Want to go Single-Seater Racing but have a Limited Budget?

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  • More bhp/ton than a Bugatti Veyron for less than £10K?
    Yes really!
    In this exclusive new video to 7Spot we take a look at Ben Bonfield's two single-seat racing cars that he uses in hill climb events (a Jedi and an OMS).
    Space frame chassis, bike engine and double wishbone suspension will be familiar to kit car owners, but this combination has a much more narrow focus.
    Both of Ben’s 1000cc single-seat racing cars weigh around 300kg each and produce 200bhp - which is 667bhp/ton (compared to just 523bhp/ton for the Veyron) and can be bought for less than £10,000.
    In fact at the time of writing one is for sale with a 600cc engine, needing a little work for just £3000!
    If you thought single-seater cars were the reserve of the rich, think again!
    Ben takes us through both of his cars - which in the age-old phrase are similar but different - giving an insight into what is under the skin of these purebred racers.
    If your ambition is to race a car with wings & slicks, you should watch this video.
    Last time we looked at his classic Mini crossbred with a BMW motorcycle engine - link to the video here - ( • Classic Mini with Twin... ).
    If you enjoy these videos please consider subscribing to the channel as we have a lot more interesting content coming soon.
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ความคิดเห็น • 63

  • @krazed0451
    @krazed0451 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Motorcycle engines rule the world of budget motorsport :-D

    • @frankdesbaux
      @frankdesbaux 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Especially when they're in motorcycles.

  • @sh4969
    @sh4969 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    If I owned this I would want to make it road legal.

    • @purplemonstertv
      @purplemonstertv ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same would be amazing

    • @Al_is_XXX
      @Al_is_XXX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Could well be cheaper and easier to just buy an Ariel atom, which is

    • @mustafateran5927
      @mustafateran5927 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would be a pain in the ass but possible

    • @sv2697
      @sv2697 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Atom is at least $50k

    • @Al_is_XXX
      @Al_is_XXX 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sv2697 from £30,000 in the UK

  • @phoenixmotorsport647
    @phoenixmotorsport647 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I did sprints and hill climbs in the road car classes (until a slight mishap!). These things are absolutely awsome

  • @theohlinsguy4649
    @theohlinsguy4649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Cheap racing is an oxymoron

    • @murraymadness4674
      @murraymadness4674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So true, however, have you ever tried r/c racing? only thing cheaper is probably sim racing, is that really racing?

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who are you calling an ox moron?

    • @RallyAddict555
      @RallyAddict555 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@murraymadness4674i would consider it proper racing, you can learn a lot of theory to prepare yourself for racing irl

  • @murraymadness4674
    @murraymadness4674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The problem with these cars is they handle too well and go too fast. It makes passing difficult, and the fun of racing is not going fast, but passing other cars.
    The INEX legend series 5/8 scale cars are much better and even cheaper ($5k used), and most of all, they have street tires, no wings, and too much power, so they are so hard to drive when you push them too far (which everyone does), so you can pass each other often. watch some videos of them racing on a course (not dirt), very exciting.

  • @Metal05
    @Metal05 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    OMS says the 3000 is £30k! Where did you get bought for less than £10k from?

    • @PGHEngineer
      @PGHEngineer ปีที่แล้ว +3

      2nd hand

    • @reallybigkidd
      @reallybigkidd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The 3000 is 30k but 2000m an older generation car can be picked up for around 10k, there is still a good market of good used 1000cc single seaters for under 10k.

  • @reallybigkidd
    @reallybigkidd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To add to these two we have just bought another Jedi this time a mk6 (second hand) for considerably less than 10k with engine repairs and upgrades it will still be less than 10k

  • @imonlyhereforthecomments4267
    @imonlyhereforthecomments4267 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Subscribed instantly

  • @Placebo6
    @Placebo6 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I almost cried during the video... Best idea ever AND best way to get in o doing projects... If i ever have a son, that would be my first priority.

  • @lewisharman7564
    @lewisharman7564 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    OK Ben

  • @DodosKitchen2012
    @DodosKitchen2012 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Why whenever I find a Formula 1 style motorcycle engined race car it's always a hillclimb car??? Why aren't so many of these babies on race tracks killing it??

    • @reallybigkidd
      @reallybigkidd ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There are many bike engined single seaters circuit racing. F1000uk and monoposto also has a 1000cc class. We went hillclimbing as it’s something we’ve always done. I would like to go circuit racing but the cost is what puts me off.

    • @hamsterbrigade
      @hamsterbrigade 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They're just called formula cars. No need for the formula 1 style statement.

    • @BenRelle
      @BenRelle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apart from there are race series for these, if you're asking why you don't see them on trackdays zipping round chubby road cars because open wheel cars are not allowed on trackdays in general.

  • @mattbayada3011
    @mattbayada3011 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would a larger lad say 110kg and 6 foot tall with large feet fit in one of these?

    • @TheCraigy83
      @TheCraigy83 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      better to make your own if you have 10k laying around, most little cars are gonna be a squeeze your getting on for Jeremy Clarkson size .
      Wheels hubs steering rack seat is 50% the car , chassis is literally few hundred quid of box section + 4mm aluminium sheet + can get a full litre engine from the 2000's for £1k You pay almost half the cost in build fabrication labour there's 6k car there .

  • @Al_is_XXX
    @Al_is_XXX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Fascinating insights, many thanks, great video, subscribed

  • @torevenheim9607
    @torevenheim9607 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice cars😊😊

  • @Roberto.Martini
    @Roberto.Martini 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hw do i buy 1

  • @e14ruturajjadhav37
    @e14ruturajjadhav37 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mannnn i am really interested in this cars building video like a tutorial like that some thing

  • @Obi670
    @Obi670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where could I race it because I’m looking to race after coming second in my karting championship

    • @A-Lovely-Bit-of-Kit
      @A-Lovely-Bit-of-Kit ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In the UK the main race series for these cars is run by the 750 Motor Club, and the cars are also eligible for races organised by the Monoposto club. The 750 MC is a good place to start. I started out in Formula Vee with them before moving onto Formula Ford 2000 with BARC and then the HSCC, ultimately running in what was then called the ARP Formula 3 championship with BARC. I stopped in 2003 so not sure what other options are around currently for someone stepping up from karting, but the 750 club do still offer a good range of championships. Much depends on what you are trying to achieve of course. Hope this helps, John.

    • @thomasberry8873
      @thomasberry8873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      idk if its been helpful to him but it has to me :) @@A-Lovely-Bit-of-Kit

    • @A-Lovely-Bit-of-Kit
      @A-Lovely-Bit-of-Kit ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasberry8873 That's great. Glad it helped.

  • @mbardos
    @mbardos หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yep. It's not a problem.

  • @Carlos_RodriguesS2
    @Carlos_RodriguesS2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool 🇧🇷

  • @jeraldmcwilson2189
    @jeraldmcwilson2189 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm American sir . How much does he pay to race sir.total price for car

    • @mbardos
      @mbardos หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check out Rush SR1 in the US, not sure if you'll find 2nd hand ones though, they being fairly new...

  • @jeraldmcwilson2189
    @jeraldmcwilson2189 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you

  • @LemonDrizzleGang
    @LemonDrizzleGang 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What bhp

    • @reallybigkidd
      @reallybigkidd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The yellow Jedi has 203 as of the start of the year, the white OMS has 195 and we’ve just bought another Jedi fitted with a Yamaha R1 engine which I hope to get to the 190

    • @LemonDrizzleGang
      @LemonDrizzleGang 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@reallybigkidd thank you those are good figures for a gsxr1000

    • @reallybigkidd
      @reallybigkidd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LemonDrizzleGang the engines are a bit of a hybrid sharing parts of the 2017 gsx s1000 and the 2005-2008 GSXR, there is a little bit of performance tweaking inside. It’s a half and half engine I’ve been working on since 2021 which seems to give us great results. Since this video I’ve done a new engine for the Oms so it’s nearly the same spec as the Jedi. I’ve still got more to go with them but I’d rather build reliable than fragile with big power. The Oms has all the gear if we wanted to go to run on methanol. It’s an option but I’ve decided not to use it just yet.

  • @steveindorset
    @steveindorset 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone know why they cover the slick tyres?

    • @7Spot556
      @7Spot556  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They cover them as they are warm and therefore sticky. They'd pick up rubbish and gravel/stones on the way to the start so keep them wrapped to maximise the start

  • @yessir6325
    @yessir6325 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it just me or does the first element on both the upper and lower rear wing look upside down and generating lift instead of downforce?

    • @gunlover92
      @gunlover92 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ya that's crazy. Must be the perspective. I can't see someone building a car like that and not understanding the basics of aerodynamics

    • @yessir6325
      @yessir6325 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gunlover92 maybe it’s like a front diffuser trying to draw more air under for the second element? Like if you look at the two overall the angle of attack is still generating downforce, im guessing not very efficiently… Not sure, I’ve never seen twin elements like that before. Maybe he was a little drunk last time he put the wing together and didn’t notice lmao

  • @12Senna
    @12Senna 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    once nose were pined in front, your leg is gone 😨

    • @Oberon_Boost
      @Oberon_Boost 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't drive a really fast car. It's really dangerous thing.