After crying out to the Lord in prayer I raised up my Bible and I asked the Lord to speak and he spoke first Read: Matthew 24:4 and I read on till verse 51. Then I paused and consider these deep words in my heart. As I open the Bible and the second book Mark was conveniently in place starting in the book of Daniel chapter 7 verse 9. I continued on reading all the way up to chapter 8 Vision of the ram and a goat. And then I paused again and prayed and considered it in my heart I asked Lord please help me understand such deep words and parables. And I came across your teaching this Bible study of yours was so deep in dissecting the The word of God that your lessons and explanation made it so simple for me to follow through and understand more clearly. I thank the Lord for such a beautiful intervention personally for me by guiding me to your video this was very Significant but mainly supernatural and I thank the Lord for you Mark! bless you and your ministry I pray for your strength and you’re covering to continue on in Jesus Name!
THIS WAS SO IMPACTFUL, POWERFUL AND SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND, I BLESS GOD FOR THE GIFT HE HAS BLESS YOU WITH... EVERYONE THAT HAS AND UNDERSTANDING CAN UNDERSTAND THIS TEACHING🇧🇸
Dear Mark, Thank you for your Bible teaching. Your emphasis on making it simple enough for a beginner in prophecy makes it so easy to listen to. May the Lord bless you.
Thank you for giving such profound and concise clarity on this chapter. I might add that your voice, tone and the manner of which you spoke made it easier to follow along.
Thank you so so much for this great series of lessons on the Book of Daniel - a book very difficult to understand. Looking forward to more of your teachings. God bless you!! 🙏
Mark, thank you for taking the time to break down a chapter that has previously left me a bit scrabbled over the last few weeks. You speak with clarity and offered a clear expository detailing the areas that you felt will also be made clear over time. May His peace and revelation be with you.
Mark McMillion I think people fail to use the KEY in Daniel 7 and 8. They must be overlapped on a map. If the Little Horn is to arise out of the Revived Roman Empire/European Union/Fourth Beast in chapter 7 and then he is also to arise out of one of the FOUR HORNS in the LATTER TIME..........Then all we have to do is take a map of the four offshoots of Alexander the great and overlap it on a map of the Roman Empire/Revived Roman Empire.( European Union ) The only country that overlaps both Kingdoms is Greece. I think God plainly reveals to us that the Anti-Christ will come out of two kingdoms, and the only country that fits both profiles is Greece. Great teaching by the way. I would assume with you knowledge you would be a pre/mid ( which is really pre) trib guy. But I have been wrong before, lol. God Bless.
Amazing, I read chapter 1 through 7 by myself, the prints are so small, so I thought to find an audio recording of chapter 8 on you tube and i stumbled to this, wow wow how you broke it down n brought it to live, I am blessed n scared at the same time. God bless you sir..
May God bless u dear Mark . All the video you have on Book of Daniel are so wonderful and very helpful . I will be watching the rest and watching again and again all . Bless u a lot !!!!!
GBY, bro! I was listening to Alexander skourby reading Daniel 8 this morning right at the end your video popped up along with other versions . It was just like the Lord was pointing me to a more articulate understanding of these events. I haven’t studied or listened to your excellent videos since I left peru some five years ago. We are living in times of great confusion but your videos certainly clear up the fog. Thank you for your insights into this important question.
Thanks for this end time insight and interpretation of Daniel 8 so accurately portrayed. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to your Daniel 9 video.
Thanks. I expect that the first of the supplementary videos to Daniel 8 will be out around early December. I will be working on the two Daniel 9 videos after new year.
Mr. McMillion I wanna thank you .. for your video here that lets us readers and Believers of the word and the Book of Daniel, understand what this all means and with out pictures and foresight its hard to see and understand with clarity...... Now I do ...And thank you...GOD.... Bless... In Jesus Mighty name.. AMen...
Yes Sir I watched your video. And your presentation is the nearest to my beliefs on this Danien 8th. I've heard various presenters, but indeed yours tops them all. Looking to see more of your bible study videos. Much love from Jamaica, 🇯🇲!!
Very good video, but comprises one major inaccuracy - minute 4:36 - ancient Macedonia wasn't "an area to the north of modern Greece", but its territory is located precisely IN northern modern Greece, and another inaccuracy linked with and preceding the first one I mentioned - minute 4:15 - where there's an allusion to (ancient) Greece, which would've been made up from only the southern city-states, while Macedonia would've been outside of it. Truly, ancient Greece wasn't "really a united kingdom", so either was it made up of only the city-states, while Macedonia was a Greek kingdom. Thank you!
Thanks, you’re right on that. I should have said that ancient Macedonia was part of what it now northern Greece. When Paul had a vision of the man of Macedonia in Acts 16:9, saying “Come over into Macedonia and help us”, Paul and his friends then went to Phillipi and then Thessaloniki, a major city in modern Greece. I do know that the borders of these countries and others in the region have changed over the centuries so that there’s some dispute about what exactly Macedonia is. But I see that you have a Greek name and that you study these things so I know you are right and I was less than accurate there. Thanks for your help.
Dear Mark, thank you so much! May God continue to bless you with abundant wisdom to clearly and simple explanations of the mysteries and riddles of the bible which are way more then that. They are prophetic promises God will keep. His plans will come to pass exactly as He says they will. Let us obey His divine will for our lives. If anyone lacks wisdom...let him/her ask God who gives abundantly without our finding failure. For we are in a time when we need to help others understand what is to come and is now at our door step...Thank you; for clearly leading the way. It also encouraged me when you stated a couple of times that maybe it may be me and others who watched your videos to stand firm in our faith in Jesus Christ our LORD, the only begotten SON of GOD.
Mark McMillon, I admire that you are studying the scriptures and are trying to interpret Daniel's 2300 days prophecy and the 70 weeks. I believe the bible to be the true word of God and to be our guide to salvation. When interpreting the bible we do not force things to match what we believe to be true but we match things according to the scripture and we let the bible interpret itself, we should follow the things which are clearly given and try to match the ones we do not understand very well but without deviating what it is trying to show us. We should find the harmony between the scriptures and not our "own harmony". The bible is the PERFECT word of God and we have to go into deep study to find the truth. It is even necessary that if something seems to be out of harmony due to translations, to go to the original writings in hebrew, greek, arameic and find out what it is the real meaning or expression. Translations could be faulty but not the originals as they were written under the direct guidance and inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God. I have attached another interpretation of the 2300 and 70 week period and people should be the judge of what the Bible and History say and ask the Holy Spirit to guide them to the truth as the time is short before the return of Jesus. th-cam.com/video/AU5Ml-jXWL0/w-d-xo.html PART 1 th-cam.com/video/H30WxwOKsQA/w-d-xo.html PART 2
Revolution 12:4 the seventh King (for a short space of Revelation 17 verse 10 gets incarnated by the devil.) Which is the 2,520 days of Daniel 9:27. an the 8th that is not called a king in verse revelation..17: 11.. as it says he has but a (short time) when he is kicked out of heaven Revelation 12 ..Daniel 8:10!.
Please do it no for me so think about how much people finally might to understand those last times we are living, then using the wisdom of God to bless us
Mr. Mark, thank you for the vivid explanation. God richly bless you and your family. We behold the Lamb for His glorious return. Jesus Christ our Redeemer come soon!!!
Mark, this is a very good teaching of Daniel chapter 8, but I was a little surprised when you came to verses 9 through 14. I realize that there is obviously a future fulfillment of the abomination of desolation, but it was also fulfilled by Antiochus Epiphanes, who was the horn coming out of one of the four horns on the goat. Antiochus desecrated the temple with a pig, and placed a statue of Zeus in the temple. A little over three years later the Maccabean revolt occurred, and the Jews took back control of the temple and cleansed and dedicated it. Hanukkah is celebrated to commemorate that feast of dedication. God bless!
Thanks for your comment. Yes, Antiochus Epiphanies was a “type and shadow”, a partial fulfillment of the verses that will have their final fulfillment in the Antichrist of the endtime. I know some Bible teachers and even Bibles themselves say that the verses in Daniel 8 had their full and final fulfillment at the time of the Maccabees. Actually, I made another video specifically on this subject as it is a bit of a special one to me. It’s called “Some say the Antichrist has already come”. I hope it will be of interest to you, here’s the link to that: www.propheciesofdaniel.com/antichrist-already-come/
Mark McMillion Thanks Mark. I am definitely not a preterist. I believe the Antichrist is about to take his place on the world scene. The signs are all around us right now that the tribulation period is about to begin. I make videos on my channel, and I moderate a forum called Watchmen On The Wall Forum. God bless!
Thanks for your interest. On my web site, “ProheciesofDaniel”, there’s a recent blog post called “What’s Next For Me”. In that post is the list of videos I am working on right now and more or less when I will aim to get going on the Daniel 9 video. I’m really looking forward to it, God bless you. Mark
Thanks Mark, really great! I have a question: it seems to me that especially in light of recent events that Turkey rather than Egypt might play an important role in the rise of the Anticrist. The Ottoman Empire, which came out of the east Roman empire has been an Anticrist Empire for centuries and all that is happening in the area there and the feelings which are erupting from Turkey, the creation of Isis and all the mess there in Siria, seems to have a very Anticrist smell. In chapter 8 verse 9 there is no reason why the little horn (let's say it spring in Turkey ) could not grow great toward the south, the east and the pleasant land, it daes not duplicate the indications as the "pleasant land" is a bit more south-east from Instambul. What I mean is the things are happening right there right now, with tensions, whole armies and what not ready to made the general situation a "good set up" for the little horn to rise and gain power with the help of 10 kings...
i agree. the initial appearance of the liitle horn in chpt 8 refers to the initial set up of the empire, circa 1000 AD or whenever it was. And the later rise amongst the 10 horns refers to the latter reincarnation of the empire via a coaliton of 10 kings which we are expecting to happen anytime now. looking to the middle east. Mark thank you for such clear and simplifed teaching.
The Antichrist comes from the iron kingdom aka Rome and the iron remains in the feet so clearly the metal DID NOT CHANGE and is still ROME mingled with miry clay.
My bro, the bible says, "the path of the righteous is like the morning sun shining ever brighter till the full light of day. Proverbs 4:18. We may not at this point in our spiritual quest and growth, see eye to eye in all things, but if we continue to eat the little book out of the angels hand. Rev.10:8--11, our eyes will be opened so that we may all prophesy again. So let's continue feeding and sharing and the Lord will work his will in and through us.🙏📖🙏📖🙏📖🙏📖🙏📖
Thats the honest principle in relation to bible prophecy timeline. I hope Teacher Mark does recognize that. If not he will not be able to pinpoint events spot on such as Daniel 9 prophecy of 70weeks which translates to 490 years which details the annoiting of Jesus ministry and close of jewish probation
@@sefatsakhauta2849 so you're saying that the he of Daniel 9 27. And the he of Daniel 11:21. The guy ( the Prince of the the covenant ) Daniel 11:22.(that wins the kingdom by flattery's is Jesus Christ?) That does the abomination of desolation in Daniel 11:31 in the same abomination of desolation in Daniel 9:27 you're saying that's Jesus Christ? That Jesus is speaking of in Matthew 24:15..
Mark is quite accurate with the Daniel prophecy lessons in his videos. "And they that understand among the people shall be strong and do exploits". And yes, we do understand what Jesus tells us through His prophets of the Endtime which is now! You will see Jesus coming soon in the Clouds of Heaven as I drew in a color crayon picture in the first grade when I was only 7 years old. Jesus chose me to know of His return so that you can know too.
Mr. McMillion. I am studying the book of Daniel right now. It is my understanding that the Little Horn of Chapter 7 is different from the Little Horn of Chapter 8. The Little Horn of Chapter 7 is the Antichrist and the Little Horn of Chapter 8 is referring to Antiochus IV Epiphenes. You made no mention of Antiochus in the video so do you not believe that the Little Horn of Daniel Chapter 8 is referring to him? Your video does an excellent job of bringing everything down to a very comprehensible level for people to understand. I really enjoyed it.
+Beth Baugher I believe the little horn in Daniel 7 & 8 are both prophesying the same endtime Antichrist. Here’s a link to a short video on TH-cam I made specifically on this subject, a supplementary video to Daniel 8. th-cam.com/users/analytics?o=U#dt=nt,fe=16861,fr=lw-001,fs=16834;fc=1,fcr=0,fi=v-WluxN5zD6Gg,r=views,rpa=a,rpbm=7-93-110,rpd=4,rpg=7,rpgr=0,rpm=t,rpr=d,rps=93,rpsd=1
Beth Baugher and I also thought the best was Russia.. i'm confused.. sheeesh... i'm sitting too...i need help.. i've heard so many different versions.. it's crazy.. but I do know one thing Jesus never changes!!! amen no matter what we hear from different people we need to ask our father to confirm things
There is nothing to be confused about. .Best thing to do - don't impose assumptions into the text. The goat unambiguously refers to Alexander the Great and the Greek empire.
The anti-Crist is not a man, but a spirit. you are correct that the little horn is Antiochus IV Epiphanes. Please listen to this recording from a conference call i have with my brothers governed by Christ. Thank you. soundcloud.com/israelinchrist144/the-abomination-of-desolation-of-the-christian-church-daniel-8
Shalom shalom, Why don't you have that video in Spanish like the chapter 2 and 7 ?? That's will be good and blessed. So I hope you for 8,9,10, 11,12. Thanks
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out את eth-my RUACH upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out את eth-my RUACH. And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of YAHUAH come. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of YAHUAH shall be delivered: for in Mount Tsiyon and in Yerushalayim shall be deliverance, as YAHUAH has said, and in the remnant whom YAHUAH shall call. YO'EL (JOEL) 2:28-32 את CEPHER
Haven't heard back from you in a while, hope things are going well with your mom. I mentioned working on some videos and I forgot to get back in touch to let you know they are done. Feel free to take a look as I go into more detail than I ever could in a comment or two. Let me know what you think. Take care buddy! God bless!
Charlie Smith You have focused a lot on the significance of the festivals and their meanings. Just wanted to share this with you based on what I have asserted as far as how we can determine Jesus' date of birth based on the Festival of Booths. *I do not focus on festivals or their meanings but other people do in an attempt to see something that's not there.* It hinges basically on the fact that the 8th day of the festival of Booths is a special high-Sabbath. During Passover week, the 1st and 7th days are high-Sabbaths. The only other reference I know of that emphasizes the 8th day is the date of circumcision which occurs on the 8th day. Since it is clear Jesus' ministry begins in the fall, likely at the time of the Festival of Booths, I'm thinking that it would be too much of a non-connection for Jesus not to have been circumcised on the 8th day of life as well as the 8th day of the festival. If this 8th day points to the same event, then we can determine Christ's specific date of birth using astronomy, that is, presuming Jesus was circumcised on his 8th day of life to fulfill the 8th day of the Festival of Booths. That would mean that Jesus was born on the 1st day of the festival, Tishri 14/15. *That is a nice thought.* I believe you state Jesus was born in 2 BC and that year, the full moon, which was Tishri 14 fell on September 14 of all dates. Thus Jesus' birthdate per the Gregorian calendar would fall on September 14/15, 2 BC. This is just trivia, thought I'd share. *Yes I see.* REGARDING THE FIRSTFRUITS WAVE OFFERINGS: But I'd love to have you comment on something else, which is the firstfruits wave offerings being different. I associate the first and second wave offerings with the 1st and 2nd coming of Christ. Christ comes first as a holy, sinless sacrifice, thus the clear indication that the wave offering of the barley on the 15th produces "unleavened bread." Bread, of course, represents Christ's fleshly body. Leaven represents sin, and so the unleavened bread emphasizes that Christ would be born as a perfect human with no human father. We all get that. Christ was here for just 33-1/2 years for this purpose. *He was here that long and during the exact years for another reason altogether. He could've died at 60 or 20 or even been born in a different year or decade but some things wouldn't add up anymore. Even the timing of his birth serves a specific purpose looking at his length of ministry and time of death. Barley and wheat have zero to do with Jesus as he was offered as The Lamb of God and nothing else in scripture. As firstfruits, Jesus was not grain of any kind.* But when he returns, he will return to rule for 1000 years along with the elect. Thus we find the second wave offering at Pentecost of the wheat to be two loaves. I believe one represents Christ and the other the saints who will rule with him for 1000 years. However, both loaves are WITH leaven. Clearly this is understandable for those saints who are in imperfect bodies when Christ returns, but if the other loaf represents Christ, then it would suggest that when Christ returns, not needing to appear in a perfect body again, since that sacrifice was good for all time, that this indicates Christ would be in the same imperfect type of body as his saints. That is he would be in the body of an ordinary man at the second coming, perhaps to experience what it is like to be an imperfect man with the weaknesses inherited from Adam. *Jesus will return the same as he left just as the angels spoke when he ascended. No verse mentions a different body.* As much is implied at 1 John 3:2 where it says: "Beloved ones, we are now children of God,+ but it has not yet been made manifest what we will be.+ We do know that when he is made manifest we will be like him, because we will see him just as he is." *Yes, there was no way of explaining what Jesus is/was physically and this is evident looking at his resurrection in the gospel. John couldn't explain it then, neither could he in the epistle. Still, Jesus will return the same as he left and we will all be changed at that moment as Paul said.* From the above, it is clear that whatever state of physical body his resurrected elect will be in, it will be the same type of body as Jesus is in; thus both loaves being with leaven indicating that Jesus will be in the body of an ordinary man at the second coming, which is different from the "unleavened" offering of his first coming. Christ is in a body of unleavened bread at the first coming but in a body with leaven at the second coming. *How do you figure that Jesus changes bodies but the verses mentioning his body make no such reference?* I was wondering if you had a comment on the fact that the second wave offering might be connected to the 2nd coming, and if so, do you use this to explain the nature of Christ's body at the second coming being different than that at the first? *I do not see any connection because Jesus is a lamb, not a wave offering of grain like his followers (Matthew **13:37**).* Interesting, is it not? *Not especially. There are some issues to the theory.* This came to my attention more specifically when another commentator had noted that Christ was represented at the 2nd coming as the scape goat that itself needed to be sanctified with blood, thus representing it represented Christ in a sinful body at the second coming. Thus some believe Christ will appear in a physical body that is of no specific royal descent at the second coming. *That is strange. It seems that you're saying Jesus will need blood sanctification when he returns. The bible does not support such. Jesus cannot have a sinful body if he returns the same as he left. If he died in a sinful body then his blood was of no use to anyone. If he died in a sinless state, he was resurrected and will return in the same manner. There is no biblical basis for believing that Jesus will switch bodies (Acts **1:11**; 1Corinthians **15:44**-53).* Since you clearly are very much into the Hebrew and Judaic interpretations here, you must be aware that Jews have always recognized the two messiahs, messiah ben Joseph and messiah ben David. Genesis 49 indicates two kingships, one through David/Judah and the second through Joseph. But it is clear that the first messiah comes through David first and Joseph second as it says the "scepter will remain with Judah until Shiloh comes." That is, the scepter or kingship of the Christ from the first coming through Judah will remain with Judah until Shiloh comes, *Yes it is until Shiloh comes. That is from the tribe of Judah as the surrounding text does not mention Shiloh coming from another tribe.* who is a king from the tribe of Joseph, then the scepter or rule will transfer to the tribe of Joseph and all 11 tribes will bow to him. If so, this imperfect Christ at the second coming will come through the tribe of Joseph. *The bible does not say that Shiloh comes from the tribe of Joseph. Only Judah is mentioned in the prophecy (Genesis 49:8-12).* Since Joseph's two sons were half Egyptian, it adds meaning to the term "Out of Egypt I called my son" meaning the Christ would come out of Egypt at the second coming, not literally out of Egypt but would be of part-Egyptian descent being from the tribe of Ephraim, the second son of Joseph. *Well that is a leap from the tribe of Joseph to his sons seeing as how he had 2 boys. Jesus is represented as 1 of them? The "out of Egypt" prophecy is only about 1 son yet Joseph had 2 sons. The bible does not make a distinction between his sons in such a way. You seem to be mixing verses of differing prophecies together to form a prophecy of your own. The bible already interpreted the meaning of the phrase which takes all the guess-work out of the equation as to what was meant. I mean, Matthew **2:15** seems to say that the prophecy was fulfilled. Where does the bible leave room for further fulfillment if it says the prophecy was fulfilled already?* Just some thoughts. *Those are some thoughts indeed.* Thanks for your blogs and discussions. *You are quite welcome.* Smith
Charlie Smith Refiner The issue of Jesus being represented by the bread is his own. Wine represents his blood and the bread his body. The bread is UNLEAVENED to represent his sinless body at the first coming. *You are starting to sound like the Jews of John 6 who took him literally, missing the point and context though I understand why you think as you do now. Jesus was called the Passover Lamb in relation to the event. You might find Jesus in relation to us informative when read 1Corinthians 5:6-8. In harmony with chapters 10-11, 5:6-8 places the body as bread whereas Jesus is the Lamb. Why? The bread was a symbol of our share as members of the body which is further discussed in chapter 12 in detail. This is a reference to bread in only 1 respect whereas he is repeatedly called a Lamb and in direct connection with both Passover and the elect in general (Revelation 5:6-10).* The idea that Jesus cannot come back in his first perfect body has a basis in two things that I can think of, besides the 2nd wave offering being WITH leaven. a) He must give up his perfect body in sacrifice for mankind. He offers it up in heaven and thus has no more right to it. *The bible would need to support this. There are many things people can and do think which the bible does not say and this is a serious problem.* b) When he returns he has to use a different body. This is suggested because Jesus, after his resurrection, never appeared as his original self but kept changing identities. Then he told his disciples that we would return just as they saw him left, which meant in someone else's body. He was never to return as appearance as before. *The bible does reveal Jesus changing bodies? He made a point of showing Thomas that he had not changed. Why would he do so by showing him the piercings? Why not tell him something that revealed who he was? Why show his body?* But you rae correct, Jesus is not a sinner. But when he came back the first time, he only experienced humanity as a perfect individual. He did not experience what it was like to be in a weak, imperfect body. So presuming he does experience a body of a sinful man, he will have more understanding of what that is like. *Does the bible say that Jesus will or needs to experience life in a weak, sinful body? The bible seems to have closed a door on such a suggestion The book of Hebrews is a crash course on Jesus for Jews, perhaps you should look it over yourself. Simple, yet profound teachings on Jesus are there like: 1) what a perfect Jesus means and 2) that he was like us in every way to even be presentable as a sacrifice for us (Hebrews **2:10**, 17). Jesus' perfection wasn't in his birth but rather, his death (Philippians 2:7-9). For more on his body itself, please see Galatians **3:10**-14. Make sure your thoughts are brought into complete harmony with the WHOLE bible (2Timothy **3:16**-17).* But there is a catch-22 here. How does Jesus remain sinless in this case? Well when he returns in a sinful body the second time, along with some of the elect, God removes him from under Law and he becomes one who says that "Jehovah Is Our Righteous." *Hold on there! Where does God remove Jesus from being under Law ink connection with his return? What makes you think Jesus' body determines whether he is sinless or not?* That is, where there is no law, there is no sin. *This is what I'm getting at. Do you know how sin and perfection work in the bible? Did the Law exist when Adam and Eve sinned? Were their bodies relevant to sin or perfection in the Garden? Much can be learned by asking the right questions. The Sadducees had a seemingly great question to ask Jesus. Jesus revealed that they did not understand the resurrection they were reasoning upon.* So God simply removes them from under law and they can no longer sin nor can Satan tempt them after they have been sealed. *For God to ever take away the ability to sin, He would also remove free will in the process. What then was the point of Genesis 3 up to the present? The lesson of Genesis 1-3 appears to be that what God purposed, he saw as good! It is/was good for Satan and Eve to have free will. It was more than good though, it was His will. Why take away what is/was good? Love requires free will doesn't it?* Clearly this is a temporary arrangement. When the 1000-year rule begins then the rules will change. *What about when the 1000 years are over? See Revelation 20:7-15 for context.* But if you can't sin if there is no law then you remain sinless in God's eyes. this is similar to Christ breaking sabbath laws when he was here. *Jesus FULFILLED the Law which itself means he did not break it. Jesus breaking the Law is a Jewish interpretation right? Read Matthew **5:17**-20 some time. Jesus surely went further in that chapter to make the point I'm making here but I think you get it from those few verses right? There are other verses like it but your claims invalidate such scriptures. As Lord of the Sabbath, Jesus fulfilled rather than break Sabbath.* It is similar in modern culture to say an undercover DEA agent, who actually buys drugs and sells them for a while until they stage a bust. The court doesn't prosecute them because they are working undercover. God does the same thing. Some may end up doing something that has been a sin on the books before, but they are forgiven if it is part of their secret identity. The sin is not counted against them. *You would then assume God judges as a mere man. If so, how is He any better than any of us? Jesus certainly lied in claiming to fulfill the Law if he was breaking it correct? That very speech at Matthew 5 would make him a hypocrite as well, speaking against the scribes and Pharisee! Its an interesting thought that Jesus sinned but was sinless because he was undercover. I'm not getting that from the apostles though….* So I'm sure you can't at this point agree about this regarding Christ, however, the point remains, which is "without Law, there is no sin." If there is no law against marrying a sister, then it's no longer a sin. If the law of marriage is removed and it is no longer a sin to have sex with someone you're not married to, then it's not a sin. It's not held against you. *Last I checked, sin predates the Law. So where does that reasoning leave you? As for law itself… where there is a priest, especially a royal priest, there is law (Hebrews **6:20**-7:1). Knowing the purpose of priests helps in understanding law itself (Malachi 2:5-7).* This is similar to what the Jews went through when suddenly all the dietary restrictions they used to maintain were no longer sins. Suddenly it was acceptable to eat anything you wished. *Was this before or after Jesus FULFILLED the Law?* But some might be stumbled if they had a weak conscience. *This was not Judaism was it? That's an important point to think about.* The point is, though, is that GOD determines what is a sin and what is not, whether you will be forgiven or whether you will not. *God appointed priests for this exact purpose. Why are priests called "father" do you suppose? What does it mean that a priests' hands are filled with power? Understanding the priesthood and sin go hand-in-hand. You understand both or neither.* Or think of murder. We are not supposed to kill someone. But in wartime we are permitted to. Or we are permitted to kill someone else in self defense. *This goes back to fulfilling the Law and what that means. God gave Torah or instruction through Moses to not kill. When did Israel go to war? When God gave instruction or law to do so. Did the Jews always receive command to kill when they did? With what result? Are you saying that God expressly permits people to kill if its in self-defense?* Or take the new drug laws regarding marijuana. In some states it is now legal, but still remains a sin in other states. So what is illegal in one place is not in another. Sin is in the eye of the beholder. *Thanks for clearing that up because I thought God determines what is sin. It appears that Adam and Eve learned that disobedience to God alone amounts to sin… because it is sin or missing the mark God set (Genesis **1:26**, **2:15**-17).* If you are in a sinful body and God wants you to remain righteous, he can remove you from under law and then even if you engage in some former sin it will not be held against you. *You speak as the many before you. What God CAN do and actually DOES do are 2 different things are they not? This is why I like the bible because it tells us what God does more so than what's merely possible. We can think up endless possibilities straying from what is written in favor of our imagination. God removed sin from priests. Otherwise, they could not serve as such for they were unclean right? Ask yourself this: If Jesus was cleansed when acting as High Priest and is already appointed and serving without end, will he return in a defiled state as High Priest? Does anyone in the bible faithfully serve God as priest (including and especially Jesus) in a sinful state? If he serves like Melchizedek without end, how does he do so in a defiled state? When does his service even begin? That's important too (Hebrews 8:1-6).* It is impossible for you to sin if you are not under any laws you can break. *Jesus has fulfilled and established another law (Hebrews 8:6-13). This goes above and beyond the Law of the past (Hebrews **7:15**-28).* Fascinating. *On the subject of Law, you will find many, many scriptures from Hebrews 9 enlightening. They will create a need for adjustment on your part though.* Thanks for your feedback. *Anytime.* As far as a second kingship relating to Joseph is concerned, it is through Ephraim, the younger song that the messiah actually comes. The key text in this regard is Genesis 49:29 as part of Joseph's blessing says: "They will continue upon the head of Joseph, even upon the CROWN of the head of the one singled out from his brothers." *Oh I think you mean verse 26. Also, you "they" which is a reference to the "blessings" right? Look at Deuteronomy **33:13**-16 for further reflection. Did you notice the blessings? A reference to the crown of your head does not mean you are a king does it?* As I said, Jews have understood there would be two messiahs, one through Joseph and one through Judah/David. *Jews have understood many things that the bible disagreed with. Wasn't it the Jews that understood Jesus was a blasphemer by saying "your sins are forgiven"? Even the disciples asked "why do the scribes says that Elijah must 1st come" right? Even after Jesus answered, they were still lacking in understanding. Same goes for the loaves, fish, baskets and leaven to this day even among professed Christians all the same (Mark **8:14**-21). Where though is the Jewish understanding of the bible?* You can look up on Google "messiah ben Joseph" just to confirm the concept though I don't think the Jews understand this totally either. *There is much they do not understand but they will. Every Passover they await Elijah to teach them. The scribes say he is coming because he is.* So the idea of two messiahs coming from two different lines is not an original idea of mine. *I'm with you on that but is such a teaching really biblical?* Since Jesus has to give up his body in sacrifice the first time, that requires him to use a different body when he returns, likely the reason he always appeared in different appearances, never his original appearance, after his resurrection. *The bible does not say Jesus gave up his body unless I missed it somehow. Jesus' resurrection requires a different body about as much as those he and others resurrected. Was Jesus really in another body upon his resurrection? What does John **20:25**-27 say? What does the question Jesus asked in verse 28 reveal, given the context of 25-27?* Anyway, the idea is that when Christ first comes the kingship represented by the scepter remains in the line of Judah UNTIL Shiloh comes, meaning when Shiloh arrives it will no longer be in the line of Judah, thus, presumably in the line of Joseph, "messiah ben Joseph." Obviously, "messiah ben Judah" comes first. *You said "in the line of Judah" but the bible does not say this and for a reason. The scepter does not leave Judah because all the kings are from Judah until Shiloh comes, the one God gave as king. Does the bible say the Messiah, Jesus or Shiloh would come from another tribe? Here's a hint, where does the royalty come from when Genesis **49:10**-12 is fulfilled in the Revelation? Everything means something and every verse is worded the way it is for a reason. What is mentioned, "the line" of Judah or "Judah" as a whole? Every prophecy is tied to the 1st. The prophecy of Joseph is different than that of Judah and has to do with both sons, not just 1 son. Also, the blessings are essential to understanding the prophecy of Joseph as it is written and added to by several writers throughout the bible. It has very little to do with a Messiah.*
Charlie Smith You are very astute, indeed! //For God to ever take away the ability to sin, He would also remove free will in the process.// I would tend to agree, generally, but it is complex. That is, if you once were given a choice as a free moral agent and then you made your choice and were expected to be happy with your choice, then there is no need for free moral agency, though your choice is a permanent reality of your choice. *That does not make any sense. You said "if you once were given" but its not once, it is the will of God. If God changes, His will and what He saw as good really wasn't after all. Where did you see anything about your choice being a permanent reality in the bible?* Bottom line, if there are no choices then there is no need for free agency to make choices. So in some sense, indeed, you could say after you've made your choice then free moral agency is removed, but only because it is not necessary. Sin is removed because there are no laws to break any more. *If there is no choice then where is the love? God intended for man and angel to possess free will and look, it was good! If He willed it so and it is His purpose, what is missing here? Did God change and if so, where… when? You cannot say there are no laws when there is a royal priesthood that does not end and law is the whole purpose of priests and kings. I already provided the verses which say this.* Now as far as Jesus being in a defiled body as a high priest, it is much as you said, God determines what is righteous. But at this point I need to make a distinction between the act of wilful sin and the imperfect and sinful state of a person born from Adam. *Don't bother making distinctions because the bible does not. The bible only makes 1 distinction regarding sin and what you are suggesting isn't it (1John **5:16**-17).* Our bodies are considered imperfect and sinful and we error and need forgiveness. But ALL sin is not forgiven. There's a difference in sinning out of weakness and deliberately sinning against holy spirit, knowing full well what that choice was. Christ's sacrifice does not cover blatant, willful sin. *Jesus' sacrifice does cover blatant, willful sin (Matthew **12:31**-32)? You sound like a JW again and they have no understanding of forgiveness of sin and how it works. Jesus never said the word spoken against him must be by accident now did he? That word would be forgiven as he said. What is not forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. The word spoken against Jesus has nothing to do with your physical state does it? Yet it is forgiven anyway despite the willful sin. You, like them, have no idea what Jesus is actually telling you when he speaks of forgiveness and that's ok but you are wrong. Jesus' blood covers willful sin and everything else but that which is against the Spirit.* That's why during Judgment Day, those in Jesus' day will be condemned even before some of Sodom and Gomorrah because they knew much more, they had knowledge, they understood who Jesus was and they still decided they didn't want him. They were much like the angels who see God and know God's requirements, know God's power, and they just decide they'd rather live a short life and die with their choice. *That is more than willful sin. The issue with such people is they never accepted the blood. If they did, it would cover all of those bad, willful decisions because it has that power. As for angels, Jesus' blood is of no benefit to them because blood does not balance with spirits. Those angels committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit as did Satan. Its like this, if Satan were to repent and spend the rest of his time trying to right all the wrongs, can he be forgiven? Why or why not? After Genesis 3, there is nothing Satan could do to not meet the Lake.* So, indeed, God allows free moral agency and choice while choice is relevant. Once the good have chosen to be good, even under test and to the death, and the wicked have chosen otherwise, then God simply grants the righteous eternal life. They can't sin any more because there are no laws for them to break. *Choice is always relevant. You are making those saved into people who no longer have the ability to really love God because there is no choice anymore. Why did God purpose such and see it as good? You are not responding to this line of questioning. If God wants people who have no choice, why was it good and willed by Him in the 1st place? The saved are nothing more than mindless slaves void of choice rather than children of God who do have choice. You are side-stepping the fundamental facts of life itself and without biblical support. There is a reason you are not using scriptures.* Think in terms of an angel in heaven. Can an angel kill another angel? Probably not. Can an angel steal from another angel? Probably not. Can an angel commit adultery with another angel? No, because all the angels are married to each other so they can have sex with each other if they want. There is no law that angels can't have sex with each other. *My thinking on the matter must also reflect what is actually written. I do not reason by focusing on what the bible does not say, reading between lines for another thought. What does an angels ability to kill or steal from another have to do with law given to people? Angels are not married to anyone unless the bible says so. Does it? Think about it, the sons of God… married to each other. I'm not even going to speak on sex because its so absurd but if you look at the reasoning of the Sadducees and Jesus regarding marriage and children, the absurdity of angelic sex should speak for itself (Luke **20:27**-36).*
Charlie Smith You spoke of many things. But now I would like for you to consider this: Zech 3: "3. Now Joshua was clothed in filthy garments and standing before the angel. 4 The angel said to those standing before him, “Remove his filthy garments.” Then he said to him, “See, I have caused your error* to pass away from you, and you will be clothed with fine garments.”*+ 5 So I said: “Let a clean turban be put on his head.”+ And they put the clean turban on his head and clothed him with garments; and the angel of Jehovah was standing nearby. 6 The angel of Jehovah then declared to Joshua: 7 “This is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘If you will walk in my ways and carry out your responsibilities before me, then you will serve as a judge in my house+ and take care of* my courtyards; and I will give you free access among these who are standing here.’" Not sure if you do, but many consider this to be a messianic prophecy and that Joshua here represents Jesus Christ. *No I do not. The chapter is about something and someone else.* But note that Joshua is a priest who is now becoming a king! The king-priest role is specific only to the second coming. Christ comes as a perfect sacrifice at the first coming, but as a king-priest like Melchizedek, by contrast at the second coming. Now focus on the symbolism of the clean robes. He appears first with filthy robes, but he is given new, clean ones, fine ones, "robes of state" and is told in connection with those robes, "See, I have caused your error to pass away from you, and you will be clothed with fine garments." *This precedes his service and appointment doesn't it? Did you notice how verses 3-5 come before verses 6-7? They do you know. Also, he was not appointed as king here. You are mistaken because that comes later, also for a specific reason. In chapter 6 he does represent Jesus…. at that time.* So the dirty robes represent that person's history of sin. *Come on, you made that up.* Joshua himself is coming from a very sinful life, but he is still chosen to be the messiah, represented by his old filthy robes and former sins being removed from him. *Joshua is coming from exile at Babel and not yet serving as High Priest anymore than he is clean. The bible said nothing of any sin nor forgiveness. As a priest, he did not serve in an approved or appointed state. God left the people. God appointed him after he was cleansed, same as Jesus in Hebrews which I'm advised you to review for refinement. His error in an unapproved state was taken from him if he chose to serve (now clean) after appointment in an approved state. Jesus was never in an unapproved state though he did not serve as High Priest until he ascended as Hebrews says. If you made a comparison here it would be a bad 1 no matter what. You are suggesting the unapproved state is 2nd but here it is 1st so it doesn't pan out.* Point again is this is a sinful messiah who gets new robes and is forgiven, but this is also at the time he is to become a king-priest, which relates to the 2nd coming. Now compare that to what happens to the prodigal son at Luke 15: *Jesus was never called sinful and your argument was that he wasn't because God excused the DEA agent Jesus, right? Joshua was not a priest nor upon a throne until after his cleansed state bum you say Jesus was sinless 1st then sinful 2nd which makes no sense in Zechariah or anywhere else.* "21 Then the son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you.+ I am no longer worthy of being called your son.’ 22 But the father said to his slaves, ‘Quick! bring out a robe, the best one, and clothe him with it, and put a ring on his hand and sandals on his feet. 23 Also bring the fattened calf, slaughter it, and let us eat and celebrate, 24 for this son of mine was dead but has come to life again;+ he was lost and has been found.’ And they started to enjoy themselves." Notice the parallel. The prodigal son returns and he is given the best robe, which would be the robe of the heir. There is a banquet in his honor given by the father, very similar to the father giving a banquet for his son's wedding which is connected to the "kingdom of the heavens" and the second coming. *Jesus needs to be sinful then forgiven of sin or something to that effect make any sense here. This account has nothing to do with Jesus coming. Jesus was already approved and appointed when he went up, but where's the banquet? He cannot serve in a defiled state yet he was already appointed. If he comes in a sinful state the bible is then a lie regarding his priesthood. Also, we'd need to see verses depicting him being defiled and forgiven and cleansed though already serving as High Priest. That goes down the dark road of blasphemy against the Spirit but it makes Hebrews a lie as I said before. That's why I said it was important to know 'when' and again I will say, review Hebrews and make the needed changes.* So based on the comparison, we have two examples of Christ using an imperfect body at the second coming. *The comparison was poor and anachronistic so the examples were not examples really.* The person chosen to embody the spirit of Christ in the earth at the second coming to accomplish this, is someone who had the life of the prodigal son, someone who loved God but left God and became dead. *Jesus did not leave God. Doing so would not even be forgivable being that Jesus was as sinless as Satan and to cross that line would make Jesus no different than Satan when he left God. Ezekiel was very informative on that series of events so how would any son of God be different?* But the prodigal son returns and when he does, God chooses him to become his messiah in the earth. *That story isn't told in the bible however. Jesus, like Jehu was chosen before his actual appointment and that story is told several times in both testaments. You are in need of refinement.* That moment of return of the prodigal son is the moment Joshua stands before the throne with befouled garments. The garments of the prodigal son are soiled with the dirt of pigs and so is the garments of Joshua. *The bible says no such thing of Joshua. You are out of sync with the order of events regarding Jesus' appointment and coming as well.* But he is the chosen one and so God forgives all his sins as the father forgives the sins of the prodigal son, who has now come back to life. *Jesus has no sins to forgive. That's why his blood has the value it possesses in the 1st place. For Jesus to ever be in a sinful state, having left, he would make Hebrews a lie, commit blasphemy against the Spirit and we'd still need the verses actually showing such a thing taking place. A parable isn't enough. Matthew 13 and 24 has the Revelation for example.* The fact that the pre-messiah, that is, the person into whom Christ dwells at the second coming ends up leaving God and dying spiritually is why he is called a CORPSE at Matthew 24: "28 Wherever the CARCASS is, there the eagles will be gathered together." *You are in a major up-hill battle proving this verse has anything to do with a pre-messiah which is itself not biblical, dying and being a corpse at Matthew **24:28**. Its such a bad theory, I see no point in even discussing it.* The "eagles" here are the select secret followers of Christ, represented by the woman who gives birth to the child who becomes the Christ. They know who this person is when he is born and at some point he becomes spiritually dead. He becomes the prodigal son. He becomes Jonah who also leaves God's will for a while. *The birds are literal as are the other animals who share in this feast (Ezekiel **39:17**). Using the whole bible is how the book interprets itself. You said "select" where Revelation **19:17** says "all" the birds. You trying to play a "this is spiritual but that is literal game" but I don't play those kind of games because the bible reveals what it means just fine without the outside noise. Sorry about that. :-(* But of course, in order for the messiah to be the prodigal son and Joshua with befouled garments and to be called a "carcass" due to his temporary spiritual death, he must be an imperfect man. Now this is NOT Jesus Christ who is Christ up in heaven. This is a reference to the person whom God uses to reintroduce Christ in a fleshly body at the second coming, the 2nd wave offering of a regular loaf from the house with leaven. *Your theory of a pre-messiah sounds more Gog though. You should try that. It sounds better and makes more sense (Ezekiel 39:2-5). Maybe Gog could be your prodigal son! Jesus is not part of any wave offering because he is High Priest. He would be the person waving an offering before God. Jesus is not wheat and bread is solely a reference to his body or government whom he shares with, not literal flesh. The sacrifice, thus presentation before God is as a lamb, not bread. See John 6 where his being bread was not about offerings. Leaven and bread is not about a carnal body, its about teachings throughout the bible (Matthew 4:4). You have erred in trying to match things that do not fit together by forcing interpretations poorly and ignoring the other scriptures on the subject. If that is what you choose to do, fine! To continue would be a waste of our time though.* So really, there is an abundance of scriptures before us that confirms that Christ will dwell in an imperfect body at the second coming, but it is not HIS body, but one in which he dwells. Christ himself is sinless and holy. *There is not 1 single verse making such confirmation and the very thought has too many problems.* This is why many people will miss the second coming entirely because they are expecting such a different return by Christ. His disciples were told not to keep looking up at the sky because Christ would return just as they saw him leave. *Yeah, in the same body he revealed to Thomas… with holes in it.* That means, the body or appearance that Jesus used the very last was the body he would use when he returned. Thus his disciples saw what he would look like when he came back at the second coming. *There is only 1 body until you show evidence of another directly from the scriptures.* Now remember, Christ does not put new wine into old wineskins. *So you missed the whole point of his saying that too. You mentioned the answer but not the question. Look at Matthew **9:14** and try to understand what the wine and winskins are all about. Or how about verse 15 where the question is answered with a question. The rhetorical question is quite revealing. Jesus is not talking about his flesh.* Many upon his return would choke on some of these things. *It does not make sense.* But even the foolish virgins get their lamps burning brightly eventually, even though their seats in the kingdom will by then have been given to others. *That's not quite how it works (Matthew **22:11**-14). Take special note of verse 14.* But Christ does not force this "new wine" understanding on those of his own who have such rigid ideas already about Christ and his return. This would burst them and destroy them. So it is not forced. The "new wine skins" can handle this though, because they don't have a lot of preconceived ideas that now have to be changed and corrected. So just as the new wine is not forced on to the old wineskins, it is not necessary to accept this interpretation, whether or not you believe it is the correct interpretation. *Interesting take on what Jesus actually said but no mention of the question. Really, its nice because at least you are making sense now whether right or wrong. Do you assume that you don't have preconceived ideas? Do you assume that you are not in need of refinement here? Where did you get the idea of "force" because you used it a few times? It is necessary to allow the bible to interpret itself by hearing the whole message. Cut and paste 1 or 2 ideas and ignore the rest allows for any story to be told. The sheer number of denominations is proof of this, no? There are children who listen to some of what their parents say, ignoring the rest but to what end? Some children hear what they want and tune the rest out but such a life is not void of its unnecessary problems is it? You have created unnecessary issues in your theory by not listening to the entire counsel of God before theorizing so strongly.* But do you get my drift here? *Yes I do. It is filled with problems though.* The "eagles" are chosen to know who the Christ is, who the new messiah is and the body he will be in. *Where is there verse that says any of this?* They surround that Christ, but they do so secretly. They know who the Christ is, but they tell no one. They do not reveal him. That's why the Bible says if someone claims "here he is" or "there he is over there...." you must not believe them. *You have taken great liberties here. Where are these birds depicted as people who keep secrets? Jesus at Matthew **24:24**-26 contrasts the secrets of fake prophets and anointed ones with publicity in verse 27! How are you not seeing that so as to say what you said?* Because Christ must arrive in secret first, like a "thief in the night" to the world before God reveals him. His secret followers, the "eagles" do not reveal him. *Where are birds called secret followers of Jesus? The bible does not say he comes 1st as a thief. You are trying to make a distinction where there is none. The bible says he comes as a thief. Matthew **24:27** makes it clear that his coming as a thief is by surprise. This is the context of verses 36-44. Its not a secret coming in that he is missed or unseen, its as a thief in that you simply don't know when he is coming. It will not be missed. Look at Revelation **16:12**-16 and explain how his coming is missed when even Satan and the demons know he has come (they are here at the time) and prepare the kings of the world for battle. Where is the espionage?* Notice how the woman in Revelation is given the "wings of the great eagle" (12:14). So the woman who gives birth to the imperfect Christ has a direct association with the Christ and surround him. *This would require the woman to be here at the time. She isn't though. The 1260 days are long past when Jesus comes. Notice that once Satan is thrown to the earth he goes after her initially but then focuses on her offspring those days, but why? She is kept from Satan and is next seen coming down from heaven in the end right (Revelation 21:2)? How does 1 come down unless 1 goes up?* Thus the "eagles" who surround the carcass represent the woman. *The Lion of Daniel 7 was given the wings of an eagle also… now what? Notice too that both are kingdoms.* When this pre-messiah becomes the prodigal son, of course, and dies spiritually, it is distressing to the woman, to the eagles, and that is why they are said to "beat themselves in lamentation" when they see him, since they see him as a dead Christ at the second coming. *You have placed the bible in a blender and made your own bible smoothie out of it sadly. The "they" who beats themselves see someone coming on the clouds with power and glory. Does that sound like someone who is dead to you? What power and glory is there in being dead and how is it that someone dead is coming on clouds at all? You went back to not making any sense again.* They undergo his death with him as they watch him leave God as the prodigal son, but rejoice when he returns and God reinitiates him as the chosen messiah. *It’s a nice story for a movie with no intent to bring the words of the bible to life on screen. You should send a script to that Downey lady who made that bible series and movie. Not a word of what you said is scriptural. You inserted so much unwritten opinion between verses that you have told a different story of your own entirely.* This is when Joshua appears with befouled garments. He is the pre-messiah about to become one with the messiah in heaven. That's how Jesus Christ becomes an imperfect man at the second coming, he has to use the bod of one of his followers. *Lol. Ok. Joshua was not appointed at the time. Jesus has already been appointed and began serving 19+ centuries ago!* Now this might not be an interpretation you are able to accept. But based on world events, with the UN about to take over world government and event that occurs shortly after the messiah returns at the 2nd coming, it would appear, more than likely, Christ has already arrived. And if so, some of the elect would already be aware of that as they would have witnessed the second coming. But this light is a very bright light, if you get my drift. But maybe some outsiders can see the light. *Haaa. That's rich! The UN is about to fall not take over the world. It’s a helpless paper tiger with no teeth! Interpretations I accept are biblical because they take the entire message into account. When Jesus comes even the wicked will know, not just the elect (Matthew **26:64**; Revelation 1:7, **6:15**-17).* One wave offering with and one without leaven. The FIRST is without, all about UN-leavened bread. But the second is WITH leaven. It's simple, but profound and so different, it is impossible to believe unless God's holy spirit opens ones eyes to see it. *The bread is about teachings, not flesh. Jesus, as the Lamb, is High Priest already so he cannot be a wave offering. There is a wave offering of the people which the priests ate the holy portion. There is also the offering made by the priests or High Priest. Where does this fit your claims? You have not taken the whole bible into account and have erred in doing so, making parts of the bible false and anachronistic. You also cannot offer examples from scripture without adding so much of your own opinion and interpretation. Your theory is impossible to believe with Holy Spirit. Perhaps God will open your eyes. Your theories are near blasphemy.*
There is not a German version of the video I did for Daniel 8. Here is the link to the German version of the Daniel 7 video. th-cam.com/video/OomjnO75M-Y/w-d-xo.html
Why would you say the temple that is to be built a holy place? Are we not told that we are the temple of god not built with hands of man but of our Lord Jesus Christ? How can you explain calling this new temple holy? This sounds like you are replacing what the new meaning of temple is currently back to prior of the revealing of Jesus Christ and his Holy people. Maybe your interpretation is incorrect and we can think this attack and dictatorship is actually on the image of God in man. Just a thought. Enjoying finding these videos and very thankful for your hard efforts of study.
Time is measured as set forth in Genesis, the evening and morning combined were one day. So the best I can say is 2300/360=6.38 Years. Mark starts this some months after the start of Daniel's 70th Week but I hold with Larkin who starts at the desecration of the temple since the vision seems to be only concerned with the taking away of the sacrifice (8:12-13) and not the starting up of the sacrifices. This pushes the cleansing of the temple several years into the Millennium which is not a problem. There is a temple described in scripture not built by Zerubbabel not rebuilt/improved by Herod the Great. It will not be the next temple either but one build, most likely, in the Millennium and will need to be cleansed.
Thanks for all. Wonderful. Some questions please... Would the rapture occur before, or after the Great Tribulation?, 2) Do you have some classes that you hold to go in-dept in these teachings? Thanks :)
The Rapture Gathering Up together with the Dead in Christ at the First Resurrection When Jesus Christ Said Immediately after the Tribulation of those Days before the Wrath of the Lamb Jesus Christ. Ezekiel 37:1-14. Daniel 12:1-4. Matthew 24:29-31. Mark 13:24-27. Luke 21:25-28. 1 Corinthians 15:50-55. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. Revelation 6:10-17. Revelation 11:1-19. Revelation 20:1-6. The Marriage Supper of the Lamb Jesus Christ Revelation 19:1-10. The Return of Jesus Christ and the Saint's Revelation 19:11-21. God Bless you
@@JamieElison good Question ❓ for someone who has said We are going to Heaven ! But you must have me confused with another, I didn't say We are going to Heaven ! On the other hand I have said Many times as the Word of God and Jesus Christ Say's The Dead in Christ Rise First and are Changed Transformed into Eternal Physical Body of Flesh Bone and Spirit Forever and then We which Remain Alive are in the Twinkling of the Eye Changed Transformed into Eternal Physical Body of Flesh Bone and Spirit Forever and Gathered Up Together with the Dead in Christ to Meet Him in the Air Cloud's of Heaven to Return with Him for the Wrath of the Lamb Jesus Christ and to Rule and Reign with Him for a Thousand Year's over the Nation's of People with a Iron Rod from Jerusalem Israel ! There are many Scriptures that say that ; I'll get you a Few of them ! Daniel 12:1-4. Ezekiel 37:1-14. The Dry Bones. Matthew 24:29-31. Mark 13:24-27. Luke 21:7-28. 1 Corinthians 15:50-55. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. Revelation 6:10-17. Revelation 11:1-19. The Two Prophet's of God and Jesus Christ are Raised from the Dead and Raptured Up to Meet Him Jesus Christ In the Cloud's of Heaven. Revelation 14:9-20. Revelation 19:1-21. Also John 13:36- threw 14:1-6. Have fun with these ! God Bless you
@@JamieElison remember God told you in Genesis Who the Beast will come from, God Said Ismael is like a Wild Beast and will have his Hand's Against All Nation's as he does in Islam the Antichrist Beast government Religion for the End of Day's Army of Darkness, the Simple Family Fued between Ismael and Issac and Jacob Israel and Essua Islam against Israel and the Entire World ! Really very Simple My Friend God Bless you
The Rapture is in Revelation 11:1-19. The Two Prophet's of God and Jesus Christ are Raised from the Dead and Stand on their Feet and Ascend into the Cloud's of Heaven to Meet Him Jesus Christ in the Air Cloud's of Heaven ! The Rapture Gathering Up Together with the Dead in Christ !
Kudos, most people don’t pick up on Daniel’s visions being the same vision from different perspectives. If it is of any help to you or anyone else, I give you these insights that I have had: 1. The great and terrible visage in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream is the same as the beast which “Babylon the Great” rides on in the book of Revelations. 2. The “Anti-Christ” will come from the area of the Seleucid Empire, not Russia. He requires a ready following of anti-Christs who are willing to die for him without question. 3. The “Abomination of Desolation” spoken of by Christ, happened when the Romans burned the Jerusalem Temple down. This refers to any time that an abomination (in this case a degenerate kingdom) stands in a holy place where it aught not. In the case of the Temple in Jerusalem, Rome (a degenerate kingdom) thought to supplant the Jewish religion by destroying their Temple and scattering their people. This will happen again, not to the Jews but rather the Gentiles. This is the first of your videos I've seen, it helped me out with the 4 horns springing up. I couldn't seem to find information about 4 leaders taking power after Alexander. I don’t know why, maybe I had the wrong search word something.
could you please explain why was the roman empire a "degenerate kingdom" .. it seems a bit of an exaggeration, do you know the meaning of "degenerate"?
Islam the Last Kingdom of Babylon Iron and Miry Clay Feet is Iron Weapons of War and Miry Clay Feet is Man male and female Islam using Hijrah Imagination Refugees and Mass Migration and Breeding Children to take over from Within Your Replacement's and New Master's, as Islam is the only people Still Breeding and having Children today in the Entire World, everyone else is Extinct and Must be Replaced by Hijrah Imagination Refugees and Mass Migration By Islam
Hola My Bross,Mr Mark gracias por tan excelentes vídeos, WoW¡ han sido de gran ayuda para mi en mis estudios Teológicos, Felicitaciones, pero tengo problemas con el idioma ,hay algunos vídeos que no están en español, I Dont Speak Enghlis, y me cuesta entenderlo si es cierto hay muchos otros vídeos de otros canales en español, pero me gusta su canal y en la forma que usted explica los libros de la Biblia, pueden por favor subir mas traducidos al spanish thank you God bless you
Gracias por tu comentario. Estoy feliz porque disfrutas los videos. Yo no hablo español. Google traduce para mí. Tengo 3 videos en español en TH-cam. También tengo artículos de blog en español. Aquí está el enlace a ellos. www.propheciesofdaniel.com/es/ Toma mucho tiempo hacer un video en español. Quizás los videos en inglés se traducirán al español por TH-cam. Investigaré esto.
This is not the true prophecy. In the Bible 1 prophetic day is equal to 1 literal year. Therefore, 2300 days here it means 2300 years which period is 457 BC (Persian period) to 1844 Ad when Jesus enter the most holy place in the heavenly sanctuary
Uncle mark mcmillion, How could you say that the little horn (which is actually coming-out of 3rd beast Greece kingdom) in 8th chapter is The Antichrist if actually the Antichrist comes out of the 4th beast as a little horn & becomes strong? I really don't believe that little horn in chapter 8 is the same one as little horn of the beast in Revelation (or) 4th beast. Pls give me reply
Thanks for your comment. You are correct; Antiochus IV Epiphanies around the year 167 BC stopped sacrifices in the temple in Jerusalem and there sacrificed a pig on the altar. But then, nearly 200 years after that, Jesus of Nazareth was speaking about the final days before His second coming and He said, “When you shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place, whoso reads, let him understand.” (Matthew 24:15) Therefore we know from the teachings of Christ that what Antiochus IV Epiphanies did in 167 BC was not the final and ultimate fulfillment of the prophecies of the abomination of desolation and the man of sin, the antichrist. Because Jesus put this event in the future to come. Also Paul in II Thessalonians 2 spoke of a future event of the antichrist sitting in the temple of God. Antiochus IV Epiphanies was a foreshadowing of the final Antichrist to come, a partial fulfillment but not the final one. About the beasts, in Daniel 8 there are two beasts, not 4. Daniel 8 verse 9 says “out of one of them came forth a little horn”, in other words out of one of the four divisions of the empire of Alexander the Great, after his death and when it was divided between his four generals. It was speaking geographically, that the AC would come from one of the four divisions of Alexander’s empire. And much of the area of the Roman Empire and the Empire of the Greeks was the same area. So there is no conflict or contradiction here. In Daniel 8 three specific times the angel says to Daniel that these events are at the time of the end. So it is not talking about Antiochus IV Epiphanies. I have made a 10 minute video on this subject, you might find it interesting. Many people have this question that you are mentioning and at one point some years ago it was much more of a doctrine that people held to, about Antiochus IV Epiphanies being the fulfillment. Here is the link to the video, thanks again for your comment. Your friend, Mark th-cam.com/video/WluxN5zD6Gg/w-d-xo.html
@@markmcmillion1 lies lies and more lies daniel chapter 8 9 10 11 12 was all about antichous epiphany which was the 3 beast kingdom but the other little horn for daniel chapter 7 is about the little horn which is the pope where is the history for that in the bible o you people take it out
@@evettebrummell1836well if he's lying to you.. put up the beginning and the ending date of antiochus of epiphanies.!!! We're going to see who is lying ..I understand what the 2,300 days mean ..this guy didn't even write it down! But he let you know that he does understand!
The lion with eagle's wings an the eagles wings were plucked up and made to stand, and give a man's heart. 1776. The bear lays on one side look at the map .three ribs ..how many ribs does he have in his mouth right now.? Google the leopard in front of the u.n.. Daniel 7 kingdoms happened from verse 41 down to the end. Of Daniel 2 the Kings!
Hi Mark, what justifies in Daniel 8 to apply it to a future Antichrist rather than Antiochus Epiphanies who literally came out of the Seleucids greek empire?
For one, as I brought out in this video, the angel told Daniel, “I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be”. Antiochus Epiphanes was not at the end. Here is a separate, smaller video I made that covers this exact subject you are bringing up. th-cam.com/video/WluxN5zD6Gg/w-d-xo.html
@@markmcmillion1 OK, I'll check that out, but as I was reading in a well known commentary by Joyce Baldwin, the end doesn't seem to refer to the end of all things, but rather to answer the question asked a little earlier in verse 13 "Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled-the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, the surrender of the sanctuary and the trampling underfoot of the Lord’s people?” Blessings to you and thanks for sharing.
@@andrefavreau9818Matthew 24:3 the( end of the world )that was the question.. to the( abomination of desolation) Matthew 24:15 the (transgression of desolation )the same thing Daniel 8:13!
@@andrefavreau9818there is only one Vision in Daniel 8-12 ! And it Ends with the Saints being Glorified and the Lord's Return to Rule for a Thousand Year's over the Nation's of People with a Iron Rod !
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. The Man of Sin the Son of Perdition is Revealed Sitting in the Temple Showing Himself that he is God In his own Time. 6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time. The Moadeam Appointed Time's Appointed By God and Jesus Christ.
The goat is Greece, according to what the angel said, the “great horn” was said to be the first king of Greece and the Ram was said to be the kingdom of Persia. But then, as I explained in the video, there is a jump or transition to the final days, the same way it happens in Daniel 7.
The Man of Sin the Son of Perdition is Revealed Sitting in the Temple Showing Himself that He is God In His Own Time, His Own Appointed Time Appointed by God and Jesus Christ
so the last beast is Rome mixed with clay? what does the clay represent? And what happens in the first 3.5 years of the last week? Thanks Im learning alot!
No Not at all as the Romans are Extinct, They No longer exist , and the Italians are Extinct as well as they Refuse to Breed and have Children so they are Extinct and being Replaced by Hijrah Imagination Refugees and Mass Migration and Breeding Children by the only people Still Breeding and having Children today Islam ! Everyone else is Extinct ! The Last Kingdom of Babylon Iron and Miry Clay Feet is Iron Weapons of War and Miry Clay Feet is Man male and female Islam using Hijrah Imagination Refugees and Mass Migration and Breeding Children to take over from Within, your Replacement's and New Master's, for the End of Day's Army of Darkness from Every Nation to Invade Israel to Stop the Sacrifices and take over the Temple and to Kill the Two Prophet's of God and Jesus Christ
Only one group of people Still Breeding and having Children today in the Entire World Islam your Replacement's and New Master's for the End of Day's Army of Darkness Carrying Black Flag's with one word Punishment
Sorry if that’s not clear, this is all going to be tackled in the two large videos I will be working on in the first half of 2014, having to do with Daniel 9. I definitely believe in the Rapture, a “post tribulation” one, after the 3½ years of great tribulation but before the wrath of God. Thanks for asking and for your interest, GBY, Mark
Mark I respectfully disagree. Its possible that your interpretation is a type or shadow of the visions final revelation. I see what you are saying, but in verses 17,19 and 26 we are told that the vision was to be fulfilled at the time of the end and Daniel was to seal up the vision. I know that ther are many Bible teachers that teach what you do. The Spirit leads me to believe that the ram said to be the kings of the Medes and the Persians is in reference to the spiritual realm. I believe God is teaching about the two witnesses. I may be alone in this belief, but I truly believe this. I have never heard a bible teacher ask this question. Why does Daniel not mention the two witnesses? When revelation makes it clear that they definitely fit into the time of the end. Daniel, more than any other prophet is incredibly detailed. How is it possible that he would miss these key players at the time when the final curtain is raised? Furthermore, I believe that the two witnesses are the evening sacrifice! You have studied secular history well, I challenge you as a brother in Christ, to do an in-depth study on the morning and the evening sacrifice. Why would the vision as you portray, make Daniel physically sick? I believe the fulfillment of this vision during the tribulation period will make the God fearing sick, just as the crucifixion of the savior did. I would be interested in anyone that can explain how your view of this vision is sealed. In what way? I'm just saying, it doesn't add up. Shalom!
Jim, thanks for your comments. A while back, I wrote an article called “Sound Doctrine? Or Speculation” It sort of sums up my approach to teaching these things. My aim is to try to cleave towards what can be hoped to be sound doctrine in these videos. There’s so much around that is basically the speculations of one teacher or the other. But so many people are looking for fundamentals and what are the basics concerning Bible prophecy, things that have been the main line views of Christians for many hundreds of years. I appreciate your views and suggestions. For now I feel I need to make these things to be as much as possible “sound doctrine” but I’m glad to hear the ideas and possibilities that others share. Thanks and God bless you, Mark
Mark, im all for sound doctrine teaching. I believe doctrine and dogma are important when we are dealing with the principles of our salvation. But this vision given to Daniel is one of the most difficult parables in the Bible. This should be openly discussed among the body of Christ. It does say that in a multitude of councillors there is safty. We should hear all takes on this subject as long as the scripture lends to it. It would be so much simpler if God would just but it in terms that a child could get every idea that is in His word, but without a parable the Lord did not speak. So this is why we need to study the whole council of God. We should as christians be always ready to ask and answer questions. I see that spirit in you. So I thank you. But many of the believers are not so inclined. I believe this was a problem also in Jesus day. Its clear that it was. Did the deciples rigidly view the scripture? I think not, otherwise they would have missed the messiah as the Pharisees did. We know in part, therefore we must test every spirit.thank you for taking the time to respond. You do yoursef credit. May God bless you and yours, my brother!
Jim Frugia Daniel 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings. I watched till its wings were plucked off; and it was lifted up from the earth and made to stand on two feet like a man, and a man’s heart was given to it. Notice that what Daniel saw was a winged lion initially, then Daniel says as hes watching, it starts to change. Its wings were taken and it was made to stand up like a man and given a heart of a man. Why did he see a change and what does that mean? In the previous post, the opposite was said about the tree that Nebuchadnezzar had a vision of. The tree was the king and it was given the heart of a beast in place of the heart of a man, now the beast is being given the heart of a man. In Jeremiah 25:9 God makes it clear that He has chosen Nebuchadnezzar to be His servant in place of the kings of Judah, this is a change. So at this time, God has taken this winged lion and had it quickly over throw nation after nation across the middle east as far as Egypt as Jeremiah prophesied in chapter 25. So we can see that this beast was given the heart of a man in place of the heart of a beast as Babylon was doing Gods will 70 years. With the tree you can see that Nebuchadnezzar had been given everything by God and now the king has chosen to become prideful so that God took everything from him and humbled him. Therefore the king or tree lost its heart of a man and was given the heart of a beast. Was this the only change? In Daniel 7 he saw another change take place. He saw a 4th beast with 10 horns but then he saw another horn appear with eyes and a mouth. In this change he not only saw an 11th horn but this smaller horn grew larger than all other horns and plucked up 3 of the 10 horns. This is one of the reasons Daniel was particularly interested in this 4th beast. The ultimate change in this vision was that this 4th beast along with the others have their dominion taken away from them and give to the son of man and the saints to rule. 2 years later Daniel has another vision in Babylon about a ram and a goat, this is one more layer to the previous layers of chapters 2, 4 and 7. Daniel once again notices a change taking place within his vision of beasts just like his previous vision of beasts. He saw a ram with a 2nd horn that was larger than the first horn. Gabriel tells him in Daniel 8:20 that this is Media and Persia. Even tho it's not needed at this point, the bible once again is making it clear that prophets who see visions of beasts are actually seeing governments of the world. Gabriel says in verse 21 of Daniel 8 that the goat is Greece and the first horn is its first king. He goes onto explain that 4 more horns came out of that first horn and that this first horn was broken as soon as it brought down the Ram. World history tells us that as soon as Alexander the 3rd, king of Greece, four of his generals took his place and divided the kingdom of Greece into 4 parts. This happened as soon as Alexander defeated Persia and immediately died at Babylon July 323BCE. That's 2296 years ago exactly when this little horn came out of Greece. As these 4 kingdoms battle with one another the Macedonian horn has another horn rise out of it. This horn grew larger than the others and overthrew them all absorbing all of Greece. This is Greco Roman history and the rise of Iron. So the focus of Daniel's vision is the goat and its first and last horn. Daniel focus much on this final horn and what it does in verses 9-12 in Daniel 8. So the 2 seraphim that were speaking to one another were also wondering about this little horn. And the question that one asked another was not only what this horn was doing but more importantly, how long is it going to go on. This is a chronology question, how long this happens is as important as what is happening. So Gabriel explains the vision to Daniel. He says at the end of their kingdom, this final king is going to rise up. This is a dual vision. How do we know it's a dual vision? When Daniel saw the vision in verses 9-12 in chapter 8, the horn was successful at defeating the host, the prince of the host and destroying the sancuary. The horn was successful at everything it did against Gods place and His ppl. When Gabriel interprets the vision, he starts by saying that this is about the time of the end in verse 17. Tho this horn was successful in the vision, it is not successful in the interpretation given by Gabriel. So when you compare Daniel 8:10-12 with verse 25 it is clear that the exact opposite is happening with these 2 verses rather than the same thing. So either Daniel saw the opposite of what Gabriel explains meaning Gabriel was wrong, or Gabriel is revealing that these events take place twice but with 2 different outcomes. This is a dual prophecy. One of many that happens in the bible. So what does this look like? When Rome rose up in the battle of Tarentum, Rome began its war against Greece after coming out of Greece. Rome would bring down Greece all the way down to its last kingdom belonging to Ptolemy in Egypt. As Rome now became world Power, this horn was now a great horn as Daniel 9 says and then it went up against Jerusalem. In verse 10 of Daniel 8, Rome began its attack on Jesus and his apostles defeating them all, the prince and his host. By verse 11 Rome had also brought down the sanctuary in 7BCE. By verse 12 the transgression of this horn was responsible for the martyrdom of many Christians. And throwing truth to the ground, Rome was successful in every detail Daniel saw. This is not what Gabriel interprets however. Gabriel says they are at the end of their kingdom in his interpretation. He says the king will rise up against the prince of princes with a different outcome from what Daniel saw. So in the rematch or antitype, l the horn is broken by the prince rather than being successful as he was in the past according to Daniel 8:23-25. Gabriel reminds you of what the seraphim said about the vision, the chronology is as important as the events taking place. Daniel 8:14 is where the seraph says it is "for 2300 evening morning, then the sancuary will be cleansed". Gabriel says this is true in verse 26 and tells Daniel to seal up the vision reminding him that this is for the time of the end. So this vision is about the cleansing of the sancuary and its restoration. As these beasts have been changing from the very first beast Daniel saw, they are still changing down to the last beast. This goat began as Greece and Rome emerged as a small horn out of Greece. Does the change stop there? Because this is a dual prophecy that refers to the time of the end and Rome is no more, there was clearly another change that happened within this goat. As Daniel saw Greece and Rome in previous chapters, this small horn on this Roman beast in Daniel 7 is doing the exact same thing when layered on top of the little horn in Daniel chapter 8. Both horns start out little, they are the final horns seen both times, and what makes them notable is their attack on Gods ppl. As Rome no longer exists in the form Daniel saw in chapter 8:9-12, what Gabriel explains in verses 23-25, is the antitype or what is left of Rome when it changed. As with chapter 7 in the 4th beast, we again see a change from Greece to Rome to the split of Rome leaving Great Britain to come out of Rome with Rome's power and America out of it. So Romes Iron kingdom has ultimately passed on to its 3rd generation which is America. As Gabriel said, the chronology is true. The war against Gods ppl is coming, and the sancuary will be cleansed...........😊
@@tonya.vahle80Daniel 7 was written after Daniel 8. If you understand the first verse in Daniel 8 and you do a lot of study you're going to see that I told you the truth.and you got chicken soup for what you're trying to put there.
No Temple, No Sacrifice's, No Return of Jesus Christ ! 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. The Man of Sin the Son of Perdition is Revealed Sitting in the Temple Showing Himself that He is God ! In His Own Time, His Own Time Appointed by God and Jesus Christ
@@JamieElison Daniel is Written for the Future for Everyone that will be here to Go through the Tribulations of those Day's before the Lord Jesus Christ Return's, which He does By the End of Daniels Vision , Only one Vision in Daniel, All the way to Daniel 12. Which is the Resurrection and the Glorification of the Saints
@@scott596 Daniel was written to Daniel's people.. Daniel 9 tells you to Daniel's people! (Daniel 12 is written to the) children )of Daniel. !!!The Great tribulation happens. They are the( elect )you're not the elect..!. that's not you..! but if you want to go through it.. go ahead! the Christians are not going to go through it!
After crying out to the Lord in prayer I raised up my Bible and I asked the Lord to speak and he spoke first Read: Matthew 24:4 and I read on till verse 51. Then I paused and consider these deep words in my heart. As I open the Bible and the second book Mark was conveniently in place starting in the book of Daniel chapter 7 verse 9. I continued on reading all the way up to chapter 8 Vision of the ram and a goat. And then I paused again and prayed and considered it in my heart I asked Lord please help me understand such deep words and parables. And I came across your teaching this Bible study of yours was so deep in dissecting the The word of God that your lessons and explanation made it so simple for me to follow through and understand more clearly. I thank the Lord for such a beautiful intervention personally for me by guiding me to your video this was very Significant but mainly supernatural and I thank the Lord for you Mark! bless you and your ministry I pray for your strength and you’re covering to continue on in Jesus Name!
Thanks for sharing that with me. I’m so glad the Lord answered your prayers and that He even led you to one of my videos, very encouraging for me.
THIS WAS SO IMPACTFUL, POWERFUL AND SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND, I BLESS GOD FOR THE GIFT HE HAS BLESS YOU WITH... EVERYONE THAT HAS AND UNDERSTANDING CAN UNDERSTAND THIS TEACHING🇧🇸
Dear Mark, Thank you for your Bible teaching. Your emphasis on making it simple enough for a beginner in prophecy makes it so easy to listen to. May the Lord bless you.
God bless you, our group are studying Daniel Ch 8, this has been a blessing.
Thank you for this Series! It’s so great and informative! ✝️🙏🏾
Thank you for giving such profound and concise clarity on this chapter. I might add that your voice, tone and the manner of which you spoke made it easier to follow along.
I thought I’d never be able to understand it… thank you!🙏🏾 Keep allowing God to use you
Thanks for your comment, I’m glad to know the videos are a blessing to you.
I’ll always be amazed to how accurate this is to our time period. God always amazes me
Thank you so so much for this great series of lessons on the Book of Daniel - a book very difficult to understand. Looking forward to more of your teachings. God bless you!! 🙏
Mark, thank you for taking the time to break down a chapter that has previously left me a bit scrabbled over the last few weeks. You speak with clarity and offered a clear expository detailing the areas that you felt will also be made clear over time. May His peace and revelation be with you.
Sharlette Reid Thanks for your comment, glad to know the video was a blessing to you.
Mark McMillion I think people fail to use the KEY in Daniel 7 and 8. They must be overlapped on a map. If the Little Horn is to arise out of the Revived Roman Empire/European Union/Fourth Beast in chapter 7 and then he is also to arise out of one of the FOUR HORNS in the LATTER TIME..........Then all we have to do is take a map of the four offshoots of Alexander the great and overlap it on a map of the Roman Empire/Revived Roman Empire.( European Union )
The only country that overlaps both Kingdoms is Greece.
I think God plainly reveals to us that the Anti-Christ will come out of two kingdoms, and the only country that fits both profiles is Greece.
Great teaching by the way.
I would assume with you knowledge you would be a pre/mid ( which is really pre) trib guy. But I have been wrong before, lol.
God Bless.
Thank you for this! Amazing. I had no idea how these times and these people fit together. You included so many additional interesting facts, as well.❤
Your teaching is highly anointed .Glory to Jesus.
Glad it was a blessing to you. More videos are on the way, hopefully within a month.
Thank you for these videos. Really helping me to understand book of Daniel. Going to show my family these as well
Amazing, I read chapter 1 through 7 by myself, the prints are so small, so I thought to find an audio recording of chapter 8 on you tube and i stumbled to this, wow wow how you broke it down n brought it to live, I am blessed n scared at the same time. God bless you sir..
Thank you, and God bless you!!
Thank you so much Mark. You describe this book so eloquently it finally makes sense to me.
May God bless u dear Mark . All the video you have on Book of Daniel are so wonderful and very helpful . I will be watching the rest and watching again and again all . Bless u a lot !!!!!
These are wonderfully simplified.
Thank you for these, Mark.
GBY, bro!
I was listening to Alexander skourby reading Daniel 8 this morning right at the end your video popped up along with other versions . It was just like the Lord was pointing me to a more articulate understanding of these events.
I haven’t studied or listened to your excellent videos since I left peru some five years ago.
We are living in times of great confusion but your videos certainly clear up the fog.
Thank you for your insights into this important question.
Thanks for your comment, glad to know the videos are a blessing to you.
Well done, Mark
You've always opened my eyes Mr. McMillion and thank you for that.
Thanks for this end time insight and interpretation of Daniel 8 so accurately portrayed. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to your Daniel 9 video.
Thanks. I expect that the first of the supplementary videos to Daniel 8 will be out around early December. I will be working on the two Daniel 9 videos after new year.
Thanks for sharing, I'm looking forward to learning from the other video posts.
Thank you and God bless your efforts to teach! Finally, I have found an explanation I can understand. I’m grateful.
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Mr. McMillion I wanna thank you .. for your video here that lets us readers and Believers of the word and the Book of Daniel, understand what this all means and with out pictures and foresight its hard to see and understand with clarity...... Now I do ...And thank you...GOD.... Bless... In Jesus Mighty name.. AMen...
Thank you for these videos
Jesus appeared to me on a dream touched my shoulder gently woke me up and spoke these words: “Remember my last words before I went to heaven”.
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very good Mark i appreciate it many thanks
Yes Sir I watched your video. And your presentation is the nearest to my beliefs on this Danien 8th. I've heard various presenters, but indeed yours tops them all. Looking to see more of your bible study videos. Much love from Jamaica, 🇯🇲!!
This is pure gold dust! Please also make videos on "The Revelation".
Revelation and Daniel same thing
Thank you for clear and well processed flow of explanations! I would like use your videos in future! How can i contact you?
Titus Mutea You can reach me at mark@markmcmillion.com
Excellent teaching. I really enjoyed this. Thank you!!
Very good video, but comprises one major inaccuracy - minute 4:36 - ancient Macedonia wasn't "an area to the north of modern Greece", but its territory is located precisely IN northern modern Greece, and another inaccuracy linked with and preceding the first one I mentioned - minute 4:15 - where there's an allusion to (ancient) Greece, which would've been made up from only the southern city-states, while Macedonia would've been outside of it. Truly, ancient Greece wasn't "really a united kingdom", so either was it made up of only the city-states, while Macedonia was a Greek kingdom. Thank you!
Thanks, you’re right on that. I should have said that ancient Macedonia was part of what it now northern Greece. When Paul had a vision of the man of Macedonia in Acts 16:9, saying “Come over into Macedonia and help us”, Paul and his friends then went to Phillipi and then Thessaloniki, a major city in modern Greece. I do know that the borders of these countries and others in the region have changed over the centuries so that there’s some dispute about what exactly Macedonia is. But I see that you have a Greek name and that you study these things so I know you are right and I was less than accurate there. Thanks for your help.
Thanks for this great understanding, it has really enlightened me in the understanding of end times.. More grace sir
Dear Mark, thank you so much! May God continue to bless you with abundant wisdom to clearly and simple explanations of the mysteries and riddles of the bible which are way more then that. They are prophetic promises God will keep. His plans will come to pass exactly as He says they will. Let us obey His divine will for our lives. If anyone lacks wisdom...let him/her ask God who gives abundantly without our finding failure. For we are in a time when we need to help others understand what is to come and is now at our door step...Thank you; for clearly leading the way. It also encouraged me when you stated a couple of times that maybe it may be me and others who watched your videos to stand firm in our faith in Jesus Christ our LORD, the only begotten SON of GOD.
Thank you for your comments.
Mark McMillon, I admire that you are studying the scriptures and are trying to interpret Daniel's 2300 days prophecy and the 70 weeks. I believe the bible to be the true word of God and to be our guide to salvation. When interpreting the bible we do not force things to match what we believe to be true but we match things according to the scripture and we let the bible interpret itself, we should follow the things which are clearly given and try to match the ones we do not understand very well but without deviating what it is trying to show us. We should find the harmony between the scriptures and not our "own harmony". The bible is the PERFECT word of God and we have to go into deep study to find the truth. It is even necessary that if something seems to be out of harmony due to translations, to go to the original writings in hebrew, greek, arameic and find out what it is the real meaning or expression. Translations could be faulty but not the originals as they were written under the direct guidance and inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God. I have attached another interpretation of the 2300 and 70 week period and people should be the judge of what the Bible and History say and ask the Holy Spirit to guide them to the truth as the time is short before the return of Jesus.
th-cam.com/video/AU5Ml-jXWL0/w-d-xo.html PART 1
th-cam.com/video/H30WxwOKsQA/w-d-xo.html PART 2
I feel verse 10 and 11 are talking of the fallen angels? What do you think?
Revolution 12:4 the seventh King (for a short space of Revelation 17 verse 10 gets incarnated by the devil.) Which is the 2,520 days of Daniel 9:27. an the 8th that is not called a king in verse revelation..17: 11.. as it says he has but a (short time) when he is kicked out of heaven Revelation 12 ..Daniel 8:10!.
Please do it no for me so think about how much people finally might to understand those last times we are living, then using the wisdom of God to bless us
The presentation is very helpfull to me.I just discovered it and i need to thank you sir. Greetings from Romania!
Mr. Mark, thank you for the vivid explanation. God richly bless you and your family. We behold the Lamb for His glorious return. Jesus Christ our Redeemer come soon!!!
Is the little horn in Daniel 7 and Daniel 8 the same
The simple answer is yes.
This was 8 years ago! How relevant is GOD’s WORD wow!
Thank you! See u in heaven my friend!
The daily sacrifice is the daily praise and glory of Yahweh from believers!
God bless you for doing this!!
Thank you for a great interpretation of Daniel anymore videos mark Rocky uk
Mark, this is a very good teaching of Daniel chapter 8, but I was a little surprised when you came to verses 9 through 14. I realize that there is obviously a future fulfillment of the abomination of desolation, but it was also fulfilled by Antiochus Epiphanes, who was the horn coming out of one of the four horns on the goat. Antiochus desecrated the temple with a pig, and placed a statue of Zeus in the temple. A little over three years later the Maccabean revolt occurred, and the Jews took back control of the temple and cleansed and dedicated it. Hanukkah is celebrated to commemorate that feast of dedication. God bless!
Thanks for your comment. Yes, Antiochus Epiphanies was a “type and shadow”, a partial fulfillment of the verses that will have their final fulfillment in the Antichrist of the endtime. I know some Bible teachers and even Bibles themselves say that the verses in Daniel 8 had their full and final fulfillment at the time of the Maccabees. Actually, I made another video specifically on this subject as it is a bit of a special one to me. It’s called “Some say the Antichrist has already come”. I hope it will be of interest to you, here’s the link to that: www.propheciesofdaniel.com/antichrist-already-come/
Mark McMillion Thanks Mark. I am definitely not a preterist. I believe the Antichrist is about to take his place on the world scene. The signs are all around us right now that the tribulation period is about to begin. I make videos on my channel, and I moderate a forum called Watchmen On The Wall Forum. God bless!
you are a fabulous teacher....Toda....
Very good and inspiring! Thank you!
Wow thanks very much for this.
Thanks for your interest. On my web site, “ProheciesofDaniel”, there’s a recent blog post called “What’s Next For Me”. In that post is the list of videos I am working on right now and more or less when I will aim to get going on the Daniel 9 video. I’m really looking forward to it, God bless you. Mark
Thanks Mark, really great! I have a question: it seems to me that especially in light of recent events that Turkey rather than Egypt might play an important role in the rise of the Anticrist. The Ottoman Empire, which came out of the east Roman empire has been an Anticrist Empire for centuries and all that is happening in the area there and the feelings which are erupting from Turkey, the creation of Isis and all the mess there in Siria, seems to have a very Anticrist smell. In chapter 8 verse 9 there is no reason why the little horn (let's say it spring in Turkey ) could not grow great toward the south, the east and the pleasant land, it daes not duplicate the indications as the "pleasant land" is a bit more south-east from Instambul. What I mean is the things are happening right there right now, with tensions, whole armies and what not ready to made the general situation a "good set up" for the little horn to rise and gain power with the help of 10 kings...
i agree. the initial appearance of the liitle horn in chpt 8 refers to the initial set up of the empire, circa 1000 AD or whenever it was. And the later rise amongst the 10 horns refers to the latter reincarnation of the empire via a coaliton of 10 kings which we are expecting to happen anytime now. looking to the middle east.
Mark thank you for such clear and simplifed teaching.
The Antichrist comes from the iron kingdom aka Rome and the iron remains in the feet so clearly the metal DID NOT CHANGE and is still ROME mingled with miry clay.
My bro, the bible says, "the path of the righteous is like the morning sun shining ever brighter till the full light of day. Proverbs 4:18. We may not at this point in our spiritual quest and growth, see eye to eye in all things, but if we continue to eat the little book out of the angels hand. Rev.10:8--11, our eyes will be opened so that we may all prophesy again. So let's continue feeding and sharing and the Lord will work his will in and through us.🙏📖🙏📖🙏📖🙏📖🙏📖
Amen and amen.
Thank you for the video Mr Mark
The book of Daniel(prophecy) uses a day-year principle so when it talks about 2300 days, that is actually 2300 years.
Thats the honest principle in relation to bible prophecy timeline. I hope Teacher Mark does recognize that. If not he will not be able to pinpoint events spot on such as Daniel 9 prophecy of 70weeks which translates to 490 years which details the annoiting of Jesus ministry and close of jewish probation
@@sefatsakhauta2849 so you're saying that the he of Daniel 9 27. And the he of Daniel 11:21. The guy ( the Prince of the the covenant ) Daniel 11:22.(that wins the kingdom by flattery's is Jesus Christ?) That does the abomination of desolation in Daniel 11:31 in the same abomination of desolation in Daniel 9:27 you're saying that's Jesus Christ? That Jesus is speaking of in Matthew 24:15..
It follows the day principles of Gen. 1
@@thegrand4965 you are correct !but what do the 2300 days. Pretend to?
@@thegrand4965 you are correct! but what do the 2300 days ,pertain to?
Mark is quite accurate with the Daniel prophecy lessons in his videos. "And they that understand among the people shall be strong and do exploits". And yes, we do understand what Jesus tells us through His prophets of the Endtime which is now! You will see Jesus coming soon in the Clouds of Heaven as I drew in a color crayon picture in the first grade when I was only 7 years old. Jesus chose me to know of His return so that you can know too.
Thank you for this teaching. Russ from Oregon
Mr. McMillion. I am studying the book of Daniel right now. It is my understanding that the Little Horn of Chapter 7 is different from the Little Horn of Chapter 8. The Little Horn of Chapter 7 is the Antichrist and the Little Horn of Chapter 8 is referring to Antiochus IV Epiphenes. You made no mention of Antiochus in the video so do you not believe that the Little Horn of Daniel Chapter 8 is referring to him? Your video does an excellent job of bringing everything down to a very comprehensible level for people to understand. I really enjoyed it.
+Beth Baugher I believe the little horn in Daniel 7 & 8 are both prophesying the same endtime Antichrist. Here’s a link to a short video on TH-cam I made specifically on this subject, a supplementary video to Daniel 8.
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Beth Baugher and I also thought the best was Russia.. i'm confused.. sheeesh... i'm sitting too...i need help.. i've heard so many different versions.. it's crazy.. but I do know one thing Jesus never changes!!! amen no matter what we hear from different people we need to ask our father to confirm things
There is nothing to be confused about. .Best thing to do - don't impose assumptions into the text. The goat unambiguously refers to Alexander the Great and the Greek empire.
The anti-Crist is not a man, but a spirit. you are correct that the little horn is Antiochus IV Epiphanes. Please listen to this recording from a conference call i have with my brothers governed by Christ. Thank you. soundcloud.com/israelinchrist144/the-abomination-of-desolation-of-the-christian-church-daniel-8
and i thought that a day was equal to a years that what Gabriel said is calculation is wrong
Shalom shalom, Why don't you have that video in Spanish like the chapter 2 and 7 ?? That's will be good and blessed. So I hope you for 8,9,10, 11,12. Thanks
The only argument non believers give is to say it must of been written after the fact.
Thank you very much sir.
Nice intro
marcello m, You are way out in left field!
Wonderfully explained
Well done.
God bless you.
Yes this is much needed
God bless you too!
thank you.
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out את eth-my RUACH upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out את eth-my RUACH. And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of YAHUAH come. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of YAHUAH shall be delivered: for in Mount Tsiyon and in Yerushalayim shall be deliverance, as YAHUAH has said, and in the remnant whom YAHUAH shall call. YO'EL (JOEL) 2:28-32 את CEPHER
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@@markmcmillion1 thanks a ton.😀
Haven't heard back from you in a while, hope things are going well with your mom. I mentioned working on some videos and I forgot to get back in touch to let you know they are done. Feel free to take a look as I go into more detail than I ever could in a comment or two. Let me know what you think. Take care buddy! God bless!
Charlie Smith
You have focused a lot on the significance of the festivals and their meanings. Just wanted to share this with you based on what I have asserted as far as how we can determine Jesus' date of birth based on the Festival of Booths.
*I do not focus on festivals or their meanings but other people do in an attempt to see something that's not there.*
It hinges basically on the fact that the 8th day of the festival of Booths is a special high-Sabbath. During Passover week, the 1st and 7th days are high-Sabbaths. The only other reference I know of that emphasizes the 8th day is the date of circumcision which occurs on the 8th day. Since it is clear Jesus' ministry begins in the fall, likely at the time of the Festival of Booths, I'm thinking that it would be too much of a non-connection for Jesus not to have been circumcised on the 8th day of life as well as the 8th day of the festival. If this 8th day points to the same event, then we can determine Christ's specific date of birth using astronomy, that is, presuming Jesus was circumcised on his 8th day of life to fulfill the 8th day of the Festival of Booths. That would mean that Jesus was born on the 1st day of the festival, Tishri 14/15.
*That is a nice thought.*
I believe you state Jesus was born in 2 BC and that year, the full moon, which was Tishri 14 fell on September 14 of all dates. Thus Jesus' birthdate per the Gregorian calendar would fall on September 14/15, 2 BC. This is just trivia, thought I'd share.
*Yes I see.*
REGARDING THE FIRSTFRUITS WAVE OFFERINGS: But I'd love to have you comment on something else, which is the firstfruits wave offerings being different. I associate the first and second wave offerings with the 1st and 2nd coming of Christ. Christ comes first as a holy, sinless sacrifice, thus the clear indication that the wave offering of the barley on the 15th produces "unleavened bread." Bread, of course, represents Christ's fleshly body. Leaven represents sin, and so the unleavened bread emphasizes that Christ would be born as a perfect human with no human father. We all get that. Christ was here for just 33-1/2 years for this purpose.
*He was here that long and during the exact years for another reason altogether. He could've died at 60 or 20 or even been born in a different year or decade but some things wouldn't add up anymore. Even the timing of his birth serves a specific purpose looking at his length of ministry and time of death. Barley and wheat have zero to do with Jesus as he was offered as The Lamb of God and nothing else in scripture. As firstfruits, Jesus was not grain of any kind.*
But when he returns, he will return to rule for 1000 years along with the elect. Thus we find the second wave offering at Pentecost of the wheat to be two loaves. I believe one represents Christ and the other the saints who will rule with him for 1000 years. However, both loaves are WITH leaven. Clearly this is understandable for those saints who are in imperfect bodies when Christ returns, but if the other loaf represents Christ, then it would suggest that when Christ returns, not needing to appear in a perfect body again, since that sacrifice was good for all time, that this indicates Christ would be in the same imperfect type of body as his saints. That is he would be in the body of an ordinary man at the second coming, perhaps to experience what it is like to be an imperfect man with the weaknesses inherited from Adam.
*Jesus will return the same as he left just as the angels spoke when he ascended. No verse mentions a different body.*
As much is implied at 1 John 3:2 where it says: "Beloved ones, we are now children of God,+ but it has not yet been made manifest what we will be.+ We do know that when he is made manifest we will be like him, because we will see him just as he is."
*Yes, there was no way of explaining what Jesus is/was physically and this is evident looking at his resurrection in the gospel. John couldn't explain it then, neither could he in the epistle. Still, Jesus will return the same as he left and we will all be changed at that moment as Paul said.*
From the above, it is clear that whatever state of physical body his resurrected elect will be in, it will be the same type of body as Jesus is in; thus both loaves being with leaven indicating that Jesus will be in the body of an ordinary man at the second coming, which is different from the "unleavened" offering of his first coming. Christ is in a body of unleavened bread at the first coming but in a body with leaven at the second coming.
*How do you figure that Jesus changes bodies but the verses mentioning his body make no such reference?*
I was wondering if you had a comment on the fact that the second wave offering might be connected to the 2nd coming, and if so, do you use this to explain the nature of Christ's body at the second coming being different than that at the first?
*I do not see any connection because Jesus is a lamb, not a wave offering of grain like his followers (Matthew **13:37**).*
Interesting, is it not?
*Not especially. There are some issues to the theory.*
This came to my attention more specifically when another commentator had noted that Christ was represented at the 2nd coming as the scape goat that itself needed to be sanctified with blood, thus representing it represented Christ in a sinful body at the second coming. Thus some believe Christ will appear in a physical body that is of no specific royal descent at the second coming.
*That is strange. It seems that you're saying Jesus will need blood sanctification when he returns. The bible does not support such. Jesus cannot have a sinful body if he returns the same as he left. If he died in a sinful body then his blood was of no use to anyone. If he died in a sinless state, he was resurrected and will return in the same manner. There is no biblical basis for believing that Jesus will switch bodies (Acts **1:11**; 1Corinthians **15:44**-53).*
Since you clearly are very much into the Hebrew and Judaic interpretations here, you must be aware that Jews have always recognized the two messiahs, messiah ben Joseph and messiah ben David. Genesis 49 indicates two kingships, one through David/Judah and the second through Joseph. But it is clear that the first messiah comes through David first and Joseph second as it says the "scepter will remain with Judah until Shiloh comes." That is, the scepter or kingship of the Christ from the first coming through Judah will remain with Judah until Shiloh comes,
*Yes it is until Shiloh comes. That is from the tribe of Judah as the surrounding text does not mention Shiloh coming from another tribe.*
who is a king from the tribe of Joseph, then the scepter or rule will transfer to the tribe of Joseph and all 11 tribes will bow to him. If so, this imperfect Christ at the second coming will come through the tribe of Joseph.
*The bible does not say that Shiloh comes from the tribe of Joseph. Only Judah is mentioned in the prophecy (Genesis 49:8-12).*
Since Joseph's two sons were half Egyptian, it adds meaning to the term "Out of Egypt I called my son" meaning the Christ would come out of Egypt at the second coming, not literally out of Egypt but would be of part-Egyptian descent being from the tribe of Ephraim, the second son of Joseph.
*Well that is a leap from the tribe of Joseph to his sons seeing as how he had 2 boys. Jesus is represented as 1 of them? The "out of Egypt" prophecy is only about 1 son yet Joseph had 2 sons. The bible does not make a distinction between his sons in such a way. You seem to be mixing verses of differing prophecies together to form a prophecy of your own. The bible already interpreted the meaning of the phrase which takes all the guess-work out of the equation as to what was meant. I mean, Matthew **2:15** seems to say that the prophecy was fulfilled. Where does the bible leave room for further fulfillment if it says the prophecy was fulfilled already?*
Just some thoughts.
*Those are some thoughts indeed.*
Thanks for your blogs and discussions.
*You are quite welcome.*
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Charlie Smith
Refiner The issue of Jesus being represented by the bread is his own. Wine represents his blood and the bread his body. The bread is UNLEAVENED to represent his sinless body at the first coming.
*You are starting to sound like the Jews of John 6 who took him literally, missing the point and context though I understand why you think as you do now. Jesus was called the Passover Lamb in relation to the event. You might find Jesus in relation to us informative when read 1Corinthians 5:6-8. In harmony with chapters 10-11, 5:6-8 places the body as bread whereas Jesus is the Lamb. Why? The bread was a symbol of our share as members of the body which is further discussed in chapter 12 in detail. This is a reference to bread in only 1 respect whereas he is repeatedly called a Lamb and in direct connection with both Passover and the elect in general (Revelation 5:6-10).*
The idea that Jesus cannot come back in his first perfect body has a basis in two things that I can think of, besides the 2nd wave offering being WITH leaven.
a) He must give up his perfect body in sacrifice for mankind. He offers it up in heaven and thus has no more right to it.
*The bible would need to support this. There are many things people can and do think which the bible does not say and this is a serious problem.*
b) When he returns he has to use a different body. This is suggested because Jesus, after his resurrection, never appeared as his original self but kept changing identities. Then he told his disciples that we would return just as they saw him left, which meant in someone else's body. He was never to return as appearance as before.
*The bible does reveal Jesus changing bodies? He made a point of showing Thomas that he had not changed. Why would he do so by showing him the piercings? Why not tell him something that revealed who he was? Why show his body?*
But you rae correct, Jesus is not a sinner. But when he came back the first time, he only experienced humanity as a perfect individual. He did not experience what it was like to be in a weak, imperfect body. So presuming he does experience a body of a sinful man, he will have more understanding of what that is like.
*Does the bible say that Jesus will or needs to experience life in a weak, sinful body? The bible seems to have closed a door on such a suggestion The book of Hebrews is a crash course on Jesus for Jews, perhaps you should look it over yourself. Simple, yet profound teachings on Jesus are there like: 1) what a perfect Jesus means and 2) that he was like us in every way to even be presentable as a sacrifice for us (Hebrews **2:10**, 17). Jesus' perfection wasn't in his birth but rather, his death (Philippians 2:7-9). For more on his body itself, please see Galatians **3:10**-14. Make sure your thoughts are brought into complete harmony with the WHOLE bible (2Timothy **3:16**-17).*
But there is a catch-22 here. How does Jesus remain sinless in this case? Well when he returns in a sinful body the second time, along with some of the elect, God removes him from under Law and he becomes one who says that "Jehovah Is Our Righteous."
*Hold on there! Where does God remove Jesus from being under Law ink connection with his return? What makes you think Jesus' body determines whether he is sinless or not?*
That is, where there is no law, there is no sin.
*This is what I'm getting at. Do you know how sin and perfection work in the bible? Did the Law exist when Adam and Eve sinned? Were their bodies relevant to sin or perfection in the Garden? Much can be learned by asking the right questions. The Sadducees had a seemingly great question to ask Jesus. Jesus revealed that they did not understand the resurrection they were reasoning upon.*
So God simply removes them from under law and they can no longer sin nor can Satan tempt them after they have been sealed.
*For God to ever take away the ability to sin, He would also remove free will in the process. What then was the point of Genesis 3 up to the present? The lesson of Genesis 1-3 appears to be that what God purposed, he saw as good! It is/was good for Satan and Eve to have free will. It was more than good though, it was His will. Why take away what is/was good? Love requires free will doesn't it?*
Clearly this is a temporary arrangement. When the 1000-year rule begins then the rules will change.
*What about when the 1000 years are over? See Revelation 20:7-15 for context.*
But if you can't sin if there is no law then you remain sinless in God's eyes. this is similar to Christ breaking sabbath laws when he was here.
*Jesus FULFILLED the Law which itself means he did not break it. Jesus breaking the Law is a Jewish interpretation right? Read Matthew **5:17**-20 some time. Jesus surely went further in that chapter to make the point I'm making here but I think you get it from those few verses right? There are other verses like it but your claims invalidate such scriptures. As Lord of the Sabbath, Jesus fulfilled rather than break Sabbath.*
It is similar in modern culture to say an undercover DEA agent, who actually buys drugs and sells them for a while until they stage a bust. The court doesn't prosecute them because they are working undercover. God does the same thing. Some may end up doing something that has been a sin on the books before, but they are forgiven if it is part of their secret identity. The sin is not counted against them.
*You would then assume God judges as a mere man. If so, how is He any better than any of us? Jesus certainly lied in claiming to fulfill the Law if he was breaking it correct? That very speech at Matthew 5 would make him a hypocrite as well, speaking against the scribes and Pharisee! Its an interesting thought that Jesus sinned but was sinless because he was undercover. I'm not getting that from the apostles though….*
So I'm sure you can't at this point agree about this regarding Christ, however, the point remains, which is "without Law, there is no sin." If there is no law against marrying a sister, then it's no longer a sin. If the law of marriage is removed and it is no longer a sin to have sex with someone you're not married to, then it's not a sin. It's not held against you.
*Last I checked, sin predates the Law. So where does that reasoning leave you? As for law itself… where there is a priest, especially a royal priest, there is law (Hebrews **6:20**-7:1). Knowing the purpose of priests helps in understanding law itself (Malachi 2:5-7).*
This is similar to what the Jews went through when suddenly all the dietary restrictions they used to maintain were no longer sins. Suddenly it was acceptable to eat anything you wished.
*Was this before or after Jesus FULFILLED the Law?*
But some might be stumbled if they had a weak conscience.
*This was not Judaism was it? That's an important point to think about.*
The point is, though, is that GOD determines what is a sin and what is not, whether you will be forgiven or whether you will not.
*God appointed priests for this exact purpose. Why are priests called "father" do you suppose? What does it mean that a priests' hands are filled with power? Understanding the priesthood and sin go hand-in-hand. You understand both or neither.*
Or think of murder. We are not supposed to kill someone. But in wartime we are permitted to. Or we are permitted to kill someone else in self defense.
*This goes back to fulfilling the Law and what that means. God gave Torah or instruction through Moses to not kill. When did Israel go to war? When God gave instruction or law to do so. Did the Jews always receive command to kill when they did? With what result? Are you saying that God expressly permits people to kill if its in self-defense?*
Or take the new drug laws regarding marijuana. In some states it is now legal, but still remains a sin in other states. So what is illegal in one place is not in another. Sin is in the eye of the beholder.
*Thanks for clearing that up because I thought God determines what is sin. It appears that Adam and Eve learned that disobedience to God alone amounts to sin… because it is sin or missing the mark God set (Genesis **1:26**, **2:15**-17).*
If you are in a sinful body and God wants you to remain righteous, he can remove you from under law and then even if you engage in some former sin it will not be held against you.
*You speak as the many before you. What God CAN do and actually DOES do are 2 different things are they not? This is why I like the bible because it tells us what God does more so than what's merely possible. We can think up endless possibilities straying from what is written in favor of our imagination. God removed sin from priests. Otherwise, they could not serve as such for they were unclean right? Ask yourself this: If Jesus was cleansed when acting as High Priest and is already appointed and serving without end, will he return in a defiled state as High Priest? Does anyone in the bible faithfully serve God as priest (including and especially Jesus) in a sinful state? If he serves like Melchizedek without end, how does he do so in a defiled state? When does his service even begin? That's important too (Hebrews 8:1-6).*
It is impossible for you to sin if you are not under any laws you can break.
*Jesus has fulfilled and established another law (Hebrews 8:6-13). This goes above and beyond the Law of the past (Hebrews **7:15**-28).*
Fascinating.
*On the subject of Law, you will find many, many scriptures from Hebrews 9 enlightening. They will create a need for adjustment on your part though.*
Thanks for your feedback.
*Anytime.*
As far as a second kingship relating to Joseph is concerned, it is through Ephraim, the younger song that the messiah actually comes. The key text in this regard is Genesis 49:29 as part of Joseph's blessing says: "They will continue upon the head of Joseph, even upon the CROWN of the head of the one singled out from his brothers."
*Oh I think you mean verse 26. Also, you "they" which is a reference to the "blessings" right? Look at Deuteronomy **33:13**-16 for further reflection. Did you notice the blessings? A reference to the crown of your head does not mean you are a king does it?*
As I said, Jews have understood there would be two messiahs, one through Joseph and one through Judah/David.
*Jews have understood many things that the bible disagreed with. Wasn't it the Jews that understood Jesus was a blasphemer by saying "your sins are forgiven"? Even the disciples asked "why do the scribes says that Elijah must 1st come" right? Even after Jesus answered, they were still lacking in understanding. Same goes for the loaves, fish, baskets and leaven to this day even among professed Christians all the same (Mark **8:14**-21). Where though is the Jewish understanding of the bible?*
You can look up on Google "messiah ben Joseph" just to confirm the concept though I don't think the Jews understand this totally either.
*There is much they do not understand but they will. Every Passover they await Elijah to teach them. The scribes say he is coming because he is.*
So the idea of two messiahs coming from two different lines is not an original idea of mine.
*I'm with you on that but is such a teaching really biblical?*
Since Jesus has to give up his body in sacrifice the first time, that requires him to use a different body when he returns, likely the reason he always appeared in different appearances, never his original appearance, after his resurrection.
*The bible does not say Jesus gave up his body unless I missed it somehow. Jesus' resurrection requires a different body about as much as those he and others resurrected. Was Jesus really in another body upon his resurrection? What does John **20:25**-27 say? What does the question Jesus asked in verse 28 reveal, given the context of 25-27?*
Anyway, the idea is that when Christ first comes the kingship represented by the scepter remains in the line of Judah UNTIL Shiloh comes, meaning when Shiloh arrives it will no longer be in the line of Judah, thus, presumably in the line of Joseph, "messiah ben Joseph." Obviously, "messiah ben Judah" comes first.
*You said "in the line of Judah" but the bible does not say this and for a reason. The scepter does not leave Judah because all the kings are from Judah until Shiloh comes, the one God gave as king. Does the bible say the Messiah, Jesus or Shiloh would come from another tribe? Here's a hint, where does the royalty come from when Genesis **49:10**-12 is fulfilled in the Revelation? Everything means something and every verse is worded the way it is for a reason. What is mentioned, "the line" of Judah or "Judah" as a whole? Every prophecy is tied to the 1st. The prophecy of Joseph is different than that of Judah and has to do with both sons, not just 1 son. Also, the blessings are essential to understanding the prophecy of Joseph as it is written and added to by several writers throughout the bible. It has very little to do with a Messiah.*
Charlie Smith
You are very astute, indeed!
//For God to ever take away the ability to sin, He would also remove free will in the process.//
I would tend to agree, generally, but it is complex. That is, if you once were given a choice as a free moral agent and then you made your choice and were expected to be happy with your choice, then there is no need for free moral agency, though your choice is a permanent reality of your choice.
*That does not make any sense. You said "if you once were given" but its not once, it is the will of God. If God changes, His will and what He saw as good really wasn't after all. Where did you see anything about your choice being a permanent reality in the bible?*
Bottom line, if there are no choices then there is no need for free agency to make choices. So in some sense, indeed, you could say after you've made your choice then free moral agency is removed, but only because it is not necessary. Sin is removed because there are no laws to break any more.
*If there is no choice then where is the love? God intended for man and angel to possess free will and look, it was good! If He willed it so and it is His purpose, what is missing here? Did God change and if so, where… when? You cannot say there are no laws when there is a royal priesthood that does not end and law is the whole purpose of priests and kings. I already provided the verses which say this.*
Now as far as Jesus being in a defiled body as a high priest, it is much as you said, God determines what is righteous. But at this point I need to make a distinction between the act of wilful sin and the imperfect and sinful state of a person born from Adam.
*Don't bother making distinctions because the bible does not. The bible only makes 1 distinction regarding sin and what you are suggesting isn't it (1John **5:16**-17).*
Our bodies are considered imperfect and sinful and we error and need forgiveness. But ALL sin is not forgiven. There's a difference in sinning out of weakness and deliberately sinning against holy spirit, knowing full well what that choice was. Christ's sacrifice does not cover blatant, willful sin.
*Jesus' sacrifice does cover blatant, willful sin (Matthew **12:31**-32)? You sound like a JW again and they have no understanding of forgiveness of sin and how it works. Jesus never said the word spoken against him must be by accident now did he? That word would be forgiven as he said. What is not forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. The word spoken against Jesus has nothing to do with your physical state does it? Yet it is forgiven anyway despite the willful sin. You, like them, have no idea what Jesus is actually telling you when he speaks of forgiveness and that's ok but you are wrong. Jesus' blood covers willful sin and everything else but that which is against the Spirit.*
That's why during Judgment Day, those in Jesus' day will be condemned even before some of Sodom and Gomorrah because they knew much more, they had knowledge, they understood who Jesus was and they still decided they didn't want him. They were much like the angels who see God and know God's requirements, know God's power, and they just decide they'd rather live a short life and die with their choice.
*That is more than willful sin. The issue with such people is they never accepted the blood. If they did, it would cover all of those bad, willful decisions because it has that power. As for angels, Jesus' blood is of no benefit to them because blood does not balance with spirits. Those angels committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit as did Satan. Its like this, if Satan were to repent and spend the rest of his time trying to right all the wrongs, can he be forgiven? Why or why not? After Genesis 3, there is nothing Satan could do to not meet the Lake.*
So, indeed, God allows free moral agency and choice while choice is relevant. Once the good have chosen to be good, even under test and to the death, and the wicked have chosen otherwise, then God simply grants the righteous eternal life. They can't sin any more because there are no laws for them to break.
*Choice is always relevant. You are making those saved into people who no longer have the ability to really love God because there is no choice anymore. Why did God purpose such and see it as good? You are not responding to this line of questioning. If God wants people who have no choice, why was it good and willed by Him in the 1st place? The saved are nothing more than mindless slaves void of choice rather than children of God who do have choice. You are side-stepping the fundamental facts of life itself and without biblical support. There is a reason you are not using scriptures.*
Think in terms of an angel in heaven. Can an angel kill another angel? Probably not. Can an angel steal from another angel? Probably not. Can an angel commit adultery with another angel? No, because all the angels are married to each other so they can have sex with each other if they want. There is no law that angels can't have sex with each other.
*My thinking on the matter must also reflect what is actually written. I do not reason by focusing on what the bible does not say, reading between lines for another thought. What does an angels ability to kill or steal from another have to do with law given to people? Angels are not married to anyone unless the bible says so. Does it? Think about it, the sons of God… married to each other. I'm not even going to speak on sex because its so absurd but if you look at the reasoning of the Sadducees and Jesus regarding marriage and children, the absurdity of angelic sex should speak for itself (Luke **20:27**-36).*
Charlie Smith
You spoke of many things. But now I would like for you to consider this: Zech 3:
"3. Now Joshua was clothed in filthy garments and standing before the angel. 4 The angel said to those standing before him, “Remove his filthy garments.” Then he said to him, “See, I have caused your error* to pass away from you, and you will be clothed with fine garments.”*+
5 So I said: “Let a clean turban be put on his head.”+ And they put the clean turban on his head and clothed him with garments; and the angel of Jehovah was standing nearby. 6 The angel of Jehovah then declared to Joshua: 7 “This is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘If you will walk in my ways and carry out your responsibilities before me, then you will serve as a judge in my house+ and take care of* my courtyards; and I will give you free access among these who are standing here.’"
Not sure if you do, but many consider this to be a messianic prophecy and that Joshua here represents Jesus Christ.
*No I do not. The chapter is about something and someone else.*
But note that Joshua is a priest who is now becoming a king! The king-priest role is specific only to the second coming. Christ comes as a perfect sacrifice at the first coming, but as a king-priest like Melchizedek, by contrast at the second coming. Now focus on the symbolism of the clean robes. He appears first with filthy robes, but he is given new, clean ones, fine ones, "robes of state" and is told in connection with those robes, "See, I have caused your error to pass away from you, and you will be clothed with fine garments."
*This precedes his service and appointment doesn't it? Did you notice how verses 3-5 come before verses 6-7? They do you know. Also, he was not appointed as king here. You are mistaken because that comes later, also for a specific reason. In chapter 6 he does represent Jesus…. at that time.*
So the dirty robes represent that person's history of sin.
*Come on, you made that up.*
Joshua himself is coming from a very sinful life, but he is still chosen to be the messiah, represented by his old filthy robes and former sins being removed from him.
*Joshua is coming from exile at Babel and not yet serving as High Priest anymore than he is clean. The bible said nothing of any sin nor forgiveness. As a priest, he did not serve in an approved or appointed state. God left the people. God appointed him after he was cleansed, same as Jesus in Hebrews which I'm advised you to review for refinement. His error in an unapproved state was taken from him if he chose to serve (now clean) after appointment in an approved state. Jesus was never in an unapproved state though he did not serve as High Priest until he ascended as Hebrews says. If you made a comparison here it would be a bad 1 no matter what. You are suggesting the unapproved state is 2nd but here it is 1st so it doesn't pan out.*
Point again is this is a sinful messiah who gets new robes and is forgiven, but this is also at the time he is to become a king-priest, which relates to the 2nd coming. Now compare that to what happens to the prodigal son at Luke 15:
*Jesus was never called sinful and your argument was that he wasn't because God excused the DEA agent Jesus, right? Joshua was not a priest nor upon a throne until after his cleansed state bum you say Jesus was sinless 1st then sinful 2nd which makes no sense in Zechariah or anywhere else.*
"21 Then the son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you.+ I am no longer worthy of being called your son.’ 22 But the father said to his slaves, ‘Quick! bring out a robe, the best one, and clothe him with it, and put a ring on his hand and sandals on his feet. 23 Also bring the fattened calf, slaughter it, and let us eat and celebrate, 24 for this son of mine was dead but has come to life again;+ he was lost and has been found.’ And they started to enjoy themselves."
Notice the parallel. The prodigal son returns and he is given the best robe, which would be the robe of the heir. There is a banquet in his honor given by the father, very similar to the father giving a banquet for his son's wedding which is connected to the "kingdom of the heavens" and the second coming.
*Jesus needs to be sinful then forgiven of sin or something to that effect make any sense here. This account has nothing to do with Jesus coming. Jesus was already approved and appointed when he went up, but where's the banquet? He cannot serve in a defiled state yet he was already appointed. If he comes in a sinful state the bible is then a lie regarding his priesthood. Also, we'd need to see verses depicting him being defiled and forgiven and cleansed though already serving as High Priest. That goes down the dark road of blasphemy against the Spirit but it makes Hebrews a lie as I said before. That's why I said it was important to know 'when' and again I will say, review Hebrews and make the needed changes.*
So based on the comparison, we have two examples of Christ using an imperfect body at the second coming.
*The comparison was poor and anachronistic so the examples were not examples really.*
The person chosen to embody the spirit of Christ in the earth at the second coming to accomplish this, is someone who had the life of the prodigal son, someone who loved God but left God and became dead.
*Jesus did not leave God. Doing so would not even be forgivable being that Jesus was as sinless as Satan and to cross that line would make Jesus no different than Satan when he left God. Ezekiel was very informative on that series of events so how would any son of God be different?*
But the prodigal son returns and when he does, God chooses him to become his messiah in the earth.
*That story isn't told in the bible however. Jesus, like Jehu was chosen before his actual appointment and that story is told several times in both testaments. You are in need of refinement.*
That moment of return of the prodigal son is the moment Joshua stands before the throne with befouled garments. The garments of the prodigal son are soiled with the dirt of pigs and so is the garments of Joshua.
*The bible says no such thing of Joshua. You are out of sync with the order of events regarding Jesus' appointment and coming as well.*
But he is the chosen one and so God forgives all his sins as the father forgives the sins of the prodigal son, who has now come back to life.
*Jesus has no sins to forgive. That's why his blood has the value it possesses in the 1st place. For Jesus to ever be in a sinful state, having left, he would make Hebrews a lie, commit blasphemy against the Spirit and we'd still need the verses actually showing such a thing taking place. A parable isn't enough. Matthew 13 and 24 has the Revelation for example.*
The fact that the pre-messiah, that is, the person into whom Christ dwells at the second coming ends up leaving God and dying spiritually is why he is called a CORPSE at Matthew 24:
"28 Wherever the CARCASS is, there the eagles will be gathered together."
*You are in a major up-hill battle proving this verse has anything to do with a pre-messiah which is itself not biblical, dying and being a corpse at Matthew **24:28**. Its such a bad theory, I see no point in even discussing it.*
The "eagles" here are the select secret followers of Christ, represented by the woman who gives birth to the child who becomes the Christ. They know who this person is when he is born and at some point he becomes spiritually dead. He becomes the prodigal son. He becomes Jonah who also leaves God's will for a while.
*The birds are literal as are the other animals who share in this feast (Ezekiel **39:17**). Using the whole bible is how the book interprets itself. You said "select" where Revelation **19:17** says "all" the birds. You trying to play a "this is spiritual but that is literal game" but I don't play those kind of games because the bible reveals what it means just fine without the outside noise. Sorry about that. :-(*
But of course, in order for the messiah to be the prodigal son and Joshua with befouled garments and to be called a "carcass" due to his temporary spiritual death, he must be an imperfect man. Now this is NOT Jesus Christ who is Christ up in heaven. This is a reference to the person whom God uses to reintroduce Christ in a fleshly body at the second coming, the 2nd wave offering of a regular loaf from the house with leaven.
*Your theory of a pre-messiah sounds more Gog though. You should try that. It sounds better and makes more sense (Ezekiel 39:2-5). Maybe Gog could be your prodigal son! Jesus is not part of any wave offering because he is High Priest. He would be the person waving an offering before God. Jesus is not wheat and bread is solely a reference to his body or government whom he shares with, not literal flesh. The sacrifice, thus presentation before God is as a lamb, not bread. See John 6 where his being bread was not about offerings. Leaven and bread is not about a carnal body, its about teachings throughout the bible (Matthew 4:4). You have erred in trying to match things that do not fit together by forcing interpretations poorly and ignoring the other scriptures on the subject. If that is what you choose to do, fine! To continue would be a waste of our time though.*
So really, there is an abundance of scriptures before us that confirms that Christ will dwell in an imperfect body at the second coming, but it is not HIS body, but one in which he dwells. Christ himself is sinless and holy.
*There is not 1 single verse making such confirmation and the very thought has too many problems.*
This is why many people will miss the second coming entirely because they are expecting such a different return by Christ. His disciples were told not to keep looking up at the sky because Christ would return just as they saw him leave.
*Yeah, in the same body he revealed to Thomas… with holes in it.*
That means, the body or appearance that Jesus used the very last was the body he would use when he returned. Thus his disciples saw what he would look like when he came back at the second coming.
*There is only 1 body until you show evidence of another directly from the scriptures.*
Now remember, Christ does not put new wine into old wineskins.
*So you missed the whole point of his saying that too. You mentioned the answer but not the question. Look at Matthew **9:14** and try to understand what the wine and winskins are all about. Or how about verse 15 where the question is answered with a question. The rhetorical question is quite revealing. Jesus is not talking about his flesh.*
Many upon his return would choke on some of these things.
*It does not make sense.*
But even the foolish virgins get their lamps burning brightly eventually, even though their seats in the kingdom will by then have been given to others.
*That's not quite how it works (Matthew **22:11**-14). Take special note of verse 14.*
But Christ does not force this "new wine" understanding on those of his own who have such rigid ideas already about Christ and his return. This would burst them and destroy them. So it is not forced. The "new wine skins" can handle this though, because they don't have a lot of preconceived ideas that now have to be changed and corrected. So just as the new wine is not forced on to the old wineskins, it is not necessary to accept this interpretation, whether or not you believe it is the correct interpretation.
*Interesting take on what Jesus actually said but no mention of the question. Really, its nice because at least you are making sense now whether right or wrong. Do you assume that you don't have preconceived ideas? Do you assume that you are not in need of refinement here? Where did you get the idea of "force" because you used it a few times? It is necessary to allow the bible to interpret itself by hearing the whole message. Cut and paste 1 or 2 ideas and ignore the rest allows for any story to be told. The sheer number of denominations is proof of this, no? There are children who listen to some of what their parents say, ignoring the rest but to what end? Some children hear what they want and tune the rest out but such a life is not void of its unnecessary problems is it? You have created unnecessary issues in your theory by not listening to the entire counsel of God before theorizing so strongly.*
But do you get my drift here?
*Yes I do. It is filled with problems though.*
The "eagles" are chosen to know who the Christ is, who the new messiah is and the body he will be in.
*Where is there verse that says any of this?*
They surround that Christ, but they do so secretly. They know who the Christ is, but they tell no one. They do not reveal him. That's why the Bible says if someone claims "here he is" or "there he is over there...." you must not believe them.
*You have taken great liberties here. Where are these birds depicted as people who keep secrets? Jesus at Matthew **24:24**-26 contrasts the secrets of fake prophets and anointed ones with publicity in verse 27! How are you not seeing that so as to say what you said?*
Because Christ must arrive in secret first, like a "thief in the night" to the world before God reveals him. His secret followers, the "eagles" do not reveal him.
*Where are birds called secret followers of Jesus? The bible does not say he comes 1st as a thief. You are trying to make a distinction where there is none. The bible says he comes as a thief. Matthew **24:27** makes it clear that his coming as a thief is by surprise. This is the context of verses 36-44. Its not a secret coming in that he is missed or unseen, its as a thief in that you simply don't know when he is coming. It will not be missed. Look at Revelation **16:12**-16 and explain how his coming is missed when even Satan and the demons know he has come (they are here at the time) and prepare the kings of the world for battle. Where is the espionage?*
Notice how the woman in Revelation is given the "wings of the great eagle" (12:14). So the woman who gives birth to the imperfect Christ has a direct association with the Christ and surround him.
*This would require the woman to be here at the time. She isn't though. The 1260 days are long past when Jesus comes. Notice that once Satan is thrown to the earth he goes after her initially but then focuses on her offspring those days, but why? She is kept from Satan and is next seen coming down from heaven in the end right (Revelation 21:2)? How does 1 come down unless 1 goes up?*
Thus the "eagles" who surround the carcass represent the woman.
*The Lion of Daniel 7 was given the wings of an eagle also… now what? Notice too that both are kingdoms.*
When this pre-messiah becomes the prodigal son, of course, and dies spiritually, it is distressing to the woman, to the eagles, and that is why they are said to "beat themselves in lamentation" when they see him, since they see him as a dead Christ at the second coming.
*You have placed the bible in a blender and made your own bible smoothie out of it sadly. The "they" who beats themselves see someone coming on the clouds with power and glory. Does that sound like someone who is dead to you? What power and glory is there in being dead and how is it that someone dead is coming on clouds at all? You went back to not making any sense again.*
They undergo his death with him as they watch him leave God as the prodigal son, but rejoice when he returns and God reinitiates him as the chosen messiah.
*It’s a nice story for a movie with no intent to bring the words of the bible to life on screen. You should send a script to that Downey lady who made that bible series and movie. Not a word of what you said is scriptural. You inserted so much unwritten opinion between verses that you have told a different story of your own entirely.*
This is when Joshua appears with befouled garments. He is the pre-messiah about to become one with the messiah in heaven. That's how Jesus Christ becomes an imperfect man at the second coming, he has to use the bod of one of his followers.
*Lol. Ok. Joshua was not appointed at the time. Jesus has already been appointed and began serving 19+ centuries ago!*
Now this might not be an interpretation you are able to accept. But based on world events, with the UN about to take over world government and event that occurs shortly after the messiah returns at the 2nd coming, it would appear, more than likely, Christ has already arrived. And if so, some of the elect would already be aware of that as they would have witnessed the second coming. But this light is a very bright light, if you get my drift. But maybe some outsiders can see the light.
*Haaa. That's rich! The UN is about to fall not take over the world. It’s a helpless paper tiger with no teeth! Interpretations I accept are biblical because they take the entire message into account. When Jesus comes even the wicked will know, not just the elect (Matthew **26:64**; Revelation 1:7, **6:15**-17).*
One wave offering with and one without leaven. The FIRST is without, all about UN-leavened bread. But the second is WITH leaven. It's simple, but profound and so different, it is impossible to believe unless God's holy spirit opens ones eyes to see it.
*The bread is about teachings, not flesh. Jesus, as the Lamb, is High Priest already so he cannot be a wave offering. There is a wave offering of the people which the priests ate the holy portion. There is also the offering made by the priests or High Priest. Where does this fit your claims? You have not taken the whole bible into account and have erred in doing so, making parts of the bible false and anachronistic. You also cannot offer examples from scripture without adding so much of your own opinion and interpretation. Your theory is impossible to believe with Holy Spirit. Perhaps God will open your eyes. Your theories are near blasphemy.*
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When is Chapter 9 coming out?
Thank you for this video! Is there a german version too?
There is not a German version of the video I did for Daniel 8. Here is the link to the German version of the Daniel 7 video.
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@@markmcmillion1 Ok, thanks!
Thank you!
Revelation interprets Daniel. shalom.
Why would you say the temple that is to be built a holy place? Are we not told that we are the temple of god not built with hands of man but of our Lord Jesus Christ? How can you explain calling this new temple holy? This sounds like you are replacing what the new meaning of temple is currently back to prior of the revealing of Jesus Christ and his Holy people. Maybe your interpretation is incorrect and we can think this attack and dictatorship is actually on the image of God in man. Just a thought. Enjoying finding these videos and very thankful for your hard efforts of study.
I have a question,
Verse 14says:
2300 evenings and Mornings
Mean that 6year and 4 months
Or 3years 2 months?
Time is measured as set forth in Genesis, the evening and morning combined were one day. So the best I can say is 2300/360=6.38 Years. Mark starts this some months after the start of Daniel's 70th Week but I hold with Larkin who starts at the desecration of the temple since the vision seems to be only concerned with the taking away of the sacrifice (8:12-13) and not the starting up of the sacrifices. This pushes the cleansing of the temple several years into the Millennium which is not a problem. There is a temple described in scripture not built by Zerubbabel not rebuilt/improved by Herod the Great. It will not be the next temple either but one build, most likely, in the Millennium and will need to be cleansed.
Jesus Christ Return's 2,300 Day's After the Man of Sin Invades Israel to Stop the Sacrifice's and take over the Temple
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Does the fact that the little horn comes out of the goat, mean that the Anti-Christ is from Greece?
That's good wrll explained
Thanks for all. Wonderful. Some questions please... Would the rapture occur before, or after the Great Tribulation?, 2) Do you have some classes that you hold to go in-dept in these teachings? Thanks :)
The Rapture Gathering Up together with the Dead in Christ at the First Resurrection When Jesus Christ Said Immediately after the Tribulation of those Days before the Wrath of the Lamb Jesus Christ. Ezekiel 37:1-14. Daniel 12:1-4. Matthew 24:29-31. Mark 13:24-27. Luke 21:25-28. 1 Corinthians 15:50-55. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. Revelation 6:10-17. Revelation 11:1-19. Revelation 20:1-6. The Marriage Supper of the Lamb Jesus Christ Revelation 19:1-10. The Return of Jesus Christ and the Saint's Revelation 19:11-21. God Bless you
@@scott596. Where is the verse in the Bible that says you're going to heaven!
@@JamieElison good Question ❓ for someone who has said We are going to Heaven ! But you must have me confused with another, I didn't say We are going to Heaven !
On the other hand I have said Many times as the Word of God and Jesus Christ Say's The Dead in Christ Rise First and are Changed Transformed into Eternal Physical Body of Flesh Bone and Spirit Forever and then We which Remain Alive are in the Twinkling of the Eye Changed Transformed into Eternal Physical Body of Flesh Bone and Spirit Forever and Gathered Up Together with the Dead in Christ to Meet Him in the Air Cloud's of Heaven to Return with Him for the Wrath of the Lamb Jesus Christ and to Rule and Reign with Him for a Thousand Year's over the Nation's of People with a Iron Rod from Jerusalem Israel !
There are many Scriptures that say that ; I'll get you a Few of them !
Daniel 12:1-4. Ezekiel 37:1-14. The Dry Bones. Matthew 24:29-31. Mark 13:24-27. Luke 21:7-28. 1 Corinthians 15:50-55. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. Revelation 6:10-17. Revelation 11:1-19. The Two Prophet's of God and Jesus Christ are Raised from the Dead and Raptured Up to Meet Him Jesus Christ In the Cloud's of Heaven. Revelation 14:9-20. Revelation 19:1-21.
Also John 13:36- threw 14:1-6.
Have fun with these ! God Bless you
@@JamieElison remember God told you in Genesis Who the Beast will come from, God Said Ismael is like a Wild Beast and will have his Hand's Against All Nation's as he does in Islam the Antichrist Beast government Religion for the End of Day's Army of Darkness, the Simple Family Fued between Ismael and Issac and Jacob Israel and Essua Islam against Israel and the Entire World !
Really very Simple My Friend God Bless you
The Rapture is in Revelation 11:1-19. The Two Prophet's of God and Jesus Christ are Raised from the Dead and Stand on their Feet and Ascend into the Cloud's of Heaven to Meet Him Jesus Christ in the Air Cloud's of Heaven ! The Rapture Gathering Up Together with the Dead in Christ !
9 years later... This world's in trouble...
Super!!
this video is so interesting for me!
Kudos, most people don’t pick up on Daniel’s visions being the same vision from different perspectives. If it is of any help to you or anyone else, I give you these insights that I have had:
1. The great and terrible visage in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream is the same as the beast which “Babylon the Great” rides on in the book of Revelations.
2. The “Anti-Christ” will come from the area of the Seleucid Empire, not Russia. He requires a ready following of anti-Christs who are willing to die for him without question.
3. The “Abomination of Desolation” spoken of by Christ, happened when the Romans burned the Jerusalem Temple down. This refers to any time that an abomination (in this case a degenerate kingdom) stands in a holy place where it aught not. In the case of the Temple in Jerusalem, Rome (a degenerate kingdom) thought to supplant the Jewish religion by destroying their Temple and scattering their people. This will happen again, not to the Jews but rather the Gentiles.
This is the first of your videos I've seen, it helped me out with the 4 horns springing up. I couldn't seem to find information about 4 leaders taking power after Alexander. I don’t know why, maybe I had the wrong search word something.
could you please explain why was the roman empire a "degenerate kingdom" .. it seems a bit of an exaggeration, do you know the meaning of "degenerate"?
Only one Vision
Islam the Last Kingdom of Babylon Iron and Miry Clay Feet is Iron Weapons of War and Miry Clay Feet is Man male and female Islam using Hijrah Imagination Refugees and Mass Migration and Breeding Children to take over from Within Your Replacement's and New Master's, as Islam is the only people Still Breeding and having Children today in the Entire World, everyone else is Extinct and Must be Replaced by Hijrah Imagination Refugees and Mass Migration By Islam
Except what you said .is not written in the book of Daniel!
Hola My Bross,Mr Mark gracias por tan excelentes vídeos, WoW¡ han sido de gran ayuda para mi en mis estudios Teológicos, Felicitaciones, pero tengo problemas con el idioma ,hay algunos vídeos que no están en español, I Dont Speak Enghlis, y me cuesta entenderlo si es cierto hay muchos otros vídeos de otros canales en español, pero me gusta su canal y en la forma que usted explica los libros de la Biblia, pueden por favor subir mas traducidos al spanish thank you God bless you
Gracias por tu comentario. Estoy feliz porque disfrutas los videos. Yo no hablo español. Google traduce para mí. Tengo 3 videos en español en TH-cam. También tengo artículos de blog en español. Aquí está el enlace a ellos. www.propheciesofdaniel.com/es/
Toma mucho tiempo hacer un video en español. Quizás los videos en inglés se traducirán al español por TH-cam. Investigaré esto.
This is not the true prophecy. In the Bible 1 prophetic day is equal to 1 literal year. Therefore, 2300 days here it means 2300 years which period is 457 BC (Persian period) to 1844 Ad when Jesus enter the most holy place in the heavenly sanctuary
Put the Bible don't say that.. if you've got a Jesus going into a dirty sanctuary of Daniel eight ..you would be in a cult!.
I feel like you are yet to do more research on these prophesies to get more in-depth sight.... Just a thought..never mind..
Agree
I want Turkish explaning please
Uncle mark mcmillion,
How could you say that the little horn (which is actually coming-out of 3rd beast Greece kingdom) in 8th chapter is The Antichrist
if actually the Antichrist comes out of the 4th beast as a little horn & becomes strong?
I really don't believe that little horn in chapter 8 is the same one as little horn of the beast in Revelation (or) 4th beast.
Pls give me reply
Thanks for your comment. You are correct; Antiochus IV Epiphanies around the year 167 BC stopped sacrifices in the temple in Jerusalem and there sacrificed a pig on the altar. But then, nearly 200 years after that, Jesus of Nazareth was speaking about the final days before His second coming and He said, “When you shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place, whoso reads, let him understand.” (Matthew 24:15) Therefore we know from the teachings of Christ that what Antiochus IV Epiphanies did in 167 BC was not the final and ultimate fulfillment of the prophecies of the abomination of desolation and the man of sin, the antichrist. Because Jesus put this event in the future to come. Also Paul in II Thessalonians 2 spoke of a future event of the antichrist sitting in the temple of God.
Antiochus IV Epiphanies was a foreshadowing of the final Antichrist to come, a partial fulfillment but not the final one. About the beasts, in Daniel 8 there are two beasts, not 4. Daniel 8 verse 9 says “out of one of them came forth a little horn”, in other words out of one of the four divisions of the empire of Alexander the Great, after his death and when it was divided between his four generals. It was speaking geographically, that the AC would come from one of the four divisions of Alexander’s empire. And much of the area of the Roman Empire and the Empire of the Greeks was the same area.
So there is no conflict or contradiction here. In Daniel 8 three specific times the angel says to Daniel that these events are at the time of the end. So it is not talking about Antiochus IV Epiphanies. I have made a 10 minute video on this subject, you might find it interesting. Many people have this question that you are mentioning and at one point some years ago it was much more of a doctrine that people held to, about Antiochus IV Epiphanies being the fulfillment. Here is the link to the video, thanks again for your comment. Your friend, Mark
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@@markmcmillion1 lies lies and more lies daniel chapter 8 9 10 11 12 was all about antichous epiphany which was the 3 beast kingdom but the other little horn for daniel chapter 7 is about the little horn which is the pope where is the history for that in the bible o you people take it out
@@evettebrummell1836and you've been sent by the devil.. you can't fit the 2,300 days( into Antiochus of epiphanes)!!! if you had to!!!
@@evettebrummell1836well if he's lying to you.. put up the beginning and the ending date of antiochus of epiphanies.!!! We're going to see who is lying ..I understand what the 2,300 days mean ..this guy didn't even write it down! But he let you know that he does understand!
The bear in Daniel chapter 7 was the Soviet Empire akta the Russian Federation.
Iran the Bear Two Horn Ram
The lion with eagle's wings an the eagles wings were plucked up and made to stand, and give a man's heart. 1776. The bear lays on one side look at the map .three ribs ..how many ribs does he have in his mouth right now.? Google the leopard in front of the u.n.. Daniel 7 kingdoms happened from verse 41 down to the end. Of Daniel 2 the Kings!
Hi Mark, what justifies in Daniel 8 to apply it to a future Antichrist rather than Antiochus Epiphanies who literally came out of the Seleucids greek empire?
For one, as I brought out in this video, the angel told Daniel, “I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be”. Antiochus Epiphanes was not at the end. Here is a separate, smaller video I made that covers this exact subject you are bringing up.
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@@markmcmillion1 OK, I'll check that out, but as I was reading in a well known commentary by Joyce Baldwin, the end doesn't seem to refer to the end of all things, but rather to answer the question asked a little earlier in verse 13 "Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled-the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, the surrender of the sanctuary and the trampling underfoot of the Lord’s people?” Blessings to you and thanks for sharing.
@@andrefavreau9818Matthew 24:3 the( end of the world )that was the question.. to the( abomination of desolation) Matthew 24:15 the (transgression of desolation )the same thing Daniel 8:13!
@@andrefavreau9818there is only one Vision in Daniel 8-12 ! And it Ends with the Saints being Glorified and the Lord's Return to Rule for a Thousand Year's over the Nation's of People with a Iron Rod !
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. The Man of Sin the Son of Perdition is Revealed Sitting in the Temple Showing Himself that he is God In his own Time.
6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time.
The Moadeam Appointed Time's Appointed By God and Jesus Christ.
If the goat is Alexander the great and the ram is Persia The vision refers to the time of the end I can’t comprehend to stiff for me
The goat is Greece, according to what the angel said, the “great horn” was said to be the first king of Greece and the Ram was said to be the kingdom of Persia. But then, as I explained in the video, there is a jump or transition to the final days, the same way it happens in Daniel 7.
The Man of Sin the Son of Perdition is Revealed Sitting in the Temple Showing Himself that He is God In His Own Time, His Own Appointed Time Appointed by God and Jesus Christ
so the last beast is Rome mixed with clay? what does the clay represent? And what happens in the first 3.5 years of the last week? Thanks Im learning alot!
No Not at all as the Romans are Extinct, They No longer exist , and the Italians are Extinct as well as they Refuse to Breed and have Children so they are Extinct and being Replaced by Hijrah Imagination Refugees and Mass Migration and Breeding Children by the only people Still Breeding and having Children today Islam ! Everyone else is Extinct ! The Last Kingdom of Babylon Iron and Miry Clay Feet is Iron Weapons of War and Miry Clay Feet is Man male and female Islam using Hijrah Imagination Refugees and Mass Migration and Breeding Children to take over from Within, your Replacement's and New Master's, for the End of Day's Army of Darkness from Every Nation to Invade Israel to Stop the Sacrifices and take over the Temple and to Kill the Two Prophet's of God and Jesus Christ
Only one group of people Still Breeding and having Children today in the Entire World Islam your Replacement's and New Master's for the End of Day's Army of Darkness Carrying Black Flag's with one word Punishment
Alexander the Great was truly Macedonian. At that time there were different city- states.
Only Macedonia was separate country.
I am Greek Macedonian.
Good teaching, but I guess you do not believe in the Rapture you keep saying the Bride is going to be here?
Sorry if that’s not clear, this is all going to be tackled in the two large videos I will be working on in the first half of 2014, having to do with Daniel 9. I definitely believe in the Rapture, a “post tribulation” one, after the 3½ years of great tribulation but before the wrath of God. Thanks for asking and for your interest, GBY, Mark
The little horn is Rome
Yes, I am one of those.
Mark
I respectfully disagree. Its possible that your interpretation is a type or shadow of the visions final revelation. I see what you are saying, but in verses 17,19 and 26 we are told that the vision was to be fulfilled at the time of the end and Daniel was to seal up the vision. I know that ther are many Bible teachers that teach what you do. The Spirit leads me to believe that the ram said to be the kings of the Medes and the Persians is in reference to the spiritual realm. I believe God is teaching about the two witnesses. I may be alone in this belief, but I truly believe this. I have never heard a bible teacher ask this question. Why does Daniel not mention the two witnesses? When revelation makes it clear that they definitely fit into the time of the end. Daniel, more than any other prophet is incredibly detailed. How is it possible that he would miss these key players at the time when the final curtain is raised?
Furthermore, I believe that the two witnesses are the evening sacrifice! You have studied secular history well, I challenge you as a brother in Christ, to do an in-depth study on the morning and the evening sacrifice. Why would the vision as you portray, make Daniel physically sick? I believe the fulfillment of this vision during the tribulation period will make the God fearing sick, just as the crucifixion of the savior did. I would be interested in anyone that can explain how your view of this vision is sealed. In what way? I'm just saying, it doesn't add up. Shalom!
Jim, thanks for your comments. A while back, I wrote an article called “Sound Doctrine? Or Speculation” It sort of sums up my approach to teaching these things. My aim is to try to cleave towards what can be hoped to be sound doctrine in these videos. There’s so much around that is basically the speculations of one teacher or the other. But so many people are looking for fundamentals and what are the basics concerning Bible prophecy, things that have been the main line views of Christians for many hundreds of years. I appreciate your views and suggestions. For now I feel I need to make these things to be as much as possible “sound doctrine” but I’m glad to hear the ideas and possibilities that others share. Thanks and God bless you, Mark
Mark, im all for sound doctrine teaching. I believe doctrine and dogma are important when we are dealing with the principles of our salvation. But this vision given to Daniel is one of the most difficult parables in the Bible. This should be openly discussed among the body of Christ. It does say that in a multitude of councillors there is safty. We should hear all takes on this subject as long as the scripture lends to it. It would be so much simpler if God would just but it in terms that a child could get every idea that is in His word, but without a parable the Lord did not speak. So this is why we need to study the whole council of God. We should as christians be always ready to ask and answer questions. I see that spirit in you. So I thank you. But many of the believers are not so inclined. I believe this was a problem also in Jesus day. Its clear that it was. Did the deciples rigidly view the scripture? I think not, otherwise they would have missed the messiah as the Pharisees did. We know in part, therefore we must test every spirit.thank you for taking the time to respond. You do yoursef credit.
May God bless you and yours, my brother!
Jim Frugia
Daniel 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings. I watched till its wings were plucked off; and it was lifted up from the earth and made to stand on two feet like a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
Notice that what Daniel saw was a winged lion initially, then Daniel says as hes watching, it starts to change. Its wings were taken and it was made to stand up like a man and given a heart of a man. Why did he see a change and what does that mean? In the previous post, the opposite was said about the tree that Nebuchadnezzar had a vision of. The tree was the king and it was given the heart of a beast in place of the heart of a man, now the beast is being given the heart of a man.
In Jeremiah 25:9 God makes it clear that He has chosen Nebuchadnezzar to be His servant in place of the kings of Judah, this is a change. So at this time, God has taken this winged lion and had it quickly over throw nation after nation across the middle east as far as Egypt as Jeremiah prophesied in chapter 25. So we can see that this beast was given the heart of a man in place of the heart of a beast as Babylon was doing Gods will 70 years. With the tree you can see that Nebuchadnezzar had been given everything by God and now the king has chosen to become prideful so that God took everything from him and humbled him. Therefore the king or tree lost its heart of a man and was given the heart of a beast. Was this the only change?
In Daniel 7 he saw another change take place. He saw a 4th beast with 10 horns but then he saw another horn appear with eyes and a mouth. In this change he not only saw an 11th horn but this smaller horn grew larger than all other horns and plucked up 3 of the 10 horns. This is one of the reasons Daniel was particularly interested in this 4th beast. The ultimate change in this vision was that this 4th beast along with the others have their dominion taken away from them and give to the son of man and the saints to rule. 2 years later Daniel has another vision in Babylon about a ram and a goat, this is one more layer to the previous layers of chapters 2, 4 and 7.
Daniel once again notices a change taking place within his vision of beasts just like his previous vision of beasts. He saw a ram with a 2nd horn that was larger than the first horn. Gabriel tells him in Daniel 8:20 that this is Media and Persia. Even tho it's not needed at this point, the bible once again is making it clear that prophets who see visions of beasts are actually seeing governments of the world. Gabriel says in verse 21 of Daniel 8 that the goat is Greece and the first horn is its first king. He goes onto explain that 4 more horns came out of that first horn and that this first horn was broken as soon as it brought down the Ram. World history tells us that as soon as Alexander the 3rd, king of Greece, four of his generals took his place and divided the kingdom of Greece into 4 parts. This happened as soon as Alexander defeated Persia and immediately died at Babylon July 323BCE. That's 2296 years ago exactly when this little horn came out of Greece. As these 4 kingdoms battle with one another the Macedonian horn has another horn rise out of it. This horn grew larger than the others and overthrew them all absorbing all of Greece. This is Greco Roman history and the rise of Iron.
So the focus of Daniel's vision is the goat and its first and last horn. Daniel focus much on this final horn and what it does in verses 9-12 in Daniel 8. So the 2 seraphim that were speaking to one another were also wondering about this little horn. And the question that one asked another was not only what this horn was doing but more importantly, how long is it going to go on. This is a chronology question, how long this happens is as important as what is happening. So Gabriel explains the vision to Daniel. He says at the end of their kingdom, this final king is going to rise up. This is a dual vision. How do we know it's a dual vision?
When Daniel saw the vision in verses 9-12 in chapter 8, the horn was successful at defeating the host, the prince of the host and destroying the sancuary. The horn was successful at everything it did against Gods place and His ppl. When Gabriel interprets the vision, he starts by saying that this is about the time of the end in verse 17. Tho this horn was successful in the vision, it is not successful in the interpretation given by Gabriel. So when you compare Daniel 8:10-12 with verse 25 it is clear that the exact opposite is happening with these 2 verses rather than the same thing. So either Daniel saw the opposite of what Gabriel explains meaning Gabriel was wrong, or Gabriel is revealing that these events take place twice but with 2 different outcomes. This is a dual prophecy. One of many that happens in the bible. So what does this look like?
When Rome rose up in the battle of Tarentum, Rome began its war against Greece after coming out of Greece. Rome would bring down Greece all the way down to its last kingdom belonging to Ptolemy in Egypt. As Rome now became world Power, this horn was now a great horn as Daniel 9 says and then it went up against Jerusalem. In verse 10 of Daniel 8, Rome began its attack on Jesus and his apostles defeating them all, the prince and his host. By verse 11 Rome had also brought down the sanctuary in 7BCE. By verse 12 the transgression of this horn was responsible for the martyrdom of many Christians. And throwing truth to the ground, Rome was successful in every detail Daniel saw. This is not what Gabriel interprets however.
Gabriel says they are at the end of their kingdom in his interpretation. He says the king will rise up against the prince of princes with a different outcome from what Daniel saw. So in the rematch or antitype, l the horn is broken by the prince rather than being successful as he was in the past according to Daniel 8:23-25. Gabriel reminds you of what the seraphim said about the vision, the chronology is as important as the events taking place. Daniel 8:14 is where the seraph says it is "for 2300 evening morning, then the sancuary will be cleansed". Gabriel says this is true in verse 26 and tells Daniel to seal up the vision reminding him that this is for the time of the end. So this vision is about the cleansing of the sancuary and its restoration. As these beasts have been changing from the very first beast Daniel saw, they are still changing down to the last beast.
This goat began as Greece and Rome emerged as a small horn out of Greece. Does the change stop there? Because this is a dual prophecy that refers to the time of the end and Rome is no more, there was clearly another change that happened within this goat. As Daniel saw Greece and Rome in previous chapters, this small horn on this Roman beast in Daniel 7 is doing the exact same thing when layered on top of the little horn in Daniel chapter 8. Both horns start out little, they are the final horns seen both times, and what makes them notable is their attack on Gods ppl. As Rome no longer exists in the form Daniel saw in chapter 8:9-12, what Gabriel explains in verses 23-25, is the antitype or what is left of Rome when it changed. As with chapter 7 in the 4th beast, we again see a change from Greece to Rome to the split of Rome leaving Great Britain to come out of Rome with Rome's power and America out of it. So Romes Iron kingdom has ultimately passed on to its 3rd generation which is America. As Gabriel said, the chronology is true. The war against Gods ppl is coming, and the sancuary will be cleansed...........😊
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@@tonya.vahle80Daniel 7 was written after Daniel 8. If you understand the first verse in Daniel 8 and you do a lot of study you're going to see that I told you the truth.and you got chicken soup for what you're trying to put there.
God said we should not sacrifice animals again,Jesus was our last sacrificial lamb.
No Temple, No Sacrifice's, No Return of Jesus Christ ! 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. The Man of Sin the Son of Perdition is Revealed Sitting in the Temple Showing Himself that He is God ! In His Own Time, His Own Time Appointed by God and Jesus Christ
Do you Fear the return of the Lord Our God Jesus Christ ? So you don't want Israel to Rebuild the Holy Temple of God and Jesus Christ.
Daniel 9 is the structure of Daniel. It's written to Daniel and his people it's not written to you!
@@JamieElison Daniel is Written for the Future for Everyone that will be here to Go through the Tribulations of those Day's before the Lord Jesus Christ Return's, which He does By the End of Daniels Vision ,
Only one Vision in Daniel, All the way to Daniel 12.
Which is the Resurrection and the Glorification of the Saints
@@scott596 Daniel was written to Daniel's people.. Daniel 9 tells you to Daniel's people! (Daniel 12 is written to the) children )of Daniel. !!!The Great tribulation happens. They are the( elect )you're not the elect..!. that's not you..! but if you want to go through it.. go ahead! the Christians are not going to go through it!
Sounds like Teump is that man of pride. Rising outta nowhere into power...
You do realize the Anti Christ will be a very good looking man right?
ashley jackson no.. this is wrong teachings
@@rubyandrews1337 well tell us what is the right teaching
Is Trump still the Antichrist?
Is Trump still the Antichrist?
For the Catholics the "daily sacrifice" is in the daily Mass the sacrifice of Jesus renewed at every Mass in the altar.
Creating the New World Order Islamic State Caliphate Beware. th-cam.com/video/a6AtOozh464/w-d-xo.html