Love NY 30’s, there was one at Macassa Bay Yacht Club in Hamilton Ontario Canada years ago in really rough shape, but the form was still there. You could see daylight between the planks. Well, Holy Moley - Alera is the NY 30 that was at Macassa. Great to see she still lives. That was a major restoration to be sure. The NY 30 was the minimum size to be a member of the NYYC, 30’ waterline was required. 18 were built by the legendary Wizard of Bristol, Nathanael Greene Herreshoff, this fine example in 1905. Pity about the music, but what a great video. Love those gaffers, though that Jib club would need some paying attention to ;) I could smell the varnish . . . . mmmmmmmm. Thank you so much.
I was fortunate enough to salvage the bambino. The first prototype of a ny 30 s.. she lost her keel and most of her bottom in beach haven inlet . Totally gutted and adrift I had a salvage business and successfully towed her to shore after the coast guard saved the operators. After collecting all the parts , there was enough to rebuild her , saved her 67 ft hollow mast , sails and bulkeds. Mr off the new owner ,took on the massive job of a total rebuild and now she is on display at herrshofs museum and won a race in 1987 what a treasure she is in Bristol shape today. Capt. Nat ewer
The is spectacular. And the video is so well produced and narrated that it just enhances the experience. I used to crew aboard the "proto-30" "Bambino", and the thing that amazed me most is that one could go from sailing a gaff-rigged 12 1/2 to a NY 30 and understand everything perfectly.
I remember the Alera in the 1950's and 60's when it was moored at the Youngstown Yacht Club - on the lower Niagara River, a mile or so upstream from where it empties into Lake Ontario. That is a long time ago and I was a youngster but I do remember its very sleek lines just sitting in the river at its mooring. My memory is that the owner spent hours on it doing maintenance work and polishing the bright bits. He was older and the boat did not go out very often. I don't recall if it was gaff-rigged at the time but I think not. Judging by one of the photos in this video taken during the restoration, Alera must have gone next to St. Catherines, Ontario, not a very long trip - sail out to the lake and hang a left., go until you see the Welland Canal (the waterway you would use to navigate between Lake Erie and Lake Ontario if you don't want to sail over Niagara Falls). I had not thought of the Alera in years so I was quite surprised and pleased to this very well made video and the beautiful work done to bring her back to life. Sail on!
As a Young man I owned a Herreshoff boat that was supposedly built in 1903. She had the same identical rig except she had no bow sprite as your Herreshoff 30 or New York 30 if that is correct. Mine was built as a day sailor and I don't think she had any cabin though one had been added before I got her and was well designed and looked quit suitable.. I was told she was one of 12 or 15 boats and as I remember she was boat #3. WE called her A Herreshoff 23. Originally she was 34 ft long on deck but had a foot sawed off her stern as her plank ends were weak so she was then 33ft on deck. She was fast with no faults that I can remember. The hull from the water line up looked much like the 30 but was different underwater. She had a somewhat round bottom with maybe a little flatness on the center line. She had an attached keel and ballast that drew 61/2 feet with a long attached rudder with a rounded trailing edge.. When I got her, her stem had been replaced. I replaced all the frames from amidships to aft of the cockpit. I sold her in the late sixties to a guy who claimed to be a boat right as part of a divorce settlement. He took the gaff off and rigged her as as a bastardized Bermuda rig. In the late 1970's she lost her keel and I saw her bones rotting in the back lot of a marina about 1995. Brought tears to my eyes. I have a picture some place in a drawer if anyone is interested. She had been Named Tern by the owner Previous to myself. I thinking it appropriate to name her after the agile Tern so kept the name.I was told she was built for the Wednesday night races at the New York Yacht club. The previous owner said she was raced every Wednesday evening by New York Tycoons of the day. I remember well on a broad reach her quarter wave coming up level withe her transom and sailing for hours with no following sea ever landing on deck. This was a source of fascination for me. I am now sailing an Albin Vega 27 which I consider appropriate for an 80 year old man. She is a nice little boat and sails well but is no replacement for the likes of a turn of the century Nat Herreshoff sloop.
I Douglas, my name is Frédéric from France.I am owner of Mimosa III, Nathaniel Herreshoff N° 610, 45 foots and 30 or 33 in water. Mimosa III is a véritable one off of NY 30, you can see more pics on my Facebook"mimosa herreshoff or on google recherche Mimosa III herreshoff. I have a histhoric story sorry for my bad english
I raced against, or should I say behind, a NY 30 once a long time ago in a Concordia 41 and all I remember of that boat (Bonzai) was a skinny black needle of a hull almost invisible, smothered in spray about a mile ahead beneath a giant cloud of sail.
I work at boothbay harbor shipyard where NY30 “Ibis” I think? Is sitting in the hard as a candidate for a complete restoration if anyone wants one she is available I believe.
Thanks for posting. It is real work of art and love. Modern day boats you just can not even compare. These boats have soul and everlasting beauty.....I wonder would it be possible to obtain the full set of planes to build a replica ??? .... Thanks and good sailing....
I have sailed the Herreshoff S many times. Today I sold my Kalik 33 with a large Genny. I have watched this video and recently on the NY40. I wonder now if when racing, there is far too much rail in the water? I'm thinking if it's better to pinch these boats to weather, or it would be better to crack off the main sheet and bleed off some power and pick up some speed???? I'm interested in anyone's insight. DD
The horrible music really detracts from this video. The voiceover by a person with an unfortunate speech impediment is also distracting. Nice visuals, though.
It appears that you do not use a slipstik when securing your halyard to the belaying pin. Knob & stik - Side 56 - Resultat for Google Books books.google.dk/books?isbn=8714285991 Nils Trautner - 1977 59: Krydstørn med slipstik Fastgøring til klamper med to tappe, kofilnagler o. l. sker oftest ved, at der tages krydstørn om tappene. Der sikres ved slipstik eller ...
Wonderful, may this boat sail for many years. Thank you.
Love NY 30’s, there was one at Macassa Bay Yacht Club in Hamilton Ontario Canada years ago in really rough shape, but the form was still there. You could see daylight between the planks.
Well, Holy Moley - Alera is the NY 30 that was at Macassa. Great to see she still lives. That was a major restoration to be sure.
The NY 30 was the minimum size to be a member of the NYYC, 30’ waterline was required. 18 were built by the legendary Wizard of Bristol, Nathanael Greene Herreshoff, this fine example in 1905.
Pity about the music, but what a great video. Love those gaffers, though that Jib club would need some paying attention to ;)
I could smell the varnish . . . . mmmmmmmm.
Thank you so much.
I thought the music was ok (but maybe better without it)
lol, this is among the finest examples of any & ALL types of sailing vessels! Wonderful.
I was fortunate enough to salvage the bambino. The first prototype of a ny 30 s.. she lost her keel and most of her bottom in beach haven inlet . Totally gutted and adrift I had a salvage business and successfully towed her to shore after the coast guard saved the operators. After collecting all the parts , there was enough to rebuild her , saved her 67 ft hollow mast , sails and bulkeds. Mr off the new owner ,took on the massive job of a total rebuild and now she is on display at herrshofs museum and won a race in 1987 what a treasure she is in Bristol shape today. Capt. Nat ewer
A very fine example of this type of vessel.
I like the old wooden boats.
Keep them going!
Watching my hardware do what it does best; sail, is a joy. Great Video. What a fine boat.
The is spectacular. And the video is so well produced and narrated that it just enhances the experience. I used to crew aboard the "proto-30" "Bambino", and the thing that amazed me most is that one could go from sailing a gaff-rigged 12 1/2 to a NY 30 and understand everything perfectly.
Saw her sail up the Kennebec to the Maine Maritime Museum today. What a great sight. We motored over for a short chat. Good folks, great boat.
Nice restauration! I ve been racing onboard Oriole, hull #11, for a couple of seasons and its been great fun. These boats are fast...
What a fantastic video
Beautiful!
Love this boat.
This is what a Herschoff is all about and I feel so fortunate to own a Herschoff.
Angus
SV Violet Walters.
Spectacular Magic!
I remember the Alera in the 1950's and 60's when it was moored at the Youngstown Yacht Club - on the lower Niagara River, a mile or so upstream from where it empties into Lake Ontario. That is a long time ago and I was a youngster but I do remember its very sleek lines just sitting in the river at its mooring. My memory is that the owner spent hours on it doing maintenance work and polishing the bright bits. He was older and the boat did not go out very often. I don't recall if it was gaff-rigged at the time but I think not. Judging by one of the photos in this video taken during the restoration, Alera must have gone next to St. Catherines, Ontario, not a very long trip - sail out to the lake and hang a left., go until you see the Welland Canal (the waterway you would use to navigate between Lake Erie and Lake Ontario if you don't want to sail over Niagara Falls). I had not thought of the Alera in years so I was quite surprised and pleased to this very well made video and the beautiful work done to bring her back to life. Sail on!
+Jeffrey Bludeau * 1950s and '60s.
As a Young man I owned a Herreshoff boat that was supposedly built in 1903. She had the same identical rig except she had no bow sprite as your Herreshoff 30 or New York 30 if that is correct. Mine was built as a day sailor and I don't think she had any cabin though one had been added before I got her and was well designed and looked quit suitable.. I was told she was one of 12 or 15 boats and as I remember she was boat #3. WE called her A Herreshoff 23. Originally she was 34 ft long on deck but had a foot sawed off her stern as her plank ends were weak so she was then 33ft on deck. She was fast with no faults that I can remember. The hull from the water line up looked much like the 30 but was different underwater. She had a somewhat round bottom with maybe a little flatness on the center line. She had an attached keel and ballast that drew 61/2 feet with a long attached rudder with a rounded trailing edge.. When I got her, her stem had been replaced. I replaced all the frames from amidships to aft of the cockpit. I sold her in the late sixties to a guy who claimed to be a boat right as part of a divorce settlement. He took the gaff off and rigged her as as a bastardized Bermuda rig. In the late 1970's she lost her keel and I saw her bones rotting in the back lot of a marina about 1995. Brought tears to my eyes. I have a picture some place in a drawer if anyone is interested. She had been Named Tern by the owner Previous to myself. I thinking it appropriate to name her after the agile Tern so kept the name.I was told she was built for the Wednesday night races at the New York Yacht club. The previous owner said she was raced every Wednesday evening by New York Tycoons of the day. I remember well on a broad reach her quarter wave coming up level withe her transom and sailing for hours with no following sea ever landing on deck. This was a source of fascination for me. I am now sailing an Albin Vega 27 which I consider appropriate for an 80 year old man. She is a nice little boat and sails well but is no replacement for the likes of a turn of the century Nat Herreshoff sloop.
I Douglas, my name is Frédéric from France.I am owner of Mimosa III, Nathaniel Herreshoff N° 610, 45 foots and 30 or 33 in water.
Mimosa III is a véritable one off of NY 30, you can see more pics on my Facebook"mimosa herreshoff or on google recherche Mimosa III herreshoff.
I have a histhoric story
sorry for my bad english
What a beautifull boat.....
Thankful for posting. Wow.
I raced against, or should I say behind, a NY 30 once a long time ago in a Concordia 41 and all I remember of that boat (Bonzai) was a skinny black needle of a hull almost invisible, smothered in spray about a mile ahead beneath a giant cloud of sail.
How she can be so smart?. Beautiful.
i am in love!!!1
Awesome! Thanks!
I work at boothbay harbor shipyard where NY30 “Ibis” I think? Is sitting in the hard as a candidate for a complete restoration if anyone wants one she is available I believe.
a beauty,
That my name
Thanks for posting. It is real work of art and love. Modern day boats you just can not even compare. These boats have soul and everlasting beauty.....I wonder would it be possible to obtain the full set of planes to build a replica ??? .... Thanks and good sailing....
God, kill the thumpy banjo music, let me hear the actual sound of this wonderfull boat sailing.
how tall is your mast and how long is your boom , how big around is the boom , and please tell me about your gin pole thank you
Looks like an america cup racer!!
That's how I used to sail
Two halyards, one for the Peak, and one for the Throat, hey?
I have sailed the Herreshoff S many times. Today I sold my Kalik 33 with a large Genny. I have watched this video and recently on the NY40. I wonder now if when racing, there is far too much rail in the water? I'm thinking if it's better to pinch these boats to weather, or it would be better to crack off the main sheet and bleed off some power and pick up some speed???? I'm interested in anyone's insight. DD
i thought the boat would end in the drink due to the angle of hall
Your point is good, but why do you quote a book in Danish? Both the crew and producer seem to speak English :-)
You guys seem to have an security issue there, an oil lantern on the deck, BOY !
Magnificent craft, beautifully filmed video, horrible music really wrecked my buzz. Had to mute it so I missed all the bits
The horrible music really detracts from this video. The voiceover by a person with an unfortunate speech impediment is also distracting. Nice visuals, though.
It appears that you do not use a slipstik when securing your halyard to the belaying pin.
Knob & stik - Side 56 - Resultat for Google Books
books.google.dk/books?isbn=8714285991
Nils Trautner - 1977
59: Krydstørn med slipstik Fastgøring til klamper med to tappe, kofilnagler o. l. sker oftest ved, at der tages krydstørn om tappene. Der sikres ved slipstik eller ...