HAVE YOU TRIED THE NEW HANABI?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- HAVE YOU TRIED THE NEW HANABI?
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as a hanabi main it kinda weirdens me to use her first skill I'm still used to her old first but nonetheless she's actually pretty good now
She has very little in terms of evasion though. Remember that she's still a mm without any mobility. The moment someone starts jumping on you or a mage starts hitting you with a barrage of damage, she'll only get 1-2 hits before she's dead. Her main problem before was her ability to avoid being picked off the moment an enemy enters the backline and it still is the problem after revamp.
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I like how vexana is just floating around the whole game, either way I think her revamp make her a little bit better than the old one, there isn't really much changes on her skills it just make her play style a little weird for me because I always forgot to click her first skill in team fight
I thought it was only for me
When I use vex she just floats I thought it was a bug ..
Thank god
lol it happened to me too
you dont know how much i hate that bug
It happened to our teammate nana too
Yhe Old 1 is better... 3 item. Can killed an assassin or mm... Now more support rule and team fight
I think i know why hanabi's basic attack won't bounce after hitting a turret. It is so that the petal won't bounce to the nearest hero and agro the turret to hanabi, making it impossible for hanabi to destroy turret when there's enemy in the turret area.
That what actually happen when the revamp first came out. She couldn't push turret and the devs fix that.
@@dodgeseriously2090 yea, i had two videos i uploaded for that, one without it and one with the bounce ffect.
Needless to say, i almost couldent push, but at least i can tickle the enemy
@@dodgeseriously2090 oh nice, she had that issue with the old version but you could just turn it off back then.
Target enemy it will bounce to the tower
@@abhijitroy6778 of course, but it will agro the turret to her if both hanabi and the enemy is in the range of the turret... Oh, i see what you mean.... But the damage from the bouncing petals reduced after the first hit if i'm not wrong, making it really unreliable to push... Especially if there's more hero / minion than just one and the petals somehow manage to bounce between heroes / minion first before landed on the turret...
The probelm that I having in new Hanabi revamp is her 1st skill have very long cd and she need assistance from tanks to cover her during teamfight like Layla and Lesley. Her movement speed bonus also seems quiet helpful for her mobility but I think it wasn't enough if she want to be meta. For laning phase, I recomend to level up 2nd skill first to poke enemy and last hit minion safely
Agree with u... whats good only her old skill became passive thats all..
100% still weak af for a revamped hero
+ unlike layla and lesley she has pretty short range and has to get closer unlike the other two😭
So far so good. What I hate is that her ultimate no longer ‘blooms’ when you don’t hit an enemy
Seems to be fair tho. If it bloomed just by hitting the ground and catching soeone caught in the aoe it felt kinda op. Hete it actually reqards you for aiming it properly and hitting someone
Right? It's such a huge nerf. It's impossible to aim, much like Carmilla's old ultimate. Hope they fix it in an upcoming patch by either allowing it to bloom like her old ultimate or reducing the CD if it doesn't hit an enemy.
If you miss the old one, it is still useless most of the time
@@dragonfable66 I don't think it's fair. The CD is at least 28 seconds and you don't get refunded if it didn't hit anything. It's a waste and if the point of the revamp is to make her less friendly with low-rank players then she's still good for nothing. This is the reason why the old Carmilla was so useless because you could often waste your ultimate skill.
@@_archieee It literally have a big hitbox wdym hard to hit... Sounds like skill issue ngl
I think they should add a compensation (cd reduction) for hanabi's ulti since her ulti will not spread if she doesn't hit any enemies.
TBH I think the old hanabi was more powerful compared to this revamp one.
The old Hanabi's passive gave her lots of shield which makes her immune to most crowd control and she can walk around with it which protects her from gank. The old Hanabi also has this strong life steal that can sustain her even in team fights, combine her passive with inspire that makes her unstoppable.
Now the Hanabi is much more on skill reliance which make her good in laning phase but I think her first skill isn't that much enough to compensate her survivability. It has freakin 17 cd which makes her vulnerable and her ultimate no longer blooms so it is not much effective on team fights if you don't hit it.
I hope moonton adjust her skills and more because I think the revamp was not enough to make her a meta hero.
She ni longer dubbed "Queen of lifesteal" anymore
Skill issue
Tap normal attack unga bunga doesn't work anymore
the new one actually gives her more shield as long as you do basic attack aside from attack speed and movement speed. Her ultimate still bounces and alot more quicker now with higher damage. You can always buy lifesteal items
I can't believe they have the audacity to called it a "revamp". Hell Akai got changed a lot but didn't get considerate as a "revamped" hero.
2 things I really don't like about the newly revamped Hanabi is her free life steal being removed and her skins updated effects (basic attack's so smol😅). They should have redesigned everything, not just her Ultimate.
as a Hanabi main, removing the bonus lifesteal on her passive will take a lot of time getting used to. She gained survivability but the sustain isn't there anymore. She needed this buff on her damage but removing some essentials on her kit is unacceptable i.e., lifesteal. she felt the same but still lacking, unlike Lesley and other mm revamps, this is by far the worst ''improvement'' they thought they serve.
another thing from new hanabi is her passive now can trigger Demon hunter strike (DHS) passive which is very helpful in team fight. i recently tried hanaby using dhs + golden staff build, it was pretty decent tho
i wish that her ult can still be activated without needing an enemy and why is the cooldown for her 1st skill so long???
Her ultimate is harder to aim..and very short immobilize.I miss her longer immobilize.
Yea her ult is like a second skill of vex which is very weak and her old ultimate is a crowd control
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Lacks sustain and her roaming ability (Thanks to her movement speed from her passive), which is what made her fun to use, was removed.
Although she does now have a higher survivability, her lane sustain has been greatly reduced, making her easy to gank, despite her 1st skill revamp.
Damage wise, she's like Faramis who can deal massive damage when her skills hit multiple enemies....which scary as fuck.
Well she does perform much better now but its still not enough to be picked as a good marksman to help you or survive in a 1v1 fight against a assassin like hayabusa, ling, gusion, karina
@@solo451 the only upside to her now is her new passive and skill bouncing ability. They are scary.
But she can easily be picked by any Assassin. Lacks damage early game, has no lane sustain, and is easy to predict.
@@negativeplayer4446 he lacks damage if the enemy is alone. Because the basic attack has lower damage compare to other marksman but has more damage inflicted on multiple enemies
@@solo451 I get that already, her passive bounce is what makes her scary in teamfights. She's like Faramis who can deal an absurd amount of burst damage if her attacks hit multiple enemies.
I think hanabi's ultimate should be target locked skill, why because if it doesn't hit enemies it will not bloom so yeah I think it needs to be target locked skill ☺️
If it were a target lock skill it would be kinda op
@@skyoimiya well it's just my thought since if you messed up it will be useless ☺️
I agree!
@@skyler_lee it would definitely be better of course but being able to keep an enemy in place with zero effort while you free hit is way to op and might cause moonton to nerf other parts of her kit so I'm pretty satisfied with the current hanabi
Any skill not hit is useless... 🗿
My opinion from the new Hanabi:
1.) They should atleast make her first skill shield permanent like chang'e's second skill or reduce the first skill cd for every attack like moscov's passive or reduce the first skill cd because seriously, 18 seconds?? We want Hanabi to have more chance to have survivability yet her first skill is kinda useless
2.) They should put back the ult spread when the ult is missed, I think it's better when the ulti skill is missed the ult spread will activate, but when the ult skill hit an enemy the spread will not activate, I want hanabi to have a chance to atleast immobilize and scare enemies because missing it is such a waste unless they put the ulti spread back .
3.) I also notice some of her skins got nerfed so bad. I think they should put it back when her first skill is active her first skill got that enhanced basic attack effect like Rakshesha or Field Op because seriously, the rakshesha skin is not woth it to be called "epic" when they literally just remove the best effect from hanabi which is her first skill enhance basic attack where her Weapon gets bigger.
(This is only my opinion)
I agree with you especially in number 1 reducing of CD every basic attack is such a great idea since it has a high CD and it's just even a mobility skill ☠️
Vexana still standing even though she was dead
as someone who picks hanabi when playing mm, i was a little put off by the lack of spread on her ult, the 1st skill's high cd, and the fact that they silently nerfed several of her stats. however, seeing the bounce on the 2nd skill and ult changes things a lot. she can clear lanes faster now and as you say in the vid the ult can catch the backline if you just hit the front. excited to play her now!
So far she is really good. I think her first skill must be treated as a "clutch skill" where you have to activate it at the last moment, this is probably the hardest in Hanabi's kit. I think people will be able to adjust accordingly, most players are clutch anyways. Once people get used to her revamp, I hope we can see her in rank and tournaments
Think saber was campaign u gona get time for that lol
Shz still wont be used in hogh rank and tournaments shes just not good enough
Hanabi gains shield through lifesteal as long as her S1 is active
Hanabi + Carmilla = Thorned Higanbana
The revamped Hanabi and Carmilla's new ultimate would be a deadly combo. It has high probabilty of wiping out enemy team if done with proper execution.
Me and my friends tried that combo and I also used Corrosion scythe. Our enemies can barely move lmaooo. My other friend also used Kimmy as a midlaner and it was like overkill! The slow from my corrosion scythe plus Carmilla's slow from link and Kimmy's ice queen wand made it impossible for the enemies to escape our disastrous combo.
Whoever mained Hanabi before this were psychopaths
For me the main issue is her first skill (it dissapear too quickly even when theres no enemy ) and basic attack (kinda lack lifesteal event when i use hunter's claw)
Why would you use haas claw on Hanabi?
@@ispeakcockney5387 idk i just felt like it and got like mvp and gold and got 1st in my hometown lmao
@Queen Vexana Gaius i just notice hanabi special skill lifesteal and mana regen were remove. Rip new hanabi. I thought moonton only revamp her basic appearance, not a whole body. 🥲
*I think hanabi portrait is uglier than her model. I wish they fix it*
Tru di pantay
Her face too sharp 🗿
The way vexana is just standing like that the whole game
Eligin: Have you ever tried new hanabi?
Me: no
The downside for me as a former Hanabi main is that the bounce limit is only to 4
It would be nice if they also make her passive just like Odette's where her basic attack can bounce on herself, it would be good in 1v1 situation....
4.45 not his teammates saving and sacrificing for him😂
Thoughts on the new Hanabi:
I have used her pre-revamp a lot and I can confidently say that the new her is "not worse".
Compared to her old self, she is definitely much better, including gameplay and overall lore and design. But of course there are still problems with her new gameplay, they changed it so that her old gimmick now applies to all of her skills, and attacks. The problem are the cooldowns of her skills. Why're they so long? Terizla has shorter cooldowns than her. Her mana consumption is also a problem, because they changed her 1st skill, which previously used all her mana, she basically has infinite mana now because of how long her cooldowns are. Her 2nd skill CAN be better if they lowered it's absurdly long cooldown.
Overall, the new Hanabi IS better but not that much better than her old one. They removed her shield passive which was what made her good.
Wrong. This is worse, 2nd skill is for slow and checking bush... Now they can easily attack her while hiding in the bush.
@@raymondramos1502 you can still check it, becuase it can still bounce to enemies inside the bush even though you threw the kunai at the minions or something.
i used her in rank, the cooldowns for her skills are terrible
Ult damage garbage
@@chiaraagain super long. I actually think pre revamp hanabi has better survivability
I think they should make her 1st skill permanent just like chang'e's 2nd skill and make it unusable when the shield get destroyed just like zhask 1st skill after killing his ult so the shield won't be abused
I really like old Hanabi and Athena Shield combo. With Hanabi's passive and Athena shield, her shield absorption became 30%-40% of her max HP.
For those who forgot the effect of the Item "Athena's Shield" back then. It gives the hero a shield that absorbs any damge every 30seconds. 450-1150 shield depending on how long the game match is.
And for me Hanabi was unkillable since she can't be cc unless she got burst by high damage.
Her ult is so hard to land other than that she is really good
True, it disappear when it doesn't hit on enemy
For me she's still weak because she is still easy to counter like if the enemy is using hanabi I'll use Brody
@@ashura516 i mean why do you want an op hero i would say she is balance not a toxic pick not a ban pick just a average pick , the Devs can now increase her basic attributes according to meta like they r doing with alucard and stuff like that later on
@@hkrishnananda2350 Weak ML players want every hero to have dash and to be op as heck...those kind of players have pretty much skill issue
8:35. I think she's a 10... I mean decent, I mean good 😐.
8:38. Not yet, because I don't quite see her in ranked games.
Thanks for the amazing gameplay Mr. Elgin 👍.
Also i can Solo kill using her with the help of Insire also if you press Turet basic attack to push the turret her passive is not bounce so your 100% not detected
Did anybody notice Vexana standing like a stick ?
People don’t realize the revamp is a nerf because they are blinded by the visual aesthetics and hype.
I'm waiting for Elgin's video on M4 pass
Sad thing about her 1st skill, it wears off. They should’ve left it until it breaks so that hanabi won’t use it as a initial skill when attacking. The immunity will be possibly gone when you need it.
Like Chang'e
5 seconds is too little, for a 18 seconds cooldown skill, it's shit.
Edit: and a lot of CC skills deal damage more than her shield.
@@theflyingwhale5778 or they could’ve make it like moscov’s first skill where the Cd reduces when attacking.
It wil be OP. It will make every setting tank useless in ganking her.
It would be tad better if it also didn't give shit mov speed and is actually high
Is this ori Or advanced server... I really like the tap below map that shows us our achieved items so far... Really good details there for me
@Elgin what's the "ok" circle thingy appearing on your screen?
I think builds that emphasize attack effects are now more valuable for Hanabi than the traditional crit build, though crit build does still have its advantages. Hanabi's bounces can each now trigger attack effects, and with the buff to Corrosion Scythe, a build that emphasizes attack effects has the most consistent damage against enemies with different defensive levels. Crit items tend to kill squishy heroes without any problems but are more heavily countered by proper defensive items like Blade Armor. Corrosion Scythe + Demon Hunter Sword is a more consistent and well-rounded build, which is particularly valuable because she isn't just targeting the squishy heroes, and you aren't in control of who her bounces hit either. Critical builds are still very potent though, because of the marking effect of her second skill that prevents her damage from being reduced on bounces. My testing hasn't come out with a definitive winner between the two builds, so for now I'll just leave it up to player preference.
I thought that I was the only one seeing vexana floating around
There are pros and cons about it.
The old hanabi, you can poke enemies with bounce skill by hitting minion to tower to heroes or turn off the bounce skill to solo tower push
Now the revamped Hanabi, you can either pick one. To push tower or to hit hero.
You can’t do minion > hero > tower > hero in a safe distance or hero > tower > hero > tower.
People see it as a buff but it’s actually nerf from the old hanabi. Old Hanabi can easily dominate the tower range. Any enemy heroes will afraid to hug tower due to the bounce effect of Hanabi.
Just like Luna Dota. It’s actually very OP if you know how to zone enemies with tower. Dang!
1. The removal of her ability to sustain through her innate Lifesteal pushed her down quite hard. its either trading her battle spells for sustainability or for escape. Despite having control over her cc immunity, since she can't sustain, her shield runs down quickly.
2. Her 2nd skill is a good poking ability now but the thing about her 2nd skill before is that it can used to scout bushes nearby (enemies hit generate orbs that comes back to her which signifies an enemy was hit). Especially now that we can't hear enemies when taking creeps nearby or farming in their jungle.
3. Despite being revamped, her viability in higher ranks (being a mythical glory myself) is still vague even though she's only released a few hours ago.
4. Damage wise, her revamped one is better than her old one. But what is damage if she can't survive for too long.
5. Over-all, her viability only increased in the lower ranks. It didn't help her gameplay in the higher ranks.
There are life steal items
the shield increases with damage dealt, in lategame it can reach half of your hp
I like it how vexana is just T posing the whole gane
from hanabi to hanabae :0
Hey elgin please do a video regarfing to m4, And the math on getting prime skin. haha Thank you
They really are insisting on heroes keeping up their niches on their roles, uh...Still, I'm quite happy with this since the "Bounce" mechanic of Hanabi is in her Core Gameplay now. Uh, wouldn't Carmilla be a good partner for her then?
1:46 seems like I'm not the only one having those weird ingame hero models huh 😂
As a hanabi main I do like the new one altough there are a few points that I think should be different
First of all I think her passive and her 1 skill should be in one
Passively when learned you get bouch active you get the shield
And maybe give her a passive that helps her with her lack of movement
Secondly hanabi isn't effected much from life steal items compared to Layla or myia so I always felt like building it on her felt kinda useless so her build in life steal reduce removal is kind of a down
Those are the 2 things I think could have done better but overal it's a step in the right direction
HAHA at 01:15 . I think they did not mention in the revamp too that Vexana will walk like a mannequin if she is near Hanabi. 😂😂😂
as a Hanabi main, I kinda find her weird to understand at first, but at the end me and a teammate Carmilla did a maniac from nowhere so...we lost because other than me and Carmilla the team was stupid, but that was unexpected, we were some levels behind and still did a maniac
I think hanabi could still use a few adjustments to make her viable. -Revert range nerf
-Decrease CD on skill1 but decrease duration
-Convert shield to hp after skill1 ends to mimic old life steal
One thing also i found out that when basic attack the minions if there is a enemy hero nearby it will bounce to it even when they are hiding in the bush
The turret absorbing the petal bounce means I can focus attack the turret without worrying about bounces giving me turret aggro, so yay.
What I really like about the revamp is that it's easier to lane now since you can also harass.
Facing opponents with a support is also manageable and somewhat advantageous because her bounce damage now is not a joke.
2:25 Vexana T-posing is the best thing I've seen today
Hi Elgin, is it possible to get the former M-skins in the pass shop with just the normal pass?
I love the new hanabi, makes me feel like a ninja too with her first skill and her fast movements, I love the revamp.
Who will miss the old hanabi
👇
No one...becos she's shit
As a main hanabi user, for me elgin it feels like I prefer the old hanabi. I think she becomes more weaker, the range is shorter and she’s slower than before. It’s my opinion only.
@@zackzoom8779 but the range is shorter it’s hard to fight for some heroes like fighters
@@zackzoom8779 and the shield, my god it’s useless and cd is too long
@@radthenurse8329 1 shot from a Lesley with berserker's is enough to destroy the shield🥲
one quick question about the m4 pass, does the premium one stay discounted until you buy the next pass or is there a time limit
I have a high hope to see all her skin revamp just just other revamped hero , but they didn’t do anything at all and nerf the effects instead .
I feel like the main problem I had with her was her base basic attack dmg in the early game, compared to layla and miya they also had the same problem until they got revamped. Hanabi has gotten a revamp and I have to say she is better! Although I am a bit disappointed to see her basic attack damage being really low in the early to mid game. (For reference when elgin said time to take revenge on zilong he wasn’t able to kill him despite him being combod by both hanabi and atlas)
Because he is using crit build. For better early game do corrosion + demon + golden combo
My man want early damage also late damage 😂😂
@@F2P_player0_0i’m not saying i want her dmg to be like the old beatrix but just for it to be slightly increased, think about what I said before replying!
due to her adjustments with controllable shield/immunity, she can be used to initiate a teamfight (if any ally is being chased)
her turn-around mechanic is buffed at most, but her skill activation (soul scroll and higanbana) is nerfed so it's a balanced to me... she's also squishy af
The revamp is fine, the only thing i was disappointed is the skill effects especially the effect on her weapon when skill 1 is activated. I miss the old effect when i use my rakshesha and collector skin.
Elgin may u show us if it's worth to buy the M4 pass and has it got chance to reach, without spending diamonds except the 399 for the pass, level 75 and get the prime Beatrix skin?
Honestly i feel she is still so-so with a full crit build after using her revamped version a few times. It makes me think she needs more physical penetration. I hope the devs can increase the width/hit box of the ultimate so it's easier (but not too easy) to hit enemies with it. They can also decrease the cooldown of her 1st skill because it's unforgivingly long hahahah
1:45 That's relatable
Plz make a video in M4 pass that how much mcoins can we collect by buying the M4 mass and not doing anymore reacharge cose I want to buy M1 skin from shop. Plz make a video fast 🤧
She needs cd reduction on her first skill when her petals bounce (similar to moskov)
The revamp is good nothing major for her to join the current meta. As an old Hanabi main I'm now enjoying playing Clint.
I just realize she is running like hayabusa😄
Giving me Sivir vibes from LOL. I am glad with this revamp, she can now protect herself in battle.
i encountered her 3 times in rg but still they lost the match (i'm currently in mg 600+ pts btw) she need a skill or high iq player to utilize her max potential. It really depends on the user those 3 did have average skilled teamates.
I try hanabi as critical damage and it was too weak. So I used new attack speed items to help my game. It works well.
yea,tried it with a enemy hanabi with full damage build,it seems like it didnt work very well.
I think you should use her second skill to mark enemy so the crit damage can bounce too.... Maybe it can make crit build better
@@shining3759 no i think critical damage can't bounce back.
@@IAARPOTI man...that's suck
@@IAARPOTI what do you mean?
Why did the map go darker when it comes in the middle ???
Love the revamped hanabiii!! I think the revamped hanabiii is much better🤩🤩 I love your videos keep it up ❤️
Hoi Elgin,
Any idea why M4 event is not in the advance server yet?
2:22 pov: vexana
They also nerf the immobilize of her ult from 2 sec to 0.8
Zilong: ah revamped hanabi, our fight will be legendary!
Bro video on M4 pass please. Is it same as last year? Do we need to spend more than 5k diamond to reach 75 lvl or we can easily reach it with just 399 diamond?
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seem that the range of the bounce effect is almost unlimited thus making it look even more dangerous in team fights .. Hylos + Carmilla + Hanabi combo is what come to my head right now lol ✌️✌️✌️
plus luo yi
Bloomed a little than the old one.
But this revamp is not enough for Hanabi to enter the Meta. A marksman without atleast escaping skill like Dash/Blink/Debuff would not shine in High Tier Rank.
I know Hanabi is good at team fights because of the splash basic, but I'd rather pick Miya it is because of her escaping mechanism skill which you can easily position yourself unlike Hanabi when a team fight starts it's like all or nothing thing fight.
I think devs should give Hanabi a Dash or Blink skill since she is a Ninja which is common to them.
not hanabi related but why is vexana just t-posing the entire game like gurl, it's giving turret 💀💀💀
Corrosion scythe goldenn staff and demon hunter sword + inspire is so op
Especially if enemy have a lot of hp she will get unli shield
SHE NEEDS A DASH SKILL. MOONTOON GET YOUR HEAD TOGETHER.
Elgin talk about hanabi meanwhile vexana is chilling out T posing
I always forgot to use her 1st skill when in team fights, still not used to it
This is really good. Hanabi has finally gain some respect again with this new revamp as Hanabi is one of the slowest and hardest MM to carry in early and mid. With this build she is able to stand a chance against pro MM like Beatrice, Melissa, Wanwan whom are all meta favourites.
5:39 vexana be like:🧍
Lmaoo💀💀
I main Hanabi as MM, don’t like the revamped actually. Something doesn’t feel right haha.
looking at the splash arts side by side, it looked like Hanabi went on a diet: longer neck, more pronounced collarbone, and most importantly, a boba nerf...
Hanabi's first skill was all the Odette players dream
Sadly Moneytoon dont agree
Yup, they're trying so hard to at least make Odette more popular in the game but honestly I like the leaping Odette more than the ult-then-dash Odette. Leaping Odette can dash through walls but the newer version can't. They should've just added an extra leap to the leaping Odette. If they don't want to give her immunity during ult, I think two leaps won't hurt. This way, she'll be more mobile, same with Valentina plus I think she'll be picked more.
Her new 1st skill is like Esmeralda's first(shield+movement speed).😍
I'd like you to make a video on the new adjustments on Natan. I can't find the correct emblem and builds for him. I'm just used with his physical build but it doesn't seem to work anymore
Kuya elgin pwede mopo ba ireport yung bug ngayon kay ling pag nasa wall si ling pag nag basic attack ka sa kalaban,jungle at minions at nag 2nd skill ka mag cacast agad 2nd skill mo ngayon kasi pag nasa wall si ling at nag basic attack tapos 2nd skill hindi agad nag cacash sobrang delay bago umano yung 2nd skill
Hey is the M4 pass not going to be available in advance server ????