Camille Paglia about Revenge of the Sith and why it's so good

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  • @Contrabass101
    @Contrabass101 6 ปีที่แล้ว +705

    It's over, Paglia has the high ground.

    • @DeviantDork
      @DeviantDork 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Except for the fact that the prequels, while visually stunning, are crap films.

    • @kvaldez46
      @kvaldez46 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You underestimate my power

    • @odiadordeisrael
      @odiadordeisrael 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@DeviantDork for you.

    • @Replica_Films2000
      @Replica_Films2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@DeviantDork Only in your mind my very very middle aged friend.

    • @MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive
      @MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Force is strong with this one.

  • @NeoSoldner
    @NeoSoldner 6 ปีที่แล้ว +565

    Camile talks about star wars like the most obsessive fan does. It's WONDERFUL!

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      But she's not a fan. Simply an objective art historian and critic. Ironically, it's the fans who have the least objectivity, because of all the expectations they bring with them.

    • @philippealain6172
      @philippealain6172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jedijones, no just a minority of too loudy (fake) fans.

    • @kokits
      @kokits ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im 5 years late to your comment..it still feels the same

  • @enriqueiglo2
    @enriqueiglo2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +634

    She's right. The Revenge of the Sith finale is amazing. Such an emotional impact, seeing all of it coming together, completing the circle, the music, the death of the democracy, literally and in a person of Padme. The finale alone is a masterpiece.

    • @zebbailey1727
      @zebbailey1727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree

    • @Ignasimp
      @Ignasimp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I remember when the film aired, people were saying this film wasn't good compared to the others, while I though I was one of the best. With time, people have realized it is a great film. Specially after the really mediocre films of this last thrilogy.

    • @davidanderson4748
      @davidanderson4748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Padme dying of a broken heart ... contradicting Leia’s memory of her mother ... Vader saying “Nooooo!” Yoda getting in one more line of expository dialog explaining something the audience doesn’t need to know or care about. Sorry I just don’t see it.

    • @iloveeveryone8611
      @iloveeveryone8611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@davidanderson4748 I get it. The writing can be strange, but it's been engrained in the nature of Lucas' Star Wars. The way they speak is almost archaic, but that's the purpose. They talk like they're from a medieval poem; it's corny but suitable to the style. It's supposed to be otherworldly and hyperbolic.

    • @onemoreminute0543
      @onemoreminute0543 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@davidanderson4748 Leia had impressions of her mother through the Force ('thoughts images feelings') and the way she describes her matches up with how Padme was last seen ('very beautiful but very sad ').
      Plus, baby Leias eyes are open while baby Luke's are not, which is why she remembers and he doesn't.
      Nothing wrong with some juicy recontextualization.
      And the 'nooo'? What did you think he was going to say in a space opera when he finds out his wife died?
      Edit: What expository dialogue from Yoda are you referring to?

  • @davidglover2498
    @davidglover2498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +468

    She'd be better at running Lucasfilm than Kathleen Kennedy

  • @ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked
    @ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked 6 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    I'm glad she acknowledges the music. Ep.3's score is the best out of the whole saga.

    • @tintomara6209
      @tintomara6209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah I always thought it had the feel of a mass or maybe something like St Matthew Passion by Bach

    • @thejfoshow1320
      @thejfoshow1320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Virgil, your game has pretty decent music too (-;

    • @e.martinez5999
      @e.martinez5999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Without a doubt. Williams got snubbed for the Oscar.

    • @highground673
      @highground673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I love Episode 3 more than Episode 5, but I think Empire has the best score out of the whole saga.

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The CD was badly arranged though. Simply rearranging the tracks in chronological order makes it sound a lot better. But I still think ESB, ANH and AOTC have better scores.

  • @aaronvaunts41
    @aaronvaunts41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    What's so horrifying to realise is that WE are responsible for how bad the Disney Star Wars trilogy is. We tore Lucas apart for his vision until he didn't have enough left in him to carry it to the finnish line :(

    • @stormbringer2840
      @stormbringer2840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I've been defending him for the last 10 years ..Im now utterly disgusted .

    • @LuchtLeiderNederland
      @LuchtLeiderNederland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Exactly. We as the Star Wars fandom dug our own grave.

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You're the child who killed his own father. You failed to heed the lesson of the films you supposedly loved.

    • @TheJeremyKentBGross
      @TheJeremyKentBGross 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Eh. The musical score is good. There is a lot visually that's impressive (but other parts look like a cheesey cartoon that breaks immersion).
      The overall background plot about the destruction of democracy would make Alex Jones proud. But there aren't really likeable characters in the prequels, and the dialog and pacing for a quite a lot of it is beyond awful.
      It definitely hosts the worst love story I've ever seen put to film.
      I think in many ways Lucas is/was a genius, but unfortunately he was surrounded by yes men on the prequels who didn't fill in the gaps where he lacks.
      On the original, nobody really believed in his vision and were surprised at it's success, but because of that they pushed back and made his life difficult in ways that bettered the film.
      The second film, arguably the best, was directed by somebody else, and some of the best lines were ad libs from the cast. (Most notably was Harris Ford with "I know" instead of a lame out of character sappy "I wuv u" from the script ...like the garbage lines/scenes in the prequels.)
      The third film (Return of the Jedi) was already going down hill a bit, most notably with the ewoks, but also the treatment of Boba Fett (already an iconic character at the time), as well as cheese details like the Light Saber functioning like a nerf bat on the sand cruiser.
      Yeah the Disney films were awful, and predictably so, but wasn't "the fans fault", nor were the failings of the prequels.
      The reality is that Lucas waited 20 years to do them, and by that time he was no longer the same daring and visionary young film maker surrounded by doubters and mentors to push and prod his work towards their best by the finish line, he was an old man who got fat and lazy but was idolized and surrounded by sycophants and yes men, while at the same time having so much money and a huge production company that he no longer needing to ask for financial reasons IF something really SHOULD be in the film, the answer to everything, even bad ideas that shouldn't have been was: the 3D animation guys can do it all in post.
      He sat behind a wall of monitors while actors on naught but green screens delivered terribly written lines with little to no direction, relying on his vast wealth and armies of animators to put whatever random things came into his out of touch brain on the screen, and it shows.
      Were there brilliant things in the prequels? Yes definitely. But they still aren't good films despite every frame being a masterwork painting and the music being arguably the best John Williams ever produced.
      Unlikable and boring characters, terrible dialog and pacing, and over exaggerated cartoon nonsense and silliness DON'T carry a spot on lesson about political corruption over the finish line to be great films.
      Let's not forget that the originals were also a classic path of the hero story, and the prequels were not. They should have drawn on standards from great tragedies, but I see no such efforts visible in the final product or though patterns of the production.
      The Star Wars franchise had it's time. Decades worth. They will turn out more crap as long as folks are willing pay, but the soul is long gone. Now it's just fast food like most everything else. RIP. But let us not pretend the fallen were saints beyond fault. It's disrespectful to the memory of the deceased as well as the plight of future artists to pretend it was otherwise.

    • @aaronvaunts41
      @aaronvaunts41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jedijones great analogy! Us fans are a version of luke skywaker that gave in to the dark side and killed vader in return of the jedi

  • @mlasko74
    @mlasko74 5 ปีที่แล้ว +609

    What Camille misses that makes Mustafar even more didactic and interesting is it is one of the Separatist foundry sites, where the raw materials for the Empires gears of war are made and originate. So the battle takes place in the very origin site of all the industrialization and hence, corruptability and madness/will to power. R.O.T.S was riddled with symbolism and ideological undertones. I'm just pissed that Lucas handed his legacy over to the Mouse.

    • @John-X
      @John-X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Jon Favreau and the true apprentice to Lucas himself: Dave Filoni, seem to be A New Hope. They're set to simply ignore Kennedy's "sequels" going forward.

    • @tebin112
      @tebin112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I am also pissed. But I mean we have to consider it in context. When the deal happened Disney and more importantly it's Marvel subsidiary was about to achieve the most ambitious and succesful Film Universe crossover in history of film. And there are interviews of Lucas stating that he created Star Wars because he wanted to make this modern mythology. From that point of view and at that time this was a good decision and many fans welcomed it. Nobody knew the disaster that's about to come, much like the Jedi in ROTS :D

    • @stormbringer2840
      @stormbringer2840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@tebin112
      You also have to take into account that the fandom bashed and harassed lucas and his actors for 15 YEARS ! Redlettermedia , chris stuck man , jeremy jahn , cosmonaut variety , honest trailer ...etc the media all shat on him for all this time , heck their are even movies and documentaries about that : the people vs george lucas , george lucas raped our childhood ...etc .
      Can you really blame him from wanting to dissociate himself from all of this ?

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@stormbringer2840 Too bad he didn't get to see Camille's speech before he sold.

    • @hahayou6405
      @hahayou6405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tebin112 you just waffled a load of nonsense lad.

  • @mrRambleGamble
    @mrRambleGamble 5 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    Damn. She's right. My brother and I always refer to the lava scene when Obiwan is angry/sad/disappointed and screams "You were supposed to bring balance to the force, not destroy it!"
    I can't think of another scene where someone expresses that basket of emotions. Obiwan is like a parent upset that his kid became a school shooter, and saddened that it might be from his own shortcomings in raising him. And Anakin is burning while screaming hatred while Obiwan tells him he loved him.
    Dawg, that's heavy.

  • @adamhedrick3230
    @adamhedrick3230 6 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    We'll watch your career with great interest

    • @Bmv20th
      @Bmv20th 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Adam Hedrick 😂😂🎅👌

  • @lucaskania739
    @lucaskania739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    She is absolutely right, and not only does ROTS have the best finale, but it has one of the best opening sequences put to film as well. Revenge of the Sith is truly George Lucas’ masterpiece.

  • @logicaldude3611
    @logicaldude3611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I was almost 20 when ROTS came out, so anyone my age or older already knew what was going to happen with Anakin's fall, getting burned, all that. But what the movie was somehow able to pull off was this overwhelming sense of sadness. You felt a burden of despair watching it all unfold, it was like a renaissance tragedy. The last hour or so of the movie you just wanted to jump in and change everything, it was extremely depressing but somehow wildly entertaining and artistic.

    • @avenged7peep958
      @avenged7peep958 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well lucas said the Star Wars is the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker

  • @bernlin2000
    @bernlin2000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    This woman is such a thrill to listen to. She's exactly the type of person that would be fun to simply sit on a porch with and talk about...whatever.

    • @gablo1089
      @gablo1089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And so on mkay

    • @TomorrowWeLive
      @TomorrowWeLive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gablo1089 kek

    • @mattjazzfan2288
      @mattjazzfan2288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To a point I think, she seems like the type of person who gets kind of annoying to listen to after a while.

    • @ambrosiaplatypus
      @ambrosiaplatypus ปีที่แล้ว

      She's a pedophile advocate bruh

  • @wolzly1
    @wolzly1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    What a happy coincidence that you should discover Camille Paglia accidentally. Well done internet.

  • @Redrosewitch
    @Redrosewitch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    I know that the Star Wars prequels have oodles of faults, but I actually like them. And I'm with Dr Paglia on this. The end of Revenge of the Sith is amazing. Opera really is a good way of describing it. Puccini or even Wagner's Ring.

    • @DerHammerSpricht
      @DerHammerSpricht 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I maintain to this day, a full-scale Broadway Musical Opera production of the Star Wars saga would 100% work and sell very well

    • @user-xx6vy9ri8p
      @user-xx6vy9ri8p 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      OT has multiple faults too.

    • @Black_pearl_adrift
      @Black_pearl_adrift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think you gotta just love it despite its faults. Some people can't see past the weird parts but I can't get over it. The prequels are some of my favorite movies of all time

    • @chrisd2051
      @chrisd2051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Honestly if you watch the prequels they tell a fantastic story

    • @SamvedIyer
      @SamvedIyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@movsestimiryan3854 The Lord of the Rings would have come close, had Peter Jackson also had the rights to the incredibly rich _The Silmarillion_ and tales set in the Second Age. But then, Star Wars is wholly borne out of Lucas; Peter Jackson had the benefit of source material. There is much to appreciate in George Lucas.

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    This might be one of my favorite talks of all time and as for her last point, she's right. The ending of Revenge of the Sith is the best since the ending of Return of the Jedi. I remember, I was literally there for both.

    • @neostrax3646
      @neostrax3646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also the novelisation for revenge of sith (Mathew Stover) adds even more to the film.

  • @zsedcftglkjh
    @zsedcftglkjh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Camilie Paglia is the key to all this. If we get Camile Paglia working...'cause she's a smarter character than we've ever had in the other speeches.

  • @aureliadiwu_cotofan
    @aureliadiwu_cotofan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I absolutely agree with her. I love the Revenge of Sith and after watched it the first time, for a very long time, I could not pull myself out from that tragic and epic ending of a hero falling to the darkness but hope borne out from the ashes. I think I have never seen such a romantic and sublime ending for a very long time. Given enough time perhaps two decades later, I think people will start to realize how great is that film.

  • @TheAndroidNextDoor
    @TheAndroidNextDoor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The thing with the prequels is that all their problems are surface level things. The underlying structure of them, the symbolism and the imagery, the subtleties of the editing, all of that stuff, was rock solid. Was Jar Jar a little cringe at times? Sure. Was the dialogue wooden? Sure. But the moments where there was no dialogue, where the only thing Lucas could do was show rather than tell, the prequels absolutely hit it out of the park.

    • @ObeseChess
      @ObeseChess 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, imo RotS has both the best and the worst dialogue and acting in the whole original six, sometimes within a few minutes of each other. The presentation is often jarring as a result but Paglia is not wrong here (and neither are you!)

  • @jameskane8428
    @jameskane8428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I hope Jake Lloyd's doing ok wherever he is ❤

    • @k-dinho9247
      @k-dinho9247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah the poor fella got so much unnecessary hate over the years, he tried his absolute heart out but got blamed for the disappointment of some SW fans because his character was too young & annoying, and too competent for his age.
      I, however, think he did a great job & deserves respect

  • @tontsar91
    @tontsar91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I just love how passionately she describes it.

  • @andrewbetancourtofficial
    @andrewbetancourtofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Finally.. I’ve felt so isolated. I was like why am I the only one that cries during the fight if good and evil. The integrity obiwan has to fight someone he practically raised. Not sure why people hated the prequels. I agree, so artistic.

  • @robertosheldon9061
    @robertosheldon9061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I never understood why apparently many ppl hated on Lucas' last 3 Star Wars movies. I thought they were good. Hayden Christensen was also mocked for his performance of Anakin which I also never really understood. Compare those three movies to the Star Wars we get today. You just wanne cry nowadays. Those movies were fantastic. They still absolutely felt like Star Wars.

  • @totallyanonymousbish9599
    @totallyanonymousbish9599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    She is so wise. These things could never be said about the sequels.

    • @thegoodreylo4749
      @thegoodreylo4749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No because they are different movies and The Last Jedi is the most thematically rich movie in the entire saga.

    • @totallyanonymousbish9599
      @totallyanonymousbish9599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thegoodreylo4749 enter TESB.

    • @thegoodreylo4749
      @thegoodreylo4749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@totallyanonymousbish9599 TESB is a fantastic film and should never be in the same sentence as ROTS.

    • @totallyanonymousbish9599
      @totallyanonymousbish9599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thegoodreylo4749 oh gurl shut up already will ya

    • @knuckles2494
      @knuckles2494 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@thegoodreylo4749 Revenge of The sith is better than Empire

  • @mac2312
    @mac2312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I saw ROS in theaters when I was 9 years old, at that age I was already a complete nerd. I had seen the original, loved the prequels, and the scene that always stuck with me to this day was the birth of Darth Vader side by side with the death of Padme. Masterful filmmaking, and she's right there will never be anything as epic as the finale ROS.

  • @noumenon3020
    @noumenon3020 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s a joy to watch such a respected figure in the arts celebrate one of my all time favorite films, flawed as it may be. It is utterly insane that this movie was made. To this day there has still been nothing like it - the ambition and scale is untouchable.
    Cameron continues to push the technical envelope but the inventiveness, imagination and complexity is owned by Lucas still.
    His Star Wars films are imperfect because there’s just nothing else like them, period. Perfection is developed over time, iteration and repetition - there’s no chance for it when something is so incredibly new and bold. Therefor such polish should not be expected or used as a lens of judgement against such a mind bogglingly intricate and novel tapestry.
    The opening scene of Revenge of the Sith alone is all the evidence needed, let alone the rest. The prequels can be really hokey at times, sure, but my god do they still stand alone as a testament to the vast reaches of the imagination, even from one person. Just incredibly inspiring.

  • @joaodecarvalho7012
    @joaodecarvalho7012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    People are unfair with this trilogy. There are many problems, but Lucas' imagination is magic.

  • @ButchersNailsEnjoyer
    @ButchersNailsEnjoyer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Walter White: “you’re goddamn right”

  • @mrlozano
    @mrlozano 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    What a beautiful mind she's got. If you haven't listened to her discussion with Jordan Peterson I highly recommend it! This woman can go on and on with great clarity. A consummate professor. Real pleasure to listen to.

  • @jamesbond1956
    @jamesbond1956 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    God I love revenge of the Sith

  • @TheLastPrime38
    @TheLastPrime38 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    ROTS is so amazing I'm glad that there's such a vocal love for it. I genuinely think it's an amazing film, I think it perfects the overly dramatic acting style that George was going for. It's got the least overly goofy stuff, the music is my favorite of the saga, and it's a film that gets better as I rewatch it.

  • @Antidoxy
    @Antidoxy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I absolutely agree. And she was only talking about the last scenes of the movie. There is so much to say about this wonderful piece of art!

  • @DylanSpringsteen44
    @DylanSpringsteen44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I love the prequels

  • @johnmars5282
    @johnmars5282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Prequel chads get in here.

  • @AndreNitroX
    @AndreNitroX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Make fun of the dialogue if you will but no one can change my mind about the gravitas of the story, visuals and music of the prequels. She perfectly explains why I consider these movies as good as the originals

  • @DrMX5
    @DrMX5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Such radiance in one individual !

  • @ElVitorolin
    @ElVitorolin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love this, Revenge of the Sith is truly a great piece of cinema, I do think it has its flaws in dialogue and maybe pacing but the emotion in that movie and the amount of tone and symbolism it has with its storytelling truly makes it one of the most beautiful and tragic pieces of cinema history

  • @hortanokilli7608
    @hortanokilli7608 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video is fantastic! The ending of Revenge of the Sith and the tragedy of the breaking down of Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan's relationship is one of the greatest tragedies in the history of cinema.

  • @fgdj2000
    @fgdj2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The entire movie is my personal favorite of the bunch and maybe even my favorite film of all time, but there are other candidates.
    It’s the centerpiece of the entire Skywalker Saga. The turning point. The Moment everything’s been building towards up until that point in the story and at the same time the enciting incident from which all other events in the story follow.

  • @8thMusketeer
    @8thMusketeer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've seen her before. She's talked with Jordan Peterson before. Seeing her geek out over Revenge of the Sith put a smile on my face

  • @Deathelement53
    @Deathelement53 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This aged so well

  • @pferreira1983
    @pferreira1983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wonder what she thought about the scenes of Anakin being manipulated by Palpatine and the events leading up to his attempted arrest? Terrific movie!

  • @christoffsimply3179
    @christoffsimply3179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The end of Empire Strikes back. The final 30 minutes of Revenge of the Sith. The end of the Mandalorian Season 2 that just happened. It is easy to just think of Star Wars as CGI product placement and spectacle but there is no other franchise that has put together the level of drama, emotions, visual wizardry, and top notch sound tracks that Star Wars has managed to do for decades. Camille Paglia is right, IMO.

  • @SpiritualFox
    @SpiritualFox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    It's okay to like the Phantom Menace.

    • @skyler114
      @skyler114 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Attack of the Clones though...

    • @populistreport4813
      @populistreport4813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I GOT THE ALT-RIGHT REFERENCE AND I CLAPPED

    • @celiumpictures
      @celiumpictures 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I like it a lot. Count me in the minority.

    • @GamesAndMoviesFan
      @GamesAndMoviesFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Liked attack of the clones more than Phantom Menace but obviously Revenge of the Sith is a masterpiece

    • @user-xx6vy9ri8p
      @user-xx6vy9ri8p 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because it's great.

  • @codinginflow
    @codinginflow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This could be the audiobook version of Revenge of the Sith

  • @wallyhackenslacker
    @wallyhackenslacker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When you hear someone asking a question about Star Wars in a humanities festival, of all things, the immediate picture that comes to mind is of snobby art critics thumbing their noses up and poohing in disgust at such low brow things, and then this happens. It's certainly not a thing I would have ever expected to see but it's very refreshing.

    • @TomorrowWeLive
      @TomorrowWeLive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      to be fair Paglia is very much an oustider within her 'world'. I doubt you would get this anywhere/from anyone else.

  • @xkurtz4662
    @xkurtz4662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    She reminds me of my step-mother. She clearly is not a star wars fan but is not only capable of appreciating the art and imagery of it; she'll fawn over it and call it a masterpiece. Which I agree with, it's just so funny to watch someone from outside the fanbase give such a glowing review of Lucas' work
    Granted, I don't think my step-mom appreciates star wars specifically. A better example is Black Panther. She doesn't like Marvel movies or superhero movies. But when Black Panther came out she raved about how it's such an important movie for Blacks and is a testament to how far we have come and that it was a tribute to black beauty and black empowerment, you get the idea.

    • @Replica_Films2000
      @Replica_Films2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your mom is an sjw

    • @xkurtz4662
      @xkurtz4662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Replica_Films2000 Step-mom. Don't elevate my relationship with that bitch

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Praising a movie for its afterschool special message is a lot different from praising it for its artistic inspiration.

    • @EresirThe1st
      @EresirThe1st 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Black Panther is a farce that shit all over African culture and history to appeal to delusional americans

  • @TomorrowWeLive
    @TomorrowWeLive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not a crossover I ever expected. Camille Paglia and Star Wars. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

  • @teshiku1249
    @teshiku1249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Revenge of the sith is such a beautifully made film

  • @ImTheReverse
    @ImTheReverse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “The ability to speak can sometimes make you extremely intelligent” - Kawaii Gone Gin

  • @donniedewitt9878
    @donniedewitt9878 6 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Camilla has great taste

  • @darkjediknight2923
    @darkjediknight2923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Revenge of the Sith is a masterpiece

  • @Stephen-wb3wf
    @Stephen-wb3wf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    ROTS has always been my top SW and I grew up on the orignals vhs.
    Camille along with Jordan P. are my top speakers to listen to.
    I'm in heaven.

  • @dashiellsisson9263
    @dashiellsisson9263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree, ROTS was the last Star Wars film...

  • @DarthVaderUnlimited
    @DarthVaderUnlimited 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    George Lucas was on another level, especially when I hear the interpretation of the marvelous Camille Paglia, who thinks on a completely different wavelength than I do; particularly the artistic aesthetic, the progression of the compassion of men towards children, etc. I don't think I've ever heard a Star Wars fan this passionate about these images, these themes and properties, and make it so convincing!!!

  • @51lodb
    @51lodb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! I love the way she describes this finale. Beautiful and accurate! George I hope you see this! I think she's gives you the respect you deserve!

  • @robgoren8628
    @robgoren8628 6 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Finally, someone speaking the truth about the prequels.
    Paglia and Susan Sarandon give me hope for women.

    • @Sizdothyx
      @Sizdothyx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "THIS IS PODRACING"
      "ARE YOU AN ANGEL"
      [conveniently forgetting that there was a Sith Lord in the government, as told by Dooku]
      "Vegeta, what the scouter say about his midichlorian level?!"
      [Obvious hindustani film ripoff in Naboo]
      Please, no. Don't gloss over that.

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Sizdothyx SAVE WHAT WE LOVE
      [a hour long cantina scene that does nothing in the end]
      [plotholes left open by the last jedi film]
      [the awkward and terrible throne room scene fight]
      force awakens is nothing more than a copy of a new hope
      Rian johnson insulting fans on twitter
      Please, no. Don't gloss over that

    • @mrniceguystylehigh
      @mrniceguystylehigh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Anakin is supposed to be innocent and earnest and a child. Innocent and earnest kids say corny shit all the time. It's actually perfect that a cornball grew up to be a jaded villain. Probably from people calling him a cornball. It was clear on tatooine Anakin was the butt of his fair share of jokes.

    • @promethea8916
      @promethea8916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What did Susan say about the prequels?

    • @Sizdothyx
      @Sizdothyx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lapplandkun9273 I'm sorry, but I didn't even mention the Disney-directed trilogy. Why the fuck does something bad in the present make something in the past suddenly good? Are you insane? Is this your dissertation for your Masters?

  • @SheepofChrist818
    @SheepofChrist818 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who’s here after seeing this on So Uncivilized

  • @EricGraham94
    @EricGraham94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I love Episode III Revenge of the Sith. It really is the best of the prequel trilogy - the one prequel that feels like a Star Wars movie. Anakin Skywalker’s tragic fall, the destruction of the Jedi, the rise of the Empire - just a compelling story. People can shit all over the prequels, but I will defend these films while acknowledging their flaws (though people tend to forget the original trilogy wasn’t perfect either)

    • @evanparrafx
      @evanparrafx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's almost blasphemy, but I'm becoming more inclined to say Revenge of the Sith is simply the best Star Wars movie. Period.

    • @chrisd2051
      @chrisd2051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The original trilogy is like the Iliad, the Oddessy and the Anead. Almost foundational myths to an entire culture. The prequels are like the Theogony, the story of the liberation of the gods and the Titanomachy. Episode 1 is like the Theogony because it tells about the beginnings, Episode 2 is the liberation because it has more of a focus on love like how the gods married and Episode 3 is the Titanomachy because it's the overthrow of the old order and a rise of the new

    • @knuckles2494
      @knuckles2494 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@evanparrafx i agree.

  • @hatemongeringverbalterrori7356
    @hatemongeringverbalterrori7356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She is the chosen one. She will bring balance.

  • @Jpaulished
    @Jpaulished ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was put so well

  • @sugarrayd2315
    @sugarrayd2315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My Dad took me and my brother to see episode three in theaters twice. I cried the first time and the second time I was filled with determination not to let evil win. And to watch for bad role models.

  • @DerHammerSpricht
    @DerHammerSpricht 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Camille Paglia is a Jedi. And I love that she dresses like a Ramone to give a lecture!

  • @guidosanchez5695
    @guidosanchez5695 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. I love Camille's enthusiasm. ROTS, despite its faults, is an amazing picture--my favorite of the Star Wars saga.

  • @TheHelghast1138
    @TheHelghast1138 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She is soooooo awesome!!!

  • @BreMue
    @BreMue 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh man i miss those Spike TV star wars reruns

  • @spikeep6141
    @spikeep6141 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s a Masterpiece.

  • @BenAri18
    @BenAri18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you are strong and wise Paglia and we are very proud of you

  • @wezzy9437
    @wezzy9437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She gets it!!!!

  • @Harriet-Jesamine
    @Harriet-Jesamine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazing woman, I have been banging on about this as an example of great art for ages!

  • @RichieCastellano
    @RichieCastellano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watch this about 5 times a year.

  • @charltonblake9967
    @charltonblake9967 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this lady

  • @hemmopaskiainen9899
    @hemmopaskiainen9899 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'll have what she's having

  • @MrJonathanSmith
    @MrJonathanSmith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The prequels are a masterpiece that, unfortunately, most are not intelligent enough to understand and the result is the stupidity that Disney has now put out with a Star Wars title.

  • @spikeep6141
    @spikeep6141 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I hadn’t even considered the De-Industrialisation angle....

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a new one.

  • @nobodysfool2232
    @nobodysfool2232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, I thought I liked that scene, but she really liked it

  • @DH-fu7bx
    @DH-fu7bx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is exactly what’s missing from the sequels, they’re weak stories and it would be best to just decanonise them

  • @darkjediknight2923
    @darkjediknight2923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So true. Why wasn't someone like Camille put in charge of directing George's sequel scripts? Oh what could have been

  • @CambriaCandiceMaria
    @CambriaCandiceMaria ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Strong father figures! Strong male figures! Yes!

  • @erosion271
    @erosion271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why do I want this woman directing a star wars movie. I know she's an academic but she just seems to get it.

  • @michaelpeck573
    @michaelpeck573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Nothing has been produced in the last 30 years as emotionally compelling as the finale of The Revenge of the Sith"
    I think she makes a strong argument, but I would counter with the finale of Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice. I'm sure Camille has never even heard of the game, but still. Love RotS though.

  • @terrywitzu3795
    @terrywitzu3795 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "American Graffiti" is the MOST influential movie of all time! Lucas would have raised film to a level we've never imagined if he didn't become so distracted by merchandising. Ces't La Vie.

    • @KateBond642
      @KateBond642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He was more distracted by producing, and running Lucasfilm, plus American Zoetrope with Coppola, and raising his kids. He just didn't want to direct any more films, which I agree is a shame. THX-1138 is amazing too.
      Edit for spelling, damn autocorrect

  • @superjumpbros64
    @superjumpbros64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is where the fun begins

  • @crystalquasar6841
    @crystalquasar6841 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Remarkable.

  • @Hakspheenom
    @Hakspheenom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Palpatine would have loved Camile. Her passion intensity alone is such, he have easily turned her to the dark side lol.
    On a serious note, great speech and rendition which alone now gets referenced and holds it's own spot.

  • @jedijones
    @jedijones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Find someone who looks at you the way Camille Paglia looks at Revenge of the Sith.

  • @BloggerMusicMan
    @BloggerMusicMan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Camille Paglia is a social critic and academic. She writes about the feminist movement, classicism and also art and art history. She's somewhat controversial but she also has a lot of admirers.

  • @junior4900
    @junior4900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She reminds me so much of Joseph Campbell

  • @Black_pearl_adrift
    @Black_pearl_adrift 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Splendid! Something I can wholeheartedly agree with her about. Excellent analysis

  • @kokosleon8172
    @kokosleon8172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a beautiful response

  • @pinchealberto
    @pinchealberto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg she almost got me at tears 😭

  • @misterbaghead
    @misterbaghead 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    lets get Jordan Peterson's take on it

    • @nothinglikeburntvag
      @nothinglikeburntvag 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Have you seen their discussion on Peterson's channel? It's goooood.

    • @Songriquole
      @Songriquole 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He'll just talk about archetypal stories and link it to Pinocchio

    • @haraldisdead
      @haraldisdead 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eww. Or not.
      "ITS ALL CHAOSSS!!!!! 😭😭😭"

    • @rockyseverino9230
      @rockyseverino9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he's briefly referenced star wars and harry potter and lord of the rings as modern myths that are popular because they got the underlying myths right
      he typically discusses much older stories, but he has specifically called out star wars as being good because it's "right" or "true". you know how he talks.
      he's never so far as i know done a deep dive on them, but I imagine he'd say luke skywalkers story was basically an abrahamic call to adventure, and anakin skywalker and obi wan kenobi were another retelling of the "hostile brothers" ala cain and abel etc.

  • @andycopeland7051
    @andycopeland7051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Also Revenge of the Sith was a great movie I dont care what you say about the prequels

  • @JXZX1
    @JXZX1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The virgin RedLetterMedia vs the chaddette Camilie Paglia.

  • @lililiil244
    @lililiil244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such a nice commentary.
    The final duels on Mustafar and Coruscant I believe are the best in the saga. The choreography is amazing in the duel between Anakin and ObiWan and it is so emotional, but I feel like people are often missing the point of the duel in the senate between Yoda and Darth Sidious. Yes, it is shorter, yes it is made mostly by CGI, but it is just as important and emotional, if not even more. They are fighting for the fate of the galaxy and I sincerely believe their duel's ending is even more important for the galaxy than the other. Why? Well, if Darth Sidious didn't rise to that unimaginable power, didn't single-handedly wipe out the Jedi order and didn't defeat Yoda in their battle, Darth Vader wouldn't have been saved and reconstructed. Yes, the empire wouldn't be as strong without Vader, but if Sidious wasn't victorious, Vader would not have survived.
    It also represents the demise of the jedi in Yoda's failiure to defeat now Emperor Sidious.
    He underestimated his enemy and thought his trust in the Dark side and Vader wasn't strong enough, but oh boy he didn't know what was coming..
    Best SW movie ever, and before some douchebag says I know nothing about SW, I completely exclude the Sequels and all the Disney shit and I place ESB at honourable second place.

  • @petercoderch589
    @petercoderch589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And Darth Sidious resquing Anakim is symbolic: if we are not angels to our most gifted youths and rescue them from their insecurities and emotional pain, then the Devil will and will convince them that there are no angels, only demons to be destroyed.

  • @YnotNomis
    @YnotNomis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    PERFECT! She Nailed it!

  • @KenNerdy.
    @KenNerdy. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    😭😭😭Such a beautiful thing to say

  • @gregthackray
    @gregthackray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    She even knows all the names of the planets! I only became aware of her through Nirvana and Kurt Cobain, but she's right. There's so much going on in that finale. She did well in describing it all. I like how they show the fall of the old ways and rise of the new Empire. Like ROTJ in reverse. (Yeah RJ, it's been shown before) It's like art, history, mythology and sci-fi all in one. Anakin's gift to give and save from TPM and his passion is what makes him fall and burn. It's a personal story set against a larger backdrop of ridiculous scope! And it's balanced by the tender men and women at the end. Unlike Disney who present the women as masculine and authoritative and all the men as either emasculated versions of themselves or toxic? Balance Disney. You can be a male with natural authority who also knows when to keep his pecker out of things. You find balance not by becoming the opposite sex but by enhancing both the Masculine & Feminine sides that everyone of us has. As talented as the new directors were, to think that they burnt George Lucas' story ideas in the Mustafar bin is incredible!

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's her connection to Nirvana?

    • @gregthackray
      @gregthackray 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jedijones There's quite a few links if you Google it. I think Kurt liked + read her books. Her name has come up a few times in Nirvana/Kurt Cobain biographies.

    • @punkbjork
      @punkbjork 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      kurt cobain would despise you

    • @gregthackray
      @gregthackray 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @punkbjork You're welcome to your opinion, but don't you think that it's a bit arrogant to speak for someone else?
      No reason given, but he would despise me. Gosh, that's so deep + not reactive at all!
      Perhaps learn to meditate + get some true awareness + a real connection to the other side. Then you can find out for sure before you 👉 an accusatory finger at someone else, while not Being able to notice the three pointing back at yourself, lol!

  • @dutchdaedalus
    @dutchdaedalus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Someone cross cut this with Mr Plinkett's snide comments about RotS finale please.

    • @yayayayayaya8140
      @yayayayayaya8140 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Plunkket sucks as a reviewer, overblows all slight negatives and due to the negativity of the character he portrays in doing it turns positives into negatives

    • @lloydbautista2055
      @lloydbautista2055 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I notice that when people watch his reviews, his opinions become their opinions and they tend to speak of them like they come up with them themselves.

    • @lenircotia
      @lenircotia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lloydbautista2055 Noway!! You just said what I was thinking!!! Thanks. I have a friend who sounds like the negative reviewers on youtube.

    • @jamesbrenton1870
      @jamesbrenton1870 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf is mr plinkett?

    • @odiadordeisrael
      @odiadordeisrael 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jamesbrenton1870 A character a fatass created.

  • @karamlevi
    @karamlevi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg! It’s even better thru this telling!