I was watching the video thinking what a good job you did in sort of a 'real world use' point of view. I also enjoyed your subtle humor injections which made the review entertaining as well. I came to comment and am blown away by all the haters roasting you. I'm impressed you didn't turn off comments, that shows maturity on your part. That said I will offer you one suggestion - not that you asked... Don't wear sunglasses when speaking to your audience. That said I appreciate your comments especially regarding the trans lag. I'm contemplating buying a used offering and am weighing between the V6 and the V8. I totally ruled out a manual until seeing your review and your live demonstration. As much as I'm a firm believer in the modern automatic trans, after seeing your review I'm thinking you are right about having better control instead of a useless 8 speed auto. Nice job thanks.
Thank you for your comment and feedback! Finally someone who gets what I’ve been trying to say in this video. I wasn’t trying to criticize all Camaros, just this V6 model. The Camaro is one of the most iconic cars of all time and this “rental car” model doesn’t truly embody it’s legacy. I would definitely recommend the manual trans. Even though there have been rapid advancements in automatic transmission technology making them faster and stronger, I was throughly unimpressed by this one. The manual is also so much more engaging, I personally own two manual transmission cars and I have no regrets buying them...except for when I’m stuck in traffic. Used V8 Camaros are pretty easy to find so I would go with that option if you are seriously considering purchasing one. Good luck in your search and thank you so much for watching and commenting!
well I own one and I can personally tell you that he is wrong about the trans lag he doesn't know how to drive the car, the car has a performance shift mode that allows you to downshift in automatic mode without using the paddle shifters it is much more effective the automatic versions are faster then the manuals by 0.2 seconds but still faster. to activate the performance shift mode you have to press the throttle completely and let go of it about 75% of the way then you can repress it as hard as you want and the car will take off I can promise you that I do it everytime I drive my camaro
CarVisionLA the issue I had with the video was how vague your criticisms was and how easy it was to tell you didn’t know what you were talking about. Yeah, the paddle shifters are slow compared to a 60,000 car, what a surprise. And yeah, you actually have to have revs for the car to produce power, like in every other car. Also, this new Camaro, even the v6, has been praised for its incredible handling by experienced reviewers, some thing you said was garbage in this car. Also, it probably denied your shifts cuz you tried to go into first gear at 60 mph or something stupid like that, since you don’t know how to use a car
I had a 2017 Camaro RS with the 3.6L v6 for 2 and a half years. Not only was it a completely perfect daily driver but it has been on several multi hundred mile road trips with no issues whatsoever and I even lived in the city for some of my ownership. The price/performance ratio is undeniably the best on the market. No steering problems, blind spots weren’t an issue if you knew how to use mirrors and look over your shoulder, enough luggage space etc. btw, the seats in the back aren’t supposed to be practical, they’re so this car can be listed as a 4 seater coupe so insurance isn’t out the ass compared to a 2 seater like the corvette. What I’m trying to say is that this is a phenomenal car and the reason why I’m picking up my manual LT1 RS this week. People, if you have been on the fence about buying this car, let me give you two words of advise. Buy it.
I don't own a V6 Camaro but what the fuck is this lol? The car runs 0-60 in 5.0-5.3 which is the exact same numbers as the 2010 Mustang GT's. The standard verison with performance exhaust is phenomenal, the price per performance off the lot is better than the ecoboost, better than the FRS/BRZ, better than both versions of the mustangs (ecoboost, v6) The car runs respectable times and is upwards to 10,000-15,000$ more cheaper with the same package options compared to the SS, lower insurance rates, and better on gas. The car will throw you into the back of the seat if you pin it, it's faster then every single V8 options circa 2010 and below on most cars. Give the car some respect man. The SS is better, it will blow this car out of the water, but for price to performance ratio and for overall fun it's a fine choice.
@@DiegogomezGTO what's annoying is morons like you who level criticism with no argument to back it up. Sign of an empty headed fool who likes to run his 👄 Talk to the ✋
I own a 2015 RS Camaro. Any coupe is going to have blind spots. If you know how to correctly set and use your mirrors those blind spots are taken care of.
You obviously don't know what your talking about. You are they only one with a "bad" review. You didn't mean to make a real video, you just wanted to hate on the camero
He made the video just to hate on the Camaro, for the views and the lulz. He obviously drives a Civic SI with a riceburn exhaust you can hear 100 miles away and considers that "fast."
I have the same car with a 6 speed manual, you need to learn how to drive, with 3.6 you will not have low end torque, did you not test drive the car before purchasing it. I have 5700 miles of nothing but fun, love mine great value.
I did not purchase the car. It was given to me for a few days to review. I requested the 6 speed but they only had the automatic. I'm sure the manual drives much better than the auto.
Sorry dude. I have a 6 with a 6 bought it used for half the base price, use it daily, no issues yet, and get 30.5 mpg on average. It's not for everyone.
@@mikasafigueroa3926 The entire reason to get this or a V6 Mustang used is because it has more power and no turbo lag when you are using a manual transmission. The GM automatic is a typical sluggish box of rubber bands. 6 Speeds with a shorter rear end and limited slip diff? Now you're talking. Go test a V6 with manual and be amazed at how much the automatic is ruining the whole thing.
Bought one of these, same year and same motor with a 6 speed manual. Absolutely love the car! Yes I have cloth seats and nope, no back problems, steering isn’t lose like he claims and def gets up and goes on the dot. He must’ve bought a ford in disguise
I cannot reiterate the fact that this is NOT my car. It was loaned to me to review. Good choice on that 6-Speed manual though. Probably drives much better than the auto. My ‘17 VW GTI is a 6-Speed Manual and I would take that any day over the DSG.
I was very shocked when i first ever drove a camaro. Im a mopar guy so let me break down my experience. I couldnt see crap. It was pretty tight but was ok in terms of front leg room. Compared to the charger and challenger, it was a pretty small car that you have to bend down some to fit in. What really suprised me tho was i was testing the v6 and it pulled lile the rt 345 hemis of the chargers and challengers - while doing it with 2 less cylinders and with better fuel economy. Thats what really suprised me about the car that i wasn't ready for. Not to mention the stout styling of the newer camaros. They just look like a car for speed, aerodynamics, and just to dominate. I have heard problems with gm cars when it comes to paint being very thin and weak, the transmissions breaking, and the impracticality of the camaro as a daily in terms of space, visability, etc. But im not gonna lie. As ugly as the 2020 front end of the camaro is, in black with the daytime running lights on, it just looks so aggressive and angry like venom. The camaro is definitely on my list
No one will read this, but I am posting anyway. I appreciate your honesty and point of view. I will agree with I think your biggest point, the 8 speed auto is NOT the way to go. The car doesn't even get a chance until you get a manual. But when you have that manual, you end up shifting at 7,000 RPM instead of 6,800 or wherever it is with the auto. Doesn't sound like a big difference, until you hear it. I have daily driven my 2017 V6 manual Camaro RS for nearly a year and a half now. Visibility is terrible, but I know exactly were all the cars are around me at all times. The V6 lacks low end torque (there is none), but it is thrilling, alive, and eager at the top end. Yes, 8 gears is too many, so get the 6 speed. I have driven a C8 stingray, 2015 Porsche Boxster, 2020 Mazda Miata, and more. My point with this is that the V6 camaro is just as thrilling on a back road. It is nimble where it should be, quick when you want it to be, and still outruns any similarly priced cars. Not to mention I outran the Boxster from a standstill. So yes, Chevy's $27k Camaro beats Porsche's $45k Boxster.
As young as you are having back issues I hope you get that looked at ..lol who paid you to hate on Camaro..you actually made me want to go buy 1 with all the hate🤔
Exactly. I was wondering how far I'd have to scroll through comments to come across your comment. All this time I thought the seat frame and the design was what made a difference on my comfort. I've driven many, many sports cars in my time and many were so uncomfortable that my back hurt if driving for a long time. I could've just gotten a real leather seat cover and saved my back from pain. The shit people post is absolutely unbelievable sometimes.
I have this car in white. It's awesome I get compliments all the time about the sound of it, all I did was delete mufflers and it sounds sick going 50+ n it's really fast
overall a pretty negative review on a great car. However I agree on one point and that is the poor throttle response tuning with the A8, which is what is responsible for the "lag" you noticed. There is a whole discussion around this problem, and for some the answer has been a pedal throttle booster unit that increases the voltage coming from the pedal. It pretty much solves the issue from the perspective of the pedal. And an aftermarket tune can fix a lot of the rest of it. The problem is, you're expecting too much. It's a base model V6 Camaro. It's made for people who want a fast, fun car for the street and don't want to spend a ton of money. The tuning is done with an eye towards fuel mileage, not performance. I agree, people who are into performance shouldn't have to deal with these issues, but thats reality. I had to buy an aftermarket "skip shift eliminator" for my SS 1LE. It's fairly routine to have to do aftermarket mods to unleash the true potential of any car, especially budget high volume sports cars. I think you just don't know very much about the car, or its community. The LGX is a bullet proof engine that loves to rev high and I did not see you really working this engine in the slightest. There are huge number of people out there having great fun in this car. I think the biggest problem is you got an A8 and, for someone who is a performance enthusiast, the A8 in a base car just isn't going to cut it. The manual mode shifts are extremely slow. However, what you don't know, is that in the SS's track mode, the A8 is absolutely awesome. I've tracked it and the shift points are spot on, it holds gears appropriately, up and down shifts precisely when necessary, and never bogs down ever. But to know that you'd have to drive an SS with track mode with the A8, which you did not. Anyway, most of your complaints are about the A8 and many of your points are valid. But I do think you're being a bit harsh. The A8 is better than you think it is. But the 10 speed is WAY better than the 8.
First of all. That’s the cheapest rs you can get . My camaro gets around quick and i have no problems with the visibility. The driving is butter . 2017 Chevy Camaro 2LT RS in Krypton Green
I own a 2017 RS, 5 speed stick shift. I love it, it goes fast as hell with lots of power. Only negative is the blind spots, however I learned to be extremely cautious when changing lanes or backing up over all satisfied. A couple other defects but not going to blast my camero. Its a bad azz car
I have a 2019 2.0 Turbo I4 2LT RS in crush orange. I've got a fully loaded Camaro with leather and a sun roof and several mods to make it even better and I'm not stopping at every gas station I pass and not buying 2 sets of tires every year either. It's got all the power I need. The problem with these young reviewers is they're all about the power and the ability to go 150mph all the time. Appreciate what you have, treat it right and you'll have it a long time. Chevy knows this but the young crowd can't grasp it. It comes with experience.
I’ve had a 2017 Camaro RS V6 manual and it’s been great. It drive accurate, has pretty quick acceleration and handles bumps pretty well for a sports car. It’s my daily driver in Ohio weather, handles great in the snow but of course get your tires right. The whole power BS is NONEXISTENT in a manual (drop a gear let it rip)
Im 6,3 280 pounds i have no issues with the seats im always comfortable driving it. Also my RS does 1/4 mile in 13.6 seconds at 107 mph. Bought my 2018 car in 2018 with 6000 miles for $20,000. Have no problem with paddles i dont like paddles i use the stick. Do agree with the performance modes cant tell difference from any of them. My cars transmission is awesome but it wasn’t at first took some miles to start working properly idk why. But it was lazy at first for sure now i put my foot down instantly shifts and goes. Stock tires suck went to 255/35 20 from the stock 245/50 20 what a difference.
335hp, 157mph top speed, mid 13s quarter mile, 3277 lbs, 8 or 10 speed automatic available, 4.9s-5.1s zero to 60mph. Sounds like a 3.0 F-Type. Matt Maran actually said that in his review, along with most professionals. It's a DOHC, high compression, four cam phasers.....it loves to rev out. It's on every top 10 fastest naturally aspirated V6 lists. Faster than an RT challenger. You know what else has these numbers? A 370z, and a gen 1 coyote mustang (have one). I fear that you missed the mark and that's ok. We live and learn. My wife drives the 2018 Camaro V6 and has a few extras like e85, 10 speed swap, and ya know.... forced induction by way of Edelbrock. You know what's fun? Having a 467 hp v6 camaro that makes the car community turn their heads sideways, not knowing why it sounds that way. It's fun blowing around a V8 sports car and just above all else, it's fun to have something different dude.
CarVision my family is the only reason I have to get an automatic. When I go to college my parents do not allow us to bring our cars for the first year. This is for us to know who our real friends are since people use you for rides and such. So when my car is at home for the first year my parents want to drive it and I quote my father "I'm to old for the work of a manual." I disagree with his opinion but he is the one buying it so I can not force him. Also even though my parents gave me a budget of 45k they refuse to let me get a v8. They say it is because of the high price of gas. They also only allow my siblings and I to get premium gas. I love them but they are far to traditional in their views. Yet I cant get mad since many people dont even get a car close to what they dream of.
Any car is going to take a second for the power to kick in after starting from a complete stop, that's why you either use launch control or brakeboost so the engine is already revving at a high enough rpm to get the tires moving quicker
5 second 0-60 says enough about the power delivery. My 7 year old V6 automatic is scrambling for traction when I take off smartly. I'd hate to see it without traction control.
I've owned a 18 3.6 for just about a year now. Some of what you're saying is true. But the parts that got me is when you "got into the back seat" yes, I do agree there is no foot room back there, but you shouldn't have struggled so much I am much bigger than you and I have an easier time. Also, the remarked you made about the Hoursepower from personal experience my v6 has been able to keep up with v8 chargers off the line. to abt 25-30 where we obviously fall off. "Only off the line not in a roll or anything else". When you said there was a delay in power you need to realize that it is a v6 and since your used to driving v8 it would feel very unresponsive "I also just hate at 4:06 when you say it doesn't handle like the ss or zl1 which proves your judging this car from a bias of a v8. the ss and zl1 trims are equipped with better suspension brakes and computer Sofware. Witch you seem to forget when reviewing this v6 version" Also points I do agree on is the rv camara it is indeed bad. But with regards to the "blind spots" there Arnt really any if you know how to drive a car and move your head you seem to cry abt having to move your head witch I find funny. oh, I haft to move my head how dare they but if you daily the car for abt a month Yll be able to see everything with no issue it seems you just like to be complaining for that one. also, I agree when you say the paddles suck, they do I hate everything abt them. I also don't like the 8 speed it's too much for a car that has a gov of 130. The seat do kind of suck at least the cloth ones. Final thought about your review you seem to have gone into that with the mindset of a v8 and a total hate for 3.6 Camaros I know most features on a 3.6 Camaros need improvement. But a review shouldn't have a bias it should be a catalog of the goods and bads of the car not the pros and cons to the v8 brother. Tbh I would hate anyone to watch this video and decide not to buy a Camaro, because it was a 8 min psa of you complain abt everything possible. please fill free to give your thoughts
This video is almost entirely a commentary on the auto transmission which could have been expressed in less than a minute including the throttle demos.
This is great example that not everyone should be making car reviews. 96% negative, and 100% has no idea what they are talking about. Leave reviews like this to the people who actually do them right.
I don't have a strong opinion on the Camaro (except to say that a car with blind spots like that is a straight-up menace to society). I just liked your review. I get so sick and tired of seeing car reviews that don't actually seem to give a damn about whether or not the vehicle is good, the reviewers just want to get as many page hits as possible. That applies all the way from Top Gear to a new TH-camr who just picked up an old BMW. Very few people seem to care if the cars are good. The only people who seem to be trying to actually review cars are Doug Demuro, The Fast Lane Truck, and... that's about it. You genuinely don't seem to understand all of the reasons the Camaro is the way that it is (it has an 8 speed for gas mileage, dude) but at least you're willing to take a strong position. More people could learn from that.
Nice seeing a video on the v6, and mostly well done but a couple of points: - 8 speed, why? because it is an auto and there are a lot of advantages of having 8 speed on an auto and of course once you try to shift it yourself, you will be left with an awkward sight with all 8 speeds available, that is given. Brace yourself, there is a 10 speed coming! - Shift denied: The engine denies shift in order to limit you screwing with the transmission and getting it out of use. It shouldn't let you donwshift to say 2nd or 1rst if the rpms are going to be out of the safe range! I have had experience with my previous 1ss denying shifts. - Suspension: Having owned a 5th gen to the 6th gen, it litterally saw it as day and night. I always take trips (long windy road trips) with my car and as much as I hate saying this, the 5th gen felt like a flipping boat, I could feel its limit when turning and had to back off very fast, the 6th gen (and that includes the v6) is a piece of history on that end, sharing the cadillac frame, the suspension is the best out of the 2 other competitors and some much higher priced cars (I have a couple of windy roads races that show that the limit the camaro can approch with that suspension is much higher than some bmws). - Now regarding the manual shifts, yes it is a mess and that is one of the reasons why I went for an actual manual car instead of trying to have a automatic car with paddles that shifts a sec or half a sec after you want it to do so: messes up with when you are actually trying to have some real fun unless you give yourself some time to get use to it. Anyhow I thought I would give my 2 cents. Cheers
Thanks for your input. Those were all valid points. I am a huge fan of the V8 Camaro like the 1ss and ZL1 1LE. The purpose of this review was to show that the V6 Camaro doesn't perform like a Camaro is supposed to. I understand what you were saying about the transmission but it was denying shifts even at lower speeds like when I was in 4th going 40 and wanted to downshift to 2nd to overtake someone. Maybe the 10 speed will be improved but I'd still stick to a manual.
no problem, I still do believe it is worth its price. Don't get me wrong, it is one thing to have a v8 but let us not compare apples and oranges, the v6 is plenty of car for its price and tech package that it offers compared to the competition I think. I also think that both trims share the same parts besides the engine unless you upgrade to the magnetic ride which changes the way the suspension behaves, ie: I am not sure what you mean by "the V6 Camaro doesn't perform like a Camaro is supposed to", would it be related to the power it gives or the ride quality or something else? Don't take it the wrong way, I don't have the v6 but the 1le 1ss so I am merely trying to understand your point as I haven't seen anyone yet anywhere else put the v6 out of the competition when it seems it should be a step up from the last generation.
You say consistantly it does not perform like a Camaro is supposed to.. it's the best handling fastest best featured V6 Camaro made to date... so your right it handles better then a Camaro is supposed to and has set a new standard for what NA V6 car in it's catagories can do.
You sound like a liberal! First off could you try to get in the back seat in any worse of a way. Second the cloth seats are great and have great adjustability. Visibility is overrated. Handling is great. The way you paddle shifted was wrong, seemed like you expected v8 power from a v6 engine. That was a horrible review, all you did was bash it. It may not be perfect but it's know where near as bad as you say it is. Erase your channel!
funny. Before I saw your comment, my first thought was "what a whiney conservative snowflake" (you know the type: angry and bitter, and complaining about everything and everyone under the sun). different strokes for different folks, I suppose.
No he sounds like a douchebag delusional right wing ball licking Trumper douchebag you know the ones who have no fucking clue what the hell is going on in the world and the ones always whining and complaining shut the fuk up you stupid trumptard you don't even know what a liberal is idiot 😂
Dude. You need a Bilstein Nordschliffe suspension and BMR end links. The power comes on up high. A six speed manual is the ONLY WAY to enjoy it, but it has clutch issues. I want to know about those issues.
Here’s a comment from the future. V8 6th gen are running about $40-50k while the v6 are from $24-$30k Monet plays a big factor until all but also selection within 100 miles from where I live no blue v8 could be found and I look at my car so color is important this has been my dream platform since the early 2010 and the four cylinders lack of power drive me to the v6 mind you I found one with all the upgrades except for a sun roof and let me tell you I’m smitten. The luxuries you get with the Camaro vs a non premium mustang or a stock v6 challenger is just amazing. I’m comparing these because they are similar in price for each respective platform. The mustang to me felt cheap and not well built while the challenger felt far too slow for the price it was demanding with nothing of quality to redeem it. So Camaro I went. I love it and will drive it till me or it dies (hopefully me first lol). Great review though from a sports perspective next time let’s get you a stock vs upgraded one
What woudl be good advice to give a 20 year old kid . I can make payments on a ‘16-‘19 SS but part of me wants to just get a LT or LS buy out cash and wait a couple years to get a ZL1
Cars like this aren't meant to have a lot of people in it! Two people or just you the driver enjoying yourself in a car that looks great, easy on gas and just fast enough not to kill yourself or somebody else. Stop complaining and drive!!
This video is really accurate in my opinion. Most people complaining are people who own this car . If you love this car, all power too you !! Personally, I don't see the hype about it.
Opinionated review. I own the '17 v6 with a 6 speed mt. I love it. GM wanted $10k more for a v8 alone and to me I'd rather invest that $10k for a '68 Camaro in ten years. Do some more research too, I was a car length behind an old Camaro 383 stroker up to 90 mph...hp to weight ratio the v6 is quite nimble.
I get where he's coming from while I do think he was very harsh I do think he made fair points. (Trust me I made my fair share of Jeep/Camaro and car videos that got a lot of hate.) Don't let people get you down, keep it up.
I'm not a hater like it or leave it I have a C7 3LT 2014 Corvette Crystal Red Metallic very nice car 460hp 6 speed automatic and I have the 2017 Camaro Convertable Anniversary model and they only made 1330 Convertable Anniversary's V8, V6, and only 60 2.0 Turbo and that is what I got 275hp its plenty fast it comes fully loaded even heated steering wheel I drove all three cars the V6 was in my opinion not much different than the 2.0 Turbo seriously in my case money is not a problem I wanted the 2.0 after driving them all I didn't buy it to race I bought it to cruise and get good millage so I'm not filling it up all the time as a driver its the best I love it as a matter of fact I like driving it as much as the Corvette the car gets the looks to the Night Fall Gray is full of Metallic and the accent colors just set the car off and with 50 all over it makes it very unique. If you want a race car buy the ZL1 or the ZR1 even the SS is very fast my Corvette will land you in jail and so will my Camaro because they will all go over 100mph and in most states you will lose your car and license if caught doing it. My opinion no matter what engine you get these new Camaros are off the hook just love is all I have for it, I will keep it in my collection for ever I will never sell it I have a Boss Hoss V8 Trike which is super fast with 425hp 3 speed turbo 350 automatic and weighs in at 1500lbs 0 to 60 in 3 seconds and the Camaro came with a life time power Tran warranty which some dealers are offering now it just doesn't get any better buy one you will love it but buy the 2lt the others are just not there like the one he's driving no way its a stripper get them loaded or stay home.
the .7 seconds faster for a v8 compared to the v6 isnt that great. cool your .7 seconds faster for 0-60 your soo fast and cooler . yeah cash out that extra 20k for .7 seconds. its called a business decision if you buy the V6. but people dont understand that they only see Materialistic views.
And your car is .7 seconds faster than a Honda Accord lol what’s your point? At least with the SS I can say that it’s faster than a 2009 Audi R8 and a 2004 Ferrari Spider 360.
You got a lot of hate for this. I have a v6 Camaro rental for a couple of weeks and felt the same way. Felt a lot slower and heavier than my alfa Romeo giulia which has a similar 0-60 and weight
you probably just hate the Camaro. and to get the most out of the torque you should of use the paddles to accelerate. this car is faster then the rt challenger. and the NPP exhaust sounds great
I have no reason to hate the Camaro. In fact, I love the Camaro. I’m a huge fan of the SS, ZL1 1LE, and the previous Z28. This video reflects my honest opinion of the base model variant. There are many potential upgrades for this vehicle and with the right options chosen, it is an excellent car.
The absolute most straight forward, most honest, no sugar-coating review I have ever seen!! 👍🏻 No non-sense empty bla bla bla talk. Good work man. Subscribed Camaro Fan boys are very upset because he was not praising the car, seriously! Get out of here & accept the facts 😂
this review goes in the face of the 6-7 other reviews from more legitimate sources i’ve watched. only reason i clicked was the title and thinking to myself “hmm I haven’t seen anyone have a bad experience, let’s see what he has to say”. what you had to say was complete garbage. feels like you watched kelly blue books video and said the extent opposite. also, they give this and every other car an 8 speed transmission for fuel economy. when you’re going 60 on the highway of course you aren’t gonna get a ton of torque slipping into 6th or 7th, or even 5th. that’s just one thing about your video that’s ludicrously inane. here’s my advice - don’t put up a video that you think is going to get views because it goes against the grain of what everyone else has to say UNLESS you have valid, informed criticism. otherwise it’s gonna tank your channel like this god awful video surely did. good luck bouncing back from this one, friend. woof.
Hi Lewis, I am not criticizing their use of an 8-speed automatic for gas mileage purposes. My actual criticism was the speed at which the transmission was downshifting. I totally understand that manufacturers need to take gas mileage into serious consideration, but if they are going to put an automatic in a sports coupe, they better make sure it downshifts quickly. In my test, I found its performance in this regard to be lackluster at best.
CarVisionLA but what is your expectation of a car that you can purchase for $15-25k with low mileage (or $30k brand new)? It’s barely a sports car, if you can call it that. It’s essentially stuck between a muscle/pony/sports car hybrid and doesn’t particularly excel in any category. I feel as though that is a valid criticism of this car. Newer models of the camaro have certainly pushed it further in the direction of a sports car, but this model still feels the growing pains of a shift in marketing/concept from the early 2010’s when this model was truly a piece of garbage
Normally I enjoy the cars I drive but this one had some serious flaws. It was poorly executed in my opinion and is not up to par with the impressive legacy its name carries. As an automotive journalist, I need to objectively evaluate each vehicle and this one did not impress me at at all.
Riiiiiggghhhtt, and meanwhile Motor Trend picked it as their Car of the Year. You sir, are a fucking moron. Don't worry, though -- no one will mistake you for an actual journalist. www.motortrend.com/news/2016-chevrolet-camaro-is-the-motor-trend-car-of-the-year/
I was watching the video thinking what a good job you did in sort of a 'real world use' point of view. I also enjoyed your subtle humor injections which made the review entertaining as well. I came to comment and am blown away by all the haters roasting you. I'm impressed you didn't turn off comments, that shows maturity on your part. That said I will offer you one suggestion - not that you asked... Don't wear sunglasses when speaking to your audience. That said I appreciate your comments especially regarding the trans lag. I'm contemplating buying a used offering and am weighing between the V6 and the V8. I totally ruled out a manual until seeing your review and your live demonstration. As much as I'm a firm believer in the modern automatic trans, after seeing your review I'm thinking you are right about having better control instead of a useless 8 speed auto. Nice job thanks.
Thank you for your comment and feedback! Finally someone who gets what I’ve been trying to say in this video. I wasn’t trying to criticize all Camaros, just this V6 model. The Camaro is one of the most iconic cars of all time and this “rental car” model doesn’t truly embody it’s legacy. I would definitely recommend the manual trans. Even though there have been rapid advancements in automatic transmission technology making them faster and stronger, I was throughly unimpressed by this one. The manual is also so much more engaging, I personally own two manual transmission cars and I have no regrets buying them...except for when I’m stuck in traffic. Used V8 Camaros are pretty easy to find so I would go with that option if you are seriously considering purchasing one. Good luck in your search and thank you so much for watching and commenting!
CarVision just lol its hard to take you seriously.
well I own one and I can personally tell you that he is wrong about the trans lag he doesn't know how to drive the car, the car has a performance shift mode that allows you to downshift in automatic mode without using the paddle shifters it is much more effective the automatic versions are faster then the manuals by 0.2 seconds but still faster. to activate the performance shift mode you have to press the throttle completely and let go of it about 75% of the way then you can repress it as hard as you want and the car will take off I can promise you that I do it everytime I drive my camaro
CarVisionLA the issue I had with the video was how vague your criticisms was and how easy it was to tell you didn’t know what you were talking about. Yeah, the paddle shifters are slow compared to a 60,000 car, what a surprise. And yeah, you actually have to have revs for the car to produce power, like in every other car. Also, this new Camaro, even the v6, has been praised for its incredible handling by experienced reviewers, some thing you said was garbage in this car. Also, it probably denied your shifts cuz you tried to go into first gear at 60 mph or something stupid like that, since you don’t know how to use a car
I had a 2017 Camaro RS with the 3.6L v6 for 2 and a half years. Not only was it a completely perfect daily driver but it has been on several multi hundred mile road trips with no issues whatsoever and I even lived in the city for some of my ownership. The price/performance ratio is undeniably the best on the market. No steering problems, blind spots weren’t an issue if you knew how to use mirrors and look over your shoulder, enough luggage space etc. btw, the seats in the back aren’t supposed to be practical, they’re so this car can be listed as a 4 seater coupe so insurance isn’t out the ass compared to a 2 seater like the corvette.
What I’m trying to say is that this is a phenomenal car and the reason why I’m picking up my manual LT1 RS this week. People, if you have been on the fence about buying this car, let me give you two words of advise. Buy it.
you should make this your last upload.
You should make this your last comment since you can't justify your criticism. So impressed at the intellectual giant you are.
@@jayk5485 239 likes says otherwise.
sneef 291 now
Dave clearly owns a V6
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I don't own a V6 Camaro but what the fuck is this lol? The car runs 0-60 in 5.0-5.3 which is the exact same numbers as the 2010 Mustang GT's. The standard verison with performance exhaust is phenomenal, the price per performance off the lot is better than the ecoboost, better than the FRS/BRZ, better than both versions of the mustangs (ecoboost, v6) The car runs respectable times and is upwards to 10,000-15,000$ more cheaper with the same package options compared to the SS, lower insurance rates, and better on gas. The car will throw you into the back of the seat if you pin it, it's faster then every single V8 options circa 2010 and below on most cars.
Give the car some respect man. The SS is better, it will blow this car out of the water, but for price to performance ratio and for overall fun it's a fine choice.
I enjoy your review better
All "muscles" cars made after 2010 would run a faster 0-60 than a 2010 mustang gt. My 2012 v6 mustang destroyed chargers and gt's 2010 and under stock
0 to 60 means nothing overall unless you only drive to 60 on a car like this
@Joshua Zamora imo top speed means nothing. Most people don't track their cars. So 0 to 60 is where the fun is for daily driving.
@DM Master Designs 😂😂😂 Exactly
Complaining about back seats in a sports car is dumb. Put it in sport mode wait for sport shift to turn on.
Yes!!! 🙌
This is horrible review lol you obviously don’t know much about cars good try tho 👍🏾
Fr he gets annoying sometimes
@@DiegogomezGTO what's annoying is morons like you who level criticism with no argument to back it up. Sign of an empty headed fool who likes to run his 👄 Talk to the ✋
I own a 2015 RS Camaro. Any coupe is going to have blind spots. If you know how to correctly set and use your mirrors those blind spots are taken care of.
Me too fam, I love that car to death and it pulled on a Tesla and even a SRT Charger
You obviously don't know what your talking about. You are they only one with a "bad" review. You didn't mean to make a real video, you just wanted to hate on the camero
He made the video just to hate on the Camaro, for the views and the lulz. He obviously drives a Civic SI with a riceburn exhaust you can hear 100 miles away and considers that "fast."
I have the same car with a 6 speed manual, you need to learn how to drive, with 3.6 you will not have low end torque, did you not test drive the car before purchasing it.
I have 5700 miles of nothing but fun, love mine great value.
I did not purchase the car. It was given to me for a few days to review. I requested the 6 speed but they only had the automatic. I'm sure the manual drives much better than the auto.
He compared the wind up for a v6 to turbo lag lmao. The whole point of the 3.6 is that it's high-strung. Low revs are for saving gas RIP
Sorry dude. I have a 6 with a 6 bought it used for half the base price, use it daily, no issues yet, and get 30.5 mpg on average. It's not for everyone.
@@mikasafigueroa3926 The entire reason to get this or a V6 Mustang used is because it has more power and no turbo lag when you are using a manual transmission. The GM automatic is a typical sluggish box of rubber bands. 6 Speeds with a shorter rear end and limited slip diff? Now you're talking. Go test a V6 with manual and be amazed at how much the automatic is ruining the whole thing.
The car stopped you from blowing it up, and you complain. Get a Prius or something.
You couldn't possibly be more wrong. I just bought one and loved it. Extremely drivable car.
I think your sunglasses are really waste of money ... take them off to see Such a car 😀
Bought one of these, same year and same motor with a 6 speed manual. Absolutely love the car! Yes I have cloth seats and nope, no back problems, steering isn’t lose like he claims and def gets up and goes on the dot. He must’ve bought a ford in disguise
I cannot reiterate the fact that this is NOT my car. It was loaned to me to review. Good choice on that 6-Speed manual though. Probably drives much better than the auto. My ‘17 VW GTI is a 6-Speed Manual and I would take that any day over the DSG.
Man you gettin roasted out here for this review LMAO
How dare he disagree.
And rightfully so! 😂
bs review
7-8 gear are overdtive gears for cruising on the highway just because you dont understand that u bad mouth the car
I have this car, YELLOW and everything plus it’s AWESOME, after seeing this imma do my own review SMH!
I hope you did! I have this car too, in hyper blue
I was very shocked when i first ever drove a camaro. Im a mopar guy so let me break down my experience. I couldnt see crap. It was pretty tight but was ok in terms of front leg room. Compared to the charger and challenger, it was a pretty small car that you have to bend down some to fit in. What really suprised me tho was i was testing the v6 and it pulled lile the rt 345 hemis of the chargers and challengers - while doing it with 2 less cylinders and with better fuel economy. Thats what really suprised me about the car that i wasn't ready for. Not to mention the stout styling of the newer camaros. They just look like a car for speed, aerodynamics, and just to dominate. I have heard problems with gm cars when it comes to paint being very thin and weak, the transmissions breaking, and the impracticality of the camaro as a daily in terms of space, visability, etc. But im not gonna lie. As ugly as the 2020 front end of the camaro is, in black with the daytime running lights on, it just looks so aggressive and angry like venom. The camaro is definitely on my list
That V6 is no joke, I'm looking at V6 1LE's.
@Harry Poter How is the 2.0t?
@@DigitalSubset slow. But fun and even better mgp
Budget friendly, club price, discounted Doug DeMuro
chrisfishbob 😂
This is just your opinion I get that but there are many flaws in this "review". Your completely missing the point of this car.
I would take it over any German P.O.S. any day and I own a Mercedes.
You need to floor the car to get into performance shift.. And yeah idk about you but i hit 100 real quick on it
No one will read this, but I am posting anyway. I appreciate your honesty and point of view. I will agree with I think your biggest point, the 8 speed auto is NOT the way to go. The car doesn't even get a chance until you get a manual. But when you have that manual, you end up shifting at 7,000 RPM instead of 6,800 or wherever it is with the auto. Doesn't sound like a big difference, until you hear it. I have daily driven my 2017 V6 manual Camaro RS for nearly a year and a half now. Visibility is terrible, but I know exactly were all the cars are around me at all times. The V6 lacks low end torque (there is none), but it is thrilling, alive, and eager at the top end. Yes, 8 gears is too many, so get the 6 speed. I have driven a C8 stingray, 2015 Porsche Boxster, 2020 Mazda Miata, and more. My point with this is that the V6 camaro is just as thrilling on a back road. It is nimble where it should be, quick when you want it to be, and still outruns any similarly priced cars. Not to mention I outran the Boxster from a standstill. So yes, Chevy's $27k Camaro beats Porsche's $45k Boxster.
How does leather seats help with the adjustment of your back
alfa8fake2 right lol
As young as you are having back issues I hope you get that looked at ..lol who paid you to hate on Camaro..you actually made me want to go buy 1 with all the hate🤔
Exactly. I was wondering how far I'd have to scroll through comments to come across your comment. All this time I thought the seat frame and the design was what made a difference on my comfort. I've driven many, many sports cars in my time and many were so uncomfortable that my back hurt if driving for a long time. I could've just gotten a real leather seat cover and saved my back from pain. The shit people post is absolutely unbelievable sometimes.
I have this car in white. It's awesome I get compliments all the time about the sound of it, all I did was delete mufflers and it sounds sick going 50+ n it's really fast
overall a pretty negative review on a great car. However I agree on one point and that is the poor throttle response tuning with the A8, which is what is responsible for the "lag" you noticed. There is a whole discussion around this problem, and for some the answer has been a pedal throttle booster unit that increases the voltage coming from the pedal. It pretty much solves the issue from the perspective of the pedal. And an aftermarket tune can fix a lot of the rest of it.
The problem is, you're expecting too much. It's a base model V6 Camaro. It's made for people who want a fast, fun car for the street and don't want to spend a ton of money. The tuning is done with an eye towards fuel mileage, not performance.
I agree, people who are into performance shouldn't have to deal with these issues, but thats reality.
I had to buy an aftermarket "skip shift eliminator" for my SS 1LE.
It's fairly routine to have to do aftermarket mods to unleash the true potential of any car, especially budget high volume sports cars. I think you just don't know very much about the car, or its community.
The LGX is a bullet proof engine that loves to rev high and I did not see you really working this engine in the slightest. There are huge number of people out there having great fun in this car. I think the biggest problem is you got an A8 and, for someone who is a performance enthusiast, the A8 in a base car just isn't going to cut it. The manual mode shifts are extremely slow.
However, what you don't know, is that in the SS's track mode, the A8 is absolutely awesome. I've tracked it and the shift points are spot on, it holds gears appropriately, up and down shifts precisely when necessary, and never bogs down ever. But to know that you'd have to drive an SS with track mode with the A8, which you did not.
Anyway, most of your complaints are about the A8 and many of your points are valid. But I do think you're being a bit harsh. The A8 is better than you think it is. But the 10 speed is WAY better than the 8.
i demoed the 10 spd with the v6 and the delay is still there, at least at highway speeds...
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The leather seats have the same cushions as the cloth seats, the only difference is the material.
bruh i got my 2018 rs camaro all blacked out everything, and i enjoy every minute of it🔥 the car is phenomenal
Do you have a picture of your car?
Why would you complain about the backseats if you didn't have those the insurance would be so high
I agree, it is not a sports car with 4 seats. It's the old insurance trick and a good one. I prefer the insurance on a coup than a sports car.
First of all. That’s the cheapest rs you can get . My camaro gets around quick and i have no problems with the visibility. The driving is butter .
2017 Chevy Camaro 2LT RS in Krypton Green
I have a 2017 V6 with the 1LE package in manual with Recaro bucket seats. Drives like a dream and the quad exhaust is amazing!
You should go buy a Mustang. I love my Camaro
Buddy, why don't you post something your passionate about. Stop acting like "Mr. Cool".
You have no idea what are you talking about mr. landscaper
Galin Trampov because being racist makes you better than him, smh
@@ghostex200 SJW alert.
Tramp - key phrase in your name honey. Crawl back into your bigot hole and stop infecting us with your filth.
You make this video & you have the nerve to say the car sucks.
I own a 2017 RS, 5 speed stick shift. I love it, it goes fast as hell with lots of power. Only negative is the blind spots, however I learned to be extremely cautious when changing lanes or backing up over all satisfied. A couple other defects but not going to blast my camero. Its a bad azz car
I have a 2019 2.0 Turbo I4 2LT RS in crush orange. I've got a fully loaded Camaro with leather and a sun roof and several mods to make it even better and I'm not stopping at every gas station I pass and not buying 2 sets of tires every year either. It's got all the power I need. The problem with these young reviewers is they're all about the power and the ability to go 150mph all the time. Appreciate what you have, treat it right and you'll have it a long time. Chevy knows this but the young crowd can't grasp it. It comes with experience.
I’ve had a 2017 Camaro RS V6 manual and it’s been great. It drive accurate, has pretty quick acceleration and handles bumps pretty well for a sports car. It’s my daily driver in Ohio weather, handles great in the snow but of course get your tires right. The whole power BS is NONEXISTENT in a manual (drop a gear let it rip)
Funny my 2017 has none of those issues that you stated
Im 6,3 280 pounds i have no issues with the seats im always comfortable driving it. Also my RS does 1/4 mile in 13.6 seconds at 107 mph. Bought my 2018 car in 2018 with 6000 miles for $20,000. Have no problem with paddles i dont like paddles i use the stick. Do agree with the performance modes cant tell difference from any of them. My cars transmission is awesome but it wasn’t at first took some miles to start working properly idk why. But it was lazy at first for sure now i put my foot down instantly shifts and goes. Stock tires suck went to 255/35 20 from the stock 245/50 20 what a difference.
335hp, 157mph top speed, mid 13s quarter mile, 3277 lbs, 8 or 10 speed automatic available, 4.9s-5.1s zero to 60mph. Sounds like a 3.0 F-Type. Matt Maran actually said that in his review, along with most professionals. It's a DOHC, high compression, four cam phasers.....it loves to rev out. It's on every top 10 fastest naturally aspirated V6 lists. Faster than an RT challenger. You know what else has these numbers? A 370z, and a gen 1 coyote mustang (have one).
I fear that you missed the mark and that's ok. We live and learn. My wife drives the 2018 Camaro V6 and has a few extras like e85, 10 speed swap, and ya know.... forced induction by way of Edelbrock. You know what's fun? Having a 467 hp v6 camaro that makes the car community turn their heads sideways, not knowing why it sounds that way. It's fun blowing around a V8 sports car and just above all else, it's fun to have something different dude.
My V6 Camaro is manual. Very fun to drive. If you get the chance, give it a try.
I'm sure it is much better than the auto
CarVision my family is the only reason I have to get an automatic. When I go to college my parents do not allow us to bring our cars for the first year. This is for us to know who our real friends are since people use you for rides and such. So when my car is at home for the first year my parents want to drive it and I quote my father "I'm to old for the work of a manual." I disagree with his opinion but he is the one buying it so I can not force him. Also even though my parents gave me a budget of 45k they refuse to let me get a v8. They say it is because of the high price of gas. They also only allow my siblings and I to get premium gas. I love them but they are far to traditional in their views. Yet I cant get mad since many people dont even get a car close to what they dream of.
is that a rental car cause there is a no smoking sticker the window XD
Shyam Sundar Rajasekaran it is hahaha i worker for hertz before and they use those .
Any car is going to take a second for the power to kick in after starting from a complete stop, that's why you either use launch control or brakeboost so the engine is already revving at a high enough rpm to get the tires moving quicker
5 second 0-60 says enough about the power delivery. My 7 year old V6 automatic is scrambling for traction when I take off smartly. I'd hate to see it without traction control.
I've owned a 18 3.6 for just about a year now. Some of what you're saying is true. But the parts that got me is when you "got into the back seat" yes, I do agree there is no foot room back there, but you shouldn't have struggled so much I am much bigger than you and I have an easier time. Also, the remarked you made about the Hoursepower from personal experience my v6 has been able to keep up with v8 chargers off the line. to abt 25-30 where we obviously fall off. "Only off the line not in a roll or anything else". When you said there was a delay in power you need to realize that it is a v6 and since your used to driving v8 it would feel very unresponsive "I also just hate at 4:06 when you say it doesn't handle like the ss or zl1 which proves your judging this car from a bias of a v8. the ss and zl1 trims are equipped with better suspension brakes and computer Sofware. Witch you seem to forget when reviewing this v6 version" Also points I do agree on is the rv camara it is indeed bad. But with regards to the "blind spots" there Arnt really any if you know how to drive a car and move your head you seem to cry abt having to move your head witch I find funny. oh, I haft to move my head how dare they but if you daily the car for abt a month Yll be able to see everything with no issue it seems you just like to be complaining for that one. also, I agree when you say the paddles suck, they do I hate everything abt them. I also don't like the 8 speed it's too much for a car that has a gov of 130. The seat do kind of suck at least the cloth ones.
Final thought about your review you seem to have gone into that with the mindset of a v8 and a total hate for 3.6 Camaros I know most features on a 3.6 Camaros need improvement. But a review shouldn't have a bias it should be a catalog of the goods and bads of the car not the pros and cons to the v8 brother. Tbh I would hate anyone to watch this video and decide not to buy a Camaro, because it was a 8 min psa of you complain abt everything possible.
please fill free to give your thoughts
Try installing a throttle controller. It will give your car a lot more torque off the market.
It wasn’t my car. It was loaned to me for a review.
I disagree I own the same one but in white & no complaints 👌
This video is almost entirely a commentary on the auto transmission which could have been expressed in less than a minute including the throttle demos.
This is great example that not everyone should be making car reviews. 96% negative, and 100% has no idea what they are talking about. Leave reviews like this to the people who actually do them right.
I’d love to hear specific reasons as to why you came to this conclusion. Seems as if you are forming your opinion based on what others believe.
Yes!!
Just so you know the throttle lag is a problem in most modern cars due to electronic throttles it can be tuned out or you get a pedal commander
my 2lt manual has tons of power
Budget Doug de'muro
Most cars don't hit peak torque until 3,000 4,000rpm. That's why it all the power isn't there right away.
He has a forest Whitaker eye
I don't have a strong opinion on the Camaro (except to say that a car with blind spots like that is a straight-up menace to society). I just liked your review. I get so sick and tired of seeing car reviews that don't actually seem to give a damn about whether or not the vehicle is good, the reviewers just want to get as many page hits as possible. That applies all the way from Top Gear to a new TH-camr who just picked up an old BMW. Very few people seem to care if the cars are good.
The only people who seem to be trying to actually review cars are Doug Demuro, The Fast Lane Truck, and... that's about it. You genuinely don't seem to understand all of the reasons the Camaro is the way that it is (it has an 8 speed for gas mileage, dude) but at least you're willing to take a strong position. More people could learn from that.
Nice seeing a video on the v6, and mostly well done but a couple of points:
- 8 speed, why? because it is an auto and there are a lot of advantages of having 8 speed on an auto and of course once you try to shift it yourself, you will be left with an awkward sight with all 8 speeds available, that is given. Brace yourself, there is a 10 speed coming!
- Shift denied: The engine denies shift in order to limit you screwing with the transmission and getting it out of use. It shouldn't let you donwshift to say 2nd or 1rst if the rpms are going to be out of the safe range! I have had experience with my previous 1ss denying shifts.
- Suspension: Having owned a 5th gen to the 6th gen, it litterally saw it as day and night. I always take trips (long windy road trips) with my car and as much as I hate saying this, the 5th gen felt like a flipping boat, I could feel its limit when turning and had to back off very fast, the 6th gen (and that includes the v6) is a piece of history on that end, sharing the cadillac frame, the suspension is the best out of the 2 other competitors and some much higher priced cars (I have a couple of windy roads races that show that the limit the camaro can approch with that suspension is much higher than some bmws).
- Now regarding the manual shifts, yes it is a mess and that is one of the reasons why I went for an actual manual car instead of trying to have a automatic car with paddles that shifts a sec or half a sec after you want it to do so: messes up with when you are actually trying to have some real fun unless you give yourself some time to get use to it.
Anyhow I thought I would give my 2 cents.
Cheers
Thanks for your input. Those were all valid points. I am a huge fan of the V8 Camaro like the 1ss and ZL1 1LE. The purpose of this review was to show that the V6 Camaro doesn't perform like a Camaro is supposed to. I understand what you were saying about the transmission but it was denying shifts even at lower speeds like when I was in 4th going 40 and wanted to downshift to 2nd to overtake someone. Maybe the 10 speed will be improved but I'd still stick to a manual.
no problem, I still do believe it is worth its price. Don't get me wrong, it is one thing to have a v8 but let us not compare apples and oranges, the v6 is plenty of car for its price and tech package that it offers compared to the competition I think. I also think that both trims share the same parts besides the engine unless you upgrade to the magnetic ride which changes the way the suspension behaves, ie: I am not sure what you mean by "the V6 Camaro doesn't perform like a Camaro is supposed to", would it be related to the power it gives or the ride quality or something else? Don't take it the wrong way, I don't have the v6 but the 1le 1ss so I am merely trying to understand your point as I haven't seen anyone yet anywhere else put the v6 out of the competition when it seems it should be a step up from the last generation.
It's better around a track than a v6 mustang and v6 challenger.
You say consistantly it does not perform like a Camaro is supposed to.. it's the best handling fastest best featured V6 Camaro made to date... so your right it handles better then a Camaro is supposed to and has set a new standard for what NA V6 car in it's catagories can do.
Cat delete, chip performance, manual trans.
Great looking, good mpgs, $26k base.
Who cares about back seats, all I care about is my seat.
Did you bother to watch? He reviewed the automatic. This review has nada to do with the manual. Pay attention below you waste our time.
You sound like a liberal! First off could you try to get in the back seat in any worse of a way. Second the cloth seats are great and have great adjustability. Visibility is overrated. Handling is great. The way you paddle shifted was wrong, seemed like you expected v8 power from a v6 engine. That was a horrible review, all you did was bash it. It may not be perfect but it's know where near as bad as you say it is. Erase your channel!
Scott B what does political ideology have to do with a bad car review?
funny. Before I saw your comment, my first thought was "what a whiney conservative snowflake" (you know the type: angry and bitter, and complaining about everything and everyone under the sun). different strokes for different folks, I suppose.
No he sounds like a douchebag delusional right wing ball licking Trumper douchebag you know the ones who have no fucking clue what the hell is going on in the world and the ones always whining and complaining shut the fuk up you stupid trumptard you don't even know what a liberal is idiot 😂
@@John-wp9su MAGA
You guys are all idiots.
Dude. You need a Bilstein Nordschliffe suspension and BMR end links. The power comes on up high. A six speed manual is the ONLY WAY to enjoy it, but it has clutch issues. I want to know about those issues.
Here’s a comment from the future. V8 6th gen are running about $40-50k while the v6 are from $24-$30k Monet plays a big factor until all but also selection within 100 miles from where I live no blue v8 could be found and I look at my car so color is important this has been my dream platform since the early 2010 and the four cylinders lack of power drive me to the v6 mind you I found one with all the upgrades except for a sun roof and let me tell you I’m smitten. The luxuries you get with the Camaro vs a non premium mustang or a stock v6 challenger is just amazing. I’m comparing these because they are similar in price for each respective platform. The mustang to me felt cheap and not well built while the challenger felt far too slow for the price it was demanding with nothing of quality to redeem it. So Camaro I went. I love it and will drive it till me or it dies (hopefully me first lol). Great review though from a sports perspective next time let’s get you a stock vs upgraded one
I would nix the $2000 whatever upgrade and go with the manual trans. All late model Camaros have poor vision. That's why they look so cool.
your infotainment is way different than mine as well as the speedometer screen thingy
What woudl be good advice to give a 20 year old kid . I can make payments on a ‘16-‘19 SS but part of me wants to just get a LT or LS buy out cash and wait a couple years to get a ZL1
Cars like this aren't meant to have a lot of people in it! Two people or just you the driver enjoying yourself in a car that looks great, easy on gas and just fast enough not to kill yourself or somebody else. Stop complaining and drive!!
😂Yes! The V6 camaro is just for the look and feel of a sports car not the performance. It was ment for driving around town not racing.
I love my camaro rs
Pretty objective from an 'engineering' perspective. Obvious that he's not on Chevie's payroll.
Your video seems to be more of a buyer's opinion rather than a journalist's review.
I didn't buy the car. It was loaned to me to review.
This video is really accurate in my opinion. Most people complaining are people who own this car . If you love this car, all power too you !! Personally, I don't see the hype about it.
💯💯💯 I’ve noticed everything you said bro good review
It's not turbo lab, it's transmation lag
+VIVIIV VI I think it was a combination of transmission and computer lag. It felt almost like turbo lag. This car has a naturally aspirated motor.
@@CarVisionLA you are a dumbfuck
Opinionated review. I own the '17 v6 with a 6 speed mt. I love it. GM wanted $10k more for a v8 alone and to me I'd rather invest that $10k for a '68 Camaro in ten years. Do some more research too, I was a car length behind an old Camaro 383 stroker up to 90 mph...hp to weight ratio the v6 is quite nimble.
sorry to say but compared to driving both mustang and camaro brands mustang really took the bone it’s a real love or hate for me
There is 1 solution stop being cheap and get the v8 Camaro and floor it with thegas
how tall are you
I get where he's coming from while I do think he was very harsh I do think he made fair points. (Trust me I made my fair share of Jeep/Camaro and car videos that got a lot of hate.) Don't let people get you down, keep it up.
Thank you
This guy must work for Ford or Dodge because he bashed the car all the way through the video😢
The Camaro is not a sports car it's a muscle car
I'm not a hater like it or leave it I have a C7 3LT 2014 Corvette Crystal Red Metallic very nice car 460hp 6 speed automatic and I have the 2017 Camaro Convertable Anniversary model and they only made 1330 Convertable Anniversary's V8, V6, and only 60 2.0 Turbo and that is what I got 275hp its plenty fast it comes fully loaded even heated steering wheel I drove all three cars the V6 was in my opinion not much different than the 2.0 Turbo seriously in my case money is not a problem I wanted the 2.0 after driving them all I didn't buy it to race I bought it to cruise and get good millage so I'm not filling it up all the time as a driver its the best I love it as a matter of fact I like driving it as much as the Corvette the car gets the looks to the Night Fall Gray is full of Metallic and the accent colors just set the car off and with 50 all over it makes it very unique. If you want a race car buy the ZL1 or the ZR1 even the SS is very fast my Corvette will land you in jail and so will my Camaro because they will all go over 100mph and in most states you will lose your car and license if caught doing it. My opinion no matter what engine you get these new Camaros are off the hook just love is all I have for it, I will keep it in my collection for ever I will never sell it I have a Boss Hoss V8 Trike which is super fast with 425hp 3 speed turbo 350 automatic and weighs in at 1500lbs 0 to 60 in 3 seconds and the Camaro came with a life time power Tran warranty which some dealers are offering now it just doesn't get any better buy one you will love it but buy the 2lt the others are just not there like the one he's driving no way its a stripper get them loaded or stay home.
Camaro backseats are only there for cosmetics. They maybe useful for small children and extra cargo space, but that's about it.
Why would you get a Camaro if it’s not an 8?
The V6 is Very fast and Uses less gas and cheaper on Insurance and cost's 10-15 grand less.
not everyone has v8 money, ever thought about that?
the .7 seconds faster for a v8 compared to the v6 isnt that great. cool your .7 seconds faster for 0-60 your soo fast and cooler . yeah cash out that extra 20k for .7 seconds. its called a business decision if you buy the V6. but people dont understand that they only see Materialistic views.
i bet the iphone 8plus is worth the extra inch too huh xD
And your car is .7 seconds faster than a Honda Accord lol what’s your point? At least with the SS I can say that it’s faster than a 2009 Audi R8 and a 2004 Ferrari Spider 360.
Haha you’re salty as fuck. Not 20k difference either
You got a lot of hate for this. I have a v6 Camaro rental for a couple of weeks and felt the same way. Felt a lot slower and heavier than my alfa Romeo giulia which has a similar 0-60 and weight
Yeah, I wasn’t a fan. I released this video over two years ago and I still stand by my opinion.
What mode wher you driving the Car? Cause if you were in Sports Mode you would be opening up more of the potential of the engine
Sport mode
you probably just hate the Camaro. and to get the most out of the torque you should of use the paddles to accelerate. this car is faster then the rt challenger. and the NPP exhaust sounds great
I have no reason to hate the Camaro. In fact, I love the Camaro. I’m a huge fan of the SS, ZL1 1LE, and the previous Z28. This video reflects my honest opinion of the base model variant. There are many potential upgrades for this vehicle and with the right options chosen, it is an excellent car.
@@CarVisionLA this v6 is faster the the 4th gen v8 too. the v6 is a sports car the v8 is a muscle car.
did you test drive it before buying it?
The car is not mine. It was given to me for a few days to review.
It's not a sports car is a muscle car
The absolute most straight forward, most honest, no sugar-coating review I have ever seen!! 👍🏻
No non-sense empty bla bla bla talk.
Good work man. Subscribed
Camaro Fan boys are very upset because he was not praising the car, seriously! Get out of here & accept the facts 😂
Youre the only one ive heard complaining about the paddle shifters 😂 dude stop stop stooop
He was talking about the automatic for Christ's sake, You people don't listen.
can u hold down the downshift paddle for 3 secs and it auto downshifts to lowest gear possible as in the ZL1?
No, I don't believe you can do that in the V6 model.
Yes you can. I have one.
@@CarVisionLA good lord dude, you really hate this car
Bro def got beat by one so wanted to hate 😂
im 6'5 is there enough leg room??
milplayer19 yes my grandpa got in and he’s 6’6
My 2LT RS M6 will launch
Simply:Camaro v6 its a great and beautiful Car!
You got a lemon 🍋
electronic throttle, my jeep has it, but its not as bad as that one.
Do the exact same thing with a SS V8 and you w.ould be singing a different tune.
That is true. I think it’s a much better bang for your buck.
this review goes in the face of the 6-7 other reviews from more legitimate sources i’ve watched. only reason i clicked was the title and thinking to myself “hmm I haven’t seen anyone have a bad experience, let’s see what he has to say”. what you had to say was complete garbage. feels like you watched kelly blue books video and said the extent opposite. also, they give this and every other car an 8 speed transmission for fuel economy. when you’re going 60 on the highway of course you aren’t gonna get a ton of torque slipping into 6th or 7th, or even 5th. that’s just one thing about your video that’s ludicrously inane. here’s my advice - don’t put up a video that you think is going to get views because it goes against the grain of what everyone else has to say UNLESS you have valid, informed criticism. otherwise it’s gonna tank your channel like this god awful video surely did. good luck bouncing back from this one, friend. woof.
Hi Lewis, I am not criticizing their use of an 8-speed automatic for gas mileage purposes. My actual criticism was the speed at which the transmission was downshifting. I totally understand that manufacturers need to take gas mileage into serious consideration, but if they are going to put an automatic in a sports coupe, they better make sure it downshifts quickly. In my test, I found its performance in this regard to be lackluster at best.
CarVisionLA but what is your expectation of a car that you can purchase for $15-25k with low mileage (or $30k brand new)? It’s barely a sports car, if you can call it that. It’s essentially stuck between a muscle/pony/sports car hybrid and doesn’t particularly excel in any category. I feel as though that is a valid criticism of this car. Newer models of the camaro have certainly pushed it further in the direction of a sports car, but this model still feels the growing pains of a shift in marketing/concept from the early 2010’s when this model was truly a piece of garbage
What kind of car do you drive?
+Ricky Garcia My daily driver is a 2006 Lexus IS350. I also have a BMW E46 as a weekend car.
CarVision you're hating on that poor little camaro..
Normally I enjoy the cars I drive but this one had some serious flaws. It was poorly executed in my opinion and is not up to par with the impressive legacy its name carries. As an automotive journalist, I need to objectively evaluate each vehicle and this one did not impress me at at all.
He doesn't -- he still drives his Mom's minivan.
Riiiiiggghhhtt, and meanwhile Motor Trend picked it as their Car of the Year. You sir, are a fucking moron. Don't worry, though -- no one will mistake you for an actual journalist. www.motortrend.com/news/2016-chevrolet-camaro-is-the-motor-trend-car-of-the-year/