The Esoteric Secrets of Plato’s Cave & the Truth Beyond the Simulation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- Plato's Allegory of the Cave is a powerful tale. Not only is it one of the oldest versions of what, today, we'd call the "matrix" or "simulation" scenario, it's the most practical, prescient, and esoteric. In fact, Plato's cave and the Republic at-large contain occulted layers of meaning that scholars are still discovering and debating about to this day.
In this transmission, we'll summarize the tale and do a deep dive into its more esoteric, often missed layers of wisdom.
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Links and recommended reading:
Amazing podcast on the cave (I am obsessed with this show, in general): shorturl.at/oOkxs
Paper on Proclus and the Divided Line: shorturl.at/8XgWQ
Paper on Plotinus and noesis: shorturl.at/8LMJR
Article about hidden structures in Plato's Republic: shorturl.at/GX5cs
Full text of Plotinus' Enneads: shorturl.at/U5ksw
My video on Plato, the soul • How To Find Your Soul ...
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
02:24 Plato's Allegory of the Cave
09:27 Platonic Forms and Socrates' simile of the sun
13:48 The divided line, knowledge and hidden structures in Plato's Republic
21:07 Proclus and the esoteric map of reality
24:56 The esoteric power of math
31:10 Plotinus, noesis and merging with the highest contemplation
37:48 What it really means to free yourself of the cave or simulation
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When I was young they said of me, "you think too much" and "you're so naive" and since finding THIRD EYE DROPS it feels like coming home to these thoughts and studies and we are living in times I can only hope to prove my life was a true witness to the mantra I used to say under breath " Some people think I think too much, sometimes I think they Think Not. May grace heal us all into wholeness. It's all I ever hoped to wrought."
Same, Same man. What hitted me harder was: "why did even I listened in the first place?" Not in the douchebag way, just like, why was I expecting to be understanded/ to others to have my same sensibility? The conclusion is even higher: we can only love others, never try to understand.
@@chapas777 @Violet0Light
Crazy to see that I wasn't the only kid to be punished for seeing the thing others didn't. Always a "know it all" or actually being scolded and told to " Let someone else answer" A coach of mine once told me,"You CAN hide and lie to everyone forever, but the only person who it will NEVER work on, is whos in the mirror. That's who's survival NEEDS to believe."
Thinking without borders is the best tool a being is born with. Nut cases who run around spewing truth bs only cements shoes and bricks in their pockets of the ones getting spewed on.
Cavus,spiritus, indus,solus,back to Justus Von Liebig, The creator of the current mirror. AL,alchemy, alcohol,algorithm,aldehyde, the trans4mation,having company without recognizing it. Then again that's being in the simulation and not recognizing.
Red words red books,Rosa
Every one of these alchemical spells is the same equation. The more one accepts things as truth, the more entanglement occurs and sooner rather than later, escaping it this go around becomes impossible. Not downing nobody, I'm just saying you are your best source like 👁 am my own source.
All AL is after is A👁 from each,words like spirit is from spiritus, when box collecting began. There's no 👁 in team, no u either. Why I avoid collective mindsets all together.
A conscious individual understands what living free
is,would never under any circumstances talk truth, ask to be followed or follow another.
Books,when the sacred pine tree became just timber,because someone had an agenda to accomplish.
Plato has best described a modern day passport bro, vs plantation bros.
They don't believe us the outside world 🌎 is so nice
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Man, this channel is so good. Truly unique and exactly my jam. Hey Michael, please get Robert Edward Grant on your show so you can talk about Math and geometry as the language of God... and aliens and stuff.
Keep it up man this is amazing. It's obvious you work hard on bringing all this knowledge together and it's truly a blessing to have access to this.
Thank you my friend! Yes he’s been requested a lot!
It's a shame your videos don't get more views. I find them incredibly well made, very well constructed, and very informative. Love your channel!
If you aren’t a spam paid bot with your extremely general message, then what does it matter if more people see it if you got value from it? Are you referring you want other masses of people to conform to your ideologies? To be shown exactly what you agree with and believe?
I agree with what you said, for what it's worth. If you get value from it, just be greatful for it and let the rest go @@blockminingsolutions
@@blockminingsolutionsWtf 😂 They said what they said because they WANT GOOD OUTCOMES for
1) the channel owner (more views = revenue, outreach, etc), and
2) their fellow humans (by seeing something helpful)
Why is someone wishing others good things so foreign to you?? Your comment somehow both over-intellectualizes, and UNDER-intellectualizes, all at the same time.
@@DannyD-lr5yg Precisely. The heart actually does have a brain...
@@blockminingsolutions One day you will have to get out of your head and into your heart.
Watching this on youtube feels a bit like the man who escaped the cave and saw truth came back into the cave and is making shadows trying explain that I'm stuck in a cave. Great video 🔥
That is plato's allegory
The bodhisativah
Amazing job with an incredibly complex topic! 🎉
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This really helped me. I've always loved the cave allegory - used to make my kids watch the claymation animation one (they said it was creepy, I said focus on the story!😅)
So much for me to ponder and apply. "We're all enamored with the shadows on the wall."
I'll be listening to this one multiple times. thanks man
No stone unturned, entertain every aspect of any question. Put it in every thought process you have then find some more lol...
I love these lessons - I like the interviews too, but I really love these lessons you’re a great explainer!!!
Exquisite video. No fat, not too much sugar, well edited and brilliant well thought out. Content coming from someone who clearly cares for their audience. Your honesty comes through clearly. Thank you for the mountain of material you waded through to bring this work, most could not imagine how much heavy reading and time you put in to get this much into one video. Thank you
Thank you for the recognition my friend. Heavy research for this one indeed!
I have that gift of seeing vibrating energy but its a constant thing, not just if I stare at something. I can see energy in absolutely everything. Wild world aint it?
me too. etheric light :D a portal into the quantum multiverse
Okay Gandalf
Simulation theory isn’t a theory, and if it is a theory, it’s a correct one.
@@mikiyastadesse8408 I wish bro but thank you
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"People hate the truth, because it shatters their illusions". ~ Neitzsche.
Beautifully expressed insights my friend! It has always struck me how the freed man is overwhelmed once he is confronted with the truth, and wants to run back to his familiar life knowing it is an illusion.
Also, there is that interesting dynamic when one feels the responsibility to help others once one has learned a truth, while knowing that they will not accept it outright. You expressed this so well!
Thank you brother! And yes, such an important aspect of the story. Yet another example of why you’re more free of the cave than 99 percent of people I know (for whatever my opinion is worth) 🤝
Great video!
The exit from the simulation or the Matrix is by following the path of surrender and least resistance to our beliefs about the true self or the origin of the self
This path is drawn by the lever of connection we can reach to our higher self/Divinity/God. This explains why many of the names you mentioned used meditation or contemplation to reach higher lever of knowledge and identify patterns/sacred geometry/mathematical formulas of what this universe is made of. 💖
Good one. Reminded me of a poem I wrote a long time ago
What a puzzle this thing called God
Invisible, infinite, ancient and odd
There is nothing so strong, so pure and so safe
As the knowing of Truth when one finally wakes
Relax, recall, make an effort to feel
Look inside, you will find the answers revealed
There is no structure standing today
Containing the knowledge to show you the way
No book on this globe will explain the Truth better
Than the mind's many pages read letter by letter
The past has seen men with unbounded knowing
Directing our world from the wrong way it's going
Not many have listened, far less understood
The core of the message was simply "be good"
Try and you'll find it was well worth the trip
Look for yourself, be brave, take a sip
Try and retreat, you’ll still change where you're going
Follow through, just for you, there's an ocean of knowing
There is something called God, I tell you it's true
The puzzle's completion resides inside you
This was stunning! Pluto's story reminds me of my own journey over these past few years. I always resonated with it. This was chock full of wisdom. So gripping! Thank you!
Poor Pluto had his planethood taken from him
Incredible work on this video Michael! Been listening to your podcast since 2020 and this video really sorted out all the Platonic wisdom I've gained from you over the years. I look at you as a parasocial spirit brother of sorts and am grateful for what you put out into the world.
10 minutes in and I just want to express my gratitude to you. Thank you for being brave enough to follow your passion and sharing it with us. You do a fantastic job of being informative while injecting just enough humor and levity into what can be a heavy/jarring topic. I'm learning while having fun. What a combo. I wish you nothing but continued success and growth.
I greatly appreciate that my friend 🙏
I didn't like math or philosophy in school, you made them my favorite. Last night, I was staring at my recently crossed over 32 year old son's picture in trying to connect with him, and the pic became blurry and watery.
I got the chills so many times while listening to this and it might be my favorite of what I call your "lessons" so far, and I really love 'em all.
Thank you! Glad it’s resonating 🙏🙏🙏
Oh, nice! I have been looking forward to this one for a couple weeks now! Another Wonder Dip, yes!
genuinely good, authentic, well composed video.❤
I’m telling you, this shit is real I used to smoke weed and play video games all day for years, but by the age of 23 I finally got a job been working out and stopped playing video games and started hanging out with family. (I’m 25 now) A lot more started following my Yellow brick Road or Thy Will or the path a being of higher power chose for us. Nowadays I see 1:11 or 11:11 or 3:33 or it could be anything like how I drove for 45 min one lane most of the drive and I see 3 people in a row with 666 within their license plate I look and it’s 12:34 almost everyday I see a synchronicity, after I changed my life, I now swear by it, and I’m not easily swayed either guys THIS SHIT IS 100% REAL THO lol for the past 4yrs that I played video games like 16hrs a day (It was bad) and I had a clock right next to me and I’ve probably only seen it do it once or twice a year. Now I see it five times a DAY I’m now 25 so that’s 2 years 5x a day do the math. Fine I’ll do it lol it’s 43,800 times I’ve seen a synchronicity in the past 2yrs (that’s 21,900 times a year as well) this has to be real cuz I played on a PC all day they have clocks everywhere on those things🤯 I have a really good memory too so trust me I used to check my clock every 30min or so now i can almost count on a synchronicity this stuff is real. Y’all should definitely reply to this once you change ur life in a POSITIVE manner and I promise a synchronicity will guide, and do anything that excites your TRUE being, there lies the yellow brick road just have the balls to follow it, and learn the reason why you’re alive ❤️ PS: I lost over 200lb in less than a year. You can say it was a “Phatt positive change”🤣
HMU add my instagram @Laithgod 🤙🏽
Huge props! One important thing to remember is that memory is creative. Chances are you are overestimating by half AT LEAST, but chances are its even less. You still have probably been seeing it a crap ton, just not 40k times in 2 years. Unless you are talking about any particular numbers, like it could be 11 or 1234 or 333 or 666. If you seen 40k of these different numbers and more that is something I could believe but its still anomalous. I can relate to where you were at 23, super proud of you for turning things around and become a new self. Its not easy but its worth it!!
So much of what you shared of this video, especially toward the end, we're near verbatim realizations that I had since discovering the world and moving to enlightenment. Like word for word. Incredible.
Great production
This is so well done Michael!
A 30-45 minute dive into more detail of the harmonics and other geometric structures embedded within The Republic would be another massive undertaking, but it would make for such an incredible solo wonder dip!
Until then, I will check out the links in the description that you provided.
Thank you for peeling back all them layers!
Since I’ve been a kid I had the feeling that everything is magical and not very solid. Growing up I forgot those moments of wonder.
Michael, I had very high expectations for this video...
And still the depth of what we received has blown me away!
Truly food for the soul, my reality-tunnel is shaking from the foundations for the first time in a long time!!!
You’re too kind! I actually was going to talk about reality tunnels and Robert Anton Wilson in this vid too, but it was just too jam-packed!
@@THIRDEYEDROPS Although I was already familiar with the concept, I'd say it was implied enough to not require a specific mention😄
9 minutes in, and I’m thoroughly enjoying the presentation and delivery style. I hit the subscribe button.
Welcome and thank you!
Very well explained! I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on criticisms of platonism and thoughts on later works of neo-platonic thought. Maybe a future video topic?
You seem so familiar to me so I always resonate with you when you pop up. The synchronicities are real everyday when you observe the true meaning in what creates it.
Algorithm tickling - but also want to say how I always enjoy your monologues. Great work again
This is very well researched, thought out, and expressed, I used a simpler version at the beginning of some college classes here in Japan for particular classes, particularly Comparative Culture. But when I noticed the Mandelbrot set on the wall, followed on the spot.
Delightful as always... I love the quality of the video editing and all the graphical contents that make me want to take multiple screenshots 😅
You put so much work into everything you publish and it’s just so satisfying, informative, and awe inspiring to see the end result of your efforts. This is my top favorite channel on all of yt for sure.🎉
Thank you so much! 🙏🙏🙏
This channel is special and necessary. Ty so much for your insights and access to the highest quality and applicable knowledge. XO.
Honestly a great video. Thanks for taking the time to put it together
Such great work. Truly great. ✌🏼
It's the light you emit when you look at something that collapses the wave form meaning, when you leave your home it doesn't bother"rendering"it any more
So what about camera's? They don't emit the light you're speaking of so there must be other factors at play
@@Toastedandtoasted of course they do friend. They're emmiting waves how do you imagine they work otherwise
@@Toastedandtoasted anything looking at anything is reading the reflection of the wave it's sent out be it camera or life
Can you help me understand? Are you saying the observer eye/camera is sending out waves?
Your home will not be rendered to you the system will be needing lot of data to render everything at the same time, but it will be rendered to other people and ither players like dogs cats squirrels Cockroaches etc. We live in a multiplayer game some characters login off and the others logging on.
Thx also for talking clear articulated on a good tempo. Recently discovered this channel...very very good stuff 👌
This was was beautiful done! Ty! ♥️👏🏽
This has fast become my favorite channel!
Your video was in my morning lineup. Enjoyed it and came online to like it and subscribe. I had to chuckle at the name of your channel, Third Eye Drops. Love it.
Welcome and thanks! 🙏
you got a subscriber with this video. Good quality. keep with the good content up to infinity
Thank you so much for this video and your channel, Michael. We are all blessed to have someone like you that is willing to elucidate the mysteries and to lead us out of the cave. Thank you, Michael.
This is such a good video with such a good theme, that i can only say “Thank you”! Namaste 🙏🏻
Wonderful to find someone that can deeply ponder.
Nice...also impressed with the tie in to spirituality when you dropped an "O" out of the Good!
I vibrated my way to this channel and boy and I happy
GREAT episode, you really have a gift for these kinds of videos. You have inspired me to actually get a copy of the republic and read it. Any other book recommendations on the topic of Plato / Platonism?
Incredible work. Enjoyed this so much
Thanks man you make a lot of sense and I get some of what you say I'm 60 yrs old and my grandfather once told me we never stop learning cheers
I appreciate it thank you my friend!
Thank you for putting into words what I have experienced. I’m indebted to you. ❤
WOW. you made a video about my Google history again lol thanks for making video on this topic. been looking specifically for this content!
Awesome video man!
Well done Michael. I could feel the Platonic torching passing through the centuries and popping up in your video. Best new fact I learned: John Bremer's claim, at 18:33, that Plato placed the divided-line analogy--which depicts the four levels of reality as a line broken into two unequal segments, each of which is broken by the same ratio into two pieces--at that part of the dialogue that correlates to the golden ratio that the divided line represents. "In mathematics, two quantities are in the golden ratio if their ratio is the same as the ratio of their sum to the larger of the two quantities." (Wikipedia) The golden ratio, also known as Phi, is an irrational number, equal to about 2.618... Bremer's claim reminded me of the philosophy professor and mathematician J. B. Kennedy's book, The Musical Structure of Plato's Dialogues. He argues that Plato counted all of the letters in each dialogue, and organized them into perfectly equal blocks of letters to fit on a standard-sized scroll. He then divided each dialogue into twelve equal sections, which correlate to the 12-note Pythagorean musical scale. If you vibrate two strings of the same length, letting one string vibrate as a whole, while vibrating the other at each of the 12 ratios, 1/12, 2/12, 3/12, etc., you will notice that each of those vibrating ratios of the one string will be either harmonious or dissonant with the vibrations of the other whole string. According to Kennedy, Plato places words about harmony and dissonance at the carefully correlated sections of each of his dialogues, when you divide them in 12 equal parts. In addition to direct references to actual music, dissonant and harmonious themes regularly appear at the points in each dialogue that correlate to those kinds of musical notes.
I started coming out of the cave over 20 yrs now. Can't even suggest they are prisoner here. Very lonely out here too. I've even thought many times i wish i could go back in but it's impossible. It was very scary at first but now I'm at peace in myself now. I ask for wisdom and she gave it to me. Wisdom's name is Sophia and she is a living being. Seek her because she wants you to. May she bless you with peace and joy.
This was truly amazing. Thank you!
I enjoyed this so much. Thank you for your work. Such gems
Great vid. Very in depth. Seems like it’s performing quite well too.
Wonderful mind melt, thank you for exploring Plato’s theme!
Programming bliss i call it, get the soft mind ready to take in outer matric screen. Great channel ❤️
Thank you this was very intriguing and gave me a new perception of life
Really great stuff. I'm always amazed at what they figured out. What they KNEW. This video was right on time in my own, umm, conceptual 'expansion'
Thanks for the deep dive in the cave. Fun to reflect on the shadows with you!
You my friend have a new subscriber 😂 love this channel!
Thank you so much for what you do 🙌🏻❤️🙏🏻
Thank you,Nice work
"While the black magician at the time of signing his pact with the elemental demon maybe fully convinced that he is strong enough to control indefinitely the powers placed at his disposal, he is speedily undeceived.
Before many years elapse he must turn all his energies to the problem of self-preservation.
A world of horrors to which he has attuned himself by his own covetousness looms nearer every day, until he exists upon the edge of a seething maelstrom, expecting momentarily to be sucked down into its turbid depths.
Afraid to die--because he will become the servant of his own demon--the magician commits crime after crime to prolong his wretched earthly existence.
Realizing that life is maintained by the aid of a mysterious universal life force which is the common property of all creatures, the black magician often becomes an occult vampire, stealing this energy from others.
According to medieval superstition, black magicians turned themselves into werewolves and roamed the earth at night, attacking defenseless victims for the life force contained in their blood." - *Manly P. Hall*
Nice
"Through the darkness of future past,
The magician longs to see,
One chants out between two worlds,
Fire, walk with me."
-Mike 😉
What a lovely video. I'm so thankful the algorithm delivered you to my home page. New follower for sure ❤
Welcome 🙏
Excellent presentation. You’re on the money. Keep it up.
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When i was younger I actually remember seeing plants and nature all pixelated...and being just mesmerized by it.
Stigmatism
@@BonenJump-126gulph so that's the reason?
Great transmission!
Great stuff, keep it coming…
Thank you for all your efforts on this brilliant podcast. I started my exposure to philosophy with John Vervaeke's Awakening from the Meaning Crisis and tried following the After Socrates as recommended, and I read the Allegory of the Cave, and some quotes and it just didn't move me. I was like "so what?" and you answered that for me here. I can't even get through Bernardo Kastrup's Decoding Jung's Metaphysics. I might just have to rely on podcasters for my philosophy....
Check out Wayne Bush and Howdie Mickoski.
I had an experience while meditating that was like a nuclear bomb exploding in my brain after all my attention got sucked into a single point in my vision and i heard myself say the word Beingness. This was long before i stumbked on Eckhart Tolle. That day i was walking on air and could feel fire in every cell in my body. I felt that the meaning of the universe is love. I will never forget that experience, it is still vivid when other past memories have long faded away
I love you homie
Excellent, as ever. 🌀🤙⚡🙏
Mind igniting! I shared on fb. Can't wait to see what they make of it.
Simply BRILLIANT!
Thank you for a Great Video.
The ones who think they've escaped the cave created the cave in the first place.
Really great vid…thank you!
Coincidence I think not, but I just this week I got my mom to join me in my morning sun gazing and stretch routine. Also after dinner we go enjoy the yard for some grounding. I have to say my days have had a higher rate of synchronicities since I started this routine.
Amazing episode 👏💫🚀❤️
"A sunny smile and I'm a King a generic world that's clean". "Oh you're an idealist".
Good job man keep passing on the knowledge
Subbed within the first 2 minutes. Great stuff
Ah big gratitude, thank you so much my friend!
Biblical scripture says that humans were made in God’s image.
Where most are content to accept this as truth, I seek to understand what an image is and what can be understood from examining it deeper.
There is an expression, “the spitting image of” implying a strong likeness or similarity between two objects.
An image, then, is a representation.
When we begin speaking of representation, we also cross into the territory of simulation.
There is power in the concept of the “image”. We are able to construct systems of thought and behavior modeled after an ideal. We are able to “fake it until we make it”, play pretend and practice until we are made “perfect”. We are capable of metamorphosis.
I feel that humans perceiving they are “made in the image”, illustrates our ability to and our desire to perceive likeness (especially in reference to the “highest form”). It’s one of our greatest abilities. We see its application in our development of analogy, symbology and Math, and in our quest for an unifying theory of everything.
There are many times I've tried to share my experiences. But nobody will listen. People are consumed by their own reality. Through our own experiences, we reason and judge. This is what we call our truth. So I find that it's much better for me to just hold on to my piece, to watch and observe, to play dumb. I find I learn a lot more that way. If somebody asks me if I understand something, whether I understand or not, I tell them no, explain it to me. I do this so they can teach me what they know. What I've come to realize is that we all have our individual experiences. For anyone to say, this is the way it is, and im sure of it, is truly ignorant. Would you be surprised if I were to tell you that everything in this video should be questioned? Everything Plato taught should be questioned? Pythagorean theory should be questioned? Your own understanding should be questioned? Although they have found things that seem to relate to a higher reality. Would you be surprised if I told you that this higher reality is also a false reality? I go through life now, and I just see that everybody's entranced in their own delusion. They're all living in their own deception.
I see that everything is in a way like an act. Do you really believe that anyone can love you for you? Everyone knows that love, just like everything else, is a performance. If you were to take away all preconceived expectations and demands. If you weren't seeking to gain anything, but there was still love, what kind of love would that be? Can you actually earn someone's loyalty without rewarding them? Can you actually have a relationship without taking their performance into consideration? Can you actually love someone without wanting something in return? I have gone through most of my life, taking life so seriously.
And now I'm learning how to have fun and enjoy it. What if I were to tell you that everything that you value, that you hold precious and dear to your heart, everything that you have invested your time, money, and resources, everything that you are passionate about, everything that gives you meaning, and purpose in life. What if I were to tell you that all of that would have to be offered as a sacrifice, because all of that is what's holding you back from a higher reality. You can not rely on your 5 senses, your experiences, or your reason or intellect. This thing that you're searching for is much higher than the 5 senses, or your experiences, and it can't be understood with reason and intellect. How do you then perceive this thing you're searching for? How do you then interact with this thing? And how do you then have an encounter with this thing? Well, therein lies the great mystery. So I'm not here to share my experience. I'm not here to share what I have accomplished. What I'm here is to say that I don't know. I'm interested in knowing what you know. Possibly you will question everything, and you will maybe 1 day let go of everything. Is this too high of a price for you? Is it too much of a risk for you? If it is then you're not worthy to obtain this thing. Rulers and kings are willing to give up all their wealth to encounter what it is that I have found. But they are not willing to give up their life for something they're unsure of. So I will remain silent and take this reward with me to my grave. Possibly one day somone will buy the feild and dig it back up.
There is no such thing as an individual experience, you can imagine there is one, but in the real world, Zero, one and two are not experienceable
They don't physically exist as an experience , they are just imaginary ideas and concepts that only exist in the tiny little Left PFC
So the other question becomes , why pretend the rest of your body is doing nothing at all ?
I mean we all know that the Emotion's are nothing to do with the Cortices and that the emotional brain does not listen or pay any attention to sound complexity, it just hears noise
Which means you cant talk and convince it to change your emotional state
So again I ask , why are you pretending your lower brain does not exist ?
You are spot on with the math. Started from the beginning a year ago and it is changing my brain. Runs through everything.
Exit The Cave - Howdie Mickoski. I recommend this book.
Excellent Michael
Thank you
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Loved it ❤
Subscribed too!
Deadly 💫 🌟
Listened on spotify but back for round 2 ❤
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Thank you ❤
Absolutely beautiful
This is an amazing video, thank you for making this! I studied philosophy and this is spot on (not that you need my nod - I am just overjoyed to drink this in!)
@thrideyedrops maybe Socrates knows he knows nothing once he realized the way in which he knows is a projection of Nous, and thus not "his"? I like to think of that projection as the Higher Self, your next-dimensional being which is not time bound and connected to the source...but man you just blew my mind - that's just when you are looking from our perspective towards the Good. From the other direction it may not be "my higher self" just the projection of Nous to me 🤯
Divided line, full circle haha
I am greek, I am a mathematian and I have studied Plato 's "Πολιτεία" (Republic is not a good translation imo). Very good analysis, congrats!
Thank you