Both ☺️ raw for the “actual” photos and jpg for one of two off site backups, being able to pull quick files without having to process them and for speed of my same day edits.
I love it how you, Vanessa, despite being a wedding superstar - still read and reply to the comments and not only that… I was asking about the no-70-200 a couple of weeks ago and now you’ve added the plantation to this video! That is awesome!
At 1:50 Vanessa said the R5 turns a 135mm lens to a 200mm. Her R3 does that (crop-sensor) so 1:1.6. The R5 is a full-frame camera, so 1:1. Other Canon crop-sensor mirrorless cameras include: EOS R100, EOS R50, EOS R10, and EOS R7. Sports guys love these for the extra reach out-of-camera. Sounds like Vanessa loves them for reaching into reception dance floors. I’ve never thought of that. Very cool idea. Wonderful channel. Vanessa could still take outstanding photos with a $500 set-up.
5:36, I personally prefer the EL-1 because its so well integrated with the R bodies and have a solution for using the profoto and having the EL-1 on camera wirelessly trigger the profoto. You just pickup a phottix receiver, sync it with your el-1 4 digit code, check for green led (means the flash and receiver are connected), then mount your profoto trigger to the phottix and hang it on your b10's light pole and SHABANG you get to have your cake and eat it too! I recently had two profoto A2's at a b-day event triggered that way and it was swizzeeet!
I find 89mm (1.6 X 56mm) ok for portraits. Im a hobbyist so I take pictures of family members on special occasions. The lens I use is the sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN (ef-m version)
I've recently experimented with the lens taking pictures of myself (head to tummy) with the camera on a tripod and me triggering the shutter remotely. f/2.8 gives a good result with decent bokeh, f/5.0 gives some background context (immediate items are decipherable but still blurred, far items still blurred significantly), f/8.0 gives even more context (immediate background is almost in focus, far items are decipherable but blurred)
I guess a change has been made in your bag. Your secret jewel 135mm is now RF one. For quite some time I'm in a dilemma over buying a RF 70-200mm f/2.8 ( I've got an EF 70-200mm f/2.8 mk 2 that's a gym dumbbell) or a RF 135mm. I love the versatility of 70-200mm lens but the weight holds me back from using it more often. The new RF version of 70-200 is considerably lighter and compact. On the other hand RF 135mm is even lighter and it goes down to f/1.8 but lacks the versatility. Whatever I decide to buy I won't make a mistake. Thank you for making another great video. I like your videos for posing wedding couples.
I was considering the 135 for my next purchase. I primarily shoot sports but also senior portraits and I've wanted an upgrade to my 85/1.8 for portraits and something that can also focus faster for some action photography in poorly-lit gyms. The reminder that I can switch to a 1.6 crop sold me! Thank you!
I finally have an answer for you about my camera strap! creative-teacher-9768.ck.page/1fb5eeedd8 this will be VERY limited so lmk here if you want to know when it's available!
I enjoyed your video. The whole wireless backup/share on ipad thing seemed very clever. I sometimes wonder about using one of those fujiphoto printers to give copies - but i can see clouddrop might be better. Good clarification on 70-200. I was expecting to see a 50mm in the bag - if only in case of a disaster!
I feel that "oops" so much. I was always bumping and dropping those magnetic attachments. Ended up using bits of gorilla tape to make them more secure in crowded and tight spaces.
I love the 135mm too. I don't use 1.6 crop mode. Since it's a digital zoom, I don't waste time switching from full to crop mode and back again. I just zoom in (crop) in post. Helps me concentrate on getting the shot, instead of concentraing on the mode my camera is in. To each his (or her) own. Still waiting for the 70-135mm f2.0 so I don't have to buy an 85mm f1.2.
See for me it takes me more time to crop it in post, but also because I use Freedom Edits and they do all of my editing, it’s better for me to do it in Camera so that I don’t even have to communicate things that I want cropped closer and post at all. It’s already done :-) That being said, I absolutely have forgotten that I was in a 16 crap mode before and it screwed me a little bit so you might just be better in your approach than I am!
I use the r3 with the 28-70 at weddings now. the low light is better and the files are smaller so it takes up less drive space. the r5 i use the RF100 for ring shots and small details only in prep and the EF105 1.4 sigma on the R5 for ceremony and cocktail I use RF28-70 but if the RF85 very nice if there is room for it and if the background is kinda cluttered, ugly and i cant back up a lot i will try to use the rf50 1.2. For lights I bring 3 A1X and 1 A10. I use magmod on all of them and I have grids, gels, scoops and the dome thing. for outside and off camera lighting I will use the b10 if kinda cloudy or getting dark and the b10 plus if it is harsh ugly sunlight. I use a reflector for the light if the strobe isnt overpowering the sun or a manny ortiz BD if I can over power the ambient. I forgot to add i use the 15-35 just from wide room shots and thats it but that is of the lowest priority on my shot list.
I wonder where you keep your equipment at the wedding when your off shooting,or do you carry them around and do you ever get concerned that somebody might steal something.
Wow, that is a lot of gear Venessa ! Do you not worry about security, ie your gear either getting damaged or stolen! ? The best kit I would use as a wedding tog would be the AirPad on the bar, as that is a very nice touch !
I do! Usually someone that shows interest in learning wedding photography and I interview them via video chat and then have them come on smaller shoots first. Ideally they end up getting trained to be a 2nd shooter too
Loooove this video. You explain things so well, this is where you shine. And, it's not a Short! Yay! That ipad is a beast lol. How do you set up your lock screen and other security features? Guided access? I wouldn't want people running around in there changing settings. The IT geek in me gets nervous lol.
You’ve been at it a LOT longer than I have! And wha!?? No 70-200? That last tip about setting up your iPad for folks to view photos from the shoot is a great idea. And did you say that the photos on it are ones from that same day wedding shoot? (I just picked up the RF 70-200mm f/2.8 IS USM for my EOS R.) 👍🏻👍🏻💙💙👍🏻👍🏻
Haha nope. No 70-200. I know, ppl think I’m nuts. That might change but for now I’m so happy with my 135 doing the job. And yea - Same day edits and PRINTing too. I’ll have a video out on that soon!
@@VanessaJoy thank you for all your amazing videos! but the iPad and print service is an additional paid service or do you do it just to surprise the guests?
Hi Vanessa. You mentioned you use R3 for the reception. Which lens do you use with the R3? I use R6 with 28-70mm and a flash on top until the entrance is over. Then I change to a lighter prime lens for the rest of the night.
@@VanessaJoy I see. The rf 15-35mm is the only missing lens in my bag. It's very tempting with the $400 discount. I avoided it because of the heavy vignette at 15mm and the wobble for video. Thanks for reply. I guess it's now or never. Haha.
No I can’t, even after they closed I bought another one and I’m just gonna scour the Internet for Gnarboxes until I can’t find them anymore. Because it really is no replacement that I have seen that’s any good. If you find one let me know
No Fuji printer anymore? I thought the surprise concertina prints were a really nice touch, Vanessa. It's on my list for things I want to start doing this wedding season but I just bought a new lens 😂
How many ppl are in your entourage to assist switching out gear and managing the devices? This is a great reveal but looks hard if single-handed. Also, what do you think about renting gear as-needed, instead of purchasing (esp. Profoto & Canon, no third party)?
Renting is definitely a great option but ultimately purchasing will be a less expensive option over the long run depending how many times you rent or if you end up renting to buy
Actually, I encourage them to airdrop the photos to themselves. I don’t make money on print sales from guests. However I DO make money from people seeing my pictures all over social media and then hiring me for their photo needs. ☺️
Why the EF to RF mount with control ring? instead of the one that doesnt have it, and its only $129. Also I'm getting $7500 and looking to get a new mirrorless setup, finally. I shoot sports and portraits/weddings; and decided on a R5 as my base camera; and only have $4500 to use on lenses. So the 70-200 RF is prob my goto sports lens then cant decide between the 28-70 f/2 and the new 24-105 f2.8. Would there be another lens I'm missing? 15-35 RF 2.8 is the only one i'd do. Thanks for any input.
I thought I’d use the control ring more than I do. 🤷🏻♀️ the one you have is great too. Isn’t it only $99 though? I recommend the 28-70 for sure. And maybe the 16mm 2.8 for your wide (less expensive and you’d probably only use the wide here and there)
@@VanessaJoy I am asking as my a10 eats up battery in stand by really fast ( with Bluetooth off and air 2 off ). The official profoto answer to this was to remove the battery if I don’t use the flash. Curios if the b10 has the same behaviour. Thank you for the fast response!
This might be the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen. Not only was this video sponsored by Adobe as clearly started, but I spent more time talking about my Canon gear than anything Profoto (both of which didn’t pay a cent for this). Congratulations, you’ve reached a new level of low viewing comprehension.
Even though I shoot Nikon, and I really like your videos... but this video overwhelmed me... your camera gear is more expensive than my 2019 Jeep! Some poor soul will think they need to spend $20k to get started... oh my! very disappointed...
I never said you “need” this gear to shoot a wedding. This is what I have in my bag after 20+ years of being a professional photographer. If you’re disappointed in my showing the gear that I use, well, that sounds like a person problem I just can’t help you with. 🤷🏻♀️ In the meantime, I’ve already recorded a video about minimum gear to shoot a wedding (and another about minimum Gear or headshots, and another for portraits, and another based on $1000 budget, another in $2000 budget and another on a $5000 budget)… all currently being edited. But yeah, be very disappointed in showing the gear that I use day in and day out to run my business
@@VanessaJoy Oh, this was not a slam! Honest at 20 years of pro photo I would expect you to have better gear than the average "Joe". Like I mentioned I enjoy your insights and I am smart enough to know how to adjust to my style of work. I think that my frustration is as much to do with YT and Camera Manufacturers. I get it, show the biggest and baddest gear, but it is disappointing to know that all YT show are $5k bodies or even $3k. It's the state of the industry that really disappoints. I know you didn't say one "needs" this but you know as well as I do that there are those that will think they need this gear to shoot like YOU. I apologize if needed. And thank you for responding.
I finally have an answer for you about my camera strap! creative-teacher-9768.ck.page/1fb5eeedd8 this will be VERY limited so lmk here if you want to know when it's available!
What do you shoot raw or jpeg?
Both ☺️ raw for the “actual” photos and jpg for one of two off site backups, being able to pull quick files without having to process them and for speed of my same day edits.
RAW
No professional photographer uses jpeg. Also to be clear; there are several sizes of jpeg; you should be shooting in RAW & Large Jpeg.
HUGE thanks to Adobe Stock for sponsoring this video!
I love it how you, Vanessa, despite being a wedding superstar - still read and reply to the comments and not only that… I was asking about the no-70-200 a couple of weeks ago and now you’ve added the plantation to this video! That is awesome!
I know thats so cool
Doh! plantation should of course be EXPLANATION and nothing else. But hopefully you understood.
@@michaelanderberg you can edit your post :)
At 1:50 Vanessa said the R5 turns a 135mm lens to a 200mm. Her R3 does that (crop-sensor) so 1:1.6. The R5 is a full-frame camera, so 1:1. Other Canon crop-sensor mirrorless cameras include: EOS R100, EOS R50, EOS R10, and EOS R7. Sports guys love these for the extra reach out-of-camera. Sounds like Vanessa loves them for reaching into reception dance floors. I’ve never thought of that. Very cool idea.
Wonderful channel. Vanessa could still take outstanding photos with a $500 set-up.
aw thanks
How do you guys like the NEW TH-cam studio setup?!
I love it. My studio is not that fancy :(
Love it. More minimal. Makes you pop a little. Not like you don’t pop before. But you know what I mean lol
Love it! Shut up and take my moneyyy!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣Thank you Vanessa! 😁
Aw - one day!
Haha I get it ☺️
5:36, I personally prefer the EL-1 because its so well integrated with the R bodies and have a solution for using the profoto and having the EL-1 on camera wirelessly trigger the profoto. You just pickup a phottix receiver, sync it with your el-1 4 digit code, check for green led (means the flash and receiver are connected), then mount your profoto trigger to the phottix and hang it on your b10's light pole and SHABANG you get to have your cake and eat it too! I recently had two profoto A2's at a b-day event triggered that way and it was swizzeeet!
That is next level the same day edit!
I find 89mm (1.6 X 56mm) ok for portraits. Im a hobbyist so I take pictures of family members on special occasions. The lens I use is the sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN (ef-m version)
I've recently experimented with the lens taking pictures of myself (head to tummy) with the camera on a tripod and me triggering the shutter remotely. f/2.8 gives a good result with decent bokeh, f/5.0 gives some background context (immediate items are decipherable but still blurred, far items still blurred significantly), f/8.0 gives even more context (immediate background is almost in focus, far items are decipherable but blurred)
I guess a change has been made in your bag. Your secret jewel 135mm is now RF one. For quite some time I'm in a dilemma over buying a RF 70-200mm f/2.8 ( I've got an EF 70-200mm f/2.8 mk 2 that's a gym dumbbell) or a RF 135mm. I love the versatility of 70-200mm lens but the weight holds me back from using it more often. The new RF version of 70-200 is considerably lighter and compact. On the other hand RF 135mm is even lighter and it goes down to f/1.8 but lacks the versatility. Whatever I decide to buy I won't make a mistake. Thank you for making another great video. I like your videos for posing wedding couples.
I was considering the 135 for my next purchase. I primarily shoot sports but also senior portraits and I've wanted an upgrade to my 85/1.8 for portraits and something that can also focus faster for some action photography in poorly-lit gyms. The reminder that I can switch to a 1.6 crop sold me! Thank you!
Vanessa, you should make your own brand of camera strap like that and sell them. We would buy it.
I finally have an answer for you about my camera strap! creative-teacher-9768.ck.page/1fb5eeedd8 this will be VERY limited so lmk here if you want to know when it's available!
I enjoyed your video. The whole wireless backup/share on ipad thing seemed very clever. I sometimes wonder about using one of those fujiphoto printers to give copies - but i can see clouddrop might be better. Good clarification on 70-200. I was expecting to see a 50mm in the bag - if only in case of a disaster!
Love these gear breakdown vids
Happy you find them useful ☺️
I feel that "oops" so much.
I was always bumping and dropping those magnetic attachments. Ended up using bits of gorilla tape to make them more secure in crowded and tight spaces.
Ugh so true
I love the 135mm too. I don't use 1.6 crop mode. Since it's a digital zoom, I don't waste time switching from full to crop mode and back again. I just zoom in (crop) in post. Helps me concentrate on getting the shot, instead of concentraing on the mode my camera is in.
To each his (or her) own. Still waiting for the 70-135mm f2.0 so I don't have to buy an 85mm f1.2.
See for me it takes me more time to crop it in post, but also because I use Freedom Edits and they do all of my editing, it’s better for me to do it in Camera so that I don’t even have to communicate things that I want cropped closer and post at all. It’s already done :-)
That being said, I absolutely have forgotten that I was in a 16 crap mode before and it screwed me a little bit so you might just be better in your approach than I am!
Hi 👋 Vanessa! I really love your budget photography shootouts too!!!
More coming soon!!
Thank you so much Vanessa
That 85mm is a monster! It's such a great lens but it is scary to grab! It's HUGE! But the quality... damn!
Thank you for sharing all of you contents with us. I saw the canon 85 RF in person and it's bigger than people think. Beautiful lens.
Ha it is pretty epic
I use the r3 with the 28-70 at weddings now. the low light is better and the files are smaller so it takes up less drive space. the r5 i use the RF100 for ring shots and small details only in prep and the EF105 1.4 sigma on the R5 for ceremony and cocktail I use RF28-70 but if the RF85 very nice if there is room for it and if the background is kinda cluttered, ugly and i cant back up a lot i will try to use the rf50 1.2. For lights I bring 3 A1X and 1 A10. I use magmod on all of them and I have grids, gels, scoops and the dome thing. for outside and off camera lighting I will use the b10 if kinda cloudy or getting dark and the b10 plus if it is harsh ugly sunlight. I use a reflector for the light if the strobe isnt overpowering the sun or a manny ortiz BD if I can over power the ambient. I forgot to add i use the 15-35 just from wide room shots and thats it but that is of the lowest priority on my shot list.
The R3 is awesome for the entire second half of the day
That 28-70 f2 (basically almost a 1.8 zoom lens) that is awesome. Wish Sony or Nikon made something like that. May have to look at Tamron.
Great tip with the Ipad. Appreciate the share!
Glad you like!
I wonder where you keep your equipment at the wedding when your off shooting,or do you carry them around and do you ever get concerned that somebody might steal something.
In line of sight and I have an assistant that also watches and helps with gear
Omg the rate button….I didn’t know this was a thing and that’s going to help so much for grabbing favorites
Haha such an underrated tool!
Thank you for all the great tips Vanessa. Just started my you tube journey ⭐
Congrats!’n
Wow, that is a lot of gear Venessa !
Do you not worry about security, ie your gear either getting damaged or stolen! ?
The best kit I would use as a wedding tog would be the AirPad on the bar, as that is a very nice touch !
I have equipment insurance and an assistant that helps with gear ☺️
QQQ: Do you use an assistant for your wedding shoot? If so, how did/do you select them? Thank you.
I do! Usually someone that shows interest in learning wedding photography and I interview them via video chat and then have them come on smaller shoots first. Ideally they end up getting trained to be a 2nd shooter too
Loooove this video. You explain things so well, this is where you shine. And, it's not a Short! Yay!
That ipad is a beast lol. How do you set up your lock screen and other security features? Guided access? I wouldn't want people running around in there changing settings. The IT geek in me gets nervous lol.
I just don’t have anything connected to that iPad whatsoever. I just use it as a display and that’s it. No personal information or anything
@@VanessaJoy perfect. Thanks!
You’ve been at it a LOT longer than I have! And wha!?? No 70-200? That last tip about setting up your iPad for folks to view photos from the shoot is a great idea. And did you say that the photos on it are ones from that same day wedding shoot? (I just picked up the RF 70-200mm f/2.8 IS USM for my EOS R.) 👍🏻👍🏻💙💙👍🏻👍🏻
Haha nope. No 70-200. I know, ppl think
I’m nuts. That might change but for now I’m so happy with my 135 doing the job.
And yea - Same day edits and PRINTing too. I’ll have a video out on that soon!
@@VanessaJoy I'll certainly want to watch that when it's ready!
@@VanessaJoy thank you for all your amazing videos! but the iPad and print service is an additional paid service or do you do it just to surprise the guests?
@@VanessaJoy i don’t blame you. Sometimes I’ll just toss on the 1.4x with the 135
Thank you Vanessa, you are so organized, practical, and a seasoned pro :) Also, a great presenter. I am sure your could promote almost anything.
Well thank you ☺️
Hi Vanessa. You mentioned you use R3 for the reception. Which lens do you use with the R3? I use R6 with 28-70mm and a flash on top until the entrance is over. Then I change to a lighter prime lens for the rest of the night.
28-70 and then the 15-35 usually
@@VanessaJoy I see. The rf 15-35mm is the only missing lens in my bag. It's very tempting with the $400 discount. I avoided it because of the heavy vignette at 15mm and the wobble for video. Thanks for reply. I guess it's now or never. Haha.
Question: since your custom strap is no longer available, do you have any other suggestions?
Black rapid straps I liked a lot
Bummer Gnarbox discontinued. Can you suggest a replacement?
No I can’t, even after they closed I bought another one and I’m just gonna scour the Internet for Gnarboxes until I can’t find them anymore. Because it really is no replacement that I have seen that’s any good. If you find one let me know
No Fuji printer anymore? I thought the surprise concertina prints were a really nice touch, Vanessa. It's on my list for things I want to start doing this wedding season but I just bought a new lens 😂
Nope. I got a Canon SELPHY and it’s awesome and WAY faster printing too
How many ppl are in your entourage to assist switching out gear and managing the devices? This is a great reveal but looks hard if single-handed.
Also, what do you think about renting gear as-needed, instead of purchasing (esp. Profoto & Canon, no third party)?
I always have an assistant on weddings. It’s necessary for me and a huge value ad for my clients for not a ton of money ☺️
Renting is definitely a great option but ultimately purchasing will be a less expensive option over the long run depending how many times you rent or if you end up renting to buy
You don't worry about people at the wedding airdropping photos at the reception affecting the sales of the overall wedding?
Actually, I encourage them to airdrop the photos to themselves. I don’t make money on print sales from guests. However I DO make money from people seeing my pictures all over social media and then hiring me for their photo needs. ☺️
@@VanessaJoy 👌Gotcha
How are you enjoying living and working in Texas?
It’s amazing!!
Hello greetings from Argentina, I did not understand anything but well haha
wow 💯
Why the EF to RF mount with control ring? instead of the one that doesnt have it, and its only $129.
Also I'm getting $7500 and looking to get a new mirrorless setup, finally. I shoot sports and portraits/weddings; and decided on a R5 as my base camera; and only have $4500 to use on lenses. So the 70-200 RF is prob my goto sports lens then cant decide between the 28-70 f/2 and the new 24-105 f2.8.
Would there be another lens I'm missing? 15-35 RF 2.8 is the only one i'd do. Thanks for any input.
I thought I’d use the control ring more than I do. 🤷🏻♀️ the one you have is great too. Isn’t it only $99 though?
I recommend the 28-70 for sure. And maybe the 16mm 2.8 for your wide (less expensive and you’d probably only use the wide here and there)
Thank you! Your videos are very helpful and thanks for getting back to my question so quickly! 📸
You are the besttttt.. i love you..
Thanks 😊
Does the b10 battery drain while in standby like it does on the a10?
I’m sure slightly since it’s holding power settings and such
@@VanessaJoy I am asking as my a10 eats up battery in stand by really fast ( with Bluetooth off and air 2 off ). The official profoto answer to this was to remove the battery if I don’t use the flash. Curios if the b10 has the same behaviour. Thank you for the fast response!
Cool. $6k BACK UP camera? I need to start shooting weddings 😃
Very lucrative business 😉
I ❤ ur videos ☺️
Thanks so much for watching!
Hello pretty woman, those lenses are sooo expensive, even more here in europe.... Nice studio BTW...
Feel like I stepped back into 2008
1000 for flash ,?
yup
Who’s fronting the replacement iPad when a drunk wedding guest drops and smashes the iPad? Great idea but scary at the same time.
My equipment insurance
Profoto commercial
This might be the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen. Not only was this video sponsored by Adobe as clearly started, but I spent more time talking about my Canon gear than anything Profoto (both of which didn’t pay a cent for this). Congratulations, you’ve reached a new level of low viewing comprehension.
Maybe 1 day in the future, photographers will bring 1 iPhone that can do everything with the power of Ai... .looooool.
Oye 🤦🏻♀️
If anybody is worried about your camera strap, then they aren't a photographer of note.
Huh?
Her weddings must have three seating areas. Bride / Groom / Her gear.
Pretty much
The sound of those nails on the narbox and iPad was rather grating.
Grating?
@@VanessaJoy yes, somewhere between nails on a chalkboard and a puppy’s nails on linoleum. 😂
@1:11 I assume all your fanboys have TVs at home put vertically including yours? 😀😅🤣
You should probably look at the stats of how many hours I are spent watching a TV and how many hours are spent watching a phone 😉
@@VanessaJoy So you are wasting your camera for IG algorithm? 😀😅
Even though I shoot Nikon, and I really like your videos... but this video overwhelmed me... your camera gear is more expensive than my 2019 Jeep! Some poor soul will think they need to spend $20k to get started... oh my! very disappointed...
I never said you “need” this gear to shoot a wedding. This is what I have in my bag after 20+ years of being a professional photographer. If you’re disappointed in my showing the gear that I use, well, that sounds like a person problem I just can’t help you with. 🤷🏻♀️
In the meantime, I’ve already recorded a video about minimum gear to shoot a wedding (and another about minimum Gear or headshots, and another for portraits, and another based on $1000 budget, another in $2000 budget and another on a $5000 budget)… all currently being edited. But yeah, be very disappointed in showing the gear that I use day in and day out to run my business
@@VanessaJoy Oh, this was not a slam! Honest at 20 years of pro photo I would expect you to have better gear than the average "Joe". Like I mentioned I enjoy your insights and I am smart enough to know how to adjust to my style of work. I think that my frustration is as much to do with YT and Camera Manufacturers. I get it, show the biggest and baddest gear, but it is disappointing to know that all YT show are $5k bodies or even $3k. It's the state of the industry that really disappoints. I know you didn't say one "needs" this but you know as well as I do that there are those that will think they need this gear to shoot like YOU. I apologize if needed. And thank you for responding.
caw wa Bunga! Vanessa if you make your own brand of straps, you'll retire!
Ugh I actually looked into it and it’s a HUGE pain and about zero profitability
I finally have an answer for you about my camera strap! creative-teacher-9768.ck.page/1fb5eeedd8 this will be VERY limited so lmk here if you want to know when it's available!