btw, big passion in this video, fells like u really loved the game and as many old ppl from the live server, cries its decandence, really sad for such a great game wich feels so abandoned by its creators.
wow JonJonPoPong still playing bns to this day u probs dont remember who i am but you helped me out quite a bit way back in 2018 with my weak gunslinger haha 🙏
I appreciate the video I was in the process of downloading BnS and went ahead and stopped it. I had fond memories of this game from when it first came out but looks like they've turned into a milk the players thing. I'll attempt lost ark instead.
The gear treadmill must keep going. Most time efficient way to progress in this game: not playing and just waiting for the catch-up events to condense years of grinding into three days.
So should i play? I just love the melee combat in kfm, my only issue is the server distance making some specs kind of moot. I came back in march and do love the game to my core. I never was a pvper cause i had pvp anxiety, so the pve/ raiding culture drove me in hard. At least i am making good headway (barring bottom 4 gear) with only premium membership.
BnS had so much fcken potential. So sad how it have ended up. I remember how many players would always run around hunting and teamwork killing world bosses.
i used to play my blade master Florcita, i still come from time to time to check the game and i still find the character extremely fun, but the server feels bad, also arenas, so dead, which was one of my reasons to leave besides mechanics and reuse of the content instead of new things, a lot of recycling and lastly, bugs unfixed, for now im exited about neo classic, but also checked on the discord and somebody says 1v1 arena is gonna be gear based, so if thats so, its ruined totally, but im waiting to see by myself. Sadly live server even with the most fun lightning blade master ever, has not much to offer now, a lot of upgrade materials in the store ...
👏👏👏 They bring farmable things (Sacred vial, Pet pot etc.) with Frostfire Foundry Update Patch. You know gems was ptw content in the game but now you can get it with csc farm :) They try to do something right but its not enough there is still much to do.
We've been in this for the same amount of time with that being said, you should know that this game survived as long as it did because of BnS Buddy and later Multi-tool due the games horrendous optimization, with that being said you know full and well people have been cheating since day one. Speed Hackers all over faction areas, Destroyer bots all over the place, all from the get go this isnt new. Accessory upgrading is absolute BS i can vouch for that in the live server. Classic shouldnt have that as this is only 45 cap for the time being. the paywall only affects higher ranking and its in the thousands of dollars can agree, gold sellers are a problem gold buyers are a bigger problem, alot of the upgrades are time-gated not paywalled the amount of mats you can buy legitimately from f10 is laughable people are buying gold and buying the mats off the market. however you know full well that even on F2P you can clear up to stage 8 - 12 or 4 - 5 with the investment of time. As for the upgrade mats Soulstones , Moonstones, Elysian orbs, Sacred Orbs. these are all farmable in the exploration areas, from rats that spawn after killing mobs. same for Hongmoon Scrolls which are "paywalled" yes those you can farm too from the same area. time consuming but they're there. The Crystal Variants (non-sellable) you could buy easily by AFKing in Darkweald, the mats ARE available to get without a battle pass, the battle pass speeds things up. they're running a Pay to progress. Soul Boost has been greatly reducing the amount of work people needed to do to catch up. as a result people aren't learning the game properly and you got people earning gear to do dungeons they're not experienced enough to do. Ncwest - You'll get no argument from me i dont know who the hell is responding to the tickets but they're god damn idiots who should have actually lost their jobs with the purge it's pointless put in a ticket, the bright-side is there actually seems to be some communication on the official discord, and with 2months of relics not working they only just last week FINALLY fixed them and the lost relics SHOULD be returned to everyone after maintenance today. But still there is no damn excuse for it no updates or anything, he's not wrong here and hopefully the discord works out better. PVP had a bigger balance issue more than cheaters if they would actually make an attempt to balance the classes in pvp without screwing over pve that would be more enjoyable how long has Warlock and Assassin been at the top of the tier list? i might have seen maybe 1 time where i loaded in and got killed by the time my loading screen finished makes no sense they wouldnt put the count down in the ring not off on the island. But i have had people using speed hacks in 6v6 or some people using 3rd spec summoner before it was even released. If you're looking to just enjoy the game the way it was 8 years ago, i can probably say it's not going to be EXACTLY as it was and that might be a good thing because gear was ALOT more grindy and people were too scared to do any higher difficulties and with how lazy people are today it seems they might be lessening the grind. Cheaters are gonna cheat it would be nice if they fixed it but they have ALWAYS been there even 8 years ago. Is it annoying ? Yes. will it ruin your experience, probably not unless you're out in faction or in PvP and if more people Actually played PvP such as 6v6 there would be a larger pool of people playing meaning less chance for cheater but i would sit there for 5-10 min in queue to get matched up against the same people every single day. 6v6 was actually fun if you play the objective it's not a death match. i highly recommend people give it a shot should they try classic Edit: The Musician Cheating is also absolute bullshit Pluck XML's are allowing Pluck to do absurd damage and there's no hopes of this being fixed as this isnt an issue in korea
dont agree at all. Its good fresh start at least for some time. Just to remember good old days. Yes it could be a bit different. But it doesnt mean isntantly "bad".Bns is already dead, but bns classic is better than nothing. What will happen in 3, 4, 5 years.... Dont care. There will be definitely more interesting projects :) But right now, if the release classic at least near 2015+-, then it would be perfect "filler" :D
@@user-th4ir7qm3q the way u talking like the company is the sole reason why this game going downhill lol...there so many people leaving this game because of playerbase/community too...even in this video literally talk about cheaters and stuffs
@@user-th4ir7qm3q bruh...nobody said the game is bad...the game is good but the company and playerbase is bad...simple as that...the company bad at managing and the playerbase bad because of cheating and more...like seriously stop focusing on company bad part only...look at playerbase bad part too
I feel like you're jumping to conclusions way too fast (which is very understandable). To be fair, we all know how scummy and neglecting NCSOFT has been with the game. There were many glaring issues which they chose to ignore that ultimately made them lose a lot of players. However, most people don't even know that there's huge management shift happening in their company at the moment. It could be either good or really bad; that remains to be seen. The director of the company stepped down recently, allowing someone else to take over. NCSOFT has lost over 400 million dollars due to the massive decline in players throughout their games. So in response to that, they had to shift their management team. In short, let's wait and see. With everything I just mentioned, this could either be a fresh start for the game or just another repeat of the same disaster which is the live server.
its only rant about retail, i mean they probably fuck classic up too, but maybe just try it when its out and ignore it if its crap. if it is anything like the live server i just stay on private servers xD
make a comeback this year jan and what i see is...majority of them just cheaters,bug abusers,the players population way too low for mmo game to the point its hard to get party and even have so called dead hours lol and to make it more worst some players just do party play within their circle group of clan/friends...this game glory era is done for...
Okay all right, slow down, the first close beta video appeared like 8 days ago... the game isn't even out yet, and you talk about Neo like you played it for a mouth or two, also you posted this video 3 mouths ago, so i don't know how is this possible, are you a time traveler or something or what?
This is deceptive video. this game isnt neo classic this is regular bns . so your problems there might not be neo classic problems. the game wasnt out when you made this video
Because the combat is amazing, when youre in a fight and you are nailing all your s, maximizing your dps and doing mechanics the game is amazing. Its ncsofts greed even though i pay a monthly fee.
@@JonJonPoPong yeah simply the best combat system i've ever seen in any game, period. loved it so much :,) but i could still never play a game where the "progression" feels like shit and is literally only possible when spending money.
So theory of the rant. NC Soft needs to add anti cheat to their game or 99% of the population will cheat. Edit: In conclusion, NC Soft doesn't care for the West and all of you should just quit BnS and come to BDO that puts NA and EU right below KR which isn't bad because if something goes wrong, KR gets to experience the bad first. lol Also BDO combat is AMAZING, very fluid and stunning graphics. BDO runs Easy AntiCheat and is going to upgrade their Anti Cheat in the future. And finally there is NO P2W in BDO. And call me crazy and slap my momma. But you won't be paying to win anything in BDO. lmao Each BiS item in BDO will cost you around as much as $20-100k USA IRL... 😂 And even if you're rich and did buy you're way to Bis gear, you still have to figure out what exactly to buy for your class, like Evasion for example or Ninja or Musa, or Accuracy for Maewha or Lahn, or DP and DR for Shai or Berserker. Can't really say what to buy since each class runs different passives. And then along side having the money to P2W, you still need the skill and practice to play the class or you'd be crapped on by EVERYONE, even experienced noobs. xD So I'd suggest anyone to give BDO a try if you want to try a fair game that you can play at your own pace and still keep up with the competition even if you quit playing for years.
@@toshi240 They added dungeons, but the game is not entirely focused on being forced to party with others. The game is for those who want to play at their own rate and way lol
What a load of bs. Dont play bdo. Its shit. Im noy even kidding if i tell you that you need to grind 4500h just to matter in pvp. 4500h grinding nonstop. Plus you need to swipe early on or you will grind 6kh atleast. I'm 2.5k€ in and standing at 680gs (gearscore) like 600gs or 650gs is easy. To go over that you have to grind shitton more. Like grind 200h to get 1 gs increase. Or try ur luck and lose those 200h grinding.
Bdo is multiplayer singleplayer game. You are alone. Theres nothing to do as a group in bdo. Cuz everything you do is more profitable and faster solo. And everything group related is shit. Early game is grinding and endgame is grinding aswell just on a different spot. So once u log in ur already in endgame activities. Shit is bland af. And will at the end feel just like work. 5kh in bdo without afk. Plus the lagg is unreal i have good internet. But you can feel how smooth the game is during big holidays when noone is playing. The afk system just breaks the game by causing delays in the server.
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glad to see you playing bns as old time
btw, big passion in this video, fells like u really loved the game and as many old ppl from the live server, cries its decandence, really sad for such a great game wich feels so abandoned by its creators.
damn, the legendary JonJonPoPong is still playing BNS?!?!
wow JonJonPoPong still playing bns to this day u probs dont remember who i am but you helped me out quite a bit way back in 2018 with my weak gunslinger haha 🙏
I appreciate the video I was in the process of downloading BnS and went ahead and stopped it. I had fond memories of this game from when it first came out but looks like they've turned into a milk the players thing. I'll attempt lost ark instead.
From what I experienced in lost Ark I would say it's milking players a damn lot as well
The gear treadmill must keep going. Most time efficient way to progress in this game: not playing and just waiting for the catch-up events to condense years of grinding into three days.
So should i play? I just love the melee combat in kfm, my only issue is the server distance making some specs kind of moot. I came back in march and do love the game to my core. I never was a pvper cause i had pvp anxiety, so the pve/ raiding culture drove me in hard. At least i am making good headway (barring bottom 4 gear) with only premium membership.
hi boss..have a good nice day.
When is the release?
BnS had so much fcken potential. So sad how it have ended up. I remember how many players would always run around hunting and teamwork killing world bosses.
How do I join someone who makes sense
long story short F nc soft !!!!!!!!
i used to play my blade master Florcita, i still come from time to time to check the game and i still find the character extremely fun, but the server feels bad, also arenas, so dead, which was one of my reasons to leave besides mechanics and reuse of the content instead of new things, a lot of recycling and lastly, bugs unfixed, for now im exited about neo classic, but also checked on the discord and somebody says 1v1 arena is gonna be gear based, so if thats so, its ruined totally, but im waiting to see by myself. Sadly live server even with the most fun lightning blade master ever, has not much to offer now, a lot of upgrade materials in the store ...
👏👏👏 They bring farmable things (Sacred vial, Pet pot etc.) with Frostfire Foundry Update Patch. You know gems was ptw content in the game but now you can get it with csc farm :) They try to do something right but its not enough there is still much to do.
Do you know if Scarlet Conservatory is bugged? i want to farm that outfit, but can't pass through flower mechanic to open the door for second boss
you need 3 guys whit you
you dont can do it alone
so sad, moving on
aint no way you still play LMAOOO i think i remember seeing on ssp and old faction shit
We've been in this for the same amount of time with that being said, you should know that this game survived as long as it did because of BnS Buddy and later Multi-tool due the games horrendous optimization, with that being said you know full and well people have been cheating since day one.
Speed Hackers all over faction areas, Destroyer bots all over the place, all from the get go this isnt new.
Accessory upgrading is absolute BS i can vouch for that in the live server. Classic shouldnt have that as this is only 45 cap for the time being. the paywall only affects higher ranking and its in the thousands of dollars can agree, gold sellers are a problem gold buyers are a bigger problem, alot of the upgrades are time-gated not paywalled the amount of mats you can buy legitimately from f10 is laughable people are buying gold and buying the mats off the market. however you know full well that even on F2P you can clear up to stage 8 - 12 or 4 - 5 with the investment of time. As for the upgrade mats Soulstones , Moonstones, Elysian orbs, Sacred Orbs. these are all farmable in the exploration areas, from rats that spawn after killing mobs. same for Hongmoon Scrolls which are "paywalled" yes those you can farm too from the same area. time consuming but they're there. The Crystal Variants (non-sellable) you could buy easily by AFKing in Darkweald, the mats ARE available to get without a battle pass, the battle pass speeds things up. they're running a Pay to progress. Soul Boost has been greatly reducing the amount of work people needed to do to catch up. as a result people aren't learning the game properly and you got people earning gear to do dungeons they're not experienced enough to do.
Ncwest - You'll get no argument from me i dont know who the hell is responding to the tickets but they're god damn idiots who should have actually lost their jobs with the purge it's pointless put in a ticket, the bright-side is there actually seems to be some communication on the official discord, and with 2months of relics not working they only just last week FINALLY fixed them and the lost relics SHOULD be returned to everyone after maintenance today. But still there is no damn excuse for it no updates or anything, he's not wrong here and hopefully the discord works out better.
PVP had a bigger balance issue more than cheaters if they would actually make an attempt to balance the classes in pvp without screwing over pve that would be more enjoyable how long has Warlock and Assassin been at the top of the tier list? i might have seen maybe 1 time where i loaded in and got killed by the time my loading screen finished makes no sense they wouldnt put the count down in the ring not off on the island. But i have had people using speed hacks in 6v6 or some people using 3rd spec summoner before it was even released.
If you're looking to just enjoy the game the way it was 8 years ago, i can probably say it's not going to be EXACTLY as it was and that might be a good thing because gear was ALOT more grindy and people were too scared to do any higher difficulties and with how lazy people are today it seems they might be lessening the grind. Cheaters are gonna cheat it would be nice if they fixed it but they have ALWAYS been there even 8 years ago. Is it annoying ? Yes. will it ruin your experience, probably not unless you're out in faction or in PvP and if more people Actually played PvP such as 6v6 there would be a larger pool of people playing meaning less chance for cheater but i would sit there for 5-10 min in queue to get matched up against the same people every single day. 6v6 was actually fun if you play the objective it's not a death match. i highly recommend people give it a shot should they try classic
Edit: The Musician Cheating is also absolute bullshit Pluck XML's are allowing Pluck to do absurd damage and there's no hopes of this being fixed as this isnt an issue in korea
Андрюха , это же ты ? Понг с nonamegame
wow legend ssp killing much ppl
What happens to the old BnS? Do they just close it down?
They say they will keep it running.
dont agree at all. Its good fresh start at least for some time. Just to remember good old days. Yes it could be a bit different. But it doesnt mean isntantly "bad".Bns is already dead, but bns classic is better than nothing.
What will happen in 3, 4, 5 years.... Dont care. There will be definitely more interesting projects :) But right now, if the release classic at least near 2015+-, then it would be perfect "filler" :D
Friendly reminder to everyone, BnS was never the bad thing, It was the company that was the bad thing
pfftt dont act like the playerbase is a saint when majority of them just cheaters and bug abusers 😂😂😂
@@shinichikudoz Point out to me the part in what i said that is what you are accusing me of please
@@user-th4ir7qm3q the way u talking like the company is the sole reason why this game going downhill lol...there so many people leaving this game because of playerbase/community too...even in this video literally talk about cheaters and stuffs
@@shinichikudoz The company is the reason its a terrible experience, the game was good, could have been good.
@@user-th4ir7qm3q bruh...nobody said the game is bad...the game is good but the company and playerbase is bad...simple as that...the company bad at managing and the playerbase bad because of cheating and more...like seriously stop focusing on company bad part only...look at playerbase bad part too
I feel like you're jumping to conclusions way too fast (which is very understandable). To be fair, we all know how scummy and neglecting NCSOFT has been with the game. There were many glaring issues which they chose to ignore that ultimately made them lose a lot of players.
However, most people don't even know that there's huge management shift happening in their company at the moment. It could be either good or really bad; that remains to be seen. The director of the company stepped down recently, allowing someone else to take over.
NCSOFT has lost over 400 million dollars due to the massive decline in players throughout their games. So in response to that, they had to shift their management team.
In short, let's wait and see. With everything I just mentioned, this could either be a fresh start for the game or just another repeat of the same disaster which is the live server.
your a mor***** that’s all i got to say
the fact that the current BnS is still GARBAGE just shows that you are delusional at maximum! like for god damn real!
But the poor optimization is part of the nostalgia trip lol
its only rant about retail, i mean they probably fuck classic up too, but maybe just try it when its out and ignore it if its crap.
if it is anything like the live server i just stay on private servers xD
it will be, wtf are you on about? like do you HONESTLY believe it won’t be garbage just cuz it’s an fresh start? LAMO
did the game actually release? I keep seeing videos about this but there isn't a download page on the website lmao
i think the answer is very clear
make a comeback this year jan and what i see is...majority of them just cheaters,bug abusers,the players population way too low for mmo game to the point its hard to get party and even have so called dead hours lol and to make it more worst some players just do party play within their circle group of clan/friends...this game glory era is done for...
Okay all right, slow down, the first close beta video appeared like 8 days ago... the game isn't even out yet, and you talk about Neo like you played it for a mouth or two, also you posted this video 3 mouths ago, so i don't know how is this possible, are you a time traveler or something or what?
Omg the base game has actually so much worse over the years lol. Well let’s give classic a chance. Finger crossed they don’t fuck it up.
This is deceptive video. this game isnt neo classic this is regular bns . so your problems there might not be neo classic problems. the game wasnt out when you made this video
go watch china version lol people already cheated there 😂😂
give me link to download
why dont you just quit?
Because the combat is amazing, when youre in a fight and you are nailing all your s, maximizing your dps and doing mechanics the game is amazing. Its ncsofts greed even though i pay a monthly fee.
@@JonJonPoPong yeah simply the best combat system i've ever seen in any game, period. loved it so much :,) but i could still never play a game where the "progression" feels like shit and is literally only possible when spending money.
thank you for the good video for info og neo classic
so when they release that stupid neo classic? ffs
So theory of the rant. NC Soft needs to add anti cheat to their game or 99% of the population will cheat.
Edit: In conclusion, NC Soft doesn't care for the West and all of you should just quit BnS and come to BDO that puts NA and EU right below KR which isn't bad because if something goes wrong, KR gets to experience the bad first. lol
Also BDO combat is AMAZING, very fluid and stunning graphics.
BDO runs Easy AntiCheat and is going to upgrade their Anti Cheat in the future.
And finally there is NO P2W in BDO. And call me crazy and slap my momma. But you won't be paying to win anything in BDO. lmao Each BiS item in BDO will cost you around as much as $20-100k USA IRL... 😂 And even if you're rich and did buy you're way to Bis gear, you still have to figure out what exactly to buy for your class, like Evasion for example or Ninja or Musa, or Accuracy for Maewha or Lahn, or DP and DR for Shai or Berserker. Can't really say what to buy since each class runs different passives. And then along side having the money to P2W, you still need the skill and practice to play the class or you'd be crapped on by EVERYONE, even experienced noobs. xD
So I'd suggest anyone to give BDO a try if you want to try a fair game that you can play at your own pace and still keep up with the competition even if you quit playing for years.
Did BDO add a bunch of pve content? Like raids and dungeons? Or is PVE still a tiny speck compared to the pvp side
@@toshi240 They added dungeons, but the game is not entirely focused on being forced to party with others. The game is for those who want to play at their own rate and way lol
dbo is ass
What a load of bs. Dont play bdo. Its shit. Im noy even kidding if i tell you that you need to grind 4500h just to matter in pvp. 4500h grinding nonstop. Plus you need to swipe early on or you will grind 6kh atleast. I'm 2.5k€ in and standing at 680gs (gearscore) like 600gs or 650gs is easy. To go over that you have to grind shitton more. Like grind 200h to get 1 gs increase. Or try ur luck and lose those 200h grinding.
Bdo is multiplayer singleplayer game. You are alone. Theres nothing to do as a group in bdo. Cuz everything you do is more profitable and faster solo. And everything group related is shit. Early game is grinding and endgame is grinding aswell just on a different spot. So once u log in ur already in endgame activities. Shit is bland af. And will at the end feel just like work. 5kh in bdo without afk. Plus the lagg is unreal i have good internet. But you can feel how smooth the game is during big holidays when noone is playing. The afk system just breaks the game by causing delays in the server.
Sigh... why you gotta kill my hype and dreams like that. 😢😢
must face the fear
sory bro i love u
He is jumping to conclusions, who says that they wont fix these issues in the neo classic??
all i can say it dont waste ur time for this game anymore...its aint worth it