I wish I knew about these techniques. This video is 3 years old from my comment and it’s still relevant. This insight is applicable to just about any camera you put on the crane 3s and it’s still a great gimbal
This video made my setup working without tremble. As in my case, last tuned axis wasn't correctly adjusted. After fixing that, everything works like a charm! 🎉😎
I own this gimbal and I think it's a bit heavy. I don't why, but time to time suddenly starts vibrating for a few seconds. I'm sure it's balanced right cuz a spent a lot of time doing it. I use it with my 7III on low mode.
Hey. I use Crane 3S with a Blackmagic 6K camera. FINALLY, NO VIBRATION. Everything is super smooth when moving with the camera and stabilizing. THANKS TO THE MANUFACTURER OF CHINA. FINALLY, THEY RESOLVED THE QUESTION
Great tip using the POV mode for low shot but am I able to "turn off" the roll axis? Its difficult to the smooth low obit shot and at the same time keeping the horizon level
Claus Møller if that’s inconvenient to execute i would suggest can also turn off the gimbal, hold it upside down and then turn on, and then select pf mode
Marcel Brandel - I will try it but (like you Said) it seems like the pan motor in POV mode is perfect for low orbit shot but with an active roll axis I too often end up with the horizon not being level
it's best to have all set (incl. cam and balanced) prior updating firmware, once firmware is updated and if there are still issues, it's good to do a calibration process on the gimbal
With my BMPCC I don't get any vibrations, but in under sling mode the pans aren't smooth, it's like the roll motor (that become the pan motor in under sling) doesn't;t have enough power to move smoothly, it kind of rocks back and forth. The weird thing is that it seems like the heavier I make the camera the better the smoothness... Any ideas? Do I need the power pack?
Thanks for the video, greatly appreciated the info. Does the base plate you added assist with balancing the bmpcc4k on the first balance you did with the camera facing upwards? I have exactly the same setup as you without the baseplate and noticed that I couldn’t balance the camera facing upwards, I ran out of movement on the crane but I can see how adding the baseplate would shift the weight more to the top side of the camera and achieve the balance.
Segale Mabiletsa the baseplate i attached additionally isn’t necessay. If u can’t face your camera’s lens up to the ceiling due to maybe hitting the roll axis, try face the lens downwards to the ground and balance. It’s the same
my camera is stripped down to only the cage and the baseplate, and my lens is nowhere as large as your sigma art, and it STILL vibrates like crazy (yes, i've tried all motor strengths), as well as started randomly going into sleep mode. I guess i got a bad apple.
Bro you've been at this for awhile now. I still purchased mine after seeing all your issues, I really hope they resolve it for you because I know you put in the work. I've got sleep mode issues but still need to do firmware upgrades.
There is a video from a guy talking about how having a full cage can be the problem because it only allows the camera to fit if the baseplate arm is slid 100% of the way out. He has a decently rigged up 4k and said by using a half cage it made it possible to at least slide in the base plate arm slightly and thus helping solve the problem. Can you actually fit your rig onto the baseplate without the right side touching the gimbal?
Is it possible to buy the tripod extension pole on it's own? I bought the 3S before the Pro came out and could really use the extra length from that pole.
yes it is possible, you can buy it here: store.zhiyun-tech.com/products/easysling-handle-for-crane-3s?_pos=1&_sid=72789418e&_ss=r&ref:OTUyMDMuMTIyMC45NTIxMi5U
To be fair I would’ve love to see a full rig bmpcc with the v-mount battery because canon battery can’t last 15 minutes shooting with this camera. Zhiyun mentions that this stabilizer can carry a lot so let’s see the maximum potential of the stabilizer.
yes it can, the problem though is lots of people have so many different setups. This is a if nothing works tutorial. But if you'd like to keep using a full on rig on it, i'd recommend to really make sure every component on their sits tight and locked. Especially lots of V-mount plates are not well locked on the rails and wobble so it may introduce jitter effects. If you want to just extend runtime, you could attach the zhiyun battery pack and use a light flexible dtap to bmpc power input cable to power it
Sorry but this reminded me to apple bending problems... this gimbal is not good. I have the crane 3s pro and i tried everything and it vibrates even with the batterie pack. Tried different cams and different setups. Used movi, ronin, crane 2 before all fine but this one is a fail. Sending it back.
Are you saying the bmpcc4k with Sigma 18-35 won't work properly on this gimbal if you keep the cage on? Taking the cage on and off is a pain in the ass while on a shoot. I only got this mainly because of the payload it purports it can handle
Kenny Hoskins hi, not necessarily, it depends on the form factor. If u have a cage in a good solid structure all connected well, then it should work well in addition with the lens support. But if you have a cage that has a very awkward shape where every component like mics, monitors and battery are hanging a bit loose. Then it won’t be easy
How to maintain focus when using gimble.. Focus wheel not able to play when heavy set up any other low budget assecories to maintain focus bmpcc 6k pro... I am from india
Is it possible to control the BMPCC4K through the gimbal and if so what “camera” option would I pick. I tested it out with my Canon 5D Markiii and was able to set the iso, f stop, etc through the smart handle.
Do you make your own settings as well thai you can share? How to put it in sleep mode? How to use the external battery? Can the video transmitter work to other devices than wifi network?
hi yes, feel free to check out the Crane 3S playlist for these questions in detail. In short the settings I'm using are actually the default ones, long press mode button to enter sleep mode. and external battery can be attached with its mounting plate on the side and connect it with the provided cable to the gimbal to power it. transmitter only talks straight to another phone or zhiyun receiver.
Hi. My 3s with my Blackmagic pocket 6k, Samyang Lens and Tilta Focus Motor shake while walking also if perfectly balanced and with an auto calibrated motor strength. No motor vibrations but a big shaking while walking. I also tried to use it upside-down. Nothing changes. Any suggestions?
Hey. Tell me, did you like the Crane 3S stabilizer? When you used the Crane 3S stabilizer and the Blackmagic 6K video camera, the video picture was smooth, did not twitch? Do you like the operation of the Crane 3S with the Blackmagic 6K? I also ordered a Crane 3S stabilizer.
because most adapters, also in this case are not steardy enough, to keep the lens fixed tight, therefore using a lens support will hold the camera package from both sides and make it solid in one piece, so it's easier for the gimbal to balance
I have the BMPCC 6k and always use rails and a lens support (even off the gimbal) because the EF mount on the camera is so crappy that the lens actually moves up and down when you use a focus motor with it. I’d imagine the 4K version isn’t much better.
any chance you can help me out with my 3s, just bought it and when i turn it on it goes straight to sleep mode. Also I cant even connect it to the app, it doesn't show up.
First, thank you for the nice explanation, but I faced a problem after balancing the camera and turning on the device, it vibrates, I do not know the reason, and I am very sure that I balance the camera well. Please answer my question and solve my problem. Thank you for your time
Hello Marcel! I use a BMPCC 6k with Battery-Grip (original BM), cause I like it compact! Did it works with the Grip in combination with the Smallrig also? I try it in a Shop and the vibration was crazy!!!! Maybe the salesman don't balance it well?? I also hear Zhiyun make a Firmware-update??? So I am not sure to buy this one, cause I must pay 1200€ in Austria.........
I upgraded from the Crane 2 because based on the main selling point of this gimbal-payload capacity. Right out of the gate you negated that benefit indicating that I have to use the camera naked. What is the point of buying this gimbal then? I spent years in marketing, so I get it. (I once had to do a nationwide apology tour for a learning platform that lost every students homework scores mid semester) The BMPCC cameras are blowing up and Zhiyun doesn't want to miss out on the revenue, but the right thing to do is to just say that the Crane 3 is NOT compatible with the BMPCC 4k/6K. The most compelling explanation I've seen is that the width of the BMPCC places the camera's center of gravity too far out on the X axis. Don't know if that can be addressed with a firmware update. I bought a half cage to see if that helps, if not ,this gimbal is headed back to B&H.
I just purchased the 3s pro and finally gotten it balanced. (I hadn't totally rigged it out yet just wanted to see if I could get it balanced) However, whe I turned it on it was doing the shakes (I don't know why) tomorrow I will update the firmware and balance again and see what happens. Btw I have the BMPCC6K with the tilta full cage, T5 SSD and the wireless transmission on it.
This did not completely fix the vibration issue. It went from vibrating at a 10 constantly to about a 4 in any position other than the default position. These motors definitely were not tested properly before this products release. And the motors should be able to perform flawlessly in any mode. You should not have to compromise by flipping the gimbal upside down just to do low orbits. Sorry but thats an excuse for faulty motors. If you're just trying to help then I apologize but if you work for Zhiyun then this is just a bunch of tips (not fixes) to deal with the shitty motors...
1st of all, I DO NOT WORK for Zhiyun, I’m an independent social media content creator in China and just had the luck and opportunity to create these tutorials and help any users who might have problems. 2nd is I’ve tested many units and helped a fair number of people to see where the problems of these vibration issues are coming from and honestly speaking most of the users had either wrong motor settings, not well configured cam packages or pan axis not correctly balanced. I’m just here to help. And ofcourse everyone should decide for themselves if this is the gimbal they like or not.
@@marcelbrandel9078 I balanced my c500 mk2 perfectly (also pan axis) and stripped down. With motor strengt on low it did the wobbly movement still, but medium high there were no issues at all. After that I try to balance it with everything on the gimbal (even mic), it was not perfectly balanced, but even then I got nice results in undersling mode without powerpack, but a higher setting. So hopeful that this can be a new workhorse. I ordered the smallrig ring around it to make it more usable (like a ronin 2.)
If you want to waste time on your shoots, buy this gimbal. If you want a frustrating time setting up for your shoots, this is definitely for you. This whole video shows that the Zhiyun Crane 3s doesn't just work! I've had mine for a year and watched all these videos, balanced, rebalanced, recalibrated blah blah and none of these solutions are 100%. No firmware updates have resolved any of this. Still vibrates and constantly messes up good shots. So many videos on TH-cam with people complaining about this, this product just has poor programming period. Also the software is poor, half of it is a social media app, only God knows why. Mine Zhiyun Crane 3s is for sale for 1/3 of the price and I will be lucky to even get that. Waste of time and money! Get a Ronin RS2, same price, you pick it up and it works, none of this crap. Don't support companies who make crap and fail to listen to their customers when they are clearly aware their products have major issues.
I wish I knew about these techniques. This video is 3 years old from my comment and it’s still relevant. This insight is applicable to just about any camera you put on the crane 3s and it’s still a great gimbal
This video made my setup working without tremble. As in my case, last tuned axis wasn't correctly adjusted. After fixing that, everything works like a charm! 🎉😎
this video just made my day. I've been having the shaking issue for a long time. turns out I wasn't balancing it properly, when I though I was.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video ! much appreciated
Thank you. Very helpful tutorial. I had issues with vibrations when I lower the gimbal in PF mode (bmpcc 4k).
Feel free to watch it in double speed if its slow, just wanted to make sure I don't leave out any details :D Hope it helps
Marcel Brandel Thank you so much for your advice. I really do appreciate it a lot.
I own this gimbal and I think it's a bit heavy. I don't why, but time to time suddenly starts vibrating for a few seconds. I'm sure it's balanced right cuz a spent a lot of time doing it. I use it with my 7III on low mode.
Hi, is there a way to use object tracking with this gimbal? I have the pro kit with the image transmitter.
Thank you so much!!! This fixed my problem- it turns out I wasn't balancing my pan axis properly
glad it helped and feel free to share to others who might experience similar issues
Hey. I use Crane 3S with a Blackmagic 6K camera. FINALLY, NO VIBRATION. Everything is super smooth when moving with the camera and stabilizing. THANKS TO THE MANUFACTURER OF CHINA. FINALLY, THEY RESOLVED THE QUESTION
@@LCuervo DOES NOT WORK 👎👎👎
Great tip using the POV mode for low shot but am I able to "turn off" the roll axis? Its difficult to the smooth low obit shot and at the same time keeping the horizon level
Claus Møller if that’s inconvenient to execute i would suggest can also turn off the gimbal, hold it upside down and then turn on, and then select pf mode
Marcel Brandel - I will try it but (like you Said) it seems like the pan motor in POV mode is perfect for low orbit shot but with an active roll axis I too often end up with the horizon not being level
Do you have to add the camera and balance the gimble prior to updating firmware. How do you properly connect the camera/
it's best to have all set (incl. cam and balanced) prior updating firmware, once firmware is updated and if there are still issues, it's good to do a calibration process on the gimbal
With my BMPCC I don't get any vibrations, but in under sling mode the pans aren't smooth, it's like the roll motor (that become the pan motor in under sling) doesn't;t have enough power to move smoothly, it kind of rocks back and forth. The weird thing is that it seems like the heavier I make the camera the better the smoothness... Any ideas? Do I need the power pack?
Plz help mesir my zhiyune crane3s... Not working properly.. When i am shoot with running shoot or normal shoot... My video is jerking...
Thanks for the video, greatly appreciated the info. Does the base plate you added assist with balancing the bmpcc4k on the first balance you did with the camera facing upwards? I have exactly the same setup as you without the baseplate and noticed that I couldn’t balance the camera facing upwards, I ran out of movement on the crane but I can see how adding the baseplate would shift the weight more to the top side of the camera and achieve the balance.
Segale Mabiletsa the baseplate i attached additionally isn’t necessay. If u can’t face your camera’s lens up to the ceiling due to maybe hitting the roll axis, try face the lens downwards to the ground and balance. It’s the same
my camera is stripped down to only the cage and the baseplate, and my lens is nowhere as large as your sigma art, and it STILL vibrates like crazy (yes, i've tried all motor strengths), as well as started randomly going into sleep mode. I guess i got a bad apple.
Bro you've been at this for awhile now. I still purchased mine after seeing all your issues, I really hope they resolve it for you because I know you put in the work. I've got sleep mode issues but still need to do firmware upgrades.
@@buddyfx7026 any updates cause i litterally just ordered mine lol
There is a video from a guy talking about how having a full cage can be the problem because it only allows the camera to fit if the baseplate arm is slid 100% of the way out. He has a decently rigged up 4k and said by using a half cage it made it possible to at least slide in the base plate arm slightly and thus helping solve the problem. Can you actually fit your rig onto the baseplate without the right side touching the gimbal?
th-cam.com/video/WOR1aGVXZu0/w-d-xo.html
Is it possible to buy the tripod extension pole on it's own? I bought the 3S before the Pro came out and could really use the extra length from that pole.
yes it is possible, you can buy it here:
store.zhiyun-tech.com/products/easysling-handle-for-crane-3s?_pos=1&_sid=72789418e&_ss=r&ref:OTUyMDMuMTIyMC45NTIxMi5U
Hey Marcel, I am curious what's your own quick release system you are using on top of the Zhiyun plate? Can you post a link or so? Thanks, Boris
I feel like I balanced everything my right but I’m still receiving vibration, any clue?
@@franktaylor3353 The only vibration I receive is when I tilt the crane down.. in the under sling mode
To be fair I would’ve love to see a full rig bmpcc with the v-mount battery because canon battery can’t last 15 minutes shooting with this camera. Zhiyun mentions that this stabilizer can carry a lot so let’s see the maximum potential of the stabilizer.
yes it can, the problem though is lots of people have so many different setups. This is a if nothing works tutorial. But if you'd like to keep using a full on rig on it, i'd recommend to really make sure every component on their sits tight and locked. Especially lots of V-mount plates are not well locked on the rails and wobble so it may introduce jitter effects. If you want to just extend runtime, you could attach the zhiyun battery pack and use a light flexible dtap to bmpc power input cable to power it
@@marcelbrandel9078 Are you sure D-tap to BMPCC is safe? The Zhiyun battery pack D-tap is outputting 14.8V and BMPCC weipu input is 12V
@@levraichris3321 I'd like to know this as well. Following.
@@goonytunes4119 I checked the BMPCC6k manual since then, the power input of the camera can receive from 10V to 20V so it's all good.
@@levraichris3321 awesome!! Thank you!!
Sorry but this reminded me to apple bending problems... this gimbal is not good. I have the crane 3s pro and i tried everything and it vibrates even with the batterie pack. Tried different cams and different setups. Used movi, ronin, crane 2 before all fine but this one is a fail. Sending it back.
The vibrations are mostly while suitcase mode, camera downwards, I think increasing power of the motors was a solution.
Are you saying the bmpcc4k with Sigma 18-35 won't work properly on this gimbal if you keep the cage on? Taking the cage on and off is a pain in the ass while on a shoot. I only got this mainly because of the payload it purports it can handle
Kenny Hoskins hi, not necessarily, it depends on the form factor. If u have a cage in a good solid structure all connected well, then it should work well in addition with the lens support. But if you have a cage that has a very awkward shape where every component like mics, monitors and battery are hanging a bit loose. Then it won’t be easy
How to maintain focus when using gimble.. Focus wheel not able to play when heavy set up any other low budget assecories to maintain focus bmpcc 6k pro... I am from india
Is it possible to control the BMPCC4K through the gimbal and if so what “camera” option would I pick. I tested it out with my Canon 5D Markiii and was able to set the iso, f stop, etc through the smart handle.
Do you make your own settings as well thai you can share? How to put it in sleep mode? How to use the external battery? Can the video transmitter work to other devices than wifi network?
hi yes, feel free to check out the Crane 3S playlist for these questions in detail. In short the settings I'm using are actually the default ones, long press mode button to enter sleep mode. and external battery can be attached with its mounting plate on the side and connect it with the provided cable to the gimbal to power it. transmitter only talks straight to another phone or zhiyun receiver.
Hi. My 3s with my Blackmagic pocket 6k, Samyang Lens and Tilta Focus Motor shake while walking also if perfectly balanced and with an auto calibrated motor strength. No motor vibrations but a big shaking while walking. I also tried to use it upside-down. Nothing changes. Any suggestions?
Hi have you attached a lens support and also did you try using the preset motor strength at low?
Hey. Tell me, did you like the Crane 3S stabilizer? When you used the Crane 3S stabilizer and the Blackmagic 6K video camera, the video picture was smooth, did not twitch? Do you like the operation of the Crane 3S with the Blackmagic 6K? I also ordered a Crane 3S stabilizer.
Thanks, You got my support as usual.
Please what is the crane 3 S app name?
Did you use a lens support because the adaptor makes the lens move a little or because the lens is too long?
because most adapters, also in this case are not steardy enough, to keep the lens fixed tight, therefore using a lens support will hold the camera package from both sides and make it solid in one piece, so it's easier for the gimbal to balance
I have the BMPCC 6k and always use rails and a lens support (even off the gimbal) because the EF mount on the camera is so crappy that the lens actually moves up and down when you use a focus motor with it. I’d imagine the 4K version isn’t much better.
Hi. How would it go being a bmp4k with tilta cage and battery side handle for camera power ??
(With a dzo lens )
U think it would balance ?
I have the half tilta cage, vmount, SSD and it balances it just fine, using mid-low power setting
any chance you can help me out with my 3s, just bought it and when i turn it on it goes straight to sleep mode. Also I cant even connect it to the app, it doesn't
show up.
I would reach out to the company themselves. Had the same problem. Sounds like your firmware is outdated
Very revealing. Thanks for the video it helps me alot. 🖤
First, thank you for the nice explanation, but I faced a problem after balancing the camera and turning on the device, it vibrates, I do not know the reason, and I am very sure that I balance the camera well. Please answer my question and solve my problem. Thank you for your time
You fix this?
Hello Marcel!
I use a BMPCC 6k with Battery-Grip (original BM), cause I like it compact! Did it works with the Grip in combination with the Smallrig also? I try it in a Shop and the vibration was crazy!!!! Maybe the salesman don't balance it well?? I also hear Zhiyun make a Firmware-update??? So I am not sure to buy this one, cause I must pay 1200€ in Austria.........
I upgraded from the Crane 2 because based on the main selling point of this gimbal-payload capacity. Right out of the gate you negated that benefit indicating that I have to use the camera naked. What is the point of buying this gimbal then? I spent years in marketing, so I get it. (I once had to do a nationwide apology tour for a learning platform that lost every students homework scores mid semester) The BMPCC cameras are blowing up and Zhiyun doesn't want to miss out on the revenue, but the right thing to do is to just say that the Crane 3 is NOT compatible with the BMPCC 4k/6K. The most compelling explanation I've seen is that the width of the BMPCC places the camera's center of gravity too far out on the X axis. Don't know if that can be addressed with a firmware update. I bought a half cage to see if that helps, if not ,this gimbal is headed back to B&H.
i appreciate this video very much
Can we charge bmpcc with crane 3s?
Yes but you need the power plus pack to and a dtap cable
awesome!!!
I WATCH MY CRANE 3S is different from yours. I don’t have a 👎 left spin, as in yours. Maybe my CRANE 3S is newer
Cергей Вернега hi do u still have issues with ur setup? mine works fine if yours still have feel free to contact me over facebook
Marcel Brandel I DID NOT UNDERSTAND YOU. Does crane 3s work with blackmagic 6K? everything is smooth without jerking?
I just purchased the 3s pro and finally gotten it balanced. (I hadn't totally rigged it out yet just wanted to see if I could get it balanced) However, whe I turned it on it was doing the shakes (I don't know why) tomorrow I will update the firmware and balance again and see what happens. Btw I have the BMPCC6K with the tilta full cage, T5 SSD and the wireless transmission on it.
This did not completely fix the vibration issue. It went from vibrating at a 10 constantly to about a 4 in any position other than the default position. These motors definitely were not tested properly before this products release. And the motors should be able to perform flawlessly in any mode. You should not have to compromise by flipping the gimbal upside down just to do low orbits. Sorry but thats an excuse for faulty motors. If you're just trying to help then I apologize but if you work for Zhiyun then this is just a bunch of tips (not fixes) to deal with the shitty motors...
He works for the company. I never trust these companies that support and are supported by oppressive lying governments.
1st of all, I DO NOT WORK for Zhiyun, I’m an independent social media content creator in China and just had the luck and opportunity to create these tutorials and help any users who might have problems. 2nd is I’ve tested many units and helped a fair number of people to see where the problems of these vibration issues are coming from and honestly speaking most of the users had either wrong motor settings, not well configured cam packages or pan axis not correctly balanced. I’m just here to help. And ofcourse everyone should decide for themselves if this is the gimbal they like or not.
@@marcelbrandel9078 I balanced my c500 mk2 perfectly (also pan axis) and stripped down. With motor strengt on low it did the wobbly movement still, but medium high there were no issues at all. After that I try to balance it with everything on the gimbal (even mic), it was not perfectly balanced, but even then I got nice results in undersling mode without powerpack, but a higher setting. So hopeful that this can be a new workhorse. I ordered the smallrig ring around it to make it more usable (like a ronin 2.)
If you want to waste time on your shoots, buy this gimbal. If you want a frustrating time setting up for your shoots, this is definitely for you. This whole video shows that the Zhiyun Crane 3s doesn't just work! I've had mine for a year and watched all these videos, balanced, rebalanced, recalibrated blah blah and none of these solutions are 100%. No firmware updates have resolved any of this. Still vibrates and constantly messes up good shots. So many videos on TH-cam with people complaining about this, this product just has poor programming period. Also the software is poor, half of it is a social media app, only God knows why. Mine Zhiyun Crane 3s is for sale for 1/3 of the price and I will be lucky to even get that. Waste of time and money! Get a Ronin RS2, same price, you pick it up and it works, none of this crap. Don't support companies who make crap and fail to listen to their customers when they are clearly aware their products have major issues.
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