Every Precision Rifle Brake Tested and Ranked part 2 of 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Part 2 of the MB testing video. We added some MB on the line, and more test. The same barricade but loading the buttstock, also comparing 223rem to 6cm to see if there is a difference.
Same bad English, same nice content!
1:35 - Presentation of the new brakes
2:58 - Spearhead Gen1 vs Gen2 vs Gen3 results
3:31 - MPA OG result
4:31 - MPA prototype
5:32 - Conclusion 1 - Muzzle brake VS compensator
7:32 - Conclusion 2 - Size case effect on MB
9:48 - Conclusion 3 - Muzzle jumping down
Thank you all, please leave a comment on what you would like to see next, it's really appreciated.
Thanks for the time and effort, it’s appreciated!
Thank you, I like the feedback provided by the community !
Pick the top seven best one you think. And actually let us see it perform on the track or whatever set up you doing so we can see it. Thank you!
I think you did a really good job trying to quantify the results on stuff that’s very hard to, quantify keep it going
Thank you! Appreciate that
Youve done a good job. I would like to see the TERMINATOR T5 and the Warrior 35 Beast Tuner Muzzle Brake. These reduce Recoil much more and are veery popular. Keep up the testing.You do a great & fair job. Totally Unbiased. many Thanks
Thank you again for all the great R&D.
I bought the MPA DN5 after your watching your video it is nice kit but I will say my
Area 419 Hellfire match brake was much much easier to install and set.
I also bought an EVA vision brake from Norway, very nice kit too and also much easier to install than the MPA DN5 brake and it has a repeatable set up using set screws.
Maybe if you talk to your friends at MPA you could suggest a better set up than dual wrenches for setting up as you have to tape up the brake to keep it from being scratched and gouged by the wrenches and it is very difficult setting it level. JMHO
I will let MPA know. What I personnally do is setting the brake at about 15deg, then torque it with 1 wrench and a bubble level until it get into position. I agree it's still not the easiest way, but it work pretty well for me.
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Cheers mate I will try that next time it is off for cleaning.
How do we get a download of the results?
You did a great job gathering the data and explaining the results.
Thank you for taking the time to do this.
Send me an email or PM so I can send them to you
@@canadianprecisionshooting9597 copy that
Ok really liked your content, in layman's, for 5.56/223 and 308, which hybrid maker would you go with?? Top 3
Ouff rought question. Same brake to go both on a 223 and 308? How do you usually shoot(prone, standing, barricade, all the above), what is you shooting style (firm grip, pushing the rifle, etc.) And how sensible how you to concussion?
@@canadianprecisionshooting9597 so when we try clarifying a little bit more I live in Massachusetts and I have to pin and weld to my barrel. I'm looking for something I can pin and weld but still be able to switch out different type of muzzle brakes compensators if it makes any more sense, I don't want to buy a muzzle device and then find out I don't like it and I have to pay another $70 ever removed just to put a new one on after ruining the last one
@@mathewphillips4185 damn thats a rude law 😮
dumb it down for me. which is the best in your opinion for a 6.5 creed
well, how do you care about the concussion? What purpose will the rifle serve (shooting prone, PRS, long range, etc.)
"Reasonable" Concussion at, shooter with, a descent amount of,.. Recoil reduction and somewhat less,.. Bbl Jump ?
Do you still Like, the PVA, Jet 4 port or, Shock wave for, Hunting use ??
@@douglash.8862 for hunting use with usually quite "bigger" calibers (6.5CM and up) where you do care about concussion in a situation where you don't always have your ear protection on, I would go with the PVA shockwave
Thank You !! @@canadianprecisionshooting9597
@@canadianprecisionshooting9597 hopefully this isnt too late, but I also just got a 6.5 CM and Im wondering what your recommended brake would be. My purpose is just precision shooting from a bench or a mat, and I would like to have reduced concussion from the brake if possible (suppressors are illegal where I live sadly).
Soooooo, which one is the best?
hahaha, the conclusion is that the best brake gonna depend on you, on how you shoot (free recoil or loading), and what caliber you use.
What is the scaled factor vs relative score on the muzzle jump test?
Good question! The scaled factor is the result from the test itself, being put on a same comparative scale from the different day with some control group. The relative score is, from the scaled one, the "worst" result being put down to 0% and the best to 100%, so it's easier to read and compare them. I'm changing that with my next bench to get a result that should be the exact same on different days and condition tho, coming to a future explicative video, then a fourth testing with more MB.
You’ve cost me a lot of money you know 🤣. I bought the DN5 and it’s amazing on 6x47. Maybe a little too much for me on my dasher so I got an ATS to try out tomorrow
@@brianlopina991 At least the DN5 is cheap compare to some others. Let me know how you like the ATS
@@canadianprecisionshooting9597 The ATS is fantastic. I also really like the DN5. Both are reasonably priced. I think I’ll stick with the DN5 on bigger cases and the ATS on the Dasher. On my 6x47, the DN5 is truly magical. I see EVERYTHING, almost makes the bigger cases relevant again. Considering a 25x47 now! The ATS in my experience works well with the lower gas volume and reticle stays on target with less jolt. To me I think the answer is finding the brake that pairs best with your case. If I knew how to machine I’d start making case specific brakes!
Salut Yannick, je viens de terminer tes excellents vidéos sur les muzzlebreaks, j'aimerai avoir ton opinion pour un muzzle. J'utilise une Sig Cross en 6.5 cm, que j'utilise autant pour la chasse que pour le tir de précision, jusqu'à 600 mètres en range, mais cette été nous voulons pousser la machine à 1km +. Quelle serait ta suggestion? Merci!
Ca dépend de beaucoup de facteurs. Tir tu uniquement couché? Combien de balle par séance de tir? Et chasse tu avec des bouchons/coquilles?
Looking forward to more videos on this subject. Curious how the JP Recoil Eliminator ranks. Also curious about your muzzle brake's shift in zero vs bare muzzle. If there's a big change then I'd think that would mean the muzzle brake is creating a lot of flex in the barrel as the gasses escape.
My guess is the gasses are escaping after the bullet leave the barrel, and so probably not a big zero change. But easy to try/test in a next video!
Do you think you could show each break off a barricade both loaded and free recoil through the scope cam?
I have all the footage for that, but it's a 2min+ for every brake so would make the video too long. But I'm thinking about making couple "quick" videos of less then 5min that would present each brake more in dept (characteristics, each video, etc.)
I am still confused with results, maybe you can help me decipher.
How did the ACE do with 6.5CM, shooting prone with pressure applied?
I am looking for a muzzle brake-compensator, that will minimize muzzle jump, stay in target as much as possible of couse, and that reduces muzzle concussion.
Merci d’avance
The ACE is more of a comp, working well to stay on target while positionnal shooting. It is not design to be optimal shooting prone. You should look at the third video, uploading this week, that will go deeper in performance per concussion
I appreciate your prompt & clear response.
I look forward to watching the 3rd episode.
Really enjoyed the videos so far. My apologies if this has been asked and answered, but are you planning to test the Without Warming TMB?
Yes I am planning, after the season tho.
And hopefully the ATS Muzzle Device as well
What is the concussion like at the shooter with the MPA DN5?
better then the Fat Bastard and TMB, worst then the ACE and ATS, if it can help. On my third video (uploading this week), I'll have blast angle AND concussion felt to the shooter (a personnal scale) trying to compare them differently.
Thank you now I am thinking about the ace. It will be on a 1.250 straight taper 6 dasher. So now I’m a bit torn between the two lol. I appreciate your in depth video. Thanks!!
I will admit that I don’t understand why one break can do well if it’s freely allowed to recoil and a completely different brake does well when there’s some resistance that seems like the one that did well on free recoil should be right up there with the one that does the best when there’s some resistance
It is a really intuitive way and it's also what I was expecting before the test.
As I said in the video, after talking with different makers, some of them make a difference between a real muzzle brake that aim at reducing recoil, and a compensator that aim at keeping the barrel level. Where the brake goal is to push as much force behind to reduce/move the total amount of energy in the momentum and so can push gazes with different angle and move the muzzle (rise or sideway) to reduce the force at the buttstock overall, the comp on his side try to move gazes around aiming at keeping the muzzle straight, no matter how much the buttstock will move backward in the process.
And so, different port configuration bring different movement, not only in term of recoil, but also in term of muzzle movement that will have different behavior having resistant behind. Where the free recoil testing help seeing the comp performance, a loaded test will have more impact on the recoil reduction side.
It is my understanding
@@canadianprecisionshooting9597 so the ace was best compensator?
I also had a hard time understanding the results.
How did the ACE do with pressure applied, using a 6.5 CM ?
You didn't test the Precision Armament Hypertap?
No
I can confirm that they will be in part 3 of the MB testing video!
When are you expecting to release that video? Hopefully soon.
@@izhar4547 testing should be done mid january depending on the snow we get here. So release should be around mid feb. if everything goes well. Surely not before that as I'm waiting for some other brake to come
As I mentioned on your earlier video, it's an incomplete test really. You didn't include the Ultradyne Apollo Max in the test.
I hope that you understand I cannot try the thousands of MB that exist. It's stated at the beginning of the video that I and trying the must used according to PRS officials information, and other brand that reach out to me for testing. I'll reach to them to see if they want to be part of the third testing video, but again, I cannot try them all.