Vevor Model 40H Magnetic Base Rotabroach Drill Review .
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2023
- We look at the Good , the Bad & the Ugly ( mostly good ! ) details & operation
of a Vevor Model 40H Rotabroach Magmetic Drill .
The Drill seems to be quite good with relevance to price .
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G Day Max, I have gone to the little DJI action cameras now, so far have not had any issues. These Chinese tools are handy to have around and they often go ok but they just drop the ball a few times just with little things on most items and to repair the little faults would be stuff all to make a really handy product. No surprises with the chuck I have had a few cheapies over the years that no longer get used.
Cheers Lance . It's only been cutting out like it has been since i fitted the new media mod . Having to take the battery in & out often to get it to switch back on is starting to wear a bit thin ! 👍
Good review, Max. I missed the double dovetail where you can move the motor even higher.
Thanks Rob . It's a good feature , except for the short cord ! 👍
Honest appraisal as we'd expect from your self Max, drill chucks seem an after thought on these types of machines, ref big loss of useable travel. Annular cutters have compliance built-in, ref coupling and not an issue!.
Drill motor cable is a ridiculous issue, but otherwise useful tool.
I have a BUX magnetic drill, tad larger, weighs in at 75 kg.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers . Yes the Bux drills are heavy . The one we had was over 40 years old , heavy use & still going strong . I used to line bore a few buckets with our one along time ago . It had the adjustable power feed . 👍
100% agree on the GoPro. They are absolutely junk. I recently switched to DJI Action 3 camera and microphone and absolutely love them. Significantly better than the GoAmateur
Cheers Josh . I know now , never again ! 👍
I was fully expecting that chuck runout, as every other thorough VEVOR review of their mag drills I've seen had the same issue. You gave it a good and fair workout and it performed as expected. I've reviewed a few VEVOR products and they have been excellent value for money. If they correct the issues you raised the product would be a bargain. Good review Max. Cheers Rob
Thanks Rob . 👍
Excellent review Max - fair and thoughtful.
Thanks Dan . 👍
good video Max, when i get my annular cutters re sharpened i asked Greg to decrease the cutting edge angle by half, it still has enough relief for the chips but it makes a much stronger edge, especially on stainless steel and though materials.
Is that broken threads Greg ? I will sharpen my own , if i ever get my t&c grinder tooled up ! 👍
Really nice comprehensive review....well done Max 👍
Thanks Dean ! 👍
Gday Max, for the price point it’s worth putting a couple of dollars in to make a few improvements, im quite happy with mine and it preformed good except the drill chuck, for a tool that’s not used all day everyday I think they will have a decent life span to, great video mate, cheers
That's what i reckon as well ! 👍
Trepanning with a mag drill! Good one. Excellent review. Thanks very much.
Cheers . 👍
*_Bananas are going to become actual standard and 500 years from now no one will question it._*
Interesting point ! 👍👍👍
It's only taken a year or two so far for the cognoscenti to know about it, give it ten years for the plebs to catch on.😂😂😂
Opie- then what do I do with all those foreign measuring and turning thingies that I have had to purchase? Can’t beat the manufacturers, they have snuck different sizes on us gradually. Next thing we will need British Standard! And I believe from late information that there is another hiding in the bushes of obsolescence 😂
@@wrstew1272 Oh yeah that. Well, you have to throw them all out and buy brand new. LOL
Great review Max! Thank you!
Cheers 👍
I've been watching a few reviews on these and yours is very good and honest assessment, will probably end up buying one as well. Cheers Allan (Perth)
Thanks . I will just buy another chuck , maybe see what Sydney Tools have . 👍
max,
you are the first with a REAL HONEST REVIEW!
all the other youtubers who did a review were all hallaluja about the mag drill.
I don't think vevor will send more tools to you for a review, because you are way too honest :-)
thanks for the video,
cheers ben.
Lol . You have to say it how it is .... reputations might be on the line !!! 👍
thanks max. alwayswondered about these
Cheers , now you know ! Should be a good unit once a couple of things are sorted . Better than having to buy a $1500 one that only gets used every now & then . 👍
Good job on the evaluation, thanks
Cheers 👍
Hi Max, I have like you call them Rota Broaches, must be an Aussie thing.
Make great milling cutters, in Indonesia I was in a bind, blunt milling cutters and used a rota broach to finish the job.
Regarding overheating of the electro magnet, using a generator with poor sine wave output they will definitely overheat.
Extend the cable and throw the chuck in the bin, will make a useful tool with a quality chuck.
Cheers . I think we just call them rota broaches because we can not be arsed calling them annular cutters ! 👍
I think it must be a Commonwealth thing. We call them Rota Broaches in Canada as well.
I've been very satisfied with this drill. I replaced the electrical cord to the motor to increase the travel. I replaced the $5 chuck with a $50 keyless chuck that is perfect. I had to spend some time aligning the gibs for best results. The only thing I can't fix is the Weldon shank socket: it is too loose, so when you tighten up the screws it pushes the annular cutters off axis and they no longer run true. Some shims might fix this, but I need something thinner than 0.05mm, which I can't find.
That's a bugger about the shank . I might measure my one , although it felt ok . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop I made some measurements today, and the runout is 0.040mm at the internal surface of the Weldon socket, and unfortunately is in the direction which adds to the runout produced by tightening the screws. The runout increases to 0.095mm for an annular cutter. The diameters of the Weldon shanks of a couple of Vevor annular cutters I tried were 19.026mm, which is 0.024mm below 0.75 inches. Machinery's Handbook says that the maximum error is 0.0005", which is about 0.013mm, so the cutters are out of tolerance by a factor of 2. I can't accurately measure the internal diameter of the shank, but the runout measurements imply it is about 19.08mm (my Mitutoyo digital calipers say 19.07), which is about 0.03mm too big.
Anyway, this all sounds like splitting hairs, but the end result is a runout of about 0.1mm (or four thousandths of an inch) on the cutter, which is not particularly good.
@@michaelc.b.ashley16 I will measure my one over the weekend & get back to you.
@@swanvalleymachineshop I checked my drill press (MT3 spindle with a keyless chuck) just now and was surprised to find that the runout was 0.12mm, which is worse than the Vevor magdrill. In practice, the magdrill works fine once the annular cutter bites into the metal, as does my drill press. For a milling machine, runouts like these would be a concern.
@@michaelc.b.ashley16 bore for chuck / cutter 0.7505 , run out is not quite a 1/4 thou . 👍
Yep definitely an unbiased and fair review Max. 👍
The flood coolant tank being gravity fed wouldn’t be much use if you were drilling upside down up through a beam, with the safety strap on, I’m guessing. 😉
Then again I’m guessing non of the high end ones would be any different most likely.
You guessed right ! 👍
Max, I like the cunning way the chuck runout saves your drill bits by cutting on one flute only. 🤣🤣🤣
Eric
Only ever have to sharpen one side ! 👍
Well done, Max. The leaky valve and the short cord are kind of crucial but that crappy drill chuck --- takes a lot away from what appears to be a very good product.
Thanks . Yes , if only if the chuck was at least semi reasonable . After all , even the chucks on good brand battery drills are crap . 👍
A good review max,great video, keep'um coming..
Thanks 👍
Interesting Max. I started out intending just to dip into this but actually watched it all. I use a Sony camcorder - a bit traditional but the sound is amazing, has a built-in gimbal and with the zoom is so good you could watch the fleas on a dogs bottom. Cheers
I might send my camera back for a warranty swap ! 👍
You watch fleas? Dang fella, you need a hobby 😂
Nice honest review, seems with some tweaks it would be a handy machine
Dead right . For an occasional use tool , hopefully it may last . 👍
The pin shuts the coolant off at the top of the cutter. When using the coolant you could just put the handles on the other side to avoid the coolant hose. Since annular cutters cut from the inside out, it's best if you can get cutting fluid inside the cutter. There are paste type lubricants that can be put inside the cutter that will melt as the cutter warms up.
The pin pushes open the coolant valve when the pointy end contacts the work . This one does not shut off , just leaks . 👍
Very good review…interesting the various models they market (I have 3 of them), only filmed testing 1
Thanks Chuck . 👍
good review Maxy, i always run my cutters slower with the coolant instead of cutting oil for best life (in my limited experience) , but as you mentioned with the variable frequency you may not get the best torque output.
Cheers Troy . Like all variable speed things , not to many gg's down low . 👍
G'day Max... That was one of the best reviews I've seen in a while. Do you think they will ask you to do another one 😂😂😂.
In general besides the few bit you pointed out, which can be eaily attended to in a warranty situation, the Mag drill did ok.
Great video, catch you on the next one.
You know me Ted , i say it how it is ! 👍
Thanks Max,cheers
No worries . 👍
Hi Max. I don’t have a mag drill, but I use these bits in my mill a fair amount. I’ve given up on high speed though, as I work on stainless pretty often, and that will definitely burn the bit up even at low speed. I’ve found that carbide goes through like butter. I’m interested in buying a mag drill for no reason I can think of other than “why not”. I’ve also found out that high end, expensive bits don’t seem to work better than cheap bits, if you get the right ones. It’s interesting that if they didn’t give the possibility of using the handles on both sides, the coolant tube wouldn’t have been a problem.
A friend of mine has them sharpened different for stainless . Slightly less clearance under the tooth to strengthen it up . Check cobhmanwelder's comment below . 👍
Max, send them a link to your video. Joshua DeLisle does quite a few Vevor videos, they have gotten back to him about how they have fixed the problems he found. They even took one product off the market until they got all the problems fixed...
Lol . I wonder if they even look at them , one would think so ! 👍
That video was from CEE, I watched that one the other day. Very cool.
Lol , 👍
I’m thinking I might try the DeWalt. Not as expensive (in the US) as the top tier options, but probably not as refined. But maybe acceptable quality levels? I usually don’t cheap out on tools, but for something that’s occasionally use? If I were an iron worker or trailer maker, my choice would be different. The Dewalt is $900. The standard size Fein/Juicy Slugger is $1700 (USD).
Spend the extra on good imperial and metric carbide cutter sets.
If i used one on a daily basis , i would take a serious look at the Holemaker brand . Made in Europe . 👍
If you put a bit of rod in the chuck, tighten and use a cordless drill and some valve paste to lap it, it may give a better taper contact area. Good review. I am satisfied with the quality of the Vevor stuff - for the price. I haven't had to use support yet....
The taper is bored crocked to the chuck axis . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop ah, a slight taper angle mismatch would probably have been fixable, crooked axes not so much.
@@stevedotrsa Off camera i corrected the taper miss match thinking it may have been seating on the angle , but it's the crooked axis .
For occasional use it seems like a decent unit. Too bad they can't raise the price a few bucks and include a real Jacobs chuck.
Cheers Tom . It would be a good unit with a proper chuck & longer cord . 👍
Double dovetails! Thats slick!!
Just a bit ! 👍
Thanks for giving us the skinny on Vevor Mag Drill! Have you had any experience with their ultrasonic cleaners? Needing one for my cleanup
Hey , Cheers JB . No never used one before , might be a tad small for Poclain parts ! 👍
You did not mention the RPM range nor if it has the reverse fonction.
Also you failed to say the maximum reach from center to the edge of the magnet.
Thanks for sharing.
God Bless.
Missed those ones ! 👍
good mag drill Max
Cheers . 👍
Wow the runout on that chuck is the worst I've ever seen, i thought the 0.015" runout on my Chinese drill press was bad but it's not looking so bad now.. the tapers on my drill press were worse though, they were so bad that I locktited everything together temporarily because it was completely unusable as it was, but theres nothing more permanent than a temporary fix and it's still locktited together 20 years later 😁
Loctite to the rescue ! 👍
Can those bits be resharpened, I'm still learning. Many thanks
Yes . on a tool & cutter grinder . 👍
Maybe the drill chuck is actually a boring head in disguise and the mystery Allen key adjusts it.
Did you check how square the travel was to the base? It sounded like lots of unhappiness when withdrawing the cutter.
I like the boring head theory ! 👍
Ha thought you had lost the plot on this review at the start of your review everything seamed to be to good to be true ,and that can be the case with free product reviews,however the truth was revealed.
Thanks Dwayne NZ.
Things are never too good to be true ! A few minor fix's & it may be a good enough unit for occasional use . Better than paying 3 or 4 times the price for something that sits around doing bugger all most of the time ! 👍
With the price of copper, they saved three cent's,.....😁👍👍👍
Lol 👍
Max, I don’t think GoPro will be asking you to review its products🖕🏻 😁.👍🏴
They can stick them where the sun don't shine ! 👍
Tanks Maxy mollydooker great review Vevor please fix the issues, as for gopros not cheap my opinion over rated .
Cheers . They are only minor issues but it lets the whole tool down . 👍
You are comparing a $250 tool to a $1000 plus tool. You can adjust the things you need to perfect it for cheap
Yes & all faults are basic manufacturing flaws . There is cheap & usable and cheap & unusable ! 👍
Thicker cord does not necessarily mean thicker wire, probably more insulation than wire, that company only sells crap!
Should just be more insulation , quality unknown ! 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop all know is we've inadvertently purchased a few Vevor brand products and nothing is ever up to spec, just as that cord could get someone serious hurt, we bought a 20 ton Air over hydraulic bottle jack and it was filled with brake fluid instead of hydraulic oil, it swelled up few seals and ended up having to replace every seal inside it, besides we contacted the company directly about a month ago, waiting for over a hour speak to "tech-support", ended up being a sells person, wasn't interested in or cared that their product is crap, tried to sell more s linear scales instead of trying to make their customer happy, ebay sellers don't usually advertise their selling Vevor brand, got 2 linear scales for project and they where supposed to be same part numbers, but had different connectors, where missing all the mounting hardware plus after while of having them, scales didn't work on either dro screen and sick and tired of our hard earned money going to a company selling trash, don't take this wrong, nothing towards you sir, but more people doing these "reviews" more sellersflood the market with Vevor garbage (and so far you've been only single one that's gave a decent review! Actually told/showed flaws!) And it's different when you purchase these products and it's garbage, that's money down the drain and time lost that could be getting project done so can make Money back. Just wished things were made in country, instead of overseas in sweat-shops and from your videos watched, believe you'd rather not deal with crap imported trash, again sir mean no ill will towards you or anyone else, just tired of this trash in marketplace!
Complete junk, the sad thing is Vevor benefited from free publicity in spite of the rubbish they put in the box. 👎
Lol . Won't diss agree with you there ! But like most Chinese tools they need a slight bit of attention . I will get a good drill ( if the motor lasts ) out of it once a couple of minor things are sorted . For the amount of times a year i would use it , a Bux or Holemaker etc would not be worth the expense . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop how is the drill after 8 months? still good?
@@incelpolskatv3855 It has only had light use , but yes still going good . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop good to know, as strange as it sound, I'm gonna buy one and convert it in to small cheap milling machine, hopefully the runout and rigidness is good enough for that task, there are adapters from weldon to ER collet chuck.
@@incelpolskatv3855 I don't think it would be rigid enough for that task !