People are making accusations that Sony pays Tony. I on the other hand still can't figure out why Sony doesn't pay Tony to fix their cameras and overcome many shortcomings which aren't limited by technology.
@@cogmission1 His complaints about the a1 is legit though. I am experiencing the same experience with the 70-200 GM as well. Actually I would criticize the a1 more than Tony, and I am surprised few people talked about the HSS, EVF, and IBIS problems of the a1.
Things I would like improve: 1. To be able to select Rear Aperture Dial for ISO, without having the need for “My Dial 1” 2. Independent reverse for Front/Rear dial. 3.Indipendent Video/Photo mode EVF Sensor (Example: auto switch between EVF and Screen, but once it starts recording, the camera stays Screen Only, it keeps sensing my gimbal arm) 4. Switching between movie and photo mode faster without having to hold and twist the dial
No3 is confusing. Sony has a default setting where if you tilt the screen a little bit (up or down, doesn't matter), the camera stays screen only. It's specifically designed for gimbal use.
@@Mockingmob I actually stumble upon this when I was playing with the flip out screen. Did not know it's a feature :o . My 8yr old Canon 650D can do that right out of the box (point number 3) It's just a little annoying for me that the screen have to be offset slightly left.
Really nice, Tony. The primary point for me is that you give a lot of advice useful to a wide range of users. Different camera users might make quite different choices, based on what you said. That puts your reviews on a higher plane than many others.
Sony A7S iii is not a vlogging camera. It is a professional video camera that costs 4000$ without any lenses. Lets be serious. And even if you can afford it its not the best vlogging camera. It does not have small size and it doesnt have the best image stabilization.
huge portion of viewers use mobile devices for watching so 24fps can resemble stuttering or even make someone think there's poor cell service, depending on the shots of course - like panning, dynamic videos
Tony/Chelsea, I need advice...what 3 lenses should I take to Egypt with an R5 out of RF: 800, 24-105, 15-35, adapted EF 200-400 1.4x, 85 1.2, 70-200 2.8 iii? Thanks. Anyone else is appreciated as well. Tourism photography
would be interesting to see, they definitely did a great job with bmpcc6kpro - it's an impressive apsc camera if stabilization & autofocus is not a priority
This video looks amazing. But that Sony camera is not cheap. Maybe a bit much for a beginner. Ok, if you can afford it then of course go for it. I started recently with a canon m50 shooting 1080p pumping out raw. I plan to eventually upgrade but no rush. I make really good looking video, not quite like this, but way acceptable. I have one of those dummy batteries that I plug into the biggest battery pack I could find(26800). When walking around, I have the battery in my back pack. At home I can plug that battery into the wall so it never runs out. That screen that goes to the side is a must have for me unless use an external screen or my phone. Isn't it fun? An idea is to record to the camera with a decent microphone and record to a good recorder separately just in case the mic pops out of the camera or some other issue. Redundancy is my favorite work. I recently got a mic preamp that accepts 2 mic inputs in any configuration with any type of plug. It's not expensive and the sound is crazy good. I know a guy who always shoots with 2 m50s held on a custom holder so he always has 2 of everything and can use different lenses etc. I think that It's a great idea. What do you think of the Affinity Photo software. It does everything that photoshop does and you pay once. And it's available on iPad. A lot of photoshop users are switching because if how good it is and the price. Actually the full photoshop is also available on iPad now.
Perfect Vlogging camera, but then you list a ton of issues! Hahha. I agree that it's a perfect vlogging camera, but I guess this points out that no camera is perfect. There's always something tough to deal with! Even my R5 to me, has been the perfect vlogging camera. But that's my perspective. For someone else, they may hate it. But it's ok! Great video!
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I was not aware of a problem with the "tap to track focus" in Sony compared to Canon. I wished you had gone more in depth on that part...that kind of usability issues are important for most. More important compared to record limits and overheating. The Firmware wish-list is excellent. Sony should start working on that list today for the A7SIII and FX3 !!!
Saying it is the best "vlogging camera" is an insult to how good this camera really is. This is meant for so much more for filmmakers, I wish you had touched on that
I believe you are 100% honest when you say that you are on the consumer’s side and nobody else’s. The problem is, you are switching platforms too fast. (I am not talking about reviews) Canon to nikon, nikon to sony, sony to canon, panasonic to sony, Fuji somewhere between etc. No consumer does that, that fast, due to the cost. I know a lot of people that did purchase d810 or d850 or an xt4 watching your videos, a few years ago. Those people need to know what they can do with the one they own as much as what your current setup/newest tech is capable of.
please do reviews of the tamron apsc lenses for sony.... (like the 17-70 2.8, the new 11-20 2.8, the 150-500)
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9 MONTHS ?? :D The gap between youtubers and "normal people" is crazy :D Haha :D I preordered my a7sIII and got it in december 2020 and some got it at the end of december. I get why this is but the disconnection is crazy ... other than that the a7siii is a dream of a camera. i also have a fx6 but maybe i will sell it because i really think the a7siii is just better
Fx3 would be the more obvious thing to mention instead of the A7SIII as being the better camera than the FX6. I can understand that. But the FX6 gives DCI4K, and variable ND and other video tools.
Considering almost everyone buying the A7S III are buying it for video, it makes me curious why they are choosing this model over the FX3. The camera internals are identical, but the body is so much better. For example, the lack of EVF makes it more useable on smaller gimbals, the cooling is important in hot environments, and the five quarter/twenty sockets are pure gold and makes the FX3 dramatically more flexible.
@@mirrorlessny Hybrid shooters tend to not buy low megapixel sensors. They go for the GH5 instead of the GH5S, and they go for the A7 series rather than the A7S series. Video is the only logical place for low resolution sensors. When we get to a point where 8K becomes normal, that is when I see hybrid shooters entering the picture for the A7S of that era.
@@artistjoh yea good points, while 12mp feels enough for most casual photo needs, it's definitely better to have more = 20/24mp for extra cropping room / printing large / event photography / wildlife
I think a substantial number of A7S3 owners bought their before they knew the FX3 was coming, and one takes a substantial loss in selling an A7S3 just to purchase the FX3.
@@KeithSklower Good point. I consider myself fortunate that I had to take time to save pennies for the A7S III, and that the FX3 came out while I was still saving up. For me, once seeing what the FX3 was, an A7S III with a far more useful body, the FX3 was clearly the better choice.
You had me at "we do not care about the feelings of multi-national billion dollar corporations" 1:37. Well done Tony! Love your videos and look for yours over other TH-camrs often.
Hmmm... For me the R6 is the perfect TH-cam camera. In Germany it is about 1600€ cheaper and takes way better photos. But yeah, if you only need video, the Sony A7SIII is a good choice. For me personally, I just don't want to put up with their horrible usability. Also, I never had the R6 overheat on me yet.
I'm with you. I just wish the R6 to have at least 25% more mp is just really bad when cropping pictures, they fall apart very quickly. I want the eos r sensor in the r6.
@@ivankiefer3886 Yeah, sometimes 20MP might be the wrong choice! For astro, landscape or birding I personally would look somewhere else. But tbh 95% of my pictures and videos end up somewhere on social media anyway... I only crop to do veeery small adjustments, but yeah, there definately isn't much room for cropping. But 20MP is a lot better than 12MP :)
If you're going to use XLR in-camera audio, get the FX3, it's a no brainer. If you'd rather have a viewfinder, get the a7s3. There aren't too many differences. The FX3 has a built-in cage, which can be useful for attaching microphones, monitors. I'm not a professional at all, but this is what I've gathered from everyone else.
The dynamic range at S-log 3 and even at S-Cinetone is outstanding. It's amazing how much detail can be recovered from the highlights, even at S-Cinetone. The biggest con for me is the LCD - it's unusable in direct sunlight. Glad to have the EVF, but should not have to rely on that. One strange issue I ran into last week was that all of my photos from one day were taken in S-log 3 when in manual photo mode, which I didn't even think was possible outside of the video mode. I had the gamma assist on, so couldn't tell until after I dumped the files. Has this ever happened to you?
I'm very new with this camera so I'm not entirely sure about this. You can have different Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO, Exposure Comp., Metering Mode, White Balance, Picture Profile, Focus Mode settings between stills and movie through the Toolbox > Different Set for Still/Mv menu option. Maybe that will prevent this from happening?
Some good points were brought up in the video. However, I keep wondering why you still publish youtube videos in 1080p which even for 1080p don't look all that detailed. Why don't you also use the Sony A7S iii for your youtube videos or do you also use it here but apply such extreme compression? I also wonder whether Tony decided to actually buy 2 or 3 of these Sony FX3 which he mentioned in one of his last videos for his youtube setup. I can see why they would just fit nicely into his setup and the reasoning behind it. It seems like Sony has some great features but Canon makes sure their features are more stable (focus transition is not jumpy but smooth, lense aperture decrements in 7 instead of 3 steps on sony, no random jumps to other targets or losing the subject, automatic exposure, white balance in situations with different light sources ...).
High five on no recording limits. It's a deal breaker and why I used video cameras since the beginning. Flip., Zi8, VIXIA, and now iPhone. Osmo Pocket when needed. Though the pocket can overheat and shut down. None of the others ever have that happen unless I was in direct sunlight (iPhone). I don't know how many DSLR/Mirrorless have unlimited now, but it seems like the vast majority of them still have that antiquated limit.
Hi Tony, at 12:21 into vid you talk about stability while adjusting “things”!...what if you could control all those functions through an iPhone connection to the camera and also view what the camera sees with iPhone. I think Olympus had this capability??? Once!
This is a review for a million subs channel creators. Most people will NEVER shoot raw, etc. Good overview but not applicable to 99% of channels on TH-cam.
BTW Why the "TinyTony" (on the table) was out of fucus? :). 1. Why Sony isn't providing sensor shutter like Canon does? Any specific reasons?? 2. Is it relatively easy to clean sensor dust on Sony sensors??
As a youtuber i find the normal shakiness of the camera better, it looks more real..gimbal feel like overdone...I’m still super bad at using this camera lol too bright but i decided to learn how to use it and i will
$5100 plus tax here for an A7SIII. No thanks! TH-cam just butchers quality anyway. Better off with almost anything else that's $2000 cheaper and use the extra money for something else.
Auto exposure fix: use the AEL button = auto exposure lock. Problem solved. + read the hint on Sony help guide: "Hint If you assign the [AEL toggle] function to the AEL button using [Custom Key Setting] or [Custom Key Setting], you can lock the exposure without holding down the button."
@@mirrorlessny It is a matter of opinion. I am aware of what an EVF is. Some people use it for video too. Not every single person on the planet is the same. Some want the EVF. I prefer the FX3.
just in perfect time... I've received this camera over month ego but still didn't opened it but will do it right now... My 16-35 and 70-200m lenses just arrived last week. Anybody wants to buy my GH5s that I'm switching from?? :)
They really need to update the resolution of that flippy screen. It’s painfully bad. I can’t manually focus with it, but that EVF is great. If they could add false color as a display mode that would also be phenomenal. Raw internal recording would also be pretty sweet. And another thread on the bottom would be great, too, to really lock the plate to the camera.. All that being said, for filming people, that eye auto focus blows me away how good it is with these new Gm lenses. But you’re completely right about how bad the focus is for when there is no human face to track. The camera does have a surprising amount of noise after base ISO - before you hit that second gain ISO, but it’s still a step forward. Still behind canon, I agree with your assessment.
For your next video. The R3 will be a one-off with a single purpose, help professional photographers move to mirror less. It will focus on speed of workflow. So a new evf, gigabyte Ethernet. High speed wireless, and maybe the 20mp sensor. I think the future high resolution R will not have a battery grip. The R1 will be all of the above.
Quick question, that first slide you had a point of needing proxies. My R5's codec is awful (i think its h265 444). Truly. I have a 9900k and 2080ti with 64gb of ram and scrubbing is insanely bad. The RAW codec is much better in that regard. How is the sony's?
You will need proxies if you film in 10 bit 4:2:2 HEVC. Unfortunately only recent intel and M1(?) CPUs have support of 10 bit 4:2:2 video hardware decoding. GPUs are lack of this (or 4:2:0 or 4:4:4 possible). With 10 bit 4:2:0 even at 4 years old laptop with Nvidia gtx1060 GPU scrubbling of hevc is quite smooth. In DaVinci Resolve
I was considering it for its tracking ability - follow focus. But after listening to you I'll pass. Maybe buy a drone instead to record people in action ect. But you can't use a drone everywhere you like.
Good info. Thank you. I need help. It's difficult to search. Video playback of my drone footage shows the color or exposure or lighting is "clicking" every second. It's not choppy necessarily. More like every second colors or shadows pulse or change. Any help anyone?
Doesn’t anyone know how you can get the A7siii to show under -2.0 (EV) and not hurt start blinking when EV is -2.0 Meaning it shows -2.7 EV up to -3.0EV
Coming from a6300 as my first Sony Camera to the recent a7s3, (ya I still have and will keep both regardless of what a1 or upcoming Sony Mobile 1 III) here are my thoughts: definitely for TH-camr (hmm non-paid ones prosumer), A7sIII is amazing for what I use it for. Feel free to watch my channel where I recently recorded a Dance activity event against cloudy daylight backstage where I had to use 24-70GM and adjust exposure compensation dial (I consider that as CMOS photon sensing EV adj). I also have bookmarked the PP Sony page for Slog-3 and HLG but I have a weird reaction and not use any of those-sometimes I just want to have the most crappy or standard quality 720p just for upload speed sake where nobody cares about my videos but just for my own memory keeping. And ya for those moments both 4K and HD are overkill. But I still upload them once I get home using a 120Mbit / 60Mbit upload speed and wait. Honestly, 5G isn’t yet prevalent and Sony has not allowed directly stream from Camera to wireless stream via an choosable OBS video source interface (but y I know Mobile Edge is croppable )--now, suddenly all that a1 , a7s3 , a7c becomes irrelevant but ya a Firmware and software update is needed for a6300 it what I mean is a direct streaming interface without buying 5G phone such as Sony Mobile phone 1 III. Blah thanks for reading my comments. CHEERS TONY.
@@terriplays1726 kind of depends there are some great lenses from sigma and Tamron that are very good on the wallet even cheaper than an equivalent in fuji glass
@@jean-philippeperetti8463 I’m glad to see that. Viltrox is jumping in for the third party lenses. Hopefully this pressures Tamron to do the same given they make great lenses for Sony
@tony I feel like a lot of your af problems are more due to how complex the af system is on the a7siii. Definitely requires a LOT of playing around/experimentation
@@shang-hsienyang1284 I care about 4k as well, but Tony inists that viewers note the 60fps but don't care about anything higher than 1080p. Apart from the fact that his 1080p videos do not look very sharp (for their resolution), probably a result of heavy compression. Look at some cleaner 1080 footage on youtube (which is obviously compressed but not additionally I guess) from music bands and such and it looks so much more detailed.
@@mirrorlessny Tony uses 60p for pretty much everything. And it's especially good for sit down talk videos that aren't dramatized, as it's more realistic, more approachable and connected. 24p/30p hides more, and is good at artificially increasing the fiction and imagination being created in a video (which is why it's good for cinema). But for real world stuff, 60p is far better. I'd move to 120p if TH-cam/technology allowed it at this point, to get it entirely out of the range of perception and take down all the barriers and artifice between presenter and audience.
@@mirrorlessny I found a place in SF that said they'd rent it to me for three days at the price of one...now I'm getting queasy! Thank you and thank you to Tony and Chelsea for the many things I've learned here.
i always censor myself - i just wanna heckle you for whatever reason... but you really feel the r6 is better in low light? what about the r5? I have been really happy with my r5 all around, especially happy with low light performance, but I am shooting a feature-length comedy/horror using BMPCC4/6k + R5 and have a lot of exterior, wooded night shots, beach night, lake huron under sail night - i used the a7s2 and the low light was unbelievable when compared to the gear i hadat the time... but i am curious about low light performance - esp highlights and color rendering in faces... also, who cares about out of box, out of camera color? jiust on principle never
wish more buttons, wish mini xlr, and ya, so many cameras have poorly place mic line or phones line... one problem with r5 stabilization is SOMETIMES it jello in HD.
30! u lucky! WHO SAYS NO FAILURES! OMG - I like angelbird, best outcomes, but i have had things fail on TWO cards (twice I lost the same file on 2 cards) - recently its been way better, but I know, it's like, you never lose files???? admittedly, I lost way more files in 2016 and such when I was racing to the bottom for media... and I paid for it so many times over. Now I am just unwilling to subject myself to that anymore.
I am so disappointed with Sony cameras, especially A7R4 I love the technology and the 61 megapixels. Three months after the warranty expired the shutter stopped working. After reading some literature it was obvious that other customers.
@@lbeetech If you aren't making money, then you just started or you aren't entertaining enough. There is a lot of money to be made on youtube if your videos are at least somewhat entertaining. If you are just vlogging for fun and nobody cares to watch you, then yes... just use whatever you have. You are complaining that the best camera is too pricey for your budget... then don't buy the best camera. Common sense. The type of vlogging you seem to be referring to, most people are just using their phones. Others who have 50,000 subscribers or more can afford the a7S III.
@@StarshipGhost never once have been able to make money on TH-cam. You need popularity and subscribers for it so if you’re anywhere near a small channel, it’s near impossible to make anything
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People are making accusations that Sony pays Tony. I on the other hand still can't figure out why Sony doesn't pay Tony to fix their cameras and overcome many shortcomings which aren't limited by technology.
It's because Tony rhymes with Sony.
they will put this improves on another camera and sell it to you
Because most of his complaints are fabricated and he doesn't know how to use the camera...
@@cogmission1 His complaints about the a1 is legit though. I am experiencing the same experience with the 70-200 GM as well. Actually I would criticize the a1 more than Tony, and I am surprised few people talked about the HSS, EVF, and IBIS problems of the a1.
Hey Tony if you were filming in studio with the ninja V would you still choose the Sony A7s3 over the R6 (all things considered)?
I don't want to shock you but he uses the canon RP in the studio
LOL
he wants to keep to a minimal.
Things I would like improve:
1. To be able to select Rear Aperture Dial for ISO, without having the need for “My Dial 1”
2. Independent reverse for Front/Rear dial.
3.Indipendent Video/Photo mode EVF Sensor
(Example: auto switch between EVF and Screen, but once it starts recording, the camera stays Screen Only, it keeps sensing my gimbal arm)
4. Switching between movie and photo mode faster without having to hold and twist the dial
No3 is confusing. Sony has a default setting where if you tilt the screen a little bit (up or down, doesn't matter), the camera stays screen only. It's specifically designed for gimbal use.
@@jonphoto5078 Yes! I did that too :D , considering I didn't bump the control wheel. Way faster to change ISO.
@@Mockingmob I actually stumble upon this when I was playing with the flip out screen. Did not know it's a feature :o .
My 8yr old Canon 650D can do that right out of the box (point number 3)
It's just a little annoying for me that the screen have to be offset slightly left.
Good sum up after proper use. This is how review should be done, not "I have the camera for 24 hours, let me tell you how amazing it is!"
Really nice, Tony. The primary point for me is that you give a lot of advice useful to a wide range of users. Different camera users might make quite different choices, based on what you said. That puts your reviews on a higher plane than many others.
Holy Molly when you started spitting facts to those who are always like "real filmmakers never..." hahaha This video was amazing
I could not love the A7SIII more, but you really brought up some great points. Hope to see these features implemented in the future.
Like some folks said,THIS is a proper way to review,not with comparisons,not with cameras that are not out yet..good work...
The claim that the R5 has as good stabilization as the A7sIII on a motorized gimbal is misleading.
Sony A7S iii is not a vlogging camera. It is a professional video camera that costs 4000$ without any lenses. Lets be serious. And even if you can afford it its not the best vlogging camera. It does not have small size and it doesnt have the best image stabilization.
👍true, well said
how do you determine that youtube viewers prefer video at 60fps over 24fps or other frame rates?
huge portion of viewers use mobile devices for watching so 24fps can resemble stuttering or even make someone think there's poor cell service, depending on the shots of course - like panning, dynamic videos
Tony, will you be trying an FX3?
Thanks for the thorough review. 👍 (BTW, nice bokeh on the bobble head. 😄)
This is the type of gear review I always wanted and never knew I needed. Prefect subject matter; perfect host.
Tony/Chelsea, I need advice...what 3 lenses should I take to Egypt with an R5 out of RF: 800, 24-105, 15-35, adapted EF 200-400 1.4x, 85 1.2, 70-200 2.8 iii? Thanks. Anyone else is appreciated as well. Tourism photography
15-35, 24-105 and 200-400.
@@strider00111 Thanks! I do astrophotography as well but it’s full moon time. I know it’s a first world problem but it is what it is. Thank you!
Maybe I am being naïve, but I am hoping that Blackmagic make a TH-camr centric camera.
would be interesting to see, they definitely did a great job with bmpcc6kpro - it's an impressive apsc camera if stabilization & autofocus is not a priority
This video looks amazing. But that Sony camera is not cheap. Maybe a bit much for a beginner. Ok, if you can afford it then of course go for it. I started recently with a canon m50 shooting 1080p pumping out raw. I plan to eventually upgrade but no rush. I make really good looking video, not quite like this, but way acceptable. I have one of those dummy batteries that I plug into the biggest battery pack I could find(26800). When walking around, I have the battery in my back pack. At home I can plug that battery into the wall so it never runs out. That screen that goes to the side is a must have for me unless use an external screen or my phone. Isn't it fun? An idea is to record to the camera with a decent microphone and record to a good recorder separately just in case the mic pops out of the camera or some other issue. Redundancy is my favorite work. I recently got a mic preamp that accepts 2 mic inputs in any configuration with any type of plug. It's not expensive and the sound is crazy good.
I know a guy who always shoots with 2 m50s held on a custom holder so he always has 2 of everything and can use different lenses etc. I think that It's a great idea. What do you think of the Affinity Photo software. It does everything that photoshop does and you pay once. And it's available on iPad. A lot of photoshop users are switching because if how good it is and the price. Actually the full photoshop is also available on iPad now.
Perfect Vlogging camera, but then you list a ton of issues! Hahha. I agree that it's a perfect vlogging camera, but I guess this points out that no camera is perfect. There's always something tough to deal with! Even my R5 to me, has been the perfect vlogging camera. But that's my perspective. For someone else, they may hate it. But it's ok! Great video!
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I was not aware of a problem with the "tap to track focus" in Sony compared to Canon. I wished you had gone more in depth on that part...that kind of usability issues are important for most. More important compared to record limits and overheating. The Firmware wish-list is excellent. Sony should start working on that list today for the A7SIII and FX3 !!!
No full settings walkthrough? I always watch your vids where you go through all the settings and just got the Sony A7SIII
Saying it is the best "vlogging camera" is an insult to how good this camera really is. This is meant for so much more for filmmakers, I wish you had touched on that
I believe you are 100% honest when you say that you are on the consumer’s side and nobody else’s. The problem is, you are switching platforms too fast. (I am not talking about reviews) Canon to nikon, nikon to sony, sony to canon, panasonic to sony, Fuji somewhere between etc. No consumer does that, that fast, due to the cost. I know a lot of people that did purchase d810 or d850 or an xt4 watching your videos, a few years ago. Those people need to know what they can do with the one they own as much as what your current setup/newest tech is capable of.
Thanks for the nice overview, it is very thorough and helpful! 👍
please do reviews of the tamron apsc lenses for sony.... (like the 17-70 2.8, the new 11-20 2.8, the 150-500)
9 MONTHS ?? :D The gap between youtubers and "normal people" is crazy :D Haha :D I preordered my a7sIII and got it in december 2020 and some got it at the end of december. I get why this is but the disconnection is crazy ... other than that the a7siii is a dream of a camera. i also have a fx6 but maybe i will sell it because i really think the a7siii is just better
Fx3 would be the more obvious thing to mention instead of the A7SIII as being the better camera than the FX6. I can understand that. But the FX6 gives DCI4K, and variable ND and other video tools.
@@zagorcuk1966 ?
What iso looks the best for low light on a 2.8 f stop lens with no picture profile?
Considering almost everyone buying the A7S III are buying it for video, it makes me curious why they are choosing this model over the FX3. The camera internals are identical, but the body is so much better. For example, the lack of EVF makes it more useable on smaller gimbals, the cooling is important in hot environments, and the five quarter/twenty sockets are pure gold and makes the FX3 dramatically more flexible.
it makes sense for hybrid shooters who mostly do video but sometimes do photography
@@mirrorlessny Hybrid shooters tend to not buy low megapixel sensors. They go for the GH5 instead of the GH5S, and they go for the A7 series rather than the A7S series. Video is the only logical place for low resolution sensors. When we get to a point where 8K becomes normal, that is when I see hybrid shooters entering the picture for the A7S of that era.
@@artistjoh yea good points, while 12mp feels enough for most casual photo needs, it's definitely better to have more = 20/24mp for extra cropping room / printing large / event photography / wildlife
I think a substantial number of A7S3 owners bought their before they knew the FX3 was coming, and one takes a substantial loss in selling an A7S3 just to purchase the FX3.
@@KeithSklower Good point. I consider myself fortunate that I had to take time to save pennies for the A7S III, and that the FX3 came out while I was still saving up. For me, once seeing what the FX3 was, an A7S III with a far more useful body, the FX3 was clearly the better choice.
You had me at "we do not care about the feelings of multi-national billion dollar corporations" 1:37. Well done Tony! Love your videos and look for yours over other TH-camrs often.
Hmmm... For me the R6 is the perfect TH-cam camera. In Germany it is about 1600€ cheaper and takes way better photos. But yeah, if you only need video, the Sony A7SIII is a good choice. For me personally, I just don't want to put up with their horrible usability. Also, I never had the R6 overheat on me yet.
I'm with you. I just wish the R6 to have at least 25% more mp is just really bad when cropping pictures, they fall apart very quickly. I want the eos r sensor in the r6.
@@ivankiefer3886 Yeah, sometimes 20MP might be the wrong choice! For astro, landscape or birding I personally would look somewhere else. But tbh 95% of my pictures and videos end up somewhere on social media anyway... I only crop to do veeery small adjustments, but yeah, there definately isn't much room for cropping. But 20MP is a lot better than 12MP :)
Should I get the fx3 over the a7siii?
FX3 is definitely better for video work
@@mirrorlessny thanks. Another question. Which setup has better image quality? EOS R with Ninja V, or Fx3 without the ninja V?
@@ebenezer357 i'm not sure what eos r + ninja V is capable of but slog3 on fx3/a7s3 looks pretty good
If you're going to use XLR in-camera audio, get the FX3, it's a no brainer. If you'd rather have a viewfinder, get the a7s3. There aren't too many differences. The FX3 has a built-in cage, which can be useful for attaching microphones, monitors. I'm not a professional at all, but this is what I've gathered from everyone else.
The dynamic range at S-log 3 and even at S-Cinetone is outstanding. It's amazing how much detail can be recovered from the highlights, even at S-Cinetone. The biggest con for me is the LCD - it's unusable in direct sunlight. Glad to have the EVF, but should not have to rely on that. One strange issue I ran into last week was that all of my photos from one day were taken in S-log 3 when in manual photo mode, which I didn't even think was possible outside of the video mode. I had the gamma assist on, so couldn't tell until after I dumped the files. Has this ever happened to you?
I'm very new with this camera so I'm not entirely sure about this. You can have different Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO, Exposure Comp., Metering Mode, White Balance, Picture Profile, Focus Mode settings between stills and movie through the Toolbox > Different Set for Still/Mv menu option. Maybe that will prevent this from happening?
I never had to clean my a7riv sensor since I got it, but Im well equipped to handle it if it does. good camera practice trumps all.
same here with A7Siii since Sept 2020, just used blower couple of times, careful camera use 💪
Some good points were brought up in the video. However, I keep wondering why you still publish youtube videos in 1080p which even for 1080p don't look all that detailed. Why don't you also use the Sony A7S iii for your youtube videos or do you also use it here but apply such extreme compression?
I also wonder whether Tony decided to actually buy 2 or 3 of these Sony FX3 which he mentioned in one of his last videos for his youtube setup. I can see why they would just fit nicely into his setup and the reasoning behind it.
It seems like Sony has some great features but Canon makes sure their features are more stable (focus transition is not jumpy but smooth, lense aperture decrements in 7 instead of 3 steps on sony, no random jumps to other targets or losing the subject, automatic exposure, white balance in situations with different light sources ...).
High five on no recording limits. It's a deal breaker and why I used video cameras since the beginning. Flip., Zi8, VIXIA, and now iPhone. Osmo Pocket when needed. Though the pocket can overheat and shut down. None of the others ever have that happen unless I was in direct sunlight (iPhone). I don't know how many DSLR/Mirrorless have unlimited now, but it seems like the vast majority of them still have that antiquated limit.
Hi Tony, at 12:21 into vid you talk about stability while adjusting “things”!...what if you could control all those functions through an iPhone connection to the camera and also view what the camera sees with iPhone. I think Olympus had this capability??? Once!
This is a review for a million subs channel creators. Most people will NEVER shoot raw, etc. Good overview but not applicable to 99% of channels on TH-cam.
thumbs up for all your good work, I am so grateful for the help I get from Chelsea and you, greetings from Denmark
I think sensor dust is Sony feature. Joking aside just give people the option to close the shutter when changing lenses on all your cameras.
is sensor dust attraction on the same level as previous Sony models?
oh damn sad to hear that 6:13
If the R6 could at least backup 1080 it would be fine for me. Plus a quicker way to switch from video to photo is essential.
BTW Why the "TinyTony" (on the table) was out of fucus? :). 1. Why Sony isn't providing sensor shutter like Canon does? Any specific reasons?? 2. Is it relatively easy to clean sensor dust on Sony sensors??
I just bought it. It is awesome but very similar to a7s mk ii just doesn't suck as the later
Now the big question is will Sony watch this video and start improving what they can?
As a youtuber i find the normal shakiness of the camera better, it looks more real..gimbal feel like overdone...I’m still super bad at using this camera lol too bright but i decided to learn how to use it and i will
what is the lapel mic that you are using?
The only reason I have never considered a Sony camera is because everyone says how horrible their menus are..
not anymore = A7S3 FX3 A1 , the old menu is a pain yes
$5100 plus tax here for an A7SIII. No thanks! TH-cam just butchers quality anyway. Better off with almost anything else that's $2000 cheaper and use the extra money for something else.
People are loving the Product Showcase of the ZV1. Sony needs to add that feature into A7slll.
loved this video
Auto exposure fix: use the AEL button = auto exposure lock. Problem solved.
+ read the hint on Sony help guide:
"Hint
If you assign the [AEL toggle] function to the AEL button using [Custom Key Setting] or [Custom Key Setting], you can lock the exposure without holding down the button."
How do you edit your raw video?
what do you think Tony about FX3 comparing to A7siii???
It is the same thing in a different body without the viewfinder. He would probably rather have the viewfinder.
Doesn’t take video but includes the xlr mic input. Basically video only.
@@StarshipGhost yea need evf for photography, but if doing mostly video then fx3 is better
@@mirrorlessny It is a matter of opinion. I am aware of what an EVF is. Some people use it for video too. Not every single person on the planet is the same. Some want the EVF. I prefer the FX3.
@@StarshipGhost definitely a preference, I use evf for video on sunny days, screen just not bright enough
Tony, I use a plug-in Bluetooth transmitter so I can be wire free, much easier when filming birds and lugging gear around in the field...
good idea 👍
Forgot to add it plugs into the headphone jack to use with my Bluetooth headphones, no more getting caught in the cable lol
@@SimplyBirding yea that sounds very convenient :0) whats the brand/model?
@@mirrorlessny it’s called a Taotronics Bluetooth 5.0 transmitter and receiver with a 3.5 mm adapter... found it on Amazon.
@@SimplyBirding nice - good to have options, wonder if a7s3 can use it's bluetooth to transmit audio :/
just in perfect time... I've received this camera over month ego but still didn't opened it but will do it right now... My 16-35 and 70-200m lenses just arrived last week. Anybody wants to buy my GH5s that I'm switching from?? :)
Why didn't you open it?
What is the wireless mic system sitting on top of the a7siii?
shotgun mic is ECM-B1M
they just need to include Product AF of the ZV1 to A7S3
yeah, hope it can get into a7s3 & fx3 with firmware update
They really need to update the resolution of that flippy screen. It’s painfully bad. I can’t manually focus with it, but that EVF is great. If they could add false color as a display mode that would also be phenomenal. Raw internal recording would also be pretty sweet. And another thread on the bottom would be great, too, to really lock the plate to the camera.. All that being said, for filming people, that eye auto focus blows me away how good it is with these new Gm lenses. But you’re completely right about how bad the focus is for when there is no human face to track. The camera does have a surprising amount of noise after base ISO - before you hit that second gain ISO, but it’s still a step forward. Still behind canon, I agree with your assessment.
For your next video. The R3 will be a one-off with a single purpose, help professional photographers move to mirror less. It will focus on speed of workflow. So a new evf, gigabyte Ethernet. High speed wireless, and maybe the 20mp sensor. I think the future high resolution R will not have a battery grip. The R1 will be all of the above.
What about the Canon M50 Mark II?
Active SteadyShot mode? have you tried it? I've stopped using gimbals.
How about something simple like the Samsung Mini NX 17mm. Takes great video.
I really got a lot out of this review. It was very interesting to me. Thank so much Tony.
Is there something better now??
Does the A7S3 not have the cleaning mode option that the A7R4 has? Sensor dust can build up, but that shakes it off and it's perfect again.
From my experience the sensor cleaning from the sensor shaking doesn’t always work. Have to clean it with a swab.
Quick question, that first slide you had a point of needing proxies. My R5's codec is awful (i think its h265 444). Truly. I have a 9900k and 2080ti with 64gb of ram and scrubbing is insanely bad. The RAW codec is much better in that regard. How is the sony's?
You will need proxies if you film in 10 bit 4:2:2 HEVC.
Unfortunately only recent intel and M1(?) CPUs have support of 10 bit 4:2:2 video hardware decoding. GPUs are lack of this (or 4:2:0 or 4:4:4 possible). With 10 bit 4:2:0 even at 4 years old laptop with Nvidia gtx1060 GPU scrubbling of hevc is quite smooth. In DaVinci Resolve
This sounds more like an hardware accelaration problem on the computer side rather than a camera platform one.
@@irbis82 Apple’s M1 chips can edit 10 bit h265 422 smoothly. Inexpensive machines.
I was considering it for its tracking ability - follow focus. But after listening to you I'll pass. Maybe buy a drone instead to record people in action ect. But you can't use a drone everywhere you like.
07:03 True story!
This is especially true for national Azerbaijani weddings
Good info. Thank you. I need help. It's difficult to search. Video playback of my drone footage shows the color or exposure or lighting is "clicking" every second. It's not choppy necessarily. More like every second colors or shadows pulse or change. Any help anyone?
Video shot 4K at 60 fps, 100 ISO, 120 with ND16
Doesn’t anyone know how you can get the A7siii to show under -2.0 (EV) and not hurt start blinking when EV is -2.0
Meaning it shows -2.7 EV up to -3.0EV
Coming from a6300 as my first Sony Camera to the recent a7s3, (ya I still have and will keep both regardless of what a1 or upcoming Sony Mobile 1 III) here are my thoughts: definitely for TH-camr (hmm non-paid ones prosumer), A7sIII is amazing for what I use it for. Feel free to watch my channel where I recently recorded a Dance activity event against cloudy daylight backstage where I had to use 24-70GM and adjust exposure compensation dial (I consider that as CMOS photon sensing EV adj). I also have bookmarked the PP Sony page for Slog-3 and HLG but I have a weird reaction and not use any of those-sometimes I just want to have the most crappy or standard quality 720p just for upload speed sake where nobody cares about my videos but just for my own memory keeping. And ya for those moments both 4K and HD are overkill. But I still upload them once I get home using a 120Mbit / 60Mbit upload speed and wait. Honestly, 5G isn’t yet prevalent and Sony has not allowed directly stream from Camera to wireless stream via an choosable OBS video source interface (but y I know Mobile Edge is croppable )--now, suddenly all that a1 , a7s3 , a7c becomes irrelevant but ya a Firmware and software update is needed for a6300 it what I mean is a direct streaming interface without buying 5G phone such as Sony Mobile phone 1 III. Blah thanks for reading my comments. CHEERS TONY.
Long term six months lol
Which A7 iii has the shutter problems?
May be a problem with the link to the Sony a7S, its says "This site can't be reached"
Guys should I get the XT4 for video or save up and get this? Is it worth the extra $1300?
Whatever you do, don’t forget to price in the lenses. Much more expensive on full frame.
@@terriplays1726 kind of depends there are some great lenses from sigma and Tamron that are very good on the wallet even cheaper than an equivalent in fuji glass
Viltrox glass (very affordable) should be considered with an X-T4. I believe they are AF lenses.
@@ivankiefer3886 this is true
@@jean-philippeperetti8463 I’m glad to see that. Viltrox is jumping in for the third party lenses. Hopefully this pressures Tamron to do the same given they make great lenses for Sony
I got confused it is good or bad.
Yes
04:00 so he hates s log but he wants internal raw, wth?
Please could you give me a list of everything you have on that table. Including the headset, laptop. Everything.
Another grt video !
What about FX3?
Canon purists foaming at the mouth rn
Record to a Ninja V on a SSD drive, you will never need a backup and have a failure..
Very Simple solution.. :)
@tony I feel like a lot of your af problems are more due to how complex the af system is on the a7siii. Definitely requires a LOT of playing around/experimentation
Tony doesn't see his own affinity for complaining... He's just more comfortable disliking things (it seems)...
“Viewers appreciate the 60p” ?????? Can you please elaborate on this statement????
Once you get used to it, it’s just so much better 👌🏻
I enjoy 60p videos over the 24p. I cared about the 60p frame rate even more than 4K.
@@shang-hsienyang1284 I care about 4k as well, but Tony inists that viewers note the 60fps but don't care about anything higher than 1080p. Apart from the fact that his 1080p videos do not look very sharp (for their resolution), probably a result of heavy compression. Look at some cleaner 1080 footage on youtube (which is obviously compressed but not additionally I guess) from music bands and such and it looks so much more detailed.
@@WesPerry 60fps is definitely good for action/dynamic videos, not necessary for slow paced, wonder if Tony uses 30fps for this & sit down talk videos
@@mirrorlessny Tony uses 60p for pretty much everything. And it's especially good for sit down talk videos that aren't dramatized, as it's more realistic, more approachable and connected. 24p/30p hides more, and is good at artificially increasing the fiction and imagination being created in a video (which is why it's good for cinema). But for real world stuff, 60p is far better. I'd move to 120p if TH-cam/technology allowed it at this point, to get it entirely out of the range of perception and take down all the barriers and artifice between presenter and audience.
Next week I'm filming on the Sonoma Coast...and the M50 is about to have to be replaced, mmm....
A7siii will be a big upgrade, it feels reliable
@@mirrorlessny I found a place in SF that said they'd rent it to me for three days at the price of one...now I'm getting queasy! Thank you and thank you to Tony and Chelsea for the many things I've learned here.
For us poor people.... I just got a ZV-1. Fun camera so far
does it overheat?
@@DarkPa1adin I set it to high temperate when I got it. No problems so far. I’m sure in the summer time it might at 4K after a bit
Doesn't these cameras have premature shutter failures?
Yo man i am thinking of getting a 5d mk 2 would it be a good camera pls anwser
I mean if u don't care about autofocus, and are ok with the limitations of dslr video the yeah
IT Always depends on your needs. Describe your needs
@Photo Bunny (inhales) in our region the 5d mk 3 is twice the price
@@Alexanderboost i want to do mostly photography i wanted a full frame for the bokeh and all that i won't do vlog or anything and i won't to sports
@@supercuber9805 then you are probably fine with a 5d II. its really affordable and ef glass is great for stills
i always censor myself - i just wanna heckle you for whatever reason... but you really feel the r6 is better in low light? what about the r5? I have been really happy with my r5 all around, especially happy with low light performance, but I am shooting a feature-length comedy/horror using BMPCC4/6k + R5 and have a lot of exterior, wooded night shots, beach night, lake huron under sail night - i used the a7s2 and the low light was unbelievable when compared to the gear i hadat the time... but i am curious about low light performance - esp highlights and color rendering in faces... also, who cares about out of box, out of camera color? jiust on principle never
WHY DIDNT YOU JUSS GEDDA F3
wish more buttons, wish mini xlr, and ya, so many cameras have poorly place mic line or phones line... one problem with r5 stabilization is SOMETIMES it jello in HD.
30! u lucky! WHO SAYS NO FAILURES! OMG - I like angelbird, best outcomes, but i have had things fail on TWO cards (twice I lost the same file on 2 cards) - recently its been way better, but I know, it's like, you never lose files???? admittedly, I lost way more files in 2016 and such when I was racing to the bottom for media... and I paid for it so many times over. Now I am just unwilling to subject myself to that anymore.
it got relatable in the end.
A7C review?
I am so disappointed with Sony cameras, especially A7R4
I love the technology and the 61 megapixels.
Three months after the warranty expired the shutter stopped working. After reading some literature it was obvious that other customers.
Love this channel ❤️
Seems pricey for a YT vlog camera...
You make money on TH-cam to pay for it.... if you dont just use your phone.
@@StarshipGhost Wrong! Most are not making that kind of money a lot of them get gear for free...
@@lbeetech If you aren't making money, then you just started or you aren't entertaining enough. There is a lot of money to be made on youtube if your videos are at least somewhat entertaining. If you are just vlogging for fun and nobody cares to watch you, then yes... just use whatever you have. You are complaining that the best camera is too pricey for your budget... then don't buy the best camera. Common sense. The type of vlogging you seem to be referring to, most people are just using their phones. Others who have 50,000 subscribers or more can afford the a7S III.
@@StarshipGhost Most with TH-cam channels don't buy anything, they are given products free to sell them to you... If you aren't aware of that...wow!
@@StarshipGhost never once have been able to make money on TH-cam. You need popularity and subscribers for it so if you’re anywhere near a small channel, it’s near impossible to make anything
9 months....LONG TERM hahahahahahahah
I mean it is a beast of a camera
yes yes yes and yes thanks for this
FW whishlist... Cover sensor?! It's already have it.
There is no perfect camera. Oh, there's one. It's Panasonic S1H. Ah, never mind. That camera doesn't AF.
I need. Help please 🙏 Help me
New Title: How to film on youtube with one the most expensive camera - Sony a7s3. Me think: My smartphone can do almost the same thing for free.