Blue album: I think I’m in love Pinkerton: You’re starting to seem a little weird snd needy, but you’re good looking, so I’ll overlook it Green album: Thos isn’t working anymore. I think we should see other people Maladroit: Maybe I was too hasty. I’ll give you one more chance Make Believe: Contact me again and I’m calling the cops
Make Believe made me ignore Weezer for 17 years. Just now I'm listening to their more recent albums, and I have to say I'm impressed by some of them. They have a lot of good stuff. And The White Album is awesome.
I love almost all Weezer. This is a lower tier Weezer album for me, but there's so much good stuff. I found myself singing along so many times in this video.
I actually kinda like Make Believe, i just think: This is Such a Pity, Perfect Situation, The Damage in your Heart, Hold Me, The Other Way, Haunt you everyday, and some demos are really REALLY great.
I lived in denial of make believe for a long time. I just recently went through another massive Weezer phase and now I’m starting to actually enjoy it a lot more. Pardon me is a good song, perfect situation is great, and haunt you every day is beautiful
I started jamming MB a lot while waiting for red to come out. (I didn't specifically choose not to listen to MB at release, it's just I was 10, so listening to full albums wasn't a concept to me yet) I fell in love. And I've loved it ever since. If anything, becoming an adult who's been through some crap, it's just gotten better due to how relatable the lyrics are.
When I was a studio intern I actually delivered the 1/4" master tapes with Beverly Hills and a couple other songs to Rick Rubin's house which had the scariest steep driveway. Apparently the album ended up using a different a mix for Beverly Hills, which ended up on the video and my boss was kind of pissed. But I literally held part of that album in my hands and gave it to Rick's assistant. Unfortunately, the song quality was out of my control.
I think that's how many weezer fans feel. My ex girlfriend said once "you say you like weezer but you kind of don't. You like a couple of weezer albums and really, really dislike a lot of them." Which is true, honestly.
i loved the original band from the mid-90s (1st two albums, with matt sharp - favorite weezer member, & liked the rentals' 1st album almost equally to weezer)...then liked the green album comeback (with new bassist mikey - he was funny, but quickly quit/then died:(...have never like scott shriner much, as he's too cool to be in a nerd band, but a few recent tracks off select albums are pretty good/catchy - rivers might have over-saturated his own market by releasing too much material that waters down the quality/legacy of weezer's catalogue (& it's surprising they don't even have a 'greatest hits' collection yet, with the equivalent of 18+ albums of music, over the course of 30+ years)...
Literally Weezer fans call maladroit an underrated gem so many times it’s not even an unpopular opinion anymore. Maladroit is just ight, it has a few good songs but overall in my opinion it’s just OK
I dont even think people necessarily hate it. It was just overlooked and not as great as the first two, though it's still a solid album and far from the worst in their catalogue, its definitely got it fans
Watched this video thinking you were a relatively popular channel, but you only have 11 subs? Your editing is great, and it's obvious that you put a lot of work and research into this video. I hope to see more content from your channel! :)
@@CarlyMaze well isn't that the case with almost every band? Peak creativity in music happens when you're young. Then starts to decline. Overall Rivers is very above average because he's still reinventing himself and composing great songs.
@@CarlyMaze I agree with you, but I enjoy even some of the "sell out" songs like Feels Like Summer, and I like some of the Black Album. You can't say "High As a Kite" is a bad song. I also enjoy "I'm Just Being Honest". I don't expect they will come up with another Pinkerton or Blue Album. But as long as they release a hidden gem here and there, it's good.
Probably the most in-depth breakdown of this album. It's extremely appreciated because I've always had a love hate relationship with this album. I like the hooks and sometimes the melodies but the rest of the production came off as lazy and I understand completely why now. Great video
@gnome from pinkerton so you’re saying hold me, this is such a pity, the other way and pardon me are all bad songs? There is literally NOTHING wrong with them, it’s not like the music is actually bad like raditude, PD and black
I bought Pinkerton on release day back in ‘96. I bought it after school at the Target across the street from my high school. I loved it then, and I love it now!!
I remember buying the cassette and rushing to my friends house and popping it in. Was blown away, I was 14. Specifically remember being stoked that they went into a "punk beat" on El Scorcho lmao
Same. Walked to a store I. My town called Words and Music after school my senior year. I actually only really love the first two albums and instantly loved Pinkerton. Convinced that Matt Sharp is a vital reason for those two albums being as good as they are.
So random that I stumbled upon these videos as I am currently going through a re-discovery of Weezer. I decided to start going back through their catalog and giving their post-Maladroit records a second chance. These videos are a great little backstory to the albums as I revisit them. Cheers!
Exact same thing for me lol. I listened to Make Believe for the first time yesterday. I really don't like Green and Maladroit and I was feeling the same way about Make Believe but when I heard Peace I was like, "wait... do I like Weezer again?" I really liked the rest of the album. I don't have much hope for the rest of their discography. I'll always love Weezer for Blue and Pinkerton though.
A really excellent video, I never looked into the history of this album and I never realized how interesting it is. The video is also presented in a really entertaining way with good writing and editing which only made it even better. Love it!
Man, I knew people didn't like Make Believe, but I didn't realize it was hated as much as it is. It's been my favorite Weezer album since I heard it back in 2005
It's not my favorite, but I do view it as essential Weezer. It's become my Pinkerton in a lot of ways. People used to hate on Pinkerton when it first came out, but I loved it. Now Pinkerton is over-rated as a Weezer album can get, and I (not so) secretly love Make Believe. The Other Way is just as good if not better than anything to come off Pinkerton and IMO fits quite nicely as a compliment to In The Garage. That said, I pretty much will not listen to Beverly Hills, but I also won't listen to Dope Nose, or Hash Pipe either.
Amazing video! Make Believe has always striked me as a pop mess of an album with a few good cuts and it trying to be Green x Pinkerton kind of explains it
Their style of recording plays a huge role in that. So many songs begin as Rivers-only demos, which he gladly releases, but the full band recordings tend to fall into obscurity because the label doesn’t prioritize them
Yes. I like this album! Favorites: Perfect Situation, This Is Such A Pity, Hold Me, Peace, We Are All On Drugs, Pardon Me, My Best Friend, Freak Me Out, Haunt You Every Day Least Favorites: Beverly Hills, The Damage In Your Heart, The Other Way
Loved the effort you put into little editing gags! Never listened to a lick of Weezer and you kept the video interesting and engaging all the way through, great work ^^
Honestly, besides Haunt You Everyday, I didn’t really care much for Make Believe when I first listened to it. Going through the Demos and coming back to it recently, I’ve found a new appreciation for this album, and I quite like it besides Beverly Hills (just not exactly my cup of tea, there). Make believe is still in the lower half of their Discography for me, I think, but I like that I now can at least say that Make Believe really *isn’t* all that bad, even if it’s not perfect. My opinion on Make Believe aside, this was quite a nice video, I enjoyed the further insight on the Album and it’s evolution up to release, and the presentation over all. Keep up the good work.
Wow this was really cool to watch! I’m definitely in the minority when I say this is my favorite Weezer album. Though it was cool to learn about the whole process for this album! How you don’t have more subscribers is beyond me but you gained one with this video. Great job 👍
I dig about half of the album. Perfect Situation and Haunt You Everyday are highlights. The demo versions are better as are the demo versions of most of the songs that made it, especially the This Is Such a Pity one. Freak Me Out is a dumb song lyrically, but I’ve always loved the melody of it. Also I didn’t know about that strange connection Rivers had to Elliot Smith. I always felt he had a bit of a similar tortured soul in him as a songwriter but refuses to let it out often. Hoping one day he lets it all out. Heard him describe the upcoming Winter album they’re doing as being inspired by Smith so who knows. Last thing…Maladroit is great.
While I appreciate the absurdist version of Weezer today, the music hasn't done much for me in a long, long time. I go back and listen to those first two The Rentals albums and I wonder what post-Pinkerton Weezer would be if things had worked out with Matt Sharp. It doesn't seem like the rest of the band has that much sway over Rivers. They just kind of tie themselves to something sturdy and try to ride out the storms which predictably end with a mish mash of sad boy rock and vapid pop hits. He doesn't seem to move anything forward. Matt Sharp has plenty of his own sad boy songs with The Rentals, but he was wrapping them in weird metaphors and being way more innovative and experimental with the sound. That kind of influence in Weezer would have made a huge difference.
@death to the suburbs totally. The only Rentals stuff that I couldn't get into is the most recent stuff because it lacked what makes things The Rentals to me. Alphaville is certainly less accessible than Return and Seven More Minutes, but there was still a core to it. If those two guys could have coexisted better, I ink we would have ended up with some amazing music.
blue isnt intentionally power pop, in fact power pop is a made up journalism term, it’s a niche that over time got its audience and created bands trying to capture a specific sound into a genre, today there’s many bands from the 2000s and after giving power pop its own genre (basically recapture early beatles short pop songs with hooks songwritting and avoiding long guitar solos, the anti pretentious genre if you will) taking influence from elvis costello (at the time named new wave but now is revisited power pop) weezer BY NO MEANS created blue album listening to the rasperries or cheap trick, sure ric ocasek produced it and they loved the cars - but that’s another band who when it came out was titled as new wave, since like i said power pop was never an actual movement, you’ll never find any fans from that era claiming to be into power pop or power pop reviews with concrete references to what power pop is if you will, it’s a bit of a revisionism effect blue album has songs like only in dreams which couldn’t be further far away from music such as rasperries or cheap trick and some very vulnerable lyrics , what kind of power pop band sings about staying in the garage playing dungeons and dragons? at the end of the day the point is that blue album is a product of its era, more so heavily influenced by nirvana and especially pixies with the touch of bringing beach boys harmonies onto all that, rivers has most likely never listened to rasperries or cheap trick and i wish this narrative stopped which is ironic coming from someone who is fascinated and a fan of the made up power pop pop genre, if anything green album with its repeated formula and no long solos is more power pop than blue ever was
@@Weremoogle thank you! im surprised of the positive feedback actually, usually people don’t wanna hear it any other way, this and that is power pop bc everyone says it! but none of them can make sense into it and break it down.. all smoke and mirrors
I was in a band when Make Believe came out, the three of us in the band all loved Weezer and I remember us sitting down in front of the frontman's computer and watching the video for Beverly Hills for the first time. We were horrified. Make Believe put me off Weezer until Van Weezer came out. I tried listening to albums over the years, and aside from the first half of the Red album, nothing really hit me as being decent. I hated Raditude, don't remember a single track from Hurley or Death to False Metal, and Everything will Be Alright In The End and the White Album struck me as very middle of the road. Precious Metal Girl got me listening again, and I'm enjoying SZNZ so far. Though when all is said and done I predict that they will have one good album's worth of songs stretched over four releases with a lot of filler.
Beverly hills introduced me to Weezer. I really liked that song when I was 13 in 2005. my sister bought me the album for my birthday and I remember thinking it was pretty terrible.It didn't rock like Beverly hilld. Luckily not soon later I discovered blue/Pinkerton through lime wire and 17 years later weezers still one of my favorite bands. My take is that they've been really inconsistent with their albums(but not in a bad way). They like to experiment and honestly it's usually not my cup of tea when they stray from the style that made me fall in love with them. I absolutely love "everything will be alright in the end," "ok human," and "van weezer," but I cant listen to anything off of the black album, pacific daydream, and so far the seasons albums they're currently working on.
Very high quality work. Can tell you're a very creative and dynamic creator. Looking forward to your future stuff. My only suggestion is you that should maybe turn up the volume on the background music a little bit, it's in this awkward zone where it's discernible enough that I notice it, but not quiet to the point where I can't tune it out.
@@MarcButEvilhey brother, just discovered your channel now with this video and I subscribed because I liked your analysis and your narration and I thought you had excellent editing skills for a new content creator, definitely looking forward to seeing how your channel grows and develops
I know you needed to wrap the video up in the retrospective section, but you sort of swept the rest of their albums under the rug to make it seem like after Make Believe there’s a definitive view of the band. The production, reception, and changing reevaluation of the their material after Make Believe isn’t cut and dry and continues to change today
It’s a messy record, but one I’ve got a lot of love for. Sure, it drags a bit in the second half, the lyrics are cheesy as hell and there’s some actually awful songs on there, but it’s still a fun pop rock record and you can tell Rivers genuinely took these songs from his heart, as simple and corny as they might be. There’s a lot of charm to it in a way, I could never hate this album. It helped me through some rough spots and I hold it close because of that
Also didn’t know Rivers volunteered for Angel Food. Imagine if you’re on your death bed and then the funny Weezer man kicks in the door carrying a plate of freshly cooked beef stew
I wouldn't describe Blue as Power Pop. That sort of music is jangly, and richer with vocal harmonies and are overtly more influenced by The Beatles, The Beach Boys, The Who, and whomever was popular in the early to mid 60s. Blue sounds like Nevermind with great harmonies and nerdiness.
I would totally describe Blue as power pop. Power pop, like almost all other guitar driven music, followed the general trend of getting more distorted over time. Big Star’s guitars were clear and jangly in the 70s, The Replacements had crunchy overdriven guitars but kept a little bit of that old brightness, and Weezer went all in on the distortion. Power pop is more of a songwriting style to me; lots of iii and vi chords and harmonies
I always thought that Make Believe was a very 'lazy' album because it feels just so...lazy. But learning about how troubled the production was, it certainly makes a lot more sense why the album feels that way to me. Its not that they didn't try, its that they had to pur everything through a blender to fit it into the album.
I think this was about the time I tuned out. I wasn't the only one not feeling it apparently. I'm rediscovering them now and they have been hella busy since. I mean recording 4 albums THIS YEAR holy shit. And their discography will always remind how crazy people were for the TV show LOST. Great video, great channel, much success, have subscribed.
My plan was to eventually do Black Hole in the same video as Pinkerton (kinda like how I did with Ecce Homo in my EWBAITE video), but looking into it more I think it’s worth it’s own video. Thanks for the suggestion!
Even in the failures, Weezer is still incredibly interesting. Every album and song help to understand River's complex mind, and I think it's really cool. And timeless.
The B-sides to this "Dark Belief" ain't too shabby and it's funny cause I've always described it as Pinkerton meets Green before hearing that about Make Believe...it all makes sense now
Wow.. we all have opinions. Mine is that maladroit kicks the crap out of those bubble gum autopilot let's sell and not be unique music abomination dribble. Both albums do have goods songs sprinkled in but as a whole album.. they are weak
As far as Beverly Hills goes it’s greatest achievement was getting a cover featured on the simpsons in the episode where Lisa goes to a private school in waverly hills. if I recall correctly they got weezer in to sing it with the lyrics changed to suit the episode
I lmao'd at the origin of Freak Me Out. I remember loving it in highschool and think it was such High Art at the time when it was just about some guy Freaking out about a spider
marc, i cannot begin to state how much appreciation i have for you and your content. it is continuously rewatchable. ...i like to have a show with dinner. thank you for providing that show. (:
I love The Green Album, I love Maladroit, I love Make Believe. I saw Weezer live on the tour for Make Believe. It was one of the best shows I've ever been to.
There’s been a good song here, a good song there, but overall, album1(blue) and album 2(Pinkerton), we’re their best era.The majority of music that follows sounds way too corporate, poppy, and just plain average. There was a very raw magic in those first 2 albums. Maybe it was sharpe and his influence, or maybe it was simply their development at the time. And I wish it stayed like that for a few more albums.
Nothing to do with Matt Sharp. It's just that Rivers got old. Peak creativity in music happens when you're very young. Even so, Rivers is still composing great songs to this day.
@@marioncobretti5970 it has nothing to do with the obvious changes that happened to the music that came when Matt left..... Keep telling yourself that. The fact is this: Weezer has been hot garbage since he left.
@@boofert.washington2499 correlation doesn't mean causation. Matt Sharp was not the composer of Weezer songs, and the fact that Pinkerton was not well received affected Rivers and the band a lot more than Sharp's exit. THey went on a huge hiatus after Pinkerton. And to say they are garbage since he left it's just stupid and wrong. You probably didn't even listen to all the records.
@death to the suburbs 35 is already old for music most of the times. I didn't say exceptions couldn't exist. David Bowie composed his best album when he was 25. Maybe Rivers can compose a good album when he's 69, but I doubt it will be better than the Blue Album.
Make Believe is the album that got me into Weezer. I’ve now fallen away since the cover album but the first pressing of Make Believe doesn’t deserve all the hate.
Make Believe is the first album I bought and immediately disliked. I remember driving home that summer day and thinking, “What the fuck am I listening to?” It’s been more than 15 years and I still hate it. I hate it because it’s genuinely bad and I hate it because it was the beginning of the end of one of my favourite bands.
Even Though I Still Hate “Beverly Hills” To This Day, This, And To Some Extent “Red”, They Were My Official Entry Points Into Getting Into Their Music. Yeah, I Already Knew Of “Undone” And “Island” Being Constantly Played On Radio (Hell, The First Video I Saw Of The Was For “Keep Fishin’”, Because I Love The Muppets), But I Never Really Bothered To Check Them Out Until Much Later. I Still Have Very Soft Spots For Both Of Those Albums. I Love “Peace” And “This Is Such A Pity”, And Fuck, “We Are All On Drugs” Is Such A Fun Song To Play On Bass! I Make No Apologies In Like This Particular Era Of The Band. Great Video 🤍
Maladroit was a good and underrated album. And obviously the first two were great. I was kind of done with Weezer when they put out the Beverly Hills single. They lost credibility with me as artists. That song was clearly a gimmick and was put out to make money to have Beverly Hills type money ironically. I still cringe every time I hear it. They just got a little too wonky and silly as their career progressed. Make Believe had some good tracks on it though it wasnt all bad. Haunt You Everyday is one of their best songs IMO.
When you watch the documentary Get Back, three months to whip an album into shape with songs that are basically already written being a problem seems like a joke.
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I wouldn't even bat an eyelid if Rivers was revealed to sleep in a racecar bed
I mean who wouldn’t if you had the choice?
@@KasperHatesLifeI'd rather sleep in a big bed with my wife.
He has a CB and talks to other racecar beds.
he has a wife, does she have her own race car bed or do they share one.
Blue album: I think I’m in love
Pinkerton: You’re starting to seem a little weird snd needy, but you’re good looking, so I’ll overlook it
Green album: Thos isn’t working anymore. I think we should see other people
Maladroit: Maybe I was too hasty. I’ll give you one more chance
Make Believe: Contact me again and I’m calling the cops
Nicely done good Sir.
Keep going
Make Believe made me ignore Weezer for 17 years. Just now I'm listening to their more recent albums, and I have to say I'm impressed by some of them. They have a lot of good stuff. And The White Album is awesome.
Raditude: They're the GOAT
More like, Make Believe: OK I PROMISE ILL NEVER LEAVE AGAIN BBY
I love almost all Weezer. This is a lower tier Weezer album for me, but there's so much good stuff. I found myself singing along so many times in this video.
I agree so much Cz, I actually love The Other way and Beverly Hills obvi
CZ in the wild!
I actually kinda like Make Believe, i just think: This is Such a Pity, Perfect Situation, The Damage in your Heart, Hold Me, The Other Way, Haunt you everyday, and some demos are really REALLY great.
"How one album ruined Weezer's reputation"
This literally happened 15 times tf you mean
That 15 doesnt count the christmas album thus christmas with weezer is yet again the best weezer album
I lived in denial of make believe for a long time. I just recently went through another massive Weezer phase and now I’m starting to actually enjoy it a lot more. Pardon me is a good song, perfect situation is great, and haunt you every day is beautiful
@@Ryan-rn3cf gotta love Sloan
I started jamming MB a lot while waiting for red to come out. (I didn't specifically choose not to listen to MB at release, it's just I was 10, so listening to full albums wasn't a concept to me yet) I fell in love. And I've loved it ever since. If anything, becoming an adult who's been through some crap, it's just gotten better due to how relatable the lyrics are.
3 out of 12 is... well, it's bad. sure. but it could have been... 0 out of 12? eh?
@@ToneSherpa it’s closer to 6/12 for me
peace is great too
When I was a studio intern I actually delivered the 1/4" master tapes with Beverly Hills and a couple other songs to Rick Rubin's house which had the scariest steep driveway. Apparently the album ended up using a different a mix for Beverly Hills, which ended up on the video and my boss was kind of pissed. But I literally held part of that album in my hands and gave it to Rick's assistant. Unfortunately, the song quality was out of my control.
Weezer is a weird band for me because I like them and don’t at the same time
Same
Same tbh
I think that's how many weezer fans feel.
My ex girlfriend said once "you say you like weezer but you kind of don't. You like a couple of weezer albums and really, really dislike a lot of them."
Which is true, honestly.
@@medes5597 Yeah I even went and saw them and it was really an awesome concert but I still don’t know if I LIKE them haha
i loved the original band from the mid-90s (1st two albums, with matt sharp - favorite weezer member, & liked the rentals' 1st album almost equally to weezer)...then liked the green album comeback (with new bassist mikey - he was funny, but quickly quit/then died:(...have never like scott shriner much, as he's too cool to be in a nerd band, but a few recent tracks off select albums are pretty good/catchy - rivers might have over-saturated his own market by releasing too much material that waters down the quality/legacy of weezer's catalogue (& it's surprising they don't even have a 'greatest hits' collection yet, with the equivalent of 18+ albums of music, over the course of 30+ years)...
i hate how maladroit is hated when it’s such a diverse and great album
I love how big and stadium-y it sounds
Literally Weezer fans call maladroit an underrated gem so many times it’s not even an unpopular opinion anymore. Maladroit is just ight, it has a few good songs but overall in my opinion it’s just OK
@@UrScum i respect it. Weezer is very much a hit or miss band.
I love Maladroit, but I’m not sure I’d describe it as “varied”
I dont even think people necessarily hate it. It was just overlooked and not as great as the first two, though it's still a solid album and far from the worst in their catalogue, its definitely got it fans
calling Rivers the god emperor of Weezer instantly got me in... great video mate
Watched this video thinking you were a relatively popular channel, but you only have 11 subs? Your editing is great, and it's obvious that you put a lot of work and research into this video. I hope to see more content from your channel! :)
First 2 albums are essential. Everything beyond has some merit but nothing touches the one two punch classics of Blue and Pinkerton.
Yahtzee!
White is pretty good, almost as good as the first 2.
@@CarlyMaze well isn't that the case with almost every band? Peak creativity in music happens when you're young. Then starts to decline. Overall Rivers is very above average because he's still reinventing himself and composing great songs.
@@CarlyMaze I agree with you, but I enjoy even some of the "sell out" songs like Feels Like Summer, and I like some of the Black Album. You can't say "High As a Kite" is a bad song. I also enjoy "I'm Just Being Honest". I don't expect they will come up with another Pinkerton or Blue Album. But as long as they release a hidden gem here and there, it's good.
the one two punch of Everything Will Be Alright In The End and White is close
Probably the most in-depth breakdown of this album. It's extremely appreciated because I've always had a love hate relationship with this album. I like the hooks and sometimes the melodies but the rest of the production came off as lazy and I understand completely why now. Great video
Make Believe is an absolute banger. So was Everything will be alright in the end.
@gnome from pinkerton 3 garbage tracks*
MB is their best album imo.
@gnome from pinkerton so you’re saying hold me, this is such a pity, the other way and pardon me are all bad songs? There is literally NOTHING wrong with them, it’s not like the music is actually bad like raditude, PD and black
you're wrong
I like it too.
I bought Pinkerton on release day back in ‘96. I bought it after school at the Target across the street from my high school. I loved it then, and I love it now!!
I don’t understand how Pinkerton isn’t considered a classic by everyone. Great on release, still amazing today.
Real ones got it
I remember buying the cassette and rushing to my friends house and popping it in. Was blown away, I was 14. Specifically remember being stoked that they went into a "punk beat" on El Scorcho lmao
Same. Walked to a store I. My town called Words and Music after school my senior year. I actually only really love the first two albums and instantly loved Pinkerton. Convinced that Matt Sharp is a vital reason for those two albums being as good as they are.
Pinkerton is basically the last good album they made.
So random that I stumbled upon these videos as I am currently going through a re-discovery of Weezer. I decided to start going back through their catalog and giving their post-Maladroit records a second chance. These videos are a great little backstory to the albums as I revisit them. Cheers!
Exact same thing for me lol. I listened to Make Believe for the first time yesterday. I really don't like Green and Maladroit and I was feeling the same way about Make Believe but when I heard Peace I was like, "wait... do I like Weezer again?" I really liked the rest of the album. I don't have much hope for the rest of their discography. I'll always love Weezer for Blue and Pinkerton though.
A really excellent video, I never looked into the history of this album and I never realized how interesting it is. The video is also presented in a really entertaining way with good writing and editing which only made it even better. Love it!
He mispronounced “Ric Ocasek”. That’s pretty much a major bitch and doesn’t make it “excellent”.
Man, I knew people didn't like Make Believe, but I didn't realize it was hated as much as it is. It's been my favorite Weezer album since I heard it back in 2005
It's not my favorite, but I do view it as essential Weezer. It's become my Pinkerton in a lot of ways. People used to hate on Pinkerton when it first came out, but I loved it. Now Pinkerton is over-rated as a Weezer album can get, and I (not so) secretly love Make Believe. The Other Way is just as good if not better than anything to come off Pinkerton and IMO fits quite nicely as a compliment to In The Garage.
That said, I pretty much will not listen to Beverly Hills, but I also won't listen to Dope Nose, or Hash Pipe either.
Amazing video! Make Believe has always striked me as a pop mess of an album with a few good cuts and it trying to be Green x Pinkerton kind of explains it
Watching videos like this make me realize that Weezer has A LOT of music that hasn’t been released.
Can't decide if good or a bad thing tho 😂
Their style of recording plays a huge role in that. So many songs begin as Rivers-only demos, which he gladly releases, but the full band recordings tend to fall into obscurity because the label doesn’t prioritize them
Yes. I like this album!
Favorites: Perfect Situation, This Is Such A Pity, Hold Me, Peace, We Are All On Drugs, Pardon Me, My Best Friend, Freak Me Out, Haunt You Every Day
Least Favorites: Beverly Hills, The Damage In Your Heart, The Other Way
My favorites: Perfect Situation, This is Such a Pity, We Are All on Drugs, and Haunt You Every Day. Those four still slap to this day.
this is incredibly well made good job man
Dude this channel is amazing, thanks for making these videos.
Loved the effort you put into little editing gags!
Never listened to a lick of Weezer and you kept the video interesting and engaging all the way through, great work ^^
Honestly, besides Haunt You Everyday, I didn’t really care much for Make Believe when I first listened to it. Going through the Demos and coming back to it recently, I’ve found a new appreciation for this album, and I quite like it besides Beverly Hills (just not exactly my cup of tea, there). Make believe is still in the lower half of their Discography for me, I think, but I like that I now can at least say that Make Believe really *isn’t* all that bad, even if it’s not perfect. My opinion on Make Believe aside, this was quite a nice video, I enjoyed the further insight on the Album and it’s evolution up to release, and the presentation over all. Keep up the good work.
Always loved Make Believe. Thanks for covering it.
I hold the unpopular opinion that Red is a fantastic album. I love it.
It grew on me. Especially the deluxe version.
Red is super underrated
It is for sure
No offense but drink my blood.
You may love it but that doesn't make it fantastic tho.
Wow this was really cool to watch! I’m definitely in the minority when I say this is my favorite Weezer album. Though it was cool to learn about the whole process for this album! How you don’t have more subscribers is beyond me but you gained one with this video. Great job 👍
NO WAY?! Long lost brother, is that you? Finally someone like me 😂
I dig about half of the album. Perfect Situation and Haunt You Everyday are highlights. The demo versions are better as are the demo versions of most of the songs that made it, especially the This Is Such a Pity one. Freak Me Out is a dumb song lyrically, but I’ve always loved the melody of it.
Also I didn’t know about that strange connection Rivers had to Elliot Smith. I always felt he had a bit of a similar tortured soul in him as a songwriter but refuses to let it out often. Hoping one day he lets it all out. Heard him describe the upcoming Winter album they’re doing as being inspired by Smith so who knows.
Last thing…Maladroit is great.
The ending conclusion is awesome ha ha. Kudos bro
Hey man you’re going places, amazing video
Great video!! Waiting for the Haunt you Everyday video
Maladroit might be my favorite Weezer album. I really enjoyed make believe as well.
While I appreciate the absurdist version of Weezer today, the music hasn't done much for me in a long, long time. I go back and listen to those first two The Rentals albums and I wonder what post-Pinkerton Weezer would be if things had worked out with Matt Sharp. It doesn't seem like the rest of the band has that much sway over Rivers. They just kind of tie themselves to something sturdy and try to ride out the storms which predictably end with a mish mash of sad boy rock and vapid pop hits. He doesn't seem to move anything forward. Matt Sharp has plenty of his own sad boy songs with The Rentals, but he was wrapping them in weird metaphors and being way more innovative and experimental with the sound. That kind of influence in Weezer would have made a huge difference.
@death to the suburbs totally. The only Rentals stuff that I couldn't get into is the most recent stuff because it lacked what makes things The Rentals to me. Alphaville is certainly less accessible than Return and Seven More Minutes, but there was still a core to it. If those two guys could have coexisted better, I ink we would have ended up with some amazing music.
blue isnt intentionally power pop, in fact power pop is a made up journalism term, it’s a niche that over time got its audience and created bands trying to capture a specific sound into a genre, today there’s many bands from the 2000s and after giving power pop its own genre (basically recapture early beatles short pop songs with hooks songwritting and avoiding long guitar solos, the anti pretentious genre if you will) taking influence from elvis costello (at the time named new wave but now is revisited power pop)
weezer BY NO MEANS created blue album listening to the rasperries or cheap trick, sure ric ocasek produced it and they loved the cars - but that’s another band who when it came out was titled as new wave, since like i said power pop was never an actual movement, you’ll never find any fans from that era claiming to be into power pop or power pop reviews with concrete references to what power pop is if you will, it’s a bit of a revisionism effect
blue album has songs like only in dreams which couldn’t be further far away from music such as rasperries or cheap trick and some very vulnerable lyrics , what kind of power pop band sings about staying in the garage playing dungeons and dragons?
at the end of the day the point is that blue album is a product of its era, more so heavily influenced by nirvana and especially pixies with the touch of bringing beach boys harmonies onto all that, rivers has most likely never listened to rasperries or cheap trick and i wish this narrative stopped
which is ironic coming from someone who is fascinated and a fan of the made up power pop pop genre, if anything green album with its repeated formula and no long solos is more power pop than blue ever was
Well said.
@@Weremoogle thank you! im surprised of the positive feedback actually, usually people don’t wanna hear it any other way, this and that is power pop bc everyone says it! but none of them can make sense into it and break it down.. all smoke and mirrors
"made up genre" all genres are made up!
I was in a band when Make Believe came out, the three of us in the band all loved Weezer and I remember us sitting down in front of the frontman's computer and watching the video for Beverly Hills for the first time. We were horrified. Make Believe put me off Weezer until Van Weezer came out. I tried listening to albums over the years, and aside from the first half of the Red album, nothing really hit me as being decent. I hated Raditude, don't remember a single track from Hurley or Death to False Metal, and Everything will Be Alright In The End and the White Album struck me as very middle of the road. Precious Metal Girl got me listening again, and I'm enjoying SZNZ so far. Though when all is said and done I predict that they will have one good album's worth of songs stretched over four releases with a lot of filler.
What about ok human!? Its phenomenal!!!
I confess I have not heard that one
Van Weezer is garbage though. White Album is a lot better.
Haunt You Every Day feels like Pinkerton’s version of Only in Dreams
You beat me to it! Nice video!
Damn this is really high quality for how new the channel is, good video dude
Truly love your channel. Keep doing the good work👌
Beverly hills introduced me to Weezer. I really liked that song when I was 13 in 2005. my sister bought me the album for my birthday and I remember thinking it was pretty terrible.It didn't rock like Beverly hilld. Luckily not soon later I discovered blue/Pinkerton through lime wire and 17 years later weezers still one of my favorite bands. My take is that they've been really inconsistent with their albums(but not in a bad way). They like to experiment and honestly it's usually not my cup of tea when they stray from the style that made me fall in love with them. I absolutely love "everything will be alright in the end," "ok human," and "van weezer," but I cant listen to anything off of the black album, pacific daydream, and so far the seasons albums they're currently working on.
Damn that chorus for "tell me what you did" was really really good
" tell me what you did" the chorus of the song is amazing
You just earned a subscriber. Love the musical cues, (Austin Powers/Always Sunny) the humor, and the wealth of knowledge. Great content.
I love this channel so much its insane
I’m glad I got recommend this! You’ve earned a sub! I’m looking forward to more videos in the future!
I never give weezer albums a good listen through anymore so videos like this pique my curiosity. Just took a listen and it’s pretty good.
This is such a good video like holy crap
I don't really have anything else to add all the other comments just put it so well
Very high quality work. Can tell you're a very creative and dynamic creator. Looking forward to your future stuff. My only suggestion is you that should maybe turn up the volume on the background music a little bit, it's in this awkward zone where it's discernible enough that I notice it, but not quiet to the point where I can't tune it out.
That’s a good suggestion! I can’t help but agree. Also, I totally dig your videos! I look forward to seeing your future stuff as well.
@@MarcButEvilhey brother, just discovered your channel now with this video and I subscribed because I liked your analysis and your narration and I thought you had excellent editing skills for a new content creator, definitely looking forward to seeing how your channel grows and develops
I know you needed to wrap the video up in the retrospective section, but you sort of swept the rest of their albums under the rug to make it seem like after Make Believe there’s a definitive view of the band.
The production, reception, and changing reevaluation of the their material after Make Believe isn’t cut and dry and continues to change today
It’s a messy record, but one I’ve got a lot of love for. Sure, it drags a bit in the second half, the lyrics are cheesy as hell and there’s some actually awful songs on there, but it’s still a fun pop rock record and you can tell Rivers genuinely took these songs from his heart, as simple and corny as they might be. There’s a lot of charm to it in a way, I could never hate this album. It helped me through some rough spots and I hold it close because of that
Also didn’t know Rivers volunteered for Angel Food. Imagine if you’re on your death bed and then the funny Weezer man kicks in the door carrying a plate of freshly cooked beef stew
Bro basically went "sure he killed millions of people, yeah he oppressed virtually every group of people, but he really loved his dog" like??? What
Good point, counterpoint: the "hard working yet still faulty" charm isn't available anymore when this is their fucking sixth or something
Could this not be said about any other Weezer albums though?
@@man4437 are you comparing a Weezer album to a dictatorship? Fuck are you on
I wouldn't describe Blue as Power Pop. That sort of music is jangly, and richer with vocal harmonies and are overtly more influenced by The Beatles, The Beach Boys, The Who, and whomever was popular in the early to mid 60s. Blue sounds like Nevermind with great harmonies and nerdiness.
I would totally describe Blue as power pop. Power pop, like almost all other guitar driven music, followed the general trend of getting more distorted over time. Big Star’s guitars were clear and jangly in the 70s, The Replacements had crunchy overdriven guitars but kept a little bit of that old brightness, and Weezer went all in on the distortion. Power pop is more of a songwriting style to me; lots of iii and vi chords and harmonies
Just cane a across your channel and are enjoying the videos. Keep up the good work!
Awesome video. I listen to the make believe demos all the time.
I always thought that Make Believe was a very 'lazy' album because it feels just so...lazy. But learning about how troubled the production was, it certainly makes a lot more sense why the album feels that way to me. Its not that they didn't try, its that they had to pur everything through a blender to fit it into the album.
Maladroit is my second favorite Weezer album
I think this was about the time I tuned out. I wasn't the only one not feeling it apparently. I'm rediscovering them now and they have been hella busy since. I mean recording 4 albums THIS YEAR holy shit.
And their discography will always remind how crazy people were for the TV show LOST.
Great video, great channel, much success, have subscribed.
Fucking dying that freak me out was originally about a spider that fact has made my week
I prefer Green to Make Believe for sure, but Maladroit is the best of 2000’s official output
Dead on!
My man, this video slaps. Well done, instant subcription.
ps Think you would ever make a video on Songs from the Black Hole? might be dope :>)
My plan was to eventually do Black Hole in the same video as Pinkerton (kinda like how I did with Ecce Homo in my EWBAITE video), but looking into it more I think it’s worth it’s own video. Thanks for the suggestion!
the initial version of Perfect Situation is still one of my favorite Weezer songs
Agreed.
Even in the failures, Weezer is still incredibly interesting.
Every album and song help to understand River's complex mind, and I think it's really cool.
And timeless.
Narrator sounds like he's British but lives in America now
It throws me off how he says Rick Ocasek
Cuz he speaks proper English?
@@bobsbigboy_ever heard of dialects
ive always ignored this album other than a few songs but i rly loved the editing and research in this, im definitely checking out the demos .
The B-sides to this "Dark Belief" ain't too shabby and it's funny cause I've always described it as Pinkerton meets Green before hearing that about Make Believe...it all makes sense now
I actually loved Make Believe far more than Maladroit or even Green
Wow.. we all have opinions. Mine is that maladroit kicks the crap out of those bubble gum autopilot let's sell and not be unique music abomination dribble. Both albums do have goods songs sprinkled in but as a whole album.. they are weak
Cheers to you saying something good about Haunt You Every Day. My favourite on Make Believe. In my opinion, quite overlooked.
Weird that I've been listening to the blue album (on CD) for the last few weeks, and now I'm getting Weezer vids like this recommended to me 👀
As far as Beverly Hills goes it’s greatest achievement was getting a cover featured on the simpsons in the episode where Lisa goes to a private school in waverly hills. if I recall correctly they got weezer in to sing it with the lyrics changed to suit the episode
Yo excellent video, gonna binge your channel now
They started making music that they thought people liked instead of being who they are
Love this album! Actually, this's one of my favorite Weezer albums
I lmao'd at the origin of Freak Me Out.
I remember loving it in highschool and think it was such High Art at the time when it was just about some guy Freaking out about a spider
I disagree. Make Believe didn’t help things but in my opinion Raditude solidified Weezer’s downfall.
The easy answer is they went pop rock and never looked back. That was the issue. The edge was lost.
Why’s pop rock bad?
@@yourcommentisntfunnyv2709 formulaic polished dog shite.
marc, i cannot begin to state how much appreciation i have for you and your content. it is continuously rewatchable.
...i like to have a show with dinner. thank you for providing that show. (:
Idk what people think about it. I love this album, period.
I just discovered your channel. I like it alot
I love The Green Album, I love Maladroit, I love Make Believe. I saw Weezer live on the tour for Make Believe. It was one of the best shows I've ever been to.
best youtube channel, a true weezer warrior
Beverly Hills is not a great song but the talk box part was always cool.
I always liked Perfect Situation.
There’s been a good song here, a good song there, but overall, album1(blue) and album 2(Pinkerton), we’re their best era.The majority of music that follows sounds way too corporate, poppy, and just plain average. There was a very raw magic in those first 2 albums. Maybe it was sharpe and his influence, or maybe it was simply their development at the time. And I wish it stayed like that for a few more albums.
Nothing to do with Matt Sharp. It's just that Rivers got old. Peak creativity in music happens when you're very young. Even so, Rivers is still composing great songs to this day.
@@marioncobretti5970 it has nothing to do with the obvious changes that happened to the music that came when Matt left.....
Keep telling yourself that. The fact is this: Weezer has been hot garbage since he left.
@@boofert.washington2499 correlation doesn't mean causation. Matt Sharp was not the composer of Weezer songs, and the fact that Pinkerton was not well received affected Rivers and the band a lot more than Sharp's exit. THey went on a huge hiatus after Pinkerton. And to say they are garbage since he left it's just stupid and wrong. You probably didn't even listen to all the records.
@death to the suburbs 35 is already old for music most of the times. I didn't say exceptions couldn't exist. David Bowie composed his best album when he was 25. Maybe Rivers can compose a good album when he's 69, but I doubt it will be better than the Blue Album.
@death to the suburbs if Matt Sharp came back to the band today you'll think they would magically release another Pinkerton? Give me a break.
cant wait for ur haunt you everyday vid that song is so fucking amazing
I hated Beverly Hills. Even more so when I heard Rivers say it was NOT tongue in cheek. That said, I like Make Believe overall
that visualization of that demo having Green and Pinkerton fight over who gets to shine is just so fun to watch, absolutely class
Great ending. Also great video.
Make Believe is the album that got me into Weezer. I’ve now fallen away since the cover album but the first pressing of Make Believe doesn’t deserve all the hate.
honestly my favorite weezer album, but i love a lot of 2000s pop punk and emo music so ig i just like trash
This could just be nostalgia, because MB was the first Weezer album I ever heard, but I actually always liked it.
Same
I just want to thank you. Saying that Haunt You Every Day is a masterpiece made me listen to it and now it's probably my favorite Weezer song
why you gotta do maladroit dirty like that tho
Make Believe is the first album I bought and immediately disliked. I remember driving home that summer day and thinking, “What the fuck am I listening to?” It’s been more than 15 years and I still hate it. I hate it because it’s genuinely bad and I hate it because it was the beginning of the end of one of my favourite bands.
I love this album so much that I bought it and can't say for sure how many times I have listened Make Believe during these years.
Even Though I Still Hate “Beverly Hills” To This Day, This, And To Some Extent “Red”, They Were My Official Entry Points Into Getting Into Their Music. Yeah, I Already Knew Of “Undone” And “Island” Being Constantly Played On Radio (Hell, The First Video I Saw Of The Was For “Keep Fishin’”, Because I Love The Muppets), But I Never Really Bothered To Check Them Out Until Much Later.
I Still Have Very Soft Spots For Both Of Those Albums. I Love “Peace” And “This Is Such A Pity”, And Fuck, “We Are All On Drugs” Is Such A Fun Song To Play On Bass! I Make No Apologies In Like This Particular Era Of The Band.
Great Video 🤍
really, really well done
Maladroit was a good and underrated album. And obviously the first two were great. I was kind of done with Weezer when they put out the Beverly Hills single. They lost credibility with me as artists.
That song was clearly a gimmick and was put out to make money to have Beverly Hills type money ironically.
I still cringe every time I hear it. They just got a little too wonky and silly as their career progressed. Make Believe had some good tracks on it though it wasnt all bad. Haunt You Everyday is one of their best songs IMO.
When you watch the documentary Get Back, three months to whip an album into shape with songs that are basically already written being a problem seems like a joke.
“My best friend had a rocky relation with this album.” Ha, Good one.
Make Believe is probably my 3rd favorite Weezer album tbh. Love this album.
Didnt know a lot ofthis!
Thanks for doing this!
White is my favorite album but I like Make believe as well. Good vid!
u deserve way more than a thousand views bro