Creating Instant Overheads and Mixups with Blue Roman Cancels! - Guilty Gear Strive

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  • @Rooflemonger
    @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Some GG Strive tech! There's a million and one ways to mixup with roman cancels to be sure, but the way detailed in the video is (mostly)universal and no gimmicks or setups needed! It kinda requires you to set up some macros unless you extra fast hands but otherwise its all pretty simple! Even though its technically using the run for momentum, even someone like Nagoriyuki who can't run can still use the tech which is interesting and fun!

  • @user-cj4fu8qq9b
    @user-cj4fu8qq9b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    i-no: look what they need to mimic a fraction of my power

  • @Rooflemonger
    @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Got my 2nd covid shot and everyones warning me it might kick my rear end, so if I go radio silent for a few days then thats why haha. Next KoF 15 teaser should be tonight, and with some other stuff I am seeing from Famitsu it might be K' who is next in line for a proper trailer? That could be next week though. More GG Strive coming as well, and its time to start talking about Melty Blood Type Lumina real soon cause it comes out at the end of the month!

    • @meltyblood
      @meltyblood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bout time! Good luck

    • @s4ds4d
      @s4ds4d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Got my first today only SA is a bit slow lol

    • @NurseLee
      @NurseLee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It will or can. You body may gonna ache like a bitch. Take care

    • @no_nameyouknow
      @no_nameyouknow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I felt sick for like 30 hours. Not too bad though.

  • @absoul112
    @absoul112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Someone's going to make that "look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power" meme with I-no aren't they?

    • @edivimo
      @edivimo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And with Millia...

    • @viewtifulgold4223
      @viewtifulgold4223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It already exists lmao

    • @user-cj4fu8qq9b
      @user-cj4fu8qq9b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah someone will do this comment

    • @MiketheNerdRanger
      @MiketheNerdRanger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I literally came across one seconds before encountering this comment.

  • @ThePlasticBowl
    @ThePlasticBowl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Ehh my Potemkin will be just fine with 7 Megafist overheads in a row.

  • @OiVjEGAz
    @OiVjEGAz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    For Giovanna,
    You have to do it off of her DP.
    It leaves her airborne.

    • @OiVjEGAz
      @OiVjEGAz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1000Tomatoes true statement, not enough people use her 6hhh from what I've seen.

    • @OiVjEGAz
      @OiVjEGAz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1000Tomatoes I main Gio, I wouldn't recommend using it only in block string staggers which it why you say it's risky I'm sure.

  • @Gruffaloo
    @Gruffaloo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I don't think this has anything to do with momentum, what I think might be happening is that by inputting forward dash before backdash + rc you're dashing backwards then immediately rc drifting forward. That would explain why it still works with nagoriyuki

  • @burneraccount900
    @burneraccount900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You see Rooflemonger Leo gets it because he needed the mix.

  • @absoul112
    @absoul112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One thing that's cool about Anji is that you can use this and RCing the K follow-up of Fujin.

    • @mikairu2944
      @mikairu2944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what's relevant about this is that is has no tell other than the prc flash which unreactable really, doing it after fuujin hop gives plenty room for catching on a possible incoming overhead

    • @GumshoeClassic
      @GumshoeClassic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikairu2944 If you do it close enough to the ground after the hop you can essentially create the same mixup. Immediately use j.P or land for 2P. The long "tell" from the hop doesn't really matter that much because they still need to guess between high/low/grab.
      The big problem is being knocked out of the hop, but you can pull this off after an otg Fuujin as well, just gotta time it right.

  • @jettmanas
    @jettmanas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for explaining that, including non-standard run characters. Faster than a Dust, so it could come in handy (if I can pull it off).

  • @CoolAndNormal
    @CoolAndNormal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    like 4 minutes in it was dawning on me that i-no gets this for free and i dont need to worry about it lmao

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mention as much in the vid lol

  • @AmerSDD
    @AmerSDD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2ys ago I wasn't even in the game , yet I bought the game loved it and im still learning from ur old videos roof by all means thank u ❤

  • @RX7jkr
    @RX7jkr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not once have I got it work by holding the Dash macro. The entire input for it to work for me is Dash (tap) ~ 4RC.
    You make it look easy but this input is actually more complex than it seems lol.

    • @brandonwilbur2146
      @brandonwilbur2146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      based comment, couldn't figure out the input from the video but this works 100% consistent

    • @fps70
      @fps70 ปีที่แล้ว

      actually input is so fast that you need to do it almost simultaneously

  • @phdbot4483
    @phdbot4483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ooh! That's gonna be something to look out for in the future!
    Meanwhile Potemkin only needs the Fast RC Pot Buster or Fast RC Heat Knuckle! >:3

  • @CrescentFreshAtBest
    @CrescentFreshAtBest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lol Sol's face at 7:11

  • @scottnotpilgrim
    @scottnotpilgrim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sol getting what he deserves in the thumbnail made the video for me

  • @kcuclord2779
    @kcuclord2779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wake up babe, new rooflemonger video

  • @ath_greek
    @ath_greek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the guide. Most they don't explain the little things

  • @iliakatster
    @iliakatster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe its b/c holding back cancels Gio's dash? test doing the RC with down+back with Gio, maybe it'll work then?

  • @hoodwynk1389
    @hoodwynk1389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pot Mains: me have megafist, life good.

  • @AlLocks
    @AlLocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking at how you got your button set up.... The macro on circle with HS on R1.... I wanna try that

  • @dudseyloler3516
    @dudseyloler3516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like how you worded that not everyone has privileged normals.

  • @Dwish305
    @Dwish305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    AWESOME!

  • @cylondorado4582
    @cylondorado4582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's kind of like an MK11 hop attack, except it's instant and it costs meter.

  • @Caulin_
    @Caulin_ ปีที่แล้ว

    If you do this as Ky you wont notic his landing, idk why but I dont notice his landing but when I cancel it I can get JS

  • @othellmartin6302
    @othellmartin6302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So just tested it out don't have to hold the dash button more like tap it before the 4RC

  • @aldielegarcia6863
    @aldielegarcia6863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to utilize dash macro more but in keyboard its kinda weird. I'm using the fake hitbox layout but I don't really now where to put the dash button without it being awkward, I use 456 12 on the numerical keyboard for P, S, H, K, D respectively. I'm using 7 for dash and 3 for RC But its really awkward to reach for the dash button while pressing other buttons

    • @theblackdeath10
      @theblackdeath10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You might want to move your buttons off numpad, on fightstick I use a top row pinky key for dash macro, k and Hs are done with thumb p with pointer s with middle dust with ring, rc is the pinky key below dash macro

    • @aldielegarcia6863
      @aldielegarcia6863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theblackdeath10 you might be onto something, maybe I can use my pinky for dash on my left. I'll have to find a key that I can press comfortably

  • @harishodzic350
    @harishodzic350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a pot and gio player i am very sad

  • @hk5hk5
    @hk5hk5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried to do it with chipp in this patch but it doesn't work, summit is doing it. Maybe I am missing something

  • @davidtran1360
    @davidtran1360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am able to get the drift forward BRC. However when I press p, I get the grounded version. What am I doing wrong?

  • @brendansmith8631
    @brendansmith8631 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know if you can get a bomber loop going off of this??

  • @frontman6849
    @frontman6849 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can anybody explain it to me, step by step, please, i tried follow video guide but it doest work

  • @sem3ndem0n_73
    @sem3ndem0n_73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is really cool but why would anyone not use the dash macro though?

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      some people either don't know or act weird about it.

    • @theblackdeath10
      @theblackdeath10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Leith Aziz PAGY are you sure your timing is not weird because I've never run Into that

    • @Renoistic
      @Renoistic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use the dash macro but I find it way easier to do the dash RC manually.

    • @iorilamia
      @iorilamia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like to use as few buttons as possible , so dashing with the stick has been fine for me.

    • @lastburning
      @lastburning 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iorilamia I can understand that. 5 buttons is already plenty. It kind of sucks how you should use 7 buttons in Strive. That's uncomfortable.

  • @hokageofgaming
    @hokageofgaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know roofle went over it in the video but I seem to be having trouble executing it, any suggestions?

  • @nadeshiko2842
    @nadeshiko2842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of the comments in this video are so underrated lol

  • @AnimalsmusicFGC
    @AnimalsmusicFGC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have refined the instant overhead with nago. I should make a video .I've been doing this on people since day 1

  • @lastburning
    @lastburning 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing that kind of sucks about this game is that you now need 7 buttons instead of 5 and it's clunky to map that many to an arcade stick.

  • @trollenciofuu
    @trollenciofuu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i cant find a way to do it everytime, any tips?

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      its pretty much as it is, you just gotta find the timing. dash, then immediately back, RC. You can slow the yt vid down in the settings and look at my inputs

    • @trollenciofuu
      @trollenciofuu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rooflemonger thanks for replying :DDD

  • @Razor69enu
    @Razor69enu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Advice needed: As a Ram main i can't find an application for this tech. The only normals i can use after instant overhead (by the way, only j.P, nothing else works) are either 5K or 2K with only possible option to follow being 623P. j.P>5K>623P - not very impressive combo for half a bar. Am i missing something, or Ram is really out of luck and have no use for this tech?

  • @droppedpackage1344
    @droppedpackage1344 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had anyone tried this with ram? I can only get her jP to come out and it doesn't seem to lead into much. Not sure how practical this is for her

    • @droppedpackage1344
      @droppedpackage1344 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could also be my training settings so I guess the better question is what are the best settings to practice what this can combo in to?

    • @brandonwilbur2146
      @brandonwilbur2146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yea tried it and same deal. she can't throw any buttons but jP. doesn't look too relevant. Ram has good corner pressure though so it shouldn't be too bad.

  • @fps70
    @fps70 ปีที่แล้ว

    For all of you who wonders: it's not fixed, if you can't do it, this is because input is rediculously tight and fast. This is not so easy as shown in video lol

  • @the0therethan
    @the0therethan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does this also work with PRC? Or is the aerial back-forward dash a BRC specific tech

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BRC specifically, cause you have to be in the dash animation for a frame or two. There are many mixups with purple rcs for characters that can create similar situations, but its all character specific vs this being more universal

    • @the0therethan
      @the0therethan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rooflemonger lol I guess I should’ve realized that the tech being tied to the dash animation meant that there isn’t a way in the game to prc. Thanks for replying tho

    • @Reydriel
      @Reydriel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess you could technically do something similar if you Fast PRC out of a move that leaves you airborne, like maybe Ky's Foudre Arc. Don't know if that works though

    • @the0therethan
      @the0therethan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Reydriel yeah I’ve been doing prcs after sol bandit revolver to get instant overheads

  • @FrancoMapua
    @FrancoMapua 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sooooo it's a dash kara?

  • @larquefausse3623
    @larquefausse3623 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't seem to get anything to come out in time with Anji. I get the puff of dust when landing so I know that I'm doing it right, but none of the normals seem to fast enough to do anything with it.
    Any fan-bros care to confirm?

    • @SlothWindGod
      @SlothWindGod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll give it a shot then respond to you. Will say tho that k PRC I'd already pretty strong

    • @RX7jkr
      @RX7jkr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      j.K is about the only fast normal that works with this.

    • @SlothWindGod
      @SlothWindGod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RX7jkr yes indeed.

    • @RX7jkr
      @RX7jkr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SlothWindGod
      I actually just made a video showcasing some of these BRC IOH combos starting with j.K both mid-screen and in the corner as well as empty lows starting with 2K.
      th-cam.com/video/-Dri6Nwh2b8/w-d-xo.html

    • @SlothWindGod
      @SlothWindGod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RX7jkr you have given me new tech so I have liked and subscribed

  • @TonTheHungry
    @TonTheHungry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro I made a video on the instant aerial from Dash Fast BRC and named it the BRC HOP, please name it that please!!!!

  • @isimitaiwo9599
    @isimitaiwo9599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can goldlewis do it?

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yep! Alhtough gotta do kick not punch, punch hits too high up to hit most characters crouching

  • @Oscargoo
    @Oscargoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can't do it consistently.... anyone have any tips???

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      once you get it it makes more sense. If you ever played SF. its hold dash, then back+rc with plink timing

  • @BushinAjnin
    @BushinAjnin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm sad as a Gio Main. Hopefully I can try to create one on my own using her DP that barely hops off the ground
    Maybe there will be an opportunity to create Tech inside that window. Although I know the execution will be very high

  • @NeoBoneGirl
    @NeoBoneGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this only BRC? If it is, it’s still kinda cool, but it definitely wouldn’t be the game breaker some people think it is right now

    • @AnimalsmusicFGC
      @AnimalsmusicFGC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can create some really unique mixups off of PRC as well

    • @NeoBoneGirl
      @NeoBoneGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blastimbre That’s what I was thinking, though. If it’s only useful on a knockdown, it’s a little more telegraphed, and thus weaker as a mixup, and also vulnerable to backdash n stuff, as opposed if you could just true blockstring into a 50/50

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This specific one is only brc yes cause you need the backdash. Lots of charactesr have prc setups sure, but the whole point of this one is its mostly universal, no need for character specifics

  • @MundoSD
    @MundoSD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm baffled how I've only done it once, but it's definitely still possible (to anyone wondering if it works).
    Edit: sorta figured it out, but still not easy lol

  • @guidomista5
    @guidomista5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool trick I can't use because Potemkin is too big of a boy

    • @cylondorado4582
      @cylondorado4582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If only Potemkin had an option against someone crouch blocking...

  • @HandleName_CB
    @HandleName_CB 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would you specify blue RC? This can be done by any RC except Yellow, which is common sense...

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it absolutely cannot be done by any RC but blue, that's then entire point of the mix. You can't cancel any attack into a backdash

  • @shaddykack
    @shaddykack 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s a lot of meter for a single overhead fam

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      single overhead into combo conversion into wallbreak for about 35-40% yeah

  • @jlstudio1050
    @jlstudio1050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also useless for millia rip

  • @TheAciditty
    @TheAciditty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dash macro is cheating I'll just suck at doing it manual.

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      dash macro is not cheating and is infact one of the best things about the game

    • @littlegentleman3262
      @littlegentleman3262 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is dash macro cheating?

    • @NeoBoneGirl
      @NeoBoneGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They put the button in, how is it cheating

    • @HeavyMetalLink05
      @HeavyMetalLink05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Put the Ego down bro. Dash button never hurt anyone, and using it doesn't make you a cheater lol

    • @TheAciditty
      @TheAciditty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@littlegentleman3262 It allows you to buffer inputs while still holding forward. Now its cheating to me and in no way should it be taken out of the game. More of a personal morals thing but I am a firm believer in that if someone bought something they should be able to use it how they want.