Great video but I thought you could have gone harder 😂. Yes the affiliation links are one big reason…people start channels reviewing Ali watches because they are cheap, also because aliexpress sellers are first to offer free watches but I also did it because I love making content and you can’t see these watches in shops so as long as you have the watch you are providing a useful service. I also have to sell most of the watches I review because I never charge a cash fee unlike MOST large channels. I also don’t like that channels review watches they haven’t handled. I only ever recommend watches I’ve handled. I still get some for free from aliexpress but actually I buy many now because it’s easier than dealing with the sellers. They can be quite demanding and even try to influence the content. I’m known for my San Martin content but I have no shame in that, they make amazing watches in my opinion and they get the most views too…there’s far more sinister and nefarious stuff going on than this trust me…this is the tip of the iceberg in terms of the ‘let’s all hate on reviewers’ subject like for example…where Bens video on dodgy watch reviewers gone? Did he remove it because he’s now started up a second channel where he does the very things he was so critical of in his video….😅 his new channel also has no connection to his main channel so it seems he wants to almost fly under the radar…be ethical on one channel and be a dodgy reviewer on the other…You can’t make a video shaming reviewers for doing what every reviewer does then set up a channel and also do it…I think that’s called hypocrisy.
I cannot imagine the clownery that goes on behind the scenes. I for one think you and Simon are doing it correctly. Thanks and keep the SM Content coming!
@@ilikewatches true story, at the end of this video (originally) I highly recommended your channel and Simon’s channel and James channel from Watching James, I should have left that in but it was already getting more wordy than I wanted it to be, and you and I have discussed the issue with people hiding themselves behind the includes paid promotion bit! Appreciate your channel and your content more than you know Gary, now ya do :)
For me personally, I don't mind being shown watches that the watch reviewer is watching. I actually like this. I like being made aware of watches that I'm not aware of. I don't care if the reviewer has actually handled the watch or not. I just want to be made aware of new watches and then I'll decide whether to buy it or not.
My thoughts exactly! I'm a noob and still developing my taste for wristcandy. I've learned from other hobbyists about what stands out about certain watches: I'll decide if I agree! For instance: I realized "I don't get it" about about dive watches, I really love vintage military watches, I learned that I was captivated by all Wristwatch Revival videos and so, instead of watches, I spent my money on tools, lubes and clone movements just to do maintenance!
Great video man! I have been contemplating about doing a “how much I make as a youtuber” video lol. Just to pull the curtain a bit and I am with you on your pet peeve, recommending watches they haven’t seen in the metal for clicks and sales makes me smh. 🙂↔️
Thanks David! I am about to begin on the influencer program for aliexpress but not sure how far I will go with it as their platform stinks and isn’t the most user friendly. Hopefully it will provide opportunity for me to make a wee bit more but I will never push a product I haven’t handled that’s for sure and I would love to hear about your experience on TH-cam for sure
I am getting really tired of the incessant shilling on TH-cam. Either AliExpress or microbrand watches. And even the most honest reviewer (which not all of them are!) will see differently the same watch when it's sent for free vs. when it's bought with its own money or on loan for review. Thank you for this video!
I really agree that those "Watches I am Watching" reviews are the lazy man's way to get TH-cam hits by just comparing specs on paper without ever having seen or touched a product. When you couple this with a clickbait title and thumbnail this is just as dishonest as those "reaction videos" where someone else does the work, and you get paid for their efforts. And the ultimate bottom of the barrel are those videos that don't even have a human narrating them.... just a computer generated voice comparing "the five best dishwashers" or the "top ten laptops for 2024" videos. Those kinds of reviews are really faking it for easy income.
I think you forgot one major reason.. it's content the viewers want to see. As inflation skyrockets, the budget conscious consumer is looking for value and that's where your first few points come in. I'm far more curious about when reviewers are getting paid in addition to getting a free watch.
Yes gz that is also true aliexpress videos are very popular, just look at how this one is trending compared to my other videos, yiu are absolutely correct about that
Oh for sure some of the things I have learned about what some TH-camrs are doing (sly, without full transparency) is troublesome and of course it’s all about the money unfortunately
You make a lot of sense. When someone reviews a watch, they are actually doing some work. When they just provide a list of "watches I am watching" they are just fishing for commissions through affiliate links. It is borderline dishonest. This irks me as much as those "Watch me reacting to someone else's video" which just means someone else did all the work, and I get all the hits and TH-cam payments when all I did was roll someone else's videos, and throw in a few personal comments of my own.
Thank you for the video. Reason No. 5 is such a problem. I do understand the money aspect, but I think reviewers should keep it under strict control. Sadly, some - including a few of my most favourite watch TH-camrs - don’t always succeed in that regard. For me, a watch review should be objective, critical, and based on a personal experience with the watch in question. Please be honest and professional, and don’t review watches you didn’t have in your hands.
I don't have a problem when reviewers make lists of watches that they are keeping their eye on, that's exactly right that everyone is doing it, but they will bring something to your attention or remind you about it. The annoying thing is that the lists get very repetitive especially when they are all so similar. Like a new san martin release is bascially going to be on every single reviewers list.
@@gz7587 yes, I totally agree, although I will say I think it’s annoying when said video with lists has affiliate links when you know the person hasn’t had the watch in hand but still wants you to buy it so they can get the commission. Most do that, and that’s my beef, having a list video in and of itself is not an issue I have
@@c.s2001 well it’s true, I am new to being an aliexpress influencer as they reached out to me. Not sure how long I will be on it though. I have one wafch on the way that I am super excited to highlight where I reached out, fantastic looking watch by a microbrand in the US
I think most viewers are aware of this, but it is good to remind us 👍 . I don't mind reviewers getting free watches and using affiliate links as long as they declare it AND I see them criticise the watches, if every watch is wondeful something is wrong. I still watch channels that charge fees (finding out who takes a while, they should declare this at the start) if they are entertaining, but take their recommendations with a large pinch of salt.
@@WatchSniper l will subscribe to your channel! Nothing wrong with getting to the point where you are offered watches to review or doing aliexpress watches, but be honest about what is happening and for me I would never recommend any watch I didn’t have hands on experience with. Good luck with your channel!!!!
Ali is great when everything goes well but when orders are wrong or packages don’t arrive they don’t want to know no help with the sellers at all so basically buyer beware
I have ordered tons of stuff, including many watches, from Ali and everything has shown up here in southwestern Ontario. A few small things took a bit of time, but everything got here between 8 days and three weeks.
Sorry to hear you have had issues. I have ordered lots to the UK no problems at all. I always get tracking emails, updates on arrival etc.. Works perfectly.
@@anthonydevono8833 that’s very true although I must say I have only ever had a couple of headaches in my experience so far and one of those was a friends wafch loaned to me for review who needed a new bracelet. Ir did take some back and forth to get it but eventually it was sent, thanks for watching m8!
Theres also a point of sustainability for a watch content creator, once they get to the point of monetisation on YT, affiliate links and the causal promoted videos is that they are not going to hang onto all of their watches that they feature so they would end up selling the ones they bought from AliExpress onto places like ebay as an example.
If I had million I would buy Rolex, Omegas, etc, etc. However I have a regular job with a regular income. Pagani Design, Steeldive etc, etc are within my price range. Anyone unless they and interested in watches could not tell the difference or ever care if you wearing a Rolex or a Pagani. All the AliExpress watches I have had are worth the money.
@@75000cs hey m8, I agree with you wholeheartedly, getting a new pagani soon that is a ap royal oak chronograph homage, op price anywhere from 70-80 grand, I got it for 75 CAD (well for free as I’m in the aliexpress influencer program)
I know exactly what your saying, I only use a select few affiliate links due to how it can be abused. I have removed subs to some, but will not divulge who I have removed.
@@MirrlyonTime Yup....awesome watch...stupid name. ie. FeelNever. But I bought it because the watch is so damn good. $53 on sale for a 500M Diver chrono built like a tank.
To play Devil's Advocate: 1. AliExpress affiliate links are now all clearly disclosed in TH-cam videos. 2. The TH-cam watch reviewers that make thier livings providing content (100K+ subscribers) need to produce 3 to 6 videos per week, and reviewing that many watches with fully editing the videos is nearly impossible. If a reviewer is familiar with a brand because they have reviewed several other Sea-Gull, Steeldive, Tandorio, or San Martin Watches, it really isn't a problem for them to call out new releases or top sellers, even if they are yet to produce a full review. 3. More problematic is a constant stream of positive reviews, wherein the reviewer is afraid to point out major flaws for fear the brand or seller will cut off further free review items.
@@PlugInRides thanks plug-in very good points! I appreciate the feedback m8 and please subscribe to the channel as well! Your thoughts are always welcome here
@@aminabellalvaradoaguero9190 Lolol! Thanks m8, truth be told I didn’t realize she was on camera, I knew she was on the couch, but…..haha, I featured her in another video as well haha, thanks for watching
With the huge multitude of often unknown chinese watch brands available upon Aliexpress, Temu, Ebay etc. Some may be truly great value, but some are inevitably going going to be junk costume jewellery, if still amazing value for money unless sellers are profiteering savagely. Reviewers have been able to point out some of the better brands (which may be good indeed), though comparatively little is heard about the poorer ones that seem so tempting, as their sellers are hardly likely to offer them for review... Prospective buyers will be searching reviewers to investigate brands at all price points.
If you are interested in Horology and start a TH-cam channel, you would probably like to get some return on you start up costs and then your time in making your videos. I understand that for you to become a professional youtuber, you need to publish at least three times a week to get to the big bucks, so I don't see there is much of a problem in how they create that revenue. Plus if you are seriously interested in purchasing a Ali watch you will probably find more than one channel reviewing it, for a second opinion.
@@fattmatt200 very true fattmatt nothing wrong with making a return for your work. That said, be upfront about your motives if that’s the case right from the start. Peddling product you haven’t actually had hands on experience is wrong imo, and some reviewers are getting more than just free watches they charge for their reviews. If receiving free watch potentially biases the reviewer (anyone with common sense knows that it does a little) than how much more would getting paid on top of that slant your bias? I’ve seen it happen.
Thanks Andrei! The series was inspired by a mug we have at home that was given to one of my sons I think with the same picture and the iconic line what you talkin bout Willis printed on the mug :) at least this comment made it through haha
I always take any watch "review" with a huge grain of salt. I don't expect any watch reviewer to be making these videos purely from the goodness of their heart. Ain't nobody got time for that. But I do appreciate being shown new watches I'd have probably never discovered on my own. If I'm interested, then I'll dig deeper. Sometimes, I get more information from the comments than from the review. I think it was from the comments section of some video that first exposed Benyar watches for actually being alloy rather than the claimed stainless.
@@michaelhorn8962 yes great points Michael! Whenever you purchase something you neee to do your research. I do pride myself in giving honest reviews even if the watch is free, which it seldom is for me but it won’t be long before I am able to get some more in the magic number seems to be 5k subscribers. Check out this video of a watch that was sent to me for free, and the initial unboxing comments revealed it was a drop ship of an addies dive model. I offered to return the watch (my cost) to the owner as I knew bringing up the info would hurt his brand. His nasty reply prompted me to do this video…. How Some Microbrands Are Ripping You Off!! th-cam.com/video/grbfHvNqIi8/w-d-xo.html
Nothing wrong with having affiliate links and you should get set up for it, if you need help email me at mirrlyontime@gmail.com My issue as stated in the video is pushing watches and links that you have no hands on experience with. Thanks for watching and best of luck with your channel! I will subscribe to it :)
Watch reviewers that never say never are the ones to stop watching. I seen people who like every watch they get. Never a problem, never a care. Where is this person buying from? Not where we do!😊
The reviewers I watch are usually upfront with their affiliates, and that they make money from this. I have no issue with this. When I see a watch, I usually look at a number of reviews to get an idea as to whether the reviews are factual.
Great video. A lot of watch reviewers lack any sort of class and are basically 'watch influencers' i.e. professional beggers. Use my affiliate link, top ten list, won't affect the review etc. etc. Anything to make a cheap buck. Ali watches are great quality for the price but where are the original designs? I would rather see an interesting new design over the same copy+paste Sub, Willard or whatever else is being produced.
@@st4ndaman you are not alone in this, and I plan on having a conversation soon with the smartest watch guy I know about this very issue, the place homage watches should have in the watch collecting world and issues of originality and development etc
These you tube reviews turn into a giant circle jerk when companies pass out watches to reviewers and they all drool about how amazing these watches are, and say little to nothing substantially bad about these watches. Otherwise they wouldn't get free watches to sell on the open market. Their reviews are valueless. They would have credibility by returning all watches to the manufacturer, but that will never happen.
Thanks for the great video. And you have some great points, but I actually don’t mind Watch Reviewers recommending watches they haven’t handled especially from a brand they are familiar with. I personally think it would be impossible just to talk about only products you’ve handled whether it’s watches, cars, frying pans, or whatever. Thanks again!
@@adk7962 I make the same point in sum video here unless of course that part got Edited out for final production of it haha, can’t remember but yes as long as a reviewer has confidence in a brand I don’t see a problem talking about other watches from said brand
@@keithmclean3627 50?! Wow. There is one particular store I think where I could have got it for that but unfortunately they don’t deliver to my address…..booooo
I just opened my order from the last big sale 😢 they not only sent the wrong watch the dial is crooked and the insert doesn't line up I have the same watch already and it was great tandorio is going down hill fast I always recommend them this watch is absolutely terrible very poor printing on dial and it's totally crooked never again I have had enough trash I'm selling all my ali trash the tools to fix the defective crap they sold me.all of it it will be so nice to never see another crappy homage
Reach out to Leon at the tandoorio official store I am sure he will take care of you. I got two tandoorios with my own logo custom on the dial and I was quite pleased with both, a field watch and a Seiko monster homage. And Leon was great to deal with via the message section on aliexpress app. But yeah, I haven’t had too many bad experiences with watches from aliexpress but I definitely have and can understand why you would want to stay away
It is actually hard to go wrong with Casio. They make excellent watches, and most are very affordable. My own "three Casios" are one G-Shock and two Casio Duros. And I own over a hundred watches. Every collection should have at least three Casios in it!
for one pArt I love this work and the result and the process but on the other side I'm starting to think I'm not that good at it, so far it takes me ages to finish the videos, have had to return 1 watch already, the brand that said me was gonna send me one for free stoped replying my emails, think their expectations are like me reading a script or something, idk 🥴
Hey m8 just subscribed to your channel. Haven’t watched any videos as I just did but I will and give you some thoughts if you want. As long as you are having fun and have a genuine enthusiasm for the hobby you will do ok. Don’t worry about getting watches at this point as it takes time to develop a reputation. I would beware of any that want you to say anything “scripted” a watch brand/company should be confident enough in their product to come under scrutiny but if there is scripted portions just let your audience know. Thanks for watching this one m8!
@@lew9223 ahh, yeah nothing wrong with being an affiliate as I am one myself, my beef is with those who push sales and lists of watches they have had no hands on experience with. Thanks for watching Lew appreciate it, and please subscribe if you don’t mind, God bless m8!
Interesting video mate. I know you’re one of the good guys but if I didn’t I have to be honest and say this smells a little bit like you’re having a go at channels for doing well. I’m not saying I don’t agree with many points you’ve made but I just don’t see the reason to try and out people, I’d rather just stay in my own lane tbh but each to their own. Keep doing you man 👍👍
You and Gary are definitely a couple of the good ones. I’ve never felt either one of you were trying to “sell” watches versus just wanting to talk about watches! Thanks!
@@adk7962 I appreciate that mate and knowing Gary personally, I know he is aligned with me on keeping everything 100% honest and maintaining our integrity. Thanks again man 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime not at all Simon, I as you know celebrate the success if my friends channels and if I wanted to call out channels I could have but I chose not too because that’s not what this video is about, and true story, in my original Video I signal out your channel, Gary’s and watching James as channels I highly recommend to people, but I left that out because I felt this one was being too wordy at that point…..not trying to out people, if you recall another video I did about a microbrand company that was merely drop shipping aliexpress watches I did a video about without mentioning the company name. Appreciate you as always!
@@MirrlyonTime I know you mate, so I know the sort of motivation you’d have had to make the video, I just hope others do to as I’ve always thought of you as one of the good guys. Have a blessed weekend man 👍👍
Also when the reviewer makes 10 community posts a day about watches they are “Pulling the trigger” on, stay tuned for the upcoming review, or already reviewed.
Boo Hoo. Hate the game not the player. Know what I hate? Talking about other channels. Run your own and don't hate anyone who has a much more popular channel.
@@DocWat280 dude I am running my own and I wasn’t slamming any channel in particular but sharing a general observation of something that, IN MY OPINION, bothers me. And you’re bloody ignorant m8, if you knew me you would know that I celebrate the success of other folks channels. I don’t hate any of them, ignorant comments like yours on the other hand….
One reviewer gave a great review of a watch and I mentioned a vendor that had said watch on sale. Reviewer, instead of assisting their viewers, nuked my post!
That stinks! I’m all about helping people if there is a better deal to be had on a watch I’m happy to point people in that direction. Thanks for watching m8 and please subscribe :)
it's most likely youtube that deletes your comments not reviewers.. every single mention of any sort of product placement is automatically deleted. i once just mentioned buy me a coffee in a comment without any links or anything like that, just a general mention of it and the comment god deleted by youtube.
@@johnrb9397 Pagani Design PD 1671 homage of a Tudor black bay. Will be doing a video on it soon comparing it to an earlier version, to show whether or not PD is making improvements. One step forward two steps back unfortunately, and cannot recommend this particular watch, stay tuned!
Interesting topic! It is quite complex and I think there are arguments both ways. I think ultimately there should also be some trust in the audience, us viewers, that many of us are capable of watching objectively and being able to decipher bias from paid reviews whether we know its paid for or not. To be honest im a bit of a cynic and assume there is gonna be bias in videos I watch and skip over all the notifications about whether its sponseres or paid or whatever. I actually dont care so much because Im gonna watch the video objectively and with my own interpretation. But thats me and everyone is different. Also important to have a healthy conversation about it on both sides of the fence. I like how your video doesnt name and shame anyone and your just providing info. There are some comments in here naming and shaming and I dont think thats helpful to anyone or the best approach to "fix" whatever the problem is. Thanks again for this video.
Thanks mk as I said in my video (at least I think I kept it in)’there is nothing wrong with making money doing this, I think the problem lies with some of the practices that show me anyways that some have transitioned slightly from doing this out of the pure love of the hobby and wanting to make money the priority and not the love of watches which leads to compromise, but you are absolutely bang on a viewer with common sense is able to figure out quite quickly whether or not someone is genuinely promoting a watch or brand or is a mere shill for it. Bias cannot be avoided, I admit my bias for Timex over Casio in some of my videos for example, but bias has nothing to do with my biggest pet peeve mentioned here which is promoting watches that you don’t even have or have had, and provide affiliate links for them. That to me is just wrong and I don’t follow channels myself that do this. Great feedback mk thank you for that.
@MirrlyonTime Thanks for takin the time to read my comment and detailed a response! I agree with you. Except on the timex vs casio! Haha Thanks again! =)
@@mk84142 my pleasure and we Can still be friends despite your disagreement with my take on Timex. For me, Timex will always hold a special place in my heart and will be doing more on Timex here soon. Thanks so much for watching and weighing in and I hope you have subscribed, god bless m8!
@@michaelhorn8962 I have never thought of it that way Michael, now that is something to ponder, although I’m sure they would be quick to catch on :) thanks for watching m8
@@MirrlyonTime Amazon might not send you free watches to review, but they ALSO have an affiliate program that pays you for every order placed through the link you post. And some people make a pretty good living this way. Buy something, review it, post a link, and get paid. Of course, this works best with larger channels since the more subscribers you have the more likely that more orders will be placed. And if enough of your subscribers make orders, then it really doesn't matter what you paid for the watch.
@@Marty4650 true Marty but I believe Michael was suggesting buying the watch, reviewing and it returning it since Amazon has such a good return policy hehe, as I said to him wouldn’t take long for them to catch on
Jody is the worst culprit, he spent years telling people he wasn’t getting paid when he was! 🤦🏻♂️ he only stopped when I emailed him and told him it was wrong! You can’t play an alarm, claim you only got a free watch all the while charging huge cash fees for your content. It’s outrageous that he got away with it for as long as he did.
@@ILikeWatches2 Interesting information. Thank you. I just remember calling him out that the particular video was sponsored. If he didn’t do that when it was affiliate link sponsoring only then I didn’t notice it. Maybe because I never click on affiliate links. Okay, I am starting to hate him now. Or at least when my Erebus Ascent arrives and it is a bad watch. :D
He now says sponsored because I emailed him and told him to stop lying about getting paid. When reviewers say sponsored they are telling you the charge a cash fee with telling you they charge a cash fee…I think it’s their way of clearing their conscience…it doesn’t go far enough.
I used to watch Jody on Just One More Watch but I soon got sick of his channel when I noticed that EVERY video of his was sponsored content, with the watch supplied by the seller/manufacturer. He can say that doesn't influence his "reviews" but it must to some degree - otherwise watch manufacturers would stop supplying him with watches. As a result, no free product to review, so less content for him to make, so less potential revenue from affiliate links and TH-cam. I unsubscribed from his channel.
Well, I have it on good authority that Jody was not just receiving a free watch he was also getting paid for the reviews. In fact, Tandoirio offered to pay me 100 dollars for the review, I refused and said that the watch was payment enough (as I will be able to sell it if I want to), and I don’t do any reviews on watches sent unless I can say what I want to. Nothing wrong with getting watches sent for free, as long as everything is properly disclosed. I insubbed to Jody’s for that reason
I really despise Ali Express watches, they steal IP and build them with child slave labor. I've bought 2 of them early in my collecting and they are my biggest watch regrets. They both have had problems. I have too much self respect to buy another one.
@@LenRedeemingTheTime that’s funny the obligatory seagull 1963 haha, I haven’t obliged to that one yet, actually the only thing I like about it is the movement I’m hoping to get a watch with that movement in the future. What about them are your biggest watch regrets?
You too don't get it! Like I said on other channels, you can load these Chinese junk watches with all the specs you want, it still has a Pagani Design stamped logo on it!!! You're just cheating yourself by buying a Rolex clone because you cannot afford it!!! I once took that route but quickly realised that I don't want to put on a chinese watch with a stupid snorkling guy stamped on it just because it looks like a Rolex. Who are we kidding? And everytime you look at that dial, you know that you're just fooling yourself. You see a brand name is everything, whether you like it or not. If you cannot buy a Rolex, you can for only 200 or 300$, buy yourself a nice Seiko or a Citizen or a G-SHOCK or an Orient... These are brands with heritage, brand recognition and durability that you'd be proud to wear. Stop promoting these watches even if you want to start a channel. It is not good advice.
@@cougarbatterie thanks for sharing your opinion cougar. And when I look at the dial I am not fooling myself, nobody is, I know it’s a homage watch. And just because it is a Chinese brand doesn’t mean that it isn’t a good watch m8, so no one is being kidded here, people know what these watches are and like myself many many people who can’t afford a Rolex are more than happy to own a Chinese homage watch. To your point about buying a citizen or a Seiko, I agree, for example why I won’t buy a San Martin. I’ll spend 100 bucks (or 80usd) on a Chinese homage all day and twice on Sunday before I spend 200 more when that could buy as you say a heritage piece. So don’t presume what I or anyone else is feeling (kidding ourselves) when we wear these watches, I am a proud owner of many homage pieces of watches that I cannot afford.
@@MirrlyonTime Sorry my friend, a person who buys basically a copy and paste of a Rolex or an Omega is fooling himself, even if he knows that it is a homage watch. If these Chinese watches weren't a homage to iconic brands, would you still buy them? Of course not! You just want the looks of a Rolex without paying the hefty price. If this is not cheating on yourself, what is it then? And for God sake, don't ever compare the quality of an addiesdive dive to a Seiko that makes watches since 1881. You're just being ridiculous.
@@cougarbatterie now who is being ridiculous. Just because a company has been making watches since 1881 or whatever doesn’t make them a better watch, a brand yes a watch no. San Martin watches are fantastic and offer far better value for dollar spec wise than a 200 dollar Seiko. And the answer to your question, would I buy an 80 dollar watch from aliexpress if it didn’t look like a Rolex, is yes, since they make good watches for the money. Move on and troll someone else m8, I believe the term used to describe you is watch snob, and you’re a big one
@@MirrlyonTime Listen how pathetic you are: did you just say that a company that makes watches since 1881, doesn't mean that they make better watches then a 5 year old Chinese brand that buys Miyota movement from the Japanese and copy great brands with zero innovation! Did you just say that?!!!😂😂😂 Yep, you're a hopeless case!
@@cougarbatterie You have a very strong opinion on the matter. And that is fine. Hell, in some ways I agree with you. A company making watches for 100+ years adds something to the design and choices that go into making a watch. There is nothing better than having a model line for 50 years that you keep making small adjustments to in the pursuit of improving the core concept behind the watch. However, that does not always equate to an objectively superior end product. Would I still prefer the heritage over the potentially marginally better components? Personally, yes, absolutely yes. But that is a personal opinion, based on my values. Just like yours is your own personal taste and opinion. Others might have a different opinion that is equally valid (or invalid) from an objective stance. You should also consider the fact that you are interacting with a guy that is doing videos as a passion project to reflect what he likes about collecting watches. He is not obligated to cater to anyone else's tastes than his own. Be respectful or move along.
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Great video but I thought you could have gone harder 😂. Yes the affiliation links are one big reason…people start channels reviewing Ali watches because they are cheap, also because aliexpress sellers are first to offer free watches but I also did it because I love making content and you can’t see these watches in shops so as long as you have the watch you are providing a useful service. I also have to sell most of the watches I review because I never charge a cash fee unlike MOST large channels. I also don’t like that channels review watches they haven’t handled. I only ever recommend watches I’ve handled. I still get some for free from aliexpress but actually I buy many now because it’s easier than dealing with the sellers. They can be quite demanding and even try to influence the content. I’m known for my San Martin content but I have no shame in that, they make amazing watches in my opinion and they get the most views too…there’s far more sinister and nefarious stuff going on than this trust me…this is the tip of the iceberg in terms of the ‘let’s all hate on reviewers’ subject like for example…where Bens video on dodgy watch reviewers gone? Did he remove it because he’s now started up a second channel where he does the very things he was so critical of in his video….😅 his new channel also has no connection to his main channel so it seems he wants to almost fly under the radar…be ethical on one channel and be a dodgy reviewer on the other…You can’t make a video shaming reviewers for doing what every reviewer does then set up a channel and also do it…I think that’s called hypocrisy.
I cannot imagine the clownery that goes on behind the scenes. I for one think you and Simon are doing it correctly. Thanks and keep the SM Content coming!
@@adk7962thank you….yes it’s quite surprising what goes on and I can confirm Simon is a great guy!
@@ilikewatches true story, at the end of this video (originally) I highly recommended your channel and Simon’s channel and James channel from
Watching James, I should have left that in but it was already getting more wordy than I wanted it to be, and you and I have discussed the issue with people hiding themselves behind the includes paid promotion bit! Appreciate your channel and your content more than you know Gary, now ya do :)
@@ILikeWatches2 Simon is the man I love Simon!
@@ilikewatches I don’t watch much of Ben’s channel and didn’t even know he had a second one lol
For me personally, I don't mind being shown watches that the watch reviewer is watching. I actually like this. I like being made aware of watches that I'm not aware of. I don't care if the reviewer has actually handled the watch or not. I just want to be made aware of new watches and then I'll decide whether to buy it or not.
@@sinjinadams2862 fair enough
My thoughts exactly! I'm a noob and still developing my taste for wristcandy. I've learned from other hobbyists about what stands out about certain watches: I'll decide if I agree! For instance: I realized "I don't get it" about about dive watches, I really love vintage military watches, I learned that I was captivated by all Wristwatch Revival videos and so, instead of watches, I spent my money on tools, lubes and clone movements just to do maintenance!
@@ardz8279 very cool! Thanks for sharing
Great video man! I have been contemplating about doing a “how much I make as a youtuber” video lol. Just to pull the curtain a bit and I am with you on your pet peeve, recommending watches they haven’t seen in the metal for clicks and sales makes me smh. 🙂↔️
Thanks David! I am about to begin on the influencer program for aliexpress but not sure how far I will go with it as their platform stinks and isn’t the most user friendly. Hopefully it will provide opportunity for me to make a wee bit more but I will never push a product I haven’t handled that’s for sure and I would love to hear about your experience on TH-cam for sure
Nice to have you back Mr M. Thank you for your honesty.
Thanks rappers!
Mr M. the absolute goat
I am getting really tired of the incessant shilling on TH-cam. Either AliExpress or microbrand watches. And even the most honest reviewer (which not all of them are!) will see differently the same watch when it's sent for free vs. when it's bought with its own money or on loan for review. Thank you for this video!
Thanks for watching m8
I really agree that those "Watches I am Watching" reviews are the lazy man's way to get TH-cam hits by just comparing specs on paper without ever having seen or touched a product. When you couple this with a clickbait title and thumbnail this is just as dishonest as those "reaction videos" where someone else does the work, and you get paid for their efforts. And the ultimate bottom of the barrel are those videos that don't even have a human narrating them.... just a computer generated voice comparing "the five best dishwashers" or the "top ten laptops for 2024" videos.
Those kinds of reviews are really faking it for easy income.
@@Marty4650 good insights m8
Thank you for watching and sharing!
I think you forgot one major reason.. it's content the viewers want to see. As inflation skyrockets, the budget conscious consumer is looking for value and that's where your first few points come in. I'm far more curious about when reviewers are getting paid in addition to getting a free watch.
Yes gz that is also true aliexpress videos are very popular, just look at how this one is trending compared to my other videos, yiu are absolutely correct about that
You brought up some great points about watch reviews more are for the money than most probably a series that can be talked about more in future video
Oh for sure some of the things I have learned about what some TH-camrs are doing (sly, without full transparency) is troublesome and of course it’s all about the money unfortunately
I've stopped watching some watch reviewer channels because their channels have almost turned into infomercials for paid watch reviews. Hi Jody 😉
Yep! I hear ya, nice burn m8 lol
a lot of channels just become Aliexpress watch clubs.
@@chosearmandoarmando3864 that’s definitely a way of putting it! Thanks m8
You make a lot of sense. When someone reviews a watch, they are actually doing some work. When they just provide a list of "watches I am watching" they are just fishing for commissions through affiliate links. It is borderline dishonest. This irks me as much as those "Watch me reacting to someone else's video" which just means someone else did all the work, and I get all the hits and TH-cam payments when all I did was roll someone else's videos, and throw in a few personal comments of my own.
@@Marty4650 yes true that Marty thanks for the insights!
Thank you for the video. Reason No. 5 is such a problem. I do understand the money aspect, but I think reviewers should keep it under strict control. Sadly, some - including a few of my most favourite watch TH-camrs - don’t always succeed in that regard. For me, a watch review should be objective, critical, and based on a personal experience with the watch in question. Please be honest and professional, and don’t review watches you didn’t have in your hands.
Great points! Thanks for watching m8
I don't have a problem when reviewers make lists of watches that they are keeping their eye on, that's exactly right that everyone is doing it, but they will bring something to your attention or remind you about it. The annoying thing is that the lists get very repetitive especially when they are all so similar. Like a new san martin release is bascially going to be on every single reviewers list.
@@gz7587 yes, I totally agree, although I will say I think it’s annoying when said video with lists has affiliate links when you know the person hasn’t had the watch in hand but still wants you to buy it so they can get the commission. Most do that, and that’s my beef, having a list video in and of itself is not an issue I have
I love when a watch reviewer comments,
“they reached out to me”
@@c.s2001 well it’s true, I am new to being an aliexpress influencer as they reached out to me. Not sure how long I will be on it though. I have one wafch on the way that I am super excited to highlight where I reached out, fantastic looking watch by a microbrand in the US
tactical seven word comment to help the algorithm.
So many reviewers, most are little more than commercials for the product. Thats why I like ya Mirrly always the straight skinny on your reviews.
@@whit107 the straight skinny I like that thanks whit
I think most viewers are aware of this, but it is good to remind us 👍 . I don't mind reviewers getting free watches and using affiliate links as long as they declare it AND I see them criticise the watches, if every watch is wondeful something is wrong. I still watch channels that charge fees (finding out who takes a while, they should declare this at the start) if they are entertaining, but take their recommendations with a large pinch of salt.
@@dunderhay9169 could not agree more, say so right up front of your video so that people know. Thanks m8 appreciate the feedback!
Thank you for your video! Im a new watch reviewer, but I do it purely for my passion! As Im paying for all my watches lol!
@@WatchSniper l will subscribe to your channel! Nothing wrong with getting to the point where you are offered watches to review or doing aliexpress watches, but be honest about what is happening and for me I would never recommend any watch I didn’t have hands on experience with. Good luck with your channel!!!!
Ali is great when everything goes well but when orders are wrong or packages don’t arrive they don’t want to know no help with the sellers at all so basically buyer beware
I have ordered tons of stuff, including many watches, from Ali and everything has shown up here in southwestern Ontario. A few small things took a bit of time, but everything got here between 8 days and three weeks.
Sorry to hear you have had issues. I have ordered lots to the UK no problems at all. I always get tracking emails, updates on arrival etc.. Works perfectly.
@@anthonydevono8833 that’s very true although I must say I have only ever had a couple of headaches in my experience so far and one of those was a friends wafch loaned to me for review who needed a new bracelet. Ir did take some back and forth to get it but eventually it was sent, thanks for watching m8!
Theres also a point of sustainability for a watch content creator, once they get to the point of monetisation on YT, affiliate links and the causal promoted videos is that they are not going to hang onto all of their watches that they feature so they would end up selling the ones they bought from AliExpress onto places like ebay as an example.
Yessir, spot on!
If I had million I would buy Rolex, Omegas, etc, etc. However I have a regular job with a regular income. Pagani Design, Steeldive etc, etc are within my price range. Anyone unless they and interested in watches could not tell the difference or ever care if you wearing a Rolex or a Pagani. All the AliExpress watches I have had are worth the money.
@@75000cs hey m8, I agree with you wholeheartedly, getting a new pagani soon that is a ap royal oak chronograph homage, op price anywhere from 70-80 grand, I got it for 75 CAD (well for free as I’m in the aliexpress influencer program)
I picked up my 17th Pagani Design watch during the last Summer sale. :)
Nice! I love pagani design, I have 12 currently. I just ordered a Steeldive sd1953 so will compare it to my pagani design at some point
Destroyed the TH-cam watchdom with facts and logic
@@cameronmirrlees6672 lol thanks son
So true dude
I should pay 300$ for a seiko that costs 25$ to
Make at absolute most
Epic
I know exactly what your saying, I only use a select few affiliate links due to how it can be abused. I have removed subs to some, but will not divulge who I have removed.
Thanks m8 I appreciate that and I have done the same
Imagine if they crack the code and change some of the ridiculous names like Mystery Code, Tandorio list goes on. I think they'll skyrocket the sales.
@@juanplus3324 that’s true some of the names are bonkers aren’t they? Thanks for commenting m8
@@MirrlyonTime Yup....awesome watch...stupid name. ie. FeelNever. But I bought it because the watch is so damn good. $53 on sale for a 500M Diver chrono built like a tank.
To play Devil's Advocate:
1. AliExpress affiliate links are now all clearly disclosed in TH-cam videos.
2. The TH-cam watch reviewers that make thier livings providing content (100K+ subscribers) need to produce 3 to 6 videos per week, and reviewing that many watches with fully editing the videos is nearly impossible. If a reviewer is familiar with a brand because they have reviewed several other Sea-Gull, Steeldive, Tandorio, or San Martin Watches, it really isn't a problem for them to call out new releases or top sellers, even if they are yet to produce a full review.
3. More problematic is a constant stream of positive reviews, wherein the reviewer is afraid to point out major flaws for fear the brand or seller will cut off further free review items.
@@PlugInRides thanks plug-in very good points! I appreciate the feedback m8 and please subscribe to the channel as well! Your thoughts are always welcome here
point 3 is the main point by far!
@@serenityinside1 I hear ya m8
Thanks
Came for the clickbait , stayed for the dog in the background
@@aminabellalvaradoaguero9190 Lolol! Thanks m8, truth be told I didn’t realize she was on camera, I knew she was on the couch, but…..haha, I featured her in another video as well haha, thanks for watching
Your honesty is appreciated.
@@seangallagher4997 thanks Sean!
With the huge multitude of often unknown chinese watch brands available upon Aliexpress, Temu, Ebay etc. Some may be truly great value, but some are inevitably going going to be junk costume jewellery, if still amazing value for money unless sellers are profiteering savagely.
Reviewers have been able to point out some of the better brands (which may be good indeed), though comparatively little is heard about the poorer ones that seem so tempting, as their sellers are hardly likely to offer them for review... Prospective buyers will be searching reviewers to investigate brands at all price points.
If you are interested in Horology and start a TH-cam channel, you would probably like to get some return on you start up costs and then your time in making your videos. I understand that for you to become a professional youtuber, you need to publish at least three times a week to get to the big bucks, so I don't see there is much of a problem in how they create that revenue. Plus if you are seriously interested in purchasing a Ali watch you will probably find more than one channel reviewing it, for a second opinion.
@@fattmatt200 very true fattmatt nothing wrong with making a return for your work. That said, be upfront about your motives if that’s the case right from the start. Peddling product you haven’t actually had hands on experience is wrong imo, and some reviewers are getting more than just free watches they charge for their reviews. If receiving free watch potentially biases the reviewer (anyone with common sense knows that it does a little) than how much more would getting paid on top of that slant your bias? I’ve seen it happen.
Hah Chris, the kid's picture for the background of these points is a top tier meme template choice:)
Thanks Andrei! The series was inspired by a mug we have at home that was given to one of my sons I think with the same picture and the iconic line what you talkin bout Willis printed on the mug :) at least this comment made it through haha
@@MirrlyonTime Ah now we are delving deeper into the lore of the naming of the series :) Top notch.
I'm genuinely impressed with how close amzwatch were able to replicate every aspect of this very very goofy looking classic watch.
I always take any watch "review" with a huge grain of salt. I don't expect any watch reviewer to be making these videos purely from the goodness of their heart. Ain't nobody got time for that.
But I do appreciate being shown new watches I'd have probably never discovered on my own. If I'm interested, then I'll dig deeper.
Sometimes, I get more information from the comments than from the review. I think it was from the comments section of some video that first exposed Benyar watches for actually being alloy rather than the claimed stainless.
@@michaelhorn8962 yes great points Michael! Whenever you purchase something you neee to do your research. I do pride myself in giving honest reviews even if the watch is free, which it seldom is for me but it won’t be long before I am able to get some more in the magic number seems to be 5k subscribers.
Check out this video of a watch that was sent to me for free, and the initial unboxing comments revealed it was a drop ship of an addies dive model. I offered to return the watch (my cost) to the owner as I knew bringing up the info would hurt his brand. His nasty reply prompted me to do this video….
How Some Microbrands Are Ripping You Off!!
th-cam.com/video/grbfHvNqIi8/w-d-xo.html
Too many watch channels nowadays only present the watches, they hardly review them. Simon and Gary are exceptions, I wish there were more
@@cedarcanoe I invite you to check out my channel! I do reviews too, I’m sure both Simon and Gary will vouch for me :)
Agree. But I’ve not offered any affiliate links, yet. Haven’t become a peddler.
Nothing wrong with having affiliate links and you should get set up for it, if you need help email me at mirrlyontime@gmail.com My issue as stated in the video is pushing watches and links that you have no hands on experience with. Thanks for watching and best of luck with your channel! I will subscribe to it :)
Interesting insight! I actually just talked about the moonswatch and noted Aliexpress.
@@holygrailwatches-rd5lv definitely much better watches/homages that are better to get imo than that moonswatch. Thanks for watching
@@holygrailwatches-rd5lv just subscribed to your channel, best of luck with it and with its growth!
I couldn't help notice, my sons dog does the same thing. Lol
@@billsomerset238 that hilarious I didn’t realize she was in the video until I went to edit it lol thanks for watching
Watch reviewers that never say never are the ones to stop watching. I seen people who like every watch they get. Never a problem, never a care. Where is this person buying from? Not where we do!😊
@@RichSDet thanks Rich, appreciate it
Preach Chris, Preach 👊🏾
@@SpaceG95 thanks m8
The reviewers I watch are usually upfront with their affiliates, and that they make money from this. I have no issue with this. When I see a watch, I usually look at a number of reviews to get an idea as to whether the reviews are factual.
@@ItsMe-kj2xb thanks m8 appreciate the feeedback!
Thanks for the video!!!! Well said!!!! Cheers!!!
@@BCallum thanks Bill
Great video. A lot of watch reviewers lack any sort of class and are basically 'watch influencers' i.e. professional beggers. Use my affiliate link, top ten list, won't affect the review etc. etc. Anything to make a cheap buck. Ali watches are great quality for the price but where are the original designs? I would rather see an interesting new design over the same copy+paste Sub, Willard or whatever else is being produced.
@@st4ndaman you are not alone in this, and I plan on having a conversation soon with the smartest watch guy I know about this very issue, the place homage watches should have in the watch collecting world and issues of originality and development etc
@@MirrlyonTime I look forward to that video. Ignore the comments from any salty watch 'reviewers'. This will have clearly touched a nerve.
These you tube reviews turn into a giant circle jerk when companies pass out watches to reviewers and they all drool about how amazing these watches are, and say little to nothing substantially bad about these watches. Otherwise they wouldn't get free watches to sell on the open market. Their reviews are valueless. They would have credibility by returning all watches to the manufacturer, but that will never happen.
No drooling here I won’t receive a watch if I can’t give an honest review of it
Thanks for the great video. And you have some great points, but I actually don’t mind Watch Reviewers recommending watches they haven’t handled especially from a brand they are familiar with. I personally think it would be impossible just to talk about only products you’ve handled whether it’s watches, cars, frying pans, or whatever. Thanks again!
@@adk7962 I make the same point in sum video here unless of course that part got
Edited out for final production of it haha, can’t remember but yes as long as a reviewer has confidence in a brand I don’t see a problem talking about other watches from said brand
You got robbed at 100us for the bb58. Great watch, wait for a sale.😂
I got it for 84 USD, sorry I was referencing the Canadian price, im from Ontario Canada haha. Thanks for watching m8
@@MirrlyonTime better, I paid about 50us for the red one, absolutely love it. ❤
@@keithmclean3627 50?! Wow. There is one particular store I think where I could have got it for that but unfortunately they don’t deliver to my address…..booooo
I just opened my order from the last big sale 😢 they not only sent the wrong watch the dial is crooked and the insert doesn't line up I have the same watch already and it was great tandorio is going down hill fast I always recommend them this watch is absolutely terrible very poor printing on dial and it's totally crooked never again I have had enough trash I'm selling all my ali trash the tools to fix the defective crap they sold me.all of it it will be so nice to never see another crappy homage
Reach out to Leon at the tandoorio official store I am sure he will take care of you. I got two tandoorios with my own logo custom on the dial and I was quite pleased with both, a field watch and a Seiko monster homage. And Leon was great to deal with via the message section on aliexpress app. But yeah, I haven’t had too many bad experiences with watches from aliexpress but I definitely have and can understand why you would want to stay away
👍👍
Thanks scatter
Ali Express is tempting but im stick to my old 3 Casio watches.
@@vipeton.8927 I get it! What three Casios do you have?
@@MirrlyonTime mtp-v007, a178 and f91w
I stay with one watch, orient star. Japanese, high quality, unique, future classic.
@@Crownof12stars can’t go wrong with a good Orient, fantastic watches! Would definitely take one over a San martin all day and twice on Sunday
It is actually hard to go wrong with Casio. They make excellent watches, and most are very affordable. My own "three Casios" are one G-Shock and two Casio Duros. And I own over a hundred watches. Every collection should have at least three Casios in it!
for one pArt I love this work and the result and the process but on the other side I'm starting to think I'm not that good at it, so far it takes me ages to finish the videos, have had to return 1 watch already, the brand that said me was gonna send me one for free stoped replying my emails, think their expectations are like me reading a script or something, idk 🥴
Hey m8 just subscribed to your channel. Haven’t watched any videos as I just did but I will and give you some thoughts if you want. As long as you are having fun and have a genuine enthusiasm for the hobby you will do ok. Don’t worry about getting watches at this point as it takes time to develop a reputation. I would beware of any that want you to say anything “scripted” a watch brand/company should be confident enough in their product to come under scrutiny but if there is scripted portions just let your audience know. Thanks for watching this one m8!
@@MirrlyonTime thanks a lot, and yeah loved your video, no hype or anything just facts 👌👌
Good video.
W**Watches must be on a tasty retainer from Ali as every watch is "style personified" or "the epitome' of elegance for $40"
Thanks
@@lew9223 ahh, yeah nothing wrong with being an affiliate as I am one myself, my beef is with those who push sales and lists of watches they have had no hands on experience with. Thanks for watching Lew appreciate it, and please subscribe if you don’t mind, God bless m8!
Yep, he does that too "5 amazing watch haul coming right up"
I'm a subscriber, best wishes from Scotland
@@lew9223 if it’s not scottish it’s crrrrraaaap! My great grandfather immigrated to collingwood Ontario Canada frim Glasgow
Inexpensive not cheap.
@@gregtolley3455 I hear ya thanks
I must say that I agree with your pet peeve =)
@@mad4watches thanks friend, just subscribed to your channel as well
@@MirrlyonTime thank brother 🤜🤛
Interesting video mate. I know you’re one of the good guys but if I didn’t I have to be honest and say this smells a little bit like you’re having a go at channels for doing well. I’m not saying I don’t agree with many points you’ve made but I just don’t see the reason to try and out people, I’d rather just stay in my own lane tbh but each to their own. Keep doing you man 👍👍
You and Gary are definitely a couple of the good ones. I’ve never felt either one of you were trying to “sell” watches versus just wanting to talk about watches! Thanks!
@@adk7962 I appreciate that mate and knowing Gary personally, I know he is aligned with me on keeping everything 100% honest and maintaining our integrity. Thanks again man 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime not at all Simon, I as you know celebrate the success if my friends channels and if I wanted to call out channels I could have but I chose not too because that’s not what this video is about, and true story, in my original
Video I signal out your channel, Gary’s and watching James as channels I highly recommend to people, but I left that out because I felt this one was being too wordy at that point…..not trying to out people, if you recall another video I did about a microbrand company that was merely drop shipping aliexpress watches I did a video about without mentioning the company name. Appreciate you as always!
@@MirrlyonTime I know you mate, so I know the sort of motivation you’d have had to make the video, I just hope others do to as I’ve always thought of you as one of the good guys. Have a blessed weekend man 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime thanks pal for the reassurance I appreciate you big time!
Also when the reviewer makes 10 community posts a day about watches they are “Pulling the trigger” on, stay tuned for the upcoming review, or already reviewed.
@@imaginekarma8582 ahhhh yes! Very true. Seen those too
I'll find a decent selection of cheaper watches (with decent specs) on eBay too.
@@bangzoom8180 very true some good finds to be had on eBay for sure
Boo Hoo. Hate the game not the player. Know what I hate? Talking about other channels. Run your own and don't hate anyone who has a much more popular channel.
@@DocWat280 dude I am running my own and I wasn’t slamming any channel in particular but sharing a general observation of something that, IN MY OPINION, bothers me. And you’re bloody ignorant m8, if you knew me you would know that I celebrate the success of other folks channels. I don’t hate any of them, ignorant comments like yours on the other hand….
One reviewer gave a great review of a watch and I mentioned a vendor that had said watch on sale.
Reviewer, instead of assisting their viewers, nuked my post!
That stinks! I’m all about helping people if there is a better deal to be had on a watch I’m happy to point people in that direction. Thanks for watching m8 and please subscribe :)
@@MirrlyonTime sad thing is the Casio MTD-1053D being reviewed had no affiliate link in the review.
$75 (black), $105 (blue), $60 shipped from Europe!
it's most likely youtube that deletes your comments not reviewers.. every single mention of any sort of product placement is automatically deleted. i once just mentioned buy me a coffee in a comment without any links or anything like that, just a general mention of it and the comment god deleted by youtube.
@@SemiDad and a Casio at that! What was it a 25 dollar watch? Crazy to get your nickers in a twist about that!
@@MirrlyonTime $75 (black) & $105 (blue) on Amazon. $60 shipped from Europe.
The Chinese watches are quality and inexpensive. Variety is amazing like a flying tourbillion for under $200,
@@rrich52806 what watch are you talking about that has a real tourbillon?
I mainly dislike those channels because they perform so much better than mine; my distaste is fueled purely on jealousy.
I’m not jealous, I am happy to see my friends channels growing to be honest.
@@MirrlyonTime uh huh, what you said😈
What are you wearing during this vid?
A handful of my aliexpress watches
@@MirrlyonTime on your wrist?
@@johnrb9397 Pagani Design PD 1671 homage of a Tudor black bay. Will be doing a video on it soon comparing it to an earlier version, to show whether or not PD is making improvements. One step forward two steps back unfortunately, and cannot recommend this particular watch, stay tuned!
@@MirrlyonTime thanks 🙏
@@johnrb9397 my pleasure
Interesting topic! It is quite complex and I think there are arguments both ways. I think ultimately there should also be some trust in the audience, us viewers, that many of us are capable of watching objectively and being able to decipher bias from paid reviews whether we know its paid for or not.
To be honest im a bit of a cynic and assume there is gonna be bias in videos I watch and skip over all the notifications about whether its sponseres or paid or whatever. I actually dont care so much because Im gonna watch the video objectively and with my own interpretation. But thats me and everyone is different.
Also important to have a healthy conversation about it on both sides of the fence. I like how your video doesnt name and shame anyone and your just providing info. There are some comments in here naming and shaming and I dont think thats helpful to anyone or the best approach to "fix" whatever the problem is. Thanks again for this video.
Thanks mk as I said in my video (at least I think I kept it in)’there is nothing wrong with making money doing this, I think the problem lies with some of the practices that show me anyways that some have transitioned slightly from doing this out of the pure love of the hobby and wanting to make money the priority and not the love of watches which leads to compromise, but you are absolutely bang on a viewer with common sense is able to figure out quite quickly whether or not someone is genuinely promoting a watch or brand or is a mere shill for it. Bias cannot be avoided, I admit my bias for Timex over Casio in some of my videos for example, but bias has nothing to do with my biggest pet peeve mentioned here which is promoting watches that you don’t even have or have had, and provide affiliate links for them. That to me is just wrong and I don’t follow channels myself that do this. Great feedback mk thank you for that.
@MirrlyonTime Thanks for takin the time to read my comment and detailed a response! I agree with you. Except on the timex vs casio! Haha Thanks again! =)
@@mk84142 my pleasure and we
Can still be friends despite your disagreement with my take on Timex. For me, Timex will always hold a special place in my heart and will be doing more on Timex here soon. Thanks so much for watching and weighing in and I hope you have subscribed, god bless m8!
Couldn't you also start a channel by getting watches from Amazon? (Free returns!)
@@michaelhorn8962 I have never thought of it that way Michael, now that is something to ponder, although I’m sure they would be quick to catch on :) thanks for watching m8
@@MirrlyonTime Amazon might not send you free watches to review, but they ALSO have an affiliate program that pays you for every order placed through the link you post. And some people make a pretty good living this way. Buy something, review it, post a link, and get paid. Of course, this works best with larger channels since the more subscribers you have the more likely that more orders will be placed. And if enough of your subscribers make orders, then it really doesn't matter what you paid for the watch.
@@Marty4650 true Marty but I believe Michael was suggesting buying the watch, reviewing and it returning it since Amazon has such a good return policy hehe, as I said to him wouldn’t take long for them to catch on
At least Jody tells us he pros and cons. Being paid or not. ⚙️🕐🍸
Jody is the worst culprit, he spent years telling people he wasn’t getting paid when he was! 🤦🏻♂️ he only stopped when I emailed him and told him it was wrong! You can’t play an alarm, claim you only got a free watch all the while charging huge cash fees for your content. It’s outrageous that he got away with it for as long as he did.
@@ILikeWatches2 Interesting information. Thank you. I just remember calling him out that the particular video was sponsored. If he didn’t do that when it was affiliate link sponsoring only then I didn’t notice it. Maybe because I never click on affiliate links. Okay, I am starting to hate him now. Or at least when my Erebus Ascent arrives and it is a bad watch. :D
He now says sponsored because I emailed him and told him to stop lying about getting paid. When reviewers say sponsored they are telling you the charge a cash fee with telling you they charge a cash fee…I think it’s their way of clearing their conscience…it doesn’t go far enough.
@@ILikeWatches2 However, thank you for telling me and thank you for emailing him!
@@ILikeWatches2didn't you get into trouble with TH-cam over something to do with Jodie in the past?
I used to watch Jody on Just One More Watch but I soon got sick of his channel when I noticed that EVERY video of his was sponsored content, with the watch supplied by the seller/manufacturer. He can say that doesn't influence his "reviews" but it must to some degree - otherwise watch manufacturers would stop supplying him with watches. As a result, no free product to review, so less content for him to make, so less potential revenue from affiliate links and TH-cam. I unsubscribed from his channel.
Well, I have it on good authority that Jody was not just receiving a free watch he was also getting paid for the reviews. In fact, Tandoirio offered to pay me 100 dollars for the review, I refused and said that the watch was payment enough (as I will be able to sell it if I want to), and I don’t do any reviews on watches sent unless I can say what I want to. Nothing wrong with getting watches sent for free, as long as everything is properly disclosed. I insubbed to Jody’s for that reason
I really despise Ali Express watches, they steal IP and build them with child slave labor. I've bought 2 of them early in my collecting and they are my biggest watch regrets. They both have had problems. I have too much self respect to buy another one.
Thanks m8 appreciate that, and totally understand your point. What ones did you buy?
@@MirrlyonTime Boderry Checkmate and the obligatory Seagull 1963.
@@LenRedeemingTheTime that’s funny the obligatory seagull 1963 haha, I haven’t obliged to that one yet, actually the only thing I like about it is the movement I’m hoping to get a watch with that movement in the future. What about them are your biggest watch regrets?
Child slave labour? Do you have anything to back that statement up?
You too don't get it! Like I said on other channels, you can load these Chinese junk watches with all the specs you want, it still has a Pagani Design stamped logo on it!!! You're just cheating yourself by buying a Rolex clone because you cannot afford it!!! I once took that route but quickly realised that I don't want to put on a chinese watch with a stupid snorkling guy stamped on it just because it looks like a Rolex. Who are we kidding? And everytime you look at that dial, you know that you're just fooling yourself. You see a brand name is everything, whether you like it or not. If you cannot buy a Rolex, you can for only 200 or 300$, buy yourself a nice Seiko or a Citizen or a G-SHOCK or an Orient... These are brands with heritage, brand recognition and durability that you'd be proud to wear. Stop promoting these watches even if you want to start a channel. It is not good advice.
@@cougarbatterie thanks for sharing your opinion cougar. And when I look at the dial I am not fooling myself, nobody is, I know it’s a homage watch. And just because it is a Chinese brand doesn’t mean that it isn’t a good watch m8, so no one is being kidded here, people know what these watches are and like myself many many people who can’t afford a Rolex are more than happy to own a Chinese homage watch.
To your point about buying a citizen or a Seiko, I agree, for example why I won’t buy a San Martin. I’ll spend 100 bucks (or 80usd) on a Chinese homage all day and twice on Sunday before I spend 200 more when that could buy as you say a heritage piece. So don’t presume what I or anyone else is feeling (kidding ourselves) when we wear these watches, I am a proud owner of many homage pieces of watches that I cannot afford.
@@MirrlyonTime Sorry my friend, a person who buys basically a copy and paste of a Rolex or an Omega is fooling himself, even if he knows that it is a homage watch. If these Chinese watches weren't a homage to iconic brands, would you still buy them? Of course not! You just want the looks of a Rolex without paying the hefty price. If this is not cheating on yourself, what is it then? And for God sake, don't ever compare the quality of an addiesdive dive to a Seiko that makes watches since 1881. You're just being ridiculous.
@@cougarbatterie now who is being ridiculous. Just because a company has been making watches since 1881 or whatever doesn’t make them a better watch, a brand yes a watch no. San Martin watches are fantastic and offer far better value for dollar spec wise than a 200 dollar Seiko. And the answer to your question, would I buy an 80 dollar watch from aliexpress if it didn’t look like a Rolex, is yes, since they make good watches for the money. Move on and troll someone else m8, I believe the term used to describe you is watch snob, and you’re a big one
@@MirrlyonTime Listen how pathetic you are: did you just say that a company that makes watches since 1881, doesn't mean that they make better watches then a 5 year old Chinese brand that buys Miyota movement from the Japanese and copy great brands with zero innovation! Did you just say that?!!!😂😂😂 Yep, you're a hopeless case!
@@cougarbatterie You have a very strong opinion on the matter. And that is fine. Hell, in some ways I agree with you. A company making watches for 100+ years adds something to the design and choices that go into making a watch. There is nothing better than having a model line for 50 years that you keep making small adjustments to in the pursuit of improving the core concept behind the watch. However, that does not always equate to an objectively superior end product. Would I still prefer the heritage over the potentially marginally better components? Personally, yes, absolutely yes. But that is a personal opinion, based on my values. Just like yours is your own personal taste and opinion. Others might have a different opinion that is equally valid (or invalid) from an objective stance. You should also consider the fact that you are interacting with a guy that is doing videos as a passion project to reflect what he likes about collecting watches. He is not obligated to cater to anyone else's tastes than his own. Be respectful or move along.
Great video man. Truth. 🍸🍸
Thanks Norm!