Having been an installer for a satellite provider, I about piss myself laughing every time i see one of these. HOWEVER, this is not as goofy as it sounds. I set up an antenna on a dish in the same basic manner, got it aimed in the best signal direction for the channels I wanted, and eliminated all of the interference caused by matching, weaker channels coming from the opposite direction. The dish DOES do a good job BLOCKING unwanted back signals. That's about ALL it does.
In my case, besides being a good place to mount an OTA antenna (so long as you have line of site to the towers) and coax readily available, if you have a cluster of towers on the same frequencies coming from the opposite direction, the dish works great as a blocker to them interfering with your frequencies of choice. In our case our Tampa stations and Orlando stations are almost directly 180 degrees opposite each other, but Tampa is closer and stronger and the dish completely eliminated ALL of the interference of the Orlando channels.
I think thera are a lot of mistakes in your antenna installation. I believe you were simply lucky. To check it just install your antenna in the same direction but without the dish. I believe you you will have almost the same result. There are more mistakes but i cannot explain them here. The truth is - and i thank you for that - you gave me an very nice idea! i'll try it!
Glad it worked. The only thing Ill add is the satellite in the sky and the local tv antennas are in 2 totally different spots (most of the time), unless the satellite companies are lying to us. But seriously they are pointed in 2 different directions usually. I have plans on using my satellite pole to mount mine to as well. But the dish is pointing south west and the antennas here are south east from my location. So this is a good idea to get your antenna up high with good reception and a free mount but I do believe the directions will be different in most cases.
I’ll be doing this tomorrow! For the time being, I stripped about 12 inches from a piece of coax cable and did a channel scan and picked up 72 channels. I can’t wait to see what I get when I get an actual antenna on the roof.
Wow You already have quite a few channels, I believe I only had about 23 channels before i tried this. I am curious how many channels you will get afterwards. Keep me posted:)
One piece of advise, I had many people write me to tell they had to turn the antenna to face the TV Towers, I got lucky and I did not have to turn the antenna a different direction.
I just cancelled my satellite service and bought an outdoor antenna. I will be giving your design a shot and I will update my comment to indicate the results. Thank you for the video.
@@jaredstone9487. Oh thank you so very much. I installed my antenna on my dish but had to point my dish toward some repeater antennas for my best reception. Leaving it facing towards a satellite didn’t work for me. But I did get enough channels to keep us happy and won’t have to pay $90 a month anymore . That made us really happy. I picked up 42 channels
Don't waste your time video is fake and even if it wasn't your stealing channels I don't know if it's still count if you don't have Dish or not but I would assume so since you're taking it from their satellite if it was possible
I'm gonna do just like you did, it looks so easy and I know it will work, going to use the dish previously installed on the roof. This is the easiest best video on hooking this stuff up, appreciate it!
Thank you for posting this. I was searching for a video to hook up my antenna to existing wires from my dish. I am not familiar with any of this so watching your video proved a valuable find for me 😁 I am so tired of paying the fees when I don't watch that much.
Hi Redmare I am glad my video was help to you. I have another video showing how to get thousands of free channels if you would like to see it. th-cam.com/video/6p1sKRF7hGM/w-d-xo.html
Bunch of negative nellies here. My next door neighbor did this and attached a similar antennae to her DirecTV dish. The coax was already in the house and connected to her TV so no need to run all that mess. The dish simply served as a mounting point, nothing more. Yes, they had to find tune the antennae to point in the correct direction of the over the air signal, not satellite signal which the dish was pointed at. There are multiple apps that you can put on your phone to search for signals and position the antennae that way. I guess some people are not old enough to remember the days of no cable and all you had was an old antennae that when you hooked it up it was nothing like this. You only got 3 local channels because that was all there was. VHF(ABC, NBC) AND UHF(CBS). I live in Tennessee and can get 45+ channels with my indoor antennae hooked to my TV's, however depending on which way my TV is facing it gets different signals. This idea is so much simpler and same signal will go to all TV connected. Just because he did not show you how he did something is no reason to say this is total BS. Go watch some other TH-cam videos and some of them have that detail.
Pull the dish off and use the existing J pole to mount the antenna, it's just a few nuts to loosen and it slips off. The metal dish will affect the reception of the TV channels and not in a good way. Use Antennasdirect locater tool to aim the antenna. The "better tv antenna" linked is junk as it's mostly plastic and plastic doesn't pull in RF, plus plastic gets brittle and falls apart in a few years. The first one is ok. Personally recommend the "Amazon Basics HDTV Digital Outdoor TV Antenna" (Not the plastic amplified one). The Antennas Direct 2, 4, or 8 element antennas works great for pulling in signals from far away, however they are much more expensive and if you have any VHF channels (lower frequency) in your area you will need the VHF Kit.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the satellite dish is pointed at a particular satellite orbiting the earth your new metal antenna will need to be pointed at the strongest TV station frequency which most likely won't be facing the sky
There is also a power supply that supplies the LNA that has to be removed and you’re right about the positioning I’ve never heard of picking up satellites on an antenna.
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Hey I work on satellite dishes like this, I have a few notes. Firstly, this goes without saying but you should only do this if you are no longer using that dish for TV service. This would cut of the signal from the satellite. The dish is pointed to the specific position of the satellites in orbit and not pointed towards the towers that the local channels come from. The OTA signal for your local channel stations come from a tower on the ground somewhere in your city. Generally speaking satellite dishes in the US will be pointed to the south. The OTA local channel towers are generally in the middle of the city you live in. So if you live on the south side of town you'd probably want swing the dish around to the north. The best thing to do is look up a map online of there the local channel towers are and just point that direction. You should be able to use the existing wire from the satellite to your TV, but you want to avoid any diplexers or splitters that are specific to the satellite company. you might want to replace any those those with a barrel connector or standard cable splitter. Best thing to do is trace the wire down and make sure you have as direct of a connection to the tv as possible.
This idea works great for me. I rent a house and not allowed to mount a antenna outside but because this old satellite dish on a pole remains I can however mount an aerial antenna to the dish and since that has a wire feeding into the house I won’t have to drill any holes for a new wire to go into the house. i’ve been using a window antenna and it does not work at all Half of the time but this work out great! Thanks
Chaz that is awesome, I am glad it worked for you. To be honest I did this for the same reason, I did not want to drill holes into my house so the Satellite dish wire enabled me to do this without the holes. Thanks for the comment:)
Such a great idea! I wonder if pointing at the TV towers might be better than pointing at the satellites? No matter for you though - 83 channels (and still nothing to watch).
I like that this guy actually commented on questions that are TRUE scientific facts... Satellite dishes are pointed to guess what? Omg satellites...... Let's then turn this 🎶 music up.... Sorry some know the song so play it! I like it! Anyway tv antenna don't work that way ..BUT Wait! Don't move the satellite dish that's stupid not yet anyways..... See what you get for channels first then figure out where your most populous city is close to you and that's that antennas are usually on the hills around those cities but don't do that first I think the satellite dish itself gives a lot of reception behind the antenna ... More metal works
Interesting way to do it. I had to install a J pole on the opposite side of the house from where the satellite dish was located, because the signals all come from the other side of the house. When they point a dish, it has nothing to do with local channels, and everything to do with where the satellites for their service is located.
An external antenna errected higher than the tallest part of your roof (including a chimney) in addition to free streaming services like pluto tv, xumo, and stirr is more than sufficient.
Hey buddy, I just wanna thank you for taking the time to help those that don't have the slightest idea on how to help themselves. Obviously you are not an electronics guru but you had an idea and acted on it, and it worked to some extent. That's a hell of allot better than slow roll criticizing what you've done and trying to offend you with disparaging remarks. Those types reveal way more about themselves by doing that than they could ever know. Being curious and experimenting is how we figure shit out. Anyway, good job.
Jack I want to thank you for the nice message, And yes you are right I do get some hateful remarks, My main goal of this experiment was to see if I could use the Satellite cable to get reception from the Antenna to all the rooms in my house, and it worked, and the 80 channels was just a bonus, not sure if the dish helped with this or not but again it was a bonus.. But for some reason some people feel the need to lash out at me. I know there are always going to be haters out there and Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But again I appreciate your message. :)
Thanks man! I will try on my camper with the dish on the house.Just got rid of Dish.They ripped me off.I bet I will get more channels and good mounting point.I also see on other videos you can remove the 3 bolts on stick of satellite stand and you can move dish 360.Off the grid in woods it should help.💯💥
The aerial on its own will pull in from your local TV transmitter WITHOUT the dish. The LNB you took off picks up signals from the dish from the satellite. Two different methods of broadcast. There are three types for TV. Satellite, Cable and Terrestrial / over the air. Satellite and terrestrial work on different frequencies
Hello Ralph, yes I am not sure how much the dish is helping, but my main purpose for doing this was to use the coaxial cable from the dish to get reception to all the rooms in my house. I can say I got a lot more channels after hooking the antenna to the dish.
It's more important to point the antenna at the broadcast towers than the direction your dish is pointed. You got lucky that your broadcast towers are likely south of you. My towers are north and west of me. If I pointed my antenna south I wouldn't pick up any stations, because there are no broadcast towers at sea.
I have a degree in electronics and experience installing satellite TV. This will eliminate any satellite reception and about 1 in 36 chance that you will have your antenna pointed in the right direction. You would be well off to remove the satellite dish to eliminate wind loading.
While I am on antenna, there are some misconceptions in this video. You are only going to get as many channels as are available in your area. I only get 30 channels because that is the amount available.
The reflector of a satellite dish is not going to aid a UHF VHF antenna in the slightest. If you don't want to take the dish down, just replace it's LNB with a $9 FTA lnb and get yourself a FTA reciever box for $40. You can tune to a bunch of satellites using KU band as the dish is made for.
I live in NE Texas in the country and I have a basic air antenna thats mounted 30' high and facing SE (my only option) and I get only 8 channels facing Tyler but on a good day maybe 13 some signals coming out of Shreveport. There's no way you would get that many channels using the direction of a former Sat service. Chances are you live in a large city that may have 7 local stations. It is a known fact that digital stations lower their power in the evenings which lessens the strenght of said signal. And on windy days or during storms Im lucky to get 3 channels. So for what you are saying I have to call BS on it.
I agree he just got lucky that the local TV tower that transmitts just happened to be in that direction you may have to adjust antenna to find your local TV tower
For those that claim it has nothing to do with it. The dish is the reflector that asks as the ground plane to reflect the signal back to the antenna. It works the same way as when the LAN is on it getting SAT TV. Notice the LAN is not facing the southwest sky but the dish is because the dish reflects the signal back.
I drove semi gone all week for 15 years, The first thing I did , when parking, is see if I could scan in some tv channels . I noticed if a semi was parked alongside me on the correct side it would act as a reflector and I would get more stations. Even some OTA antenna's have a wire grid for reflecting more signal back to the antenna. Now retired I use an old small dish network dish I purchased in 2005, sold at pilot truck stops back then . behind my out side antenna with out it channels aren't good enough in the day time to watch as I'm 45 miles out of a city
The only part of this video that is correct is that you can put up an antenna and get free over the air tv but the dish doesn't help any. The dish pointed up toward the satellites it picked up the signal from so if you picked up stations in the direction the dish pointed you were just lucky the stations happened to be in that direction. I would expect that the dish behind the antenna would reflect the signal causing signal cancellation.
Notice the shape of the dish, which is designed to get a signal from one direction and amplify it VS. the shape of the antenna which is designed to get signals from any direction. SMH at the people who fell for this. The dish is off and doing nothing but acting as a mount point (and he is reusing it's wires).
@@zathras11b53 He said to position the antenna in the same direction as the dish because the people that put in the dish knew which direction to get the best signal. Satellite dish is pointed at the satellite which has nothing to do with the direction Over the air stations come from. OTA stations can come from many directions or one direction depending only on what direction the tower the signal is coming from. I live in an area where stations come from multiple directions. He was just lucky that pointing the antenna in the direction the dish mount was in happened to be close enough to the right direction that it worked well for the stations he got but He might have been able to get more stations if he had a rotor to point the antenna at other stations. This depends on whether the stations he could pick up all came from one major city rather than multiple citys.The tv antenna he used is directional and is not designed to pick up stations from all directions which is why rotors are used to point the antenna at the tv tower the station is coming from. I have a round tv antenna that is supposed to pick up stations in all directions but it doesn't do as well in some directions even after turning it to work as well as possible.
Like mine , luckily the dish is pointed towards our broadcast stations 50 to 60 miles away . I put ours in my attic just to see how many channels we could get . When we drop dish network I’m moving the antenna to the where the dish is and using the cables that are already ran to each room in the house . I believe that’s what the poster wanted to show .
Satellite signals are on a different frequency than land over the air TV channels are. Satellite signals are much higher that bounce off the dish into the receiver at the middle. TV free tv channels are on a lower frequency that do not bounce instead penetrate so the dish isn't why you're getting the station. I have the same antenna you are using and it's a very good antenna.
I completed my task and attached an aftermarket TV antenna to my existing decommissioned Direct TV satellite dish. It was very easy and cost only a few bucks for some zip ties. I was able to use the antenna for my upstairs office TV as well because Direct TV had already run cables to each room in the house. I’m happy with the outcome and highly recommend this for anyone who wants to recycle their existing satellite dish.
Ok I did this The idea is solid u should also invest in a signal meter, and make sure to point towards Transmitter grouding is a must and after my install I did a couple of things you might do 1 moved the dish location for line of site 2 i sed a channel master antenna combiner and added an antenna on top of the yagi to have another antenna facing damb near the closer tower wich can be independantly moved ans a preamp on it as well as a G.E 4 output amp for the house you dont really need any active element on the dish, but again ir should be grounded If. I had a tree n some power transformersn real close so I knew this Cluster would be noisey not to forget the cell towers that are in the way. So I put an inactive. Preamp on the Yagi by itself for filterring as much as I could cell noise n C.B radio also in the line of sight. I can tell when this guy is on because its visably screwing up my Fox channel. But everything else comes in and i do get a few channels more relliably than i did before. Im in a mobile park that has rules that bar me from using my own roof they said you can have the round ones so. I used to put antenna on top of kithchen cabinet and the cats kept knocking it down I thought I had gremlins ? , but if you dont like spending on a 2 or 3 hundred dollars all in one that i knew Id get sued over, this is a cheap, but effective way to enjoy the monthly bills dissappearing. I thought about some reflective tape for the Parabola another 25.00 simple add on . Of course there are options with my antenna cluster, and if your cosiderring doing this the results far outweighs the costs. Ive been laughing like a madman ever since this video came out, becase it does really work , Happy T.V to all interested in cable cutting May the T.V force be with you. Thanks
best about using Satelitte dish is u can use the cables for an ANT and if u do go back ..you'll have 2 cable lines to choose from ANT and SAT - as the new instillation provides new cables, and not allowed to use the old,is what im doing, plus when bad weather and SAt goes out, dish charges 12 a mth for local, so having an ANT saves that each mth ...DirectTv gives some local added to the charge, and only comes in if the SAT is working in good weather, dont pay ur bill Local channels are gone also, it pays to have an ANT installed, if nothing else use for your home FM/am stereo - edit thanks for sharing this, this is what ill be doing till Direct tv hooks me up next week, right now with Dish and they went up after 2 yrs, 40.00 overnight to 140.00 a mth- so switching back to Direct,for under 100.00 ... but if i can get used to the ANT channels I'm going to cancel Direct is my goal
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@@ItsMe-rl7ex I went up under the house where they attached the ground on a clamp, I went to tighten it up, it shocked me like a 110 v !!.. It wasn't even tightened up, and the connectors was barely hand tightened and instead of drilling a hole in the floor they drilled into the side of the house and ran one cord that way for the living room, and tacked the wire with one U nail plastic clap thingie, the rest was just dangling on a round wad… I always get bad installers and have to fix, I learned how to fix everything, which is the positive I guess - but yes, U have to have that meter to get a good signal, it rains there goes the sat.. im sick of it and the expense..when Direct gets installed I will make sure to show me this time, thanks for the reminder :)
Amen. The dish itself does nothing to improve the signal or bring in more signals, it will however block weaker, interfering signals coming from other direction that can reduce the quality of the signals you are trying to pick up. It acts as an isolation deviece.
I recommend a professional antenna installer or maybe a ham radio operator. There is a lot Todd understood about antennas and the behavior of the transmitted signal. And these new TVs that are super slow to show results of adjustments.
Just use the antenna that was used 20 years ago. You will be surprised what it picks up. I would remove the dish and use a telescoping mast and use a UHF antenna you can also add elements to pick up VHF with little problems. If you are close enough to the stations you can pick up most stations. Some are weaker than others and you may need a booster amplifier I found that out my booster amplifier wasn't on I did a rescan after I turned on the booster amplifier and got three times as much stations. My antenna is in the attic because we get lots of storms and the sun is hard on the plastic on the antenna. The Florida sun is hard on antenna hardware. Even the cables get dry rotted if left out in the sun. 73
I used to work for a company that manufacture antennas. Many of the things you have shown are quite interesting. I used to use as a XXX Model machine to print out a Standing wave ratio. Also with a push of a button, I could tell if I was Target on. If she didn't want to retire this was the direction I was trying to show her. Look @ all of the dishes so many providers leave on so many peoples houses. Look @ rental properties alone. All I'm saying is all we needed was a splitter. To go from room to room to house to house. When they charge you more than what you use, come on? Where are our elected officials on this???
God bless you brother! Brilliant! Genius and how rad you are to share this ….most people I know here in crappy Los Angeles…….never share cool ideas……. sharing is cari g bro! We salute u! Good luck from all over, in your life , is gifting you…………cheers bro! \m/-_-
Hello my friend I want to apologize for this late reply to your comment. I do not get on here everyday like I should. I appreciate your kind words and I am glad you liked my video. Cheers:)
The dish is no longer connected to the tv. The antenna is pulling in the stations from the towers not the satellite. The number of stations vary depending on the terrain and the tv stations in your area. All he did was use the cable which goes to all the tvs in your house.
I'm very glad it really worked for you Sir in getting a whole lot of TV Channels & I live in New Zealand & the SKY Satellite Dish is not Facing toward our VHF / UHF Signal as the SKY Satellite Dish is completely facing the opposite way & I would have to do a modify the mounting pole so the TV Antenna would be in line with the VHF/UHF TV Signal or wouldn't matter & my UHF Antenna is a very very long & it is the longest UHF you can get & I used to work for TV Antenna Company & that's when I brought my 2 UHF & 1 VHF Antenna but later down the track the TV Antenna Company Closed Down which was a shame & my big VHF Antenna got damaged & one of the Very Very London UHF Antenna got damaged to & so I only have One good UHF that is work good & my son Regan works with a Double Glazing Company & takes the old Aliuminum windows & doors out of houses & replacing them with Double Glazed Windows & Doors & he brings the old Aliuminum windows doors home for me to strip down & some of the old Aliuminum windows that I strip down & I have got flat a good Aliuminum pieces to repair the broken reflector on the UHF Antenna replace with Flat Aluminum Pieces instead of trying to repair the mesh that was a reflector on the UHF TV Antenna & having Flat Aliuminum Pieces should work better than having a metal Mesh Reflector & the problem I'm going to have to do to the Aliuminum Pieces I will have to get a tin of paint stripper to get the powder coat paint off the Flat Pieces of Aluminum &.once I have done that I can start making up the 2 reflectors one for top reflector & one for the bottom of the reflector & I also have to make up some elements & get a box & I already have a New balum & quite a bit RG6 Coaxial Cable to screw the RG6 to the Diaplexer & the other end to the F connector & screw that to the balum & the UHF TV Antenna should work again like a New UHF TV Antenna & if I should get more Flat Aliuminum Pieces I will make up a fairly large VHF TV Antenna & have all the other bits & Pieces to put it all together & have it working well again & it will last for years as the flat Aluminum Pieces are fairly thick to & hopefully I can get some more Flat Aliuminum Pieces & I have enough here now to make a VHF TV Antenna & then I wouldn't have enough Flat Aluminum Pieces to repair the UHF TV Antenna & at the moment I would rather fix the UHF TV Antenna Kind Regards Peter
Our cable company is eliminating cable. So I plan on using the cable coax to all my TVs. I plan on trying a flat panel indoor antenna along with an amplifier to boost the signal strength. You did’t need a RF filter or amplifier?
Just use the coax wire and the mount from the dish. The dish is actually pointing to a satellite orbiting the earth, so it will not help with over-the-air signal. It may actually cause an interference with the signal.
what I was looking for was using the dish as a antenna reflector its not hooked up to your outdoor antenna its reflecting the signal to the antenna to make it stronger I was looking for a video to see if it actually works.( using a dish as a reflector.)
Or you can remove the dish and use the J pole already there holding the Dish. I just removed mine, but plan to increase the J pole height with another pole.
To know where to point the antenna there are Android phone apps to show you where the towers are. One is antenna point or DTV antennas. Using the satellite cable is good because is already set up to the interior of the house, but if anything keep the dishes "J" pole, can always mount the antenna on that.
Reading the comments. Guys the dish has nothing to do with his over the air antenna. All he did was use their existing cable off dish that is tie into his house cable wiring.
I’m a DirecTV tech and I find this funny. He’s just utilizing the line from the dish because I’m sure everyone of his rooms are tied to our DirecTV splitter
The dish can be used as a reflector in that way, but that needs to be tuned to a specific channel frequency. Reflectors are good if tuned correctly, but reduce signal if tuned wrong. The tuning is simply the spacing between the driven element and the reflector (dish) to result in a constructive reflected signal. Note that high frequency UHF channels are rapidly disappearing and a dish reflector becomes less and less useful at lower frequencies. The dish can also be used to block an unwanted back side channel that causes interference.
sigh! The Dish is pointed toward where the Dish Satellite is going to be while in geo-stationary orbit around the Earth. You want to point the TV Antenna in the direction of your local, earth-bound, TV Stations' towers. If they are in the same direction, you just got lucky... Also, this only works for every room in the house that has ALREADY BEEN WIRED to the dish antenna. Also, usually, only the X.1 channels are HD- all the sub-channels (X.2, X.3, X.4, etc...) are the older SD video resolution, and usually show older programming because of that. Lastly, if you are close enough, with little in the way of obstruction, you can get away with a cheap, no-name antenna- shoot, even using a coat hanger would work! But the further out you are, you are better off with a name-brand antenna, like Winegard or Antennas Direct. In this case, though, the Satellite Dish may be acting as a reflector for the TV antenna, so may be boosting the signal a small bit. As a side note- if you don't already have your home wired from a previous installation, you can also use something like a Tablo device, which has 2-4 built-in tuners, attaches to your TV antenna, then sends the OTA Signal to any streaming device you have connected to your TV (Roku, Firestick, etc...). The Tablo can also record OTA broadcasts with an optional Hard Drive.
Thanks for the heads up on Tablo. I've always read that the signal from OTA is "pure" and better than streaming. Will a Tablo take away some of that quality? (my video quality knowledge is minimal)
@@martinmuecke2791 No, the Tablo can be set up to stream and/or record at 720p or 1080. I like it, even with some minor issues. It loads slowly, to create a buffer for recording. You have to have an internet connection. The Guide is only 24 hours ahead for the free version- but the 2-week guide is for a lifetime subscription at least. There is also a 3rd party Windows Program that can pull the Tablo recordings from the hard drive and put them on your computer in an MP4 format. Some version of the Table come with a built-in hard drive, some you buy your own- I prefer the latter, as you can usually find a larger one for a little cheaper. Lastly, and this probably won't really be an issue for most, but they are coming out with a newer version that will have an ATSC 3.0 tuner, for latest broadcast standard that will roll out over the next few years.
Hello I am sorry for late reply, Yes getting on the roof to do this is no easy task. I recommend hiring a handyman if you are not comfortable doing this.
It's got to say thank you man for the great tip because I was trying to think about a way to mess with my old dish antenna and you gave me the perfect way to do it so thank you so very much keep doing what you're doing you're amazing man.
This doesn't work you can not point you ordinary TV antenna in space cuz my dish is mounted on the ground and pick up channels this does not work not here in Wisconsin evidently since you live in California you're pulling yours from the TV Tower you're not pulling them from space
You're really just using the satellite mast to hold your OTA antenna. You still need to point the OTA antenna towards the broadcast towers. I just removed the dish entirely and used the mast to mount the antenna... and positioned it.
I took off all the dish parts stuck a metal pipe 7 ft long in the dish mast and drilled some screws to center it and secure it, Used same cables into the house but had to change the dish splitter to a another splitter and got antenna wired to 3 rooms.
I used to install dishes all way to 3 meter size and spent 20 years as system tech with spectrum my RF KNOWLEDGE is rather extensive and all you did was added additional reflection/ focus element to your " cheap " Walmart antenna in a sense just amplifying the receivable channels the next advantage you have is you probably live in metro area or closely clustered cities In my case the closest transmit station is 80 miles away on the other side of glacier created rim or in a sense I live in deep bowl the closest city only has 4 net works ( with digital rulings each may have as few as 2 or three channels to 12 channels each due compression That " dish is not an active antenna just paraboliç reflector
So does the dish actually focus transmissions onto the antenna to enhance reception or is it just being used as a a mount? You absolutely must aim the antenna at the borodcast antennas.
Your dish will be pointed to the satalite's geo stationary orbital position. If that's the same direction as your broadcast towers you are lucky. I'm my case a direct tv or dish network dish would point south west but the broadcast tv towers are to the northwest where I live. I do like his use of the dish in the set up. It seems like it would work as a reflector to collect some additional signal for his antenna. The roof location is ideal as well.
Hello and thanks for the comment. Yes I do think the dish is giving me better signal, and hooking it up to the dish cable wire allowed me to get the channels in every room. It worked for me. Good luck:)
I think Michael is correct at his presumption of the dish being aimed at the satellites and the need to change its direction toward the transmitters of the over the air stations. Most area TV stations will use the same general location for the best broadcast signal.
@Matt Quinn I would have probably not done what he did but it worked for him. I would have taken the dish off and used the J pole mount the dish was on to mount the antenna and the cable. then aim to the correct azimuth for the broadcast towers.
Yes, he got lucky, the location of the geostationary sattelites and consequential orientation of the dish set up has nothing to do with what direction local OTA tv transmitters are located.
I thought a satellite dish is pointed towards the satellite (towards the sky) and the shape of the dish direct the signal towards the reciever? If so, then shouldn't the dish now be directed towards the horizon and in the direction of a TV tower? (dallas in my case) Seems to me that it would work better.
Depends on where the majority of ota antennas are relative to your houses location will be the determination of if you have to move the dish. Where I live the dish points south and the OTA antenna is nw. One has nothing to do with the other so the statement you made that you won't have to move it is incorrect!
You’re totally incorrect on how to point that antenna. The satellite dish is pointed in the correct direction for satellite TV channels. The local channels unlike satellite channels aren’t being bounced off a satellite in space. For best reception, you’re supposed to point the antenna in the direction of the local stations’ broadcast towers. Also, there’s no point in actually keeping the dish. Just unbolt the entire dish off the dish mount and bolt the antenna there instead.
Actually he was clever of mounting it in front of the dish. As I have been experimenting with my old dish by putting an antenna in front of it, it actually boosts the signal significantly by reflecting it back to the antenna from behind. I thing he would actually loose alot of channels by removing the dish as it works as an reflector. He would probably get even more channels if he turned the antenna toward the direction they are broadcasting from.
@@thepicard83 but it also depends on your area. All of the towers in your area may be scattered around your location and the dish could "block" the signals from towers in that direction (reduce their strength, actually). So while it may be an advantage for towers that your dish is pointing towards, everyone's mileage may vary.
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It was totally coincidental that your dish was pointed in the "correct" direction; your broadcast signals must be coming relatively from the south, assuming you live in the northern hemisphere (because that's where satellite antennas are pointed - toward the equator). It served no purpose other than to provide a place to mount your new antenna, which is pointing AWAY from the dish; the antenna was doing ALL the work.
My main concern would be whether or not the antenna is grounded. I’m assuming the satellite dish is, after professional installation. Here, the same cable is connected to the antenna, so, would it be grounded?
I may or may not be. If he is connecting it to the same coaxial cable that the sat dish uses then it probably is. Coax is usually gorunded through the splitter that comes from the antenna or sat dish and splits into the whole house. If you are only connecting to one TV then there are grounding blocks that can be used. Super cheap and easy to install. Just like a splitter but it's 1-1 pass through with a screw to connect a grounding wire just like on the splitter.
Place a rabbit ears along with a leaf antenna in front of the dish and connect them to a two way splitter outputs so that they feed into the input from inside and that is your one out capturing signals into the one line. That's seems to work
Just dying inside. CABLE companies do not install dishes, it is the competition. The better use would be to remove the dish from the "arm" of the mount and put your antenna on it. LOL
Can you explain how can have 2 reflectors. The dish is a reflector and the large element of the antenna is other reflector. In addition to his can a reflector for milimétric waves be usefull for decimetrica waves like the digital TV. If you have good signal strength in your area with a fish hook and a wire you can receive this decimetric signals. The sat dish is useless in this configuration.
Hi Juan, I am not exactly sure if the satellite dish itself is helping me. I do know I am getting way more channels with the antenna on the dish. My main objective was to use the dish cable going into my house so I can get reception in all my rooms of my house. It worked great
Wow these comments are stupid. This has nothing to do with the satellite dish. He installed the antenna using the existing satellite infrastructure. This is a BIG DEAL because that meant no drilling holes in the roof or running new wires.
Hey bro I have been meaning to say thank you for your comment and your observation. You are right my main purpose was to see if I could use the Sat. cable to get reception in all the rooms in my house and it did work. But I have learned that not everyone sees my video in the same way, and that is ok, I welcome everyones point of view. Thanks again:)
direct tv at my location points dish to the southwest. all my st. louis stations come from the south east at 126 to 142 degrees. so I would have to re orient my dish .
Best to add a one to three foot pole to that mount to get the antenna high enough to eliminate any likely interference caused by the roof blocking the signals.
Thank you all the haters just have to hate. Buy leaving the dish at-least you don't have to take it to a recycling center and you just have to loosen a few bolts to adjust it where you want it.
2 questions: 1. how many stations would you get without the Dish antenna normally? and 2. The Dish would have been pointed optimally for Satelite reception, not aerial readio frequency, so how since making the video have you found a better direction for your reception??
I did this it works great I leave in California. It's weird I even got signals far beyond tv signals. More like space satellite 🛰 not sure if I should be saying anything about this, I don't want to get in trouble with the government 🤔
The man just reinvented or updated/upgraded tv reception, congratulations!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻To the detractors, it works.
Hi Anon I just realized I do not think I ever thanked you for the awesome comment. That was definitely one of the best comments I have had. 😀
Having been an installer for a satellite provider, I about piss myself laughing every time i see one of these. HOWEVER, this is not as goofy as it sounds. I set up an antenna on a dish in the same basic manner, got it aimed in the best signal direction for the channels I wanted, and eliminated all of the interference caused by matching, weaker channels coming from the opposite direction. The dish DOES do a good job BLOCKING unwanted back signals. That's about ALL it does.
He primarily used the dish for a mount but mostly to use the dish's coaxial which is already ran to his t v sets
What frequency
In my case, besides being a good place to mount an OTA antenna (so long as you have line of site to the towers) and coax readily available, if you have a cluster of towers on the same frequencies coming from the opposite direction, the dish works great as a blocker to them interfering with your frequencies of choice. In our case our Tampa stations and Orlando stations are almost directly 180 degrees opposite each other, but Tampa is closer and stronger and the dish completely eliminated ALL of the interference of the Orlando channels.
I think thera are a lot of mistakes in your antenna installation. I believe you were simply lucky. To check it just install your antenna in the same direction but without the dish. I believe you you will have almost the same result. There are more mistakes but i cannot explain them here. The truth is - and i thank you for that - you gave me an very nice idea! i'll try it!
Glad it worked. The only thing Ill add is the satellite in the sky and the local tv antennas are in 2 totally different spots (most of the time), unless the satellite companies are lying to us. But seriously they are pointed in 2 different directions usually. I have plans on using my satellite pole to mount mine to as well. But the dish is pointing south west and the antennas here are south east from my location. So this is a good idea to get your antenna up high with good reception and a free mount but I do believe the directions will be different in most cases.
I’ll be doing this tomorrow! For the time being, I stripped about 12 inches from a piece of coax cable and did a channel scan and picked up 72 channels. I can’t wait to see what I get when I get an actual antenna on the roof.
Wow You already have quite a few channels, I believe I only had about 23 channels before i tried this. I am curious how many channels you will get afterwards. Keep me posted:)
One piece of advise, I had many people write me to tell they had to turn the antenna to face the TV Towers, I got lucky and I did not have to turn the antenna a different direction.
I just cancelled my satellite service and bought an outdoor antenna. I will be giving your design a shot and I will update my comment to indicate the results. Thank you for the video.
Neat update
@@jaredstone9487. Oh thank you so very much. I installed my antenna on my dish but had to point my dish toward some repeater antennas for my best reception. Leaving it facing towards a satellite didn’t work for me. But I did get enough channels to keep us happy and won’t have to pay $90 a month anymore . That made us really happy. I picked up 42 channels
Don't waste your time video is fake and even if it wasn't your stealing channels I don't know if it's still count if you don't have Dish or not but I would assume so since you're taking it from their satellite if it was possible
@@higurashianduminekoconnect1702 Over the air TV is free. Not stealing anything. But you are correct in that this doesn’t work and the video is fake
I'm gonna do just like you did, it looks so easy and I know it will work, going to use the dish previously installed on the roof. This is the easiest best video on hooking this stuff up, appreciate it!
Nick thanks for the comment and the compliment. Give it a try and let me know how it goes:)
2 years ago I suppose you learned this doesn't actually work huh.
Thank you for posting this. I was searching for a video to hook up my antenna to existing wires from my dish. I am not familiar with any of this so watching your video proved a valuable find for me 😁
I am so tired of paying the fees when I don't watch that much.
Hi Redmare I am glad my video was help to you. I have another video showing how to get thousands of free channels if you would like to see it. th-cam.com/video/6p1sKRF7hGM/w-d-xo.html
Bunch of negative nellies here. My next door neighbor did this and attached a similar antennae to her DirecTV dish. The coax was already in the house and connected to her TV so no need to run all that mess. The dish simply served as a mounting point, nothing more. Yes, they had to find tune the antennae to point in the correct direction of the over the air signal, not satellite signal which the dish was pointed at. There are multiple apps that you can put on your phone to search for signals and position the antennae that way. I guess some people are not old enough to remember the days of no cable and all you had was an old antennae that when you hooked it up it was nothing like this. You only got 3 local channels because that was all there was. VHF(ABC, NBC) AND UHF(CBS). I live in Tennessee and can get 45+ channels with my indoor antennae hooked to my TV's, however depending on which way my TV is facing it gets different signals. This idea is so much simpler and same signal will go to all TV connected. Just because he did not show you how he did something is no reason to say this is total BS. Go watch some other TH-cam videos and some of them have that detail.
Hello thank you for your comment :)
Pull the dish off and use the existing J pole to mount the antenna, it's just a few nuts to loosen and it slips off. The metal dish will affect the reception of the TV channels and not in a good way. Use Antennasdirect locater tool to aim the antenna. The "better tv antenna" linked is junk as it's mostly plastic and plastic doesn't pull in RF, plus plastic gets brittle and falls apart in a few years. The first one is ok. Personally recommend the "Amazon Basics HDTV Digital Outdoor TV Antenna" (Not the plastic amplified one). The Antennas Direct 2, 4, or 8 element antennas works great for pulling in signals from far away, however they are much more expensive and if you have any VHF channels (lower frequency) in your area you will need the VHF Kit.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the satellite dish is pointed at a particular satellite orbiting the earth your new metal antenna will need to be pointed at the strongest TV station frequency which most likely won't be facing the sky
re point the dish fool
There is also a power supply that supplies the LNA that has to be removed and you’re right about the positioning I’ve never heard of picking up satellites on an antenna.
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Hey I want to say thank you for the nice comment. I am glad I was able to give you some good ideas. 😃
Hey I work on satellite dishes like this, I have a few notes.
Firstly, this goes without saying but you should only do this if you are no longer using that dish for TV service. This would cut of the signal from the satellite.
The dish is pointed to the specific position of the satellites in orbit and not pointed towards the towers that the local channels come from. The OTA signal for your local channel stations come from a tower on the ground somewhere in your city. Generally speaking satellite dishes in the US will be pointed to the south. The OTA local channel towers are generally in the middle of the city you live in. So if you live on the south side of town you'd probably want swing the dish around to the north. The best thing to do is look up a map online of there the local channel towers are and just point that direction.
You should be able to use the existing wire from the satellite to your TV, but you want to avoid any diplexers or splitters that are specific to the satellite company. you might want to replace any those those with a barrel connector or standard cable splitter. Best thing to do is trace the wire down and make sure you have as direct of a connection to the tv as possible.
Good stuff buddy, thanks for knowledge
This idea works great for me. I rent a house and not allowed to mount a antenna outside but because this old satellite dish on a pole remains I can however mount an aerial antenna to the dish and since that has a wire feeding into the house I won’t have to drill any holes for a new wire to go into the house. i’ve been using a window antenna and it does not work at all Half of the time but this work out great! Thanks
Chaz that is awesome, I am glad it worked for you. To be honest I did this for the same reason, I did not want to drill holes into my house so the Satellite dish wire enabled me to do this without the holes. Thanks for the comment:)
Such a great idea! I wonder if pointing at the TV towers might be better than pointing at the satellites? No matter for you though - 83 channels (and still nothing to watch).
Thanks buddy, yes I had many people point that out. You are probably right. It just seemed to work for me to point it the same way as the dish
Thank you for trying. I am glad that it worked for you. I am anxious to get rid of this $262/mo. Direct TV bill.
Hi Hector, thanks for the comment, you have the same motivation that I had, I wanted to get rid of my tv bill.
the dish is positioned according to satellite position in space , not broadcast towers on the ground.
True, at has nothing to do with towers
I like that this guy actually commented on questions that are TRUE scientific facts... Satellite dishes are pointed to guess what? Omg satellites...... Let's then turn this 🎶 music up.... Sorry some know the song so play it! I like it! Anyway tv antenna don't work that way ..BUT Wait! Don't move the satellite dish that's stupid not yet anyways..... See what you get for channels first then figure out where your most populous city is close to you and that's that antennas are usually on the hills around those cities but don't do that first I think the satellite dish itself gives a lot of reception behind the antenna ... More metal works
Interesting way to do it.
I had to install a J pole on the opposite side of the house from where the satellite dish was located, because the signals all come from the other side of the house.
When they point a dish, it has nothing to do with local channels, and everything to do with where the satellites for their service is located.
Im doing it Itsa great idea , although you should aim the antenna at the direction of known TV Towers.
thanks buddy good luck
Just awesome, I recently dropped dish and been looking at options. Going the route you took, Thanks for sharing
An external antenna errected higher than the tallest part of your roof (including a chimney) in addition to free streaming services like pluto tv, xumo, and stirr is more than sufficient.
Thanks buddy, good luck
My husband and I did exactly the way you showed. I am thrilled. Thank you.
Hi Kinney thank you for letting me know this worked for you. I am happy I could help😊
The dish isn't doing anything for you. It is off. The antenna is doing all the work. The headline is clickbait.
Hey buddy, I just wanna thank you for taking the time to help those that don't have the slightest idea on how to help themselves. Obviously you are not an electronics guru but you had an idea and acted on it, and it worked to some extent. That's a hell of allot better than slow roll criticizing what you've done and trying to offend you with disparaging remarks. Those types reveal way more about themselves by doing that than they could ever know. Being curious and experimenting is how we figure shit out. Anyway, good job.
Jack I want to thank you for the nice message, And yes you are right I do get some hateful remarks, My main goal of this experiment was to see if I could use the Satellite cable to get reception from the Antenna to all the rooms in my house, and it worked, and the 80 channels was just a bonus, not sure if the dish helped with this or not but again it was a bonus.. But for some reason some people feel the need to lash out at me. I know there are always going to be haters out there and Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But again I appreciate your message. :)
Thanks man! I will try on my camper with the dish on the house.Just got rid of Dish.They ripped me off.I bet I will get more channels and good mounting point.I also see on other videos you can remove the 3 bolts on stick of satellite stand and you can move dish 360.Off the grid in woods it should help.💯💥
Hello and thank you for the comment:)
The aerial on its own will pull in from your local TV transmitter WITHOUT the dish. The LNB you took off picks up signals from the dish from the satellite. Two different methods of broadcast. There are three types for TV. Satellite, Cable and Terrestrial / over the air. Satellite and terrestrial work on different frequencies
Thanks for your comment
Thanks man, I've seen these ads before but never knew how they did it. Again THANKS.
John you are very welcome, I am glad you enjoyed my video. God Bless
The dish as nothing to do with the antenna's reception. It just makes a convenient place to mount it.
Hello Ralph, yes I am not sure how much the dish is helping, but my main purpose for doing this was to use the coaxial cable from the dish to get reception to all the rooms in my house. I can say I got a lot more channels after hooking the antenna to the dish.
This is very interesting! Btw, your living room wall behind your tv, yep.. great minds think alike! Same here!
Hey thanks for the compliment buddy. I actually stained all those wood peices on the wall by hand.
It's more important to point the antenna at the broadcast towers than the direction your dish is pointed.
You got lucky that your broadcast towers are likely south of you. My towers are north and west of me.
If I pointed my antenna south I wouldn't pick up any stations, because there are no broadcast towers at sea.
I have a degree in electronics and experience installing satellite TV. This will eliminate any satellite reception and about 1 in 36 chance that you will have your antenna pointed in the right direction. You would be well off to remove the satellite dish to eliminate wind loading.
While I am on antenna, there are some misconceptions in this video. You are only going to get as many channels as are available in your area. I only get 30 channels because that is the amount available.
Greg thanks for your comment:)
Great Antenna and Instructions...
Pics are clear...Thanks
So you tried this method and it worked?
The reflector of a satellite dish is not going to aid a UHF VHF antenna in the slightest. If you don't want to take the dish down, just replace it's LNB with a $9 FTA lnb and get yourself a FTA reciever box for $40. You can tune to a bunch of satellites using KU band as the dish is made for.
I live in NE Texas in the country and I have a basic air antenna thats mounted 30' high and facing SE (my only option) and I get only 8 channels facing Tyler but on a good day maybe 13 some signals coming out of Shreveport. There's no way you would get that many channels using the direction of a former Sat service. Chances are you live in a large city that may have 7 local stations. It is a known fact that digital stations lower their power in the evenings which lessens the strenght of said signal. And on windy days or during storms Im lucky to get 3 channels.
So for what you are saying I have to call BS on it.
Placing the antenna in the same direction as the satellite has nothing to do with OTA signal.
What does OTA Signal mean.
@@Whitebear80 Over The Air
I agree he just got lucky that the local TV tower that transmitts just happened to be in that direction you may have to adjust antenna to find your local TV tower
For those that claim it has nothing to do with it. The dish is the reflector that asks as the ground plane to reflect the signal back to the antenna. It works the same way as when the LAN is on it getting SAT TV. Notice the LAN is not facing the southwest sky but the dish is because the dish reflects the signal back.
@@jamieschlesinger7602 My dish points south, but the OTA antenna farm in my city is West of me. How is that supposed to work?
I drove semi gone all week for 15 years, The first thing I did , when parking, is see if I could scan in some tv channels . I noticed if a semi was parked alongside me on the correct side it would act as a reflector and I would get more stations. Even some OTA antenna's have a wire grid for reflecting more signal back to the antenna. Now retired I use an old small dish network dish I purchased in 2005, sold at pilot truck stops back then . behind my out side antenna with out it channels aren't good enough in the day time to watch as I'm 45 miles out of a city
The only part of this video that is correct is that you can put up an antenna and get free over the air tv but the dish doesn't help any. The dish pointed up toward the satellites it picked up the signal from so if you picked up stations in the direction the dish pointed you were just lucky the stations happened to be in that direction. I would expect that the dish behind the antenna would reflect the signal causing signal cancellation.
Notice the shape of the dish, which is designed to get a signal from one direction and amplify it VS. the shape of the antenna which is designed to get signals from any direction. SMH at the people who fell for this. The dish is off and doing nothing but acting as a mount point (and he is reusing it's wires).
@@zathras11b53 He said to position the antenna in the same direction as the dish because the people that put in the dish knew which direction to get the best signal. Satellite dish is pointed at the satellite which has nothing to do with the direction Over the air stations come from. OTA stations can come from many directions or one direction depending only on what direction the tower the signal is coming from. I live in an area where stations come from multiple directions. He was just lucky that pointing the antenna in the direction the dish mount was in happened to be close enough to the right direction that it worked well for the stations he got but He might have been able to get more stations if he had a rotor to point the antenna at other stations. This depends on whether the stations he could pick up all came from one major city rather than multiple citys.The tv antenna he used is directional and is not designed to pick up stations from all directions which is why rotors are used to point the antenna at the tv tower the station is coming from. I have a round tv antenna that is supposed to pick up stations in all directions but it doesn't do as well in some directions even after turning it to work as well as possible.
Awesome video going to do this with my antenna I got from Amazon can’t wait
Hey thanks buddy, good luck
Like mine , luckily the dish is pointed towards our broadcast stations 50 to 60 miles away . I put ours in my attic just to see how many channels we could get . When we drop dish network I’m moving the antenna to the where the dish is and using the cables that are already ran to each room in the house . I believe that’s what the poster wanted to show .
Hi Mark, just want to say thanks for the great comment:)
Satellite signals are on a different frequency than land over the air TV channels are. Satellite signals are much higher that bounce off the dish into the receiver at the middle. TV free tv channels are on a lower frequency that do not bounce instead penetrate so the dish isn't why you're getting the station. I have the same antenna you are using and it's a very good antenna.
I have the same. I pick up the hard one, PBS and it's 4 hours away.
Q: you pointed antenna at the satellite that the dish was using and not in the direction of local broadcast towers?
Awesome man great idea. I know what I’m doing on the weekend. Thank you for the tutorial.
Any time!
I completed my task and attached an aftermarket TV antenna to my existing decommissioned Direct TV satellite dish. It was very easy and cost only a few bucks for some zip ties. I was able to use the antenna for my upstairs office TV as well because Direct TV had already run cables to each room in the house. I’m happy with the outcome and highly recommend this for anyone who wants to recycle their existing satellite dish.
@@gregory8777 Awesome good job buddy:)
the satellite dish is aimed at satellites, the uhf/vhf antenna needs to be aimed at the broadcast antenna.
Agree. I'm guessing he got lucky, and he might get more channels of us aimed it.
Ok I did this The idea is solid u should also invest in a signal meter, and make sure to point towards Transmitter grouding is a must and after my install I did a couple of things you might do 1 moved the dish location for line of site 2 i sed a channel master antenna combiner and added an antenna on top of the yagi to have another antenna facing damb near the closer tower wich can be independantly moved ans a preamp on it as well as a G.E 4 output amp for the house you dont really need any active element on the dish, but again ir should be grounded If. I had a tree n some power transformersn real close so I knew this Cluster would be noisey not to forget the cell towers that are in the way. So I put an inactive. Preamp on the Yagi by itself for filterring as much as I could cell noise n C.B radio also in the line of sight. I can tell when this guy is on because its visably screwing up my Fox channel. But everything else comes in and i do get a few channels more relliably than i did before. Im in a mobile park that has rules that bar me from using my own roof they said you can have the round ones so. I used to put antenna on top of kithchen cabinet and the cats kept knocking it down I thought I had gremlins ? , but if you dont like spending on a 2 or 3 hundred dollars all in one that i knew Id get sued over, this is a cheap, but effective way to enjoy the monthly bills dissappearing. I thought about some reflective tape for the Parabola another 25.00 simple add on . Of course there are options with my antenna cluster, and if your cosiderring doing this the results far outweighs the costs. Ive been laughing like a madman ever since this video came out, becase it does really work , Happy T.V to all interested in cable cutting May the T.V force be with you. Thanks
Patrick I want to thank you for your comment and for sharing your wisdom. That is good stuff buddy.
best about using Satelitte dish is u can use the cables for an ANT and if u do go back ..you'll have 2 cable lines to choose from ANT and SAT - as the new instillation provides new cables, and not allowed to use the old,is what im doing, plus when bad weather and SAt goes out, dish charges 12 a mth for local, so having an ANT saves that each mth ...DirectTv gives some local added to the charge, and only comes in if the SAT is working in good weather, dont pay ur bill Local channels are gone also, it pays to have an ANT installed, if nothing else use for your home FM/am stereo - edit thanks for sharing this, this is what ill be doing till Direct tv hooks me up next week, right now with Dish and they went up after 2 yrs, 40.00 overnight to 140.00 a mth- so switching back to Direct,for under 100.00 ... but if i can get used to the ANT channels I'm going to cancel Direct is my goal
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@@ItsMe-rl7ex I went up under the house where they attached the ground on a clamp, I went to tighten it up, it shocked me like a 110 v !!.. It wasn't even tightened up, and the connectors was barely hand tightened and instead of drilling a hole in the floor they drilled into the side of the house and ran one cord that way for the living room, and tacked the wire with one U nail plastic clap thingie, the rest was just dangling on a round wad… I always get bad installers and have to fix, I learned how to fix everything, which is the positive I guess - but yes, U have to have that meter to get a good signal, it rains there goes the sat.. im sick of it and the expense..when Direct gets installed I will make sure to show me this time, thanks for the reminder :)
The sat dish is pointed at satellites, not local broadcast stations, so most people will need to re-aim the antenna to get local stations.
YES!, the dish points into space, the tv towers are lower...
Amen. The dish itself does nothing to improve the signal or bring in more signals, it will however block weaker, interfering signals coming from other direction that can reduce the quality of the signals you are trying to pick up. It acts as an isolation deviece.
I recommend a professional antenna installer or maybe a ham radio operator. There is a lot Todd understood about antennas and the behavior of the transmitted signal. And these new TVs that are super slow to show results of adjustments.
Just use the antenna that was used 20 years ago. You will be surprised what it picks up. I would remove the dish and use a telescoping mast and use a UHF antenna you can also add elements to pick up VHF with little problems. If you are close enough to the stations you can pick up most stations. Some are weaker than others and you may need a booster amplifier I found that out my booster amplifier wasn't on I did a rescan after I turned on the booster amplifier and got three times as much stations. My antenna is in the attic because we get lots of storms and the sun is hard on the plastic on the antenna. The Florida sun is hard on antenna hardware. Even the cables get dry rotted if left out in the sun. 73
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I used to work for a company that manufacture antennas. Many of the things you have shown are quite interesting. I used to use as a XXX Model machine to print out a Standing wave ratio. Also with a push of a button, I could tell if I was Target on. If she didn't want to retire this was the direction I was trying to show her. Look @ all of the dishes so many providers leave on so many peoples houses. Look @ rental properties alone. All I'm saying is all we needed was a splitter. To go from room to room to house to house. When they charge you more than what you use, come on? Where are our elected officials on this???
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Hi thank you so much for the nice message, Yes I try to do a couple videos every month:)
God bless you brother! Brilliant! Genius and how rad you are to share this ….most people I know here in crappy Los Angeles…….never share cool ideas……. sharing is cari g bro! We salute u! Good luck from all over, in your life , is gifting you…………cheers bro! \m/-_-
Hello my friend I want to apologize for this late reply to your comment. I do not get on here everyday like I should. I appreciate your kind words and I am glad you liked my video. Cheers:)
The dish is no longer connected to the tv. The antenna is pulling in the stations from the towers not the satellite. The number of stations vary depending on the terrain and the tv stations in your area. All he did was use the cable which goes to all the tvs in your house.
I'm very glad it really worked for you Sir in getting a whole lot of TV Channels & I live in New Zealand & the SKY Satellite Dish is not Facing toward our VHF / UHF Signal as the SKY Satellite Dish is completely facing the opposite way & I would have to do a modify the mounting pole so the TV Antenna would be in line with the VHF/UHF TV Signal or wouldn't matter & my UHF Antenna is a very very long & it is the longest UHF you can get & I used to work for TV Antenna Company & that's when I brought my 2 UHF & 1 VHF Antenna but later down the track the TV Antenna Company Closed Down which was a shame & my big VHF Antenna got damaged & one of the Very Very London UHF Antenna got damaged to & so I only have One good UHF that is work good & my son Regan works with a Double Glazing Company & takes the old Aliuminum windows & doors out of houses & replacing them with Double Glazed Windows & Doors & he brings the old Aliuminum windows doors home for me to strip down & some of the old Aliuminum windows that I strip down & I have got flat a good Aliuminum pieces to repair the broken reflector on the UHF Antenna replace with Flat Aluminum Pieces instead of trying to repair the mesh that was a reflector on the UHF TV Antenna & having Flat Aliuminum Pieces should work better than having a metal Mesh Reflector & the problem I'm going to have to do to the Aliuminum Pieces I will have to get a tin of paint stripper to get the powder coat paint off the Flat Pieces of Aluminum &.once I have done that I can start making up the 2 reflectors one for top reflector & one for the bottom of the reflector & I also have to make up some elements & get a box & I already have a New balum & quite a bit RG6 Coaxial Cable to screw the RG6 to the Diaplexer & the other end to the F connector & screw that to the balum & the UHF TV Antenna should work again like a New UHF TV Antenna & if I should get more Flat Aliuminum Pieces I will make up a fairly large VHF TV Antenna & have all the other bits & Pieces to put it all together & have it working well again & it will last for years as the flat Aluminum Pieces are fairly thick to & hopefully I can get some more Flat Aliuminum Pieces & I have enough here now to make a VHF TV Antenna & then I wouldn't have enough Flat Aluminum Pieces to repair the UHF TV Antenna & at the moment I would rather fix the UHF TV Antenna Kind Regards Peter
Hello and thank you for the comment, I can tell you have some knowledge in this area:)
Our cable company is eliminating cable. So I plan on using the cable coax to all my TVs. I plan on trying a flat panel indoor antenna along with an amplifier to boost the signal strength. You did’t need a RF filter or amplifier?
@@rickmiller4971 Hello no I did not use one but it sounds like it could help get better reception and maybe more channels. Let me know
Just use the coax wire and the mount from the dish. The dish is actually pointing to a satellite orbiting the earth, so it will not help with over-the-air signal. It may actually cause an interference with the signal.
what I was looking for was using the dish as a antenna reflector its not hooked up to your outdoor antenna its reflecting the signal to the antenna to make it stronger I was looking for a video to see if it actually works.( using a dish as a reflector.)
Or you can remove the dish and use the J pole already there holding the Dish. I just removed mine, but plan to increase the J pole height with another pole.
I learned you live north of all those channels.
To know where to point the antenna there are Android phone apps to show you where the towers are. One is antenna point or DTV antennas. Using the satellite cable is good because is already set up to the interior of the house, but if anything keep the dishes "J" pole, can always mount the antenna on that.
If still a weak signal, screw a pre amp in, they have those at Walmart too.
Reading the comments. Guys the dish has nothing to do with his over the air antenna. All he did was use their existing cable off dish that is tie into his house cable wiring.
Thanks for the comment Ravi😀
I’m a DirecTV tech and I find this funny. He’s just utilizing the line from the dish because I’m sure everyone of his rooms are tied to our DirecTV splitter
Yes sir you are correct.
The dish can be used as a reflector in that way, but that needs to be tuned to a specific channel frequency. Reflectors are good if tuned correctly, but reduce signal if tuned wrong. The tuning is simply the spacing between the driven element and the reflector (dish) to result in a constructive reflected signal. Note that high frequency UHF channels are rapidly disappearing and a dish reflector becomes less and less useful at lower frequencies. The dish can also be used to block an unwanted back side channel that causes interference.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge, good stuff
sigh! The Dish is pointed toward where the Dish Satellite is going to be while in geo-stationary orbit around the Earth. You want to point the TV Antenna in the direction of your local, earth-bound, TV Stations' towers. If they are in the same direction, you just got lucky... Also, this only works for every room in the house that has ALREADY BEEN WIRED to the dish antenna. Also, usually, only the X.1 channels are HD- all the sub-channels (X.2, X.3, X.4, etc...) are the older SD video resolution, and usually show older programming because of that. Lastly, if you are close enough, with little in the way of obstruction, you can get away with a cheap, no-name antenna- shoot, even using a coat hanger would work! But the further out you are, you are better off with a name-brand antenna, like Winegard or Antennas Direct. In this case, though, the Satellite Dish may be acting as a reflector for the TV antenna, so may be boosting the signal a small bit. As a side note- if you don't already have your home wired from a previous installation, you can also use something like a Tablo device, which has 2-4 built-in tuners, attaches to your TV antenna, then sends the OTA Signal to any streaming device you have connected to your TV (Roku, Firestick, etc...). The Tablo can also record OTA broadcasts with an optional Hard Drive.
Thanks for the heads up on Tablo. I've always read that the signal from OTA is "pure" and better than streaming. Will a Tablo take away some of that quality? (my video quality knowledge is minimal)
@@martinmuecke2791 No, the Tablo can be set up to stream and/or record at 720p or 1080. I like it, even with some minor issues. It loads slowly, to create a buffer for recording. You have to have an internet connection. The Guide is only 24 hours ahead for the free version- but the 2-week guide is for a lifetime subscription at least. There is also a 3rd party Windows Program that can pull the Tablo recordings from the hard drive and put them on your computer in an MP4 format. Some version of the Table come with a built-in hard drive, some you buy your own- I prefer the latter, as you can usually find a larger one for a little cheaper. Lastly, and this probably won't really be an issue for most, but they are coming out with a newer version that will have an ATSC 3.0 tuner, for latest broadcast standard that will roll out over the next few years.
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That is the best compliment anyone has given me. Thank you
Thank you very much
Anytime I am glad you liked it:)
Great, now you have a bunch of free commercials to watch... 😅👍
Max thanks for the funny comment buddy:)
Amazing I hope that my local area has that many channels on the air? but thanks, you are a genius.
Hey Jose thanks for the positive message. You made my day, Good luck buddy:)
I so appreciate all the comments from the antenna and satellite dish experts...lol
I just ordered my antenna to do the same exact thing and use my dish satellite 💪☀️
Nice 👍
I did this and it works fine,got 53 channels.n.m.
wow nice bro, you a my technology hero , herooooo! Wow, I'm chaminda.from sri Lanka. Thanks bro.
Hey thanks, your message made me smile, I am glad I can be your tech hero. Cool name by the way:)
U need to waterproof the cable connection, and Terristial DTV directions have nothing to do with 14 GHz. satellite downlinks.
My problem is hiring someone to do this for us. A great idea when your on a budget, just have to have the strength to do it 😚
Hello I am sorry for late reply, Yes getting on the roof to do this is no easy task. I recommend hiring a handyman if you are not comfortable doing this.
It's got to say thank you man for the great tip because I was trying to think about a way to mess with my old dish antenna and you gave me the perfect way to do it so thank you so very much keep doing what you're doing you're amazing man.
Hi Erica thank you for the nice comment and the compliment. I am glad i could help you:)
This doesn't work you can not point you ordinary TV antenna in space cuz my dish is mounted on the ground and pick up channels this does not work not here in Wisconsin evidently since you live in California you're pulling yours from the TV Tower you're not pulling them from space
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Get a Roku then of course you need internet. I love mine!
You're really just using the satellite mast to hold your OTA antenna.
You still need to point the OTA antenna towards the broadcast towers.
I just removed the dish entirely and used the mast to mount the antenna... and positioned it.
Hello thanks for the advise and the comment
I took off all the dish parts stuck a metal pipe 7 ft long in the dish mast and drilled some screws to center it and secure it, Used same cables into the house but had to change the dish splitter to a another splitter and got antenna wired to 3 rooms.
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I used to install dishes all way to 3 meter size and spent 20 years as system tech with spectrum my RF KNOWLEDGE is rather extensive and all you did was added additional reflection/ focus element to your " cheap " Walmart antenna in a sense just amplifying the receivable channels the next advantage you have is you probably live in metro area or closely clustered cities
In my case the closest transmit station is 80 miles away on the other side of glacier created rim or in a sense I live in deep bowl the closest city only has 4 net works ( with digital rulings each may have as few as 2 or three channels to 12 channels each due compression
That " dish is not an active antenna just paraboliç reflector
I think this is the best way to do this...
The old dish will direct the T.V. signals back onto the antenna...
The dish will help picup more signal..
So does the dish actually focus transmissions onto the antenna to enhance reception or is it just being used as a a mount? You absolutely must aim the antenna at the borodcast antennas.
Hello I am not sure if the dish is helping, I am no expert, I just know it worked for me
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Your dish will be pointed to the satalite's geo stationary orbital position. If that's the same direction as your broadcast towers you are lucky. I'm my case a direct tv or dish network dish would point south west but the broadcast tv towers are to the northwest where I live.
I do like his use of the dish in the set up. It seems like it would work as a reflector to collect some additional signal for his antenna. The roof location is ideal as well.
Hello and thanks for the comment. Yes I do think the dish is giving me better signal, and hooking it up to the dish cable wire allowed me to get the channels in every room. It worked for me. Good luck:)
I think Michael is correct at his presumption of the dish being aimed at the satellites and the need to change its direction toward the transmitters of the over the air stations. Most area TV stations will use the same general location for the best broadcast signal.
@Matt Quinn I would have probably not done what he did but it worked for him.
I would have taken the dish off and used the J pole mount the dish was on to mount the antenna and the cable. then aim to the correct azimuth for the broadcast towers.
The collectors should be about 16" from the middle of the dish
Yes, he got lucky, the location of the geostationary sattelites and consequential orientation of the dish set up has nothing to do with what direction local OTA tv transmitters are located.
I thought a satellite dish is pointed towards the satellite (towards the sky) and the shape of the dish direct the signal towards the reciever? If so, then shouldn't the dish now be directed towards the horizon and in the direction of a TV tower? (dallas in my case) Seems to me that it would work better.
Depends on where the majority of ota antennas are relative to your houses location will be the determination of if you have to move the dish. Where I live the dish points south and the OTA antenna is nw. One has nothing to do with the other so the statement you made that you won't have to move it is incorrect!
Hello and thank you for the comment.
If you add the DTv Antenna with a smart Tv you will get more channels using the pluto tv app but must have wifi connection on tv.
You’re totally incorrect on how to point that antenna. The satellite dish is pointed in the correct direction for satellite TV channels. The local channels unlike satellite channels aren’t being bounced off a satellite in space. For best reception, you’re supposed to point the antenna in the direction of the local stations’ broadcast towers. Also, there’s no point in actually keeping the dish. Just unbolt the entire dish off the dish mount and bolt the antenna there instead.
Actually he was clever of mounting it in front of the dish. As I have been experimenting with my old dish by putting an antenna in front of it, it actually boosts the signal significantly by reflecting it back to the antenna from behind. I thing he would actually loose alot of channels by removing the dish as it works as an reflector. He would probably get even more channels if he turned the antenna toward the direction they are broadcasting from.
@@thepicard83 but it also depends on your area. All of the towers in your area may be scattered around your location and the dish could "block" the signals from towers in that direction (reduce their strength, actually). So while it may be an advantage for towers that your dish is pointing towards, everyone's mileage may vary.
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It was totally coincidental that your dish was pointed in the "correct" direction; your broadcast signals must be coming relatively from the south, assuming you live in the northern hemisphere (because that's where satellite antennas are pointed - toward the equator). It served no purpose other than to provide a place to mount your new antenna, which is pointing AWAY from the dish; the antenna was doing ALL the work.
"You're completely incorrect." Lol What a snooty comment... jerk
Well done dear keep it up 👍
My main concern would be whether or not the antenna is grounded. I’m assuming the satellite dish is, after professional installation. Here, the same cable is connected to the antenna, so, would it be grounded?
I may or may not be. If he is connecting it to the same coaxial cable that the sat dish uses then it probably is. Coax is usually gorunded through the splitter that comes from the antenna or sat dish and splits into the whole house. If you are only connecting to one TV then there are grounding blocks that can be used. Super cheap and easy to install. Just like a splitter but it's 1-1 pass through with a screw to connect a grounding wire just like on the splitter.
Place a rabbit ears along with a leaf antenna in front of the dish and connect them to a two way splitter outputs so that they feed into the input from inside and that is your one out capturing signals into the one line. That's seems to work
Hello thank you for your comment
Just dying inside. CABLE companies do not install dishes, it is the competition. The better use would be to remove the dish from the "arm" of the mount and put your antenna on it. LOL
Can you explain how can have 2 reflectors. The dish is a reflector and the large element of the antenna is other reflector. In addition to his can a reflector for milimétric waves be usefull for decimetrica waves like the digital TV.
If you have good signal strength in your area with a fish hook and a wire you can receive this decimetric signals.
The sat dish is useless in this configuration.
Hi Juan, I am not exactly sure if the satellite dish itself is helping me. I do know I am getting way more channels with the antenna on the dish. My main objective was to use the dish cable going into my house so I can get reception in all my rooms of my house. It worked great
Wow these comments are stupid. This has nothing to do with the satellite dish.
He installed the antenna using the existing satellite infrastructure. This is a BIG DEAL because that meant no drilling holes in the roof or running new wires.
Hey bro I have been meaning to say thank you for your comment and your observation. You are right my main purpose was to see if I could use the Sat. cable to get reception in all the rooms in my house and it did work. But I have learned that not everyone sees my video in the same way, and that is ok, I welcome everyones point of view. Thanks again:)
direct tv at my location points dish to the southwest. all my st. louis stations come from the south east at 126 to 142 degrees. so I would have to re orient my dish .
You could just take the dish off & use the j mount & wire already there
Best to add a one to three foot pole to that mount to get the antenna high enough to eliminate any likely interference caused by the roof blocking the signals.
Dish might act as a reflector for the directional antenna?
Your channels will very on if you are in a urban area vs rural area
I know the dish doesn't make any point. But the wires already there so he don't have to buy it or wire it through the house.👍
Yes the metal of the dish bounces/ catches the signal and throws the signal back at the antenna elements this is called a prolobolic antenna.
Yes, you are right
Thank you all the haters just have to hate. Buy leaving the dish at-least you don't have to take it to a recycling center and you just have to loosen a few bolts to adjust it where you want it.
Great video, thank you! One question is why did you leave the DirecTV reflector attached, and how does that affect your UHF/VHF reception?
Hello Tony, I am not sure the reflector is actually doing anything but it was just easier to leave it on. Thanks for the comment
Can It work in Jamaica 🇯🇲?
did you use the dish splitter for the cable wires then connected the wires right into the TV no amplifier
No i just used the direct cable line from the satelite to the house
2 questions: 1. how many stations would you get without the Dish antenna normally? and 2. The Dish would have been pointed optimally for Satelite reception, not aerial readio frequency, so how since making the video have you found a better direction for your reception??
Like to see without dish to see if this adds to signal collection at all
I did this it works great I leave in California. It's weird I even got signals far beyond tv signals. More like space satellite 🛰 not sure if I should be saying anything about this, I don't want to get in trouble with the government 🤔
Hey Jose I want to say I am so glad this worked for you. Your comment made me laugh. Thanks for the comment🙏