Brady Lens Dials in on the 'Quick Throw' Tua Talk!
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- The Miami Dolphins and Tua threw faster than anyone in 2023. While some say this is a sign of Tua not being good enough, Curtis uses Tom Brady and his time with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to show the real drivers and rationale behind a speed throw offense.
🕘Timestamps:
0:00 - Video Start
0:06 - Quick Throws Mean What?
3:52 - Show Updates
4:24 - Brady Kicked Off Speed Throw Trend
8:21 - Speed Throwing Philosophy
12:20 - Speed Throw Fork In the Road
15:17 - Tua Speed Throw History
19:03 - Why Brady Accelerated Speed of Throw
21:59 - Our Skills Can Create Unreal Leverage & Wrap-Up
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Thanks for the great content, Curtis. Your channel is the reason I cringe when I hear so called Dolphins writers continually ignore the pass block win rate of this oline when “evaluating” Tua. It’s content like this that allows me to keep a level head about our QB. The polarization of Tua attracts clicks and caters to the low information football fan. Unfortunately trends like these are not unique to football.
Thanks, Daniel... I try... it's not the most popular style... but, I sleep better with my type A conscientious brain... and that's a great thing :)
The way I see it, to love the game is to want to see the nuances.
Well said...@@danielcosta6238
@@danielcosta6238 perfect!
Thanks for the shout-out, Curtis. Great job as usual. You took this in a far deeper direction than I was planning to. It is so frustrating when both local media and national pundits don't delve into how this offensive line was historically poor last year. It is propped up by scheme, playmakers, and quarterback. This is a situation where surface stats completely misrepresent reality. You're one of the few people to analyze the entire picture. I think a lot of us suspect this line was fraudulent, but you're the first to show why.
Always a pleasure, keep shining the light!
:) Someday are less monkey than others, brother :)
Tua is a great qb. Anyone who can find a receiver and get the ball to them everytime in 2 seconds is unbelievable and to be so accurate.
The front office knows all this information x200. So why don't they pay the man?
Because something doesn't fit... Maybe they are taking this weird road that's contrary to football traditions with an escape hatch if it doesn't work... it's tua's fault or Mcds... Not Grier? I don't know... I'm a nobody and it's so clear what is what... We haven't been able to build and OL for a long time... maybe it's just a weaknesses with the scouts or something... don't really know.
It will be the biggest contract in Miami Dolphins Franchise History, there is still time until camp starts, it will get done by then.
This will be the biggest contract ever for Chris Grier and the Miami Dolphins Franchise, it needs some time, they have like 3 weeks to make it work.
This is the first video that I’ve seen of yours and you gained my subscribe. I’m the analytical type and love a dive down into the numbers below the surface. This is a great take! Looking forward to the next video!
! I like that, brother! Thanks. Glad you enjoyed and subbed. Football is so hard to understand, but going over the numbers(today's PC), we were top 5 in time to throw, play action, and screens! No other team in the NFL had that... 3 teams with 2, but not all three. That says McD was 100% trying to mitigate pressure as they are the three key ways to do it.
As always great insight. 👍
:) Some days are less monkey than others, brother. Thanks!
Thank you sir. Great breakdown. Keep up the great work.
Thanks, brother... much appreciated.
This is cool! Great work!
Thank you, brother. Glad you enjoyed.
Another great video brother. Mcdaniel deserves more credit than people realize. Dan Orlovsky pointed out that it's very unlikely that 5 qbs can run this Mcdaniel offense better than Tua. Dan didn't mean that literally, he meant under the circumstances that Tua is in with the bad offensive line. Tua has no choice but to get the ball out quick and Mcdaniel has done a good job of gelling the speed of the roster and tuas quick realease into a top tier Offense for 2 straight seasons. Credit to Mcdaniel for evaluating all of these variables and plugging everything together to come up with this product and credit goes to Tua for having the skillset to help this offense. If we had a good O-Line this Mcdaniel offense would look a little different and most nfl qbs can be plugged right in.
Without the two of you , this show ain’t going down 😏. Love that part ! Go phins 🐬
:) Nice! Was thinking about cutting it... guess it's now a Curtis tag line :) Thanks!
Appreciate you acknowledging your audience or viewers. Love how you are very dedicated you are to provide context to your analysis.
Curtis, I like your tag.🤔
@@paulholland7913 Thanks, sir!!!
@@dioncooper2844 Guess I keep it going :) Thanks, brother.
Good stuff. Whatever the truth of Brady's comment, as you pointed out, in the case of Tua it's a moot point. Tua has to throw quickly because the OL doesn't give him much time at all. The fact that Tua can consistently get the ball out as quickly as he does is astounding. Still, if Brady is right, then it's one more condemnation of Grier's team building because Grier has constructed the team to be this way.
He didn't make a comment, but his offensive scheme designed by him and the OC did in how they responded to a faltering OL and increasing pressure. Undeniable fundamental football philosophy is you offset pressure with 3 things: screens, quicker throws, and extra bodies to protect... Notice how our screen game went crazy high from mid-season on. HUGE red flag.
@@AcePerHeadwhy Grier needs to be fired
@@bryangonzalez4604 if it doesn't play out this season... I say that as someone who isn't a fan and realises he'll be here easily till 2026 no matter what... and likely beyond that... so, all I can do is eval and eval and eval... :(
@@AcePerHead if things don’t go well then Mike, Grier need to be fired and Tua might need to be traded and draft a new QB if things go south and the 2 sides don’t agree on an extension for Tua.
@@bryangonzalez4604 Ross will part with everyone before Grier i think... I think as long as Ross is here Grier is no matter what... plenty of other heads to fall first.
Great show brother. Hope to get on with you soon.
It'll be interesting to see if keeping Tua healthy last year or if he was a little more trigger happy than he was before out of caution contributed to the quicker time to throw. We'll probably never know for sure but looking forward to seeing if we can improve on efficiency and being more clean in our operation. That's what I'm looking for this year. Urgency, efficiency and expanding how he plays the position.
Covering your point next Pc adding more member stuff today and going forward... YEAH!!! about 9 workouts now in 11 days... haven't felt this good in years!!! I'm aiming for my best season yet!!! for PCs and myself :) Thanks a ton, brother!!!!
Tua had to work on not trying too hard to extend the play. They didn't want him scrambling and possibly get knocked out of the game. So this year he's losing weight, and we'll probably see more second, third, and fourth reads and we'll probably see Tua scramble more.
@@Fletchman1313 I think too they have more weapons and will push the RIR like Brady did. I think the leverage they create is high and it might uplift this OL for the most part... def think he'll have more reading and progressions this season... check the PA numbers that will tell the tale of what direction that are taking. Terron MUST stay healthy.
Awesome analysis. Its a breath of fresh air to hear a smart objective input based on real evidence. Cant argue with that. I know Tua haters are going to have a hard time accepting this truth. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, sir! It's hard to get to know the why in football... not saying Tua is the best at this or worst at that, but clearly the speed throw is driven by something other than just Tua.
Curtis, thank you for your susceptibility to rabbit holes. As a guy with a similarly-wired brain, I enjoy seeing the journeys they take you on
I'm like Alice to those rabbit holes :) Sometimes they pay off... sometimes not... just can't resist :) We are just curious cats, brother... Thanks, sir!
Dude scopes as many angles as possible, which is a lot
@@roguebossa :)
I think this perfectly illustrates that no QB is gonna be able to go through progressions etc if they have to throw the ball in 2.9 seconds 😂
Hoping us going all in on the skill/finesse scheme will finally pay off this year 😬🤞🏼
Just imagine if the OL was constructed better (mainly IOL). Tua having time getting to his 3rd & 4th reads w guys in their routes would be dangerous. A half second more could do that.
100% Going to do another one with Marino... it will be a shocker. Not as deep, but uber clear.
If we better Gm he would do it
@@bryangonzalez4604 It ALL starts at the top... BUT this season the team is created perfectly to drive his concept... if not this year then the concepts is clearly the king without clothes.
@@AcePerHead yep
@@AcePerHead I’m looking forward to seeing it, young man. Marino was fun to watch & his OL protected him at all costs. They took pride at keeping Danny clean.
Way to break it down with stats. I would like to see someone compare the Offensive line statistics on all the playoff teams to show how important a good offensive line is.
I think I did that at one point. I def. showed run production... Maybe I'll do it / redo it... good thought.
@@AcePerHead I just found your page in my feed but I like it and am now subscribed.
Nice breakdown. Explains a lot
Thanks brother... stumbled on it due a commentors stats he gave me.... team effort.
Awesome content brother!
Very kind mojo, brother. thanks.
Great video … again!!
Very kind... thanks for the good mojo early in the morning, brother.
Simply amazing presentation. With relevant data & statistics to support the concept / philosophy / schemes, you have exposed the the relation of the offense v defense; now I have a better appreciation of the game. TY Curtis...well done.📈📝🏁🏁🏁🏁💰💰💰💰💰soifua
THANKS!!! You made me feel almost legit :) Much appreciated, sir!
Hey Curtis! At the end of his last video, Douglie (DoWrong) asked the viewers to mention people that he should collab with, and I commented and told him about you... I think it'd make for a great show so see you two bounce ideas off one another. Might be worth you reaching out to him too if you enjoy his content... just a thought
He reached out to my Year 1 and wanted me on.... which was very kind to do so... but never got back to me. I like him a ton... was mad at him for pilling on Flores on the firing and discounting Ross and Grier's issue... but other than that, I think he's aces. I hate to reach out because maybe he changed his mind. Of course, I'd love to do it, but not sure if I'm something he wants on the menu... I'm sorta' shy / proud... so that might be hindering me too... working on it :) Thanks for the mention... maybe he'll contact me again... if not, I get it... good guy... like you :)
@@AcePerHead I get it... no one's takes are 100% I kinda cringe at Poupart when he discounts Tua a bit more than I think he deserves, but I've followed his takes since the 90s when I lived in Miami and had season tickets. From what I can tell Doouglie kinda takes on more than he can handle at times, and I think that's what happened with you. But I won't speak for the man. I hope you two make it happen because I appreciate you both. If not, I'll still follow you both so no biggie
@@jhiieri7812 I get mad at my takes from time to time!!! No one has all the answers.... I was just invested emotionally. Not saying Flores was great, but man Ross and Grier WEREN'T teflon! I like DDW... I disagree with everyone from time to time. I like him a ton... very few I dont like, and that's because they seem dubious. agreement isn't a need for me to like someone or listen to them... it's about intent. I think his intent is good.... and that's all you can ask. I've screwed the pooch on more than few takes, but I thought I was right...wasn't .... accuracy is nice, but character is key. It would be great, we'll see... I'm kinda' small and he's huge so that could be a factor... never know. Thanks, brother.
Like to see Curtis with Douglie, with Locked On, with Reason, with Omar and Alf etc.
How much do you put into year over year development of players when you compare 2023 to 2020 rosters? For example you said we definitely wont have as good an oline. But that just based on player names. How much should be factored in for it being the first time these players are in the same system for a 3rd year?
I think that's a big thing... I'll do a PC on it... many points to connect. Next Pc is on skill leverage on O and that plays a big part. I'll write it down, brother... thanks for the idea.
Great analysis Curtis!!! 🐬🏈
Thanks, brother.
@@AcePerHead You are so welcome 🤗 I usually agree with your analysis 🧐, but even when I don’t I always feel like I learned something 😎
I'm going to say something else, some fans aren't stupid, they know whats up, GRIER HAS NO ACCOUNTABILITY. No matter what, its not his fault. This is where Ross doesn't know how to own/ manage his team. When you rebuild a team, you FIRE THE GM!
He is a made man... but he has the exact talent for his off the beaten path build... I'll give him this season to see if he is as smart as he thinks he is... either way, someone else will take the fall and Grier will likely be here until Ross leaves... no matter what happens.
Thanks bud very in depth show 🏈😀👍
Thank you brother... comment here had me dig up more evidence... will be in the next with a surprise look and Marino.
Curtis, let me ask you this.... Do you feel the Dolphins and current 49'ers (Offensive Schemes) are anywhere similar to the West Coast Offense? I'll explain my thought behind the question if you happen to respond.
No... a poor mans version and missing key ingredients in talent and philosophy.
@@AcePerHead Thanks for responding my friend. The reason I ask is Mike Shanahan was a Walsh disciple I believe but not sure, and Kyle and McDaniel seem to have taken "a poor man's version" as you correctly said of the philosophy and added their own wrinkles. I was watching a TD Phins podcast where he and his guest, a 49'ers content provider, were discussing the fact that Kyle and Mike are of the belief that they can get away with a "mediocre" Offensive Line if other explosive talent is surrounding them. With all the talk of Grier and what the Dolphins have or haven't done the immortal 3 time champion and genius Bill Walsh once said something that caught my eye. When asked by a reporter what WR are you going to take or thinking about in the draft his response was, "I'm not going to even worry about Wide Receiver until the Offensive Line is fixed!!" Like you have said and I firmly agree with until they get the trenches figured out I don't believe the Dolphins will get to where they wanna go.
@@mikesterner2145 AWESOME... quoting you in the following PC wished I saw this before I recorded the next one! Thing is 49ers have William HOFer who is always healthy--you can build lesser around that to a degree... they learned in the SB though that it ain't easy... great post... loved it, brother.
My issue is... I don't discredit that he has a lot of air yards, but I don't think it's coincidence either that Waddle and Hill both had experience as successful punt returners and McDaniel has schemed the offense so that many of the deep balls are just Tua taking 3 steps or hitting a Playaction and then throwing an "arm punt" while they track and adjust to it in flight for 4 seconds then make the catch.
Translation: even on balls that travel far in the air, a lot of the result is still his receivers doing the heavy lifting and with less talented receivers he would likely struggle in that regard as well. Thus the reason they traded for Tyreek in the first place, are already talking to him about more money and extended Waddle b4 Tua... idk just an opinion
Okay, let's say that's true... if it was the primary driver then you wouldn't need all the PA (PA is for pass protection) and you wouldn't get so much non PA pressure and wouldn't have a crazy 2.08 Blitz TT... all of these (among others), Kevin, say protection is an issue... a large issue when you factor in the rise in screens and edge throws... other protection red flags. You DON'T see all these red flags from any good OL even if the QB is poor. You might get some based on the QB play... but not all.
@AcePerHead or one could argue that with protection and time opposing secondaries have more time to work the receivers, more recovery time etc and then Tua loses his windows to throw and the play is broken. It's never all this or all that, there's obviously a lot of truth in what you're saying. But with now 2 WRs in the top 10 pay range and Tyreek wanting to make more... and then paying Tua top of the line money.... that O line will never be what people want it to be as well as other areas of the roster. Additionally they are an outside zone run team before anything else, that's their identity. That requires a level of agility and athleticism in linemen that just traditionally doesn't bode well for trying to hold long pass blocks.
Summary: every offensive SCHEME has strengths and weaknesses and ours is being operated pretty much as desired. Tua is an above average but not elite QB that wants elite money. Trading Tua and Hill at the deadline should happen if they can't figure out deals for both. They are a package.
@@KevinDorsi Might be elite with a good offensive line. Maybe.
@roguebossa my thing is I wouldn't use the word "good" offensive line, maybe "different type" of offensive line. Our line (imo) is not bad at what they do by any means but they are built specifically for the outside zone run scheme and RPO / playaction that plays off of that scheme. They just aren't meant to hold pass blocks long or beat a bull rush. They are all finesse and the more I watch, the less I feel it's to protect Tua or mask a deficiency but rather its just McDaniel running the offense McDaniel wants to run. And with Tua that offense does flourish I just feel like Tua isn't the clutch hero put the game on his back qb that deserves top paid salary. I also hesitate to call him a "system QB" but basically we just need to stop looking at the schemes weaknesses and begging for them to change. Every scheme has weekness but this one is built and executed very well.
What percentage of the pressure came from defenses feeling emboldened to blitz? If you blitzed Brady, he'd more often than not torch you, so you'd be more circumspect about when and how often you'd do it.
Obviously, there's a lot more to it than 'Tua's this' or ''the OL's that'. Are there any comparable stats between the two for when defenses pass rush with four and/or use disguised zones?
Brady 2020 30% blitzed, 2021 30% blitzed, and 2022 24 % blitzed. Tua 2021 31 % blitzed, 2022 25% blitzed, and 2023 22.7%... all this favors the protection of Tampa and allows some more opportunities for Brady overall beyond 2021 for Tua. Notice how when he went to 2.13 clean time the blitz dropped... just like Tua... it's the way to offset the quick throw when the protection isn't hot because you can stop the run and get pressure and clog the lanes. Great question... I should have added that. Thanks.
going to add this bit and credit you in the next PC... this is why I love comments brother!
@@AcePerHead I wouldn't have thought defenses would blitz Brady that much, given the empirical results over the years.
Maybe that says as much about defensive tendencies as anything else?
@@cheekynffc8096 good angle... added to tomorrow's PC thanks... keep them coming, brother.
If Dolphins are considering Awfulberg at right guard, then Grier should be run out of town. No idea why Rob Jones is not given a fair chance to start at right guard.
:)
Pay Tua and give the phins fans something to cheer for,phins is a great team,we just need to pay Tua.
I think if they were going to it should have been earlier and the price would have been cheaper... same thing happened with Hunt and Wilk... just don't understand why you build all around him and then don't pay him? Maybe it happens soon... crazy if we going into the season on the 5th... I thought we might... but didn't think it would actually happen!!!
Curtis, Awesome video. I get frustrated by the "despicable "dolphin content creators". Folks just try to get attention. No emphasis on stats. Just putting out content to garner clicks. Tua is not playing on that 5th year option. Grier consistently plays hardball with guys he drafted. Only exception was Waddle. Failing to give Tua a "market contract" will doom Dolphins for years to come. What is the alternative to Tua? If I'm Tua, I am "holding in". Let Grier figure it out.
Sadly, the whole media is clicks driven and not journalistic driven... I couldn't do this the way I do it without the sponsor... and I'm teetering on losing them and I'd have to give this up if they do... house load of kids and pets... I think I make about 700-900$ a year on the clicks...sponsors get it... no way I could invest full plus in this for that.... so I get it to an extent. BUT, those who have made it and don't those I don't... Alf and Kyle are good ones for making it and still shooting for truth... DDW is a good guy, but he's still learning the game and I think his heart is good... there are others... but there are a few in the converse... sad but true brother.
@AcePerHead I like DDW. He is fair and does his homework. TD is a clown. He says the most outrageous things for attention.
If Dolphins don't sign Tua, what is Plan B? I watched Tannehill. He isn't the answer to any question. Grier paid Chubbs, Ramsey. Guys he didn't draft. He let's Hunt & Wilkins walk away for 3rd round supplemental picks. That isn't smart. Nobody does this.
great show. dam love the number breakdown, too many in fanbase do not know rhyme and reason for anything they know end result and how to complain at the lowest fruit. many love football but dont know football. thank for trying to explain it
Thanks! For me, the game is so deep and had to decipher the WHY is always the key for me.... it's that way with coaches and evaluators.... why is the fountain on all film and statistics. It's not always a concrete area... but if you dig and support I think it can get pretty solid. Thanks, brother!
Yes sir, as former pro footballer great comment.
@@TuatagaloaTeo Yeah? Or are you joshing?
@@TuatagaloaTeo THX. i listen to alot ppl complaining about a player play to realize I'm not debating I'm explaining more than debating. so I asking question to see level of football intellect to gauge whether I wanna participate, the issue is ppl rather sit on talking point and narratives that fuel their feelings than really learn the game
@@jrblak212 that it... this is the MOST complex game man has ever created by a long shot... only one game is more complex: war. Sooo much nuance from psychological, to environmental, to physical, to strategic... on and on... you can boil down grand themes to small explanations, but never the whys...those take tons of layers to reach... they don't work well on twitter though... so... here we are. I remember the old inside the NFL days... I miss them when the bulk of fans tried harder than now to understand the game... ohh well... we are a small click it seems... I'm hoping for a resurgence of the past fandom :)
The quick game is effective when precise and Tua has become a top facilitator at it if not the premier guy. But this attack can be SHUT DOWN; not slowed down, shut down. So much so that it forces McDaniel to start shrinking back into a shell. Once McGase goes there Tua reaches a point where he doesn't even want to throw anymore. Against Baltimore, McDaniel refused to just run the ball and the clock to just get the a$$ whooping over with. So incomplete after incomplete lead to Tua checking out and lazily leading his receivers from one dangerous hit into another. Regardless of the highs against chumps, you can't survive these catastrophic lows against the better defenses.
It all start with the OL... OL creates the size of the menu for an offense and sets the table for what any offense can do. I think like Shanahan he can get too cute, but I also think he knows his OL can't block between the tackles and that creates an issue as you can shell up to cover the pass and edge runs... so, I mostly agree with you, brother.... just for me, the prime mover (not only mover of course) is the play of the blockers.
Curtis the proof is in the results. When it's time to take control Tua was unable to step up and lead the team to a win . It wasn't just once last year. Part of the problem is McDaniel not having a counter punch. When your attached at the hip like Tua and McDaniel you need to be able to come up with an answer. Neither one did receipt for failure!
All true.... but name one OC / QB combo who succeeded with an inept OL? Marino struggled after Stephenson went down and resurged when the instant they drafted Webb and Simms. No coincidence. So, for me, OL sets the challenge rating.. avg. OL and you'd get fair evals for both... right now is well below avg. and has been since he's been here and much longer than that... Notice Tanny rose too with the upgrade of the OL... among other things of course.
O-lines are the keystone to Championships
When Brady first came to the Bucs, he immediately wanted (and got) to draft a pass protection. It's all a matter of security and comfortability. Compare that to Tua who had none of that throughout his 4 years. Last year when they were all healthy, you can see Tua at his best.
Yet now, they (Dolphins) want injury guarantees built-in the contract when they themselves passed on it this year when they could have fixed it. If they have done so, then this contract negotiations demanded it from Tua, then it would be a different story. Grier continues to laugh off the O-Linemen needs and selects flashy pass rushers and CBs, but continues to fail.
If you listen to all the reviews from other teams that selected O-Linemen in the first round, even the ones that we passed on like Barton, JPJ, Morgan, Haynes, Beebe, etc, , they all are gaining amazing reviews. JPJ already got the respect from CW and Max Crosby. Yet, we selected Patrick Paul, and he continues to learn the basic fundamentals off to the side and against UDFAs. How, stark can you be?
Question for you, if tua gets traded who do u have to replace him? And at what number money wise. Since so called tua is below average and it’s only cause his weapon? Also there are teams that could just use a good QB that can deliver the ball. I feel Tua should get traded only cause no matter what this franchise and culture won’t chance. Look at kc andy and Steve great system ans great oline if the phins gets rid of Tua then McDaniels is gone as well 🤦🏽♂️
And you give Austin Jackson a big contract. Listen, Chris Grier has NO FORESIGHT, NONE!!!! We shouldn't have lost our star DT, he should have been given a contract 2 years ago.
Way too much for Jackson... But, it made his resume look better and made for some good memes... that counts for something :)
Agree & disagree. This isn't Mike's system. He created this system based on Tua's strengths since he is a limited qb
Thanks for the thoughts... but it could also be the lack of OL ability... or both. Think of it this way: there are 3 ways to mitigate pressure: A) screens ( we escalated them highly as the season went on to a very high %), PAs & extra blockers ( we were in the bottom 10 in each not sure the exact though), and speed of throw ( we raised our clock by .22 -- huge increase). Yet we still had high pressure (host of stats to prove that... actually worst true pass set grade by a OL in 14 years by a country mile). If someone is bad at something do you increase the speed with which they do it or slow it down? If you have a guy who is a slow processor do you lessen the ol and then lessen the run game and protection time or do you improve it? Before Tua we've had the same problem....poor OL. Tanny went to the Titans with a better Ol and system for his skillset and went to COnf game... here he didn't win jack. So, this is my train of though... next PC will show you Dan Marino and what the OL meant to him and also the blitz rates for Tua and Brady as a side bit of data... Thanks again for the thoughts... but, there's more to it when you check the shanny and Grier philosophies... I'll point them out so you can consider them...
Thank you for this fabulous video. And yes, Tua sucks
:) I mean, sucks! I 'm not rapid supporter and didn't want to draft him... but, sucks is Fielder, Culpepper when he was here, Culter here (when he just wanted the money) I get his injury thing... that was my concern. Get maybe he wilts under the pressure talk and maybe the arm isn't big enough and such... Sucks though I wouldn't say that... maybe not worth the big contract, but we said the same about Tanny and then he got the OL and right scheme and had decent success... Glad you enjoy... I'd say Grier building of the OL is worse than Tua's play... but just my eval, brother. Guess we'll see... next two season are going to be critical for many big pieces in Miami.
Dont need to watch this video to know that Tua and Brady should not even be in the same sentence.
I said this isn't about comparing the players. I explicitly said it's about comparing the OCs schemes in response to the same issue as the drivers to the fast throw... I made sure to EXPLICITLY say that in like the 1st min brother... and then for the rest of the PC. Football basics: you mitigate pressure on offense with screens, PA (adding more blockers), and speeding up the throws... and Brady was the second fastest thrower in history and his offense increased it's speed of throw and shortened up the routes to make up for decreasing pass protection ... just like Miami did... or any offense... in fact, Burrow did the same things this season.
@@AcePerHead he so concentrated on the hate for tua that he didnt listen to nothing you just explain
@AcePerHead I'm glad you too the time to respond to pure ignorance instead of them actually watching the video
@@showcaze2000 It's okay to not like a guy, but if you allow it to interfere with the evaluation of the player and the football concept then you have a blindspot on the player and concept and it will poison your evals going forward... fo some football is a pure passion thing.. that's okay. It's a game... I just think there more joy in loving the game itself... been dying for a Dolphins super bowl win for 40 plus years... remember crying as a kid at the SF loss... and hiding as an adult with the almost perfect season for the pats in the last min of the game for fear of the record being broken... I get passion, but I said a decade ago... I just want to enjoy the game... I can control that... I can't control the outcome... and I've enjoyed my life and the game much more ever since. On game day my head pounds and then it's back to the game itself... but for some they prefer another direction... all good. He wasn't personal to me...
@@kurltonfalconer9353 Copy and pasting the response above as it fits, brother "It's okay to not like a guy, but if you allow it to interfere with the evaluation of the player and the football concept then you have a blindspot on the player and concept and it will poison your evals going forward... fo some football is a pure passion thing.. that's okay. It's a game... I just think there more joy in loving the game itself... been dying for a Dolphins super bowl win for 40 plus years... remember crying as a kid at the SF loss... and hiding as an adult with the almost perfect season for the pats in the last min of the game for fear of the record being broken... I get passion, but I said a decade ago... I just want to enjoy the game... I can control that... I can't control the outcome... and I've enjoyed my life and the game much more ever since. On game day my head pounds and then it's back to the game itself... but for some they prefer another direction... all good. He wasn't personal to me...
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Dolphins 🐬 know that tua is not that good 😂 , one reason they will not give him the money.
I'd say the OL is far worse... plenty to say he is. Any QB would be diminished by this OL... so even if we swap out QBs, whoever would struggle behind this swisscheese, in my opinion, brother.
Make up your mind. Just last year he was holding the ball too long and got his brain scrambled, then he improved and got it out quickly to avoid sacks and knockdowns and guys are all of sudden saying he is bad...stop it. I think cats just want content and will say anything. It doesn't have to make sense...lol
Did I say that... me? Well, I guess you didn't listen to anything I said... Here's BASIC football 101: not debatable. To offset pressure you A) call screens (ours rose higher and higher by season's end, B) Call Play action and add more blockers (we had a higher level of PA and had a high number of blockers per pass), C) Throw faster (we were faster than the whole league and .22 faster than the year before) Well... I guess you got me by not quoting me and just saying what you think, brother... sorry... but, you are wrong.
Come on
Tua is a good QB, can win games, just not big games, or when it matters. Five years in at the same level.
Tua has grown and improved every year as my Miami Dolphins QB. Dedication, determination.
All true.... but name one OC / QB combo who succeeded with an inept OL? Marino struggled after Stephenson went down and resurged when the instant they drafted Webb and Simms. No coincidence. So, for me, OL sets the challenge rating.. avg. OL and you'd get fair evals for both... right now is well below avg. and has been since he's been here and much longer than that... Notice Tanny rose too with the upgrade of the OL... among other things of course. Go check the time lines... marino had a good season in 87 then nose dived 88 and 89 with nearly more picks than TDs and 6-10 and 8--8 record. Then rose hard in 90. Not saying the OL is everything, but it's abig piece of the pie as far as restricting the ceiling of production.
Same level? I think that's kind of an ignorant comment. He's gotten/improved every year.
@@iafigueroa91 He has... has the OL? I think 2022 it almost reached avg. here and there.
@@CosaNostra72 tell it
And you can't run a football team when you have a guy you have to protect. He can't improvise.
They protected Jimmy G and were able... I don't think that's a main drivers... maybe a smaller one... main driver is lack of OL talent in my eval, brother.
Without Gronk,Brady sunk. When Tua start ,he did not had the good players he have now,pay the man, I guarantee dolphins will win the Super bowl 👍👍👍🏈
Add in OL... Dante Scarneckie was one of the great OL coaches in the history of the game!!!
Tua throw the ball how he wants Brady cheated every super bowl picked in the 6 round never put his team on his back an lastly they changed the law so he could jet away Scott clean with this stuff listen to the jokes they made about him still laughing he are ah funny character real funny
Brady was blessed with one of the best OL coaches in history and excellent OL throughout... Charmaine call up Dan Marino's name and check his play from mid 1987 went HOF center Stephenson went down until the arrival of Webb and Simms in 1990... notice the huge dip when the offensive line fell apart and the rise when it built up again. Offensive lines make the NFL world go around... Tua would be muchhhhhh different with even an avg. offensive line... not saying HOF or SB winner... but much different and better. The big boy make the pretty skills look good... even Hill said it's all about Terron.
I'll start out by saying I've never disliked Tua, however. as of now I can NOT put him anywhere in the same sentence with Tom Brady, comparison or no comparison. Nice kid (Tua), pretty good skill set but as you clearly said, the reason he throws quickly is to off set the inefficiencies or inadequacies of the offensive line. IMO on the surface this is a good plan but BETTER Defensive Coordinators will find a way to jam receivers and force Tua to make other reads and get him off his game. Hopefully, those "other reads" this year will include a steady dose of Achane out of the backfield and Smith (TE). He simply cannot continually rely on Hill and Waddle. No BALANCE, NO BUENO!!! This offense is somewhat exciting but as a Dolphins fan for 50+ years I'd LOVE to see a lot more running BETWEEN THE TACKLES. I'm definitely old school and would prefer a Smash Mouth style of football but I realize they aren't built for that. It would help though if the GM and the Nutty Professor (McDaniel) didn't make stupid ass comments and laugh saying, "Ahh, you are all worried a lot more about the Offensive Line than we are"! My prediction as of today: 9-8 possibly 10-7
it's not about the comparison except the philosophy drivers. NO QB WANTS to get it out fast... NONE! OCs and QBs want the clock to drag on as long as the protection hold 95% of the time. So why the quick throws? You could say because of his skills, maybe he can't read if you want, BUT the PA and screen levels (along with other things) clearly say it's more than that. Brady never threw that fast in NE or Tampa early, but the OL defciets drove the shorting of routes and speed of throw... this is a basic football philosophy to offset pressure. Our volume of edge plays is another red flag. I think when you consider the leverage we can create with the skills (next PC) we should see more reading oppertunies this season with more WR in route... I'll cover this next Pc... but this isn't to say Tua this or that... but if we had Phillies OL you'd see a totally different O... there are so many screaming red flags that say why we do what we do in a large part... in my eval, brother.
Dude, to run between the tackles requires tackles who can push and pull, we don't have that
@@AcePerHead Great stuff. You know who else wants a longer clock? WRs! We've had lots of WRs "underperform" for Miami the last couple of years when they couldn't create separation as quickly as Waddle and Hill. Someone like Claypool (for instance) was always going to struggle with such a short clock. Will be interesting to see what he does next season playing for a team with dramatically better pass pro and a longer clock on average down after down.
@@krismoody7511 1000% the battle of O and D in the pass game is time.... the seesaw better time of blocking and time of covering.... blocking long weakens coverage and pressuring quick bolsters pass defneders....so I agree totally brother.... time is the foundation of every play in football.... even in the run game.
OL makes the NFL world go around... on a consistent basis. You can create plays sporadically without it, but consistency comes from trenches.