So I did it and bought one today! Although just the stock alloy rims but will change them out next year! Thx for a great channel I love seeing all your videos!
As a tour mech for forty years plus, at sixty I still ride a lot with my knees Permisson, I just wanted to say I love your appreciation and passion for quality, people like you a getting rare nowadays, keep getting your enthusiasm out , good job…..
Wow what a gorgeous bike you have there! Love the fact that you are giving an honest, 360 degree review from a rider's perspective and that is very helpful to us enthusiasts
LOOK bikes are like Aston Martin DB9.. They make absolutely astonishing goodLOOKing bikes. When you ride that bike in the bunch in the philippines. Your bike is an instant celebrity. Not so many have one, yet so many aspire to have one. 😂
Thanks for this little series. It convinced me to add the 765 to my search for a new bike. I've been riding a Roubaix for the last 11 years and wanted something that felt a little faster, more aggressive, and better in hilly country. I tried the BMC Roadmachine with SRAM Force, it was very solid, capable, etc., but in the end too close to the Roubaix. The 765 (with Rival eTap) on the other hand just wanted me to dig in. I had the shop swap the stock rims with some Enve SES 3.4s and was able to tackle hills up to 12 percent with no real issues. And the straights are so much fun, especially in the more aero position this bike puts you in. Very happy with this bike!
I have a 795 blade and it's really comfortable for a race frame. Love the large head tube. Look make fantastic frames but you don't see many of them about.
Good review but I have a couple of comments on the handling, which differ a bit, and there are a couple of compromises with this bike (as you say). I have a 765 Optimum+ and live in Switzerland, so am lucky to have lots of climbs and descents to enjoy. My main point of reference is a Ridley Helium SLX, my other bike, and have had in recent years a string of other bike including a couple of other Ridleys, Canyon Endurace, an older Look 481SL. First off, this Look 765 is extremely fast and confidence inspiring going downhill, with the caveat that this applies only if the bends aren't too tight. Fast sweeping turns, larger radius hairpins - perfect! - and it's very easy to turn in at speed, find and hold a line, make adjustments. (The Ridley is probably just as fast but requires more concentration). Where it become "interesting" is when the bends tighten up and your speed at turn in drops, then the bike feels very sluggish to turn in and you have to really lean the bike over/push the inside handlebar down and even then it's not great. This is compromise number 1: high-speed cornering, great; low-speed cornering poor. Compromise number 2 is kind of related: when the road kicks up (I'm also "lucky" to have quite a few 20-25% gradient climbs nearby) and your speed drops, it's really hard to steer and requires maximum focus (vs eg the ridley which dances up hills) and this is not due to the heavier bike weight, it's a function of the steering geometry. This is unnerving to say the least, especially if there's traffic/narrow road/drops of the side. A few times I wondered if I was going to hit the deck because I couldn't control the direction and was veering across the road and/or the front wheel felt like it was going to crab. Compromise number 3 is that this is not a bike for fast group riding because of the slower handling, I take the Ridley every time in a group. For the right kind of riding, this is a really great bike - outstanding actually - but I'd be disappointed if it was my only bike for the reasons above.
I think you understood the assignment. It is a proper endurance bike. For long long rides, with confident handling even when tied and the roads are rough. It’s not just a classic race bike with more stack and less reach.
Shame about disconnecting the brakes when changing headsets but its only a psin in the arse for us home mechanics 😂😂 enjoy the new bike hopefully it inspires you to ride it into the ground this year :)
I’m the least technical person in the world but I just love these bikes on aesthetic grounds. I have just bought a 2020 765 Optimum and will ride it until (hopefully) supplies of these catch up with demand. Thanks for taking the time to do this video properly ❤.
I'm glad to see what you have done with your 765. I just took my 765 Gravel RS out for it's first long ride yesterday and am still evaluating it. I put 32mm tires, rather than the 40s, on it but everything else is stock. I like the SRAM rival shifting, and the low gearing for climbs. I look forward to seeing more content on the 765.
I used to ride a scott cr1, it was a race geometry oriented frame, then I switched to a Cannondale synapse, the synapse put a smile on my face it was so smooth on straight line, easy to manage in cross winds etc. But two things I miss with the scott is the liveliness and precision cornering. The synapse had the same understeer issue. The bike feels laggy in the corner. Great build mate, appreciate and applaud the thought process you put in selecting and building this bike.
I own two 2018 Emondas, rim and disc ( for massive summer decents,) and a 2010 Scott CR 1, it's much lighter and smoother and by far the best bike to the extent I'm I'm selling the rim Emonda (it does nothing) and will look for a spare CR 1 frame.
Hi @@rdslmi, a beautiful bike, you will get so much out of it in comfort. I Di2 105 compact & Corima Essencia wheels which I highly recommend, so much so that I’ve ordered another set of Corima for my other bike. Go for it.
@@Paddystyx Thank you for much for the feedback, sounds super exciting! My only issue now is to figure out the Size, i'm right between M and L as always ugh
@@rdslmi as far as I know and I’m no expert but I heard it said if you are in between you should always go for the smaller size as you can always fit a person to a smaller bike but you can’t fit them to a bigger bike or a bike that’s to big. If you haven’t had a bike fit I’d advise to go get one done. That’s what I done as I had made the mistake of buying a bike first and got the bike fit after to find out my bike was to big so ended up having to buy a new bike, hence the Look 765. To be honest I’m kind of glad it did happen in one sense but it was a costly mistake.
Brilliant bike, for me almost perfect, I would have chosen a set of wheels around the 45mm range, I would get more of a snap for the hills. To each Thiers, keep enjoying.
Been waiting for your ride & comment's plus wanted to see how the frame looked with the 55 Ryots. Have changed tack & going for the blade 795 medium with 44 Ryots. Look have one Optimum Black medium frame they had put to one side for me available....was going to be there year display bike they agreed to let me have through my LBS until I confirmed the blade instead.
Nice bike. I just got a Time ADHX for the same reasons as you and love the ride. One thing I noticed is that it's nearly impossible to push the bike around while holding the saddle without the front wheel immediately flopping over. And on very steep climbs (15%+) the front wheel does wander about more easily at slow speeds. Not a big issue, but interesting tidbit about the geometry.
Hey Mapdec, thank you for another great video. I have never tried 1x systems. I am sure the weight savings will benefit and the number of things I need to maintain will decrease, but I don't know if the decrease in the number of gears will affect my performance badly. Can you make a video about 1x systems? Which ratios should we choose, what you like and what you don't like, etc.
Very nice bike. This frame could be the replacement of my Synapse next year. I’ll stay with 2x11 DA, because with grouprides I want the possibility to ride above 50 kmph and ride in the mountains like the Dolomites.
Observation only but the Look carbon frame is said to be one of the best if not the best after that its all about your choices not other peoples i wish you many years of great fun and safety .
Nothing better than seeing all those happy smiles. Great series of vids Paul thanks for sharing loved watching them. Great looking bike optimised for your specific uses. Some bikes keep pulling you back again and again suspect you’ve got one there. Happy rides ….give us an update 3 years down the line, suggest you try it in North Gran Canaria, fantastic endurance rides in the mountains. 😎
This is fascinating. Thank you for info. If there is any advice you can give me I'd really appreciate it. I'm riding a Look 566 105. Bought new in early 2014. Ridden for one or two 50km cycles per week on terrible bumpy and sometimes mucky Irish country roads until early 2019. A back injury keep me off it until July 2024. (It's so great to be back 😊) Before riding again in July, I cleaned it, lubed it, changed the chain and fitted 28mm Continental GP 5000 AS tyres and Vittorria latex tubes on the stock 15mm interal width mavic alu wheels. I'm 183cm and 95kg and run 75psi front and 80psi rear. The bike is comfortable, but I'd like something that was ideally more comfortable and faster, if such a thing exists??? Apart from regular cleaning, chain degrease/lube etc at home, the only part ever changed or serviced on the bike was a cassette I changed (i wanted a 30 rear rather than the 25 stock). Wheels etc have never been touched. There is a creaking from somewhere around the bottom of the frame now, maybe bottom bracket. I'm open to buying a new bike, I've looked online at Specialised Roubaix SL8 Comps (with the hydraulic shock), although some reviews said the rear was quite stiff which would be a real problem. My budget would be €5k. Would a new bike give me more comfort and more speed? Not speed to race, just to enjoy it riding on my solo rides. Any bike recommendations? (I like how upright my look 566 riding position is) Any advice greatly appreciated
Love hearing this, as it’s exactly what I wanted in my Cervelo Caledonia. Almost identical geo except the Caledonia has a 1 degree steeper head tube, and subsequently a few mm less trail. But your expert take backs up my choice… even if you probably got a better whole package with the custom build, and I’m gonna need to tweak and upgrade bits over the years ahead to dial it in!
Far too late now of course but one way of dealing with the front mech hanger when going 1x is to leave it on and fit a chain catcher. Looks fine and adds functionality.
Waiting on my silver Look 765 to be shipped from West coast of US to East Coast here. Picked it over a Synapse. Could not pass up a very reasonable price for a winter sale, 105 Di2 build. It just can’t get here fast enough, even though it is getting very cold, I will still ride it. One nice thing is that Looks are fairly rare over here and people don’t understand their quality and heritage. I do as I owned one 12 years ago and it was a magical carbon bike. Big hopes for this one for this 50+ yo non racer. Hunt had a great sale on some 40 deep carbon wheels but you gave me pause with your take on them. Could you revisit Hunt carbons in the future to see if they are better now? Keep up the honest assessments. Thanks from the yank!😂
I was glad you talked about the understeer. As a short arse rider, we often end up with bikes that have slack head angles but a fork without enough rake and end up with slow handling bikes (and I hate it). It's getting better though. The Look is nice but defo not for me 😀
@@Mapdec I'm not that small, 5ft7. Same head angles but longer rake fork works wonders like Cannondale and spesh do. Toe overlap on a problem if doing a U turn in a road and pedalling at same time 🤔
Yeah, being short sometimes sucks. Definetely in cycling even more than in every day life... Luckily, it is also easy to compensate. Say, you can fit the fork from another bike or even aftermarket one, if there is no weird integration system on the bike.
My '79 model bike has a steep head angle and large toe overlap. Not for in town, but great for high speed cornering. This is with a medium, maybe 53cm frame and 185cm rider. Short top tubes and long stems were the norm then. Very little bar to saddle height difference but massive drop to bars.
Very nice bike. Since you asked, if it was mine, I’d of kept the 2x. I’d also angle the shifters up and back more. Also angle them in more, in line with current trends in the world tour. Doing both of those has made my current bike much more comfortable to ride.
Disagree with the shifter position, it's fine. Don't like them that higher up and back because it limits the comfort when riding on the drop bar position. It's better to have the compromise of both riding positions instead of making one position more comfortable than the other because you spend more time in that position for example when cycling I prefer to riding in the drop. The 1x gearing is fine plus it's optional
@@millsshumps1968 it’s better to have the shifters angled back and in a bit like I said. That’s where most people spend their time but still allow a lower bar height at the stem and drops. Also 2x allows more gear range and granularity between ratios. Mapdec will never admit it though. 1x is for people who either can’t shift a front derailleur properly or get it set up correctly to do so.
Beautiful! 765 Geometry roughly matches the (ugly) Merida Silex gravel bike, but 2 sizes smaller. Quite agreeable geo for endurance riding, especially when I lived on a windy island w/ 50mm wheels. That geo but lighter, with a better BB standard, internal cabling, and being much more aesthetically pleasing is a real winner. Have to agree about cornering though.
I just managed to pick up this exact frame at 50% off. The fact that I bought it is mostly your fault, which I explained to my wife. 😂 Your video description say this is the third video - somehow I can’t seem to find the second video of you building up the bike? Or does this not exist? Concerning the headset, stem - I managed to find out that Fara Cycles out of Norway makes their own intergated stem/bar combos that also work with the Token headset. Now I just have to decide what groupset to put on it. Thanks for being a bad influence and keep doing what youre doing!
@@Mapdec I will go for a 100 km hilly ride in my neighbourhood this year. 103 km and 3.211 heightmeters. If i complete, I will concider the Fred Whitman
Not keen on the T47 BB cups - especially if they're torqued to 40nm. Could be a struggle to remove in a few years. Nice bike though - a good bike for our climate with the mudguard fitment
Thanks for the nice video. Would you make a comparison video between 765 optimum plus and 765 RS gravel? It is bit confusing a endurance bike getting a wider tire clearance and mug guard mounts but the gravel counter does not. I am more inclined towards to Gravel just because it is RS frame but on the paper optimum plus looks more versatile bike due to mud guard and tire clearance option.
If Eddie Merxx had one of those during his career, none of his records would have been tied. It seems so ridiculous that they were constrained to 42/52, and either 13,14,15,16,17, or 13,15,17,19,21. They shifted terribly and the shifters slipped and came out of gear during efforts! On balance, some of those old bikes are still being ridden with adapted newer components. Some of the upgrades I wouldn't consider riding without.
I see pros lean the bike in like a motorcycle, I do this on a mountain bike. they lean bike keep the grip, hit the apex, while commentator is going crazy, they steer by leaning the bike, which is what slack head angle is made for, steep is like driving a bus as Chris Porter(Geometron) says. not sure how much the offset of the wheel in relation to the steering axis. I've never tried a road bike. 11:01 I had a mountain bike that did that, 2014 Fuel EX, it was horrible.
I'm considering this bike for a winter/rain bike. It has fender mounts and Look says it's only compatible with Look's fenders. Can you confirm this and do you have a set that you can show what they look like and how they mount on? Thanks.
@Mapdec Thank you for the reply. When I questioned them on Strava and their Facebook page, they said, "Yes, and to contact my dealer". But if they don't have them at this point, I'm wondering if I could use something like an SKS or Planet Bike fender.
I ordered my frameset today. Apparently the distributor in Switzerland only has one per size in stock. Looks like they’re in high demand. Anyway, wondering if I could get that neat cable routing using a Deda Superbox stem…
This may sound heretical, but what about replacing the Ryots with Ryot 33s? Lighter, but strong enough for gravel and cross ( and therefore extended trips on our lanes). Might give you the uphill zip you’re looking for and be less affected by the wind. I’ll get me coat…..
Found your video's searching for anything on the FFWD ryots. Wouldnt the 44's be more of a fit? deep enough to get some aero gains, but still really agile on climbs?
Really enjoying all your videos but especially the ones focusing on Time and Look, you are really doing a lot for those brands. Have you any updates on the 765 planned and will you be riding it through the winter, with mudguards?? I'm seriously considering this for a winer ride or is it too good to be dragged through the crud of the English roads? Keep up the good work!!
Wow the head angle is less than my two late-noughties mountain bikes I've not long moved on from and sold! I'm considering a Mason Definition or Revolution now for what little road riding I now do. I find my CAAD9 a bit scary downhill now I'm not riding it enough to stay tuned into it.
Great Channel and Video! Last year I bought the Canyon Endurace and changed the Wheelset to those FFWD 55 Riot... im a 65 year old /young rider.. love the bike but would like to build up a Custom look Frame with a more adaptable cockpit higher stack... is this the Frame for me ? What do you think?
I really love the Look bikes and I'm getting a new bike but I can't afford a Time adhx and the 765 seems just a bit too slack to my taste so I think Cervelo Aspero might just scratch the itch
Can you run dura ace mechanical shifters with this frame or is it electronic only? im still not a convert to electronic yet. i like the simplicity of cable actuated shifting and its easy to tweak when out and about
What 1x gear ratio do you have? Have a similar idea for my build. Wonder if 10-44 and 48 chainrings are enough for climbing (up to 18%). Currently riding 11-30 and 50-34. P.S. Your reviews on bike geometry and handling are nothing like on the rest of the internet 👍🏻
Thank you. This is 44t on 10-42 cassette. This is good for most things, but I will go down to 42t on the front for the summer of Lake District riding. The hills are upto 30% and relentless 😂. With this set up I spin out at about 48kph. Fast enough for me. I’ve stopped peddling beyond that.
Hi Paul, Congrats on the build, the NEW 765 paint options are not that exciting, but your's LOOKs great built up. Just wondering what size bike you purchased and how tall you are?
Great videos. I have a frame on order… should be road ready for next month. Does the LS3 stem allow for a specific type of direct mount for your Garmin?
Great review as always! I see you went from Cannondale to Look, which is what I'm planning to do as well! Although I'm not really sure about the size - I have CAADX size 56 now and I'm not sure whether to go for M or L sized 765. Which one do you think would be better? I've ridden M-sized Canyon Endurace for a week and it felt relatively good (even though the geometry was quite off)
Excellent video, thanks a lot. What a gorgeous bike! This frame would be awesome here in the Swiss alps. What made you choose the frame size L? I’m 184cm with an inseam of 86cm. When I look at the manufacturer’s recommendation, I normally find myself choosing one size smaller. What would you recommend?
At 170 with 82 inseam I can't see why would you not get an L size: bad lower back mobility? Downsizing is something people like me with short torso normally do.
With the internal cables coming out of the headset like that, how is it for travel and general removing the bar? Also, would attaching clip on aero bars be easy with that setup?
This stem is easy to remove and position for packing into a box. You can add some cable slack to allow for clip ons easily enough. How much would depend on the handlebar design. These are fully external, but with semi internal routed bars you wouldn’t have to. It’s a good shout actually. The front geometry is not dissimilar to a TT bike.
I've been riding a 2022 Domane with recently added FFWD 44 wheels. I like the bike, but have an opportunity for a Look 765 Optimum Plus. With the Domane and 765 being similar, any thoughts on swapping for the Look? I've always wanted one and the additional tire clearance would be great as well.
I don’t see the Domane and 765 as similar at all. The Domane is a mildly relaxed race geo with extra height and widgets. The 765 is as described in this video. They are very different bikes that interpret the word ‘endurance’ in different ways.
@@Gigi26500 that will depend on your tyre and wheel choice, and your flexibility more than the difference in frame. If you are comfortable in race geometry and want race Geo the Time is the obvious choice. If you want stable, endurance geometry but with a racier fit than the LOOK 765 wins. If you want stable wheelbase with agile stearing and a higher stack height for reduced flexibility the AdHX would be better. Maybe give us a call.
I have one about a year. Very disappointed with it bb rear hub and free wheel wrecked after 700km. Poor service from cycle shop from where I bought it in Ireland Ireland
This is what I was looking for! I wish I could have a fast and sharp race bike. But to be honest, roads around Northampton here in the UK are very rough and terrible for a race bike. Your bike choice seems perfect for all day in the saddle. I really appreciate you took your time to do this video and go through everything in a detail. Nobody told me this when I bought my bike a few years ago. Thank you a lot🙏 I have now Trek Checkpoint ALR 5 2019 with Mavic Ksyrium wheels and it feels a bit sluggish. (probably because of the wheels). I'm thinking if I should upgrade it with some parts and new wheels or just get a new better bike. Hard to say. Looking for something similar to yours. I'm just a bit limited with my 97kgs to find any decent wheels. Do you think is a good idea to upgrade? Thank you
Can you guys tell me if I can sqeeze some 35 mm Slicks without fenders into the Look 765? I know Look say 34 mm but maybe that's conservative? I would love to use it as an All Road Bike.
Good question. With slacker angles like this your front wheel generally wants to keep straight. Until the point where you put too much steering input in and the wheel wants to turn sharper. It’s something you would probably only feel at slow manoeuvring speeds. The only time it really notices to me in navigating cycle way barriers.
@@Mapdec cool thanks. I must be a bit more conscious of this next time I do a ride, now on to my 5th bike and never noticed it with any of the old ones or current
Love the bike Paul, also your approach to the build. Interesting your comments on understeer/oversteer as I had previously never considered this in respect to road bikes, but I think I also experience this on my winter bike (Focus Paralane), I did take that bike to the Alps last year and to be fair it did a fine job of coping with the descents if a little slow on turn in. I like the comparisons to cars too, out of interest where would you see a BMC Roadmachine? BMW M3 perhaps?
Lol someone asked if my Look 765 was a Amazon bike the other day.. needless to say I was heartbroken inside but politely laughed and said yep
So I did it and bought one today! Although just the stock alloy rims but will change them out next year! Thx for a great channel I love seeing all your videos!
As a tour mech for forty years plus, at sixty I still ride a lot with my knees Permisson, I just wanted to say I love your appreciation and passion for quality, people like you a getting rare nowadays, keep getting your enthusiasm out , good job…..
Thank you Paul
Lookk k optimumm😅@@Mapdec
Wow what a gorgeous bike you have there! Love the fact that you are giving an honest, 360 degree review from a rider's perspective and that is very helpful to us enthusiasts
Thank you Armando
Ah, what a lovely weekend: getting in the zone minding own business. Yet still able to make a video for us👍
I’m really enjoying the process of sharing and reading the feedback.
LOOK bikes are like Aston Martin DB9.. They make absolutely astonishing goodLOOKing bikes.
When you ride that bike in the bunch in the philippines. Your bike is an instant celebrity. Not so many have one, yet so many aspire to have one. 😂
Thanks for this little series. It convinced me to add the 765 to my search for a new bike. I've been riding a Roubaix for the last 11 years and wanted something that felt a little faster, more aggressive, and better in hilly country. I tried the BMC Roadmachine with SRAM Force, it was very solid, capable, etc., but in the end too close to the Roubaix. The 765 (with Rival eTap) on the other hand just wanted me to dig in. I had the shop swap the stock rims with some Enve SES 3.4s and was able to tackle hills up to 12 percent with no real issues. And the straights are so much fun, especially in the more aero position this bike puts you in. Very happy with this bike!
Nice. 👍
I have a 795 blade and it's really comfortable for a race frame. Love the large head tube. Look make fantastic frames but you don't see many of them about.
I know. I was very tempted by a blade. My logic mind won over and realised this 765 is more suited to what and where I ride.
Good review but I have a couple of comments on the handling, which differ a bit, and there are a couple of compromises with this bike (as you say). I have a 765 Optimum+ and live in Switzerland, so am lucky to have lots of climbs and descents to enjoy. My main point of reference is a Ridley Helium SLX, my other bike, and have had in recent years a string of other bike including a couple of other Ridleys, Canyon Endurace, an older Look 481SL. First off, this Look 765 is extremely fast and confidence inspiring going downhill, with the caveat that this applies only if the bends aren't too tight. Fast sweeping turns, larger radius hairpins - perfect! - and it's very easy to turn in at speed, find and hold a line, make adjustments. (The Ridley is probably just as fast but requires more concentration). Where it become "interesting" is when the bends tighten up and your speed at turn in drops, then the bike feels very sluggish to turn in and you have to really lean the bike over/push the inside handlebar down and even then it's not great. This is compromise number 1: high-speed cornering, great; low-speed cornering poor. Compromise number 2 is kind of related: when the road kicks up (I'm also "lucky" to have quite a few 20-25% gradient climbs nearby) and your speed drops, it's really hard to steer and requires maximum focus (vs eg the ridley which dances up hills) and this is not due to the heavier bike weight, it's a function of the steering geometry. This is unnerving to say the least, especially if there's traffic/narrow road/drops of the side. A few times I wondered if I was going to hit the deck because I couldn't control the direction and was veering across the road and/or the front wheel felt like it was going to crab. Compromise number 3 is that this is not a bike for fast group riding because of the slower handling, I take the Ridley every time in a group. For the right kind of riding, this is a really great bike - outstanding actually - but I'd be disappointed if it was my only bike for the reasons above.
I think you understood the assignment. It is a proper endurance bike. For long long rides, with confident handling even when tied and the roads are rough. It’s not just a classic race bike with more stack and less reach.
Shame about disconnecting the brakes when changing headsets but its only a psin in the arse for us home mechanics 😂😂 enjoy the new bike hopefully it inspires you to ride it into the ground this year :)
I’m the least technical person in the world but I just love these bikes on aesthetic grounds. I have just bought a 2020 765 Optimum and will ride it until (hopefully) supplies of these catch up with demand. Thanks for taking the time to do this video properly ❤.
Thank you
I'm glad to see what you have done with your 765. I just took my 765 Gravel RS out for it's first long ride yesterday and am still evaluating it. I put 32mm tires, rather than the 40s, on it but everything else is stock. I like the SRAM rival shifting, and the low gearing for climbs. I look forward to seeing more content on the 765.
Thanks Ralph.
Really lovely looking bike. As an engineer I have come to accept that if it looks good it is good! This is one good looking bicycle!
Thank you.
Lovely bicycle.
Good to see another member of the 1x team;)
It’s a chill club
@@Mapdec what is the size of the front chainring?
I used to ride a scott cr1, it was a race geometry oriented frame, then I switched to a Cannondale synapse, the synapse put a smile on my face it was so smooth on straight line, easy to manage in cross winds etc. But two things I miss with the scott is the liveliness and precision cornering. The synapse had the same understeer issue. The bike feels laggy in the corner. Great build mate, appreciate and applaud the thought process you put in selecting and building this bike.
Thanks.
@ Cycling Choice > appreciate the input - currently on a Synapse & looking for that quicker steering you've mentioned.
I own two 2018 Emondas, rim and disc ( for massive summer decents,) and a 2010 Scott CR 1, it's much lighter and smoother and by far the best bike to the extent I'm I'm selling the rim Emonda (it does nothing) and will look for a spare CR 1 frame.
@@paulround4691 yeah the cr1 is a great frame set, you can also look at the Scott Addict for the spare bike.
Delighted to hear your feedback.
I just purchased last year’s model 765 Optimum+. Now I need to get it built.
Nice.
Hello! I'm looking to but an optimum plus as well. How did you end up liking it and how did you build it ?
Chers!
Hi @@rdslmi, a beautiful bike, you will get so much out of it in comfort. I Di2 105 compact & Corima Essencia wheels which I highly recommend, so much so that I’ve ordered another set of Corima for my other bike. Go for it.
@@Paddystyx Thank you for much for the feedback, sounds super exciting! My only issue now is to figure out the Size, i'm right between M and L as always ugh
@@rdslmi as far as I know and I’m no expert but I heard it said if you are in between you should always go for the smaller size as you can always fit a person to a smaller bike but you can’t fit them to a bigger bike or a bike that’s to big. If you haven’t had a bike fit I’d advise to go get one done. That’s what I done as I had made the mistake of buying a bike first and got the bike fit after to find out my bike was to big so ended up having to buy a new bike, hence the Look 765. To be honest I’m kind of glad it did happen in one sense but it was a costly mistake.
LOOK at that beauty
Funny, the geometry is similar to a 90’s cross country racing mountain bike!
Congratulations on build
Thank you!
This is super nice! Congrats!
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Brilliant bike, for me almost perfect, I would have chosen a set of wheels around the 45mm range, I would get more of a snap for the hills. To each Thiers, keep enjoying.
For sure. I covered in the previous vid that the 44mm would be a better choice, but price, curiosity and availability swayed me to the 55mm.
was wondering about this build after the previous video where you did a rundown of the frame. Thanks for the update and what a great bike!
The weather never gave me a chance to film outside like I wanted. I think this did ok though. Shame I couldn’t get any descending footage in
Been waiting for your ride & comment's plus wanted to see how the frame looked with the 55 Ryots.
Have changed tack & going for the blade 795 medium with 44 Ryots.
Look have one Optimum Black medium frame they had put to one side for me available....was going to be there year display bike they agreed to let me have through my LBS until I confirmed the blade instead.
Blade is awesome. I was close to getting one. My road bike is much more for cruising these days and MTB for fun in the hills.
Nice bike. I just got a Time ADHX for the same reasons as you and love the ride. One thing I noticed is that it's nearly impossible to push the bike around while holding the saddle without the front wheel immediately flopping over. And on very steep climbs (15%+) the front wheel does wander about more easily at slow speeds. Not a big issue, but interesting tidbit about the geometry.
Yeah. I guess I am used to this from MTB.
BMC Roadmachine exactly the same.
Worth the wait. Looks very nice 👍
Hey Mapdec, thank you for another great video.
I have never tried 1x systems. I am sure the weight savings will benefit and the number of things I need to maintain will decrease, but I don't know if the decrease in the number of gears will affect my performance badly. Can you make a video about 1x systems? Which ratios should we choose, what you like and what you don't like, etc.
There is a video about 1x. It doesn’t really save weight. For me it’s just about the silence and simplicity.
Very nice bike.
This frame could be the replacement of my Synapse next year.
I’ll stay with 2x11 DA, because with grouprides I want the possibility to ride above 50 kmph and ride in the mountains like the Dolomites.
At 50kph I ain’t peddling anymore 😂
Observation only but the Look carbon frame is said to be one of the best if not the best after that its all about your choices not other peoples i wish you many years of great fun and safety .
Thanks David. Did you see the vid of the naked frame up close and personal?
@@Mapdec no i didn't sorry i will go looking now Mapdec Thank you.
Nothing better than seeing all those happy smiles. Great series of vids Paul thanks for sharing loved watching them. Great looking bike optimised for your specific uses. Some bikes keep pulling you back again and again suspect you’ve got one there. Happy rides ….give us an update 3 years down the line, suggest you try it in North Gran Canaria, fantastic endurance rides in the mountains. 😎
Love it there. So sunny 😎
Your bike looks amazing. Mine is scheduled to arrive within weeks. Thinking of pairing it with a set of Reserve 40/44 😊.
Cool. Those wheels would be a much better depth choice than mine.
Just wanted to give you an update. Got my bike last week and I’m very pleasantly surprised with it. Thanks again for the review.
That’s Awesome Peter.
My 2017 Ridely Fenix SL is a endurance road bike that is very comfortable but has also won a stage of the giro with Andre Greipel (2015)
The actual one? 😳
This is fascinating. Thank you for info. If there is any advice you can give me I'd really appreciate it.
I'm riding a Look 566 105. Bought new in early 2014. Ridden for one or two 50km cycles per week on terrible bumpy and sometimes mucky Irish country roads until early 2019. A back injury keep me off it until July 2024. (It's so great to be back 😊)
Before riding again in July, I cleaned it, lubed it, changed the chain and fitted 28mm Continental GP 5000 AS tyres and Vittorria latex tubes on the stock 15mm interal width mavic alu wheels. I'm 183cm and 95kg and run 75psi front and 80psi rear.
The bike is comfortable, but I'd like something that was ideally more comfortable and faster, if such a thing exists???
Apart from regular cleaning, chain degrease/lube etc at home, the only part ever changed or serviced on the bike was a cassette I changed (i wanted a 30 rear rather than the 25 stock). Wheels etc have never been touched.
There is a creaking from somewhere around the bottom of the frame now, maybe bottom bracket.
I'm open to buying a new bike, I've looked online at Specialised Roubaix SL8 Comps (with the hydraulic shock), although some reviews said the rear was quite stiff which would be a real problem. My budget would be €5k.
Would a new bike give me more comfort and more speed? Not speed to race, just to enjoy it riding on my solo rides.
Any bike recommendations? (I like how upright my look 566 riding position is)
Any advice greatly appreciated
Nice looking bike, the green-blue colour looks even better I think, but appears to be hens teeth rare.
Yes. It seems LOOK have produced a bike a lot of folk were waiting for.
It LOOKs great!
Thank you.
Love hearing this, as it’s exactly what I wanted in my Cervelo Caledonia. Almost identical geo except the Caledonia has a 1 degree steeper head tube, and subsequently a few mm less trail. But your expert take backs up my choice… even if you probably got a better whole package with the custom build, and I’m gonna need to tweak and upgrade bits over the years ahead to dial it in!
Nice !
Far too late now of course but one way of dealing with the front mech hanger when going 1x is to leave it on and fit a chain catcher. Looks fine and adds functionality.
Nice idea. It wanted it naked. I have finished sanding it now and it’s invisible 🫥
I'm glad you like your bike. I called Andy at Zyro and they can't get frames this year or next year! I didn't ask why. Can't find any online either.
I know. They have literally all sold! In this economy 😳
Great looking ride!! We shared the same philosophy on what an endurance road bike geometry should be. Best wishes with it!!
Thanks Mario
A stunning bike😍
Thank you.
Oh great now I want one😂, nice bike Paul, might have to put on my next next Xmas list build
Shipping in April 2024 now. Seems like Santa took quite a few orders.
Waiting on my silver Look 765 to be shipped from West coast of US to East Coast here. Picked it over a Synapse. Could not pass up a very reasonable price for a winter sale, 105 Di2 build. It just can’t get here fast enough, even though it is getting very cold, I will still ride it. One nice thing is that Looks are fairly rare over here and people don’t understand their quality and heritage. I do as I owned one 12 years ago and it was a magical carbon bike. Big hopes for this one for this 50+ yo non racer.
Hunt had a great sale on some 40 deep carbon wheels but you gave me pause with your take on them. Could you revisit Hunt carbons in the future to see if they are better now? Keep up the honest assessments. Thanks from the yank!😂
I was glad you talked about the understeer. As a short arse rider, we often end up with bikes that have slack head angles but a fork without enough rake and end up with slow handling bikes (and I hate it). It's getting better though. The Look is nice but defo not for me 😀
Or steep angles and lethal toe overlap. It’s a real problem. 650c wheels are really the best answer, but, but but ….
@@Mapdec I'm not that small, 5ft7. Same head angles but longer rake fork works wonders like Cannondale and spesh do. Toe overlap on a problem if doing a U turn in a road and pedalling at same time 🤔
Yeah, being short sometimes sucks. Definetely in cycling even more than in every day life... Luckily, it is also easy to compensate. Say, you can fit the fork from another bike or even aftermarket one, if there is no weird integration system on the bike.
My '79 model bike has a steep head angle and large toe overlap. Not for in town, but great for high speed cornering. This is with a medium, maybe 53cm frame and 185cm rider. Short top tubes and long stems were the norm then. Very little bar to saddle height difference but massive drop to bars.
Looks great enjoy 👍
Thank you 👍
Very nice bike. Since you asked, if it was mine, I’d of kept the 2x. I’d also angle the shifters up and back more. Also angle them in more, in line with current trends in the world tour. Doing both of those has made my current bike much more comfortable to ride.
Cool. I like the height, might try a little toe in on the levers.
Disagree with the shifter position, it's fine. Don't like them that higher up and back because it limits the comfort when riding on the drop bar position. It's better to have the compromise of both riding positions instead of making one position more comfortable than the other because you spend more time in that position for example when cycling I prefer to riding in the drop.
The 1x gearing is fine plus it's optional
@@millsshumps1968 it’s better to have the shifters angled back and in a bit like I said. That’s where most people spend their time but still allow a lower bar height at the stem and drops. Also 2x allows more gear range and granularity between ratios. Mapdec will never admit it though. 1x is for people who either can’t shift a front derailleur properly or get it set up correctly to do so.
Beautiful! 765 Geometry roughly matches the (ugly) Merida Silex gravel bike, but 2 sizes smaller. Quite agreeable geo for endurance riding, especially when I lived on a windy island w/ 50mm wheels. That geo but lighter, with a better BB standard, internal cabling, and being much more aesthetically pleasing is a real winner. Have to agree about cornering though.
Thank you.
I just managed to pick up this exact frame at 50% off. The fact that I bought it is mostly your fault, which I explained to my wife. 😂 Your video description say this is the third video - somehow I can’t seem to find the second video of you building up the bike? Or does this not exist?
Concerning the headset, stem - I managed to find out that Fara Cycles out of Norway makes their own intergated stem/bar combos that also work with the Token headset. Now I just have to decide what groupset to put on it. Thanks for being a bad influence and keep doing what youre doing!
I would love to come to Lake District for a ride
It’s nice when the sun is out. It happens at least a couple of times each summer
@@Mapdec I will go for a 100 km hilly ride in my neighbourhood this year. 103 km and 3.211 heightmeters. If i complete, I will concider the Fred Whitman
Not keen on the T47 BB cups - especially if they're torqued to 40nm. Could be a struggle to remove in a few years. Nice bike though - a good bike for our climate with the mudguard fitment
Guess we will see. There is more surface area, but the threads were well prepared and we used a quality calcium sultanate construction grease.
Great review and explanation. Now I got a other bike to consider... ;)
Nice video buddy
Thanks Scott.
Thanks for the nice video. Would you make a comparison video between 765 optimum plus and 765 RS gravel? It is bit confusing a endurance bike getting a wider tire clearance and mug guard mounts but the gravel counter does not. I am more inclined towards to Gravel just because it is RS frame but on the paper optimum plus looks more versatile bike due to mud guard and tire clearance option.
T47 with GXP! Alll makes sense now.
It’s probably only a few Quarq owners still holding onto GXP now. 😂
If Eddie Merxx had one of those during his career, none of his records would have been tied. It seems so ridiculous that they were constrained to 42/52, and either 13,14,15,16,17, or 13,15,17,19,21. They shifted terribly and the shifters slipped and came out of gear during efforts! On balance, some of those old bikes are still being ridden with adapted newer components. Some of the upgrades I wouldn't consider riding without.
I see pros lean the bike in like a motorcycle, I do this on a mountain bike. they lean bike keep the grip, hit the apex, while commentator is going crazy, they steer by leaning the bike, which is what slack head angle is made for, steep is like driving a bus as Chris Porter(Geometron) says. not sure how much the offset of the wheel in relation to the steering axis.
I've never tried a road bike.
11:01 I had a mountain bike that did that, 2014 Fuel EX, it was horrible.
Nice bike 👍
I can't help but drool
Enjoy 😉
Thanks Mike.
great review
Thank you
Really nice bike and great video and content.
Thank you Alex.
I'm considering this bike for a winter/rain bike. It has fender mounts and Look says it's only compatible with Look's fenders. Can you confirm this and do you have a set that you can show what they look like and how they mount on? Thanks.
I am getting a vid together on this. Look have not released mud guards yet.
@Mapdec Thank you for the reply. When I questioned them on Strava and their Facebook page, they said, "Yes, and to contact my dealer". But if they don't have them at this point, I'm wondering if I could use something like an SKS or Planet Bike fender.
I ordered my frameset today. Apparently the distributor in Switzerland only has one per size in stock. Looks like they’re in high demand. Anyway, wondering if I could get that neat cable routing using a Deda Superbox stem…
Might need to think about the spacers a big.
This may sound heretical, but what about replacing the Ryots with Ryot 33s? Lighter, but strong enough for gravel and cross ( and therefore extended trips on our lanes). Might give you the uphill zip you’re looking for and be less affected by the wind. I’ll get me coat…..
Hey Steve. You are right. I don’t miss the ‘zip’ it’s just the consequence of the choice.
Throw in a pair of Conti GP 5000 AS TR, 35mm! 🥰 and please let us know how it’s like that
Maybe in the winter
i saw the price of the frameset and im genuinely blown away
Found your video's searching for anything on the FFWD ryots. Wouldnt the 44's be more of a fit? deep enough to get some aero gains, but still really agile on climbs?
We have a video on the Ryots. I just like the momentum from deep rims.
Really enjoying all your videos but especially the ones focusing on Time and Look, you are really doing a lot for those brands. Have you any updates on the 765 planned and will you be riding it through the winter, with mudguards?? I'm seriously considering this for a winer ride or is it too good to be dragged through the crud of the English roads? Keep up the good work!!
Thanks. Yes. We have a couple of builds in the pipeline and I have some mudguards to fit to mine.
Bike looks great Thought of a chain catcher ?
Hasn’t crossed my mind
Wow the head angle is less than my two late-noughties mountain bikes I've not long moved on from and sold!
I'm considering a Mason Definition or Revolution now for what little road riding I now do. I find my CAAD9 a bit scary downhill now I'm not riding it enough to stay tuned into it.
That’s progress. I had a CAAD9 they were rapid. Terrifying on anything steep but awesome on a circuit.
Great Channel and Video! Last year I bought the Canyon Endurace and changed the Wheelset to those FFWD 55 Riot... im a 65 year old /young rider.. love the bike but would like to build up a Custom look Frame with a more adaptable cockpit higher stack... is this the Frame for me ? What do you think?
Drop us a message in the website and let’s talk.
I really love the Look bikes and I'm getting a new bike but I can't afford a Time adhx and the 765 seems just a bit too slack to my taste so I think Cervelo Aspero might just scratch the itch
The 785 is about to drop.
@@Mapdec785 lacks the proper tire clearance that I need here to clear the shitty roads and hard pack gravel sections on my routes
Where did you buy it? It doesn't seem to be in stock in the UK.
We are a dealer, but this frame only is out of stock now. Give us a call.
Can you run dura ace mechanical shifters with this frame or is it electronic only? im still not a convert to electronic yet. i like the simplicity of cable actuated shifting and its easy to tweak when out and about
Yep. I am running mechanical
How does this compare to the 785 huez? Been riding that frame for 3 years now. Absolutely love it
The 785 is more of a dance on the pedals climbing bike. This 765 is more of a maintain momentum on any gradient and surface.
Lovely bike @Mapdec . So I am pretty sure you also looked at the Time ADHX. What tipped you towards the 765?
The Geo.
What is the main difference(s) between the Optimum+ and their Gravel RS?
Tyre clearance, frame mounts and external cables at the headset
Bought Endurance version (Emonda SLR H2) aswell; bonus: i can run it slammed. 👍🏻
Always looks good.
What 1x gear ratio do you have?
Have a similar idea for my build.
Wonder if 10-44 and 48 chainrings are enough for climbing (up to 18%).
Currently riding 11-30 and 50-34.
P.S. Your reviews on bike geometry and handling are nothing like on the rest of the internet 👍🏻
Thank you. This is 44t on 10-42 cassette. This is good for most things, but I will go down to 42t on the front for the summer of Lake District riding. The hills are upto 30% and relentless 😂. With this set up I spin out at about 48kph. Fast enough for me. I’ve stopped peddling beyond that.
Hi Paul, Congrats on the build, the NEW 765 paint options are not that exciting, but your's LOOKs great built up. Just wondering what size bike you purchased and how tall you are?
This is a size L with 110 stem. I’m 182cm
@@Mapdec Thank's Mate 🙂
Great videos. I have a frame on order… should be road ready for next month. Does the LS3 stem allow for a specific type of direct mount for your Garmin?
I am trying to get an answer on that. It looks like it will, maybe the spech system.
Hi… any updates to the stem mounts? Thanks in advance!
Great review as always! I see you went from Cannondale to Look, which is what I'm planning to do as well! Although I'm not really sure about the size - I have CAADX size 56 now and I'm not sure whether to go for M or L sized 765. Which one do you think would be better? I've ridden M-sized Canyon Endurace for a week and it felt relatively good (even though the geometry was quite off)
Mine was a 56 SuperX. I am 182cm. This frame size is perfect.
Excellent video, thanks a lot. What a gorgeous bike! This frame would be awesome here in the Swiss alps. What made you choose the frame size L? I’m 184cm with an inseam of 86cm. When I look at the manufacturer’s recommendation, I normally find myself choosing one size smaller. What would you recommend?
At 170 with 82 inseam I can't see why would you not get an L size: bad lower back mobility? Downsizing is something people like me with short torso normally do.
Really? I can’t imagine wanting this any smaller.
Nice looking bike, what is the weight in this combination?
I can’t say I ever weighed this one. It’s not important for this type of build.
With the internal cables coming out of the headset like that, how is it for travel and general removing the bar?
Also, would attaching clip on aero bars be easy with that setup?
This stem is easy to remove and position for packing into a box. You can add some cable slack to allow for clip ons easily enough. How much would depend on the handlebar design. These are fully external, but with semi internal routed bars you wouldn’t have to. It’s a good shout actually. The front geometry is not dissimilar to a TT bike.
@@Mapdec great. This looks like a great option as a TCR or Trans Am bike
@@Mapdec is it weird that I wanna build one up with GRX Di2? Or at least with those hoods
@@Mapdec another question. Do you think it can fit a 35 mm tire?
Yeah 35s would be cool. I’m on 30 and there is at least 8mm clearance both side
I've been riding a 2022 Domane with recently added FFWD 44 wheels. I like the bike, but have an opportunity for a Look 765 Optimum Plus. With the Domane and 765 being similar, any thoughts on swapping for the Look? I've always wanted one and the additional tire clearance would be great as well.
I don’t see the Domane and 765 as similar at all. The Domane is a mildly relaxed race geo with extra height and widgets. The 765 is as described in this video. They are very different bikes that interpret the word ‘endurance’ in different ways.
What is the largest tire size it would accomodate? Would it work with 650b wheels and a large volume tire?
That’s kind of what the 765 gravel RS is for.
Shouldn’t that dale have a 5mm spacer above the top cap?
No. Si top cap. It’s a Cannondale thing.
What be the car equivalent to my Scott Addict? Would u prefer a 52mm or a 38mm carbon wheelset on an endurance road bike?
Bit of a range there. I like deeper wheels on endurace, esp if it’s rolling terrain. For big hills the shallower
Very nice sir. Look 586 rider here. What is your height of interest and what size frame is that ? Thanks J.
182cm
CAN i ask you between this look and Time alpes d’huez 21 what is the better in term of geometry and absorption/feel ride?
They are too different to declare one better than the other. The look is long and slack. The Adh is true race Geo.
@@Mapdec and in term of confort? Thx for all your video and for your expert point of view!
@@Gigi26500 that will depend on your tyre and wheel choice, and your flexibility more than the difference in frame. If you are comfortable in race geometry and want race Geo the Time is the obvious choice. If you want stable, endurance geometry but with a racier fit than the LOOK 765 wins. If you want stable wheelbase with agile stearing and a higher stack height for reduced flexibility the AdHX would be better. Maybe give us a call.
I have one about a year. Very disappointed with it bb rear hub and free wheel wrecked after 700km. Poor service from cycle shop from where I bought it in Ireland Ireland
That’s a real shame that an unrelated rear hub spoiled your ride of a wicked bike.
I had a synapse hi mod 56 a few years ago. Is the geometry of the Look 765 similar??
No. This is slacker.
If you wanted lighter wheels, which ones would you take?
I would probabaly build them.
What other bikes fit this "in between" category you spoke of?
Remind me, what part of the vid?
This is what I was looking for! I wish I could have a fast and sharp race bike. But to be honest, roads around Northampton here in the UK are very rough and terrible for a race bike. Your bike choice seems perfect for all day in the saddle. I really appreciate you took your time to do this video and go through everything in a detail. Nobody told me this when I bought my bike a few years ago. Thank you a lot🙏 I have now Trek Checkpoint ALR 5 2019 with Mavic Ksyrium wheels and it feels a bit sluggish. (probably because of the wheels). I'm thinking if I should upgrade it with some parts and new wheels or just get a new better bike. Hard to say. Looking for something similar to yours. I'm just a bit limited with my 97kgs to find any decent wheels. Do you think is a good idea to upgrade? Thank you
The trek checkpoint is a really versatile bike. Wheels are ok.
I bought the frameset but im missing the spacer under the stem. Where can I order it? I live in the netherlands
Just contact your dealer.
Very nice!
Are those tyres 28mm tubeless?
30, tubeless 68psi
I am about to get one, but still undecided whether 28 or 30mm tyres. Any thoughts about 28mm?
Depends a bit on the width of your wheel. If your wheels will accommodate it, go for 30mm.
What size is the frame and whats the seat height from the BB? I’m looking at one of these and want to check how much seat post will be exposed
It’s. large with 20cm from frame to rails.
What was the total cost of the build?👌
Hard to say Tom as I reused a lot of parts from my old bike.
Can you guys tell me if I can sqeeze some 35 mm Slicks without fenders into the Look 765? I know Look say 34 mm but maybe that's conservative? I would love to use it as an All Road Bike.
Yeah. 35 fits. As long as it’s a stiff wheel.
Whats the Tire clearance on this one? Can you use this as a Gravel bike with fatter tires like 38mm?
It’s defo a road bike. They do a more robust gravel version.
How does the geometry of this bike compare to the Time ADHX ?
It is very different. There is a good vid on that if you keep searching.
Wait how does a bike under/oversteer?
Good question. With slacker angles like this your front wheel generally wants to keep straight. Until the point where you put too much steering input in and the wheel wants to turn sharper. It’s something you would probably only feel at slow manoeuvring speeds. The only time it really notices to me in navigating cycle way barriers.
@@Mapdec cool thanks. I must be a bit more conscious of this next time I do a ride, now on to my 5th bike and never noticed it with any of the old ones or current
Love the bike Paul, also your approach to the build. Interesting your comments on understeer/oversteer as I had previously never considered this in respect to road bikes, but I think I also experience this on my winter bike (Focus Paralane), I did take that bike to the Alps last year and to be fair it did a fine job of coping with the descents if a little slow on turn in.
I like the comparisons to cars too, out of interest where would you see a BMC Roadmachine? BMW M3 perhaps?
Thanks David. I’m not risking upsetting any M3 drivers 😂