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Crazy fast cine lenses (that don't suck) | LAOWA Argus

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
  • LAOWA have just launched their T1 Argus cine lenses, available in full frame, Super 35 and Micro Four Thirds. These all come with a crazy fast T1 aperture, but how do they hold up when wide open and how do they compare to other affordable lenses? Let's find out!
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    CHAPTERS
    00:00 - Intro to the LAOWA Argus T1 cine lenses
    01:30 - First impressions on the Argus lenses
    02:46 - Image characteristics of the Argus lenses
    03:56 - Controlled T stop test
    04:41 - Side by side comparison 18-35 SIGMA Art
    04:54 - Side by side comparison LOAWA S35 Ranger 17-50mm
    05:27 - Side by side comparison 35mm SIRUI Night Walker
    06:03 - Side by side comparison 35mm DZOFILM Vespid
    07:06 - LAOWA Argus Chromatic abberation
    07:53 - LAOWA Argus Focus Breathing
    08:17 - LAOWA Argus Lens flaring behaviour
    08:55 - LAOWA Argus Lens distortion
    09:11 - Graded footage and discussion on the LAOWA Argus T1 lenses

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  • @BlaineWestropp1
    @BlaineWestropp1 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Absolutely great video. Thank you for making this and comparing with a bunch of other lenses. So useful!

    • @kylewesson83
      @kylewesson83 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Blaine, your last video kicked my ass into gear I want you to know that 🤣

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for stopping by dude, I think I'm due a big lens shoot out video soon!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsser you know I love lens tests!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kylewesson83 I’m glad :)

    • @nestorarranz3179
      @nestorarranz3179 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My guy you show up everywhere It feels like you're trying to do some Avengers type of thing

  • @kabepinheiro
    @kabepinheiro 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for all support and help!!!

  • @nickalot
    @nickalot หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Laowa reaaally makes beautiful lenses for the size and price mannn

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I absolutely can't keep up with how many releases they've had this year and they've all been great! So much choice now for us as the consumer

  • @keith-knittel
    @keith-knittel หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So many new lenses to check out! Thanks for the comparisons man!

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah man, I just can't keep up!

  • @bertcano
    @bertcano หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video as always! I am still kind of new to all this, and this was the first time I was really able to see a difference in sharpness between lenses. Never realized sharpness could vary as much as it did in this video. Thanks!

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No problem! When you really pixel peep you will see all sorts of differences... BUT the thing to remember is would you actually notice this stuff when watching well shot footage on an average sized screen, that's in a good edit? Probably not.

    • @bertcano
      @bertcano หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsser yup that makes a lot of sense for sure 😁😎

  • @nebukadnezzar3578
    @nebukadnezzar3578 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stunning vid, as always ;) But no L mount is a pity, really. Flange of EF and PL is too large to accommodate the design of the lenses, I am sure, but another mirrorless mount such as L mount should be feasible! Would amazing, if u could ask Laowa 😊

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've asked them twice but no response on the issue 😞 will keep asking 🤣

  • @cogmission1
    @cogmission1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just found this. Thank you for your hard work - this is very useful!

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're welcome! Thanks for dropping a comment!

    • @cogmission1
      @cogmission1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsser My pleasure! Thank you again!

  • @adinbradic7092
    @adinbradic7092 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    amazing video. I think I watched it at least 5 times. Mostly because it is very detailed and well done. But also because there is not a lot of reviews for this lenses, just a couple of them. I dont understand how is that possible. You were able to make this video a month ago, and now a month after a release of these lenses there are no new reviews.

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! Yeah I don't know, maybe they didn't have a huge campaign for them, they do seem to have slipped under the radar

  • @tyronetolentino
    @tyronetolentino หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While I understand the two may perhaps go hand-in-hand, when you say the Argus lenses look “cleaner” than the Vespids, do you mean cleaner from a strictly technical standpoint (chromatic aberrations, color accuracy, barrel distortion, etc.) or cleaner as in more “clinical” in terms of a more overall subjective look and feel? Fantastic video by the way!

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      More from a technical stand point, sharper, less CA, I don't think they look that clinical.

  • @Sneaky-Sneaky
    @Sneaky-Sneaky หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Ed! Very nice looking images !!

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you like them!

  • @DiodeFilms
    @DiodeFilms หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's really nice to have more s35 options. It seems almost all the lenses that have been coming out the past few years have been large format, and that pushed me reluctantly into adopting full frame myself, which is a shame, because there are some really amazing s35 cameras like the fuji xh2s.

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah S35 is not dead yet!

  • @Deathbynature89
    @Deathbynature89 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you have a full frame RF mount camera to see how much vignetting the 18mm does on a FF sensor.
    Because the 7artisan 25mm T1.05 do kinda cover FF. As in it doesn’t have a strict, sharp, vignette shadow for the image circle. It actually has a gentle vignette shadow across the full frame with a bit of edge distortion which I think kinda looks cool.
    Basically, I want to film by moonlight with an A7siii as wide as I can go.

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't unfortunately, but there is a FF line of these lenses

  • @RecWaltfilm
    @RecWaltfilm 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for this beautyfull video! Do you know.if there are some color shift between the argus lens?

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I only got to try two so I didn't do proper colour shift tests as hard to know which would have had a shift without the full set. They seemed pretty well balanced between the two I had.

    • @RecWaltfilm
      @RecWaltfilm 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EdProsser i Hope you do the test, i wanna invest in a good cinelens for my fx30, and the budget cine Lens i don't like It so much, i wanna male sure to do the right choice. Thank you for the effort

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RecWaltfilm I unfortunately had two on a temporary loan so don't have access to them any more! I'm sure someone else will have done this if they have the full set.

  • @KannaGanga
    @KannaGanga หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    any interest in testing them for astrophotography? T1 seems fit for it!

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know nothing about astrophotography and I'd imagine London would be awful for it

  • @Leapfilmuk
    @Leapfilmuk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another great video Ed. Quick question. If you had £500 to buy a video interview lighting kit from scratch what pieces would you buy? (could be used?)

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd probably look at Zhiyun lights or Amaran lights they seem like good bang for your buck, you could get a 200-300w light as your key + softbox and then a small 60w as a backlight / hair light

  • @Wildridefilms
    @Wildridefilms หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unless they're planning to make AF versions of these lenses, any reason why they weren't designed for PL mount?

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it is strange to me...

  • @damiencooper
    @damiencooper หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would loved to know if the set is color matched... But great video nonetheless

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks man, love your channel. Yes one test I forgot to squeeze in!

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EdProsser Thanks! Let's collab sometime!

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      For sure! Give me a shout if you're ever in London!

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsser oh, haha.. how did I think you're in the netherlands?

  • @glossbaby2893
    @glossbaby2893 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    what do you think about these lenses in comparison to the Mitakon Speedmasters?

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think these probably have better build quality and probably slightly better product support. Image quality on both sets is pretty good, Laowa probably performs better wide open, I'd probably opt for the LAOWA. But the Mitakons are a solid option too!

    • @glossbaby2893
      @glossbaby2893 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EdProsser thank you so much! your work is phenomenal and you're reviews are a showcase of that! I was leaning towards them but the Mitakon's look amazing too

  • @CartyCantDance
    @CartyCantDance หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The lenses look great, but your footage (as always ) looks better!
    No L mount!?!? Again!!!!????

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Where the L love gone ?!?

    • @CartyCantDance
      @CartyCantDance หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsser shouldn’t it be an easy mount to add? THEY HAVE EVERY OTHER MOUNT 😂

    • @area51pictures
      @area51pictures หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CartyCantDance It's available for the 18mm only

  • @birthright94
    @birthright94 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think full frame version of these lenses will have less CA?

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really hard to know, I imagine it wouldn't be super different because it'll be the same glass and lens design

  • @arunr4103
    @arunr4103 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Argus vs Arles which one has more cinematic look ?

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I cannot answer that question, you'll have to be more specific!

  • @shueibdahir
    @shueibdahir หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Holyshit these lenses look gorgeous! They remind me of the sigma art lenses

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe not quite as sharp or clean looking, but they've done a great job as they have a nice character to them!

  • @ryancallahan2562
    @ryancallahan2562 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How would you compare these to the Mitakon Speedmaster Cine lenses? Currently have the Nightwalker set but haven't been too impressed with their performance. Currently deciding between the Argus or Speedmasters

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      These feel like they're slightly better built and have better performance wide open. The Mitakons are still lovely lenses tho

  • @r.d.fodrek
    @r.d.fodrek หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    why no L mount???

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I honestly don't know!

    • @filipmichalsaffray441
      @filipmichalsaffray441 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the smart choice is PL mount... When buying lenses specially cine ones

    • @r.d.fodrek
      @r.d.fodrek หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@filipmichalsaffray441 but there isn't a PL or EF mount so these can't be used on L mount

    • @r.d.fodrek
      @r.d.fodrek หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsser given you connection with them - are you able to ask your contact if they will be coming out? I understand why there isn't a s35 version but no FF makes no sense!

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@r.d.fodrek yeah I asked whilst making this vid but didn't get an answer in time - have chased again, will report back!

  • @chinitopinoy1726
    @chinitopinoy1726 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you tried using the Blazar Nero 1.5X adapter on these lenses wide open?

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      No I think they're too large for the nero

    • @chinitopinoy1726
      @chinitopinoy1726 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsserjust try it man. We want to see. Get a step down /step up ring.

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chinitopinoy1726 I have some but what I mean is it'll be pointless as you'll just get a tonne of vignetting and light leak.

    • @chinitopinoy1726
      @chinitopinoy1726 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsser oh wait. I see. Do you have an MFT camera? Maybe it will cover. I have a 2/3 sensor camera (smaller than M4/3 and one inch) that uses MFT so I think the Nero will cover my setup.

  • @nickalot
    @nickalot หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    argh. so beautiful. ❤

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks

  • @d_FLDE
    @d_FLDE หลายเดือนก่อน

    I should not have watched this video :)
    Your review about the ranger s35 was the reason why I am now about to pull the trigger on the ranger s35 series by laowa. Seeing how soft it seem, specially around minute 5.23 is killing me :)
    I had the s35 ranger in hand and tested it for a wee bit. Did not realise it that much. Is it really that soft soft? They are not really on the market in Germany .. but I really need something longer than my sigma 18-35.
    Thank you for this great videos you put out Ed.

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Remember that is wide open on the rangers and no lens performs it's best wide open, and at 200%. The rangers are plenty sharp esp. once you stop down. You only noticed these diffs when doing side by sides, I have used the rangers on lots of pro work and they are perfect for me.

    • @d_FLDE
      @d_FLDE หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsser
      Thank you !!
      Did you use the s35 rangers compared to the ooom and ff rangers? Color wise that would be great to see how they mix in.
      Well. I owe you a brew or slime anyhow already.

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@d_FLDE I haven't had chance unfortunately. But I really like the S35 rangers, having such small zooms is really convenient, but you do have to stop them down a little, they are quite soft and fuzzy wide open.

    • @d_FLDE
      @d_FLDE หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsserthe 18-55 will be my workhorse for sure. Thank you for reassuring. Going now to place an order. Sadly the EU prices are 500 Euros more expensive though :)
      There will be the Euro Cine Expo in a week though where I will compare what is best to mix in for a more tele version. I have this one client where I shoot food and my 18-35 was my go to lens by now. Close focus of the 50-100 sigma is sadly just absurdly far on it.
      And thank you again for the time to answer all of my annoying questions :)

  • @metreweli
    @metreweli หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Except L mount.. Meh

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've requested them to release some in L mount - it's weird because most of their other lenses are avail. in L mount... but as they don't have EF / PL versions of these lenses it locks a whole set of users out.

  • @koothka
    @koothka หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me T.1 lens is very interesting for MFT.

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it'll be a great pairing for MFT systems!

  • @dollhausenx
    @dollhausenx หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two weeks? Sounds like a lifetime compared to how you long you had the Arles!

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know totally, unfortunately I was travelling a lot during the 2 weeks I had them. Holding I'll get the Arles back in July

  • @sagarkochar
    @sagarkochar หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you make one video of these lenses with Fujifilm xh2s please 🙂

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will you buy me a xh2s?

    • @sagarkochar
      @sagarkochar หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsser 😅.......just waiting to make my first million, if it happens ya why not 😄

    • @sagarkochar
      @sagarkochar หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsser I thought you had that cam saw in one of your videos or maybe I'm mistaken.....that's why I asked

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sagarkochar I've never laid my hands on one unfortunately - I have just bout an X100V for stills but not sure it's appeared in any videos yet!

    • @sagarkochar
      @sagarkochar หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdProsser ok brother hope you get it one day !

  • @blakeronan
    @blakeronan หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did a cupplie ..

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is that?

  • @NetvoTV
    @NetvoTV หลายเดือนก่อน

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    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for the offer but not looking for a logo at the moment!

  • @JoshCameron
    @JoshCameron หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    First 🎉

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How did you get in so quick!?

    • @JoshCameron
      @JoshCameron หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’m a die hard fan mate, you’ve found me out 😂

    • @EdProsser
      @EdProsser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      your cheque is in the post