Tucktec vs Sea Eagle | Inflatable Kayak or Folding Kayak?

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  • @PaddleTV
    @PaddleTV  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @yobbo252
    @yobbo252 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I just took the latest model Tucktec down a 9 mile river with a couple decent sized class I rapids and i was surprised at the performance. I did hit a large wave that went over the front of the boat and filled the boat with a little bit of water but it was still very easy to paddle it to a sand bank and drain the water out. Overall I’m very happy with the Tucktec but I feel like a class II limitation for it is more reasonable. Love your videos.

    • @PaddleTV
      @PaddleTV  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Love to hear you're enjoying the boat! Let me just say one thing... the limitations aren't geared around the 90% of the time that things works out in your favor, the limitations are based on what can happen if things don't work out. For example, if that wave was a bit bigger, or your kayak was turned sideways when you hit it, or if there were a series of those waves, the outcome could be very different.

    • @cookefamilyonmission
      @cookefamilyonmission 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have taken my tucktec down class I &II rapids without any problems. I agree class II max.
      Fishing is important to many kayakers. Adding the higher probability of puncture with fishing equipment with inflatable kayaks, I would go with the newer tucktec any day.
      I have never swamped the tucktec or punctured it
      (River hack: always carry a tube of epoxy for any emergency repairs to any hard plastic kayaks)

  • @kimschmutzler1910
    @kimschmutzler1910 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    We left our Tucktec assembled, which if you can this really expedites the launching. Found it was perfect for the all the waters in the PNW, except fast rivers. When a rivet once failed, it was an easy patch to complete and Tucktec sent us another for shipping costs only.

  • @larrythoman9661
    @larrythoman9661 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I’ve had a Sea Eagle 330 for about 10 years now. I’ve been a regular paddler since about 1990 and have solo and tandem royalex canoes and a C1. I’ve paddled up to several Class 4 rivers. While I like the maneuverability of those boats, they also require quite a bit of upkeep as whitewater can be hard on boats. I’ve paddled the 330 on rivers up to Class 3. It has a surprising amount of maneuverability for an inflatable with fixed (non-removable) skegs. The only problem I had in whitewater was it “tacoing” in a large hole. But even then, it straightened right back out, and although full of water, I paddled to shore, dumped water out, and I was on my way again. I’ve also had a few tears, but after a quick emergency repair, was able to complete the trip without any major issues. One was in the middle of a weeklong trip in the Boundary Waters. It is much more comfortable than any of my hard boats, especially on those multi-day canoe camping trips. I often feel I’m paddling a big air pillow. Which brings up its only downside on flatwater-it sits high up on the water so keeping it moving straight in any amount of wind can be a struggle. Overall, a great boat, and especially one for under $300!

    • @zibbielanham
      @zibbielanham 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A 330 is Perfect for One and a Dog, which is why I got a 2nd one for the other human.😅 Aside, it was also great in class 3 rapids for me.

  • @jasonfleck8929
    @jasonfleck8929 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love the reviews and comparisons Ken! Would love to see a head to head between yhe Oru Coast and the Pakayak. Keep up the good work!!!

    • @PaddleTV
      @PaddleTV  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      mmmmm. that would be a good one! :)

  • @slighwentwalking2024
    @slighwentwalking2024 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've seen many sea eagle kayaks on the water.
    They make several different models.
    A boat that fills with water is a problem 🤔
    Although possible it's far less likely in a Sea Eagle.
    We paddle all year long in Florida. I would opt for
    safety with a boat that floats. Not doing so puts you
    and potentially people rescuing you at risk.

  • @KZ-yu4jz
    @KZ-yu4jz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice review. I would spend a few more bucks and get a SE370 instead of the SE330. The SE380X is a far superior kayak, but costs quite a bit more. We took our SE370 on some class II whitewater and it was a blast. The soft kayak flexed a lot in the waves which was a lot of fun. The SE370 has a drop stich floor and firmer tubes so it is a lot more solid, durable, and the drain plugs can be opened to turn it into a self bailing(water drains from bottom of floor) kayak

  • @kayakRaf
    @kayakRaf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video Ken. You forgot to mention a missing pro for the Tucktec. That being the skeg doesnt build up on any debris/weed as it simply pivots up and over, opposite to fixed skegs on inflatables. Keep em coming. Would like you to do a review of the Tucktec Boto ultralight weight folding kayak - I see Pete is already on here

  • @palicar
    @palicar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I’m a US trucker and I’m tempted to make room for a portable kayak.

    • @Rottingboards
      @Rottingboards 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Anything that gets your body moving and is enjoyable. I would also suggest looking into small folding bicycle. And cost...well it is cheaper than heart surgery.

    • @palicar
      @palicar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Rottingboards thanks for the tip. Folding bikes are no good. Full size bikes are the ticket. Usually roll with the Santa Cruz gravel but this trip it’s the steel road bike for KOM hunting. 🤙

    • @Rottingboards
      @Rottingboards 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@palicar This gentleman also does a review on the Sea Eagle 393rl RazorLite Pro Solo Inflatable Kayak Package. I would recommend it if you can spare the change.

    • @geschichteundreisen1154
      @geschichteundreisen1154 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hallo, i use the Advanced Elements Advanced Frame Convertible TM Elite as Tandem , you can use it tandem or solo, i have good review about it even as sea kayak.

    • @nodelo15
      @nodelo15 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do it I'm a private investigator and I travel a ton for work having an inflatable kayak has allowed me to pretty much kayak anytime and anywhere in Florida
      Fits perfectly in the trunk of my sedan with the rest of my gear

  • @cowmancheese
    @cowmancheese 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome review, glad to see the channel growing!

  • @JanosPlesko
    @JanosPlesko 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Tucktec can certainly handle more than "flat water". We've taken ours on busy urban rivers and windy lakes dozens of times. Swells and waves from 1-3 feet. Bounced around in choppy pyramid caps. It takes a little skill, but we soon found ourselves seeking out swells and wakes to ride, much like a novice skier avoids moguls and a more experienced one enjoys them. It's extremely fun. The video is correct, however, that the Tucktec is not for any kind of white water. Get your comfort level up and don't worry about choppy waters -- but do stay off of rapids.

    • @PaddleTV
      @PaddleTV  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Be careful out there! Any recreational kayak that doesn't have buoyancy (bulkheads or float bags, or air filled compartments) aren't designed for rough water. It's not that they can't handle being in that type of water when you're upright and paddling, it's because they're not setup to deal with situations when things don't go as planned. How do you deal with a completely swamped Tucktec (or any recreational kayak without flotation) when you're in the middle of the lake with 1-3 foot swells? That's the big difference between mogul skiing and kayaking in rough conditions. If you fall mogul skiing, everything stops and you can collect the pieces and slowly start to go again at your own pace. When you're in rough water, there's no stopping when you 'fall'. You're in a highly dynamic environment.

    • @JanosPlesko
      @JanosPlesko 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PaddleTV Got my Tucktec in 2021. Taken it out in choppy, windy waters dozens and dozens of times. It doesn't swamp as easily as you present. A little water gets in with splashes but no big deal. Choppy wakes or swells are different from water that crests then crashes. A Tucktec will ride a 3' swell with no problem -- with its open cockpit, a 3' wave is a different story. I wouldn't take it out in the ocean or any kind of rapids -- anywhere with crests or "white" water -- but big lakes and rivers with wind and speed boats and freighters and jet skis all around is fine as long as any of them don't run into you. If you restrict taking your Tucktec out on flat lakes, you might as well stay in the couch.

    • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
      @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaddleTV I'm on both Tucktec & ORU FB groups. A NUMBER of people have reported & posted photos of both kayaks taking on water, usually due to improper setup, and they have to swim back. If I had one of those kayaks, I'd want to stay very close to shore all the time, and make sure I'm able to get out of the water if I had to or that it is so shallow I could walk back.
      The ORU Lake which does suffer this this issue too at least has the advantage that they setup extremely fast to setup, and are so light you can back pack them a good distance easily, and they aren't too much more expensive, but still more expensive. I think the SE330 is however also much more likely to last a lot longer in terms of durability.

    • @JanosPlesko
      @JanosPlesko 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 It'll take on water if you don't know what you're doing. Gradual exposure will increase your skill. Panic will do you in. Keep frosty, don't go past your own comfort level, and ALWAYS wear a life jacket. I recently capsized in some rapids. I went in the water and immediately it felt like someone had grabbed my ankles and was pulling me down -- it was the hidden current beneath. Then a second later it felt like someone grabbed me under the arms and pulled me back up -- it was my life jacket. I'm a good swimmer but have no idea what would have happened without a PFD. I suspect there was a turbulent tunnel of water down there that led straight to Davy Jones's locker.

    • @glrendon81
      @glrendon81 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@classicarcadeamusementpark4242
      I’ve had one of my two tucktecs for 3 years now and neither of mine have ever swamped, and I take them on all the lakes and the Mississippi in the Minneapolis area all the time. I wouldn’t do a river trip with any kind of rapids or speed or go out on Lake Superior with one - I would only do that with a rental kayak suited for the job - but for most situations I’m in as a recreational paddler the tucktec works fine. I wouldn’t use it if I felt I had to just stick to shore - that would defeat the purpose. It’s really not that delicate.

  • @JiTiKeRo
    @JiTiKeRo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use a Tucktec from 2020 i think. I agree with Ken it's best for calm water, which can include slower moving rivers. If swamped it can float depending. No one entering kayaking should even attempt challenging waters and PLEASE wear a properly fitted pfd. I've used my Tucktec a lot and recommend for casual use. Super fun!

    • @PaddleTV
      @PaddleTV  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing!

  • @zibbielanham
    @zibbielanham 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I keep thinking of great things to say about my 330 experiences. If he were still alive, my great dane Wallis would convince you-- he loved to be in it with me, and was comfortable-- even excited-- for a paddle ride.

  • @liznewman4209
    @liznewman4209 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ken , I have the Sea Eagle 330 and I put a small ice chest up front for foot support it works really well and serves double duty.

  • @bongopirate0672
    @bongopirate0672 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had my Tucktec for a couple years and use it for fishing--- GREAT

  • @robertpeet8880
    @robertpeet8880 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I decided to get back on the water when the Hobie iTrek 9 caught my eye. But the price slowed me down. And as much as pedaling seemed to be a luxurious way to spend time on the water, a little bit of upper body workout wouldn't hurt.
    So I went looking for an entry level paddler to play with. After reading all about inflatables, the folding kayaks caught my eye. I really like the idea of not having to blow something up.
    Then I watched a few videos of people trying to reenter from the water. Foldables definitely need to find a way to add more buoyancy. Too bad those little nose and tail cone floats aren't quite big enough.
    So I've bought a used Sea Eagle 370 at a garage sale. That has done nothing but encourage me to start shopping for my upgrade.

    • @PaddleTV
      @PaddleTV  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great to hear! If you're looking for a higher performance portable kayak that has buoyancy built in, take a look at the Pakayak. It's quite a bit more expensive, but it offers performance (fast and fun to paddle, and can handle the roughest water), but it's still stable enough for any paddler to enjoy it.

  • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
    @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The SE330 was my first kayak, and I was very happy with it for not a lot of money. I eventually upgraded to a Sea Eagle Paddleski because I wanted to use a motor & full sail rig. And later, I also bought a Razorlite for fast easy paddling.
    No surprise on the Tucktec except, I would have expected a fairly significant increase in speed and effort in paddling over the SE330 although nothing like that of the Razorlite. I also would have expected the Tucktec to setup a lot faster, but according to your review, both the speed & setup time are barely any faster. The SE330 clearly wins on all other points, and also. I hear the seat is much more comfortable in the SE330. I have three SE330's because I bought two more used ones cheap, all over 10 years old. I believe they all hold air fine still, but I rarely still use them only because I have more expensive models. Great starter inflatable kayak for sure.

  • @DyceFreak
    @DyceFreak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    With portables; since you're sacrificing speed anyways; I prefer inflatable SUPs for even more versatility+pet/load carrying ability.

  • @zibbielanham
    @zibbielanham 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've now got two 330 outfits-- rapids were my qualifier. I easily manage Class 3 rapids and a windy, high mountain lake in a 330.

  • @alexarmenta9930
    @alexarmenta9930 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’d recommend the newest model of the Tucktec for review

    • @PaddleTV
      @PaddleTV  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It would have been ideal to have the latest version, but there's no big changes/updates that would significantly impact my review. It still has the same limitations.

    • @pkc2161
      @pkc2161 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We've actually made a bunch of improvements since this model! Our 2024 is only 20lbs, easier to assemble, tracks and performs better, and includes a better stock seat. We'd love to get a current model to PaddleTV to review! If you're interested, let me know, and we'll get in touch!
      Thanks,
      Pete
      Tucktec Folding Kayaks

    • @alexarmenta9930
      @alexarmenta9930 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pete, you’re an amazing owner and I’m glad you replied to this comment. I remember seeing the tucktec on here and it helped me to make my purchase. I know for a fact if the new model would be reviewed here, it will help many to decide to go with Tucktec :)
      Tucks are amazing!

    • @pkc2161
      @pkc2161 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @alexarmenta9930 I'm the general manager of the company, I'm not smart enough to come up with something this cool lol. But the actual owner is pretty amazing too, and I really appreciate the sentiment! Hoping @PaddleTV takes us up on the offer!

    • @r1sabotage
      @r1sabotage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any update on getting Paddletv the latest tucktec to review?

  • @Rottingboards
    @Rottingboards 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Sea Eagle RazorLite 473 might be more in price than these two but I think is worth it. 🙂 Great review of these lower cost kayaks.

    • @PaddleTV
      @PaddleTV  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Razorlite boats are really nice! Definitely a major upgrade though, both in price and performance.

  • @Jon_from_LI
    @Jon_from_LI 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a brief correction, the Sea Eagle 370 (which is longer than the 330) is the one that's meant for more than one adult; I'm pretty sure the 330 is meant for one adult and possibly one child/pet if you have them.

  • @rusty-oc2tj
    @rusty-oc2tj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that sea eagle is looking so comfy to sleep in and would be easy beach camping, no camp set up, find a nice spot and spend the night

  • @calabrais
    @calabrais 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ok so what about this Sea Eagle vs the Oru Lake.. 🤔

  • @glrendon81
    @glrendon81 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a sea eagle fasttrack 385 (more expensive model) and two tucktecs, and I would say my usage is 80/20 in favor of my tucktec. It’s light, easy to assemble without car pumps, easy to dry off and clean and can stay in my trunk all summer. I also think that because it’s light, it feels to me easier to paddle. I save the more cumbersome and heavy sea eagle for longer river trips (because it’s more comfy), bringing a friend along, kayak camping or large lakes like MN Burntside Lake.
    I will say that I have swamped my tucktec in waves but it still stayed afloat with me at 215 in it - the plastic is very buoyant. But I did have a wet butt until I got to shore. I don’t think it’s that delicate (taken it on Mississippi and St. Croix, 7,000 acre wavy Burntside lake, etc). I take a pump with me in case on those waters. I also like that you can lift up the skeg in shallow river water - in the sea eagle 385, the fixed skeg always hits rocks on shallow rivers. But really depends on your usage. What I love about my 385 is it can be one or two people. But my tucktec is my default on the lakes and stretch of Mississippi in Minneapolis.

    • @PaddleTV
      @PaddleTV  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing! Great to hear from someone with both!

  • @jacobnieves7728
    @jacobnieves7728 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Inflatables are great but I HATE packing mine away after a trip. So much so that I stopped kayaking until I could buy a regular kayak 😂

    • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
      @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you have a truck or something you can throw one in I'd probably agree. But for small car owners, I think an inflatable is a lot easier than trying to throw a hard shell on the roof unless you have an extremely expensive rack that automatically lowers. Also a lot safer that you don't have to worry about it falling off the roof can causing an accident on a trip. Taking my Sea Eagle Paddleski hybrid inflatable kayak/boat from New England to Key West as we speak in the trunk. Also concealed out of view from being stolen instead of advertised like a hard shell would be. I have a powerful Toqeedo lithium motor and full sail rig for it.
      This is the 15th season of using my Sea Eagle inflatable. It's been used more than 500 times, at probably something like 200 different locations...And it's never been patched!

  • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
    @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Ken, I'm curious to see what you think of the new 10 lbs Tucktec Boto kayak. It seems to sell for about $250. Or is it total junk? And is it even safe, or too likely to be swimming back with it?
    I've been curious about something very light weight to go hiking to remote ponds, or taking on public transportation. I have several Sea Eagle's that I love, including three SE330's but I mostly use their higher end kayaks.
    But 10 lbs, that's as light as I've seen. And it's cheap too. AquaGlide's Cirrus 110 is 15 lbs and was ground breaking in weight, and certainly looks a lot better, but it's $1300 without pump or paddle.
    I'd also like to have something to throw in the water & take out as quickly as possible for short paddles on those days I only have a half hour. I live 1 mile from a lake. It would have to be completely towel dry before going back in my car. My Sea Eagles would be my kayaks of choice, but for those special uses I mentioned I wouldn't mind having something 10 lbs and cheap that wouldn't get use too often, and ideally something that sets up & tears down completely dry extremely quick. A 10 lbs kayak could be taken on a bicycle.

  • @katieo2131
    @katieo2131 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone with hearing aids I'm very afraid of capsizing or "swamping out" I know there is no 100% guarantee I'll stay dry, due to being surrounded by water, but is there one you would suggest over the other for that fear? I've heard inflatables capsize easier but I'd love to get your opinion, if you wouldn't mind. (I'm a good swimmer and can definitely keep my head out of the water as long as I don't get ejected)

  • @donnazukowski
    @donnazukowski 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want a portable kayak for recreational. I heard the downside to inflatables is to dry. I also plan on getting a pakayak but that is for larger bodies of water.

    • @PaddleTV
      @PaddleTV  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pakayak is just coming out with a sit-on-top portable kayak. It's designed for fishing, but I think it will be a great recreational sit-on-top. Hope to test it soon and find out!

    • @donnazukowski
      @donnazukowski 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PaddleTVKen, thank you for the reply. Most likely I will get a packayak for larger/more active water and a tuctek for the small rivers and streams here in NJ. Our streams, swamps and small rivers get very shallow in areas with tree limbs sticking out of the water and pebbled bottoms. An inflatable won’t cut it. It also makes me have more $$$ for the pakayak. Great channel. I’m hooked!

  • @shyninja
    @shyninja 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any chance you could compare the advanced elements aframe kayak vs the oru kayak lake?

    • @PaddleTV
      @PaddleTV  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be a good one! Stay tuned... I don't have the Oru Lake yet, but hope to test it soon.

  • @samljer
    @samljer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    330: water inside? your wet, but your paddling
    tucktec: water inside? youre swimming.
    lol

  • @BoomVang
    @BoomVang 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No excuse to remain kayakless 😃

    • @DyceFreak
      @DyceFreak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stand Up Paddleboards are my excuse.

  • @JSabh
    @JSabh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Garbage kayak. Seen many fail in real life when in the sailing community that actually depend on their dinghy/kayak. It is completely trash. Never buy a folding kayak, Amazon has a 500$ full drop stitch 14 ft yak. It's awesome, called bonnlo.

    • @PaddleTV
      @PaddleTV  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You must be talking about a different kayak... this is the furthest thing from garbage, and it isn't a folding kayak.

  • @waywardpaddler
    @waywardpaddler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Neither.