These videos are a great service to any level of arm wrestler. The explanations, the details, the examples of real matches, etc. Thanks for your work and keep it up 👍
It's awesome to have someone who's actually studied anatomy talk about these things. A lot of armwrestlers, even the great ones, are painfully unaware of the.. *Jannis accent* Biomechranics .. You get some really weird information out of some of them occasionally. heh
@@voiceofarmwrestling I might have an interesting question for you guys, if you ever plan to speak on the kingsmove again. Is it actually that dangerous? People always talk about how it "shows you're willing to break your arm" ... But I can't seem to find a single case. www.mtprehabjournal.com/article/doi/10.17784/mtprehabjournal.2018.16.567
@@voiceofarmwrestling i lost my press .whenever i did press i can't its painful its been a year but still i can't do it when i try its again pain in under elbow , how can i rid of it ,what i can do for healing
I'm one of those few guys. I feel so comfortable being in the dead wrist press. I don't know why. But it simply feels good. It kind of feels unfair using it. Especially in a strap. It feels like a pull and a press in the same time, all directed into the thumb of my opponents. Great video guys! 💪
@@provingastrology4471 Time. Patience. Get used to very high loads in training. Might take a while. Be sure that one arm could handle 50% to 75% of your bodyweight in any direction. And try to activate every single muscle, every single moment. Core and connection is exactly as important as the arm itself. This is the best way to avoid injuries. Long story short: Get fckng strong and use what you got for your own protection.
18:30 Yanis forarm looks insane! He reminds me of a Drabon Ball's character, maybe he is a retired Supa Sayajin who knows... Very interesting video as usual, Yanis is such a grand master with nice soul, and you are doing great too. Keep it up!
Great talk and knowledge about the press. And definitely one of the best and fastest light weight presser got to be Talgat Aktaev, I've seen him beat some world class heavy weights with that move, it's kinda crazy. And I do agree that the move is for more advance pullers only, beginners that try it may very well get their arms broken.
I feel like in situations where my golfer's elbow (another great vid btw) is acting up and side-pressure is too painful, I can flip into a press and generate downward pressure without pain. Just a little thing that works for me sometimes.
@@voiceofarmwrestling You should make a Video on that topic alone, thousands of ppl suffer bc of this this particular problem in the same period of the project 'becoming an armwrestler', I honestly believe. I had it, I strengthened the area with heavy, band suspended loads, it worked very well. Make a Video, so many ppl would be thankful. I would do it. But you guys have the opportunity to reach millions.
@@EyeDriveATruck Basically find the exact spot of the whole curve where it actually hurts the most and use elastic Band suspended loads of about 50-60% in the beginning and just use a very short range of motion, only pulses. Just progress from there until you reach your previously highest PR but with those Bands. You can massage, vibrate and stretch that fucker as much as you want.... the whole tissues right in the elbow must 'break and tear', heal again and adapt, finally. Takes a few months to change all the tissue and cells. But it works wonders. Also, just throw in one week of rest before you start this period.
Who was the athlete from Kazakhstan you mentioned at 17:30? The guy who shoulder pressed with a sideways starting position? Would love to get come clips of this!
@@Mincraftia100 yes I do compete but I'm not willing to pay the prize to get on the next level if you know what I mean. Btw, Supra MK4 is one of the coolest cars ever for tuning
Sure, I looked on the internet for cupping videos and can't find any explaining why to cup, positions, purpose, keeping space in the cup, ect. I can only find videos on training the cup. I'd love to see a good video explaining it. Thank you!
Three heads are better than one, or two.. And lucky enough, they can usually find three happy homes XXX 🤔😛😅😂🤣😁 BTW, on a serious note, very informative press video. I would like to start doing it more once I get to the point where I feel my elbow can handle it. I just started working out again recently...👍✊👊💪
So I did pushups with a 20lb vest and my strongest move it seemed was wrist hook and pull inward towards my chest, but isn't that more of bicep than chest
I flop wrist press left hand because my finger strength is much more then my wrist strength and it makes it almost impossible for opponent to to take your pronation, unless they let you take some their pronation which will make it easier for them to take your pronation then take back their pronation, it won me the Manitoba provincial masters left hand 80KG title!
So I hear isometric holds develop explosive power, should I do this when I do pull ups, also what is good defense if your defending in kings move but can supernate back
How you defend when you are a presser? I am a presser myself. And i am very comfortable with that technique. Then, how am i gonna defend if im facing a strong toproller etc?
I started encountering this problem as a strong presser as well. I found that you have to be able to outlast your opponent. You're basically sitting on top of your arm and they're trying to bicep curl your entire frame. It's a lot easier to out-endure someone if you can manage to get on top of them
Basically the goal of an inside press is to throw your frame at your opponent. A toproll counters it (from my understanding) because it's hard to press someone to a pin if they keep their wrist away. Which is why flop wrist pressing is its own category.
Masyaallah.... u guyz make good educational videos about armwrestling... i like it... but i just wanna see some fun videos from your channel... this is just my input... but i still love and study armwrestling from your channel because it is educational
Shoulder press techniques no need to has power on bench press its different you need strong Shoulder and tricpes the tricpes and wrist are both the main response to pin your competitors
Same with me when I first started too. I've learned that if your rotator is weak, your bicep will feel very weak in armwrestling. When you attacking or defending, if you lack rotation(also known as pronation), you'll get oversupinated(palm completely face up) and feel like you have no power. So start training that rotation, soon you'll feel much stronger on the table. Hope that helps a little.
How activated are your triceps in this move though ? Seems to me because the angle between shoulder and hand basically stays the same, you're using more your whole upper body to move your opponents hand downward.
@@voiceofarmwrestling but you're not really moving your forearm away from your shoulder.the angle at your elbow doesn't open. There is a point where your bicep is stopping your forearm from getting close to your shoulder.
I've done wrestling and BJJ for 10 years weight training for 15. i've been training arm wrestling specific for a year now. I get some minor clavicle pain. im 82KG and train with a guy thats 128KG. I feel my tendons are OK. Or should I still be getting stronger before I go to press?
The problem with armwrestling is that you'll never get a beautiful ripped abs that every girls want! Arm is over training but abs is forgotten that's why I rather focus more on abs.
Been wanting this for awhile and you guys delivered. Thank you! Awesome work
These videos are a great service to any level of arm wrestler. The explanations, the details, the examples of real matches, etc. Thanks for your work and keep it up 👍
It's awesome to have someone who's actually studied anatomy talk about these things. A lot of armwrestlers, even the great ones, are painfully unaware of the.. *Jannis accent* Biomechranics .. You get some really weird information out of some of them occasionally. heh
@@mortenrl1946 A champion arm wrestler physiotherapist is the perfect instructor
We think big part of our edge is education in Sports science and also for Janis as a physiotherapist.
@@voiceofarmwrestling I might have an interesting question for you guys, if you ever plan to speak on the kingsmove again. Is it actually that dangerous? People always talk about how it "shows you're willing to break your arm" ... But I can't seem to find a single case.
www.mtprehabjournal.com/article/doi/10.17784/mtprehabjournal.2018.16.567
It's all humerus, no radius or ulna. Or maybe people who lock out their elbow are just really rare, but I've seen it around.. so it's kind of odd.
Watched a Travis video recently and he showed setting up at the table and raising up on toes like Ray for extra height 👍👍👍
We both are just fabolous.
@@voiceofarmwrestling i lost my press .whenever i did press i can't its painful its been a year but still i can't do it when i try its again pain in under elbow , how can i rid of it ,what i can do for healing
@@yogeshdhama2658 has it healed?
@@cata587 no it still pain whenever i do so i didn't practice press ,i only practice toproll pronation side pressure
@@cata587 and pain is gone but still can't do press
I'm one of those few guys.
I feel so comfortable being in the dead wrist press.
I don't know why. But it simply feels good. It kind of feels unfair using it.
Especially in a strap.
It feels like a pull and a press in the same time, all directed into the thumb of my opponents.
Great video guys! 💪
@Texas Made Strength Not a bit. It is kind of flexed in a fully stretched position. Just like I would do a muscle up on the hand of my opponent.
I’m new to the sport and also feel good in a press. Any advice on how to avoid injury?
@@provingastrology4471 Time. Patience. Get used to very high loads in training. Might take a while. Be sure that one arm could handle 50% to 75% of your bodyweight in any direction. And try to activate every single muscle, every single moment. Core and connection is exactly as important as the arm itself. This is the best way to avoid injuries. Long story short: Get fckng strong and use what you got for your own protection.
@@patricklee8789 thank you 💪
@@provingastrology4471 You're welcome!
18:30 Yanis forarm looks insane! He reminds me of a Drabon Ball's character, maybe he is a retired Supa Sayajin who knows...
Very interesting video as usual, Yanis is such a grand master with nice soul, and you are doing great too.
Keep it up!
Good that Im doing great too
Great talk and knowledge about the press. And definitely one of the best and fastest light weight presser got to be Talgat Aktaev, I've seen him beat some world class heavy weights with that move, it's kinda crazy. And I do agree that the move is for more advance pullers only, beginners that try it may very well get their arms broken.
Thank You Kai, you are right!
I feel like in situations where my golfer's elbow (another great vid btw) is acting up and side-pressure is too painful, I can flip into a press and generate downward pressure without pain. Just a little thing that works for me sometimes.
You should work on your medial epiconliytis if you feel pain with cupped wrist but not with flop, strengthen that tendon hard!
@@voiceofarmwrestling Thanks a lot! I will do that!
@@voiceofarmwrestling You should make a Video on that topic alone, thousands of ppl suffer bc of this this particular problem in the same period of the project 'becoming an armwrestler', I honestly believe. I had it, I strengthened the area with heavy, band suspended loads, it worked very well. Make a Video, so many ppl would be thankful. I would do it. But you guys have the opportunity to reach millions.
@@patricklee8789can you describe the angle and range of motion that helped you?
@@EyeDriveATruck Basically find the exact spot of the whole curve where it actually hurts the most and use elastic Band suspended loads of about 50-60% in the beginning and just use a very short range of motion, only pulses. Just progress from there until you reach your previously highest PR but with those Bands.
You can massage, vibrate and stretch that fucker as much as you want.... the whole tissues right in the elbow must 'break and tear', heal again and adapt, finally. Takes a few months to change all the tissue and cells. But it works wonders. Also, just throw in one week of rest before you start this period.
Thanks guys very good insight.
You are very welcome
Can we have an explanation video on Kingsmove?
I think Devon and Todd have both done enough explaining
Very Informative coach
Thank You
Thanks coach. Really appreciate this one.
You are welcome buddy!
EXCELLENT!!! This is a great addition to you informational/technical videos. THANKS!
You are very welcome Benjamin!
I wish you guys had a video where you layout many of the beginning moves, intermediate moves, and advanced moves.
I'm very new but I've been pressing as my main move. It's like 3 times stronger than everything else.
Its not beginner move. Very very easy to get injured.
Excellent video guys 😀
Thank You
Best press technique video ever
Thank You
Great video! 👍💪
Thanks Timmy!
Wagner Bortolato is a phenomenal presser as we just saw at East vs West
Great video and very informative guys. How would you go about training for the press off the table?
When opponent holds with two hands.
I only bench press supersetted with barbell row. It's quick and balanced. Inevitably leads to injury.
Hi Ray,
Whats the difference between shoulder press and triceps press?
I don`t see a difference just different name for basically same move.
Great video!
Thank You!
Who was the athlete from Kazakhstan you mentioned at 17:30? The guy who shoulder pressed with a sideways starting position? Would love to get come clips of this!
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Is the tricep press a variation of the hook or the shoulder roll?
amazing thanks
Welcome
Filip Cico Hritz has a very good shoulder press too
Yes, weights he moves and his progress is tremendous.
Do you compete Timmy?
@@Mincraftia100 yes I do compete but I'm not willing to pay the prize to get on the next level if you know what I mean. Btw, Supra MK4 is one of the coolest cars ever for tuning
@@TimmyTurner421 2jz is a great engine don't get me wrong however the supra is the most overhyped car
Would it be possible to get an in-depth look at cupping? I can't find a video on it. By the way, another spectacular video. Thank you!
Didn`t really understand you question, can you be more specific?
Sure, I looked on the internet for cupping videos and can't find any explaining why to cup, positions, purpose, keeping space in the cup, ect. I can only find videos on training the cup. I'd love to see a good video explaining it. Thank you!
What are the workouts against tricep press???
Three heads are better than one, or two.. And lucky enough, they can usually find three happy homes XXX 🤔😛😅😂🤣😁 BTW, on a serious note, very informative press video. I would like to start doing it more once I get to the point where I feel my elbow can handle it. I just started working out again recently...👍✊👊💪
Awesome!
Where were you guys looking while explaining?
Who's the red puller at 14:38 ish?
Trubin
I'm really trying to get this move down like the Kazakhs.
So I did pushups with a 20lb vest and my strongest move it seemed was wrist hook and pull inward towards my chest, but isn't that more of bicep than chest
I flop wrist press left hand because my finger strength is much more then my wrist strength and it makes it almost impossible for opponent to to take your pronation, unless they let you take some their pronation which will make it easier for them to take your pronation then take back their pronation, it won me the Manitoba provincial masters left hand 80KG title!
But that being said I am a stronger puller then pusher, and like to use the press to finish when they stop my toproll near the pin!
Aktaev Talgat ✊✊✊👍👍👍
What's a good counter to the tricep press
If you feel comfortable with it. Would it be beneficial to flop wrist a hook arm wrestling pushing him to the outside?
If that takes for you to win then yes.
You are talking about shoulder press (with supination).. But my oponent uses shoulder press with pronation..
Is there any solution for this situation
refer minute 11.29
So I hear isometric holds develop explosive power, should I do this when I do pull ups, also what is good defense if your defending in kings move but can supernate back
Can opener
Hello! Is the tricep press similar to a hook?
Thank you for this, I am very interested in arm wrestling exercises even though I never made it to the table to wrangle yet.
You will get there, good luck!
Try Armbet. I found a group
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Spasiba Viktor!
I have a good press but I can't pin the opponent...i get stuck in an inch from the pad
How you defend when you are a presser? I am a presser myself. And i am very comfortable with that technique. Then, how am i gonna defend if im facing a strong toproller etc?
I started encountering this problem as a strong presser as well. I found that you have to be able to outlast your opponent. You're basically sitting on top of your arm and they're trying to bicep curl your entire frame. It's a lot easier to out-endure someone if you can manage to get on top of them
@@rainyriderr1112 i see. Thanks mate! Good information!
Basically the goal of an inside press is to throw your frame at your opponent. A toproll counters it (from my understanding) because it's hard to press someone to a pin if they keep their wrist away. Which is why flop wrist pressing is its own category.
Masyaallah.... u guyz make good educational videos about armwrestling... i like it... but i just wanna see some fun videos from your channel... this is just my input... but i still love and study armwrestling from your channel because it is educational
We are about education and training, maybe someday I will put on all the bloopers. But thats not what we are about.
This video can’t be a coincidence with Jerry VS Todd match ahead ..right ?
Little coincidence but we know this was fitting. :)
Shoulder press techniques no need to has power on bench press its different you need strong Shoulder and tricpes the tricpes and wrist are both the main response to pin your competitors
My hook suck so bad i dont why i just cant figure it. My bicep is strong in the gym but on table a feel like a child.
Same with me when I first started too. I've learned that if your rotator is weak, your bicep will feel very weak in armwrestling. When you attacking or defending, if you lack rotation(also known as pronation), you'll get oversupinated(palm completely face up) and feel like you have no power. So start training that rotation, soon you'll feel much stronger on the table. Hope that helps a little.
How activated are your triceps in this move though ? Seems to me because the angle between shoulder and hand basically stays the same, you're using more your whole upper body to move your opponents hand downward.
You are pressing you arm down, thats how you activate it
@@voiceofarmwrestling but you're not really moving your forearm away from your shoulder.the angle at your elbow doesn't open. There is a point where your bicep is stopping your forearm from getting close to your shoulder.
in each of those videoclips at the beginning, Ray isn't squared up at all, the refs letting him get away with massive carving ;)
I don't know but I always beat top rollers with this technique
190kg bench press. 2.1 times your bodyweight.
I hate the tricep press, hate it deeply! 😁
I know! :D
😁 But still use it. And effective. - Janis
I've done wrestling and BJJ for 10 years weight training for 15. i've been training arm wrestling specific for a year now. I get some minor clavicle pain. im 82KG and train with a guy thats 128KG. I feel my tendons are OK. Or should I still be getting stronger before I go to press?
why dont you cover fast twitch muscles in a video guys :) like squeezing all u can and as fast reps u can do around a towel 50 reps x 3
Name of that fast press armwrestler?
Aktaev
WOW 200 kg bench press, thats serious weight
10+ years in making
who wants to see a match between them and ofc Vladislav?
Us vs Vladislavs?
@@voiceofarmwrestling yes:))
@@ARMWRESTLINGHIGHLIGHTS Come to any practice
@@voiceofarmwrestling when I said us I meant you and "last jedi", not me and you guys :))) you would destroy me btw:)))
All the technic can go to trash when the opponent is simply stronger than you :)
Maybe
I think that's most risk style, you r hand must be strong and elastic or gonna break any moment🤪
And what when you are weak at both, pushing and pulling?
Either quit or get STRONGER
It is more blessed to give than to receive.-Jesus Christ
press with flop or not is not for beginers.its a dangerous move.liepins is corect
Yes I am!
The problem with armwrestling is that you'll never get a beautiful ripped abs that every girls want! Arm is over training but abs is forgotten that's why I rather focus more on abs.
I don't really like the King's move and triceps press. Just stick with the hook or toprol. Those are real battles. Peace v
Its not what you like but what works. We also have preferences and we deal what we don`t like.
@@voiceofarmwrestling i understand it's just my opinion. Also thanks for the video's, really like the advice you guys give us
rise4 hercules if this man says don't do it then we must not do it 😂
@@toopkarcher true 😂
Too bad Devon doesn’t train triceps
U imagined to defeat him
But he Kazakhstan guy beat u in second
U have no time to put him to defense
out of context 8:10
🤘
That bald guy talks alot of uncessarry stuffs
It is more blessed to give than to receive.-Jesus Christ