Australian Dating Culture: What Men Really Think

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  • @oscarwest9389
    @oscarwest9389 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    While your intentions are good, as an Aussie who spent several years living in Sydney, I don't think it's as pleasant for guys as you make out. I also think your experience might be a lot different to most too because you have the accent (which definitely changes things when cold approaching). You've clearly got a lot in your bag to offer too in terms of Corporate Career (& possibly finances if you can afford to live in Sydney and afford to go out). So with the accent, the looks, the career, and the money - girls are going to pick up on that straight away, as well as the confidence you might project from having these things behind you. But, for most men in Australia, they're not going to tick all of those boxes, which means the response from women is most often going to be different.
    As I said, I lived in Sydney for several years, as well as a large Coastal town north of Sydney, and my observation through personal experience and the experiences of other guys I've heard from has been this: Girls in Australia (especially Sydney) are looking to TICK BOXES. They're looking for 'Looks', 'Money' (finance/bankers), 'Career', 'Status', 'Fame', 'Footy Players', 'DJ's', 'Coke Dealers', 'The Bad Boys', 'One of the Boys', 'Security Guards to the best Clubs', 'Traveler's', 'Surfers', 'Muscles', 'Tatts', and basically anyone with a title or at the top of the hierarchy of their particular Sub Culture.
    Personality; Character; Sense of Humour; Intelligence; Good Values; Respect; and being 'Reliable & Trustworthy' etc don't seem to become attractive until you have something superficial/materialistic to offer that serves THEM personally, and quite often, socially.
    This changes of course when women are much older, when they're now looking for a 'good value man' as opposed to the 'high value man' because 'they' are ready to 'settle down'. But so often as the story goes, they find that the 'good value men' have all gone elsewhere to meet 'good value women' and the options for them are now depleted, much to their despair, and at times anger, towards men (like it’s our fault somehow that they spent the prime years of their life chasing after the wrong men while the good value men got pushed to the way side or put on the shelf ‘for later’.
    I can't help but get the sense that you belong to a very small percentage of men that have had a good experience with women in this country, and that's great, but from my perspective, most men find Aussie women: 'Difficult', 'Entitled', 'Drama Queens', 'Unapproachable', 'Rude', 'Abrupt', 'Judgemental', 'Disinterested in making any effort or reciprocating conversation', 'Unable to have conversations', 'Unable to ask questions', 'Have double standards with men' (eg Footy Player/High Status Guy vs Average Guy on the street), 'Untrustworthy', 'Secretive', 'Have multiple men going at same time to serve what they are looking for at any given time', 'Too focused on their phones and their instagram', 'Quick to judge online profiles, bio's and pictures (unless you show off high value & status)'...so on and so forth.
    Let me emphasise, there ARE women out there who are NOT like this, and who are great value, but as these women would tell you, so many women out there would be one or more of the above, which also makes it difficult for 'good value women' to meet other 'good value women'.
    This is just some feedback because when you talk so much about how Australian girls are so easy to talk to and friendly, I'm wondering whether you're talking about Australian women, or women who have just arrived in the country from somewhere else and are yet to adopt the default difficulty setting of most Aussie woman.
    Lastly, you might think that this has all come from someone who is single and resentful. It hasn't. This has come from a 'decent' looking guy who has had success (at different times in life) with women in the past (when I was single). I also want to say that I have a lot of love and respect for women. All of the above comes from a place of observation over a long period of time in this country. I care about men and mens health. And I've known many men (including myself) who have struggled with their relationships with women (in particular 'difficult' women) whether that be in passing, or in short term/long term relationships. I guess when I hear men making it sound all good here in Australia (and Sydney) I can't help but feel the need to reach out and share an alternative perspective on behalf of those who feel discouraged, and do my best to normalise the difficulty that most men face. That is, that relationships in all contexts between men & women are not anywhere near as good as what they could and should be, and that as a result, both men & women are missing out.
    Cheers, I hope this has been helpful.

    • @tkmwong020480
      @tkmwong020480 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You are absolutely 100% right. There is another channel runned by a Real Aussie guy who reviewed All the different cities in Australia and He pretty much said the same things as You did and Sydney seems to be the worse of All the other cities as well, then Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane and Adelaide. Dating in Australia is very difficult for Men who earn a decent stable income but aren't in the career fields where most women are looking into for what the men does for living. Chances for average guys to date women are even much harder.

  • @bmoaccordion4969
    @bmoaccordion4969 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I am American of Mexican descent and was in a relationship with an Aussie girl whose parents were Egyptian. She was lovely at first, like you said in the video, very feminine. However, after six months, it became a nightmare. Culturally acceptable to drink after work with coworkers was a red flag. She was overly friendly with male colleagues and didn't seem to set boundaries. We ended it after one year it wasn't for me. She was a beautiful, stunning woman but culturally too much of a libertine for me. I will stick with American women or Hispanic.

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok thanks for sharing and sorry to hear your relationship ended but sounds like it was the right move.

    • @50shadesofgday64
      @50shadesofgday64 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not aussie if her parents were egyptian but I get it.

    • @smokeybirdman
      @smokeybirdman 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Was her name mariam? Because ur story sounds very similar to mine

    • @smokeybirdman
      @smokeybirdman 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@50shadesofgday64there's many aussies, who are very Australian with migrant parents

    • @royzevisionneur2045
      @royzevisionneur2045 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What about south east Asians? Do they have boundaries?

  • @samuelcoutts2648
    @samuelcoutts2648 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Being an Aussie who used to live in Melbourne for most of my life, but now happily living in Europe for the last 6 years. I remember that Aussie girls love the English accent and like that you are from somewhere different. Easier in Aus for guys if you are from another country and somewhat attractive with a personality. English, Irish, Brazilian, Italian, Spansih, German, French all have it easier. Next best thing to a celebrity, something different for the girls.

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Samuel, thanks for sharing and yes it's good to be different. Pleased your doing well in Europe. It's a place I miss. Cheers for stopping and watching 👍

    • @bunniewood
      @bunniewood 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As an Aussie woman I can stand the English or Irish chav accent. But yeah having an accent will make you stand out

    • @Squirmish999
      @Squirmish999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What about American accent (not an annoying one)

    • @emmabower9654
      @emmabower9654 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's not what it is. Guys from overseas actually try. They do the little things that count They actually put some effort in they actually ask you out full stop!!!

    • @thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
      @thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@datingthorpe Repent and Believe the good news of Jesus Christ to be forgiven your many sins , Heaven not Hell

  • @MrBlackjack456
    @MrBlackjack456 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Australian Dating Culture: What Men Really Think"
    Introduction:
    This video explores the perspectives of men on Australian dating culture, specifically focusing on the experiences of single men in major cities like Sydney. The narrator, David Thorp, an Englishman who has been living in Sydney for six years and recently married an Australian woman, shares his insights and those of other men he has interviewed.
    The video presents interviews with various men, who share their thoughts and experiences on dating in Sydney. Some key points raised include:
    1. Sydney can be challenging for dating due to people's perceived "stuck-up" attitudes and the tendency to be absorbed in their own bubbles, making organic interactions difficult.
    2. Accents and cultural diversity can work to one's advantage in attracting interest from women.
    3. Cold approaches and putting oneself out there are necessary in Sydney's dating scene, as people are less inclined to socialize spontaneously.
    4. Online dating apps have gained popularity due to the perceived difficulty of meeting people organically.
    5. Sydney offers a diverse dating pool with people from various cultural backgrounds, creating a unique and attractive dynamic.
    David Thorp shares his personal experiences and observations:
    1. He was pleasantly surprised by the femininity, attractiveness, and fitness-oriented lifestyles of Australian women, contrary to negative stereotypes.
    2. Australian women often have diverse cultural backgrounds, speaking multiple languages and embracing their heritage alongside Australian culture.
    3. The dating culture in Australia is similar to other Western countries, with a typical progression from meeting at bars, going on dates, and potentially transitioning into relationships.
    4. Cold approaches and online dating are viable options for meeting potential partners in Australia.
    5. Thorp highly recommends Australia, particularly Sydney, for its dating opportunities, attractive women, and overall lifestyle.
    Conclusion:
    The summary encapsulates the video's main points; however, for detailed understanding, watch the entire video.

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Mr Black Jack!

  • @user-bi2en7um5v
    @user-bi2en7um5v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im japanese I’ve lived in Australia more than 1 year but I have been struggling especially hearing what Aussie says in real conversations
    this channel is so helpful for me😊
    Thank you!

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great to hear this and thank you for watching the channel and welcome to Australia! Hope to see you here more!

  • @michaelturner1892
    @michaelturner1892 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Sorry but, I grew up here and it was absolutely terrible for not just years decades being a young single man here. The thought of going to a nightclub or bar gives me a lot of anxiety and honestly a lot of anger and that’s any venue here. I met someone who was so kind to me understandin, feminine and beautiful from Fiji. I treat her like queen and me the same. I’ve tried to move past these issues past somethings are just irreparable after years and years of bad experiences.

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sorry to hear this Michael but pleased you found a nice lady in the end. Sydney's nightlife isn't great but I found lots of dating opportunities here. Each to their own and thanks for watching 👍

  • @JezaLoki
    @JezaLoki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Perth and Melbourne women are super stuck up and snobby. You can find friendly down to earth women but they probably born and raised in another country.

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for commenting. Always wanted to travel to Perth.

    • @carlmeckelburg5784
      @carlmeckelburg5784 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      100% agreed, been in perth all my life, building in the country and then looking overseas. We deserve better

    • @thrusta100
      @thrusta100 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You didn’t mention Sydney! They take the cake for snobby self absorbedness!

    • @masteryoda498
      @masteryoda498 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @JezaLoki
      Sydney is worse, Sydney vvomen are about as approachable as a 7 metre long Great White shark.

    • @superal9635
      @superal9635 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I learned a new word when I moved here from England: "Entitled"......most Australian women I've met are very entitled, and feel superior to men

  • @aussiewanderer6304
    @aussiewanderer6304 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    9:06 "height doesn't matter" says the 6 ft 7 guy.

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Raman, 5ft 5 said the same thing.

    • @rahibismayilov2938
      @rahibismayilov2938 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what about you , david, whats your height?

  • @Li-jn2qz
    @Li-jn2qz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Could you please explain why your friends said that Australia is not as good compared to Russia, Brazil and America? I am curious

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's because they hadn't been to Australia but had been to these other countries. They assumed Australia is so far away there's not much going on and couldn't project what it would be like.

  • @bigrobsydney
    @bigrobsydney 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've lived overseas for a few decades and recently returned to Australia. Culturally, Australia is VERY conservatives on average, but of course, there will always be outliers. Remember, the exception does not prove the rule.
    That said, Australian's tend to be very wary about putting themselves out there. Most guys are sick and tired of rejection, and wont bother unless things are "perfect", which rarely happens. I say this, after watching many of my friends who are single, really struggle. And I'm trying to raise my children in such a way that they are a little more open minded, but this goes against the cultural conditioning, and unfortunately the rubbish being propagated on social media forums.

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Rob. For the Australians I know more of them are quite happy staying put in country and the remaining few do want to travel, learn and broaden their horizons. The issue is Australia is just so far away from everywhere else. Agree with you on the conservative nature despite appearances. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍

  • @cristobal.ashton
    @cristobal.ashton 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Australia ain't cheap to live

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No it isn't!

  • @Evie170
    @Evie170 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Haha, the 'shouty' women are in Victoria, not so much in Sydney... :)

  • @Howtown266
    @Howtown266 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2:50 - "when a relationship would appear", what do you mean by that exactly, David?

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When a woman would want a relationship with me. Either communicated overtly or discreetly.

  • @doctorprepper8106
    @doctorprepper8106 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Are Latin men successful with Australian women? Or are they viewed as second class?

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes some are successful with Australian women that I have seen. There is a stereotype that they are passport chasing Australian women but I've never seen this myself first hand.

    • @OccidentalAryan
      @OccidentalAryan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      VVomen care about facial attractiveness first and foremost. If you're a good looking Latin man then yes, vvomen will be receptive to you. If you're average or below, then probably not.

    • @doctorprepper8106
      @doctorprepper8106 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OccidentalAryan
      Status is a lot more important than facial beauty.
      in the UK I felt like Latin women were desired by local men and Latin men were undesirable as they were viewed as lower status.

    • @bmoaccordion4969
      @bmoaccordion4969 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am American of Mexican descent and was in a relationship with an Aussie girl whose parents were Egyptian. She was lovely at first, like you said in the video, very feminine. However, after six months, it became a nightmare. Culturally acceptable to drink after work with coworkers was a red flag. She was overly friendly with male colleagues and didn't seem to set boundaries. We ended it after one year it wasn't for me. She was a beautiful, stunning woman but culturally too much of a libertine for me. I will stick with American women or Hispanic.

  • @abusaid8907
    @abusaid8907 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hookup or casual sex easy or hard to get in Australia?

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Depends on the man, depends on the woman

    • @masteryoda498
      @masteryoda498 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @abusaid8907
      I can’t speak for the rest of Australia, but Sydney is very tough for dating and hookups if you’re not a good looking man.

  • @user-gf9ui1wp1k
    @user-gf9ui1wp1k 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Australia 🇦🇺 is just most established country Women want be put on petal .!!!just don’t give the time of day. Avoid at the work place gym at all cost unfortunately at church as well.!!! Just your money and travel to Thailand Bail and Pl .

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Erm...thank you

  • @heidithesausage
    @heidithesausage 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Welcome & Congratulations. UK accent's go a long way here. Each state has it's own unique market & conditions I think.
    Interesting to hear how we are perceived by men both here & overseas. A play to win attitude goes a long way towards winning.
    We are all mixed breed's or Bitsa's here. Bitsa this Bitsa that. 😂 Great video thanks

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Heidi thanks for stopping by and love the username :) I'll be using 'Bitsa' in my vocabulary going forward! Glad you enjoyed the video and hope to see you here soon.

  • @JoySnake313
    @JoySnake313 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    been here for a year and definitely Australia is the worst country for dating and I have been to other countries like the LA, Netherlands and other middle eastern countries. I think dating is good for some but not all and it is racial thing and some traits that women in Australia required

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ok sorry to hear this. I think Sydney in particular is excellent for dating. How are you going about meeting people here for dating?

    • @JoySnake313
      @JoySnake313 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@datingthorpe I am just on online dating I have been searching for a year and found nothing if I would search for a gold I would definitely find some 😅

    • @JoySnake313
      @JoySnake313 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@datingthorpe and as I said could be for you but not for other people I am Middle Eastern not tall my height is 173 and doing masters so I don’t know honestly what’s is the problem here if you can enlighten me

  • @stargirletc.
    @stargirletc. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    patrick is right people in sydney can be horrible

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They can be, also can be amazing too. Thanks for stopping by :)

    • @lisajoyaslanis
      @lisajoyaslanis 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Heyyy...I am from Sydney...although not raised there..am from Adelaide!
      We are all a little different....

  • @southerncrosshempoil
    @southerncrosshempoil วันที่ผ่านมา

    You should get some experience, newly wed man - married guy 20 years

  • @arigato22
    @arigato22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I actually like the English accent but English men and pretty much the whole of the male British population don't like me! Dating in Sydney is impossible for me. I think there a lot of options for guys as I know so many guys who date a different woman each night or week (or sleep with them) but for women, we're always looking for something solid and lasting whereas all the men don't want anything serious. I and many of my female friends remain single indefinitely; we're the has been's! Men have so many women to pick from that having a good job, your own place, being fit and active, and looking good is just not enough anymore to attract a guy in this day and age! I don't think Australians like being approached and though I like approaching people, it's not welcomed. I have a lot of foreign friends and I find it easier to get along with foreigners as I've lived abroad a few times and my foreign female friends all prefer foreign guys over Aussie guys. I love Aussie men but like Brits, they also don't like me! At the very least, you can keep yourself active and busy with hobbies and friends even if dating is abysmal in Australia.

    • @Texasno420
      @Texasno420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s pretty simple - trust me. All you have to do is smile, make physical contact (touch his shoulder, hands) and then tell him you are attracted to him and would like to get to know you. Trust me your a female and 8 out of 10 times this will work

    • @Texasno420
      @Texasno420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And it doesn’t matter if your 100 pounds or 300 pounds it will work 8 out of 10 times regardless.

    • @aussiewanderer6304
      @aussiewanderer6304 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As a man over 40, I'm slightly suspicious of women who show interest in me, especially attractive ones, which is a leftover from high school when popular girls used to prank average guys by pretending to be interested in them.
      I think the best way forward for women is to show genuine interest in the guy, ask if they'd be interested in having lunch/dinner and, this is the important part, say that you don't want him to pay, you'd just like to get to know him better.
      The other suspicion of women these days is that they are just after a free meal and have no real interest in the guy, which too many are.

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry to hear you're having a hard time dating @arrigato22. Sounds like a rough experience in Sydney. Perhaps move abroad and relocate?

    • @arigato22
      @arigato22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@datingthorpe I have actually! Lived in Japan and Singapore in different periods of my life over the years. I speak Japanese as well and a few bits of pieces of other langugaes. But my family is here and my parents are aging and need care.
      Anyway, I picked up diving as a hobby and all my money goes there. I have a decent job (at the moment) to support it, a mortgage and my own place... so I'm tied here for now. It's not too bad to live as I love the lifestyle of working out and swimming after work.
      Just dating sucks! Or not dating I suppose.

  • @ThomasGibson-r9c
    @ThomasGibson-r9c 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do they like Kiwi guys?

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep!

    • @heidithesausage
      @heidithesausage 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Love a Kiwi. You're generally great fun & we get each others humour. All welcome. ☺

    • @lisajoyaslanis
      @lisajoyaslanis 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@datingthorpe Yes at least I did...but he drank too much, doesn' t mix with driving, or friendship!

  • @mkuc6951
    @mkuc6951 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Grew up in Melbourne but live in Europe. Find Melbourne girls totally closed off hard to talk to nothing special.

    • @datingthorpe
      @datingthorpe  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'll be filming there in September so watch this space!

  • @masteryoda498
    @masteryoda498 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was born in Sydney, and I still live here (unfortunately), but the dating culture is brutal.
    If you’re not a tall, good looking man, you’re going to struggle hard, especially if look Asian, Middle Eastern or Indian.
    Sydney is not a friendly city, it’s socially disconnected.
    But I will say Sydney has the best b.r0thels in Australia if you want to pay for a root.

    • @lisajoyaslanis
      @lisajoyaslanis 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ouch!. Am sure any nan can find his wat to a cat house!
      Talking relationships!!