"Wow, this is a nice car! Gauges, shifter, wheel. Is this all for show, or is there something more I should know about?" - Porsche seeing the M3 GTR for the first time, probably
@@Adiya_55 "Heh, good idea! Let me tell you what's about to happen, we'll take your car, tear it apart, and then see if it's street legal and then we'll order 2 number 9's, a number 9 large, number 6 with extra dip, number 7, 2 number 45's, one with cheese, and a large soda." :)
Fun fact about the "Straßenwagenversion": Although they produced 10 road legal versions, only 7 can be driven on German roads. A rich woman (my theory: Susanne Klatten) bought 2 road legal cars as an investment but never registered them in Germany. The cars gained astronomical values but she can't register those cars in Germany for road legal use since the laws for safety and emissions standards got stricter, thus it would fail today's requirements. Those cars are basically worthless in Germany except she could ship them to countries like Saudi Arabia, where it might be possible to legally drive those cars. I'm not sure, what happened to the 3rd car, but this is what I heard from my guide when we went to BMW Classic.
@@Calisotaif a car was never registered it is considered a new car. So a car that old with no registration would have to undergo todays regulations and would obviously fail.
1:55 See the Kurt's Restaurant sponsorship? I've eaten there, a very highend German restaurant near Road Atlanta In Georgia of all places. He had a diecast signed of this car with the logo on display in the restaurant. Very cool.
It's a shame it wasn't widely sold, perhaps porsche hadn't been so vehement with banning the M3, maybe they would've produced and sold a few more. Thankfully we got the E9x M3 afterwards which came with a V8 as an answer for the GT2 regulations.
Just look at the price! It was a quarter of a MILLION compared to the standard M3s price of 50 to 70 grand! I remember the road tests of the time LOVED this car (I remember the 4.4ltr version tested?) but all said it was too expensive.
BMW M3 GTR e46 was the car we wanted to buy in future when we were kids. Thanks to this car, I have known and started love all of the models of BMW. 😎🥃
Great video as usual ! One thing to point out though is that the street version E46 M3 GTR carried very little parts from the standard E46 M3. They shared door skins and tail lights. Any thing else was E46 M3 GTR exclusive like bumpers, headlights with lighter covers, CF hood, flat underbody and the even lighter roof and trunk lid skins contributed to the "Unobtanium" status it had.
The reaction of me staring at the ceiling lying in my bed after knowing this is an unobtainable dream was heart crushing ... It was more painful than anything else I've ever experienced. Thanks for this particular video
I got to witness it along with 2 z4gtes some years ago at PIRC the week of the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. It sounds amazing and flames off-throttle. The z4s were clearly faster, but one of them burned that day. All 3 had those long intake trumpets that you'd think would choke the engine, but obvious the engineers knew what they were doing.
You forgot to mention the straight cut gears which made its sound more distinct and iconic, because many nfs players couldnt fathom a gearbox with all gears sounding like the reverse gear and thought the NA engine was supercharged
I started working in BMW plant and I managed to meet a man who worked here for 41 years. He was working with E46 M3 GTRs too. He told me plenty of crazy informations about it, damn.
What’s funny is I grew up with the dude who did that street version of the GTR. It’s a “nice from 7ft away” build, as we never saw eye to eye on quality over fame
They made 2, 5L V8 versions for the ALMS series. 1 of these made it to Australia to race in the Bathurst 24hr race in 2004, owned by Maher Algadri. Was more recently sold at Auction a few years ago.
I always imagined That the nfs mw driver Was a real race car driver Some how he got bored or went rogue and left the racing life And he started racing in street races plus how accurate the Bmw gtr was the build the sound Love this game it is going To be my favorite of all time Have an interesting story but Comment section isn't enough
Dumb af, in Greece we used to import M3 GTRs in parts then assembly the whole car when all the parts needed were in house. using street legal M3's body. Gotcha 😅😅😅
Thanks for the video! This is The unobtainium. (For me at least.) Just give me the motor. I would figure out what to do with it. Might bankrupt me though.
0:05 i was att a car show few years back and they actually had one of the spare chassies for sale. it was the spare chassi for the car in 0:05 it had the exact same livery and all to. believe it never actually saw any racing so it was a fresh spare rolling chassi they never needed.
Hang on.....i coulda sworn i seen E46 M3's still racing in the US until 2006 in grand am (the other side of what imsa became in the early 2010's) i think it was the GTR but still funny enough what actually killed the E46 was the pontiac GTO and the mazda RX-8 by pure virtue of them being faster and more agile than the aging M3
for that price buy an e46 car or just the chassis swap/buy the engine for the better v8 on the e92 the s65 fab the firewall buy a straight cut 6 speed dog clutch manual gearbox and a adapter plate too find yourself a good body shop get that e46 some spot-welding fab a roll cage double wishbone the front and the rear get the GTR body kit and side exhaust the bad boy from there you may have some more to spare
In my opinion, the first NFS Most Wanted (2005) did this car a real injustice by making it sound like an angry swarm of bees. Also sounded more like a Straight-6 than the actual P60 V8 that the GT-R variant came with. Still an awesome car, it was my absolute favorite in the game. Edit: It was really hard to place the original engine noise to be fair. Couldn't quite put a determination on what it actually sounded like. Definitely wasn't the P60 though lol
Lots of race cars run Enkei rims because there’re light and cheap. The stock rims are way more practical for street use because they’re stronger and marginally heavier. CSL rims for the win!
The race cars had centre lock magnesium BBS wheels that I don't think you could've bought at the time if you weren't BMW anyway. Even if you could they would be anything but cheap and nigh impossible to produce at production car scales. Plus that would've necessitated centre lock hubs for the street version which would've meant using the race car brake discs and calipers minimum with a one off master cylinder and biasing valve because you can't use racecar esque dual master cylinder setups on street cars.
There is a myth I love to believe, that BMW Motorsport has a EXACT Replica of NFS MW M3, with the same livery, in its Race-Spec in the Garage. And that it is still racing someday or another on Nürnburg Ring time to time.
Well I actually made a video of the BMW M3 GTR being sold at YTG, the one in your thumbnail. And if anyone wants to, they can watch the onboard 2004 videos in HQ on my channel.
BMW: *makes a masterpiece that can beat Porsche using a custom built engine not available to the public* Porsche: *talks with FIA about the unfairness BMW is doing and cries until the rules are changed* #anditookthatpersonally
and so many tried to replicate the MW05 GTR and always... always chose the wrong damn bodykit. The proper kit is the wider version of the Strassenversion, not a later iteration. Hence the black version has the Strassenversion included. Andres iteration was probably the worst out of all. Theo (Blackpanthaa) might be able to pull it off, despite using a regular 3 series coupe and not an M3. At least the kit he chose looks actually the closest (for beeing a replica kit, the real Racing kits from BMW are biiiiiiiiiiiiiig ticket items). All other appearances in latter NFS games are just mere "wannabe kit-cars", not the proper deal and should never be accounted for. Why do people care about the headlight washers so much for example? Using the halogen headlights saves weight over using Xenons and their ballasts. And afaik xenons werent even an option for the '99 MY of the E46, which the MW05 GTR is based off of.
This was Porsche's move. The E46 chassis was ultimately pulled because of the stipulations that the P60 wasn't a fair move to race with and an S54 based platform would never see 24hrs. Things got legal and Porsche spent $12M making sure the GTR stayed in its grave.
Yes the GTR was extremely capable and Porsche knew it from the beginning. The move to ban it was politically infused and heavily incentivized. It's considered one of the worst moves in sportsmanship of that time. I only know this because I work for BMW.
@@Dgadudeyeah, I remember a BMW advertisement poster making fun of Porsche when they banned the GTR from ALMS. That's cool that you worked for BMW, may I ask if you happen to know, was the decision to build the E9x M3 with a V8 made as a result of this debacle or was it before then?
I honestly still don't get why the BMW E3 was the one. I guess because NFSU1-2 walked so MW could run, and be the game at peak need for speed popularity. There are a few cars from U1/U2 that I like much more than the more basic BMW.
@@Local_Player5101 How poor is your reading comprehension to have made it to that sentence after explicitly saying Underground walked so MW could run, when it came to the NFS popularity peak at that time, leading to the M3 taking over as the popular car.
BMW has made some great engines. I am no fan of their cars. They should rehire all of the Karmen people and resurect that business and let them build cars designed by Italian companies using thier better drivetrains. No linguine rod bearing engines need apply here. Just imagine what a beautiful machine they would have!
"Wow, this is a nice car! Gauges, shifter, wheel. Is this all for show, or is there something more I should know about?" - Porsche seeing the M3 GTR for the first time, probably
"I would like to take a peek under the hood"
-ALMS Organizer (probably)
Kek! Pinstripes! Skkrrrrrrrt!
@@Adiya_55 "Good idea! Let me tell you what's about to happen. We're going to take your car, tear it apart, and see if its street legal "
"Everyone?"
" *EVERYONE* "
Porsche engineers getting ready to over engineer their cars to extreme, probably
@@Adiya_55 "Heh, good idea! Let me tell you what's about to happen, we'll take your car, tear it apart, and then see if it's street legal and then we'll order 2 number 9's, a number 9 large, number 6 with extra dip, number 7, 2 number 45's, one with cheese, and a large soda." :)
The Need for Speed Most Wanted bmw made alot of us into car guys
ronnie: how'S yoUR car RuNniN?
Mia: Hey, there's something wrong with your ride. You left a huge oil slick at the start line. You have to end the race fast!
I will always remember the song Avenged Sevenfold - Blinded In Chains, one of my favorite bands.
Need for speed underground's riced out cars got me into cars!
Thats a bullshit what you say
Fun fact about the "Straßenwagenversion": Although they produced 10 road legal versions, only 7 can be driven on German roads. A rich woman (my theory: Susanne Klatten) bought 2 road legal cars as an investment but never registered them in Germany. The cars gained astronomical values but she can't register those cars in Germany for road legal use since the laws for safety and emissions standards got stricter, thus it would fail today's requirements. Those cars are basically worthless in Germany except she could ship them to countries like Saudi Arabia, where it might be possible to legally drive those cars. I'm not sure, what happened to the 3rd car, but this is what I heard from my guide when we went to BMW Classic.
Who is her husband tho ?
Only they need a lot of money for a contribution for the government and those cars will be automatically eco-friendly
Just that its irrelevant if the car is a young or even oldtimer bc then they can skip a ton of regulations
@@Calisotaif a car was never registered it is considered a new car. So a car that old with no registration would have to undergo todays regulations and would obviously fail.
shipping such cars to arabs is a crime. they will basically leave them in some dusty abandoned garage as soon as something breaks.
The way the intake restrictor plenums flexed on the Dyno Run was mesmerizing!!
The car that is most wanted, is now wanted by, as Cross said it "EVERYONE!"
BlackBox studio picking up this story and turning it into a game protagonist shows how much they loved cars
There will be no one like blackbox in the amount of effort they put in every part of need for speed that they made
And in NFS carbon was a team called rotor 4 with the colours of the Mazda 767b😊
A true BMW race legend and one of the most iconic touring cars ever build.
1:55 See the Kurt's Restaurant sponsorship? I've eaten there, a very highend German restaurant near Road Atlanta In Georgia of all places. He had a diecast signed of this car with the logo on display in the restaurant. Very cool.
Now that's what I call Kurt's Killer Ride.
(It's a Need for Speed Underground 1 reference)
It's a shame it wasn't widely sold, perhaps porsche hadn't been so vehement with banning the M3, maybe they would've produced and sold a few more. Thankfully we got the E9x M3 afterwards which came with a V8 as an answer for the GT2 regulations.
Just look at the price! It was a quarter of a MILLION compared to the standard M3s price of 50 to 70 grand! I remember the road tests of the time LOVED this car (I remember the 4.4ltr version tested?) but all said it was too expensive.
A quarter of a million is supercar money, so Ferrari, very high end Porsche, Lamborghini, McLaren etc could be bought with that kinda money!
@@davekennedy6315The M3 Gtr by all standards was a Super car
@@davekennedy6315 The CLK GTR was 2 million by the time it hit "shelves." 250k meant nothing to those who have the luxury.
BMW M3 GTR e46 was the car we wanted to buy in future when we were kids.
Thanks to this car, I have known and started love all of the models of BMW. 😎🥃
Great video as usual !
One thing to point out though is that the street version E46 M3 GTR carried very little parts from the standard E46 M3. They shared door skins and tail lights. Any thing else was E46 M3 GTR exclusive like bumpers, headlights with lighter covers, CF hood, flat underbody and the even lighter roof and trunk lid skins contributed to the "Unobtanium" status it had.
MY CREW IS ALL FIRED UP
Y'ALL BETTER JUST WISE UP
EVERYBODY GETTIN' SIZED UP
BEFORE YOUR RIDES UP
START RUNNIN YOUR TIMES UP
CUZ' WHEN MY CREW RIDE UP
The reaction of me staring at the ceiling lying in my bed after knowing this is an unobtainable dream was heart crushing ... It was more painful than anything else I've ever experienced. Thanks for this particular video
Your weird.
@@seymourbutz6951 no. You
@@seymourbutz6951you’re, ESL Neanderthal
You can recreate it tho, just add the body kit to an old bmw like e36 or something you will find on the internet
@@fx_1513 obviously you can, but won't be the real thing right? And I hate fakery
6:03 "flexing" intake by flow
Tak týmto si mi spravil veľkú radosť 😁
Materiálu o M3 GTR neni nikdy dosť 😉
💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I got to witness it along with 2 z4gtes some years ago at PIRC the week of the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. It sounds amazing and flames off-throttle. The z4s were clearly faster, but one of them burned that day. All 3 had those long intake trumpets that you'd think would choke the engine, but obvious the engineers knew what they were doing.
They probably are not just intake but restrictors to get it within allowed spec at the same time.
One of the best looking BMW race car ever
Thank you! I look for every video that shows the M3 GTR in racing, hopefully with time we can learn more and more about this championship car 🚗 💨
That straight cut transmission was even louder than the engine itself.
You forgot to mention the straight cut gears which made its sound more distinct and iconic, because many nfs players couldnt fathom a gearbox with all gears sounding like the reverse gear and thought the NA engine was supercharged
I started working in BMW plant and I managed to meet a man who worked here for 41 years. He was working with E46 M3 GTRs too. He told me plenty of crazy informations about it, damn.
I just came here to say, “Most Wanted”.
Nice! Loved that game back in the day . They really hit the spot with that engine sound
"We Change the History, and They Change the Rules."
- BMW Motorsport maybe
More like "We bend the rules so boldly, They are forced to change the rules."
I believe the legendary sound is actually from a TVR Cerbera in NFS MW 05'
I think they used a TVR cerb sound file for the engine sound.
Impressive car. Good to see it in both environments. Proud to be a Patron of this channel.
its a shame the street version never saw true production, guess ill have to settle for an e46 CSL at some point in the future, in lieu of a GTR
What’s funny is I grew up with the dude who did that street version of the GTR.
It’s a “nice from 7ft away” build, as we never saw eye to eye on quality over fame
To the few people that have this car...
Watch out in Rockport City. Someone wants your ride.
Impresive torque from a 3995cc NA, especially as it seems to be spread thorough a wide RPM range for a touring car.
pff what an absolute dream. Imagine owning such a car and being allowed/able to drive it on the roads at night or during the weekends. dreamssss
They made 2, 5L V8 versions for the ALMS series. 1 of these made it to Australia to race in the Bathurst 24hr race in 2004, owned by Maher Algadri. Was more recently sold at Auction a few years ago.
Hans Stuck driving this car is epic!
Honestly this engine would be 100% legal on the road considering the C8's engine is basically the same exact way to that of a racing V8 😂
I always imagined
That the nfs mw driver
Was a real race car driver
Some how he got bored or went rogue and left the racing life
And he started racing in street races plus how accurate the Bmw gtr was the build the sound
Love this game it is going
To be my favorite of all time
Have an interesting story but
Comment section isn't enough
If they ever comeback, I want to see that thing painted like most wanted :D
Actually, many exact replicas is available on the 2007 M3 chassis
0:39 that engine roaring just like nfsmw
It's quite literally the Most Wanted car now, uf ut wasn't before.
We should protest the BMW company to produce this beauty for the road.
Love these ❤ . Building 2 e36 GTR’s for racing so I’m a happy chappy 😇
most awaited video
07:31 This sound seems to take me back to my childhood...
It's a real shame this car never went to Le Mans.
nice retrospective! would be nice a video of p54 engine from wtcc .
Once I unlocked this in Gran Turismo 4, I was unstoppable lol.
Dumb af, in Greece we used to import M3 GTRs in parts then assembly the whole car when all the parts needed were in house. using street legal M3's body. Gotcha 😅😅😅
the typical sound which you can identify the gtr came from the straight toothed gearbox and not from the crankshaft
If i had enough money, i would ask directly to BMW to build one for me
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The aftersound of the engine is very stunning
NFS: MW gang
one of the most beautiful cars every made
will the BMW F1 turbo video return ? and if can you please tell when ?
Excellent! Always enjoy your videos. Thank you
Thanks for the video! This is The unobtainium. (For me at least.) Just give me the motor. I would figure out what to do with it. Might bankrupt me though.
Only OGs will remember the first thumbnail
0:05 i was att a car show few years back and they actually had one of the spare chassies for sale. it was the spare chassi for the car in 0:05 it had the exact same livery and all to. believe it never actually saw any racing so it was a fresh spare rolling chassi they never needed.
The p60b40 is probably the ONLY flat-plane crank I actually like.
the legendary car off all time this car is so controversial
this car engine is so rare or even you cannot buy one because this is the real dream car
They didn't dethrone Porsche though, Porsche are still murdering the Nurdburgring and other German tracks.
This car was n is still most wanted by fans i will buy one of these one day🔥♥️
One of the only Beemers i really love the look of.
It's one if the most wanted cars of all time
This car was my first and last crush ever ♥️
Those second set of rule changes happened after porsche complained that it was "against the spirit of the rules of le'mans."
If they made 100 of those, theyd go over the million mark at auctions and e.t.c easily, it was a super unique concept for bmw at the time.
Hang on.....i coulda sworn i seen E46 M3's still racing in the US until 2006 in grand am (the other side of what imsa became in the early 2010's) i think it was the GTR but still funny enough what actually killed the E46 was the pontiac GTO and the mazda RX-8 by pure virtue of them being faster and more agile than the aging M3
The GTO as in the Holden Monaro? They're great cars but "more agile" than an e46 is doubtful.
200 kg (440 lbs.) weight reduction is remarkable for a car this size.
bmw knows how to make fun cars
I'm a lucky z4 enjoyed, drifting around with this masterpiece almost every day
saw them all in bmw museum in munich 2 years ago for m department 50th anniversary
M3 GTR king ❤
for that price
buy an e46 car or just the chassis
swap/buy the engine for the better v8 on the e92 the s65
fab the firewall
buy a straight cut 6 speed dog clutch manual gearbox and a adapter plate too
find yourself a good body shop
get that e46 some spot-welding
fab a roll cage
double wishbone the front and the rear
get the GTR body kit
and side exhaust the bad boy
from there you may have some more to spare
To this day there's no one make the road going M3 GTR bumper. 4:40
It's one of the most wanted cars of all time
In my opinion, the first NFS Most Wanted (2005) did this car a real injustice by making it sound like an angry swarm of bees. Also sounded more like a Straight-6 than the actual P60 V8 that the GT-R variant came with. Still an awesome car, it was my absolute favorite in the game.
Edit: It was really hard to place the original engine noise to be fair. Couldn't quite put a determination on what it actually sounded like. Definitely wasn't the P60 though lol
It's the sound of a TVR Cerbera AJP V8 with racing gearbox whine added.
If only the CSL had this engine combined to a 6 speed. That would be a BMW’s top classic today.
I dislike BMW cars in general, but this is the one exception. What a machine.
Thanks again
The fact I just finished nfs mw 2005 is crazy (I didnt know it existed)
Also, it would have been awesome if the street version had the awesome enki racing rims that the race car had
Lots of race cars run Enkei rims because there’re light and cheap. The stock rims are way more practical for street use because they’re stronger and marginally heavier. CSL rims for the win!
But the ones that the m3 gtr had are discontinued
The race cars had centre lock magnesium BBS wheels that I don't think you could've bought at the time if you weren't BMW anyway. Even if you could they would be anything but cheap and nigh impossible to produce at production car scales. Plus that would've necessitated centre lock hubs for the street version which would've meant using the race car brake discs and calipers minimum with a one off master cylinder and biasing valve because you can't use racecar esque dual master cylinder setups on street cars.
Maybe the later ones used bbs’s, but the earlier ones used enki’s
Maybe the later ones used bbs’s, but the earlier ones used enki’s
That 4.0L V8 in the street car was super thirsty.
Every race motor is thirsty. They’re not Prius’.
@@pauloakes6952 Broad strokes satisfy some folks. Not me. Every "race motor" (whatever that is) is thirsty. Do we have to get into the details or no?
Bugatti Veyron has 18 minutes of fuel at full boost. Sounds fair
Less than 3 laps at the Nurburgring. Video games don't have fuel consumption or brake fade
There is a myth I love to believe, that BMW Motorsport has a EXACT Replica of NFS MW M3, with the same livery, in its Race-Spec in the Garage. And that it is still racing someday or another on Nürnburg Ring time to time.
Greatest BMW Engine 🏁
probably the most unique car
Thanks for a very informative video.
that m3 was an absolute menace
Ends up the E92 being the M3 GTR that BMW wants to sell to the public. Love the E92 too but this racing E46 is just epic as fuck ❤
Why it’s not a sequential gearbox?
Link for the clip you used at 2:05?
Well I actually made a video of the BMW M3 GTR being sold at YTG, the one in your thumbnail.
And if anyone wants to, they can watch the onboard 2004 videos in HQ on my channel.
BMW: *makes a masterpiece that can beat Porsche using a custom built engine not available to the public*
Porsche: *talks with FIA about the unfairness BMW is doing and cries until the rules are changed*
#anditookthatpersonally
Fuck porsche!
Mr good man, why you change the thumbnail??? 1st one is already good enough
and so many tried to replicate the MW05 GTR and always... always chose the wrong damn bodykit. The proper kit is the wider version of the Strassenversion, not a later iteration. Hence the black version has the Strassenversion included.
Andres iteration was probably the worst out of all. Theo (Blackpanthaa) might be able to pull it off, despite using a regular 3 series coupe and not an M3. At least the kit he chose looks actually the closest (for beeing a replica kit, the real Racing kits from BMW are biiiiiiiiiiiiiig ticket items). All other appearances in latter NFS games are just mere "wannabe kit-cars", not the proper deal and should never be accounted for.
Why do people care about the headlight washers so much for example? Using the halogen headlights saves weight over using Xenons and their ballasts. And afaik xenons werent even an option for the '99 MY of the E46, which the MW05 GTR is based off of.
Yeah, But unfortunately, bmw ultimately cancelled the bmw m3 gtr for the road, after the race version being banned from le mans for some reason
This was Porsche's move. The E46 chassis was ultimately pulled because of the stipulations that the P60 wasn't a fair move to race with and an S54 based platform would never see 24hrs. Things got legal and Porsche spent $12M making sure the GTR stayed in its grave.
@@Dgadude But why did porsche do that? Did bmw m3 gtr too op for race on le mans?
Yes the GTR was extremely capable and Porsche knew it from the beginning. The move to ban it was politically infused and heavily incentivized. It's considered one of the worst moves in sportsmanship of that time. I only know this because I work for BMW.
@@Dgadudeyeah, I remember a BMW advertisement poster making fun of Porsche when they banned the GTR from ALMS. That's cool that you worked for BMW, may I ask if you happen to know, was the decision to build the E9x M3 with a V8 made as a result of this debacle or was it before then?
@@Dgadude Yeah
I honestly still don't get why the BMW E3 was the one. I guess because NFSU1-2 walked so MW could run, and be the game at peak need for speed popularity.
There are a few cars from U1/U2 that I like much more than the more basic BMW.
What are you talking about? Bmw never made an appearance in the underground games.
@@Local_Player5101 How poor is your reading comprehension to have made it to that sentence after explicitly saying Underground walked so MW could run, when it came to the NFS popularity peak at that time, leading to the M3 taking over as the popular car.
BMW THE ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE
I think I’m the only one that prefers the low rumble sound from mw than the high pitch of the actual race car
The high-pitch is the straight-cut gears in the gearbox
The strait cut gears whine, the engine has a high pitch sound
Not the first time a company made a car just to be faster than another company's car at le man (the whole reason the gt40 exists lol)
Soon or Later.
Someone will Copy the Engine 1:1 and sell it for Engine Swaps on each E46 model.
BMW has made some great engines. I am no fan of their cars. They should rehire all of the Karmen people and resurect that business and let them build cars designed by Italian companies using thier better drivetrains. No linguine rod bearing engines need apply here. Just imagine what a beautiful machine they would have!