Egyptian Khopesh on 'Roids! (Devil's Edge Review)
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- ** Specifications **
Overall length: 61 cm / 24 in
Blade length: 44.5 / 17.5 in
Blade width: 4 cm / 1.6 in
Blade thickness: 4 mm / 0.157 in
Weight: 966 g / 2.13 lbs
Point of balance: 9 cm / 3.5 in
Material: 1095 high carbon steel
Assembly: Full tang, pinned wooden handle scales
Price: 115 USD
** Pros / Cons **
+ Very sharp, effective cutter
+ Solid construction, quality steel
+ Affordable, excellent value for money
- Awkward and potentially slippery handle
** Verdict **
If you're looking for a more massive fantasy version of a khopesh, or if historical accuracy is not important to you and your budget is limited, this is a good one to consider.
It comes perfectly sharp out of the box, doesn't require any work (aside from maybe modifying the handle), and has great edge retention. Quite a durable design overall, and fun to do backyard cutting with. Especially at this comparatively low price it's easy to recommend, and there are not many other sickle swords on the reproduction market.
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That bronze kopesh was absolutely beautiful. Bronze is a work of art even if it’s not 100% practical anymore.
That high carbon steel khopesh on the other hand... is like a freakin battle axe
Nay, that be a Gentleman Orc's fruit-peeling knife!
Joshua Madoc thanks for cheering me up
Joshua Madoc , a gentleorc's fruit knife you say?
Hello lady friend. You like fruit? I peel for you!
Thatz way too small a' choppa fer us proppa boyz! Bring mei summin' at dizlokait a 'ummies arm, THEN itz fittin' fer a Nob loik meself! 'Scuze mei, I az biznezz to tend to...
*WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!*
C.L. Sandridge , thou knowst not of what you speak of! The mango is the greatest delicacy of orckind!
Missed opportunity:
The blades from devils edge are always sharp as hell!
TwisteD not as sharp as katana as you can see in the paper test
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“Not gonna slay Mesopotamians or defend against the Sea people with this!” My man Skall, slipping in them historical references
Historical mysteries always make me interested. And the topic of the sea people makes my brain salivate. Lol
@Aden hui Italian vikings I suppose
@Aden hui early Phoenician peoples
Hittites can't forget them!
They are the people that became known as the phillistines
With a blade that thick, made of 1095, as long as it has been tempered back down properly after hardening, it should be practically indestructible. If it was not tempered down enough, it could potentially be brittle, but, other than that, it should last you a lifetime with proper care and maintenance.
“Obviously you’re not going to be slaying Mesopotamians or anything” Hey Skall, you don’t know me!
Dalevisor So are you Persian, Assyrian, Kurdish, Turk or US army?
I don’t have a problem with Mesopotamians, but those sea people are real dicks.
John Francis Doe Actually, ancient Egyptian time traveler. Love the eyeliner the ladies are wearing nowadays.
I find myself liking the proper Khopesh more in terms of appearance. Something about the slender form and the bright bronze colour appeals to me.
Kapuchuz, I'm not a huge fan of the khopesh design, but I *much* prefer the original to this clumsy thing. Also, bronze can be gorgeous.
Gaaaaaay
Generalmajor Trull that’s very brave if you to come out online. I applaud your bravery
@@jasondoe2596 bronze is, relative to steel, very weak
The original one is better off as a display piece than a weapon to hack at filthy invaders
Lord Habitaxe of Prydonia, the original is perfectly adequate if neither side has access to steel, and in any case my post was about the aesthetics :)
Bayek of Siwa would approve!
Lwosveld fun fact: By the time Bayek was born the khopesh had been retired 1000 years
@@ojutay8375 And yet there's so many khopeshes you can get in game...
Rhysand -High Lord of the Night Court hahaha
@@NghtDtryr *yet there's so many khopeshes in the game..*
Got dammit Ubisoft!
No. He is the hidden one.
My man Skall going in with them ＤＥＥＰ ＣＵＴＳ
All you need is hammer. Then you have stronk soviet duel wield! Dispense communism upon your enemies.
Louis Attenborough hammer and kopesh/sickle is a decent idea for duel wielding because hammer for armor kopesh for unarmored
Please step into the queue for the free helicopter ride sir
Monday's insanity you never know. Maybe this is what functional duel wielding is.
I am now copyrighting this awesome idea for my character and franchise. I would advise nobody else take this idea d I will of course compensate mr.Louis Attenborough for the rights to said idea.
Alexane Rose you will have to gogulag my friend. Very sorry.
Not a finesse weapon? Damn I can't use my dex mod
More like an axe than sword.. Meant to be weilded duel though. The upper hook to pull away a sheild and cleave them with another weapon..
It looks like it combines the slashing style of a sword with the mass that an axe packs. Like a hybrid.
Love the Khopesh
That is exactly what the khopesh was meant to do.
As someone who uses one as an adventuring blade, (think Machete/Hatchet/Fighting knife usage), these things are more axe than sword. They are more knife than sword as well, given the control you have over the blade, and the speed at which you can move them.
In fact, a "Sword" is really the one thing that it isn't, oddly enough. It's a hatchet that got tired of seeing sickles get all the brush clearing action. It's a knife that decided it was sick of light armor. It's a hatchet with aspirations of war.
@@private_ventures2592 well you're kind of right.
The Khopesh definitely was more axe than sword. And that had a lot to do with the limitations of the material it was made from.
Khopesh were egyptian/lavantine weapons made primarily of copper and later, bronze. When they were made of copper, the metal was softer and less durable, so the design was made to be more like an axe, than a sword because the metal wouldn't hold up as well otherwise.
@@alexanderrahl7034 Absolutely.
On top of that, though, the design still WAYYY outperforms most machete designs. Especially when modern steel is part of the equation. It's hard to make something so light and still give it enough heft for splitting force, but I have no complaints as of yet
@@private_ventures2592 I saw a steel one at a ren fair a couple years ago with some friends. Had I not bought all the other crap I had, I could have gotten it. 685 bucks, with a leather bound grip and engraved stylized design on the blade. Absolutely fucking gorgeous. Kicking myself even now remembering it lol. I'll get one some day
This could seriously be used as an orcish weapon in a fantasy flick. It would be both realistic and look cool at the same time.
I think the main issue with its construction is the devil's edge was made like a machete (with its widely varied ergonomics) rather than an ax. The Khopesh is a full tang axe in a sense so as opposed to having a sword shaped hilt (greater bulk towards the front to better fit the hand during thrusts) which this does... kind of... a more ax like approach (where the bulk is towards the back to mitigate slippage as the axe tries to pull out of your hand to due to the resistance generated during the cut) would be better suited. ESPECIALLY with that much blade going on.
The handle is very strange, as it's also not similar to historical examples.
I mean fine make a weird handle if you're sticking to historical design, but why make a weird handle for its own sake? Odd choice.
The placement of the bottom portion of the edge bothers me. If you let the blade slip far enough, it would come down right on top of your fingers, which is a horrifying prospect given how sharp the blade is, how steep the curve is, and the weight that would obviously be behind it.
The bronze khopesh you showed, by comparison, had a guard, as well as a reasonably sized notch that pushed the start of the edge farther out and away from the projected path of any unfortunate digits.
Yeah but if you're clumsy enough or weak(ill) enough to let that happen you probably shouldn't be handling a blade.
The Kaiser Fair point, but handguards exist for a reason. Notice how Skall let it slide down in his hand during the videos? Sweaty palms lead to accidents, and in this situation an accident could mean the loss of a few fingers instead of just a deep scratch or gash. Not much of a concern for someone as experienced as Skall, but for someone just getting their start? Whoo boy...
That would happen if you thrusted. But if your slashing the blade will slip in the other direction. Especially if you have sweaty hands
Danny Hussain Very true, but the point still stands.
Why would your hand ever move in that direction? There's no way you can thrust with it, it's strictly for slashing.
Egyptian Orcs confirmed!
It‘s obviously made to fit the hands of egyptian gods..duh! ; )
The wonky bevel and handle really bugs me. I'd say that it is an ugly blade but as you showed us it performs great. But it seems quality and price meets in this product. Thanks for the excelent video Skall, once again.
Eero Kovanen I agree, it looks a little crude because of the grind and the handle shape. But with the really good fit and finish, materials, and performance I think it is definitely worth 115 dollars.
May handle good, but is still devilish ugly. Maybee in the zombie apocalypse...
QUESTION: Considering how poorly thought out a lot of movie and TV Show sword fights are, have you ever thought about choreographing and filming a fight sequence using Real historical techniques? I think it would be interesting to see a fight sequence using all real techniques rather than ridiculous sword twirls and exposing you back etc. So how about it? (I know to make it 'exciting you may have widen some cuts etc for dramatic effect or to accomodate a camera, but it ould be cool!)
I know you personally wanna see Skall do this, however there are some youtube videos that are reallly good that already do this by the Adorea Olomouc channel.
Because I would like to see HIS interpretation of how you could use HEMA techniques to make a scene and I imagine he'd also make a fun video. Who knows? Maybe he could get some of his instructor friends in on it. Basically, I just thought it would be cool
oh really? I will check that out ;)
Again, I would like to see what Skall would come up with, that is sort of the point. I'm a subscriber on Skall's channel and thought of something, so I asked. He has mentioned several times his critique of many on-screen sword fights, so I just thought it would be interesting to see him do it and have some fun.
Or staging fights from tv shows and movies using proper fighting techniques. First an overview of the original with commentary and then a remake, in costume and makeup, done correctly. Like the one between Brien of Tarth and Sandor Clagain from GOT.
9:20 It's almost like the manufacturer had made a deal with the devil...
Machiel RG This explains everything...
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It's a damn shame it looks like a Roblox weapon though
The bronze one looks better than the steel one
It is, in terms of craftsmanship and historical accuracy. It's quite a bit more expensive though.
yeah for the most part I agree unless you engrave the blade and use a dark metal inlay
Yeah it does but if Neil gave his Khopesh a mirror polish in my opinion it would be the best looking sword ever in my opinion I mean it already looks amazing but it could look even better in my opinion
@@essenkillerthezombiektz5026 Whose opinion is this?
I would much prefer a longer, thinner khopesh.
did you find any? want really one like you said :)
I like the idea of calling the Devil's Edge a Orcish Khopesh
Dunno, it's kinda ugly in comparison to other Devil's Edge swords and that bronze khopesh
I always see your comments everywhere
Those cuts are looking *EXTRA D E E P*
I've always thought of Khopeshes as like the halfway point between a sword and an ax. so it makes since to me they'd be heavy for their size.
So, ancient Egyptian handle designers beat modern day ones.
TH-cam's gonna be all like... "Did he use the word 'devil'? OH NO! THINK OF THE CHILDREN! BAN THIS BLASPHEMER!" Since TH-cam has become the modern-day inquisition and all.. :D
Martheenas
no one expects the youtube inquisition
I'm starting to think TH-cam itself doesn't expect the TH-cam's inquisition :D I mean.. are they even aware how bad they're fucking up? They'll start giving a shit once it's too late
Someday someone will make a NewTube, It will be a free epicurean utopia.
Heir Apparent Vidme
Not only did he use the word devil, he used it while holding a sharp object. Double -banned! :-P
The edges are insanely uneven. Also I really don't like how there's no guard. So you know, it's designed to be held at the bottom of the handle. That's why the top felt "wrong". Lol. Because it was.
I wonder how Kult of Athena gets their Devil's Edge line so low cost with such high quality..
hey Skall,
Valiant Armory has 'upgraded' it's lineup with an all-american-made line of swords. Do you have any plans of reviewing another Valiant Armory sword? The last time you showed one was quite a while ago.
Sareth
I would appreciate his opinion on valiant arms
Sareth "American made."
Kek.
The Kopesh is one of my favorite swords, would be nice to own the original style but in the 1095 HC steel, the Handle design on this one looks a little to rounded probably why in the mat cutting preview it swerved a bit but still that's a damn good weapon In my opinion would defininetly use if in Anceint times
I keep forgetting you're just on the other side of the border, so any time the weather sucks for me it sucks for you.
I just find the kopesh design of the sword beautiful and elegant
I think the Kopesh should come with a hammer...
*udssr theme plays*
I think that would look really nice with a horse leg bone handle, personal preference there, but at least some kind of nice bone handle.
So an egyptian sword made of steel... Yeah, I see no anachronism there
I fear no man but that thing... It scares me. No really that is scary awesome
“Egyptian kopesh on steroids * *proceeds to ridicule fictional swords for having wider blades than the real ones* *”
“Now this has a very wide blade which of course is a good thing because it helps with cutting * *proceeds to do the same thing again* *”
It's so ugly :( Putting it next to Neil's khopesh really emphasizes that.
Nice to see more budget weapon reviews, especially for broke af college kids. You've really built an amazing channel, I love your stuff and I wish all the best of luck.
The stuff about not needing to test and steel quality etc is a little... weird. Temper is the important factor, and your can't gauge that by looking or how much carbon there is in the metal.
That's fair, but even a mediocre temper on 1095 should not much of a problem with such a thick blade.
for the price, the devil's edge products seems very worthy.. i had my eyes on their boar tusk's fighting bowie
We still use it in Egypt. I am Egyptian. My grandfathers on both sides were farmers. We use it to harvest crops in the field. I used to go with them to the field all the time and I know how to use it.
Damn, I've been looking for a sword worthy of spilling Mesopotamian blood, but I guess I'll have to look elsewhere.
i got a cheaper munitions grade khopesh from KOA and even with a slight warp it’s a CRAZY blade
Some things I've seen and heard, with the historical bronze Khopesh do you think it could actually hook the back someone's ankle with the curved back?
The historical one would be small because historically people were smaller, so the handle would be fine for the ancient egyptians
Skallagrim, I am playing Assasins Creed Origins atm and I recognise a lot of blades such as the Khopesh, because of your videos. Thanks to you I know so much more about those weapons you reviewed. Thanks for that!
Cheers
Joseph Sosa true. Took me some time to recognise them as Romans. xD
@Joseph Sosa Wait. There was Romans in that game?
La Hire yeah in Cyrene and Sinai
A blade this thicc
I've got a handmade knife by a maker who knew what he was doing and it's grip is different on both sides. Similar to yours and I've found that it's for right or left hand. It has a classic Coke bottle shape, too. From watching your video I'd say that the extra length is for a two-hand grip ... ???
Imagine someone tried to rob Stalgrims house, and he just hears the changing of metal as Stalgrim appears at the top of the stairs with every weapon in his possession
Please do a video on the most beautiful shields you've ever seen... I said please...
At first glance I´m unhappy with that notch between ricasso and blade. But all in all I find it kinda nice. Though I definitely like the bronze original more.
Im not going to defend from the eea people... Well... You never know...
Jokes aside, the weird handle is to grab it close to the bottom... The uneven surface is to lock on the thumb on top and the palm on bottom... Still, the lack of pommel makes this weapon less effective...
Every steel reproduction of a khopesh I have seen goes the wrong direction with it.
There is too much metal there!
Steel is superior to bronze in so many ways, and you can still make a better performing sword with a slimmer profile.
I want to see a steel khopesh with blade dimensions similar to 19th century military sabres.
C'mon, you can't criticize the handle, obviously orcs have bigger hands!
Dude. An ad for Shadiversitys new movie played before this video
Anyone here played "tyranny"? The iron Khopesh is pretty much what the disfavoured used...
obviously, you are not going to slay Mesopotamians with it..... hey speak for yourself lol :-D
0/10. Defeated in battle against sea peoples. Lost kingdom. Would not buy again.
What's wrong with these sword makers? I just want a half decent rock splitting sword.
Now I might be wrong but i think the curve on the handle was low because the designer thought to use the weight of the blade for better downward cuts like a machete. The handle really needs to be fixed and I'd add a cutless type hand guard to it. The sheath needs to be better designed for quick draw, all in all the chinese broadsword or an actual cutless would be better.
Have always loved the Khopesh, and this looks absolutely beautiful
That handle being wide up to is useful only for static poses so the hand doesn't slip up towards the blade. Not a handle for active use.
Devil's Edge really surprises me with their Quality/price ratio
Ive got a two handed version from Sabersmith for 450 really good deal
2:06 That finger placement makes me kinda nervous, ngl.
It's lika a kopesh-machete... a kopechete, if you will.
The only problem I have with the kopesh is that I've never seen one that wasn't what I was looking for, all I want is one built into a European sword pattern with a cross guard and not one built like a machete.
Drew Thompson haha!
Drew Thompson Well, it wouldn't be really "that" European. It's an Egyptian weapon. That being said, I wouldn't be against a longer khopesh with a better guard. I'd probably like it better than a falchion/messer.
Don't need to fend off Sea Peoples? Hold on now, you don't know my life.
What kind of helmets would elves wear? Or how would you design a helmet for an elf with long ears?
I purchased one as well, however, for my hand size, the grip felt fine for me.
As well, my blade was straight and did not have the off setting at the tip compared to the handle, as yours did.
I see a lot of hate for this version of the khopesh, but I quite enjoy it. And, in your editors note that it could slip when wet did not hold water (pun intended) when I purposely drenched the handle to test the theory. I do want to mention, however, that I do not enjoy the sharp point that faces the handle without a guard. I was very sceptical about that, but it happened to never be an issue in my case. I have a more historically accurate version of the khopesh, but I have to admit that the heft of the sword using steal over bronze, and the overall sharpness that the blade comes with, definitely makes it a worthwhile addition for the cost.
Love your vids man
Sponsored by Ubisoft?
It's a Dothraki arakh!
100% agree as soon as you pulled it out my first thought was "god i hate that handle"
The Khopesh has some really unique fighting styles, including using the curved blade to disarm an opponent. It's possible the unique handle shape is meant to improve the handling for specific techniques. Just speculation mostly.
So other than reach what are the downsides of using a weapon like the khopesh
Zane Nothing really. Reach is a big deal though
True, that's why I've always thought a cutlass would be such a perfect weapon, enough weight but not to heavy, great power, long reach, a guard
Now. I actually practice Saakhiimraht, which is the fighting style used in Old Egypt. As far as downsides go, you're right. Reach is a thing. But Saakhiimraht is a Sword & Shield technique and relies heavily on shock tactics. Charging in and closing the gap before the enemy can effectively react.
This particular recreation also happens to be based on the Ceremonial Khopesh, and not the one we used in combat, which had an edge in the tip of the inner crook. That was used to hook an opponent's ankles and sever the Achilles Tendon.
The shape of the blade lends itself better to agressive slashes, rather than finesse. Momentum was the engine of this blade.
Poor penetration when thrusting?
Zane probably the rather strange balance
Damn.....that's a really thicc blade.
The handle reminds me of kitchen knife 😂, which is still deadly ;)
"As long as you don't try to split rocks" or shoot it
Every time someone says don't quote me on that i go to reddit and qoute the not quotes.
I had some questions about the khopesh that I'd hope someone here could answer.
So first, the wider khopesh obviously works very well. But I was wondering, what if it were longer, maybe long enough to be used like a bastard sword (asauming that wielding a bastard sword in two hands is more optional)? Do you think it would still be effective like that?
My other question since the khopesh is an up-close weapon commonly used with some sort of shield, how would it work if the user wore a sort of weaponized gauntlet? The way I intended for the gauntlet to work was so that it'd be worn like a normal gauntlet, but the user could both block a strike with it and use it to strike the enemy. How well would that work, if at all?
I have one. It feels like the standard location to grip should be on the bottom, like you showed. The upper part of the handle only seems to work for placement of the second hand.
Loved the shout-out to the Sea Peoples.
...because any civilization can collapse if a more mobile/dynamic one makes a point of causing it. 1177 bce proved that static power structures are vulnerable, and other empires have failed to learn that lesson for millennia. As one modern general put it, "a structure cannot overcome a network."
Consider that last phrase as stolen.
Sure, spread it around :) From viking raids to wind-tunnel tests to civil rights activism to economic development, reality can be changed more effectively by understanding fluid dynamics on a system-wide basis. As Laotse put it: "The softest substance flows through the hardest."
Good review, I have their tactical khopesh the handle on it also is the least impressive part, but for the price point you really cant complain as you said a little reshaping can be done. The sheath is also more of a blade cover than a actual sheath.
Jee that thing is sooo ugly when you hold it next to the intricate historical bronze!
I scored the "tactical" version on KoA discounted to just $25 because it was flawed. The flaw wasn't even on the sword, it was the buckle on the long scabbard straps not working, which doesn't really matter since it still has a built in belt loop. Fantastic value!
Have you seen this man in your dreams?
I'm curious to know how effective would this Khopesh be for cutting brush since I have seen a machete be able to cut brush
It's like the Thousand Sons version.
For a design that's at least 5000 years old I'd say it's pretty good.
Modern humans should probably use a khopesh larger than the ones used by the Egyptians because the Egyptians were short (I believe).
Egyptians were not short
That's a real big boy khopesh
You call that a Khopesh?
Now THIS is a Khopesh
That thing was too big to be called a khopesh. Too big, too thick, too heavy and too rough. It was more like a large hunk of Iron.
It's a hunk of steel that cuts like a mofo. :)
Skallagrim, this was a reference to a manga series called _Berserk_ (monthly since 1989, and widely acclaimed as a dark fantasy masterpiece).
The author is a perfectionist; he has done his research and many locations, armors, devices etc. are inspired by real medieval European (and Indian) counterparts. The protagonist's giant sword is an obvious unrealistic exception, and OP's phrase is exactly how it's described in-universe by other characters (s/khopesh/sword).
You should read it sometime ;)
have you seen the michaelcthulhu khopesh?
Look at that, a woman who doesn't know better. What are the odds.
I would be quite surprised if skallagrim hasn't heard of berserk. Considering that he does have an interest in Anime and weapons.
3:13 not much longer if u account for the curvature