The Final - Kite Boat Atlantic Crossing

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ธ.ค. 2021
  • Successful solo Atlantic crossing from Lisbon to
    Martinique with a kite boat.
    The 38-year-old Portuguese Francisco Lufinha has made it. Just in time
    for Christmas, the adventurer reached the Caribbean island of
    Martinique with his small boat pulled by kites after a total of 25 days at
    sea. More on dreamsports.tv
    #FranciscoLufinha #KiteBoat #Atlanticcrossing

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  • @bobgaysummerland
    @bobgaysummerland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I’m a singlehanded sailor. No way would I attempt the kite boat. It would be like juggling pissed off cats. I bow to the master. Great job!!!

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In principle, kite flying can be (and has been) automated. In practice, it may yet not be stable enough for long term use.

    • @blueishxx
      @blueishxx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol truly amazing definitely a young man's game

    • @TheStuartstardust
      @TheStuartstardust ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@LoanwordEggcorn ..but it always needs some wind, don't know if it's a problem in the big ocean..🧐🤓🤔
      But nice with automatic while cruising 😎

    • @JustInvertedFpv
      @JustInvertedFpv ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheStuartstardust Any kind of sailing needs some wind. I sailed around the world when I was younger. When the wind dies you either just drift slowly until the wind picks up again or you run the motor if you have one. Most often though you just wait for the wind to pick up again as you'll have a limited amount of fuel to burn even if you have a motor. We mostly ran the engine just to charge our batteries and run the refrigerator/freezer. We only used the engine to move if we really had to.

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JustInvertedFpv Intersting point of a kite is that it has access to potentially a lot more wind, particularly higher up. And as we know wind tends to be stronger higher, too.
      These days most cruisers have a lot of solar panels to power electrical house loads.

  • @inmyopinion6836
    @inmyopinion6836 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Automated kite sailing for commercial shipping is the field to launch this amazing asset to the general sailing community. God speed to kite-sailing it is my love! ! !

  • @laprepper
    @laprepper ปีที่แล้ว +45

    That auto kite control is amazing!

    • @Nobody-cw4wm
      @Nobody-cw4wm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      …agreed! Lotta high tech stuff in there eh.

  • @briancunningham2250
    @briancunningham2250 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A brilliant achievement which deserved much more recognition than it got. Belated congratulations!👏

  • @kailaniandi
    @kailaniandi ปีที่แล้ว +14

    About twenty years ago I thought about doing something very similar. I told quite a few people and they thought I was crazy lol. No there are several different types of kite boat. Looking forward to seeing how these evolve in the future

  • @pooboi8600
    @pooboi8600 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    How is this not more popular. This is like the new sailing

    • @SVPearler
      @SVPearler ปีที่แล้ว +3

      $$$$$$ and complicated.

    • @cpobyrne1
      @cpobyrne1 ปีที่แล้ว

      with a foiling boat he'd be across in a couple of days!!

    • @neilbroome4941
      @neilbroome4941 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Kites on a boat do not allow you to sail towards the wind, this makes them of limited use unless you are on a trade wind route going one way.

    • @FullCircleTravis
      @FullCircleTravis ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@Neil Broome
      You can sail into the wind with a kite. Not as efficiently.

    • @neilbroome4941
      @neilbroome4941 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FullCircleTravis there is always one isn't there. The original comment was that the person did not know why kites weren't used more on sailing boats. I think I made my point.

  • @sharpsticksnz4112
    @sharpsticksnz4112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I can't believe I'm the first to comment. This guy is a legend! Well done my friend I hope the future is bright for you and the world catches up with how amazing this is. Way to make your own luck Francisco!

  • @StrawberryGarcia
    @StrawberryGarcia ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Boy that control system doesn’t look complicated at all

  • @wailinburnin
    @wailinburnin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sailors talking, one says “You think sailing across the sea is scary, you should try it in a power boat” [meaning mast and sails are reliable, fixable, and uncomplicated, engines have so many things that can go wrong]. A truly brave and/or naïve soul sets out across the ocean in a kite boat like this one, bravo to you, I would think a slightly heavier boat with a mast, a bit slower of course, but kite rigged might be really fun to live on, be like, “great to be here” not, “get in, get in, get in”). I like challenges and racing to see how fast you can do it, but the next step is choosing the most noninvasive cruising experience. A kite and an electric auxiliary could be cool.

  • @carsonc1272
    @carsonc1272 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That hand pump water maker is pretty cool. It's probably too expensive, but wouldn't it be neat to include one with every life raft?

    • @dalesmth1
      @dalesmth1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I sold mine a couple years ago.
      It was military surplus, but it was serviced properly, and worked great.
      Wish I could remember the brand name, but they are fairly common.
      In good used condition, they sell for $200-350.

    • @carsonc1272
      @carsonc1272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dalesmth1 Well that's a very affordable piece of insurance then.

    • @joeldumas5861
      @joeldumas5861 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's the well known Survivor 35 by Katadyn. It had been around for decades. It might be around 2500 € brand new.

    • @rodparker6530
      @rodparker6530 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’m here for this comment. Nice. Have searched through the second hand ones. A cheap insurance yes but after the conversion rate and freight. I might have to try a different hobby

  • @c.l.3806
    @c.l.3806 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Kites are by far the best sails out there atm.
    You get sails in 100 meter height.
    And a little kite sail got more effective square meters to catch the wind than one might think.
    Cause it is able to move around.
    So more Wind Energy by area is harvested.
    You could even use a kite ship as an Electricity Generator. If you combine it with a water turbine.

    • @simiken1234
      @simiken1234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn't even have to be combined with a water turbine, it can be on land. Check out kitepower for example :)

    • @johnh539
      @johnh539 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually traditional yacht's have a sail not dissimilar to a kite called spinnaker sails, they are often diploid in races along with "goose winging" your other sails particularly when running with the wind.

  • @ASDRONEDOC
    @ASDRONEDOC ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was hard enough to do in a sailing yacht as part of a team. Kudos my brother!

  • @starofdavid9919
    @starofdavid9919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We have only scratched the surface regarding wind,wave and solar power. I see the future being bountiful and very environmentally friendly.

    • @fjb4932
      @fjb4932 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      starofdavid,
      I click only because the smartest man i've Ever met used that term, " we have only scratched the surface".
      There is immeasurably more we don't know, than do know. ☆

  • @tomhamilton7726
    @tomhamilton7726 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outstanding! Well done.

  • @chrisleggatt3240
    @chrisleggatt3240 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so cool, I learned to sail a kite before a boat, it must be a different world to sail like this

  • @cameddy4081
    @cameddy4081 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Outstanding!!!! Great adventure, amazing skills and courage - freakin brilliant stuff 🙏🙏🙏🌏

  • @123boat
    @123boat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic. Top man 👏👏👏👏

  • @CC-kt2hm
    @CC-kt2hm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dreamed about this so many years ago and it’s like seeing my dream come true

  • @vincentmolloy5660
    @vincentmolloy5660 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done mate. 👏

  • @himmeldrachen1
    @himmeldrachen1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Francisco great achievment. How long did it take? It would be a Portuguese to do this first!

  • @wingsurfcamp8240
    @wingsurfcamp8240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome!

  • @andrewkinsey8754
    @andrewkinsey8754 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well done, great achievement

  • @duelette
    @duelette ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job incredible achievement!

  • @diGritz1
    @diGritz1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Turtle be like, hey guy sweet kite. How about you hook me up with one.

  • @johnwallace5892
    @johnwallace5892 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing!!!

  • @csgarage3682
    @csgarage3682 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meus parabens pelo excelente video, desde o Brasil !

  • @davecole6795
    @davecole6795 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Be interesting if it could be made into a small portable deck mounted back up unit for conventional yachts, in case of demasting, just a small kite and control unit that you can pull out from storage and bolt on and plug in to limp you to the nearest port!

  • @KuschallRacing
    @KuschallRacing ปีที่แล้ว

    this needs biiiiig currage...........very impressive, pushing willpower to new levals, GREAT

  • @denislemelin7653
    @denislemelin7653 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like a pretty risky thing to do, so many things could go south really fast !
    Good luck !!!

  • @neilt.i.w737
    @neilt.i.w737 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW. Respect!

  • @jeffswope1511
    @jeffswope1511 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing well done

  • @fredtatch1572
    @fredtatch1572 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing! Did you have radar and autopilot for night? Glad you made a safe trip 🎉

  • @Carsten-Berlin-Wi
    @Carsten-Berlin-Wi ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow reallye innovative!

  • @ericd7975
    @ericd7975 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great effort

  • @loiklamb8067
    @loiklamb8067 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whaou
    La pêche le marin volant
    Bravo

  • @vinm300
    @vinm300 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing

  • @yanikivanov
    @yanikivanov ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude thats craziest idea crossing Atlantic with this...man you saved 1000 bucks on airplane ticket good job

  • @lockhughes
    @lockhughes ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wait'll somebuddy mentions hydrofoils to Francisco ... lift hulls above water and hull surface friction drag drops 800x% from water to air .. ;)

    • @florinadrian5174
      @florinadrian5174 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      An no more water in the battery compartment.

  • @caveman1334
    @caveman1334 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow!!!!!❤❤❤❤

  • @Kltpzyxm17
    @Kltpzyxm17 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:20 That's a juvenille Leatherback turtle. Rare.

  • @number1genoa
    @number1genoa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic ,somewhere, sometime they will fuse kites, foils and auto ride control to create a new kind of sailing cargo carrier😅😅

  • @KorayU.
    @KorayU. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Multihull tekneler için, tekneye kuvvet uyguladığı nokta itibariyle, multihull tekneler için yelkenden çok daha güvenli ve verimle görünüyor. 👌

  • @johnmacmillan627
    @johnmacmillan627 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Very impressive. Did you have to do much upwind sailing? What was your course? How long did your voyage take? Hats off to you!

  • @barryholiday8998
    @barryholiday8998 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool

  • @richardaragon1391
    @richardaragon1391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kevin Costner use this technique in waterworld

  • @Nobody-cw4wm
    @Nobody-cw4wm ปีที่แล้ว

    Sailing! Take it to the next level & strap a few big kites on a cruise ship…keeping it green!

  • @danielswords3969
    @danielswords3969 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly - how can this not be more popular. Why are kites not also used instead of a spinnaker on normal sail boats?

  • @ki7a5
    @ki7a5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top

  • @richardleetbluesharmonicac7192
    @richardleetbluesharmonicac7192 ปีที่แล้ว

    F’ ing cool !!!

  • @leobard7767
    @leobard7767 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Be nice to see some vetted polars on a kite setup like this in order to have actual facts to discuss. Anyone have a good source for them, they seem hard to find at this point?

  • @justdoingitjim7095
    @justdoingitjim7095 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about using the kinetic energy of the waves to create some kind of force to propel the boat?

  • @ciberbri59
    @ciberbri59 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    incrivel.

  • @kuhniberti
    @kuhniberti 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine Battle of Trafalgar with kite-driven ships of the line (pun intended).

  • @terrulian
    @terrulian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can the boat sail itself and adjust course and kites while unattended?

  • @chrisc9611
    @chrisc9611 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This seems to be far more efficient than sails, and it avoids the heeling over.

  • @sailservice24
    @sailservice24 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤👌👌👌

  • @glike2
    @glike2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This setup can go faster than wind DOWNWIND, in theory!

  • @JohnUsp
    @JohnUsp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They are trying to use this technique on big cargo ships.

  • @zeev
    @zeev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this is amazing. i was wondering why someone hadn't done this solo yet.
    a million sheep are rowing across the atlantic like transatlantic slaves, but no one kited across. it's the creative thoughtful and ambitious people that blaze the new path and the rest slowly that follow.
    that said, i'm still not convinced kiting for small boats will get popular until some sort of auto-sailer can be made reliably for kites. everything of the past 10 years says that autosailers do exist , yes, but they are very expensive , not reliable let alone standardizeable in the near future, and quite likely dangerous for small boats as opposed to larger ones. kites might simply be exposed to excessively high wind loads and wind variance at higher altitutde. the flips side of the attraction..... to want all that power.
    but can you handle it!?
    looks like francisco did. but he's not your average sailor....
    in my mind i was thinking perhaps the solution to automating kite sailing is a lighter than air bouyant kite ( patents exists) that also has powered small drone style propellers on it powered by cables running up the kite lines. the propellers simply ensure the kite is being pulled in the proper direction ( forget steering by line) ---and the bouyancy ensures the kite is always floating at a consistent point regardless of its prior operating position.
    it seems the continuous swooping of the kites is part of the dynamic instability which makes them able to sweep so much wind and get so much power, but also makes them prone to unstable control accidents. one way to remedy this is to make them slow and dumb by inflating them with a bouyant gas. but then that creates new problems.....eh.

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree. Every design has pros and cons, and better automation and more development are needed to make kite power more widespread.

    • @markusbroyles1884
      @markusbroyles1884 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Modern Kites are a miracle of precision crafting and computer design and lots of research trial and error. The sport of Kitesurfing has led us to these miracles of technology. YOU Zeev need to get a lesson flying kites with your local kitesurfer to understand the dynamic of the kites. You sound like me before I knew about it, very clever but not understanding certain things only lessons and familiarization with the equipment can give you ~

    • @joeldumas5861
      @joeldumas5861 ปีที่แล้ว

      In 1995 in Canarias, while we were preparing our family ketch for our Atlantic crossing, sailor Nicole Van De Kerchove (intentionally) demasted her JOD 24 and set her with kites (simply controlled by JOD's genoa winches).
      Beyond performance, Nicole's idea was to promote kites as emergency devices for (unintentionally) demasted yachts.
      I don't know if there has been other solo ocean passages powered by kites

  • @podocrypto6072
    @podocrypto6072 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cray cray....

  • @michaelbrownlee9497
    @michaelbrownlee9497 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we install that on a velomobile?

  • @dominictarrsailing
    @dominictarrsailing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm, it seems like his boat must go really fast, there is the bit where he lost the mid size sails and is having to make do with the 7m one and only(!) going 12 knots! but the total distance from lisbon to martinique is 3200 nm, which in 25 days is only a 128 mile average. That's only 5.34 knots average speed. Which is good, but a fast monohull could do that!
    I really want to watch a much longer video that showed all the trials and tribulations of this crossing. 3 minutes is just not enough to answer all my questions

  • @JamesCsezer
    @JamesCsezer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Challenging adventure, great job....I have a 34 foot trawler with fly. do you think we could handle Atlantic crossing with wing it... What would be the challenges

    • @will5989
      @will5989 ปีที่แล้ว

      How would you tack with a kite?

    • @joeldumas5861
      @joeldumas5861 ปีที่แล้ว

      If your trawler is high sea worthy, and since the Atlantic crossing in the trades is mainly downwind, you might consider the kites as a nice fuel saving system the days of plain downwind (or close to)
      Don't forget you have no fin keel, no daggerboard... so no upwind, not even beam reach.
      And of course have enough fuel, just in case...

  • @alaskawilliam1
    @alaskawilliam1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stack your sails if you want more power. Easy as RW (relative work)

  • @trisailor3318
    @trisailor3318 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How high (into the wind) can you go with a kite?

  • @Molb0rg
    @Molb0rg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is a full video on that?

  • @leschortos9196
    @leschortos9196 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can it tack against the wind

  • @s4n1c63
    @s4n1c63 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How often does the kite go down? Or does it?

  • @Pays2Win
    @Pays2Win 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never even heard of such a thing.

  • @sailinggaia3582
    @sailinggaia3582 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how much is an automatic kite system ?

  • @darrenadams13
    @darrenadams13 ปีที่แล้ว

    What brand name is that water maker ?

  • @ericcurry1119
    @ericcurry1119 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is water getting in?

  • @zerofox7347
    @zerofox7347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there no way of getting the kite flying on an auto pilot system?

    • @vanessabryan786
      @vanessabryan786 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but it takes a lot of calibration if you swap kites and increase line. Not impossible but probably easier run from a lap top and steered from a mono line with a controlled steering head.

  • @puggyk4220
    @puggyk4220 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No gas needed?

  • @GoPoundSalt
    @GoPoundSalt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Price of the system?
    1.000.000 $$$$

  • @unguidedone
    @unguidedone ปีที่แล้ว

    does anyone know what brand that water maker is?

    • @joeldumas5861
      @joeldumas5861 ปีที่แล้ว

      Survivor 35 by Katadyn

    • @unguidedone
      @unguidedone ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joeldumas5861 ty ty ill look into this

    • @unguidedone
      @unguidedone ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@joeldumas5861 wow its 2700 dollars

  • @E3ECO
    @E3ECO 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everything old is new again. I daresay Columbus would have a comment or two.

  • @antonafanasiev839
    @antonafanasiev839 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Привяжись к судну, а то докатаешься.

  • @carsonc1272
    @carsonc1272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't we ever see anyone stacking multiple kites on the same line? Of course I've opened myself up to all of the know it all's on TH-cam with this question. Please only answer if you really do know it all.

    • @dominictarrsailing
      @dominictarrsailing ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They used to do this back in the 19th century, for meterological observations, before they switched to using balloons. The best strength/weight ratio line they had was steel wire. They could fly kites up to 30,000 feet apparently! but they couldn't fly one kite up there on it's own, because the line would break under it's own weight. So, they'd put a train of kites up, the second one holding supporting the line for the first, the third supporting the line for the second etc... Now days we have much stronger materials such as UHMWPE, and people have successfully flown a single line kite that high!
      But you are probably thinking about having a line of traction kites so that you can reef the sail by landing some etc (somewhat like a cutter rig). That I don't know. Maybe just because it's more complicated and the need has not arisen because most people arn't crazy enough to kite across an ocean!

    • @carsonc1272
      @carsonc1272 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dominictarrsailing 30k feet is pretty impressive.

    • @dominictarrsailing
      @dominictarrsailing ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carsonc1272 forget this trade wind sailing, you could be sailing in the jet stream!

    • @carsonc1272
      @carsonc1272 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dominictarrsailing That's not real far off of my thinking actually. The idea I've had for over a decade consists of reducing a rig down to the absolute minimum. So there would be a foil in the water, a fairing for the rope until it comes out of the water, and a stack of hang gliders on the other end. The pilot would control the direction of foil travel from way up in the stack of hang gliders but the foil would regulate its own depth. Electricity to move the foil control surfaces would be from a small turbine. Electricity for the electronics in the hang gliders would be made from some solar panels. I think a person in this rig could beat the trans-atlantic crossing record by a factor of 2x.

    • @dominictarrsailing
      @dominictarrsailing ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carsonc1272 how do you figure 2x? hmm, current record is Banque Populaire V 3d15h25m45s, average speed 32.94 knots. to double that you'd need to go about 66 knots. That would mean going about the same speed as Vestas Sailrocket 2's record, the whole way across the Atlantic. I guess one advantage of being able to sail very very fast is it greatly reduces the uncertainty in choosing the weather window. You'd just need strong winds in the correct direction for 2 days. VS2's speed is limited because the downfoil starts to cavitate, so you really need a drastically different design to go faster than that. There are teams currently working on building on what VS2 achived, and hope to go 80 knots. They are still planning to have the pod containing the human(s) (lets call it the cockpit) skim on the surface, which isn't as cool as suspending it from the kite. That is fine for a drag race on a carefully chosen course with flat water and strong winds, but would probably be too bumpy in real ocean conditions! however what you are proposing is basically how VS2 works, but just get rid of all the fuselage boat crap that's gonna hit the waves and slow you down. So I think 2x is crazy, yet reasonable.

  • @voornaam3191
    @voornaam3191 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, is the pronounciation of the meter not standardized? You say meater, we say mater. Why is that? There is no meat in meter, there isn't.

  • @sammyhagger12
    @sammyhagger12 ปีที่แล้ว

    “There have been some problems with water” - not a good spot to make that observation…

  • @divemaster979
    @divemaster979 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not a kite board ....thats a tri hull

  • @guydelapetodiere
    @guydelapetodiere ปีที่แล้ว

    OK. So now go back with the same system and we'll talk back

  • @user-vy6di6hy6y
    @user-vy6di6hy6y 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    impractical as hell

  • @philipfreeman72
    @philipfreeman72 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not just put a helium balloon on the kite ? Anyhow for in trade wind sailing.

  • @keithoutdoors7337
    @keithoutdoors7337 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only good shot of the whole boat was covered by the next video thumbnail!!!😡😡😡 watched the whole video just to see it!!!

  • @jaywinters2483
    @jaywinters2483 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    music ruined it

  • @hswing11
    @hswing11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GET RID OF THAT SHITTY NOISE (MUSIC)

  • @Must_not_say_that
    @Must_not_say_that ปีที่แล้ว

    So why did he do this?
    Has he really nothing better to do?
    Very sad.

    • @cpobyrne1
      @cpobyrne1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah, like he'd be so much better off sitting on a couch watching YT videos😂

    • @Must_not_say_that
      @Must_not_say_that ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cpobyrne1 Are people not supposed to watch You Tube videos?
      Presumably you haven't?
      Who would have thought. Not you, obviously.

    • @skyak4493
      @skyak4493 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why did you comment? Nothing better to do? So sad!

    • @Must_not_say_that
      @Must_not_say_that ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skyak4493 Well it is wasted on you.
      Why did you comment?

  • @BillyG869
    @BillyG869 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s Blooper