Great video, glad to see someone who doesn't rush through the repair. I'm now ready to attempt the sofa in the basement where the cross members are through the dust cover. Only negative is the music, but that's my opinion. Thanks.
It's nice to see you doing this right. I have the same sofa and the back was bowed out shortly after buying it. I made a warranty claim and had the company pick it up and repair, but they only screwed a 6" board to the middle and put on some thin metal strips to reattach the fabric to the back. The board is split in multiple places and I'm working to repair it. If only they had done it right the first time...
These furniture stores should have to set out one of those frames so that at least the folks that want good furniture can go elsewhere. This stuff should just be to fill a void, not the norm. Great video. I have to wonder how someone who didn't or couldn't buy better furniture can afford you. You sir are a real craftsman and I hope they appreciate you.
Thanks smfick755: I get where your coming from, but the couple who own this sofa don't have any kids. We can't blame kids jumping on the sofa here, just poorly built junk being passed on to consumers as "top of the line" we have to ask who's line?
I cannot believe how lucky I am to have found this video! I have an IKEA sofa that is broken in a way that is functionally identical to the one in this video. (Taking this sucker apart is going to be a bit more complicated.) For what I paid when I bought it used in 2008, the sofa has given me plenty of life. Still, I'd rather not add it to the dump/garbage when it can be repaired. So, video in hand, a zig zag tool on the way, and a list of power tools to buy (I just bought a house and I have six dining room chairs to repair, so I'm going to need them eventually), here we go. Wish me luck!
A pine 2x4 is not as strong as a good piece of hardwood, but it sure is stronger than broken plywood. If you have the room for it I would say go ahead and give it a try.
I also spent money shipping my dad's old furniture out from Calif. to the UK. We calculated that event with shipping costs, we couldn't get the quality of furniture for even twice the money. Of course, now we have to refurbish an old danish modern day bed, and really have no idea where to begin. Still, fun ahead.
My couch has the same issue. The springs are held on my plastic clips that that are stapled on. I don't want th o remove them unless absolutely necessary. Do you think I can get away with just putting a new piece of wood over the cracked wood? My sofa cracked in the same place. The plywood in the middle is broken.
It would be worth a try, the worst that could happen is it wont work. A lot of effort I know but I can understand not wanting to remove all those clips. Good luck I hope it works out for you.
What do I Do the front Part of the frame on the left side if you're sitting down came out of those holes things that's in the sofa how can I put it back together? Try for ur help.
A new stronger piece is the best way to go. But if someone does not have the tools to do that a piece of heavy plywood could be attached over the broken piece. I would recommend doing this behind the frame so it would not show a bulge when everything is put back together.
I have this big ass couch one year old that broke similar to this one except mine broke in the edge roll where they connected the springs to. Then I only have two of those butt catcher sinking bar thingys lol I would have at least thought there would be four of those with how wide and long this couch is. But anywho flipped it thinking I would have an easy fix no this couch is made of nothing but plywood and not only is the roll bar broke in half the two butt catching thingys are broke as well. I paid way to much money to throw this away in only one year of usage. I don't know where to begin for someone who doesn't have tools.
The top, horizontal board on the BACK of my soft is broke/tweaked/etc. Looks like I might have to pull nearly the entire cover off (which has 100's of staples in it) just to get to it. Any advice on even getting to it? Once I dig in I'm committed so I have to decide if I'm going for it. I have 2 of these identical couches in my living room, I'd love to save it.
Yes you are correct, you will have to remove a lot of the upholstery to get at the damage. Start at the bottom with the dust cover located underneath the sofa then move on to the skirt if your sofa has one, next the outside back and finally the the top of the inside back. You may not have to remove all the pieces mentions just loosen them enough to get to the next piece. Your going to be dealing with thousands of staples, watch my latest video "Worlds Best Upholstery Staple Puller" I think this tool will be very helpful for you.
hey thanks for the video..needs an advice..exactly same issue lke urs..bt its fairly new and plywood has started to crack in the middle..i dnt wana spend much on it..any glue or holding tricks ?..i m nt a handy guy so i dont have tools
Not much you can do without replacing the broken board, especially without tools. I guess you could put something under the sofa to keep it from getting worse.
Do you have a video on how to repair supports under the couch? I'm thinking if I go buy a 2x4 and cut it to fit to just replace the boards that snapped... But I'm at a loss. I didn't see any other damage than a snapped support board.
Tabitha Hidalgo I do not have any videos up of that type of repair, but it is just remove and replace. I would recommend using screws, glue and I would use at least 3/4" hardwood rather than a 2x4, but a 2x4 is probably still better that what was there originally.
Great video! I watched this before getting a look at the problem with our sofa and was thinking, "Oh, this is more involved than what I expect to find." Then I looked and it seems all too similar. If I could go back I wouldn't purchase this, but I did and now I need to fix it. Hopefully that will be the end of the repairs needed, in which case I probably get off okay in terms of ROI. I do wonder that the spring release tool is called. Can someone without access to that tool use a more common tool or technique? If I need one, what is it called and do you know of a seller where I can find one online? I'm searching for one but the similar looking product I find seems to be for GM cars. Thanks for any info there and thanks again for the video.
+Matthew Miller Hi Matthew: The tool is called a Level Spring Bender. I don't know who sells them on line. I purchased mine from a professional upholstery supplier. If you cant find one send me an email and we can talk about getting one to you.
+mjamsdenfurniture Thanks for the help. I'm seeing a different looking tool when I search for a spring bender, but I did stumble across an Osborne spring stretcher that seems to fit the bill. Just thought I'd post that should it help anyone else. Thanks again!
David: I am going to be doing a review and demonstration on this tool soon with a link on where to purchase it. Watch for the video I think it will be helpful.
Nice video. Question- On a pullout sofa bed there are Helical springs for perimeter attachment to polypropylene deck. Mine have fallen off during use over past 6 mos. Is there a special tool needed to reattach these springs? What is name of tool needed?
+Robby Crawford Those springs are always falling off! I usually just use a flat head screw driver, or a pair of pliers, some times a combination of the two. If they are stubborn you might need to employ a helper for the task, but I have never had to use a special tool.
Hi, can you please give me a bit of info on this, it would be much appreciated! We have a sofa that is probably similar to this. It broke after it was only a few months old with two major splits like this on a board in the back that seems to be where all the springs are attached to, so the whole seating is falling in the back. I am not much of a carpenter and am very curious, what do you think is the likely price I'd be charged by a furniture repair company to have this 800 or so dollar couch repaired and reinforced (for heavier sitters)? Thanks so much for any guesstimate you can provide. I just have no idea what to expect if I call them, and I'd rather have a rough idea before they come over.
Nathan James Hi Nathan: It's really difficult to give you an accurate idea of cost, unfortunately not all repairs are done like the one described in the video, also labor rates can very greatly depending on location and skill level involved. Be very specific in what you want when talking to the people you have chosen to do the work. If I had to guess I would say up to around $200.00 would not be out of line, but this could go up if you are located in a large metropolitan area.
I want to fix my sofas which are fairly new but they are made of cheap plywood. In past months I reinforced them with steel plates long ones but now I find you cannot keep screwing into this plywood which comes apart. In the case of these sofas there is a central supporting beam running lengthwise as well, now this is going also. I suppose I must do what you have done for I see no way to repair it further now. Any advice?
Doing what I have done in the video has worked well for me on many occasions. But, there are many unique situations, but replacing with good solid hardwood and glue works most of the time. I have also been successful using bolts in areas where the wood could not hold screws.
I now found another method. Putting little plastic legs made out of stacking plastic pieces for door-stoppers that you get in B&Q levelled the sofa and then the plywood found its proper shape. That helped and is a useful trick not to change the wood.
Best advice I can give is to replace the broken part with solid hardwood. If your plywood will not hold together enough to hold screws, I have had some success using bolts.
For the sofa, or the repair? Most repairs run somewhere between $100 to $300 depending on work required. Sofas of this quality in my location run between $900.00 to $1500.00
Could someone please tell me how difficult would be to to this by amateur? I have quite new sofa which I really like with similar damage it's not worth for me to repair by professional but I cannot really afford to replace it at the moment.
It really depends on the ability of the amateur. You should be comfortable using power tools such as a drill for drilling and driving wood screws. You might also need to cut a board to replace one that is damaged. You will also need to buy the special clips for holding the zig zag springs in place. Without the proper tool for removing and reattaching the zig zag springs you could risk getting cut, the springs take a lot of strength to remove and replace without the aid of the special tool. It can be done, I have done it without the tool, but I would not recommend it, you really should have some strong help and take care around the sharp end of the spring. But until you actually remove the upholstery it is hard to say just what needs to be repaired.
I bought a used leather sofa for $35 and the middle sags, and the wood piece in the front is bending just like that. do you think I can do the same with my sofa?
+joanne jose Their are a couple of things you will need to make the repair, you can see me use these tools in the video, they are common tools that most people own, if they are the handy type, or easy to buy at most home stores. The most important tool and also the most difficult to obtain is the one I use to remove and install the springs. It is called a level spring bender, you can look online for one or, I can sell you one for around 40.00 bucks + shipping. A strong man can do it without the spring bender tool, but I would HIGHLY discourage it, it can be very dangerous, and some times the spring ends can be extremely sharp. They are under an enormous load when installed.
You are so right Helen: So many people today have forgotten that quality, although costing more in the beginning, ends up being much less expensive in the long run. Constant repair, or replacement is very expensive.
The clips shown in the video are called G Clips. G Clips fold over onto the face of the frame. Their are also E Clips, E Clips are U shaped and attach onto the top of the frame.
Stephen Gibbons Yes, actually they both require nails. I choose to use screws for the extra holding power. Mass furniture producers used to use staples, but have recently switched to clips that have barbs build into them, so extra hardware is not needed, at the expense of a clip with less holding ability.
Stephen Gibbons You can use drywall, deck screws, but most any wood screw will work. No need to have a screw so long that it protrudes through the wood, if your screw is long enough to exit the wood make sure nothing will catch on it. It is also important to remember that if screwing into plywood their is no strength in the endgain and spring clips should be anchored through the face of the wood.
I've seen these types of failures a lot. Re: Glue. You should try Franklin International's (Titebond) No-drip, No-run glue. It does a great job on end grain. And remember while half that plywood is end-grain, the other half is side grain. Couple of quotes: "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten." "There is hardly anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and those people who consider price only, are this man's lawful prey. It is unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much you lose a little money - that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot; it cannot be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better" John Ruskin (1819 - 1900)
Keith Mealy I haven't done much with it this winter, every time I spend time working on the bus I get behind around the house and at some point the house has to get caught up on LOL.
Rezena: Please go to my web site mjamsdenfurniture.com and email me from their. I do not want to post my email address here to avoid tons of spam. I will try and help you as best I can.
Hoary! LOL Actually its not really the use of plywood that is necessarily bad. Plywood used correctly can be very strong, it's the misuse of this product that causes all sorts of problems.
whoops, I meant to say: well, at least they used plywood & not particle board/chip board/wafer board or what I like to call engineered crap board. its amazing how much of that junk gets used for furniture frames.
It seems these days all of the sofas regarding of price (in UK) are made of this cheap plywood. I suspect it is Chinese as all thing. I wonder why they cannot spend a little more money, perhaps 20 USD more to put proper wood. Why do you think this is?
If a piece of furniture is not made in an Asian country, than the larger manufactures are trying to compete with those that are. What we are witnessing is the proverbial rush to the bottom.
yes it is probably best to fix or reinforce your sofa than buy a new one. what I did? I bought plastic pieces in b&q the type used as cheap door stoppers you can get 100 of them for 6 GBP or so. I then stacked them to make extra legs so that the sofa could regain its shape. I also used a piece of laminate flooring internally with sponge upholstery material to give it more rigidity from underneath. it worked ok for my son's party. in next few days I will work on the sofas a bit more.
+mjamsdenfurniture I dont think so. But we should get a replacement under the two year warranty. I think I will install a rollbar and replace the back and front while its structurally sound and replace the suspension. selling secondhand makes little sense as does going out and buying something new 14 months later. so while it sucks makes good sense to reenforce it before it becomes an issue again. ours experienced a separation from the front plywood, a collapse of one of the feet and cosmetically a sagging as well
Just repaired my own sofa yesterday and was my firstime reparing a sofa had a broken beam in the same spot..... boy your music sucks you should get better video music
Great video, glad to see someone who doesn't rush through the repair. I'm now ready to attempt the sofa in the basement where the cross members are through the dust cover. Only negative is the music, but that's my opinion. Thanks.
The production of the video is wonderful. The music was nice and your instructions are easy to follow.
Thank you Carmelized11candi: Glad you enjoyed the video.
It's nice to see you doing this right. I have the same sofa and the back was bowed out shortly after buying it. I made a warranty claim and had the company pick it up and repair, but they only screwed a 6" board to the middle and put on some thin metal strips to reattach the fabric to the back. The board is split in multiple places and I'm working to repair it. If only they had done it right the first time...
So true. I hope this video helps you get that sofa repaired right!
These furniture stores should have to set out one of those frames so that at least the folks that want good furniture can go elsewhere. This stuff should just be to fill a void, not the norm. Great video. I have to wonder how someone who didn't or couldn't buy better furniture can afford you. You sir are a real craftsman and I hope they appreciate you.
But then they wouldn't sell any sofas! Unfortunately most people just dont understand the difference
Great job and video. It's now ready for 10 more kids!
Thanks smfick755: I get where your coming from, but the couple who own this sofa don't have any kids. We can't blame kids jumping on the sofa here, just poorly built junk being passed on to consumers as "top of the line" we have to ask who's line?
Thank you for video. Have the same type of wood on my recliner and it split. Going to replace with hardwood maple like you mentioned.
I cannot believe how lucky I am to have found this video! I have an IKEA sofa that is broken in a way that is functionally identical to the one in this video. (Taking this sucker apart is going to be a bit more complicated.) For what I paid when I bought it used in 2008, the sofa has given me plenty of life. Still, I'd rather not add it to the dump/garbage when it can be repaired. So, video in hand, a zig zag tool on the way, and a list of power tools to buy (I just bought a house and I have six dining room chairs to repair, so I'm going to need them eventually), here we go. Wish me luck!
Good luck with your project Elizabeth, where there's a will there's always a way!
Me too I have a leather corner sofa from IKEA that has broken in the same place as well. Thank you for this Video
No better feeling than tacking in the new staples! That means she’s about finished lol
Thanks for the video, I have the same type of break on my sofa and will be attempting a similar repair.
Nice job Sir! I am impressed. You saved the day!
Thanks Phooesnax! Glad you enjoyed it.
Congratulations for an excellent video.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for this, this was incredibly helpful.
Good video. I’m wondering if I can use a 2x4 to brace the broken plywood of my couch. That way I wouldn’t have to replace the clips.
A pine 2x4 is not as strong as a good piece of hardwood, but it sure is stronger than broken plywood. If you have the room for it I would say go ahead and give it a try.
Great video!
I also spent money shipping my dad's old furniture out from Calif. to the UK. We calculated that event with shipping costs, we couldn't get the quality of furniture for even twice the money. Of course, now we have to refurbish an old danish modern day bed, and really have no idea where to begin. Still, fun ahead.
Very nice. Thanks for sharing.
have enjoyed your videos. helped me with wingback so great! thank you!!!
Your welcome! Thanks for letting me know you enjoyed the videos and I was able to help.
My couch has the same issue. The springs are held on my plastic clips that that are stapled on. I don't want th o remove them unless absolutely necessary. Do you think I can get away with just putting a new piece of wood over the cracked wood? My sofa cracked in the same place. The plywood in the middle is broken.
It would be worth a try, the worst that could happen is it wont work. A lot of effort I know but I can understand not wanting to remove all those clips. Good luck I hope it works out for you.
What do I Do the front Part of the frame on the left side if you're sitting down came out of those holes things that's in the sofa how can I put it back together? Try for ur help.
What if you can't manufacture a new piece. Is there a way to splint the broken piece or won't that provide enough strenght?
A new stronger piece is the best way to go. But if someone does not have the tools to do that a piece of heavy plywood could be attached over the broken piece. I would recommend doing this behind the frame so it would not show a bulge when everything is put back together.
Good job!
Thanks David!
I have this big ass couch one year old that broke similar to this one except mine broke in the edge roll where they connected the springs to. Then I only have two of those butt catcher sinking bar thingys lol I would have at least thought there would be four of those with how wide and long this couch is. But anywho flipped it thinking I would have an easy fix no this couch is made of nothing but plywood and not only is the roll bar broke in half the two butt catching thingys are broke as well. I paid way to much money to throw this away in only one year of usage. I don't know where to begin for someone who doesn't have tools.
The top, horizontal board on the BACK of my soft is broke/tweaked/etc. Looks like I might have to pull nearly the entire cover off (which has 100's of staples in it) just to get to it. Any advice on even getting to it? Once I dig in I'm committed so I have to decide if I'm going for it. I have 2 of these identical couches in my living room, I'd love to save it.
Yes you are correct, you will have to remove a lot of the upholstery to get at the damage. Start at the bottom with the dust cover located underneath the sofa then move on to the skirt if your sofa has one, next the outside back and finally the the top of the inside back. You may not have to remove all the pieces mentions just loosen them enough to get to the next piece. Your going to be dealing with thousands of staples, watch my latest video "Worlds Best Upholstery Staple Puller" I think this tool will be very helpful for you.
hey thanks for the video..needs an advice..exactly same issue lke urs..bt its fairly new and plywood has started to crack in the middle..i dnt wana spend much on it..any glue or holding tricks ?..i m nt a handy guy so i dont have tools
Not much you can do without replacing the broken board, especially without tools. I guess you could put something under the sofa to keep it from getting worse.
Thank you..wat abt a kinda 2 feet long wood plank under the midle of couch to distribute the stress ?..badly need help
Do you have a video on how to repair supports under the couch? I'm thinking if I go buy a 2x4 and cut it to fit to just replace the boards that snapped... But I'm at a loss. I didn't see any other damage than a snapped support board.
Tabitha Hidalgo I do not have any videos up of that type of repair, but it is just remove and replace. I would recommend using screws, glue and I would use at least 3/4" hardwood rather than a 2x4, but a 2x4 is probably still better that what was there originally.
Great video! I watched this before getting a look at the problem with our sofa and was thinking, "Oh, this is more involved than what I expect to find." Then I looked and it seems all too similar. If I could go back I wouldn't purchase this, but I did and now I need to fix it. Hopefully that will be the end of the repairs needed, in which case I probably get off okay in terms of ROI.
I do wonder that the spring release tool is called. Can someone without access to that tool use a more common tool or technique? If I need one, what is it called and do you know of a seller where I can find one online? I'm searching for one but the similar looking product I find seems to be for GM cars.
Thanks for any info there and thanks again for the video.
+Matthew Miller Hi Matthew: The tool is called a Level Spring Bender. I don't know who sells them on line. I purchased mine from a professional upholstery supplier. If you cant find one send me an email and we can talk about getting one to you.
+mjamsdenfurniture Thanks for the help. I'm seeing a different looking tool when I search for a spring bender, but I did stumble across an Osborne spring stretcher that seems to fit the bill. Just thought I'd post that should it help anyone else. Thanks again!
How did you get the springs back on normal?
The same tool used to remove the springs is also used to reinstall them.
How did you put the springs back on? Used new clips? Thanks !
Yes I used new clips.
The tool you used to remove the springs ... a tool of your own making? Or can be purchased somewhere?
David: I am going to be doing a review and demonstration on this tool soon with a link on where to purchase it. Watch for the video I think it will be helpful.
I need you in NYC! HELP!!!
Nice video. Question- On a pullout sofa bed there are Helical springs for perimeter attachment to polypropylene deck. Mine have fallen off during use over past 6 mos. Is there a special tool needed to reattach these springs? What is name of tool needed?
+Robby Crawford Those springs are always falling off! I usually just use a flat head screw driver, or a pair of pliers, some times a combination of the two. If they are stubborn you might need to employ a helper for the task, but I have never had to use a special tool.
+mjamsdenfurniture Thank you for your quick reply. Followup question: Are there a different style replacement springs that won't fall off so easily?
+Robby Crawford Not that I am aware of.
Hi, can you please give me a bit of info on this, it would be much appreciated! We have a sofa that is probably similar to this. It broke after it was only a few months old with two major splits like this on a board in the back that seems to be where all the springs are attached to, so the whole seating is falling in the back. I am not much of a carpenter and am very curious, what do you think is the likely price I'd be charged by a furniture repair company to have this 800 or so dollar couch repaired and reinforced (for heavier sitters)? Thanks so much for any guesstimate you can provide. I just have no idea what to expect if I call them, and I'd rather have a rough idea before they come over.
Nathan James Hi Nathan: It's really difficult to give you an accurate idea of cost, unfortunately not all repairs are done like the one described in the video, also labor rates can very greatly depending on location and skill level involved. Be very specific in what you want when talking to the people you have chosen to do the work. If I had to guess I would say up to around $200.00 would not be out of line, but this could go up if you are located in a large metropolitan area.
Thanks. It's Austin, TX, so it's hard to say if that's a large Metropolitan area, ha. It's a known city, but a small one.
where did you get that spring pull tool??
I want to fix my sofas which are fairly new but they are made of cheap plywood. In past months I reinforced them with steel plates long ones but now I find you cannot keep screwing into this plywood which comes apart. In the case of these sofas there is a central supporting beam running lengthwise as well, now this is going also. I suppose I must do what you have done for I see no way to repair it further now. Any advice?
Doing what I have done in the video has worked well for me on many occasions. But, there are many unique situations, but replacing with good solid hardwood and glue works most of the time. I have also been successful using bolts in areas where the wood could not hold screws.
I now found another method. Putting little plastic legs made out of stacking plastic pieces for door-stoppers that you get in B&Q levelled the sofa and then the plywood found its proper shape. That helped and is a useful trick not to change the wood.
Best advice I can give is to replace the broken part with solid hardwood. If your plywood will not hold together enough to hold screws, I have had some success using bolts.
How much does something like this cost..... cause my sofa is just like that
For the sofa, or the repair? Most repairs run somewhere between $100 to $300 depending on work required. Sofas of this quality in my location run between $900.00 to $1500.00
Could someone please tell me how difficult would be to to this by amateur?
I have quite new sofa which I really like with similar damage it's not worth for me to repair by professional but I cannot really afford to replace it at the moment.
It really depends on the ability of the amateur. You should be comfortable using power tools such as a drill for drilling and driving wood screws. You might also need to cut a board to replace one that is damaged. You will also need to buy the special clips for holding the zig zag springs in place. Without the proper tool for removing and reattaching the zig zag springs you could risk getting cut, the springs take a lot of strength to remove and replace without the aid of the special tool. It can be done, I have done it without the tool, but I would not recommend it, you really should have some strong help and take care around the sharp end of the spring. But until you actually remove the upholstery it is hard to say just what needs to be repaired.
I bought a used leather sofa for $35 and the middle sags, and the wood piece in the front is bending just like that. do you think I can do the same with my sofa?
+joanne jose Their are a couple of things you will need to make the repair, you can see me use these tools in the video, they are common tools that most people own, if they are the handy type, or easy to buy at most home stores. The most important tool and also the most difficult to obtain is the one I use to remove and install the springs. It is called a level spring bender, you can look online for one or, I can sell you one for around 40.00 bucks + shipping. A strong man can do it without the spring bender tool, but I would HIGHLY discourage it, it can be very dangerous, and some times the spring ends can be extremely sharp. They are under an enormous load when installed.
A strong man... lol... you mean a strong person
Where do you purchase new spring clips?
I buy from a wholesaler. If you need some send me an email and will be happy so sell you some.
Hey mjamsdenfurniture, do you still sell spring clips? And also what is that tool you used for the springs
this refurbishment demonstrates why we seldom buy new furniture
You are so right Helen: So many people today have forgotten that quality, although costing more in the beginning, ends up being much less expensive in the long run. Constant repair, or replacement is very expensive.
The crossmembers are made from wood. I recovered a nice Italian leather sofa with paper fiberboard crossmembers. Of course it failed.
I hate playwood and the use of staples in these couches these days what ever happened to screws and real wood being used?
what are those clips that clamp into the wood and hold the springs called?
The clips shown in the video are called G Clips. G Clips fold over onto the face of the frame. Their are also E Clips, E Clips are U shaped and attach onto the top of the frame.
ok thanks. So they both do the same job, but one of them requires nails, correct?
Stephen Gibbons
Yes, actually they both require nails. I choose to use screws for the extra holding power. Mass furniture producers used to use staples, but have recently switched to clips that have barbs build into them, so extra hardware is not needed, at the expense of a clip with less holding ability.
That explains how they blew out after only 3 years. What size/type screws should I use?
Stephen Gibbons
You can use drywall, deck screws, but most any wood screw will work. No need to have a screw so long that it protrudes through the wood, if your screw is long enough to exit the wood make sure nothing will catch on it. It is also important to remember that if screwing into plywood their is no strength in the endgain and spring clips should be anchored through the face of the wood.
got a like just for the star wars cantina music in the intro.
I've seen these types of failures a lot.
Re: Glue. You should try Franklin International's (Titebond) No-drip, No-run glue. It does a great job on end grain. And remember while half that plywood is end-grain, the other half is side grain.
Couple of quotes:
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"There is hardly anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse
and sell a little cheaper, and those people who consider price only, are this man's lawful prey. It is unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much you lose a little money - that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot; it cannot be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better"
John Ruskin (1819 - 1900)
Keith: That is a great quote! I think I will post it on my blog at mjamsdenfurniture.com
Thanks
How's the RV conversion coming along? It's been a while since I checked in on it, having given up my ever trying anything like that.
Keith Mealy
I haven't done much with it this winter, every time I spend time working on the bus I get behind around the house and at some point the house has to get caught up on LOL.
Sorry, it also a sofa bed.
Rezena: Please go to my web site mjamsdenfurniture.com and email me from their. I do not want to post my email address here to avoid tons of spam. I will try and help you as best I can.
well, at least they used plywood & not pressboard.
Hoary! LOL Actually its not really the use of plywood that is necessarily bad. Plywood used correctly can be very strong, it's the misuse of this product that causes all sorts of problems.
whoops, I meant to say:
well, at least they used plywood & not particle board/chip board/wafer board or what I like to call engineered crap board. its amazing how much of that junk gets used for furniture frames.
I agree: Nothing is made to last today, it's all throw away.
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LOL!
It seems these days all of the sofas regarding of price (in UK) are made of this cheap plywood. I suspect it is Chinese as all thing. I wonder why they cannot spend a little more money, perhaps 20 USD more to put proper wood. Why do you think this is?
If a piece of furniture is not made in an Asian country, than the larger manufactures are trying to compete with those that are. What we are witnessing is the proverbial rush to the bottom.
yes it is probably best to fix or reinforce your sofa than buy a new one. what I did? I bought plastic pieces in b&q the type used as cheap door stoppers you can get 100 of them for 6 GBP or so. I then stacked them to make extra legs so that the sofa could regain its shape. I also used a piece of laminate flooring internally with sponge upholstery material to give it more rigidity from underneath. it worked ok for my son's party. in next few days I will work on the sofas a bit more.
lol have to tell you I own this exact couch. wasnt cheap either second most expensive couch from leons. nothing but garbage
I hope you have better luck with your sofa than the owners did with this one.
+mjamsdenfurniture I dont think so. But we should get a replacement under the two year warranty. I think I will install a rollbar and replace the back and front while its structurally sound and replace the suspension.
selling secondhand makes little sense as does going out and buying something new 14 months later. so while it sucks makes good sense to reenforce it before it becomes an issue again.
ours experienced a separation from the front plywood, a collapse of one of the feet and cosmetically a sagging as well
YOUR FIXIN A CHINA COUCH
Yea gotta do what pays the bills!
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Just repaired my own sofa yesterday and was my firstime reparing a sofa had a broken beam in the same spot..... boy your music sucks you should get better video music
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