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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2020
- Equipment :
・DeLonghi Dedica EC685
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・Compak K3 Touch Coffee Grinder
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・Bottomless portafilter 51mm. for DeLonghi Dedica
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・Dossing cup 51mm.
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・Coffee Distributor 51mm.
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・Coffee Tamper 51mm.
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・Coffee Station 51mm Wooden 3 holes
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・Timemore Scales
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・Pitcher 350ml/12oz
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Camera :
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Canon RF 24-70 F2.8 L IS →amzn.to/2X3uQiM
Canon EOS 5D Mark III
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Really enjoying these videos. I recently bought a bottomless portafilter basket/grip off Amazon, and had an incident where the grip is becoming loose during extraction. Could you suggest why this may be happening? I'm yet to improve the grind quality and learn how to tamp properly, just getting started with this after using the pressurised basket for so long.
god damn you for making me desire this machine even MORE.
Get this machine. I have the EC680 since 2015 Jan. And still running strong.
Nice videos!
Can you tell me, which tamper and distribution Tool you are using for the bottomless portafilter? My delonghi tamper dies not fit inside!
Thank you
Hello! I also have same equipment as yours. How much coffee grounds you put in the basket? I always experience the basket goes out easily and my double wall glass got broken as well.
Great looking drip consistency!
Where did you procure the portafilter and basket? I'm looking to make this mod on my dedica delonghi and I would appreciate the assistance
www.ebay.com/itm/Bottomless-51mm-Coffee-Machine-Portafilter-Filter-Basket-for-Delonghi-EC680-685/143637832296?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D227684%26meid%3D7b285c74bbe64b8fa3bcc8610ea2542d%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dco%26sd%3D373108507091%26itm%3D143637832296%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV2bGenderDemotion&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
Any tips on how to achieve that kind of crema when using a bottomless portafilter. I just got a bottom less portafilter and didn't get the same kind of crema.
Did you have to reset the water output of the single shot button?
What number fine did you grind your coffee with 2.3 ?
Hi, is the graef cm702 grinder good enough for espresso with a non pressurized filter basket ?
Sir i am planning to use bottomless portafiler but I always make 2 cup how do you suggest I do it since bottomless dont have spouts thaks
Great vido, thanx for all the info. Just one question. I purchased non pressurized open portafilter. Can i get a good grind with my hario skerton pro?
I have never used it. But I think it works, you have to try it.
Hey, love ur videos, is there a non pressureized Porta filter available online which fits the Dedica machine?
www.ebay.com/itm/51mm-Coffee-Bottomless-Portafilter-For-Delonghi-EC680-EC685-Filter-Replacemen/303590352996?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Ddf9b568ccc40475abf52a27ae6674a4a%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D193824983391%26itm%3D303590352996%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Ad366333d-69cb-11eb-b863-4e5cac9af59a%7Cparentrq%3A800b77121770acc6ecd53d2affef845a%7Ciid%3A1
Relaxing video 😌...Can you give us please the size of your bottomless Port-filter for buying the right one.
bottomless Portfilter 51 mm. for DeLonghi Dedica EC680/685
Hello! Nice set up! Care to share where you bought the bottomless portafilter, distributor and tamper? :)
www.ebay.com/itm/324550764773?hash=item4b90bba8e5:g:ELIAAOSwPv9gGk-I
@Arty Home. How do you get yours to pour so slowly? i get 16g grind-40g water in about 5 seconds. My grind is quite fine from what i see, and i tamp it tight. Yet it still flows through too fast. Im using a Dedica 685 machine with a Joe Frex portafilter and a Delonghi KG520 grinder
Hi, I have the same issue. The problem is with the Delonghi machine primairly but KG520 is a low end grinder, too (for fine grinding). Try to buy freshly ground coffee for espresso set grind in a local café and tamp it hard. Also, due to Dedica 685 being a sh*t machine, you may even damage the seal beneath the grouphead when you use non-original Delonghi portafilter, so be careful! (see video titled: How to replace a group gasket seal on your espresso coffee machine | delonghi dedica ec685). This happened to me
Pls mention quantities used for beans and extraction
Waoooo can you telle me where did you buy porte filtre
So does the taste differ alot. From pressurized (orginal baskets
If you want to change the basket you will need good fresh grinding and right tamping if not stay on the original basket.
Should i grind finer when using bottomless than pressurized? If yes, is the difference is so much?? Because i already had a nice grinder setting for the pressurized ones.. Just want to know how much should i change the grind size for the bottomless
Its for sure useless now since its 1 year but for me i changed it too and still little struggle find right proportions and grind size. I do 15-16 grams but i grinded coffee to finest how my coffee grinder could . Since little coasted and coffee would just floe so quick . And this way its better . On classic portafilter from dedica it was way more easy but there with same grind size that basic one from dedica cant get water though it
Bought bottomless portafilter but i cant get that thick crema
I have an issue that the coffee will not "focus" in the middle point and there is no crema. What can be the issue? Too coarse grind?
Yes, the problem is that the ground coffee is too coarse.
How do you know what level depth to set the distribution tool?
Minimum just to level it out and then tamp
Great video. So 18g in what was the output 36g after 25 seconds ?
How many is that in table spoons ?
its a classic for a very good espresso (2:1)
Trying bottomless on dedica. Used 18 grams , 17 grams , even 16 15 and now 14 . Tryed grind it really realy fine and once even more coasted but still everytime coffee is more watery. Tryed even 100% arabica fresh coffee beans and even 1 and half month old or 5 months old one but still same i think. How to make it slow? More fine and strong temping is not working . Maybe get more grams but temp it differently?
Need eureka mignon silenzio grinder and up.
Where did you buy the open bottom basket and Non-pressurized?
www.ebay.com/itm/Bottomless-51mm-Coffee-Machine-Portafilter-Filter-Basket-for-Delonghi-EC680-685/143637832296?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D227684%26meid%3D7b285c74bbe64b8fa3bcc8610ea2542d%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dco%26sd%3D373108507091%26itm%3D143637832296%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV2bGenderDemotion&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
How fine grinding the coffee? 0,5 / 1 ?
I have the same setup there and I am getting channeling and squirts of coffee Coming out at 18g, how do you think I can fix this
Finer grind just make sure its not too fine or it will choke the machine you just have to dial it in if its too fine keep working back or forth to find the perfect grind size
The distribution tool really helps prevent channeling
Do you press the single cup or double cup espresso for 18grams of coffee ?
I set it on a button for single cup. Brew ratio 1:2 ,18g in, 36g out
how many grams do you use? 18 grams?
which buttom do you press for extraction? have the same coffee machine and the same filter, i'm looking a result just like yours. Btw nice video!
It doesn't matter which button. You need to reprogram it for every particular coffee and grind size. He's obviously not using factory settings)
Hello,
Did you try to grind with the delonghi grinder and use the bottomless portafilter?
BTW your coffee station is neat and attractive
I've tried it, but the grinder isn't fine enough.
@@ArtyHome Thank you for your quick reply! I love he look and the price of the delonghi grinder... So it's gonna be an Eureka
@@fxbertrand4 Eureka is better.
I also bought a similar bottomless portafilter from aliexpress but when I try to make the coffee, the coffee is squirted all over the place and there is really not much crema coming out. After the mashine stops, the coffee inside the portafilter is muddy and really soaked. What could be the reason?
You grind the coffee beans too coarse.
@@ArtyHome thank you but I have been grinding with the graef cm80 on the finest setting 🤔
Love the video,
QQ, got the same setup with the buttonless.
18 grams looks too much on the filter.
And when i tamp it is either too shallow so the shower head is too close or it is too hard there is no extraction.
So how much is the space u have between the puck and the top of the filter?
Can the coffee type affect spurts, cause i seem to do all those things and still get spurts” i shake, level, distribute and tamp”?
Thanks
The coffee powder should not be fine enough. If the coffee grind is fine enough to fit up to 20 grams with this bottomless, please try again.
60 gr de café casi. Es una proporción 1/3 no?
i did that to my 680, extraction was horrible...no crema its was literally just dripped coffee. any advice?
you need grind much finer, the basket is unpressurized. The resistance comes from from the coffee puck
Hi can you recommend a good grinder for making this level of coffee. Thanks in advance.
Can you share what grinder you're using?
Compak K3 touch.
Not high end coffee, but really nice videography. What camera did you use?
Canon EOS R and EOS 5D Mark III.
you press the double shot or single button sir ? looks great
Single button.
ต้องลดแรงดันให้เหลือ 9 บาร์ไหมครับ วันนี้พึ่งได้ bottomless มา แต่เหมือนน้ำจะแรงมากครับ พุ่งกระจายเลย ถ้าไม่ได้ลดแรงดันต้องปรับเบอร์บดให้ละเอียดกว่าเดิมอีกไหมครับ
เราสามารถทำได้คือการปรับบดให้ละเอียดมากขึ้นครับ ที่เป็นแบบนี้ปรับบดเมล็ดกาแฟหยาบเกินไปครับ
@@ArtyHome ขอบคุณครับ เดี๋ยวลองดูครับ
What is this grinder? Thanks for sharing
Compak k3 touch
@@animalsarethebest3974 thanks again
@@yinyang592 no prob, mate. :)
Just bought my dedica today first machine i got what is the bottomless portafilter for ?:p should i get it :)
You have to buy it for yourself from ebay.
The bottomless portafilter is useful to roughly tune the grind. With it you can check if you're getting micro-channeling, which ruins the shot. This is only relevant if you have a non-pressurized basket, which you may also need to buy (but most spare portafilters already come with one in the kit).
Make sure you have a decent grinder before buying a non-pressurized basket. There are some cheap (50-60€) grinders that can be modded to be somewhat decent, altough for a nice one youre looking more around the 300€ range. Or around 150€ if you dont mind it being manual instead of electric. REALLY nice ones are even more expensive.
If you only use pre-grinded coffee or have a low end grinder, you're better off with the included portafilter and pressurized basket. Pressurized baskets are not too picky about the grind quality (but a properly tuned grind in a non-pressurized basket produces better espresso than anything a pressurized basked can do).
@@ArtyHome is it the Sodial Brand?
@@falcon81701 that's one which fits, yes
@@maxbarrett2135 i already bought one recently and it works well
I don’t understand it, you must be doing something different than me. I have this exact machine and bottomless portafilter and each and every time I make a shot, I cannot get a single stream of coffee for the life of me. What am I doing wrong?
There are two main parameters to take into account : the grind density and the tamping pressure. Always use the same amount of coffee so this parameter is set. Try to tamp your coffee consistently around 35/40lbs to begin and play with the grind density. The goal is to obtain around 25/30s of extraction time starting from the first drip for a 30mL espresso. But to use the bottomless configuration of the dedica you can change the pump from an EP5 to an EX4 (more pressure 15bars to 20bars and a slightly slower flow rate for the famous crema to develop).
Did you change yours?!
Are you using default time (for double shot ) that was set by manufacturer?
I set it by myself.
@@ArtyHome how long?
I'm struggling to find a small (1 cup) non pressurised basket. Do they only make 2 cup ones?
Not a lot of people drink single shots so it'll be hard to find. I would look on aliexpress.
Found one on a china store so skim the interwebz 😎
I actually found out that you can get one for La Pavoni on Amazon and it fits the DeLonghi portafilter! Just need to flatten the top a bit.
does anybody know the corresponding temperatures for the 3 preset temperature options? great videos btw!
Yes would love to know this too
@@falcon81701 so the other day i measured the tempreture. if the machine is fully warmed up high/90, medium/88 and low/86
@@noahkrzywon3787 thanks. How did you measure it?
@@falcon81701 preheated a cup and then put a sensor of a multimeter into it. know there are more precise ways but at the end its precise enough
and dont forget to preheat your portafilter with the machine
where's the extraction time? why not any ml's info at the end? just one more fine looking vid and nothing more
where did you get the 51mm funnel ?
eBay.
@@ArtyHome link?
@@djalexxxgr www.ebay.com/itm/51mm-Coffee-Bottomless-Portafilter-For-Delonghi-EC680-EC685-Filter-Replacemen/283906663348?hash=item421a27e3b4:g:VrsAAOSwbR9e3ggZ
@@ArtyHome thanks m8 but my question was for the dossing funnel and not the portafilter. i have 2 of those :P
@@djalexxxgr www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Stainless-Steel-Wine-Whisky-Cup-Mug-70ml-2oz-Hip-Flask-Accessories/392211080228?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5b519a2424:g:FjUAAOSwuvFcLoZs&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkyMJZWL%252BqFSgQ3TOOe%252FNr7pFEh9H88OEYFKavH9FDkVhTcqH4sWjCe5iB5JEYVUR%252Bh9eslcPF6br%252BtNmak9DG3ScPecgYRCtRYeUiKRBeKoGVJ7MlwlHWrQloemxDE39miYtPb8sPoiYjN6VOGzgOr3cegMHcyPsP7s4Od7ZlxbOt5EyxfwP5UkfxZzP%252B4XL%252FPPB1drrACY0rTZlgIhNyM4fe3WBUliAenAeUdi%252BudRDyBpUkp5KFkW4jX5tQSWRi2A8uyvZVp4IljlV7KHfm5szcMhJfaomFJz7cXSIClsHbxoSyX0N3rMEHuU7q1foIoG4UkFX%252BIo5WM2KJEmICiHaq%252FL7ELBtgji%252BDZprUvECtob%252BkiFHkmtukqeYo%252BJkGzJn2sbJEJEK%252BUZauz%252Fe5M4GaceP2MOA%252FHqhfFv9bynccNN9vb0pWxgyiIbuaRrieVzCVb%252Fq%252Bf7KW%252BJjW0Nv3%252FGWnJQVBAJr47CnOwaAe6tJKBz4mEjyZdvvr6GCEuwihXLvaq6vvngvlRTjUWiHuNrMY9rrW2VqzOGYlc%252BQCRxYH%252Bo%252FiUTvoVwgUMORrtGYkS8Ve1i4pzVnZvSnEnvnbEz%252Fk956D8fYYzYwecFzN5w0avrATXJhsT76vXu9PjrnUhlUEegvtHYOyBNh%252BPNZANz%252BKDHzERaQoU6bldXEeylPyEMd4qyondR8uKQUWJlXxs05tv4uEn7WnabBSJhA2rtJUAbA6kGfHwhgGoqenHU9YzXgV4OlIsfOaj95%252BHDodudVyDHFExOec4BxGINL28w%253D%253D%7Ccksum%3A3922110802285c6f0e1ecaa046348a5a099de2a46c38%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524
Hello, i got some trouble, so maybe you can help me. I use the OG Portafilter, modified to be bottomless, with one wall baskets (single is like 7g, and double like 14g of coffee) for the ec685. I also use a Sage Grinder Pro and already set it to the finest level (via hard grinder settings, not just via button). So if i take a double shot with leveling tool, accurate tamping i get good results (at nearly the finest level via buttons and finest level of grinder) but if i try single shots they extract way to short (at finest setting allover). The singleshots extracts in appr. 15 seconds, but im already at finest level. Do you think the Sage Grinder Pro isnt good enough to grind fine for the single shots or do you have any tips? (Sorry for my bad english)
Hi Miles, what is "OG" Portafilter, do you mean OriGinal?
Whare did you find a single wall 7g basket?
I'm not able to finde it anywhere.
Thank you
@@giodeluigi Yes i mean original and the Single wall Basket was given to my from the seller (i bought the portafilter and basket from eBay)
Name a coffee grinder please
Compak k3 touch.
I have the same portafilter, the same distribution tool and the same tamper 🙂 . and probabily the same problem as you, and that is a 51mm tamper cannot fit in this basket. 50mm would be much better , but no one on the internet tells you that
delongys 51mm fits perfectly
alex doumas if you reffer to the provided plastic tamper, I agree. it fits perfectly. because it is 49mm wide 😂
@@gordanbabic8028 the expensive one m8 that delongy sales. the plastic one not even close to tamper maybe a baby toy :P
alex doumas this metal one cannot enter the basket for more than 3-4cm. after I use my distributor tool to level my coffee bed there is no use in tamping because it cannot penetrate deep enough. but alas ... I don't have the original delonghi's tamper
@@gordanbabic8028 i put 20gr of coffee and feels ok. its not ment the 2cup basket to hold less than 18gr of coffee
It doesn't work for me !!!
Same machine, same portafilter. Why my DeLonghi does every type of coffe in less than 10 seconds? In these videos the water flow is so slow
Cause too fat coffee grind size
Kindof grinder
compak k3 touch.
WTF is all that background noise...