Thanks for the video. I bought a second pair of these a few months ago as a backup and just opened it up. I noticed the change in microphone and no bag and thought it might have been a knock-off.
I've had the hyperx cloud alpha and bought the Hyperx Cloud 2 HP version and played CS:GO and i must admit the way i heard steps really gave me an advantage, so if you guys want to use this headset for FPS games it's really, really good!
ive been needing someone to tell me the difference in sounds. Like the alpha for me doesn't pick up higher frequencies well unless it goes static like. Does the cloud 2 do the same or does it sound better?? what about mic on discord or smth
@@user-zn2se3ep5hare you fr? cuz i just bought the cloud 3s but id be reading everywhere that the alphas are better, so i wanted to return em and buy the alphas i play fps games mostly
I just ordered 1 from amazon. It says it's the Kingston model but some comments say that they received the HP one. I was thinking about refunding or not if HP model comes but after watching this video I'll be happy with either one. Thx for the video man.
@@OzFOO Pretty good. My brother has the kingston model, I have the hp. They are both the same tbh. I've been using it without any problem. Comfy, cuts the outside sounds. If you have a loud pc it's perfect for it.
Pff thank you so much have been worried after seeing indeed lately complaints on reddit about the HP one after mine just came in and almost thinking about sending them back while cant twst both of them
Mine say Kingston inside the headband and on the cable module, but have all the aesthetic changes of the red HP in the video. Purchased Jan 2022 from Amazon Oh and the packaging of the Kingston, but without the mesh bag
sound quality is the same. but i heard the kingston one's lasted for 3-5 years easily, the hp one's get loose after 6 months for me. feels like the joints are gonna get loose and break off anytime. the build quality seems flimsy to me that's the only noticeable change for me. for me its a bummer i thought it would last long time. now i know it won't last more than 2 years
Unless someone is providing real data to backup claims that the Kingston models lasted several years its meaningless. As this video shows the old one was just as flimsy.
I have the version of the headset with the hp design but made by kingston as the serial is not embedded with the hp mark and the sound card has the kingston logo in the back (i think what i have is the revision version that was made when kingston was still around then hp came and ) im planning to find an older version of the headset because i can't really get a better sound quality headphones since most of them are over my budget and i have heard that the hp version sound a bit worse
got the hp ones, the plastic on both sides already teared on the exact same spot (the plastic belt buckles where the cables come out). now i cannot adjust the headband anymore. its biggest setting basicly. Gotta love cheap plastic.
01:02 The plastic has broken on one side and the metal cup fork fell out, i had to piece things back together with strapping tape (clear with fibers). When removing them i used to grab one cup and kind of roll them off my head and place on a hanger, apparently this was too much stress for the soft plastic. The fact that people are 3D printing replacements says it all, i use but do not abuse my equipment. Now i have to very gently grab both cups to remove. Mine are the kingston version, i have had then for almost one year. The rough gaudy blue 3D replacement parts are not happening so i have to go with a used set for parts, can i get parts from HyperX ?
@@Extreme96PL Yes the plastic is very soft, i ended up finding black 3D printed parts from a Vasiliy G guy in Vegas that sells on a popular craft makers site i apparently can't mention here (my previous comment was removed). So far all is good, the parts are much stronger.
This. Plastic parts in a new ones are way worse: sides, sound card clamp, headband - they just basically falling apart by itself, now when it's been almost two years and warranty on majority of new HP units are expired, you can find a boatload of photos from users with cracked and broken parts. Had to cancel my order when I found out that this is HP model, price and discount was so good tho (I'd say suspiciously good, like they're trying to get rid of HP units as much as possible)... Shame. My older HyperX devices are still good as new no matter how old they are.
@@loganmedia4401 No idea, but there are facts: HP usually means overpriced garbage, and you can find a discouraging number of reviews with the same issues about HP marked Clouds. On photos you can see that plastic and earcups surface are definitely different, which isn't just different build quality, but different sound quality as for closed-type headphones. Some marketplaces even started to mark it as "HP" or "2022" or something to avoid confusion and criticism.
Brother help me I have just bought hyperx cloud 2 (HP one) and they sound great to me but I have a question there are soo many videos comparing the two variants HP and Kingston Some say HP are not good and Kingston are much better and some say both are the some. What should I do now??? Should I return them and buy KIngston version?
@@Proxima-62f They're great in fps games like Valorant and CS GO I can easily locate enemies by hearing gunshots and footsteps. They are also awesome in hearing music the sound is crystal clear and Bass is just perfect.
as someone who's used the Kingston HyperX 2s since around release and just switching to the new HP HyperX Cloud 2s (old ones broke), I can say I could instantly tell that they were different. I found the new version has more of a hallow sound while gaming and less bass.
I agree. I instantly noticed the difference in the sound quality. The kingston model has much clearer and accurate sound. I returned the HP one and stuck with the already falling apart kingston one
@@DrathanKhan Those reviewers are trying to be objective. What's really funny is that there are users complaining the newer version has less bass and other users complaining they have more.
I cant decide which one should i get between cloud alpha wireless or cloud2 wired. i want the wireless so bad but they said wireless is bad in fps games? is it true?
Its not bad but the wired version of any headset gonna be better in fps games cuz there is a little delay when you connect your headset by bluetooth so the wired you hear the sound a little faster then a wireless but if you a casual gamer a wireless is better for you
If you get a wireless headset for fps gaming dont get something over bluetooth (especially if you also want to use the mic), the compression and the delay will give you a big disadvantage (been there, that's why I'm looking at buying a simple headset now)
The HP model, the DAC is inferior, the audio is lower, the speakers emit lower audio quality, it has shitty bass, in addition to the housing and construction being of inferior quality. You did the microphone test using the HP model's DAC, the Kingston model's DAC lights up the name in red, so the microphone's audio was bad.
If you're a content creator already making money and you want an end-game mic you'll never have to upgrade from then yes. Or if you're someone recording professional vocals for podcasts/audio books, yes. But for 99% of people no. I think it's better to get a cheaper mic, EQ it, and add whatever other post processing or real-time processing filters you need.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews I have the Razer Seiren Elite and I find the Noise Floor quite annoying... I don't know what to do. I've tried EQ, compression, noise gate, etc., but the Noise Floor always happens to be there.
@@krecibros265 I agree, had the same mic, same issues. Though SteelSeries Sonar mostly eliminated the noise floor for me. You don't need go all the way up to the SM7B. A Samson Q2U ($60-70) with EQ and a very minor noise reduction filter is enough. I currently use the Shure MV7, but it's really just because since I spent so much $ to compare it, I might as well use it for show.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Thanks! I'll try it. On the mic itself (Razer Seiren Elite), do you turn the gain knob to the max or minimum, or somewhere in the middle?
There are 3 versions, Kingston with the brushed finish and rubber ear cup, there is a newer Kingston version with a plastic ear cup, and there’s an hp version which is also plastic.
@@markomihailovic3020from what I’ve heard there’s no difference between any of the three. The one with rubber on it is only a cosmetic thing, if you open up the ear cup of the rubber one the inside of the housing where the driver is located is still plastic.
@@TyrannosaurusTim I ended up ordering ps4 version with rubber cups. Maby in the future i will compare them with the hp version to see if there is any diference in sound quality.
I've had both and the build quality, sound, and the mic on the HP were not as good IN MY OPINION (tested plugged into a dedicated sound card, not the USB). The headband adjustment was really loose on the HP compared to my old Kingston's. The sound was a little "tinnier" and same goes for the mic. I ended up returning the HP pair and hunting down a new old stock Kingston pair on eBay to replace my original Kingston pair. Just my personal experience. Any who, always love your content. My most trusted reviewer when it comes to headsets and webcams.
It's been discontinued, so you have to get lucky that a physical store still has the old ones available (you can tell by the box). Online, you'll almost always get the new model now. But it does work on PS5 with the mic.
What are the serious changes? Nothing serious was highlighted in this video other than aesthetics and the mic port (both of which I would consider minor)
It is normal to experience some variation in the sound quality of a new headset compared to your previous one. This is because different models have different specifications and features that affect the audio output. To adjust to the new headset, its recommended that its used regularly for at least a week and then evaluate the sound difference. This will help you to appreciate the benefits of your new headset and enjoy its optimal performance.
ever since HP started making these i've noticed massive amounts of quality control issues, i've gone through about 4 of these headsets in a year from cracks everywhere in the plastic, with my old Kingston ones lasting me several years before the wire eventually giving up. It's honestly really as as they were really unmatched in my opinion when it comes to price, comfort and performance but now its a useless piece of plastic
I've had both I think the HP ones are far worse, build quality and the materials they used negatively impacted the sound quality too. I returned the HP ones, Im still using my Kingston Cloud 2s
Hey I got a problem my usb control box 7.1 surround thingy is broken and I can't use my mic now How do i fix this or where can I get a replacement or something else thats competible ? please help
theres actually 3 cloud ii models, HP, new Kingston Hyperx and original HyperX I own the new Kingston cloud II and its very similar to the new HP cloud II. the original Cloud II has way better build quality than my current Kingston Cloud II
@@denisrobin2380 yea i enjoy them i do notice only a little difference between the new Kingston and the HP i use the HP at Work since we use those Cloud II's and i have my Kingston at home the new Kingston does have better design not as good as the old one from the looks but its minimal and the Audio difference to the HP isn't massive the Mic seems a little worse tho
@@denisrobin2380 i wouldn't switch them for now since i love using the Hyper X Cloud II's can't find any alternatives that would suit me and im not a audiophile i do have a desk mic with stand tho since the Cloud II is basically just good for like work meetings not for my gaming needs it does work but its like bare minimum
@@amisauto4360 I just got a new cloud 2 to replace my old Kingston set as they are getting pretty tired. I instantly noticed the build quality being a bit different, but not bad, the sound itself is the same for me so far.
those soft touch plastics at the end of the headband might have a crack on them for you in 2 years my hp model ones are fully obliverated. i hvent misstreated the headset, its just cheap plastic.
When I was young, I had headphones by HP... probably the worst headphones with comfort, quality, sound and mic :D Cloud 3 for 110 € in my country just no, thanks. You can buy Cloud 2 or Alpha and you will be fine with better mic.
The plastic on the new one is easier to clean and doesn't degrade like that awful soft touch material.
Thanks for the video. I bought a second pair of these a few months ago as a backup and just opened it up. I noticed the change in microphone and no bag and thought it might have been a knock-off.
I've had the hyperx cloud alpha and bought the Hyperx Cloud 2 HP version and played CS:GO and i must admit the way i heard steps really gave me an advantage, so if you guys want to use this headset for FPS games it's really, really good!
ive been needing someone to tell me the difference in sounds. Like the alpha for me doesn't pick up higher frequencies well unless it goes static like. Does the cloud 2 do the same or does it sound better?? what about mic on discord or smth
@@vere2250watch the older vid, where he made a comparison between hyperx cloud 2 and alpha and alpha s
@@vere2250I just bought the alphas but are gonna return them and buy cloud 2s did anyone experience mic echo with the alphas cause I am
Get the Cloud 3. Alpha only sounds better in music. Unless You have a good EQ.
@@user-zn2se3ep5hare you fr? cuz i just bought the cloud 3s but id be reading everywhere that the alphas are better, so i wanted to return em and buy the alphas
i play fps games mostly
I just ordered 1 from amazon. It says it's the Kingston model but some comments say that they received the HP one. I was thinking about refunding or not if HP model comes but after watching this video I'll be happy with either one. Thx for the video man.
Hey how’s it been so far? I am going to get the same ones and was wondering what you thought. Please give me a fully honest answer
@@OzFOO Pretty good. My brother has the kingston model, I have the hp. They are both the same tbh. I've been using it without any problem. Comfy, cuts the outside sounds. If you have a loud pc it's perfect for it.
@@DrathanKhanis it good for competitive fps gaming like valorant??
@@equiknox_ yup
Pff thank you so much have been worried after seeing indeed lately complaints on reddit about the HP one after mine just came in and almost thinking about sending them back while cant twst both of them
How was it?? Is the hp model good for competitive fps gaming?
Mine say Kingston inside the headband and on the cable module, but have all the aesthetic changes of the red HP in the video. Purchased Jan 2022 from Amazon
Oh and the packaging of the Kingston, but without the mesh bag
Thank you for the review on the Cloud 3 on your website!
Your reviews are the best detailed!
sound quality is the same. but i heard the kingston one's lasted for 3-5 years easily, the hp one's get loose after 6 months for me. feels like the joints are gonna get loose and break off anytime. the build quality seems flimsy to me that's the only noticeable change for me. for me its a bummer i thought it would last long time. now i know it won't last more than 2 years
Unless someone is providing real data to backup claims that the Kingston models lasted several years its meaningless. As this video shows the old one was just as flimsy.
how have they held up since you wrote this?
@@sazaislin its getting worse. i have to use tape just to keep the plastic hinges together
I have the version of the headset with the hp design but made by kingston as the serial is not embedded with the hp mark and the sound card has the kingston logo in the back (i think what i have is the revision version that was made when kingston was still around then hp came and ) im planning to find an older version of the headset because i can't really get a better sound quality headphones since most of them are over my budget and i have heard that the hp version sound a bit worse
got the hp ones, the plastic on both sides already teared on the exact same spot (the plastic belt buckles where the cables come out). now i cannot adjust the headband anymore. its biggest setting basicly. Gotta love cheap plastic.
01:02
The plastic has broken on one side and the metal cup fork fell out, i had to piece things back together with strapping tape (clear with fibers).
When removing them i used to grab one cup and kind of roll them off my head and place on a hanger, apparently this was too much stress for the soft plastic.
The fact that people are 3D printing replacements says it all, i use but do not abuse my equipment.
Now i have to very gently grab both cups to remove.
Mine are the kingston version, i have had then for almost one year.
The rough gaudy blue 3D replacement parts are not happening so i have to go with a used set for parts, can i get parts from HyperX ?
So these hinges also break in the Kingston version? Because others keep saying that these hinges only break in the HP version.
@@Extreme96PL Yes the plastic is very soft, i ended up finding black 3D printed parts from a Vasiliy G guy in Vegas that sells on a popular craft makers site i apparently can't mention here (my previous comment was removed).
So far all is good, the parts are much stronger.
This. Plastic parts in a new ones are way worse: sides, sound card clamp, headband - they just basically falling apart by itself, now when it's been almost two years and warranty on majority of new HP units are expired, you can find a boatload of photos from users with cracked and broken parts. Had to cancel my order when I found out that this is HP model, price and discount was so good tho (I'd say suspiciously good, like they're trying to get rid of HP units as much as possible)... Shame. My older HyperX devices are still good as new no matter how old they are.
@@J0rdan912 So what are the percentages for the two versions? That's evidence we want to see for the newer version using lower quality plastic.
@@loganmedia4401 No idea, but there are facts: HP usually means overpriced garbage, and you can find a discouraging number of reviews with the same issues about HP marked Clouds. On photos you can see that plastic and earcups surface are definitely different, which isn't just different build quality, but different sound quality as for closed-type headphones. Some marketplaces even started to mark it as "HP" or "2022" or something to avoid confusion and criticism.
Do the Cloud Alphas have better drivers compared to the Cloud 2s?
yes but they don't get as loud
I have a version of the helmet where the brand name is embroidered, i think there is 2 models even for the kingston lol
@sokmok72 nice, are you in eu ?
@@filbgyibcfyjechik3612 yeah
2024 HP cloud 2 or Razer Blackshark v2 ? thanks
HP Cloud 2.
Brother help me I have just bought hyperx cloud 2 (HP one) and they sound great to me but I have a question there are soo many videos comparing the two variants HP and Kingston Some say HP are not good and Kingston are much better and some say both are the some. What should I do now??? Should I return them and buy KIngston version?
How is the sound of the HP model for competitive games, listening to music and watching movies. Can You Tell.
The plastic of the Hp model is sturdy. how does it feel to see you.
@@Proxima-62f They're great in fps games like Valorant and CS GO I can easily locate enemies by hearing gunshots and footsteps. They are also awesome in hearing music the sound is crystal clear and Bass is just perfect.
@@Proxima-62f Yeah it feels really durable.
they sound great becouse its literally the same as kingston.
Can you tell me the length of the cable on the HP model ? I think it's only
1 meter but I'm not sure.
as someone who's used the Kingston HyperX 2s since around release and just switching to the new HP HyperX Cloud 2s (old ones broke), I can say I could instantly tell that they were different. I found the new version has more of a hallow sound while gaming and less bass.
I agree. I instantly noticed the difference in the sound quality. The kingston model has much clearer and accurate sound. I returned the HP one and stuck with the already falling apart kingston one
@@kruuked my right side gave out unfortunately so I can't :( just got some astro a40s tho
They have the same sound card and drivers. How are they so different. And youtubers are saying they are almost exactly the same after long testing.
@@DrathanKhan Those reviewers are trying to be objective. What's really funny is that there are users complaining the newer version has less bass and other users complaining they have more.
@@loganmedia4401 My bro have the kingston one, I have the HP one. Both good.
I cant decide which one should i get between cloud alpha wireless or cloud2 wired. i want the wireless so bad but they said wireless is bad in fps games? is it true?
Its not bad but the wired version of any headset gonna be better in fps games cuz there is a little delay when you connect your headset by bluetooth so the wired you hear the sound a little faster then a wireless but if you a casual gamer a wireless is better for you
If you get a wireless headset for fps gaming dont get something over bluetooth (especially if you also want to use the mic), the compression and the delay will give you a big disadvantage (been there, that's why I'm looking at buying a simple headset now)
bro my hyperx plastic casing broke off what do i do then?
Is there a difference between the HP version of hyperx cloud 2 wireless and the kingston one?
The HP model, the DAC is inferior, the audio is lower, the speakers emit lower audio quality, it has shitty bass, in addition to the housing and construction being of inferior quality.
You did the microphone test using the HP model's DAC, the Kingston model's DAC lights up the name in red, so the microphone's audio was bad.
Where is the DAC in use visible during the test?
Honestly, is the SHURE SM7B worth it? (Sorry it's not related)
If you're a content creator already making money and you want an end-game mic you'll never have to upgrade from then yes. Or if you're someone recording professional vocals for podcasts/audio books, yes.
But for 99% of people no. I think it's better to get a cheaper mic, EQ it, and add whatever other post processing or real-time processing filters you need.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews I have the Razer Seiren Elite and I find the Noise Floor quite annoying...
I don't know what to do. I've tried EQ, compression, noise gate, etc., but the Noise Floor always happens to be there.
@@krecibros265 I agree, had the same mic, same issues. Though SteelSeries Sonar mostly eliminated the noise floor for me.
You don't need go all the way up to the SM7B. A Samson Q2U ($60-70) with EQ and a very minor noise reduction filter is enough. I currently use the Shure MV7, but it's really just because since I spent so much $ to compare it, I might as well use it for show.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Thanks! I'll try it.
On the mic itself (Razer Seiren Elite), do you turn the gain knob to the max or minimum, or somewhere in the middle?
2024 HP cloud 2 or Razer Blackshark v2 X ? thanks ^^
Bought Cloud Alpha and Alpha S after the regular alpha headband clasps cracked and snapped off, the same thing happen to the alpha s
There are 3 versions, Kingston with the brushed finish and rubber ear cup, there is a newer Kingston version with a plastic ear cup, and there’s an hp version which is also plastic.
yes, i am thinking the same, is there a diference between plastic and ruber kingstons ?
*edit
in sound quality ?
@@markomihailovic3020from what I’ve heard there’s no difference between any of the three. The one with rubber on it is only a cosmetic thing, if you open up the ear cup of the rubber one the inside of the housing where the driver is located is still plastic.
@@TyrannosaurusTim I ended up ordering ps4 version with rubber cups. Maby in the future i will compare them with the hp version to see if there is any diference in sound quality.
how i know HP and Kingston in market ?
How can I get Kingston verse?
It's been discontinued, so you have to either look for a store with the old ones still on display or get it used.
The new cloud 2 vs cloud alpha s vs cloud 3? For only valorant gaming. Whiu headset is best for directional audio? Thank you
I think Cloud 3 is the Best choice. Cloud 2 is better than Alpha. Alpha only sounds better in music.
@@user-zn2se3ep5h yes i got the cloud 3 hehe
I've had both and the build quality, sound, and the mic on the HP were not as good IN MY OPINION (tested plugged into a dedicated sound card, not the USB). The headband adjustment was really loose on the HP compared to my old Kingston's. The sound was a little "tinnier" and same goes for the mic. I ended up returning the HP pair and hunting down a new old stock Kingston pair on eBay to replace my original Kingston pair. Just my personal experience. Any who, always love your content. My most trusted reviewer when it comes to headsets and webcams.
Its all subjective, I have heard the opposite the HP mic is better.
@@freebolt5913 No, the HP microphone is not better than the Kingston version!
Where can i buy a kingston version and can i use it for my ps5? With the microphone
It's been discontinued, so you have to get lucky that a physical store still has the old ones available (you can tell by the box). Online, you'll almost always get the new model now.
But it does work on PS5 with the mic.
Which box is hps box?
Awesome review, really important because there really are some serious changes made by HP, many don't know about that.
What are the serious changes? Nothing serious was highlighted in this video other than aesthetics and the mic port (both of which I would consider minor)
It is normal to experience some variation in the sound quality of a new headset compared to your previous one. This is because different models have different specifications and features that affect the audio output. To adjust to the new headset, its recommended that its used regularly for at least a week and then evaluate the sound difference. This will help you to appreciate the benefits of your new headset and enjoy its optimal performance.
i hate the HP on the hard plastic like its been 1 month and it cracked, i put epoxy and tapes in there
HP profit-maximized the shit out of it.. as usual.
Did they though?
thanks i was waiting this video !
ever since HP started making these i've noticed massive amounts of quality control issues, i've gone through about 4 of these headsets in a year from cracks everywhere in the plastic, with my old Kingston ones lasting me several years before the wire eventually giving up. It's honestly really as as they were really unmatched in my opinion when it comes to price, comfort and performance but now its a useless piece of plastic
I've had both I think the HP ones are far worse, build quality and the materials they used negatively impacted the sound quality too. I returned the HP ones, Im still using my Kingston Cloud 2s
ya ever considered the earpads contributing to the sound not the materials because broken in earpads sound better than new ones
you make this so easy to understand neve stop making videos i really like to watch you!
Hey I got a problem my usb control box 7.1 surround thingy is broken and I can't use my mic now How do i fix this or where can I get a replacement or something else thats competible ? please help
Normally you can get another one of these, but it's out of stock: hyperx.com/products/hyperx-surround-sound-card?variant=42070363373725
theres actually 3 cloud ii models, HP, new Kingston Hyperx and original HyperX
I own the new Kingston cloud II and its very similar to the new HP cloud II. the original Cloud II has way better build quality than my current Kingston Cloud II
Now i get it thx i also have a new Kingston and was wondering why some of the new Design elements on the Cloud 2 HP looked the same on my Kingston thx
@@namydad6547 are the headphones still good?
@@denisrobin2380 yea i enjoy them i do notice only a little difference between the new Kingston and the HP i use the HP at Work since we use those Cloud II's and i have my Kingston at home the new Kingston does have better design not as good as the old one from the looks but its minimal and the Audio difference to the HP isn't massive the Mic seems a little worse tho
@@denisrobin2380 i wouldn't switch them for now since i love using the Hyper X Cloud II's can't find any alternatives that would suit me and im not a audiophile i do have a desk mic with stand tho since the Cloud II is basically just good for like work meetings not for my gaming needs it does work but its like bare minimum
The most important change is the Micro mounting was changed each time.
Its literally the same in every aspect, expect I like the newer looks more than the old one.
Thats some bullshit. Hp ones are worse in every aspect. The sound the build quality. Are you paid for saying that?
@@amisauto4360 I just got a new cloud 2 to replace my old Kingston set as they are getting pretty tired. I instantly noticed the build quality being a bit different, but not bad, the sound itself is the same for me so far.
@@amisauto4360 Are you paid by a competitor?
@@loganmedia4401 ofc 1 dollar for every comment. But who pays me? Russian goverment? Kingston doesnt exist anymore bud from what i know
those soft touch plastics at the end of the headband might have a crack on them for you in 2 years my hp model ones are fully obliverated. i hvent misstreated the headset, its just cheap plastic.
Do these headphones work on PS3? Anyone who has tried them please reply to me
5:20 no its not the same the HP one is very tin sound the worst sound ever
HP is better
When I was young, I had headphones by HP... probably the worst headphones with comfort, quality, sound and mic :D Cloud 3 for 110 € in my country just no, thanks. You can buy Cloud 2 or Alpha and you will be fine with better mic.
Im planning to buy Cloud Alpha. How do you tell them apart if i want to buy the kingston one? Or Cloud Alpha isnt changed?
Good question, not sure if the Alpha is different.
❤
hp one break easily
The drivers are made of plastic in the HP ones.
Same in the Kingston version.
Promo sm
cheap materials, worse sound quality, higher price... nuff said
New ones sound like shit, steps on fps games doesn't sound good.