I agree. While I did enjoy the film adaptation for what it was (I really liked Hugo Weaving's portrayal of V. I thought he was the real high point of the film.) The actual comic/graphic novel is far superior on every level. The story is a rich tapestry that is carefully weaved and really plays out masterfully. I am re-reading it now after many years, and now that I am older, I have a much greater appreciation for it.
Excellent as usual gents. Pretty sure Moore (and Morrison) in later years have said that comics are powerful magickal tools and should be treated with respect - be careful when you create dystopias because they might become true...reading V in context of the UK in 2019 and its prescient in a lot of ways...
Ed pointing to the camera to tell the twitter people they they’re the heroes, villains, schmucks and Kirbys of their own stories is the content we came for.
There's no Moore-penned sequel or followup to V for Vendetta - like Marvelman, Warrior folded before the story was completed and got picked up by a US publisher, in this case DC. The last two chapters of Book 2 were written and drawn for Warrior, but the issues they were due to run in were never published, and they first appeared in issue 7 of the US V for Vendetta maxi-series. Issues 8-10 were wholly new material. That said, there are two interlude stories, printed in Warrior special issues that weren't included in the maxi-series but have been reprinted in various collections down through the years.
The comic was black and white in Warrior, the colour was added for the DC reprint. Just like Marvelmam, there was a long time between Moore starting this series and finishing it , that's why the tone and style switches so much from beginning to end. Thanks for this series guys you are both amazing.
V for Vendetta is a good book. It's slow, though, and if you aren't interested in this style you'll give up. The movie turned V into more of a superhero. It wasn't terrible but it wasn't the best representation of the comic.
I first read V For Vendetta in high school for my film class. We all had to read it before we watched the (lame) movie so we could see how it was adapted to screen. Great comic; and everyone in the class (some who'd never read a comic before) really enjoyed it. But onto the real story. We all read the book in class because most of us had to read it online with PDFs on the computers (I managed to run up to the library and snatch the only copy first because physical comics or nothing man). We got to the part with the big twist (you know the one, Eevie) and I watched as slowly but surely, every single student lost their friggin minds. People stopped and stared for minutes straight at that splash page. The teacher was laughing and had to go over to make sure they didn't spoil it for anyone else. Great memory.
It's so much better in black and white. I've read that Warrior was Dez Skinn's attempt to duplicate a lot of the Marvel UK strips he edited. David Lloyd had drawn the 30's pulp character Night Raven, written by Steve Parkhouse (with a number of text stories by Alan Moore himself.) Some of the early episodes are complete comics stories told in only three pages (!) Lloyd apparently was tired of doing all the period research, and Moore reasoned that since the appeal of pulp heroes (for him, anyway) was the exotic nature of a world a few decades in the past, he'd get the same effect by moving into the near future, and Lloyd could just design the world any way he wanted.
I think the term ‘bitter almonds’ refers to the taste of a certain ingested poison. Which one, I have no idea. Nor do I remember where I picked up the info, but it’s one of those things I’ve had bouncing around in my skull since I was a kid.
Not exactly what we're talking about here but ... some lines from the 5th of November poem: 'Guy Fawkes and his companions Did the scheme contrive To blow the King and Parliament All up alive.'
The Cyanide gas has been mentioned, but I think the link here is with the gas chambers of concentration camps used by the Fascists in the second World War. I really like V; it reveals a lot about how Moore developed his methods. This is pre-Swamp Thing after all. There's lots of problems with it, but the ambitious storytelling and the desire to dig into big, complex themes is here.
A few years back I read all of this but the last issue, revisiting this its pretty incredible how David Loyd drops out his contours, like Ed said the coloring is all over the place in ways that hurt the story but I'm finding his black placement really gratifying. Kind of reminds me of Steranko on Red Tide, though worth noting that I've never actually read that book.
Awesome video. 1+ for pointing out how weird the color is in these issues. I don't know if I missed you mentioning, but it was originally released in black and white. It would be rad if DC would re-release the original b&w.
I really like it when you use the drawing table for the background. It's more cartoonist than kayfabe. I remember reading V as a teenager and thinking it was a chore to get through. I'm not sure I would even want to go back to it now since it left such a poor memory.
Thank you guys for these, they made me starting creating again.
Another classic example of a comic being light years ahead of the film adaptation.
I agree. While I did enjoy the film adaptation for what it was (I really liked Hugo Weaving's portrayal of V. I thought he was the real high point of the film.) The actual comic/graphic novel is far superior on every level. The story is a rich tapestry that is carefully weaved and really plays out masterfully. I am re-reading it now after many years, and now that I am older, I have a much greater appreciation for it.
Tom referencing Fly on a Windshield by Genesis made my day.
Great talk indeed.
Excellent as usual gents. Pretty sure Moore (and Morrison) in later years have said that comics are powerful magickal tools and should be treated with respect - be careful when you create dystopias because they might become true...reading V in context of the UK in 2019 and its prescient in a lot of ways...
Ed pointing to the camera to tell the twitter people they they’re the heroes, villains, schmucks and Kirbys of their own stories is the content we came for.
Love the "Read Moore Comics" series. Bitter Almond is supposed to be what cyanide tastes like
bitter almonds contain higher trace amounts of cyanide than sweet almonds.
Bitter almonds are also used to make liqueurs. The most famous may be the traditional recipe for Italian amaretto.
There's no Moore-penned sequel or followup to V for Vendetta - like Marvelman, Warrior folded before the story was completed and got picked up by a US publisher, in this case DC. The last two chapters of Book 2 were written and drawn for Warrior, but the issues they were due to run in were never published, and they first appeared in issue 7 of the US V for Vendetta maxi-series. Issues 8-10 were wholly new material.
That said, there are two interlude stories, printed in Warrior special issues that weren't included in the maxi-series but have been reprinted in various collections down through the years.
The comic was black and white in Warrior, the colour was added for the DC reprint. Just like Marvelmam, there was a long time between Moore starting this series and finishing it , that's why the tone and style switches so much from beginning to end. Thanks for this series guys you are both amazing.
Cyanide gas smells like bitter almonds.
V for Vendetta is a good book. It's slow, though, and if you aren't interested in this style you'll give up.
The movie turned V into more of a superhero. It wasn't terrible but it wasn't the best representation of the comic.
Agreed. But Hugo Weaving's portrayal of V was probably the best part of the film. I thought he really nailed the performance.
I first read V For Vendetta in high school for my film class. We all had to read it before we watched the (lame) movie so we could see how it was adapted to screen. Great comic; and everyone in the class (some who'd never read a comic before) really enjoyed it.
But onto the real story. We all read the book in class because most of us had to read it online with PDFs on the computers (I managed to run up to the library and snatch the only copy first because physical comics or nothing man). We got to the part with the big twist (you know the one, Eevie) and I watched as slowly but surely, every single student lost their friggin minds. People stopped and stared for minutes straight at that splash page. The teacher was laughing and had to go over to make sure they didn't spoil it for anyone else. Great memory.
It's so much better in black and white. I've read that Warrior was Dez Skinn's attempt to duplicate a lot of the Marvel UK strips he edited. David Lloyd had drawn the 30's pulp character Night Raven, written by Steve Parkhouse (with a number of text stories by Alan Moore himself.) Some of the early episodes are complete comics stories told in only three pages (!) Lloyd apparently was tired of doing all the period research, and Moore reasoned that since the appeal of pulp heroes (for him, anyway) was the exotic nature of a world a few decades in the past, he'd get the same effect by moving into the near future, and Lloyd could just design the world any way he wanted.
I think the term ‘bitter almonds’ refers to the taste of a certain ingested poison. Which one, I have no idea. Nor do I remember where I picked up the info, but it’s one of those things I’ve had bouncing around in my skull since I was a kid.
Bitter Almond is what cyanide smells like.
Not exactly what we're talking about here but ... some lines from the 5th of November poem:
'Guy Fawkes and his companions
Did the scheme contrive
To blow the King and Parliament
All up alive.'
The Cyanide gas has been mentioned, but I think the link here is with the gas chambers of concentration camps used by the Fascists in the second World War.
I really like V; it reveals a lot about how Moore developed his methods. This is pre-Swamp Thing after all. There's lots of problems with it, but the ambitious storytelling and the desire to dig into big, complex themes is here.
I bloody lover warrior!
A few years back I read all of this but the last issue, revisiting this its pretty incredible how David Loyd drops out his contours, like Ed said the coloring is all over the place in ways that hurt the story but I'm finding his black placement really gratifying. Kind of reminds me of Steranko on Red Tide, though worth noting that I've never actually read that book.
Awesome video. 1+ for pointing out how weird the color is in these issues. I don't know if I missed you mentioning, but it was originally released in black and white. It would be rad if DC would re-release the original b&w.
Great stuff guys!
Sick!!
Just a note it's called bonfire night where I live not guy fawkes day.
I like the work area setup
Moore's "V" is "The Devil"
He even quotes Sympathy for the Devil at one point in the graphic novel-“Please allow to me to introduce myself. I am a man of wealth and taste.”
Ooo baby
I really like it when you use the drawing table for the background. It's more cartoonist than kayfabe.
I remember reading V as a teenager and thinking it was a chore to get through. I'm not sure I would even want to go back to it now since it left such a poor memory.
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