Hi Ramsey, I sing a lot of grunge and metal but I'm a low baritone/high bass. I can sing Bb4s and A4s and C5s and all of that but F4-Ab4 starts really trashing me and hurting although some people tell me it sounds good still. Are there any tips for singing in in your bridge for entire verses without falsetto without sounding like Kurt Cobain from Nirvana and/or trashing your voice? Also, I can hit those notes if there is only like 1 of them representing a peak.
Ty for explaining this so well. I briefly took singing lessons and asked about how to improve this vocal break. The teacher said it was normal and didn’t help me work on it at all. I stopped taking lessons almost as soon as I began. Years later I am learning the terms chest voice, head voice and passagio from you for the first time. Ty so much for describing it so well. I feel like I can probably make progress finally! I’m inspired to try again
I'm actually so blessed, my singing teacher told me that I'm naturally able to sing in mixed voice and I was sat for 10 minutes trying to find my vocal break. I lit don't have one YES.
Awesome video. One thing that helps me that took a long time to figure out and that i dont really see talked about much is this... relax your eyes and lift eyebrows to help open sinuses. It will free up soft palate and help keep resonance/support/tone/volume through your bridge. I have severely deviated septum so this is a must for me to keep my mixed voice together. "Resonance resonance resonance"
Yep I use these exact exercises and, after 10 plus years, am singing right through the bridge. It probably took 18 months and wasn't linear. You still need to apply the "feelings" from your exercises to actual songs. Then you'll need to do one phrase at a time. The lip trill is crucial, breath and high notes without strain. The long scale is a gamechanger because once u start on a C chord the scale goes directly across the bridge to a G4. The bratty "na" places the notes in the face/mouth. I also do octave sirens to check for breaks. Do them in the car, everywhere. Anyway last night coming home I did some exercises in car and notices a nice g4. No....a good one. I rushed upstairs, grabbed a guitar and sang "who'll stop the rain" in g. F#$%% me!@ I recorded it and, hey presto!!! The g4 notes were there. I then capod "burning love" up to Ed (I usually do in c). Yep passed!!! Ok. Were these great performances? No. They need a lot of work but, I didn't strain and my vox was fine afterwards. They will be gig ready soon. I woke up at 3 AM this morning to pee (sounds like a tune) and couldn't resist listening to the 2 phone recordings.....15-20 years, and playing pubs and clubs. At 64years... finally broke thru the wall.
This is awesome. The two areas you described are the 1st bridge for men and women with the exception of True Bassos and Contraltos. Their bridges are lower.
Great work Matt, I hate A4 (female) it's my worst note. I totally agree, there's a bridge pretty much every 4th or 5th note. Yes so many student don't allow the voice to shift and try to hold the sound in the throat! Let go, everyone! Btw Matt you are a real vocal nerd, I love it!
@@ramseyvoicestudio Can u pls do Guide how to find primo and secondo passagio? I mean when i sing probably in my chest with plugging the nose mine voice breaks on E4 does it mean that it's my 1 or 2 passagio?
Hey man, thanks for the videos. I can't afford formal singing lessons. So I watch a lot of your videos. I find them helpful. And I appreciate you. I am proud of my range ( F2 - Eb2/F5 ). Without warming up, so I wonder if it changes with a warmup. But I do want to continue working on confidence, Timbre, weight and power with dexterity and expanding my range.
Really excellent advice and guidance, Matt, thank you! I like how you break down the mechanics of how the break happens. I'm working through this most every night now, using your excellent techniques to help me master singing fully in my mixed voice with as little break as I can. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Thank you so much for this! It helps a lot! I'm currently a boy soprano (my first passaggio is at A4 and my second passaggio is at F5. I'm assuming there is a third bridge as well, and if there is, mine is definitely A5 because my Bb5s and B5s usually don't come out with much power whilst every note below and including A5 contains some power when it comes out)
I think it was early '20 when I stumbled across what I now realise is my bridge (thanks you youuu mate) when I was messing around with vocal fry screams etc. Was crazy knowing there is as you say are different gears or parts of one's vocal chords they access
Thank you for this lesson! I love your videos! I love and relate to your enthusiasm. I have learned many things from you. You could do a review of one of my favorite singers: Audra MacDonald. She is a Broadway singer/actress, classically trained at Julliard in opera, she never wanted to be an opera singer but says she is grateful for her training because she learned to use her voice more fully. Why is it that so many REALLY good singers are usually unhappy with their performances (Audra stated once that 9 times out of 10 she is dissatisfied with her singing even though she sounds beautiful and flawless to me. On the other hand, many people who sing terrible think they have a great voice (just listen to a few Amer. Idol auditions)!
Thank you I am really struggling with my bridge, I stopped singing at a certain point its been over 16 yrs. I stopped my training. So I relearning I taught it would be like riding a bike, but the more re- pick up where I left off , I feel like I'm not signing I feel like I have to think about everything, Im in my head about it all, not head voice like thinking while signing not good why is this happening, anyways ty so much for what u do. 😇🦋
Could you give any advise on how to keep your vocal range as you grow older? I know you are very young, but this is a real challenge for me and I know that some great soprano singers lose their upper range gradually as they pass their 50s or 60s. Even Sandi Patty had to lower the key with which she sang as she passed thru her 50s (listen to her 1st performance of "We Shall Behold Him" made in her early 20s compared to her last performance of this same song).
Why is it common for singers to try avoiding their head voice?? Maybe it’s because I’m more of a soprano but it seems so natural to allow yourself to sing in head voice. But this sort of came up when my band director invited a friend of his who was an alto voice to sing “Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas” in our Christmas concert. The tough part was that the vocals were better suited for either a male singer, or sing an octave higher, which is what the singer tried but she struggled and tried to avoid switching to head voice. She later came back to the next rehearsal and her vocal coach simply suggested she not run away from her head voice and lean into it instead. It seemed like the obvious answer in my mind so it left me wondering why she resisted it so much in the first place if she’s an experienced singer.
I rarely don't suffer from vocal break and I can do chest to head voice easily, though my comfortable range is only up to f4, and d5 with head voice (according to online pitch detector).I'm male and I don't have a consistent voice when singing. Why is that? Maybe I'm used to singing disney songs that have head, chest and mixed voice between characters like the songs from Beauty and the Beast? Or singing with a raspy voice with rock and difficult songs that my voice is so destroyed or trained?
do you have tips to sing through my break while belting (the A after middle C) . i’m singing last midnight, as an audition song and i usually chicken out of belting but i decided not to this time. majority of the song is fine for me but once i get to the ending and it gets above that A i start cracking/have to flip and it sound reallll ugly. help please !!
How is one to keep the larynx fixed if it rises naturally. Seem conter intuitive to do something unnatural, but tell me what you propose as a solution other than sounding like Boo Boo when I sing, which isn't going to win me a pick-a-nick basket. Thank you.
How strange is it to have a break at C4? I have been at this enough to be sure it's not just poor technique, and with a lot of volume and support I can technically push up to a higher note if I really want to (with varying consequences and some risk of serious vocal injury if I do it wrong) but I definitely have a very real break right at middle C. Then I have an upper break at C5, a low break at C2-C#2 where I bottom out my chest and have to switch to subharmonics, and a really low break around C1 where I have to switch up my subharmonic techniques to get down into the extremely low stuff (more novelty than useful at that pitch tbh). Then there's like a gap starting around F#5, which seems to be the top of my healthy upper register. Beyond that I can still hit "notes" up into the 6th and 7th octave, and I can pitch them accurately enough to "sing" melodies in key up there, but they're really just howling screams using overtones more so than actual notes, and anything like that works differently from singing. It's been really hard to convince other vocalists and bandmates that I can't just force my break higher with more practice or by essentially yelling all the time, because it seriously messes up my voice and I like having access to my whole range when I write songs. I've already worked really hard on technique just to be able to sing properly up to C4, and I can actually flip into a falsetto much lower than that if I really want to, especially if I'm trying to bridge registers instead of using my break for effect. But no one seems willing to believe that my voice is actually placed that low, possibly because I work so hard to not sound strained around it, and possibly because my voice is also deceptively bright. Having my break at C4 is really frustrating because so little popular music is written for that, and the music I find most natural to sing is like... Guns N Roses, ACDC, some Roy Orbison or older bluesy stuff, and some odd songs here and there no one else seems to know... None of which is exactly casual or great karaoke fodder, and all of which is designed to be very challenging high-risk stuff to execute properly. There's almost nothing I can just sing for fun with friends, and my upper register sounds so unusual that I've had people tell me I shouldn't even bother trying to use it. I do write my own material with my band to make the best use of my voice, but I'm still really struggling to make my upper register sound good (it sounds so strange in contrast with my lower register, especially if I sing with any real power)... I put so much effort in, and it's hurting my confidence that I still can't get my upper register to rock as hard as I want it to. Is it really that uncommon to have a break at middle C, or am I missing something obvious here?
@@fendimdr4021 Well, I've kept practicing for at least a couple hours each day since I wrote this comment. My pitch accuracy, my stamina and strength, my control, timbre/tonality... all of those have improved, as you might expect. I can also bridge much more effectively than I could a year ago, with more options for how that sounds and more flexibility around where I start to adjust for it. All of that said, my registration is still the same. I never magically became a baritone, I still have what you might call a bass or bass-baritone registration. My voice actually wants to break at an even lower pitch now that I'm not squeezing it so hard, it has an even fuller timbre with more effortless volume at lower pitches when I'm more relaxed, and choosing to start bridging at lower pitches around maybe A3 (instead of trying to maintain a thicker sound at higher pitches) allows me to get a fuller timbre throughout my bridge and into my upper register without as much fatigue or consequence. I can belt up to around E4 if I want to, with more control than I used to have, but this is still fatiguing relative to the amount of width and volume/weight I try to maintain up there. I can sing a lot more different stuff than I used to, including a lot of tenor rock songs, with really a fair bit of skill, and I can often make it sound pretty impressive, but that doesn't mean it sounds /great/ when directly compared with voices whose registration naturally fit the songs I am singing. It's still much more challenging for me to sing outside of my registration, I still sing bass and bass-baritone songs best, and I still lose quality in singing outside of that registration much more easily. If I'm a little too stressed out, self-conscious, tense, tired, or coming down with something? My Led Zeppelin ain't gonna sound great that day, whereas my Johnny Cash or Guns N Roses will likely still sound good enough that no one would notice. To this day, the "easy baritone songs" everyone else sings for fun are still the hardest and ugliest songs for me to sing. No matter what shape I'm in, on any day, I'm just not a baritone, and I'm still very limited in singing cover songs or popular songs at jams or open mics because even if I can sing almost anything, that upper register sound or the amount of natural acoustic energy at the pitches required just isn't always going to be well suited to the song. But by accepting that, and by accepting the uniqueness of my own voice and learning to refine my use of it in targeted ways... yeah, I can totally rock now. It's not a sound everyone loves, and in playing shows and recording with my own band I've found that people either absolutely love my voice, or they REALLY don't like it. There's almost no middle ground, and some people still tell me I just shouldn't sing high stuff because they like my low stuff better and the high stuff just has too much tonal contrast with how thick and warm my voice can be in the lower octaves. People either love the sound of that narrower brighter twanged upper register, and uniquely harsh bridge area, or they hate it. But the ones who do enjoy it are very dedicated fans, and even the ones who hate my voice usually recognize how much skill is required to sing the music I write, so that's always rewarding. Out of curiosity, why do you ask?
Quick question - if I’m working on keeping the larynx low to help with my range , but these exercises raise the larynx , how do I then intermix the two ? If that makes sense
so if i have a massive break between two notes, i should just let the break happen? (like sing half of the scale in chest voice and the other half in head voice) and eventually the obvious break transition between chest/head becomes less obvious from practicing these exercises?
Hello every one, I have problem with coming back of mix to chest voice, when I want to going of chest to mix voice I don't have any break but when I want to coming back it's happen to me Pls help me
I have a question I'm 23 and I don't usually my head voice a lot as I didn't need to growing up singing in choirs and such. But I use to know how to access it. But so far I've just developed the sound of something that's maybe a mix. I don't know if it's a chesty mix or heady mix but I just don't know how head voice feels no more. Any time I try to do it, it just comes back to mix or screeches. I feel that my voice is so limited after 20. Any advice?
Listen to and sing lots and lots of songs that use a great deal of head voice. You do not need to be dead accurate whenever you sing along to the record, since you're only trying to get your lost head voice back. Just maintain this, try to 'not use your chest voice' (as much as you can) for singing the 'heady' notes. I used to have this exact same problem but looks like I have fixed it. You can go for songs sung by Cedric Bixler-Zavala (of TMV). Dude is a vocal god and nobody else sounds like him. So, singing along to him really really helps and you will start noticing changes within a week, with constant practice. Start with "Vicarious Atonement". Its a very heady song and singing it for 2-3 days will automatically help you stay in your lost head voice. Not only that, listening to and singing "The Mars Volta" songs 24-7 will also help you develop and control your head voice like never before. A tiny joke here, just don't go about looking for the Cedric of "At The Drive-In". That Cedric sounds nothing like the Cedric of TMV. Einar Solberg of Leprous also likes staying in his upper range (e.g Below, Acquired Taste). Do check them out for heady vocal practice sessions. Lastly, and I'm repeating again, try to avoid pulling your chest up to sing higher. Its okay if you sound ridiculous. Just try to mimic the sounds you hear when Cedric/Einar sings. Practise daily, taking rests! Take half a teaspoonful of honey before and after vocal practice sessions, and drink plenty of water. And absolutely no weed or cigarettes! Only bass-baritones can smoke weed and sing in their natural voice. Baritenors lose their upper heady notes after smoking weed, and end up being bass-baritones. Tenors lose their upper range (generally C5 and beyond) completely after smoking weed, but surprisingly can sing much lower notes with ease. Hope this helps. Good luck!
this is some interesting advice, I would certainly add that never go so far in trying to get your head voice back that you feel pain, back off and go at it gradually again
it'd be great if vocal coaches would stop mixing genders in these exercise videos. Nobody wants to wait around or skip through content that doesn't apply to themselves.
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Hi Ramsey, I sing a lot of grunge and metal but I'm a low baritone/high bass. I can sing Bb4s and A4s and C5s and all of that but F4-Ab4 starts really trashing me and hurting although some people tell me it sounds good still. Are there any tips for singing in in your bridge for entire verses without falsetto without sounding like Kurt Cobain from Nirvana and/or trashing your voice? Also, I can hit those notes if there is only like 1 of them representing a peak.
This is most well explained in physiological way which helped me a lot for hitting high notes. You are legend mate. Keep it up. Thanks a lot.
Ty for explaining this so well. I briefly took singing lessons and asked about how to improve this vocal break. The teacher said it was normal and didn’t help me work on it at all. I stopped taking lessons almost as soon as I began. Years later I am learning the terms chest voice, head voice and passagio from you for the first time. Ty so much for describing it so well. I feel like I can probably make progress finally! I’m inspired to try again
11:00 octave and a half lip trill
13:20 ng sound
15:00 ney sound bratty
16:35 no sound
I'm actually so blessed, my singing teacher told me that I'm naturally able to sing in mixed voice and I was sat for 10 minutes trying to find my vocal break. I lit don't have one YES.
Fair play to you, just wondering, were you aware of your soft pallet? I hope you’re taking advantage of your good luck. Peace ✌🏻😎
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Awesome video. One thing that helps me that took a long time to figure out and that i dont really see talked about much is this... relax your eyes and lift eyebrows to help open sinuses. It will free up soft palate and help keep resonance/support/tone/volume through your bridge. I have severely deviated septum so this is a must for me to keep my mixed voice together. "Resonance resonance resonance"
Yep I use these exact exercises and, after 10 plus years, am singing right through the bridge. It probably took 18 months and wasn't linear. You still need to apply the "feelings" from your exercises to actual songs. Then you'll need to do one phrase at a time. The lip trill is crucial, breath and high notes without strain. The long scale is a gamechanger because once u start on a C chord the scale goes directly across the bridge to a G4. The bratty "na" places the notes in the face/mouth. I also do octave sirens to check for breaks. Do them in the car, everywhere. Anyway last night coming home I did some exercises in car and notices a nice g4.
No....a good one. I rushed upstairs, grabbed a guitar and sang "who'll stop the rain" in g.
F#$%% me!@ I recorded it and, hey presto!!! The g4 notes were there. I then capod "burning love" up to Ed (I usually do in c). Yep passed!!!
Ok. Were these great performances? No. They need a lot of work but, I didn't strain and my vox was fine afterwards. They will be gig ready soon.
I woke up at 3 AM this morning to pee (sounds like a tune) and couldn't resist listening to the 2 phone recordings.....15-20 years, and playing pubs and clubs. At 64years... finally broke thru the wall.
I, Feel confident to study this video and imorovement😀😀
Thank you so much. I started doing these exercises regularly and have been benefitted a lot ! Thanks a ton 🙏🏻
I'm so thankful for your channel
thanks so much
This is awesome. The two areas you described are the 1st bridge for men and women with the exception of True Bassos and Contraltos. Their bridges are lower.
You are helping me understand this much better Matt. Thank you. Ive heard so many different phrases head, chest, falsetto voice etc 😅
Great work Matt, I hate A4 (female) it's my worst note. I totally agree, there's a bridge pretty much every 4th or 5th note. Yes so many student don't allow the voice to shift and try to hold the sound in the throat! Let go, everyone! Btw Matt you are a real vocal nerd, I love it!
Thanks, Dot!
so how many times are you meant to practice these exercises
@@tamunotamuno3564 everyday for 10 to 20 minutes at least. But, you should do a range of exercise that cover chest voice, head voice, and mix.
@@DotsSinging thanks
@@ramseyvoicestudio Can u pls do Guide how to find primo and secondo passagio?
I mean when i sing probably in my chest with plugging the nose mine voice breaks on E4 does it mean that it's my 1 or 2 passagio?
I love that you used Sam Smith as an example. He slides thru that break so effortlessly it's like magic. Back and forth and back again. He's nuts
Earmarked your Master Your Voice course for my next pay day too 😁
Very important tutoring I had a lot Problems with this issue. Good work Sir and thank you.
You are welcome
Hey man, thanks for the videos. I can't afford formal singing lessons. So I watch a lot of your videos. I find them helpful. And I appreciate you. I am proud of my range ( F2 - Eb2/F5 ). Without warming up, so I wonder if it changes with a warmup. But I do want to continue working on confidence, Timbre, weight and power with dexterity and expanding my range.
The goat on TH-cam , thank you so much for your help👍🏻❤️
Important tehniquee.thanks coach
Now get that into your passagio !!👌
funny!
Really excellent advice and guidance, Matt, thank you! I like how you break down the mechanics of how the break happens. I'm working through this most every night now, using your excellent techniques to help me master singing fully in my mixed voice with as little break as I can. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Am really learning something here, thanks to you Ramsey
Man this video is GOLD. Thank you!!
Thank you so much for this! It helps a lot! I'm currently a boy soprano (my first passaggio is at A4 and my second passaggio is at F5. I'm assuming there is a third bridge as well, and if there is, mine is definitely A5 because my Bb5s and B5s usually don't come out with much power whilst every note below and including A5 contains some power when it comes out)
yes, there is often a third bridge depending on your overall range
Ny range is to a E2-A5 or B5 on a goodday my first break is at G#4 and i wonder when i eliminate my Passaggio will i be able to mix up to F5
I think it was early '20 when I stumbled across what I now realise is my bridge (thanks you youuu mate) when I was messing around with vocal fry screams etc. Was crazy knowing there is as you say are different gears or parts of one's vocal chords they access
Thank you for this lesson! I love your videos! I love and relate to your enthusiasm. I have learned many things from you. You could do a review of one of my favorite singers: Audra MacDonald. She is a Broadway singer/actress, classically trained at Julliard in opera, she never wanted to be an opera singer but says she is grateful for her training because she learned to use her voice more fully. Why is it that so many REALLY good singers are usually unhappy with their performances (Audra stated once that 9 times out of 10 she is dissatisfied with her singing even though she sounds beautiful and flawless to me. On the other hand, many people who sing terrible think they have a great voice (just listen to a few Amer. Idol auditions)!
in my opinion, artists often judge themselves harshly, but that's why they are as good as they are, they're never satisfied with good enough!
these exercises works really well! thank you
Women’s first break is middle d/e to e/f from chest to the middle voice.
dude you're awesome! this is such a good channel for beginners like me
It is so helpful specially for high notes..
thanks!
I would think vocal sirens would be a good exercise too :)
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Thank you! You too!
Thank you I am really struggling with my bridge, I stopped singing at a certain point its been over 16 yrs. I stopped my training. So I relearning I taught it would be like riding a bike, but the more re- pick up where I left off , I feel like I'm not signing I feel like I have to think about everything, Im in my head about it all, not head voice like thinking while signing not good why is this happening, anyways ty so much for what u do. 😇🦋
Спасибо. Вы очень помогли мне.
I ❤️ this channel 🤗
Please react to Kaushiki Chakraborty's Raag Bhimpalasi song. I bet you will be blown away.
thanks!
I love the exercises, but also important - you are so FUNNY! Lol.
Oh thank you!
Could you give any advise on how to keep your vocal range as you grow older? I know you are very young, but this is a real challenge for me and I know that some great soprano singers lose their upper range gradually as they pass their 50s or 60s. Even Sandi Patty had to lower the key with which she sang as she passed thru her 50s (listen to her 1st performance of "We Shall Behold Him" made in her early 20s compared to her last performance of this same song).
honestly, the best advice is to practice as often as you can and challenge yourself to keep expanding your range:
ramseyvoice.com/expand-vocal-range/
I want to thank the law of attraction for bringing my awareness to your existence Matt. 04:53 in and am grinning with knowledge
Why is it common for singers to try avoiding their head voice?? Maybe it’s because I’m more of a soprano but it seems so natural to allow yourself to sing in head voice. But this sort of came up when my band director invited a friend of his who was an alto voice to sing “Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas” in our Christmas concert. The tough part was that the vocals were better suited for either a male singer, or sing an octave higher, which is what the singer tried but she struggled and tried to avoid switching to head voice. She later came back to the next rehearsal and her vocal coach simply suggested she not run away from her head voice and lean into it instead. It seemed like the obvious answer in my mind so it left me wondering why she resisted it so much in the first place if she’s an experienced singer.
Hello, great explanation. But if the voice breaks even in lip trill exercice? Thank you!
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keep larynx stable
keep volume even
dont spread mouth use jaw to open lightly
allow voice to shift
Hi Matt. This is off topic, but is possible for someone, like myself to have both thinner and thicker vocal chords? Thank you for this video.
there are many muscles as well as the vocal cords that help control singing
I rarely don't suffer from vocal break and I can do chest to head voice easily, though my comfortable range is only up to f4, and d5 with head voice (according to online pitch detector).I'm male and I don't have a consistent voice when singing. Why is that? Maybe I'm used to singing disney songs that have head, chest and mixed voice between characters like the songs from Beauty and the Beast? Or singing with a raspy voice with rock and difficult songs that my voice is so destroyed or trained?
I cannot do a lasting lip twill at all .Hardly at all. .. why ..? M.p. Never could. Still can’t mp
do you have tips to sing through my break while belting (the A after middle C) . i’m singing last midnight, as an audition song and i usually chicken out of belting but i decided not to this time. majority of the song is fine for me but once i get to the ending and it gets above that A i start cracking/have to flip and it sound reallll ugly. help please !!
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thanks so much
How is one to keep the larynx fixed if it rises naturally. Seem conter intuitive to do something unnatural, but tell me what you propose as a solution other than sounding like Boo Boo when I sing, which isn't going to win me a pick-a-nick basket. Thank you.
What happens up after F# up to A and beyond
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glad you're here
How strange is it to have a break at C4?
I have been at this enough to be sure it's not just poor technique, and with a lot of volume and support I can technically push up to a higher note if I really want to (with varying consequences and some risk of serious vocal injury if I do it wrong) but I definitely have a very real break right at middle C. Then I have an upper break at C5, a low break at C2-C#2 where I bottom out my chest and have to switch to subharmonics, and a really low break around C1 where I have to switch up my subharmonic techniques to get down into the extremely low stuff (more novelty than useful at that pitch tbh). Then there's like a gap starting around F#5, which seems to be the top of my healthy upper register. Beyond that I can still hit "notes" up into the 6th and 7th octave, and I can pitch them accurately enough to "sing" melodies in key up there, but they're really just howling screams using overtones more so than actual notes, and anything like that works differently from singing. It's been really hard to convince other vocalists and bandmates that I can't just force my break higher with more practice or by essentially yelling all the time, because it seriously messes up my voice and I like having access to my whole range when I write songs. I've already worked really hard on technique just to be able to sing properly up to C4, and I can actually flip into a falsetto much lower than that if I really want to, especially if I'm trying to bridge registers instead of using my break for effect. But no one seems willing to believe that my voice is actually placed that low, possibly because I work so hard to not sound strained around it, and possibly because my voice is also deceptively bright. Having my break at C4 is really frustrating because so little popular music is written for that, and the music I find most natural to sing is like... Guns N Roses, ACDC, some Roy Orbison or older bluesy stuff, and some odd songs here and there no one else seems to know... None of which is exactly casual or great karaoke fodder, and all of which is designed to be very challenging high-risk stuff to execute properly. There's almost nothing I can just sing for fun with friends, and my upper register sounds so unusual that I've had people tell me I shouldn't even bother trying to use it. I do write my own material with my band to make the best use of my voice, but I'm still really struggling to make my upper register sound good (it sounds so strange in contrast with my lower register, especially if I sing with any real power)... I put so much effort in, and it's hurting my confidence that I still can't get my upper register to rock as hard as I want it to.
Is it really that uncommon to have a break at middle C, or am I missing something obvious here?
What about now?
@@fendimdr4021 Well, I've kept practicing for at least a couple hours each day since I wrote this comment. My pitch accuracy, my stamina and strength, my control, timbre/tonality... all of those have improved, as you might expect. I can also bridge much more effectively than I could a year ago, with more options for how that sounds and more flexibility around where I start to adjust for it. All of that said, my registration is still the same. I never magically became a baritone, I still have what you might call a bass or bass-baritone registration. My voice actually wants to break at an even lower pitch now that I'm not squeezing it so hard, it has an even fuller timbre with more effortless volume at lower pitches when I'm more relaxed, and choosing to start bridging at lower pitches around maybe A3 (instead of trying to maintain a thicker sound at higher pitches) allows me to get a fuller timbre throughout my bridge and into my upper register without as much fatigue or consequence. I can belt up to around E4 if I want to, with more control than I used to have, but this is still fatiguing relative to the amount of width and volume/weight I try to maintain up there. I can sing a lot more different stuff than I used to, including a lot of tenor rock songs, with really a fair bit of skill, and I can often make it sound pretty impressive, but that doesn't mean it sounds /great/ when directly compared with voices whose registration naturally fit the songs I am singing. It's still much more challenging for me to sing outside of my registration, I still sing bass and bass-baritone songs best, and I still lose quality in singing outside of that registration much more easily. If I'm a little too stressed out, self-conscious, tense, tired, or coming down with something? My Led Zeppelin ain't gonna sound great that day, whereas my Johnny Cash or Guns N Roses will likely still sound good enough that no one would notice. To this day, the "easy baritone songs" everyone else sings for fun are still the hardest and ugliest songs for me to sing. No matter what shape I'm in, on any day, I'm just not a baritone, and I'm still very limited in singing cover songs or popular songs at jams or open mics because even if I can sing almost anything, that upper register sound or the amount of natural acoustic energy at the pitches required just isn't always going to be well suited to the song. But by accepting that, and by accepting the uniqueness of my own voice and learning to refine my use of it in targeted ways... yeah, I can totally rock now. It's not a sound everyone loves, and in playing shows and recording with my own band I've found that people either absolutely love my voice, or they REALLY don't like it. There's almost no middle ground, and some people still tell me I just shouldn't sing high stuff because they like my low stuff better and the high stuff just has too much tonal contrast with how thick and warm my voice can be in the lower octaves. People either love the sound of that narrower brighter twanged upper register, and uniquely harsh bridge area, or they hate it. But the ones who do enjoy it are very dedicated fans, and even the ones who hate my voice usually recognize how much skill is required to sing the music I write, so that's always rewarding.
Out of curiosity, why do you ask?
This is oddly similar to a Power to Sing's videos on the subject 🤔
Question:is it physically safe for malr singers to sing in a falsetto voice. If so, what is best way to trannsition from head voice to falsetto?
check this out:
ramseyvoice.com/head-voice-falsetto/
also if you're alone try doing a chewbacca impression while humming
If you have a good mix voice, you're going to have that break, correct?
Quick question - if I’m working on keeping the larynx low to help with my range , but these exercises raise the larynx , how do I then intermix the two ? If that makes sense
so if i have a massive break between two notes, i should just let the break happen? (like sing half of the scale in chest voice and the other half in head voice) and eventually the obvious break transition between chest/head becomes less obvious from practicing these exercises?
When i try and hit highs with the rung exercise i can feel the back of my throat vibrate and it gets really itchy is this normal?
Hello every one, I have problem with coming back of mix to chest voice, when I want to going of chest to mix voice I don't have any break but when I want to coming back it's happen to me
Pls help me
I have a question
I'm 23 and I don't usually my head voice a lot as I didn't need to growing up singing in choirs and such. But I use to know how to access it. But so far I've just developed the sound of something that's maybe a mix. I don't know if it's a chesty mix or heady mix but I just don't know how head voice feels no more. Any time I try to do it, it just comes back to mix or screeches. I feel that my voice is so limited after 20. Any advice?
Listen to and sing lots and lots of songs that use a great deal of head voice. You do not need to be dead accurate whenever you sing along to the record, since you're only trying to get your lost head voice back. Just maintain this, try to 'not use your chest voice' (as much as you can) for singing the 'heady' notes. I used to have this exact same problem but looks like I have fixed it.
You can go for songs sung by Cedric Bixler-Zavala (of TMV). Dude is a vocal god and nobody else sounds like him. So, singing along to him really really helps and you will start noticing changes within a week, with constant practice. Start with "Vicarious Atonement". Its a very heady song and singing it for 2-3 days will automatically help you stay in your lost head voice. Not only that, listening to and singing "The Mars Volta" songs 24-7 will also help you develop and control your head voice like never before. A tiny joke here, just don't go about looking for the Cedric of "At The Drive-In". That Cedric sounds nothing like the Cedric of TMV.
Einar Solberg of Leprous also likes staying in his upper range (e.g Below, Acquired Taste). Do check them out for heady vocal practice sessions.
Lastly, and I'm repeating again, try to avoid pulling your chest up to sing higher. Its okay if you sound ridiculous. Just try to mimic the sounds you hear when Cedric/Einar sings. Practise daily, taking rests! Take half a teaspoonful of honey before and after vocal practice sessions, and drink plenty of water.
And absolutely no weed or cigarettes! Only bass-baritones can smoke weed and sing in their natural voice. Baritenors lose their upper heady notes after smoking weed, and end up being bass-baritones. Tenors lose their upper range (generally C5 and beyond) completely after smoking weed, but surprisingly can sing much lower notes with ease.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
this is some interesting advice, I would certainly add that never go so far in trying to get your head voice back that you feel pain, back off and go at it gradually again
idk about girls, but ma dudes... get ready to for a lot of awkward yodelling
Seizure warning at 7 and 20
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it'd be great if vocal coaches would stop mixing genders in these exercise videos. Nobody wants to wait around or skip through content that doesn't apply to themselves.