Gol D Roger's Last Words to Shanks Broke Him | One Piece
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‘What stopped Shanks?’
He promised Buggy and Luffy he’d wait for them.
damn right
Great video joyboy, i think whatever rogers last words to to shanks was i believe it was too blunt and harsh as it reminds me of luffy being blunt to tama about ace's death but rogers words gave shanks a new mission in life which required him to make a detour to his dream of getting the one piece to be a gatekeeper for it as he had to wait for joyboy to take center stage first. I agree that shanks isnt evil but oda wants to keep us guessing if shanks is gonna try and steal the one piece from luffy at the last moment, oda is a master troll
It sounds perfect to me that shanks would have some pent up resentment about the fact he was not the one according to Roger. He was tasked with finding the true joy boy, and if you combine his duty with how much giving up on his dream of being joy boy mattered, then it only makes sense that he would also chase the one piece and fight luffy for it just to make sure that he is truly ready. Maybe Shanks will have a serious but ultimately friendly bout with luffy for the one piece where Shanks fulfils his mission that Roger assigned and also let go of his resentment because luffy will "do it all"
I imagine Roger leaning over into Shanks' ear and quietly whispering....."You're not that guy pal."
i can see a cool scene if shanks was hurt by it. when he eventually test luffy, he initially isnt impressed then gets pissed n be like ”shouldve been me” then fights luffy to kill… that would be cold 🥶
Joyboy just like sakazuki, could find one piece in a year If he was the main protagonist, Shanks would find it easily if he was main protagonist as well, right
no hes not
sakazuki stronger
@@hjlnbi oh, come on Shanks has more feats than sakazuki does shanks is stronger sakazuki is weaker end of story
@@hjlnbi Why were the Admirals afraid when Shanks appeared during Marineford then? If Sakazuki were stronger he could've one shot him right?
@@gerardocovarrubias3058 akainus feats better
@@phillemon7664 lmaaaaao because hes garling son sengoku said bacuse its you lmao akainu just ended wb fight
Bro goosebumps. Changed my thought about shanks
Ok, aint even watched yet but the IDEA JUST SEEMS 🔥😤
This is my crazy head canon but I always think one piece is joyboy and you can’t have it until he returns that’s why there is 20 year period that Roger said he came to early which means joyboy hasn’t arrived yet to laughtale
IF Shanks IS evil, I still don't think his crew is, leading me to believe Shanks would slaughter his amazingly weak crew since they have bounds with Luffy and would refuse any harm directed at him, that would include Usopp's dad, who could be the last one remaining and have a talk with Usopp or something but whether or not they end up talking, Usopp will want revenge, making the perfect oportunity for him to lead his people and unlock Conqueror's Haki and giving Luffy and Buggy the perfect set up for an alliance, since Shanks is trying to take Buggy's treasure and let's be real he also hates him and the fact Shanks switched sides would be a reason for Luffy to fight him, know that Mi-hawk could die fighting Shanks since he would be with Buggy and Zoro would attempt to fight Shanks to prove he's the better swordsman and beat the one who beat the best swordsman, while blackbeard fights Luffy because they also got beef because of Ace, and while Sanji would most definitively be protecting Vivi who by then will have joined the StrawHats because of her future importance and danger she will be in, for Zoro, the truth is that I feel like he would lose this fight, and I can see either Luffy taking on both BlackBeard and Shanks one at a time, Sanji leaving a helpless woman to help his "not a friend" and avenge his loss or Luffy taking on Shanks while Sanji takes Luffy's place Vs Blackbeard, I can see Luffy losing but then Zoro would finally reveal his devil-ish powers and beat the crap out of Shanks or just being Luffy's right hand in the fight, probably hitting the finishing blow, but more importantly, after this and a bit more, Buggy could be seen around the world as a guy who has Luffy under him which would make him Pirate King OR Luffy would after some lil stuff head to Laugh Tale and become the Pirate King, leading a fight along with his father and brother and everyone from the revolutionaries and Kid and Law on his alliance and some military forces from Vivi and Alabasta's allies, Imu being fought by the 3 rookies and the God's Knights being fought by important characters, Zoro fighting that guy with the Moon-Shaped Haircut and shades on and idk about the rest, because yes, the 3 rookies could be fighting Imu or it couls be Dragon or even the 4 gods, but I'm kinda done explaining my theories and noone will even read this that I wrote in my first attempt so don't judge if there are many things that I said that don't make sense 😂😅
You made me think of something with that shanks may have known that joyboy was going to be the one with the nika nika fruit... it is also been noted before that shanks been visiting islands meeting multiple children.. so what if he just went around with the nika fruit just in the open waiting on joyboy to eat it.. he may have been vigilant on people stealing it but was waiting on an innocent D by coincidence just eating it.. cause he also knows the fruit chooses the user.. 👀
Figa, from Latin ficus (“fig tree or fruit”) maybe shanks family history goes back all the way to the original Devil Fruits :)
What makes it too early for roger? Why would he say that they came too early? Too early for what? Is there like a door that only gets open at some specific date? Or is there something cooking that hasnt finished yet? Or or or
shanks already suprassed roger just by living at the same time as joy boy
Only the descendants of the Ancient Kingdom can be Joyboy. One piece since the beginning have been talking about inherited will, you don't inherit from anyone, nor anyone inherit from you, even the ones that are suppose to inherit from you, you negate it due to their behavior. You don't need a devil fruit to be Joyboy either.
I like your videos.
but this time I guess you missed a 'lil thing thing or two:
The Sea Kings around Fishmen Island told Rodger and Oden about the birth of the two Emperors in the near future. at that time Shanks was already born.
Or do you think that they haven't talked about Luffies birth but about the moment someones finally eats the Gomu Gomu no Mi / Hito Hito no Mi Model Nika?
I dont think Luffy was one of the sovereigns the sea kings were talking about, no. But it has very little to do with the video
Shanks became a yonko after losing his arm
Pirate King Buggy coming soon
There's a fundamental flaw in this theory that makes me disagree with it. or at least a portion of it. If roger is anything like luffy, he'd never say that shanks was not the one. At most, he'd say that the time to get the one piece would be when x thing happens, or in x years, but not that shanks is not the one, or cannot be the one.
on a side note, I don't believe that shanks met the gorosei. We have a similar panel of his face when he met whitebeard, and in the panel with the gorosei, the face was lacking any signs of his scars. Instead, I think its either a brother, twin, or cousin from the figarland family, maybe a god knight. It doesn't help that the gorosei said to the figure that they aren't supposed to be involved in politics. The yonko position is fundamentally a political one, so that makes little sense
I have one question it's unrelated to Shanks or this video,
So it's not explicitly said but implied that cannibalism can grant the victims's devil fruit powers to the eater. If it's true than what will happen to a sea king who eats a devil fruit user?
Shanks and kaido probably never clashed there lol. Just some beast pirates vs some Red hairs nothin more probably
I’m still stuck on the 2 poneglyphs that were in alabasta, zoro found one in a pit with chopper while they’re were lost in the desert. not even sure if it cannon but it was said there is only 1 poneglyph on alabasta and we see it at the end of the arc... RIGHT??! "While they are still talking Luffy spots some shade and uses his rubber arm rockets to propel the three of them to the cave. Zoro sits on a rock that turns into a sink hole. He falls into a cavern. He spots the Poneglyph, and wonders what it is. Luffy and Chopper then both fall into the cavern and join Zoro." ep 102.
only one in alabasta, the 2nd was filler!
@@JoyBoyTheories With whats happeing in the story right now it would be crayz though. queen lily and more reference the alabast kingdom. True its filler, but what if oda want more than just a tease of what they looked like, but a true misdirection. the episodes director said this when asked. Kōnosuke Uda "How did that get there, Zoro's luck led him to the Poneglyph that tells the history of Alabasta".
Looking forward to you next video!
Actually shanks lost his arm because you shouldnt use defensive Haki to get hard around children.
Basically, he's overthinking it, and that causes doubt. A person who embraces the will of D just rolls with it. Luffy doesn't really care about his D initial, but he embodies it in spirit, so it doesn't matter. But Shanks is thinking about it like a celestial dragon would; that is has to be by birthright.
it comes down to the king of the pirates does what he wants. If Shanks wanted to surpass Roger, then let a prophesy decide for him, that's why he's not the one
This aged like fine wine huh?
I think Shanks is finally going to find the OP because he believes that Luffy will soon and he wants to be there waiting for him. Maybe his purpose is to test Luffy to make sure that he's ready to take on the entire world. Luffy has to be stronger than Shanks to do that. This solution allows Luffy and Shanks to fight but doesn't require Shanks to be evil. So, Roger may have told Shanks that he needs to wait for the one who will bring the dawn and help them to do it.
True I was about to say it would make sense if he would want to atleast try challenge the person closet to getting the one piece before completely abandoning his dream
@@browlyparis3991 eitther way luffy would be oblige to giv away the hat affer completing the promise he made to him.
True, shanks has always been luffy's role model.. He served as the final wall for luffy to climb over..
I think that one of Oda's inspirations for One Piece was this really old anime where, at the end, when the protagonist got to the last island, it was the place where a very old, forgotten and technologically advanced Kingdom resided (!), its machines were powered by the sun (!!), the man guarding the island was the boys father (!!!) and the key to opening the gates of this city was a necklace the protagonist had with him this entire time (!!!!!!!!!!). I think Oda might not do exactly the same thing, but I think it will be something along those lines. Shanks being there and being the last test before Luffy can enter the island makes sense.
The name of the anime is The Mysterious Cities of Gold, by the way. The protagonist is a boy with the power to bring out the sun (!!!!!!!!). The amount of similarities to One Piece is uncanny.
Perfect time for some joy boy
Thanks for bringing this up...
I once assumed Shanks was like Whitebeard. In that, they refused to be the king of the pirates for his their reasons. But recent events have put this into question.
Recent events such as what?
@@iiD_ Buggy/Shanks interaction
@@JoyBoyTheories can you go more in depth?
@@iiD_ Buggy thought Shanks adventure would continue after Roger. Buggy seemed to think Shanks wanted to find the One Piece, and was pretty betrayed when Shanks decided "nah" last minute. It could indicate that Shanks wanted to be king, but something changed around Roger's death, as opposed to he simply never desired it.
And Oda could potentially use this as fuel for a Shanks/Luffy duel, if such a thing ever happens. "You are what I always wanted to be, lets see"
@@JoyBoyTheories oh I already understood that. when he said recent I thought he meant like this year.. lol
I think roger told shanks what his real name was that's why shanks cried because that's all he wanted, to know who he was and who is family is. told buggy that he is not going for the one piece yet because in his mind he had to get info on who and what are his family ties
This would be such a sad story for Shanks, I love it.
I would be super interested to see a video about the Gorosei and their planets in relation to the Divine Comedy by Dante. Merphy Napier posted a video about it today, but did not go into depth (see the "Recent Chapters Spoilers" timestamp). This has a lot of potential imo (although it is not easy to directly link it as she mentions), and I would love to see your take on it.
I have a feeling that roger could have also said something along the lines of “look, I know you’re someone who craves freedom, but you need to maintain this horrible status quo until the one we’re waiting for arrives.” Cause at that point in his life shanks definitely knew he was a celestial dragon, he knew about the wrongs in the world, and based on what we’ve seen in recent chapters, this drive to protect those weaker than him, being told that would have crushed him
Its still yet to be determined how important Momonosuke actually is. If it turns out that he is crucial to finding the one piece like Shirohoshi is, then maybe he could've been too early aswell due to Momo still traveling through time. He wouldnt be able to command Zunesha or destroy the borders of Wano to obtain Pluton. Maybe he can break it another to get it, idk🤷🏻♂️maybe he did have to wait the 20 years. (Fixed post to say Pluton instead of Uranus) derp
Wano doesn’t contain Uranus, it’s Pluton
@@Mizikame youre right. Pause. I meant Pluton
@@rahbe It’s ohkie :3
I believe The Arc Maxim from Skypiea is similar in nature and use as Uranus though ^_^
I think in his last sentence roger shared his dream with Shanks and told him to search for the chosen one, who shares the same dream. Only Rayleigh and shanks are confirmed to know the dream, so it is nothing Roger shared freely (just like Luffy).
Luffy already confirmed that being the freest man and therefore the pirate king is the precondition for his dream, so I think the dream is to share this freedom with everyone bringing one piece to the world (yes, it was always in the title).
Remember when Roger told Rayleigh, he won‘t die? He knew he would reincarnate. Devil fruits also reincarnate. Possibly Roger possessed the Nika fruit but it was showing no ability at all so he seemed like a normal human. Assuming that rogers soul became one with the Nika fruit and shanks went out to search for the fruit of his beloved father figure. I like the idea that shanks expected rogers son to be the best guess to become his reincarnation. So he went for fusha village as roger told him it is Garps hometown but ace was in the forests. Instead shanks met Luffy. So he waited patiently for ace and tried to attract him with the nika fruit as the fruit would hide itself from any unworthy user and get its way to the right heir.
The soul from the nika fruit attracted Luffy instead and shanks was shocked as Luffy didn’t mention his dream before eating the fruit. For getting back the fruit shanks would have needed to kill Luffy or let go of his dream. Due to Shanks kind hearted character, he would never kill innocent people and surely no innocent child.
At least Luffy is always introducing himself as monkey D Luffy, so Shanks was carefully watching Luffys behavior now. Before the stinkfish attack Luffy must have shared the dream with shanks. Shank now knew he had to save Luffy to accomplish his own dream as thereby he would be rescuing rogers reincarnation Gol D./Monkey D Luffy (two D. Initials form a circle, standing for completeness, misinterpreted by roger to be the child of two Ds, forcing it by making a baby with Portgas D. rouge). Being convinced Luffy is the chosen one, shanks gives the strawhat to Luffy as it always belonged to roger. Shanks exactly knows that Luffy would eventually become a great pirate and finally give the hat back to shanks the day when Luffy accomplishes rogers dream.
According to Vegapunk the devil fruit’s origin was imagination. I think this not the case for joy boys and Imus devil fruits, as those seem like the two original powers of the god and the devil. Vegapunk also explains that the Sun God Nika fruit is capable to bring everything to life that is imagined, implies Joy Boy was the one who created all various fruits in the first place during his laugh tale journey as he was granting his everyone their funny dreams e.g. his Clown fellow to become a chop chop man just for entertaining on their journey, not understanding what mighty powers he actually created. Joyboy being a giant lived then long enough to see the aftermath of his laughtale and that the powers now fell into the wrong hands of the 20 kings, who started to extinguish all other inhuman races. So he noted all down on the rio porneglyph on the island of laughtale for the future generations before he finally got killed by Imu. Imu took joy boys giant strawhat as a trophy and preserved it in ice.
After Luffy eventually defeats Imu with laws help who undoes the eternal life surgery by sacrificing his life.
I can imagine a last panel where Luffy stands in front of shanks grave yard, lays down the strawhat, thanks him for the guidance in his last life and then destroys all devil fruit powers with the power of his awakened god fruit by imagining a world without them in one piece and vanishes during those actions, freeing the world from the cursed devil fruit powers that brought centuries of evilness to the world and triggering the dawn of a peaceful new world.
(Hopefully I am not right and Goda has some better idea, as this sounds too much like Attack on Titan😅)
I like your theory but I think your overthinking about a few things. Roger wasn't the right man for the job, poseidon, shirahoshi, wasn't born, and Roger was at the end of his life where he stood ill and knew there was so much to be done to bring harmony back to a despotic world. Bear in mind too he probably found out till the end he needed the Nika fruit to accomplish this,Roger wasn't a devil fruit user, and must have laughed so hard at the irony of reaching the final island with the full knowledge of being empty handed
@@axelgear666 just imagine what would happen to any human if you eat choppers human human fruit. Wouldn’t they stay the same?
The elder stars only explained that in most cases the fruit abilities are a rubber body and it is hard to awake.
It would just be a funny twist, if roger had the nika but it never has shown any ability at all. That would make me laugh even harder in rogers position and even further underline the fact he’s not the chosen one. Like the fruit hid itself from the government in the strongest D alive, but that was the whole purpose of roger having it to pass it to the next D, Luffy, who was the one roger was waiting for, as he was capable of utilizing and awakening the fruit to become joyboy.
I cannot remember seeing gold roger swim around just like Oda showcased with Rayleigh (calm belt/ Amazon lily)
I think Oda anyways added the Nika idea too late to the spry bringing many inconsistencies to it as a whole. Why did the government go not harder on Luffy in Ennies Lobby and Marineford, if they always tried to get their hands on the fruit and it hid itself from them.. why didn’t the 5 elder stars recognize the fruit early and do everything to enprison Luffy (kizaru could have easily handle the situation in ennies lobby without kuma being around)
@martinjordan2023 there is always an effect with devil fruits, I dont buy the theory that roger had a devil fruit, he likely only knew of its existence when he arrived to laughtale, it part of the gag of being too late to do anything about imu and the celestials.
The gorosei even admitted how hard the Nika fruit was to acquire and how it can escape anyone's grasp. Zoans have a will of their own too.
Shanks is an interest character, he's neither the chosen one but yet another inheritor of Roger's will till the right inheritor stumbles the across Nika fruit.
Luffy is a by product of chance and destiny meeting together
Roger probably hedged his bets, if his son wasn't the sun god then it likely be someone else
Shanks is there to guide the sun god
I like your thoughts and I am totally with you. I just never heard anyone sharing the idea of roger having the nika fruit and I still think it is logically possible.
Shanks has the blood of the celestial dragons as a figarland.
Just like Sabo he was mainly influenced by the D. As he was raised by roger. But he never had the birthright to become Joyboy/Nika. If paramecia powers affect the blood, the rubber part of Luffys fruit has definitely affected his. As the kingdom of the D. were technologically advanced, they could have also changed their lineage factor. So shanks could never become Rogers heir, although he was raised to be a D. and inherited rogers will.
Luffy on the other hand never met roger and still had the same dream without being directly influenced.
Oda is Mixing all religions in one piece. There’s the Adam and Eve trees from the Bible, Asuras from Hinduism/Buddhism, so either the will inheritance is also a technological thing or some reincarnation mechanism.
Egg head Stella’s even share the same brain and still have different wills. For the technological explanation my best guess would be a paw paw fruit awakened ancient user, who triggered the the will of D and will inheritance, e.g. making the dreams physical and part of the lineage factor. Devil fruits also seem to be the outcome of the ancient kingdoms technology, but let’s see how Oda will turn this out to be.
Brooks fruit also has shown none affect during his lifetime.
Why did Oda even choose rubber to be the side effect of the son god nika fruit in the first place? Son Gods can be found in all old religions. Those stand for life, for fire, for the king, etc. So why rubber? The Gomu gomu no mi is the name in the book of devil fruits where the world government erased the name of the mythical Zoan fruit Human human(Ito ito no mi, model sun god nika. The same confirmed type of fruit is the Buddha fruit, which produced shock waves. Senghok has no paramecia effect at all and you would not see any clue he has a devil fruit.
Isn’t this the case for all Zoan? Who was not surprised when rob lucci turned into a Leopard.
So wouldn’t it be normal for the Nika fruit to have no affect on the human body in its human form? All regular Zoan without rumble ball have the three states of pure human, half animal, pure animal transformation. Additionally there’s the awakening.
Luffy shows following: human form became paramecia, his gears look like Zoan forms, but have nothing to do with his Sun god fruit. He is not partly laughing and partly playing the drums of liberation. The nika powers are only shown with awakening. So if rogers blood reacted to the nika fruit like it was a Zoan, not a paramecia, I would also expect no change in his human form body.
The nika fruit is just pretty strange, even more hinting on being the original fruit of the tree of eden.
@martinjordan2023 it's not logically possible for roger to have had the Nika fruit, the govn would have noticed straight away and upon his death tried to reclaim it.
Lets not forget the important theme of inherited wills. By Wano its made absolutely clear to the audience that Luffy is the one who inhereited Roger's will. In personality, in dreams, in the way they live the two are parallels of each other. Shanks may know what Luffy's real dream is, its not being the Pirate King that is simply a requirement to obtain that dream. And said dream is always received with mixed reactions, some think its the funniest thing, others find it awe inspiring, while few find it absolutely ridiculous. And Yamato comfirmed this dream was held by Roger for us. If anything reminded Shanks of his captain, it would be Luffy's wild dream. Mind you we the audience do not know what it is. Its just as mysterious as the One Piece. It would not shock me if that dream had an intrinsic connection to it in fact.
I actually have a theory about the Gomu Gomu no Mi and Joynoy's Will:
It's that JoyBoy and Nika are synonyms of each other (and also the same person) and that the Gomu Gomu no Mi is nothing more than the container of JoyBoy's Will.
So the Gomu Gomu no Mi actually actively inticed and detered people from eating it because it knew that the one eating it would get their will merged with that of Joyboy. So it had to be the absolut perfect match that only the Will of Joyboy could recognize. That explains why Luffy transforms from a bratty kid to confronting the Bandits only a short time after eating the Devil Fruit.
So the Will of JoyBoy inside the fruit actually could sway the decision making of people that came near it. Similar to all Zoan Fruits having their own will, only much more stronger
I also think that Roger knew from the Poneglyphs about exactly that and thought that his son would be that perfect match to Joyboy's Will. He gave Shanks the mission to acquire the Fruit and in the worst case scenario force feed it to Roger's Son Ace. That was also the reason why Shanks was in Fushia Village. It also explains why the most powerful and skillful Member of the CP9 Who-is-Who was so easily defeated by Shanks' Crew. The Fruit manipulated the Will and/or thoughts of Who-is-Who because Who-is-Who knew that he had to defend the Fruit with his life and soul. Who-is-Who also knew he would be executed if he lost this Devil Fruit. But then we see him in Wano as Kaido's subordinate explaining to Jinbei this backstory.
Shanks liked and knew Luffy but had no plans turning him into a pirate or the reincarnted Joyboy.
The Gomu Gomu no Mi recognizes Luffy as the perfect match and enticed him to eat it so the Will of Joyboy could be merged with Luffy in order to fulfill the Legend of Joyboy's Return that can do that at which Joyboy failed over 800 years ago.
The moment Luffy ate the fruit, Shanks and Lucky Roo panicked. Not because an incredibly important and expensive fruit was eaten but because they thought the wrong person had eaten the Gomu Gomu no Mi and therefore the Will of Joyboy being merged with the wrong person or even being lost completely.
But then Shanks thought back what Oden had read to Roger from on of the Poneglyphs: "The one to eat the Container with Joyboy's Will, shall be the perfect match for Joyboy's Will and will be Person to fulfill the Plan and Goal that he, Joyboy, could not."
So Shanks excepted that Joyboy's Will found the perfect match in Luffy's Will to merge with. From this on he took up the mantle of guiding the reemargence of Joyboy so that Roger's plan, for which he was to early would come true.
So what do you think?
If you want to, you can turn it into a theory video.
This is a dope theory! 💪💪
yes I have had literally the exact same theory about ace and shanks since gear 5 was revealed. Make so much more sense then shanks not having the D
@@SomeFactsYouMightNotKnow thanks.
It formed in my head shortly after the Gorosei spoke about Liffy's Devil Fruit.
Yeah, as pinkodiamond said, a lot of people have had this theory for a long time, including myself
100% my bet is shanks was told to steal the fruit and travek around untik you find someone that can eat the fruit. As the Wg has said the fruit has its own will and has evaded them for 800 years. They freaked out as the fruit finally allowed someone to eat it.
I think Shanks knows the One Piece needed to be found at a certain time (thanks to what Roger told him) and is more of someone who simply wants it to be found rather than the one who needs to find it. In stating that, I don't mean he doesn't desire the One Piece for himself; the treasure is the crowning achievement of the ambitions of pirates, but he wants to make sure that in pushing pirates like Luffy to strive for that remnant of Roger's legacy that it will find the hands of the right person who will bring about the promised dawn.
What if Shanks knew that Ace was on that island so his plan was to give him the gum gum fruit? Wanting to make Ace fullfil what Roger couldn't do. Then Luffy ate it, ruining Shanks plan haha. So that made shanks change his attention towards Luffy since he is also a D.
this has been my theory since 1046 or whatever when the gear 5 reveal chapter was
it makes more sense that Roger told shanks that his Son was the one! Luffy just ate it but by accident.
what about your takes on opla trailer please joyboy the world needs to know
I think he just wants to help luffy achieve it, since the one piece isn’t for one person anyway it’s to unite the world
Yeah. We have to keep in mind he was born into this quest his adoptive father took on, while there may have been some curiosity it wasn't his personal dream or anything.
To my mind, the questions that upset him so were probably more related to Roger's health. He'd been worried about it for a long time. Maybe he was even hoping that the final island would have some kind of a cure.
i feel like, assuming Shanks is indeed a celestial dragon, has learned about Imu and the Not-So-Empty-Throne as he was growing up and is one of the very few celestial dragons who has an understanding of ruling and protecting as well as a sense of real justice. the thing is, Shanks also understands that it cant be him alone to bring down the world government. it wouldnt suprise me if, as Luffy becomes King of the Pirates, Shanks gets offered to be the new leader of the world and be like "Nah, i dont give a damn, the empty throne is supposed to be empty", creating an actual ruling world government without a heavenly tribute, ruled by all kings in votings, no Gorosei, no Imu. i think Shanks meant that they will go claim the One Piece, but not for themselves but following Luffy on his path, propably Shanks challenging Luffy as a final test before he lets Luffy go and discover what the One Piece is.
Been waiting all week for this.
I've been wondering why Shanks isn't PK. In fact it doesn't make sense that he isn't. Him betting on Luffy is the only logical excuse. I think he's only going after the OP now is to thin the heard, and maybe test the SH.
I wonder if Shanks is like Kaido in a way. Kaido kinda used himself as a wall to find the qualified Joy Boy. I get the feeling Shanks is now joining the race just to be sure that whoever wins is truly qualified.
PS: I didn't watch the movie but from what I gather, Uta is confirmed to be a Figarland but Shanks isn't, right? Or is it the other way around?
Wooooow!!! I've been thinking about almost the same thing for months!!!! I'm so happy to see you see Shanks as I see him.
Shanks doesn't want to become Pirate King because he knows its not his destiny. If you look back to the moment Roger told Shanks something after returning to Laugh Tale which brought him to tears, its obviously he wanted to be the one to turn the world upside-down but Roger informs Shanks he is not the one but he does play a key role in the future. He probably didn't know what Roger meant by this until he meets Luffy.
he want the one piece lmao
@@hjlnbi Does he? Or is he only doing this to encourage Luffy to catch up with him and the other competition.
Didn’t he cry because Roger told him he was dying or disbanding the crew?
@@mcurran6505 he said i want the one piece when kaido and mom down lmao hes afreid
@@hjlnbihe said he think its time to get the one piece. Not that he wanted it. Shanks dialogue were always for the new generation means he knew this generation would get the one piece. Not himself
Shanks did not go to kingdom of Goa to evaluate Luffy. I think shanks went to give the devil fruit to Ace. As per Roger's wish, Ace would have been the next joy boy. But by mistake, Luffy ate that devil fruit and than luffy word's also reminded him of Roger. so Shank would have come to conclusion that Luffy will be next big thing.
He didnt bet on the future. Roger told him to support whoever shanks give the strawhat.
Rayleigh was watching while ace was being excecuted and didnt even help rogers son because he knows ace fate is to die.
Garp told ace while crying to become a marine instead of pirate cause he knows ace is going to die if he became a pirate.
Garp and roger knows the fate of the world, roger found out when he reached laughtale, he found and saw something that made him and his entire crew laugh.
Luffy isnt the successor of joyboy. Luffy is literally joyboy in the future.
World reset every 800 years.
What Roger and his crew saw in laughtale was rogers strawhat and a record of their journey. He decided to help him so sets his crew like rayleigh and gaban waiting for that person who have rogers hat.
Roger probably told wb that person hes waiting for will bring joy to the world as was written in luffy crews journal that roger will read in laughtale, obviously its not blackbeard.
I have a feeling that egg in rogers ship has time abilities and will bring the strawhat crew into the past or future 800years.
The one thing, even after all of these years, that I still don't understand, is why Shanks let his arm get gnawed off. Knowing what we know now, knowing partly how powerful he is...I'm sure he could have easily fended that bite off without a scratch even back then. So why didn't he?
My only guess is that his observation haki was so advanced even back then, and that if that event didn't play out like it did, it could have or would have changed the desired outcome when it came to Luffys journey.
Shanks was able to know the outcome of his battle with Kid before he even arrived and because of that decided to end him quickly to avoid the damage he saw to his fleet with his observation haki. So it could technically be a possibility that he saw what would have happened if he didn't lose his arm that day and wanted to prevent what he saw.
It was simply an early mistake by Oda, one which he regrets. Some editor persuaded Oda to have Shanks lose an arm for dramatic effect.
Shanks: "I saw into the distant future the moment I came to save you, Luffy. I saw the path to freedom'
just a mistake,he didnt indent to make the character extremely poweful at the beginning
Shanks and WB are my fave characters but Shanks is just not that guy. The world might end but I can't see Luffy or Garp or Roger actually going over to talk with the Gorosei and leave without punching one/all of them. That's the difference, you need a streak of absolute madness to be the pirate king, the "fuck you I won't do what you tell me to" attitude that Shanks and WB simply didn't have.
Also hilarious if Rogers last words were "You're not Him."
It would be cool if at the end luffy is just like i wanted the world to be free and it was all thanks to you i have to go know shanks but i know you will be a better king of the pirates than i could ever be it was always you im happy that i freed the world we had our own roads to open up this new dawn i have my own road to walk down destiny is just another prison i will not walk down
I think you missed an element of Shanks that has been hinted at but not said for certain. He cares for Imu sama for some reason. He knows about her, she is female, and I'm betting he wants to save her, not beat her, or some such motivation.
Shanks didn’t fight against Kaido, he stopped him, kaido was so strong he even thinks only Joyboy could defeat him, why kaido was there in the first place? To fight against the only man who could kill him, Kaido was looking for a fight to die, if Kaido saw in Shanks potential to do so why wouldn’t go against Shanks. I don’t thinks Shanks was weaker by a lot to Kaido, I even think he could be by a tiny bit stronger, but you are crazy if you think Shanks won against Kaido no diff to be even in Marineford after that completely fresh.
Shanks waited luffy with gum gum no devil fruit becoz it hasn't awakened since 800 years, becoz now he understands that luffy is the man roger is waiting for & at some point of time when they met both luffy and shanks will go against world govt
I wonder if the reason Shanks waited so long to go after the One Piece is because he now sees Luffy is right there ready to take it and Luffy promised him he would become a great pirate like him / surpass him. So this would be a great friendly rivalry / competition and would solidify even more in Shanks mind that Luffy is the one Roger was waiting for if Luffy gets the One Piece somehow (either beats him to Laugh Tale or beats him in a fight).
So considering Shanks personality, the interaction with the mountain bandits and Luffy's interaction with Bellamy, I can't see that he doesn't have a dream of his own. What is it then, what want does he want to fulfill on his own?
I'm only 4:16 into video and I still firmly believe gol d rogers words to shanks that made him cry (that we don't know yet) is that shanks is not to be the new joy boy. He was not the one to enherit the gomu gomu no mi. For whatever reason, gol d Roger had the proof of this. And this is why shanks knows he couldn't just eat the fruit. It's even more suspicious that his whole crew is non fruit users. 🤔 But not suspiciously bad.
This feels so perfect in retrospect.
While it's possible to believe Shanks' could've been "that person", to be fair, we still don't know exactly why the time frame was so important.
Why was a man as powerful as Roger stopped due to being "too early"? Even if Shanks' decided to pursue Roger's dream himself, could he have also been stopped by being "too early" as well?
It's possible that the 20-year gap itself might have more significance than we think, which is why Shanks chose to bide his time until then instead
I really love this video I very much agree with the ending portion
Isn't Buggy a D? Maybe Buggy was found in something funnier like a big wooden Dong(?)
your previous style of editing was better
I just happened to find this on crome while setting something up and kinda just watched it
But what if much like Sabo, Shanks was given the initial out of love and being told by Roger that he was his son regardless of blood. I think that would've made Shanks cry too
i agree with u that i cannot see Shanks as evil. i am a romantic that feels his mentor role will end in him sacrificing for Luffy. maybe D is for Dream which Shanks didnt have personally before, he was trying to fulfill Roger's dream. It was a belief, not his own dream. Even BB had some sort of dream he was going after.
Maybe his recent change in heart to seize the One Piece was to protect it.
it would be such a powerful statement for Shanks' last words to be "Hey Captain Roger, i too, am a D now"
But you’re right, Shanks is not emperor, level but pirate, king level just like dragon and Shanks losing arm, did not diminishes power I mean look at him he’s going to four emperors of the sea his feet of one piece are legendary and he did all this being a one arm man I mean, it will be a hax and hype if he could manifest a new left arm made entirely out of HAKI
lmao hes the weakest yonko
@@hjlnbi How come he one shot Kid when he tanked plenty of attacks from LinLin?
@@hjlnbi did you hear what he’s did he clashed with whitebeard Kaido stop sakazuki’s magma punch with just his sword, and he made the magma punk wet his pants and made him scared of him and was able to talk with the five elders who does that
@@gerardocovarrubias3058 yeh akainu clash with wb and he stopped akainu hit to coby lmaaaaaaaaao even kinmon stoped kaido
and he talk with them bacuse hes garling son lmaaaaaaaaaaaao
@@phillemon7664 kids gun blow on hes face
WOW ! great video on shank and partly buggy
I remember many years ago reading a theory where Shanks went to Goa kingdom because he was searching for Roger's son Ace. But he probably met luffy before that and also probably didn't make contact with Ace cause WG may found out about Ace. From what we saw Shanks rather protective about Ace too.
Shanks has a big potential to become greatest villain in shonen history. The plot twist will be insane, imagine
I think Shanks wants to protect Luffy from Blackbeard and the God Knights
It would be dissappointing and
THE GOATTTTT
your previous style of editing was better
When I was listening to this, I had a thought about that scene between Roger and Shanks. The exact words that Roger spoke that made Shanks cry:
"You aren't my son."
Probably not true. But would definitely be devastating.
I think there is something about the timing of it all too, like Rogers said that he wished he was born at the right time, but he wasn’t. So maybe there is something else to it too, that makes it so Shanks understands he can’t be Joyboy even if he ate the fruit. Not just the D thing.
Considering the return of JB was prophesied - yeah, couldn’t be Shanks. He was already born.
The timing was wrong as Poseidon(shirahoshi) wasn’t born yet.
Well he probably got told. Even if he finds it, the ideologies of Joyboy do not resonate with Shanks because he is not a D. All he is doing making sure the right person fulfils Roger’s will. He came to Wano, there he would have taken the poneglyphs rubbish from the Strawhats. Despite warning Kid, Kid would have kept his rubbings but lo and behold, he decided to get himself clapped. Now Shanks has no choice but to get to Laughtale, him and Buggy.
I belive Shansk feel crused to fate. And when eh clashes with Luffy they will have the argument, if Luffy feels Shansk was a coward liek Buggy did or if everything Shansk did was cause he wanted to see what happened. To Shansk maybe, he feels teh world will never change, nor did he feel he alone coudl do it. Maybe its true that he cries over that he could not be Rogers heir, but as thinsg have shown. People that resign themselves "just because" limit themselves. So the Clash of Luffy with Shansk will finally be where Shanks see what he needs to do and what he could do. He will shape the world, together with others.
That makes so much sense that's why he was always drinking 🤣🤣🤣.shanks was so strong will, that buggy believed he'll be the next pirate king, but when he didn't chase a one piece buggy lost respect for him. But buggy doesn't know what when down between Roger and shanks.
How if Buggy is actually the Figarland family and Shanks is Rock D Shanks? Roger mixed them up when they are just a baby, that will blow the whole one piece world 😅
I really think Shanks just want one thing which is a duel or a serious fight with Roger's chosen (someone like luffy who mirriors Roger well) . Shanks grew up looking up to Roger and when Roger died the person is gone and he wants to proof himslef to Roger. and in many stories we see someone who help the hero to reach the top so they can have a 1 Vs 1 at the end of story
Put some respect on Kaido. “In a 1 v 1, bet on Kai D. O
In some ways I think it's more that Shanks rejected fate rather than the other way around, he had the chance to do it but he didn't want to, those reasons feel tied to whatever Roger said to him when he returned, a truth only he knows that made him want to enjoy his life before committing to the new era. It's worth reminding too that there was the prophecy of the monarchs meeting over a decade away, so even then it would not have been the right moment regardless of whether Shanks or Roger believed them to be 'the one'.
But I don't think he saw himself as that one, if he did he wouldn't have stayed with Buggy to see Laugh Tale, and he didn't seem bitter about it when he said he wasn't gonna go for it yet, the man enjoyed himself, he followed his own will of merriment and adventure rather than trying to claim Roger's will. Shanks only became a Yonko after betting on Luffy, and there is a sense of him understanding the status quo, but I feel like Shanks simply wanted to live outside of Roger's shadow (in a non-bitter way) but also knew that whatever will shake the world, be it him or another, he could balance the deck, and perhaps his ties to the Figarland family gave him better insight to keep that balance in check
Roger wasn’t the right person. Joyboy was the right person and it’s Luffy. That person was said to be the one that will surpass the Roger Pirates. Meaning the Roger pirates surpassed the Rocks Pirates in terms of strength.
I don't think that Shanks is "evil", but I don't think that he cares about Luffy as a person.
It's kinda like SPOILER FOR CHAINSAWMAN:
Makima, who cares for Chainsawman, but doesn't give a crap about Denji. Shanks seems to be the same. He cares for Luffy, because he's become the potential Joyboy. Look at the chapter where Shanks fought Kid. He literally had a child similar to kid Luffy there and dismissed him the same way he dismissed Luffy at first. Only when Luffy ate the Devil Fruit, Shanks suddenly cared about him.
And about the Shanks not eating it. What if the theory is true, that the One Piece (or Laugh Tale) makes Devil Fruit users sick? Buggy and Toki got sick when approaching it (Buggy later cause he was younger). What if Roger had a DF maybe even the Gomu Gomu no Mi and got sick, but still continued. This would further explain him not being "the one". He had everything, but destiny didn't choose him. That would explain why Shanks has no known DF users in his crew. And that is why Shanks stated going after the One Piece NOW, because Luffy is ready to receive it, but not capable of going after it himself.
Also also, I think One Piece will have a bitter sweet ending, where almost everyone dies. 7/10 members in some shape or form could be close to dying/being killed. So in the end, they all fullfil their dream and die. Only Usopp, who made all his lies become the truth returns and writes a picture book like Noland the liar, but about the great strawhat pirates
BUGGY WAS used at marined ford by oda to confirm mihawk doest have conquers haki notice when mihawk noticed his standard sword cuts were not working on buggy due to buggys fruit but wait of you have conquers haki you can negate and nullify a devil fruit users abilities so why didnt miahwk coat his sword in conquers and cut buggy to get to luffy....BECAUSE HE DOESNT HAVE IT
If roger have a df, it will be the df luffy have... Due to coming early on the laugh tale he sacrifice himself true the execution so that the df will be reborn again and that is what the other Roger pirates are task to do the get the hito hito no mi and find the person worthy of it, as shanks got the df he didn't consume it because he believes he is not the one and accidentally or by fate it was consumed by luffy. hahhaha
Hey JB! Regarding prophecies, I’ve been thinking about Shirley’s propechy about The man in The Straw hat destroying fishman Island. Since We now know that The government have their own (frozen) Straw hat, is it possible that She didn’t mean Luffy but maybe Imu?
There is much I disagree with this video stems from our different intepretation of Roger's last words to Shanks and the circumstances to the obtaining of the One Piece, below are my personal interpretations:
1. Shanks had never given up on the One Piece. He merely waited for 20 years, as he stated "now is the time to go for the One Piece", not "now it's time for me to help Luffy get the One Piece", there is no giving up his dreams for Luffy in my interpretation.
2. The One Piece is not Roger's Treasure, it was left behind by someones else (most likely Joyboy) during the Void Century, Roger merely advertised it to the world of it's existence, which could be intepreted as even Roger did not obtain the One Piece, and was in fact a failure because his timing is off, the world is not yet ready for the One Piece to reveal itself. The One Piece also could not have been part of Roger's dream in the first place, because it was unknown before it's discovery by Roger himself, meaning Roger not only failed to optain the One Piece but also failed to achieve his own dream (the same one he shared with Luffy). Furthermore, Oda himself had said that once the One Piece has been found, the series will be over, which put doubt into whether the One Piece is indeed the treasure left behind in Laughtale at all, maybe the treasure is just part of the puzzle to obtain the One Piece, with the One Piece itself being more conceptual like "World Peace" or "Liberation of Mankind".
3. What does it mean to be too early? What has changed since Roger's time that makes the One Piece obtainable at the present time? We know for a fact that multiple ancient conspiracies have come to ahead at the present time, with the birth of Shirahoshi, Momonosuke (who is only here because Toki uses time jump to get to about 30 years ago, making this a planned move), Luffy's awakening of Nika, and maybe Vivi all happening at the same time frame, with Clover discovering the translation method of the poneglyths and Vegapunk reviving ancient tech enmass, this is the moment in time 900 years in the making.
4. Shanks may have cried because Roger pointed out his failures to him, shattering Shank's image of his father, revealing the dying man with unfulfilled dreams beneath his ever confident exterior, but also told Shanks how to succeed where he had failed. So why did Roger fail? He was too early, therefore he lacked the "power" to obtain/achieve the One Piece, so what is the "power" that was missing? I would say it is "powerful friends and a sympathetic world". As great as Roger was, he was a terminally ill man with a single crew, with a few friends here and there. Even if he did beat the WG, the power vacuum left behind would quickly throw the world into perminate chaos for hundreds of years. But 20 years later, the WG is facing multiple super powers with lesser powers forming their own power blocks that could fill in the void once the WG falls, multiple super weapons reviving as powerbase for WG's virious challengers to obtain to have a fighting chance, voices of decent from within the WG's very structure from rebeling kingdoms to defecting Admirals, the One Piece is only obtainable when the world itself is ready for it. It takes more than a single man to save the world, remember the failure of Roger and Joyboy. I think Roger told Shanks to surpass even him.
5. How to surpass Roger? Why did Shanks wait? Why didn't Shanks try to eat the Gum Gm fruit himself? One of the themes of One Piece is nature vs nurture, it matters where and how you were born, the importance of bloodline elements/DNA is a testament to that, but people can fight their genetic destiny, with friendship, Sanji/Sabo's story has shown us that (that is also why I believe the D initial is by choice, not by blood). It is very possible that the Celestial bloodline itself literally can not go against the will of the Creator (remember how the Gorousei acted in front of Imu), and therefore, Shanks being part of the bloodline, can not fight against Imu directly, he needed allies, and he found Luffy and mutiple others (such as Elbaf) who will support his endevor. Shanks is making his move because his setup is finished. He will not try to become the Pirate King, he will instead try to surpass his father and obtain One Piece for real. That is why I think he will fight Luffy for real instead of playing gatekeeper like Kaido, all men are capable of reaching the top, may the best man win!
Shanks told kiado don’t worry joy boy is coming in about three years. That is your fight not helping WB.
My idea why Roger was "too early", because all 3 ancient "WEAPONS" were not born in the current age, Shirahoshi wwas still minus 4, and maybe Uranus wasn't born either, or was young like Momonosuke
All "weapons" need to be present for something to happen at Laugh Tale
Shanks decided to go for the One Piece right after they defeated Kaido. To me it seems like he was waiting for someone to get the Poneglyphs from Wano, Whole Cake, and Zou. We know Shanks is strong but he doesnt have a big crew so invading Kaido or Big Mom at their headquarters would be difficult even for him. And im sorry but i dont think he was able to find Zunesha. they are pirates.
Or Shanks is doing things based on fate, even though he’s not chosen. He serves as the guide. When the student is ready the master appears. ie Yoda and Luke. And even Po and oogway from Kung Fu Panda. To what extent the end is set up, Shanks might sacrifice himself for Luffy.
What if there's another possibility for Luffy's mom, one that we haven't thought of.
"Dragomom!"
Who would be the father then? I hear you ask. Wel Roger, ofc.
Maybe he also knew it wasnt time to go get the one piece, like Roger said he was 20 years to early. maybe now those 20 years past and that's why only now Shanks wants to go get it.
Shanks is strong for sure but he is a man with no real goal of his own, he carries out the goals of his former captain, Rogers last words nerfed Shanks as a character but didn't nerf his power and strength, Shanks is a bland character overall, he shows up and the community goes crazy over some feats of strength here and there. Shanks will always be one of the list of characters that people don't understand along with Garp and Mihawk who are often misunderstood characters. We also don't know Dragon other than his goals and that he is the father of the main character but goals is what makes a character as a core, Shanks doesn't have his own personal goal which is actually kinda sad, he's a yonko just wandering around which is why him and Buggy fell off, Buggy had a clear goal and he might MIGHT reach his goal before our main character if you wanna take to joke that far lol Buggy is a Yonko now, its funny because the joke is closer to reaching his goal while the one piece community gets drunk over Shanks' power who doesn't have his own goal.
I still think that shanks was in goa kingdom intending to give ace the fruit. Roger probly told him ace would be joy boy. So when shanks tells whitebeard he made a bet. It's not just about his arm but that roger was wrong and ace wasn't joyboy. He believed in luffy.
Its sad that you're not on oda's team bit maybe that too is for the best. Oda has already gone on record saying this story is going to be written so that 12 year olds, kids, could easily understand it.
What you just described in this video is above what oda will or ever could accomplish. Shanks is just a strong dude as far as I'm aware. Not cuz there's no potential in him but that's what oda intended.
But this parallel you drew was amazing. How I wish for it to be true but sadly this isn't a story for adults. It's a story for kids. He won't go that deep because of who his target audience is.
Shanks is not going to take the D. It seems like things are set up for Buggy to take the D. At most Shanks might get given after dying.
It makes way too much sense if Luffy, Blackbeard and Buggy - who all want to best Shanks are D.
I never understood the whole contraversy with shanks arm, Like I get the dude is strong af but the lord of the sea basically had his jaws around fluffy and shanks was in town. I could totally see him getting there just barely in time and there being no other option than to give up an arm. Only part I don't like is like a year later Luffy smacking the fuck out the lord of the sea when he leaves windmill island, but I feel like that can be written off as Shanks valuing Luffy's life above his own.
I reckon roger never found the one piece but instead had arrived at it and could never obtain it.
So near but yet so far kind of deal.
I reckon to access it requires joy boys power of imagination which can likely also counter the negative effects of the sea/sea prism stone whilst in the form Rather than being able to circumvent it like aokiji turning it to ice for instance… or brook running quickly over the top of it etc.
The D in peoples names likely means they’ve just got the potential to have the will necessary to unlock the model nika and use it appropriately - it doesn’t necessarily mean they are more powerful they are just a key that has a chance of fitting the lock
Edit - I wrote and posted this just before the end and I love the idea of the D not mattering. Almost as if it’s just a way of rejecting the establishment in the same way the straw hats rose their fist for ViVi
there is no way the D is just a letter added to the name
it is a lie and will be the biggest disappointed in the series ever since we got Luffy's fruit changed if the D is not blood related thing.
everything says it is blood related, EVERYTHING! from the smile when you die, the recklessness, the pride and I can go on. there is a very clear criteria that every D person shares, even teech who is not an honorable persons acts as one
He just want to prove fate that he is the the real deal, defeating Joy Boy (the most broken person by destiny), so that's why he was waiting for someone, to defeating it later
Shanks going to clap Luffy, I believe yes
DISCLAIMER (before I watched video)
I’ve been working on a theory based on the concept of this title!!!! Nooooooo
I am not quite sure if shanks could really defeat Monkey D. Dragon, Luffys farher. After the law, he is properly the strongest haki user alife today.