Hello Charlie, please could you help me to understand 17:20 your 4bet bluff with QJo from the button against 3bet from SB? Is that because SB also has a lot of 3bet bluffs like weak suited aces, some middle suited connectors and stuff like that? (or even someone else who is experienced grinder)
I have some questions about some of these spots, curious to see what people think (Tables numbered clockwise from Top left). Please upvote this and maybe Charlie will answer: 8:43 - Table 4 = Q9s - Is this not an open?? 10:37 - Table 2 = 72s in BB 3 way - are we really defending here multiway? Because it is likely to miss everyone else's range? As played, are we really calling off 3 bet jam with 7 high flush draw and backdoors? got there twice so YOLO 11:59 - Table 3 = When would you fire on this turn when checked to? 13:40 Table 4 = K4o on button?? Quite wide no? 14:02 - Table 1 - 44 in SB. On turn, can you consider leading? as played on river, can we bet less to get a call? 16:03 - Table 3 = 3 bet min raise with K7s - can you 3 bet this because the raise size is so small? 17:23 - Table 4 = 4 bet bluff with QJo. Thoughts on this? The player 3 bet quite fast, charlie has a look at some stats and 2.5x 4 bet back 17:23 - Table 3 = fires a 3 bet from SB with A8 suited and has to fold to 4 bet. why not just flat? cos you risk BB coming along too? 18:10 - table 3 = min raise open with 77 in HJ. why change the raise size?? 18:53 - table 4 = min bet on turn with AQo on 3453 after check check flop. Is this to induce a raise?? 19:50 - table 4 = again defends BB multiway with 72. this time for only 10c more getting 6/1 which makes more sense but still: we're told to defend tighter multiway so why 72?? balancing range?? I'll get to the rest later. Just some thoughts so far.
hey Charlie, very well played. btw what is with those 3 bets with A9s QJs from OOP? i want to see more of your style before considering to buy your products because you have been very lucky this session. flopped a lot of sets and get paid well with your overpairs. upload 2-3 sessions like this on NL10 and I will buy your products. cheers, Alex
@@uniquelolapps983 this is funny.. :D down 25k.. when his buyin is 10k.. it is like if you play 1c/2c cash games and you lost 4.50c in some point.. It does not matter if you have good bankroll.
@@profionorven2502 he is never up according to highstakes db. he can not beat high stakes and when you search his profile on internet you can see that he is losing money on tournaments aswell he as been just once lucky to win 1m and thats why he quit poker and start selling products "teaching poker"
its obvious that he could have a straights with the 7. but the opponent could have bigger straight and full houses aswell and the bet is overbet about 50% so his hand was just a bluff catcher. nice fold
it's a super profitable call with such great pot odds (he has a backdoor street draw as well) upd: according to equilab he has ~27% pot odds here. and he has to add 5.91 to win 20
@@df9918 Yeah it's a profitable call but he never should have raised there in the first place. Just folding to a cbet+2bet is the play with such a weak hand.
@@CharlieCarrel I rewatched it, you are totally right too. check flop bet turn and overbet river. This is where I would have said (a straight is too good to fold). And get shown the goods. Guess I know where to work on my game then :) Thanks!
Zoom cash is not the best to build the bankroll. Best/easiest to build the bankroll is probably to play classic cash games (non zoom tables) where you can focus on lacks of your opponents and you can turn your advantage(exploit them) into as high win rate as possible. However, Zoom cash is probably best way to learn, because you are going over tons and tons of hands in a short time, you need to make various decisions and also you are playing against various opponents.
Zoom is the best way to put in volume without having to 20 table or sth, but you should be very careful of not falling into the "abc autopilot" trap because of that. You still have to exploit all fish and weak regs to the max
@@vitmikulas2605 Zdravim :) Well I have to admit, that you are right. Also we cannot argue about this much, because there are too many factors that needs to be counted. Like: Is player able to manage downswings? Is player able to make correct decisions constantly? How long can he play? Because variance matters. And the bigger sample you have, the less variance should matter. Etc, etc. So yea, but even Charlie had downswings on 5 and 10NL in his previous Bankroll challenge, because you cannot play against 5NL and 10NL people like usually. Your bluff can be the best bluff ever and fish calling station on 5 or 10NL will call you down anyway. Also on a non-zoom table you have more tells and longer analyses how the player is playing, on zoom you are using your bet sizing mostly and partly his. So it's questionable a lot. I would say we both are right, just depends on the angle that you are looking at it.
Charlie, you say someone could learn by layering up their thought process, and mostly all decision start from preflop. Would a starting micro player want to watch the entire video by just seeing what cards you opened from what positions, and why you chose to do that? Then go further the next time through to iso raising? Then preflop calling, value vs. bluff cbetting, etc. on and on. Is that what you mean by layers?
At 39.00 hand bottom right (river bluff). Can you explain the decision to go for turn c/r and river bluff? Surely player is likely to have TJ, TQ, JQ, and call/call is totally fine? Going ham to fold out KT, KJ, KQ is just nuts!! Do they really fold KT/KJ/KQ often enough on river here? Its almost as if your turn c/r is both a value raise AND bluff raise. Love it
lets go Charles! Although I do believe that this is challenge is a waste of time. The average poker player will never make it from 0 to 10k playing online poker. It is way too difficult and time consuming. I consider myself as a case study, I played everyday for like around 2 weeks (average 8 hours a day) and got it to 300 dollars then lost it all due to variance and some tilt.
Yeah by definition an average player should lose due to rake. And the only people who should win are those who are better than other players by more than the % rake
now i know what i have to do in my next session: have AA vs KK on dry boards. set over set people 200bb deep hit set in multiway 3bet pots with dry run outs vs 2 guys with premium overs run good in 3bet pots in general :D
you need to understand that everything you do at the poker table conveys information......ya cant be all loosey goosey,having a sandwich or checking your phone....
21:37 3b 33 vs co, is low freq with smaller pairs for you? seems like at this point in sesh you play was flowing, momentum building.. getting a lil frisky? gogogo charlie , the epiphany hype in chat 10nl streets is funzies
I agree, but I don't think people are very informative when they do the $100 to $10k challenges. I think this gap in the market needs to be filled first. Then I'll go to $100k. Then to 1mil. Then... we take over the world.
Charlie how can you label this a bankroll challenge video, You ended the last one with $200 roughly and at the start of this video you have $8100 in your account. And you didn't stream it clearly just pushing your masterclass It's really disappointing to see you not being genuine I thought you were better than this.
Great content... some feedback. Your audio is low and very echo-y. If you can fix that somehow it would up the level of your videos a ton. This was particularly bad in your training sessions with the girl (forget her name). I could barely hear her. Hope any of that helps.
At first it was 100 to take part and 150$ to have the record as well. I supposed it has had great sucess so the price went up ! It s still pretty good, even for higher stakes I suppose
I would think thats a call, but his bet on the turn and then overbet on the river just makes it look like he has the nuts, im not sure, Charlie will have to explain his thought process behind this.
@@andthereisntone3454 There's spots everywhere. Mostly spots where he's not adjusting hes plays enough against the fish. Same openraise size/value bet sizings. Not playing enough against the fish. He does talk about it but he's not doing it nearly enough.
20:20 snap fold bottom right corner with the weak straight, is that not something you consider calling?/ call
My theory is that he did not see the straight. The fold makes no sense to me
Hello Charlie, please could you help me to understand 17:20 your 4bet bluff with QJo from the button against 3bet from SB? Is that because SB also has a lot of 3bet bluffs like weak suited aces, some middle suited connectors and stuff like that?
(or even someone else who is experienced grinder)
I also saw this and was curious. See my post from today, I picked out a few spots I wanted answers to
At 20:20 on the bottom right table, Charlie folded a straight. Can anyone explain why, I can't figure it out?
who knows
Probably just putting him on A boat, as the hand played
Probably has a read on player - who would check back a straight in this spot and only bet a full house - or he mis clicked.
I have some questions about some of these spots, curious to see what people think (Tables numbered clockwise from Top left). Please upvote this and maybe Charlie will answer:
8:43 - Table 4 = Q9s - Is this not an open??
10:37 - Table 2 = 72s in BB 3 way - are we really defending here multiway? Because it is likely to miss everyone else's range? As played, are we really calling off 3 bet jam with 7 high flush draw and backdoors? got there twice so YOLO
11:59 - Table 3 = When would you fire on this turn when checked to?
13:40 Table 4 = K4o on button?? Quite wide no?
14:02 - Table 1 - 44 in SB. On turn, can you consider leading? as played on river, can we bet less to get a call?
16:03 - Table 3 = 3 bet min raise with K7s - can you 3 bet this because the raise size is so small?
17:23 - Table 4 = 4 bet bluff with QJo. Thoughts on this? The player 3 bet quite fast, charlie has a look at some stats and 2.5x 4 bet back
17:23 - Table 3 = fires a 3 bet from SB with A8 suited and has to fold to 4 bet. why not just flat? cos you risk BB coming along too?
18:10 - table 3 = min raise open with 77 in HJ. why change the raise size??
18:53 - table 4 = min bet on turn with AQo on 3453 after check check flop. Is this to induce a raise??
19:50 - table 4 = again defends BB multiway with 72. this time for only 10c more getting 6/1 which makes more sense but still: we're told to defend tighter multiway so why 72?? balancing range??
I'll get to the rest later. Just some thoughts so far.
Yay!!! Young Charlie the crusher's back! Fascinating stuff, buddy. Highly appreciated.
You got that yes theory outfit, nice dude!!
Planning on offering a collab with them soon for my charity ❤ They are so brilliant
Yeah they are!! Hope they will accept :)
monster !!! i can't believe this
keep crushing
Delighted to see this back. Thanks very much, Charlie! Subbed.
Nice free content! You are awesome :) Keep it up with the good work
hey Charlie,
very well played.
btw what is with those 3 bets with A9s QJs from OOP?
i want to see more of your style before considering to buy your products because you have been very lucky this session. flopped a lot of sets and get paid well with your overpairs.
upload 2-3 sessions like this on NL10 and I will buy your products.
cheers, Alex
@@uniquelolapps983 this is funny.. :D down 25k.. when his buyin is 10k.. it is like if you play 1c/2c cash games and you lost 4.50c in some point.. It does not matter if you have good bankroll.
@@profionorven2502 he is never up according to highstakes db. he can not beat high stakes and when you search his profile on internet you can see that he is losing money on tournaments aswell he as been just once lucky to win 1m and thats why he quit poker and start selling products "teaching poker"
Thanks Charlie, would love some commentary on some of these hands! Nice little session :)
Yea Charlie, would be more then awesome if you could break down this session any later, because I saw there many hands worthy of discussion. :)
At 9.45, you checked the turn without continuation betting. Any reason why? Top right with Aces btw! Thanks :)
20.21 bottom right table / snap fold straight ? was that a mistake or what ?
Curious too
its obvious that he could have a straights with the 7. but the opponent could have bigger straight and full houses aswell and the bet is overbet about 50% so his hand was just a bluff catcher. nice fold
43:38 The joy when you hit the set on the flop ❤️
Thanks a lot Charlie! Very valuable content. Cheers!
great content as usual. Just watched top left table. 3 more times vids to watch, yeeeees
There are some sick hands in there! I´d definitely love to hear your thought process! : P
Hey Man, thanks a lot, this kind of content is Gold, you're the best!
at 10:57 why are you stacking off 7h fd here?
it's a super profitable call with such great pot odds (he has a backdoor street draw as well)
upd:
according to equilab he has ~27% pot odds here. and he has to add 5.91 to win 20
@@df9918 Yeah it's a profitable call but he never should have raised there in the first place. Just folding to a cbet+2bet is the play with such a weak hand.
@@Yerr1337 lol. so you're implying that you understand how to play poker better than Charlie? I now understand why he hates GTO so much...
@@df9918 I'm saying he made a huge mistake and i can tell you any good reg would agree. And what i've seen him play he's not as good as i thought.
the read is prolly that people raise fold/call fold turn too much at 10 nl zoom in multi way, which is a bold idea for sure.
Very excited for the series!
When will the site be ready?
Why are you folding @ 20:20 with the straight? Does he really always have a boat here?
Yeah pretty much. People don't overbet bluff into uncapped ranges :)
@@CharlieCarrel I rewatched it, you are totally right too. check flop bet turn and overbet river. This is where I would have said (a straight is too good to fold). And get shown the goods. Guess I know where to work on my game then :) Thanks!
Great video 🤟🤟
Charlie, zoom cash is the best to build a bankroll in your opinion?
Zoom cash is not the best to build the bankroll. Best/easiest to build the bankroll is probably to play classic cash games (non zoom tables) where you can focus on lacks of your opponents and you can turn your advantage(exploit them) into as high win rate as possible. However, Zoom cash is probably best way to learn, because you are going over tons and tons of hands in a short time, you need to make various decisions and also you are playing against various opponents.
Zoom is the best way to put in volume without having to 20 table or sth, but you should be very careful of not falling into the "abc autopilot" trap because of that. You still have to exploit all fish and weak regs to the max
@@vitmikulas2605 Zdravim :) Well I have to admit, that you are right. Also we cannot argue about this much, because there are too many factors that needs to be counted.
Like:
Is player able to manage downswings?
Is player able to make correct decisions constantly?
How long can he play? Because variance matters. And the bigger sample you have, the less variance should matter. Etc, etc. So yea, but even Charlie had downswings on 5 and 10NL in his previous Bankroll challenge, because you cannot play against 5NL and 10NL people like usually. Your bluff can be the best bluff ever and fish calling station on 5 or 10NL will call you down anyway.
Also on a non-zoom table you have more tells and longer analyses how the player is playing, on zoom you are using your bet sizing mostly and partly his. So it's questionable a lot. I would say we both are right, just depends on the angle that you are looking at it.
Charlie, what do you consider a decent bb/100 to move up in stakes with confidence?
Thank you very much for this great content!!! I appretiate your efford.
Best regards from Austria!
Best part is 26.45, bottom right table. Player bets 10c into a $1.42 pot, Charlie insta tags as fish and raises pot hahahah
About 11 min I'm not sure about the play with 27s, can you explain?
man you are amazing!
Charlie, you say someone could learn by layering up their thought process, and mostly all decision start from preflop. Would a starting micro player want to watch the entire video by just seeing what cards you opened from what positions, and why you chose to do that? Then go further the next time through to iso raising? Then preflop calling, value vs. bluff cbetting, etc. on and on. Is that what you mean by layers?
Yeah, exactly :) It gets very complex to describe all the different layers once you get past that, but those would be a good first few.
Yea man, game tree and shit. I'll see if I can find some pointed questions to ask!
Nice to see you again Charlie
At 39.00 hand bottom right (river bluff). Can you explain the decision to go for turn c/r and river bluff? Surely player is likely to have TJ, TQ, JQ, and call/call is totally fine? Going ham to fold out KT, KJ, KQ is just nuts!! Do they really fold KT/KJ/KQ often enough on river here? Its almost as if your turn c/r is both a value raise AND bluff raise. Love it
lets go Charles! Although I do believe that this is challenge is a waste of time. The average poker player will never make it from 0 to 10k playing online poker. It is way too difficult and time consuming. I consider myself as a case study, I played everyday for like around 2 weeks (average 8 hours a day) and got it to 300 dollars then lost it all due to variance and some tilt.
@james baker oh, excuse me durrrr
Yeah, most people won't make it. Which is good, because the people who do make it will have had to work hard for it.
Yeah by definition an average player should lose due to rake. And the only people who should win are those who are better than other players by more than the % rake
Yeah! You´re back! : D
Hey charlie, would you say the strategies you teach in your masterclass are also applicable towards anonymous zoom pools?
Yeah 100%
now i know what i have to do in my next session:
have AA vs KK on dry boards.
set over set people 200bb deep
hit set in multiway 3bet pots with dry run outs vs 2 guys with premium overs
run good in 3bet pots in general
:D
💜 thank you ! Watching now
SEEKDISCOMFORT! I love it
you need to understand that everything you do at the poker table conveys information......ya cant be all loosey goosey,having a sandwich or checking your phone....
you fold streat on 20:20 wtf
21:37 3b 33 vs co, is low freq with smaller pairs for you? seems like at this point in sesh you play was flowing, momentum building.. getting a lil frisky? gogogo charlie , the epiphany hype in chat 10nl streets is funzies
It's a three bet bluff. You don't always need to have it to make somebody fold :)
Sadly this time it didn't work + flop was just horrible.
the aces raise at river HURT my eyers 10 :17
you cant beat the NL10 i guess.. cancel this challenge.
The first 4 seconds are HOT, congratz to whoever made your intro !
Thx for the amazing free content! Where does your chair come from?
What resources have you used over the years to reach this level of poker?
Thank you Charlie Woo.
You the man!
Want continuation !!!!! please :D
Charlie....better do a 10.000 to 100.000K challenge....to 10.000 has been done to many Times by too many people m8 😊☺
I agree, but I don't think people are very informative when they do the $100 to $10k challenges. I think this gap in the market needs to be filled first.
Then I'll go to $100k. Then to 1mil. Then... we take over the world.
@@CharlieCarrel love it m8 😊😊😊😊😊
@@CharlieCarrel Or a $1 to $1 million - you could be the first, Charlie! ;)
can you explain in the next video why you non maximum ev run it twice?
no sound when you start playing...
yoyoyo hello, thanks for video
thanks u legend
YES YES YES
Charlie how can you label this a bankroll challenge video, You ended the last one with $200 roughly and at the start of this video you have $8100 in your account. And you didn't stream it clearly just pushing your masterclass It's really disappointing to see you not being genuine I thought you were better than this.
You thought wrong.
Great content... some feedback. Your audio is low and very echo-y. If you can fix that somehow it would up the level of your videos a ton. This was particularly bad in your training sessions with the girl (forget her name). I could barely hear her. Hope any of that helps.
13:10 btn folds to min 4bet...
Ily m8 have a nice day
$250 ? That seems a bit steep for only upto 25nl
At first it was 100 to take part and 150$ to have the record as well. I supposed it has had great sucess so the price went up ! It s still pretty good, even for higher stakes I suppose
I think $100 is fair. $250 to a 10nl player is basically there roll. Even to a 25nl player that’s 10 buy ins.
Nice!
did he say he's made billions of dollars or am i losing it?
34:31 tanking 99lvl
Do you edit your own vids charlie? i love what you do! big ups!! Can i suggest an edit?
much love hit me up¬!11
All suggestions welcome :)
playing 27s, gets a straight then fold 20:17
I would think thats a call, but his bet on the turn and then overbet on the river just makes it look like he has the nuts, im not sure, Charlie will have to explain his thought process behind this.
try to beat polk, u got 2 years ! xD
There's a fly on your forehead
Did you say billionaire or did I missheard??? No way any human made a billion with poker.
Playing way too gto against the fish. Missing so many massive exploits.
Care to show any examples, with timestamps? Thanks.
@@andthereisntone3454 There's spots everywhere. Mostly spots where he's not adjusting hes plays enough against the fish. Same openraise size/value bet sizings. Not playing enough against the fish. He does talk about it but he's not doing it nearly enough.
@@andthereisntone3454 And that's why his challenge will take forever.
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Dude, the video didnt get good. Difficulte to see. Be carefull next time
Like your old hair better ☹