said in your video! :)
thx you bro
amazing
do this again with the production tab up pls
HI Neuro very helpful video thanks !!! - I kinda get tripped up by not having the overlords intime then get slowed, do you have any tips on overlord timings?
Hi do y ou have any videos on turtle tank terrain or protoss mass zealot rush ?
how can I defend these if I focus on economy.. :(
so fucking chad
Meanwhile it takes me 20mins to get 30 zerglings.
facts
what does he mean by rapid fire to make drones?
usually, for skills like Ravenger's "Corrosive Bile", you set its hotkey as an *alternative* to the "Use ability/Select target - AI" setting in "Global/Unit control" (i think). This makes so that you can *hold down* 1 hotkey to *use the ability and select the target at the same time*, thus, "rapidly firing" by shortening the time to use ability (hotkey) and select target (enemy/area). I use "E" for most spells, so i set "E" as alternative hotkey for "choose ability + select target".
What he means with this for drones, i believe, is that he just uses *the same hotkey for "Select Larva" and "morph Drone"* (i do as well).
So for example, if taking the "grid" hotkey layout as example: pressing "Q" on a hatchery/all hatches for "Select Larva" -> pressing "Q" to morph a Drone from it. What then happens if you *just hold down the "Q" hotkey* is: you select all Larva and *immediately* spam-morph all those to drones, because your Keyboard just repeats "QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ".
What about technology?
Cool vid ! What build is this ?
Thank you I'm gaming now the
Man your videos are good. I am using rapidfire but not on my drone production...I am so stupid... obviously it will help with my games......66 worker within 5 minutes....sure but u have mot been harassed yet and it already 7 min game...but anyway GG man, 07: 30 maxed out....mmm that will help me a lot...!! I am trying this out this evening but I am sure I gonna get some harass because everybody at plat diamant level is harassing so it s never perfect macro ...
what are you doing? it is not clear what buttons you press
Could you make a tier list of important things to focus on?
my fastest is 8:50 looks like i need to work on being better
I see neuro occasionally double injecting a hatchery, is there a reason for this or just a mistake?
I believe you can hold shift and que up a second inject.
whats the build order of this?
I have stuck like a returning bronze player max out at 8:30. I cant get into 7:30 yet . Any advice ?
Watch ViBE's zerg bronze to grandmaster first few episodes
How do you get that appearance in the zerg?
Its from a skin pack, when u go to "collection" and select "featured" in your starcraft 2 u can buy skins
You have to be
FAST
The Wannnabe Jesus of zerguleme
What language is your game in? Sounds like Korean...
but if you receive an all in i4 min your death meat xD
In my opinion, since it's a tutorial for beginners, going slow and explaining those quick things ur doing would be better, I can't even see where/when u hatched ur first troops 😕😞
This one while still fundemental/basic is def not for beginners who are brand new to the game. it assumes you know the buildings, units, tech tree, and "flavor" of the race
The first army unit he made was the "zergling". To make zerglings you need the building called "spawning pool"
In this video he made the spawning pool at 2:06 video time 1.1mins in game time.
Spawingpool finishes at 2:51 vid time 2.0min game time and he immediately makes the first zergling at 2:53 vid time 2min1sec game time.
first zergling hatches at 3:10 vid time 2min19sec game time (this zerling happened to hatch on camera , but one typically does not watch their units hatch , just click to grow - click on the map where you want it to go once grown- then move on and just trust its gonna happen.)
I see what you saying, but if he went slow he wouldn't be able to hit the 200 supply at 7.5mins in game time.
I like u
What announcer voice is that?
i think it's the Korean version of "Abathur"
With queens being a great all around unit. Is it possible after the initial lings to just use queens for base defense until the power spike?
Scout with overlords to see what opponent's up too, if they go macro, yes, if they are planning a timing attack (massing troops, no 3rd base), no.
@@waterzoip why does a third base mean they can't ignore it and just mass troops? That's one thing that really throws me off about about starcraft.
@@smnvalex that's why you need to scout into the opponent's base and not just around it. Look for increased production facilities
@@raghavkanwal ok but if he has increased production facilities he can just macro up still instead of make units from them
@@smnvalex true. They can be stealthy and try to throw you off by hiding what they really want. That's why you need to continually scout.
cool, but there are void rays at your door now.. what do you do?
bruh...
Not shocking, but I disagree.
This just sound taxing to the hand. Why is this game so taxing compared to any other on the market?
Starcraft has always been like that since it was released in 1998. You can get used to it with some practice. It's honestly one of the most interesting aspects of this game btw. And Neuro does more actions than an average player since he's a grandmaster (have in mind that if same number of actions are done by both GM and an average, a GM will always make better decisions with them). I've got some protoss videos on my own if u want to see how taxing it is for an average player to keep up with it.
@@projetoventura I'm diamond 5 in zerg and terran and had to give up the game due to hand pain.
@@projetoventura do the math homie; 1 billion key strokes in three hours of playing is not safe.
Just dont spam APM learn to organize your actions and it will all feeel natural..
@@Crogoch16 have fun with your dying game. It's not natural. No other activity in existence requires such demands.
it doesn't work. im fucked up all the time while im making drones. you need army first. dont give bad advices for the noobs.
1. This is an exercise.
2. If you're droning to 3 base saturation without paying attention to what your opponent is doing, then yes you will lose many many times. There is much more to the game, see point 1.
3. Maybe I can say something about the point of the exercise. If you're safe, then you should generally be droning, so this exercise provides a sort of baseline build order (Also note he does make safety lings early too). Probably the best point tho is about using larva immediately as soon as they pop. It makes a large difference in your results.
this is fundamentals.