Dear Sorin, People are mainly new to electronics. As a veteran electronic engineer i understand you very well. On all the years the experience i have, i can say there is no dodgy repair or solution. Electronics doesn't allow dodgy repairs. A circuit can ONLY work if you supply what it requires otherwise either it will not work, it can defect the other parts and/or the product will be unstable. So i am watching almost every repair you make and i cant say i havent seen a dodgy repair at all. You supply the reuirements from other locations and the design of the notebooks have also redundant location for supplying some voltage or current from other locations. On the manufacturers side they will change the desing on the fly if they dont find certain parts in bulk. This is why you can see variations of the same board on different production batches. So dont even think that you do dodgy. There is NO dodgy solutions there is ONLY solutions. Apart from that all watchers should understand and appreciate that you share the real electronic tricks that can be used. Kindest Regards
I agree with what you said, not all the people can find the right components to fix their costumer's devices, so yeah, we appreciate all the hard work of Sorin
Hi sorin, i think you can call someone dodgy if the guy try to repair and do not repair or do more damage.. then calls it a "no fix" . On the other hand , if you do the repair by using anything possible to make it work and if it's working without making the device less reliable. Then it's not dodgy Keep on repairing the way you do !
Thanks for the nice video Sorin. I was born and grew up in the GDR. We didn't have much back then and things that were broken were repaired. Unfortunately, the mentality of a throwaway society has developed in recent decades. But I also stay true to my old values and try, wherever possible, to repair things first and then continue to use them instead of throwing everything away and wasting resources. Greetings from Erfurt in Thuringia.
Sorin, I think you are on the right track here. We have a saying here in the USA that I think applies in the case of dodgy repairs. "Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good."
No matter what I'll fix it EXACTLY your way Mr. SORIN, and I DON'T CARE if the Laptop is mine or for a costumer. Your ways are always better than the manufacturer (that's how i see it, because the manufacturer design failed but yours always works) THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING SIR
No matter how many times you say it. " ill replace it on another video " it makes me laugh out loud. Thank you for your great videos and funny sence of humour.
Of course we appreciate your time to show us 2 ways, we know your time is valuable and you are using it to teach us and comforting us. i send you a big hug.
Hi Sorin. I think, we need to evaluate the quality of the device in question. If it is a top shelf laptop (or whatever other device) and it is worthwhile to make it as good as new (and charge accordingly), then yes, replace everything with brand new components, so at the end it is brand NEW. On the other hand, if the device is cheap, old and really not worth big repair, than bringing it back to life the simplest (and cheapest) possible way is absolutely warranted. I always admire your ability to make do with whatever you have at hand. Keep up the good work and your very informative videos. Jerry from Australia.
I aapreciate you taking a load of time on this one trying to fix it back to original. I'm actually with you though, just solder the wire! The customer doesn't care how - he just wants it working again.
I appreciate you putting things back the way the manufacturer intended even if it means you have to use more time to do so! lol you are an amazing teacher! Thank you for your time and effort spreading knowledge sir!
Sorin I always appreciate you showing us different ways to fix things. Whether it's the pro way, or the way that requires being more flexible about things.
Thanks to your so called "dodgy" repairs, me with my limited skills managed to fix some simple faults. Funny that whenever you say dodgy I remember that in apollo 13 they had to improvise carbon dioxide filtering with different parts to save the crew. By all means you could call this dodgy but did it work? Hell yeah. All the best Sorin!
Guru Ji… you don’t bothers about “ Dodgy repair” only Legends can find and fix it the fault at anyway and shortest way. Your are Legend. ( leaners and small people will replace the board instated of finding the fault. Thank you so much for your videos . all are very helpful.
I have learned so much from your channel Sorin and I must thank you for that. The front row seat you provide us all while you work is very educational and also entertaining. Yes, you could take the easy/dodgy route, but you always take the time to show and explain the logic behind the different repairs possible. I did something dodgy years ago when I worked in a repair department on the tough book laptops, it had no power but and no voltage on pin 13 of the EC which was the power on signal. I found a 3.3v source and jumped that from the other side of the board, jumper wire was so long it looked awful. But it worked and never came back into the repair area, and I never told anyone up until now lol. It was US military PC used in a Jeep. I should have traced the fault and fixed it properly but was pressed for time and lots of others to get through. Love you channel Sorin and it's the best of its type hands down. Thank you 😁
Yeah am one of those But I wanna thank you For the great lessons. and you tought me from scratch now i am the 3rd person in my town, people can trust with their aptops and am doing well everyday got a year now since i started doing repairs in my own shop. You're a great teacher ever Sir Sorin I salute You
As a customer, I would be happy to have my old faithful laptop back and working. Sometimes you know it is time to look into a replacement and this would give me time to use it and look for a new one. Also, you get a little bit of extra life from it too & it is repaired from a budget I can afford now. I have time to transfer my pics, videos and files as well. And if you keep it going until it dies, that's okay too. It's all win win in the end. Great work young man.
Oh, and totally wanted to mention I appreciate you actually showing potential alternative ways to repair things, even if they're not 100% conformant to specs. Certainly stuff you don't get taught in school or your average apprenticeship. And overall, I think one shouldn't forget stuff like this can often decide whether some device can be continued to be used or would be ready to be scrapped. As long as the customer knows what they'll be getting (like here, better don't try to charge anything else with that port), I think it's totally fine, especially if otherwise they might face costs similar to just getting a new device.
Dear Sorin, words can’t describe how much I appreciate all your videos and lessons. Keep up the great work the way you believe is best - that’s what experience is for and thanks for sharing your decades of experience with all of us. Best regards from Kyiv, Ukraine 🇺🇦
I appreciate you showing us the long way, simply because I'm curious about what it was in the original design that failed. You know, educational purposes.
Excellent fix.👍❣ The TPS controller is designed for failure .. overheating .. even if there is a new controller you need to program ... and it is not certain that it will last and burn again. An excellent workaround for a difficult problem
Hi Sorin, thank you very much to teach US the way to repair the laptop, no matter if dodgy or your way as u said everyone must find his way and adapt to his contest, country, possibility to do a proper repair and his and customer need... thank for sharing you experience with US with passione, bye Francesco Timpano from Florence Italy
dont worry about what people say. learning different tricks or the best way are both fine. some people will never be happy no matter what you do. just be yourself and enjoy doing what you do. many of us learn from you.
Sorin, thank you for your heart felt thoughts. What we learn from you is amazing, and you are correct people, in general, want things done one the cheap. Great video, Paul, USA
I think it takes more skills and knowledge to find an alternative solution like you did than just replacing parts. So I appriciate that. Still, I'm wondering if shorting the two mosfets now makes the 19 volts also present on the second USB-port, which would be very bad for any peripheral plugged in there.
Grazie per l'aiuto che dai a tutti noi. Ti mando i saluti dall'Italia e inoltro i saluti a tutti i colleghi che ti seguono. Grazie ci sono tanti ragazzi come me che vogliono imparare e oltre al mio collega che mi sta seguendo tu stai dando una grande mano. Prima ti seguivo e non capivo niente ora capisco tante cose. Non si molla. Grazie ancora ❤ saluti dalla Calabria
Only now those two usb ports are probably shorted to eachother. Those were probably some sort of diodes allowing the usb ports to send current without flooding eachother. It will work as long as you don't plug devices into BOTH ports.
Or maybe I'm talking nonsense. That's only the supply track for the psu that creates the main power rail. Is there any chance that we can have any voltages from the laptop directly on the type c connector without those mosfets disconnecting them?
@@deleanuandrei9612 this must be tested to know for sure... what if you connect both a charger to one port and a usb-stick or a phone to the second usb port?!!
Sorin your solution's is engineering that all brother
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I'm electrician.. Totally understand you. Sometimes when I say how I have to fix the problems... Customers answers usually... So expensive.. Too much work.. And that's the point when I say.. Ok I don't do it... But a laptop totally different than a house.. I make same thing sometimes when I work on a board.. And sometimes this is the best lessons
Maybe some diodes would be a better solution ... if something is connected to the on usb-c and you attach the charger on the other one, you risk 19v go straight to whatever is connected to the first port. I mean, something like you have with battery / charger connected to the power rail through a dual diode. In case, schottky diode is probably required, since a lot of current go throughout them .... the less the voltage drop, the better, also for thermal requirements.
Great job. What about voltage on both usb-c ports. They will be always at battery/power supply voltage which means that anything connected to usb-c will have to much voltage.
Make sure you update bios. Theres a known problem that if you plug in two type c power connectors if will fry mobo.. most happen with docking port and usb c power c port plugged in..
As the world turns even more crazy.. please teach us the dodgy fixes.. we might not have the extra chips to replace in the future.. however. I do admirer your wish to do it right all the way back to factory specs..
I appreciate you trying to fix it the manufacturer way because it shows us more details how the circuit works. When you do it "Sorin's way" the less experienced os us like myself are anxious and uncanny because we don't know what it can cause in the long run. In this case when you investigated further it showed the fault to be those mosfets and from your videos I've learned that shorting those can cause the situation where someone plugged 19V to the first usb-c and some 5v device to the other usb-c, isn't it dangerous? Couldn't it burn this 5v device?
I would have tried to put a different footprint mosfet to see if the controller is working ok, then either put the weird original mosfet back (from donor or new) either leave the test mosfets there depending on how good they fit on those pads and traces
We apreciate everything and every word from your videos. Pro, dodgy or Sorin way doesn't matter, learning from u keeps us here
Dear Sorin,
People are mainly new to electronics. As a veteran electronic engineer i understand you very well. On all the years the experience i have, i can say there is no dodgy repair or solution. Electronics doesn't allow dodgy repairs. A circuit can ONLY work if you supply what it requires otherwise either it will not work, it can defect the other parts and/or the product will be unstable. So i am watching almost every repair you make and i cant say i havent seen a dodgy repair at all. You supply the reuirements from other locations and the design of the notebooks have also redundant location for supplying some voltage or current from other locations. On the manufacturers side they will change the desing on the fly if they dont find certain parts in bulk. This is why you can see variations of the same board on different production batches. So dont even think that you do dodgy. There is NO dodgy solutions there is ONLY solutions. Apart from that all watchers should understand and appreciate that you share the real electronic tricks that can be used.
Kindest Regards
I agree with what you said, not all the people can find the right components to fix their costumer's devices, so yeah, we appreciate all the hard work of Sorin
Dear @gurhanbayr5080, as an Obsolescence Program Manager I would say there is no dodgy business, only different ways of making money.
I cannot thank you enough for all what you have taught us. I have been following you since 3 years and you truly demystified PCBs for me. Thanks
On Sorin’s channel you not only learn about electronics but also that life is hard and full of compromises. Great video 👍
Hi from France, you're not dodgy because you know exactly what you are doing.
Hi sorin, i think you can call someone dodgy if the guy try to repair and do not repair or do more damage.. then calls it a "no fix" . On the other hand , if you do the repair by using anything possible to make it work and if it's working without making the device less reliable. Then it's not dodgy
Keep on repairing the way you do !
Thanks for the nice video Sorin. I was born and grew up in the GDR. We didn't have much back then and things that were broken were repaired. Unfortunately, the mentality of a throwaway society has developed in recent decades. But I also stay true to my old values and try, wherever possible, to repair things first and then continue to use them instead of throwing everything away and wasting resources. Greetings from Erfurt in Thuringia.
I like that mentality !
based mentality
Sorin, I appreciate you fixing it like the manufacturer intended the PCB to work like.
Lol, with his way of saying
Sorin, I think you are on the right track here. We have a saying here in the USA that I think applies in the case of dodgy repairs. "Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good."
And we do appreciate your teaching. Some of us can't repay you with anything other than a like. But we definitely do.
No matter what I'll fix it EXACTLY your way Mr. SORIN, and I DON'T CARE if the Laptop is mine or for a costumer. Your ways are always better than the manufacturer (that's how i see it, because the manufacturer design failed but yours always works)
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING SIR
No matter how many times you say it. " ill replace it on another video " it makes me laugh out loud. Thank you for your great videos and funny sence of humour.
Of course we appreciate your time to show us 2 ways, we know your time is valuable and you are using it to teach us and comforting us. i send you a big hug.
Proper calibrated bridge! :)
Hi Sorin. I think, we need to evaluate the quality of the device in question. If it is a top shelf laptop (or whatever other device) and it is worthwhile to make it as good as new (and charge accordingly), then yes, replace everything with brand new components, so at the end it is brand NEW. On the other hand, if the device is cheap, old and really not worth big repair, than bringing it back to life the simplest (and cheapest) possible way is absolutely warranted. I always admire your ability to make do with whatever you have at hand. Keep up the good work and your very informative videos. Jerry from Australia.
Man I just had the same fault and your video saved me hours of trying ... 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Thank you !!! 🙏🙏🙏
I aapreciate you taking a load of time on this one trying to fix it back to original. I'm actually with you though, just solder the wire! The customer doesn't care how - he just wants it working again.
You are not a Random guy Sorin. You are the Big Boss here 😊
I appreciate you putting things back the way the manufacturer intended even if it means you have to use more time to do so! lol you are an amazing teacher! Thank you for your time and effort spreading knowledge sir!
Sorin I always appreciate you showing us different ways to fix things.
Whether it's the pro way, or the way that requires being more flexible about things.
You are a magician my friend I’m doing this job for years and I learning every day something new from you thanks sorin you are the best
Thanks to your so called "dodgy" repairs, me with my limited skills managed to fix some simple faults. Funny that whenever you say dodgy I remember that in apollo 13 they had to improvise carbon dioxide filtering with different parts to save the crew. By all means you could call this dodgy but did it work? Hell yeah. All the best Sorin!
Guru Ji… you don’t bothers about “ Dodgy repair” only Legends can find and fix it the fault at anyway and shortest way. Your are Legend. ( leaners and small people will replace the board instated of finding the fault. Thank you so much for your videos . all are very helpful.
I have learned so much from your channel Sorin and I must thank you for that. The front row seat you provide us all while you work is very educational and also entertaining. Yes, you could take the easy/dodgy route, but you always take the time to show and explain the logic behind the different repairs possible. I did something dodgy years ago when I worked in a repair department on the tough book laptops, it had no power but and no voltage on pin 13 of the EC which was the power on signal. I found a 3.3v source and jumped that from the other side of the board, jumper wire was so long it looked awful. But it worked and never came back into the repair area, and I never told anyone up until now lol. It was US military PC used in a Jeep. I should have traced the fault and fixed it properly but was pressed for time and lots of others to get through. Love you channel Sorin and it's the best of its type hands down. Thank you 😁
You are not a Pro, your not dodgy.
But you are definitely a Master! 🥂
Dear Sorin! We apreciate everything what you do and say! Thank you for proffessionalism, i learned a lot from your videos!
Yeah am one of those But I wanna thank you For the great lessons. and you tought me from scratch now i am the 3rd person in my town, people can trust with their aptops and am doing well everyday got a year now since i started doing repairs in my own shop. You're a great teacher ever Sir Sorin I salute You
Your not Dodgy your a good computer fixer Sorin very good i apreciate you and teaching us
properly calibrated bridge and perfect repair. I agree with you my friend!
As a customer, I would be happy to have my old faithful laptop back and working. Sometimes you know it is time to look into a replacement and this would give me time to use it and look for a new one. Also, you get a little bit of extra life from it too & it is repaired from a budget I can afford now. I have time to transfer my pics, videos and files as well. And if you keep it going until it dies, that's okay too. It's all win win in the end. Great work young man.
There's no mistaking your a great person
I appreciate the time the manufacturer invested to make it proper dodgy.
always appreciate you showing us different ways to fix things.
Oh, and totally wanted to mention I appreciate you actually showing potential alternative ways to repair things, even if they're not 100% conformant to specs. Certainly stuff you don't get taught in school or your average apprenticeship. And overall, I think one shouldn't forget stuff like this can often decide whether some device can be continued to be used or would be ready to be scrapped. As long as the customer knows what they'll be getting (like here, better don't try to charge anything else with that port), I think it's totally fine, especially if otherwise they might face costs similar to just getting a new device.
Dear Sorin, words can’t describe how much I appreciate all your videos and lessons. Keep up the great work the way you believe is best - that’s what experience is for and thanks for sharing your decades of experience with all of us. Best regards from Kyiv, Ukraine 🇺🇦
Sorin, I watch every one of your videos, truly appreciate them, appreciate you, appreciate both the dodgy and the "proper" fixes.
Thanks a bunch!!!
No.. i learned all dodgy soldering here Sorin. Love it!
I appreciate you showing us the long way, simply because I'm curious about what it was in the original design that failed. You know, educational purposes.
Sorin keep doing it your way, that's why we are here. Thank you for providing us content and teaching us.
Excellent fix.👍❣ The TPS controller is designed for failure .. overheating .. even if there is a new controller you need to program ... and it is not certain that it will last and burn again. An excellent workaround for a difficult problem
Sorin just keep making these excellent repair videos. Appreciate all the effort you do in making these videos.
Sorin I like it when you do the dodgy way I learn alot and understand the concept better
Yes Sorin, we are learning as ever
We always appreciate for every single word on this channel ❤️ Thank you sir 🙏
thank you for the extra time Sorin!
Hi Sorin, thank you very much to teach US the way to repair the laptop, no matter if dodgy or your way as u said everyone must find his way and adapt to his contest, country, possibility to do a proper repair and his and customer need... thank for sharing you experience with US with passione, bye Francesco Timpano from Florence Italy
dont worry about what people say. learning different tricks or the best way are both fine. some people will never be happy no matter what you do. just be yourself and enjoy doing what you do. many of us learn from you.
Sorin your time is gift for us.
I'd say that was an impressive work around and that you were able to find the fault. I think as long as you're honest with the customer, all good.
Sorin, thank you for your heart felt thoughts. What we learn from you is amazing, and you are correct people, in general, want things done one the cheap.
Great video, Paul, USA
your Dodgy, Funny, Sorin ways is the reason i am here, i love you man, keep up the good Work/Videos
Yes we appreciate you act professionally 😂 we appreciate you sharing your view and occasionally make us all smile. Keep on the good dodgy work 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The only reason we all here is because it's sorin way that we can learn so much.
Thanks amuch sorin your efforts has really been of immense help to me
I think it takes more skills and knowledge to find an alternative solution like you did than just replacing parts. So I appriciate that. Still, I'm wondering if shorting the two mosfets now makes the 19 volts also present on the second USB-port, which would be very bad for any peripheral plugged in there.
Sorin, you do dodgy well. And I say that with the utmost respect. Keep the video’s coming. They’re the best!
Grazie per l'aiuto che dai a tutti noi. Ti mando i saluti dall'Italia e inoltro i saluti a tutti i colleghi che ti seguono. Grazie ci sono tanti ragazzi come me che vogliono imparare e oltre al mio collega che mi sta seguendo tu stai dando una grande mano. Prima ti seguivo e non capivo niente ora capisco tante cose. Non si molla. Grazie ancora ❤ saluti dalla Calabria
I didnt wait that jumping to work. I am amazed.
I'm really enjoying watching your very useful ways of repairing laptops, thank you sorin 🙏
Hello Sorin, as always excellent work, I never stop learning from you, your reasoning in breakdowns and the search for solutions. Thank you.
I appreciate what you do Sorin! Too bad I can't allocate more time to learn from you.
Hi Mr. Sorin and thank you for sharing these excellent fixing process. you are the best
Only now those two usb ports are probably shorted to eachother. Those were probably some sort of diodes allowing the usb ports to send current without flooding eachother. It will work as long as you don't plug devices into BOTH ports.
Thanks again Sorin
Hi sorin i think you do good work on that laptop dont spend all day fix that problem..your work is excellent ...
Hi Sorin I would like to tell you I appreciate every dodgy job you do professionally 👍💪😁
We like the way you do things sorin, you are a kind soul! keep up the good work!
edit: finished the video now, I must add, AMAZING!
And as always. I've learned something new. Thank you
On the next one like this. It would be nice to know if we have the main power rail on the type c ports without those mosfets.
Or maybe I'm talking nonsense. That's only the supply track for the psu that creates the main power rail. Is there any chance that we can have any voltages from the laptop directly on the type c connector without those mosfets disconnecting them?
@@deleanuandrei9612 this must be tested to know for sure...
what if you connect both a charger to one port and a usb-stick or a phone to the second usb port?!!
Sorin your solution's is engineering that all brother
I'm electrician.. Totally understand you. Sometimes when I say how I have to fix the problems... Customers answers usually... So expensive.. Too much work.. And that's the point when I say.. Ok I don't do it... But a laptop totally different than a house.. I make same thing sometimes when I work on a board.. And sometimes this is the best lessons
Best Video Ever Seen From You !!!
I love your dodgy repairs 🌷
Thanks for sharing "dodgy" and pro way, i learn a lot.
Maybe some diodes would be a better solution ... if something is connected to the on usb-c and you attach the charger on the other one, you risk 19v go straight to whatever is connected to the first port. I mean, something like you have with battery / charger connected to the power rail through a dual diode. In case, schottky diode is probably required, since a lot of current go throughout them .... the less the voltage drop, the better, also for thermal requirements.
i dont think this makes parallel the ports, it is not the mosfet that generates the lower 5 volts
@@profaneus27:00 look where traces go. One to vcc of one type-c other to vcc of other type-c . And they are in paralel going to shunt now.
@@yellouu_theree i mean there has to be a buck corverter at the usb port, or how it can deliver 5 volts anyway
@@yellouu_theree those mosfets are only for short circuit protection, i think..
Excellent video! Thank you
We do appreciate your work dodgy or not I hope someday I can fix things like you
❤
Great job. What about voltage on both usb-c ports. They will be always at battery/power supply voltage which means that anything connected to usb-c will have to much voltage.
Love those Calibrated Bridges Sorin!
@@horaceinfiji properly calibrated bridge 😂
Hey,
Actually I like the way you approach the faults
Make sure you update bios. Theres a known problem that if you plug in two type c power connectors if will fry mobo.. most happen with docking port and usb c power c port plugged in..
Peculiar bug
i love the "fix" part, replace part anyone can do.
Even more i LOVE how to think, find and solve the problem.
I have the same problem in work, managers calling me dodgy fixing things not as the manufacturer has it. 😂
Don’t mind them 😅
Umhh.. if owner connect an external disk drive to the secindary usb c ... the drive burns because the 19v come out from the 5v pin... or not?
Unlikely but possible
Dovrebbe essere possibile misurarlo con l'usb meter sulla seconda porta mentre è collegata l'alimentazione sulla prima, giusto?
@@alessandrovirdis520 gia'... sarebbe bello verificare...
Я искал этот комментарий! На флешку через юсб пойдет 19 вольт… нужно убрать одну перемычку! На всякий случай
@@аватар-д2т two "proper calibrated" schottky diodes should do a better job.
Great Sorin.fixing laptops with Dolgy way is I call it a pro. you r pro.
I understand your point Sorin.
A proper professional repair makes me soooooo happy !
Missed the hot glue.... 😁
Good job mate 👏
Thanks for teaching us
you are one of a kind my friend
This sarcasm. lol. Love it! Made my day. Thanks Mr Sorin, what a sense of humour.
proper calibrated bridge :)) Dear Sorin thak you so much..
Thanks for the explanation about both ways great job I am happy to watch your Channel I got a lot from your channel thanks keep going 🎉
As the world turns even more crazy.. please teach us the dodgy fixes.. we might not have the extra chips to replace in the future.. however. I do admirer your wish to do it right all the way back to factory specs..
thank you Sorin you are the best 🙂
Sorin, great contribution to the profession. But what about Pizza?
Don’t worry. We all appreciate
I appreciate you trying to fix it the manufacturer way because it shows us more details how the circuit works. When you do it "Sorin's way" the less experienced os us like myself are anxious and uncanny because we don't know what it can cause in the long run. In this case when you investigated further it showed the fault to be those mosfets and from your videos I've learned that shorting those can cause the situation where someone plugged 19V to the first usb-c and some 5v device to the other usb-c, isn't it dangerous? Couldn't it burn this 5v device?
Nice work.
I would have tried to put a different footprint mosfet to see if the controller is working ok, then either put the weird original mosfet back (from donor or new) either leave the test mosfets there depending on how good they fit on those pads and traces