"you took a province? you're playing wide?" "we're not gonna concern ourselves of that" "change the culture of these provinces" *Laith being historically accurate 15C Koreans for three whole minutes* (I am not even joking lol)
0:32 The Hopae(호패) System was a pre-modern equivalent of a universal ID card system. It was meant to be handed out to all men regardless of class. Local and central governments could use this to *collect taxes and conscript soldiers.* It was crude and barely effective by today's standard, but it deserves an "At Least You Tried" cake. Today's equivalent of the Hopae is made of plastic instead of wood. It doesn't state a person's class because it's not a thing anymore. Instead, a photo is printed on one side, and one of 10 fingerprints is printed on the other. It can be used to collect taxes, conscript soldiers, *and* ID voters. Source: my wallet.
This may be an odd question but was this what was used in the TV show Kingdom? The crown prince and his protector displayed theirs on occasion for identification purposes so I was wondering if this was similar to the Hopae system or a reference to it?
for me as I played Machu I have to declare war as fast as possible ( take entire their northern and then so on ) bc Korean is a kind of not want to declare war to another country they like internal development so their development and Armies and Fort really quality and hard to conquer when the time come )
I played a Korea game once and the challenge was to become an empire rank without expanding a single province. Korea has 20 province at the start so each province ahoud have been 50 dev. I finished it until 1600. At that point there was no possible bulidings to be built. That was the tallest run I ever had.
Oh Korea, I played it with Europa Expanded once where you can form a flavourful Korean China (if you have mandate and the land) and since I love playing tall its a perfect fit + the nice focuses you can use for them. Colonizing California as them is not mandatory, but very useful. 😄 Laith quotes of the day: "Oh my King lives quite long, I'm proud of him...I should stop talking" "War? We are not suited for something like that!" "Thats gonna starve the Europeans, perfect"
I enjoyed the little meme the editor added in. I feel like the editor’s personality should show more in future videos because it makes it quite entertaining! 😊
I once did the Victorian Three Achievement and decided to play tall on my own terms. I owned all of the Kongo, Great Lakes, Zanzibar and Cape trade nodes and nothing else. Then i had minimum 20 dev in everu province by the end. Loads above 30 and quite a few above forty.
Infrastructure ideas has "Expand Administration Cost -100%", you looked at "Expand Infrastructure" in the tab. Expand administration is a state interaction.
Laith makes a joke about shunning Shun's offer I actually find it funny realise it's 2am and let out a sigh of relief that I am not turning into my dad
BTW Manchuria *will* attack you when the truce expires if you have no allies with only 14K troops. You kinda want them to because when you're inward focused you can not attack without a stability penalty. They usually are not able to call in allies and you can easily fend them off by letting them go for your fort then attack them on it, it will also give you time to build to force limit and then finish the force limit mission for the bonuses just for that war as you'll need the bonuses. Once you defeat them, humiliate them for the age bonus and take all their money. You don't really want to expand into Manchuria until you get the event in 1600 for the coring (in 90% of games they never invade the Ming, instead the Ming just implode and the Hordes just pick away at the borders until everyone gets locked into alliance webs). Instead you want to focus on building a fleet and going after Japan, which for some reason unifies very quickly now, usually by 1530, that is if you want to expand. Ming usually implodes around 1550, so your focus should shift to expansion after 1600 once you're super tall with two 30 stack armies. The reason I say this is because Korean military missions focus heavily on firepower and artillery, which you will have neither of until 1500 and won't have any *good* firepower and artillery until 1600; So save getting your 100% firepower 2 star general until then; By which point Ming usually would of shattered.
In my opinion, the best tall nation is... Ming. Plenty low dev cost provinces, you just have to crush the northern hords early and then you chill untill 1821.
Ah yes, the Roman empire method of playing tall. "I don't plan to conquer anything I don't have to.... unless I act in defence, then I will conquer everything."
Inspired me to try out Korea, speed run their mission tree for all them permanent modifiers & then swap to Japan who also gets some cool dev cost modifiers for their main isle. :D
So, my issue, which is something I actually see quite often, is that according to paradox, the goal of EU 4 to "win" is to have the highest overall score at the end of the game, reflecting who is the greatest power...every time you reduce unit maintenance, not only does it weaken your army but it lowers your military ranking and overall score which is bad for winning... if possible, try not to lower unit maintenance at all. Just build an army you can afford normally, and overtime youll still gain more military rank points and overall score, thus "winning" the game faster... your amy is also stronger if it's smaller and better maintained than if it's larger but with less maintenance, especially since it also affects the morale of the army... this means a smaller, weaker but well maintained army will ALMOST ALWAYS beat a larger ,stronger army that has less funds devoted for maintenance costs... think about it this way, your army can be the most powerful and largest in the world, but without guns, ammo, and food, they can't fight and become useless...youd have ended the video as the #1 greatest power instead of #2 if youd done it this way and NOT lowered unit maintenance at the beginning. Just take the debt until you build up the required income
it would be nice if during tall play we only allowed to conquer max one area, and can move on only after converting it's culture and religion to our own
what is it that makes ming break tributary ? is it number of provinces? total development? army size? seems odd to me that they always break tributary with me when im finally getting strong enough to beat them.. youd think theyd not want to do it then, or do it earlier
When I played as Korea not only was Ming aggressive, they had really high mandate. Destroyed Oirat after Mongolia broke free, then destroyed Mongolia. Then moved down taking out Lan Xang, Dai Viet and leaving them smaller and as tributaries. Was awful. Luckily they loved me so I had Japan and most of the Indonesian islands.
Imagine an alternate timeline colonialism gets founded by Asians. the world goes around them while europeans has a legacy the same as ming had to us now.
i keep trying to play tall and its just boring.. there isnt enough in the game to make it interesting.. if they add economic stuff from victoria 3 into eu5, and intrigue stuff from ck3 into it then eu5 could be fun for playing tall.. i think they should make the game so you have much more serious problems from warring.. more devastation, more economy problems... and that you war less often but can take more land.. ie no more 30 wars against ottomans.. i think if you fully take a nation, you should be able to take like 10-30 provinces, but then be unable to war again for 10-30 years while u sort your country out again.. and when a nation is fully occupied it should devastate the country and give it a high chance of collapsing into smaller nations.. that way you dont have to keep fighting ottomans who stay the exact same strength cos they took more provinces in the 15 year truce than you could take in the 5 year war. while at peace you should get bonuses to building stuff and becoming richer... so it deters warring constantly but when you do win a war the rewards are much greater.
No mp, I stick around throw you a like, let me know if you come near Chicago, my wife thinks you're cute, she would probably let you trade in favors to break alliance for a few hours
Found? It was there all this time!
"you took a province? you're playing wide?"
"we're not gonna concern ourselves of that"
"change the culture of these provinces"
*Laith being historically accurate 15C Koreans for three whole minutes* (I am not even joking lol)
I see Laith is actually American.
No no no, he's revealing to us that he is actually Sejong reborn
Lol I was about to comment about the clickbait title, Korea's been known as a great beginner country for a long time now.
Christopher Columbus is that you?
As koifish said "not tall not wide but big"
Big Bohemia
@@littlekingdom7636 indeed
@@FirasAlkadmani توؤ إنتبه اسمك عربي
@@littlekingdom7636 أبي من سوريا وأمي من التشيك
@@FirasAlkadmani oh so ether you use translation or you only speak in standard
0:32 The Hopae(호패) System was a pre-modern equivalent of a universal ID card system. It was meant to be handed out to all men regardless of class. Local and central governments could use this to *collect taxes and conscript soldiers.* It was crude and barely effective by today's standard, but it deserves an "At Least You Tried" cake.
Today's equivalent of the Hopae is made of plastic instead of wood. It doesn't state a person's class because it's not a thing anymore. Instead, a photo is printed on one side, and one of 10 fingerprints is printed on the other. It can be used to collect taxes, conscript soldiers, *and* ID voters.
Source: my wallet.
americans: universal ids for voting 😮
@SylveonSimp that's a drivers license! you have em too
This may be an odd question but was this what was used in the TV show Kingdom? The crown prince and his protector displayed theirs on occasion for identification purposes so I was wondering if this was similar to the Hopae system or a reference to it?
That's a pretty neat thing ngl.
@@treytonmach7455It had a dragon on it, if I recall correctly. I got the impression that it was a royal symbol.
Korea is so good at playing tall, even the AI is doing it!
( AI Korea is the most annoying nation to invade according to my inner Qing player)
I remember as persia I I invade it and converted them into zoroastrianism😂(they are really annoying mostly in late game with thire forts )
for me as I played Machu I have to declare war as fast as possible ( take entire their northern and then so on ) bc Korean is a kind of not want to declare war to another country they like internal development so their development and Armies and Fort really quality and hard to conquer when the time come )
Korea is super easy to beat as Manchu, just draw their troops out of the peninsula and you win
I played a Korea game once and the challenge was to become an empire rank without expanding a single province. Korea has 20 province at the start so each province ahoud have been 50 dev. I finished it until 1600. At that point there was no possible bulidings to be built. That was the tallest run I ever had.
Oh Korea, I played it with Europa Expanded once where you can form a flavourful Korean China (if you have mandate and the land) and since I love playing tall its a perfect fit + the nice focuses you can use for them. Colonizing California as them is not mandatory, but very useful. 😄
Laith quotes of the day:
"Oh my King lives quite long, I'm proud of him...I should stop talking"
"War? We are not suited for something like that!"
"Thats gonna starve the Europeans, perfect"
I enjoyed the little meme the editor added in. I feel like the editor’s personality should show more in future videos because it makes it quite entertaining! 😊
Bro the TV Ads for youtube are insane these days. I had like 5 minutes of unskipable ads at a time twice last time I tried to watch anything there.
Adblock Plus is man's best plugin, it is known.
Use adblocker 💪
I once did the Victorian Three Achievement and decided to play tall on my own terms. I owned all of the Kongo, Great Lakes, Zanzibar and Cape trade nodes and nothing else. Then i had minimum 20 dev in everu province by the end. Loads above 30 and quite a few above forty.
Infrastructure ideas has "Expand Administration Cost -100%", you looked at "Expand Infrastructure" in the tab. Expand administration is a state interaction.
You can absolutely expand while playing tall. Hard to argue that irl Belgium was playing wide when they had overseas possessions
38:58 You can hear a bit of fear in Laith's voice. Burgundy AI is doing it again. Burgundy 🤝Great Britain.
Laith makes a joke about shunning Shun's offer
I actually find it funny realise it's 2am and let out a sigh of relief that I am not turning into my dad
BTW Manchuria *will* attack you when the truce expires if you have no allies with only 14K troops. You kinda want them to because when you're inward focused you can not attack without a stability penalty. They usually are not able to call in allies and you can easily fend them off by letting them go for your fort then attack them on it, it will also give you time to build to force limit and then finish the force limit mission for the bonuses just for that war as you'll need the bonuses. Once you defeat them, humiliate them for the age bonus and take all their money. You don't really want to expand into Manchuria until you get the event in 1600 for the coring (in 90% of games they never invade the Ming, instead the Ming just implode and the Hordes just pick away at the borders until everyone gets locked into alliance webs). Instead you want to focus on building a fleet and going after Japan, which for some reason unifies very quickly now, usually by 1530, that is if you want to expand. Ming usually implodes around 1550, so your focus should shift to expansion after 1600 once you're super tall with two 30 stack armies. The reason I say this is because Korean military missions focus heavily on firepower and artillery, which you will have neither of until 1500 and won't have any *good* firepower and artillery until 1600; So save getting your 100% firepower 2 star general until then; By which point Ming usually would of shattered.
Always a great day to see some Korea gameplay as it is my favorite nation to play as in EU4.
Same here
Best nation for good borders.
So early the bots aren't even here
In my opinion, the best tall nation is... Ming. Plenty low dev cost provinces, you just have to crush the northern hords early and then you chill untill 1821.
the literati purge has screwed me every single korea game ive played
I'd love to see more of this campaign if you'd be up to continuing it!
Ah yes, the Roman empire method of playing tall.
"I don't plan to conquer anything I don't have to.... unless I act in defence, then I will conquer everything."
Inspired me to try out Korea, speed run their mission tree for all them permanent modifiers & then swap to Japan who also gets some cool dev cost modifiers for their main isle. :D
I played colonial korea and conquered basically all of the americas and i had like 45 dev in every province in korea
Laith playing tall? Impossible!
The editing felt weird this video
The fact you didn't use your navy in the first war was so frustrating lol.
So, my issue, which is something I actually see quite often, is that according to paradox, the goal of EU 4 to "win" is to have the highest overall score at the end of the game, reflecting who is the greatest power...every time you reduce unit maintenance, not only does it weaken your army but it lowers your military ranking and overall score which is bad for winning... if possible, try not to lower unit maintenance at all. Just build an army you can afford normally, and overtime youll still gain more military rank points and overall score, thus "winning" the game faster... your amy is also stronger if it's smaller and better maintained than if it's larger but with less maintenance, especially since it also affects the morale of the army... this means a smaller, weaker but well maintained army will ALMOST ALWAYS beat a larger ,stronger army that has less funds devoted for maintenance costs... think about it this way, your army can be the most powerful and largest in the world, but without guns, ammo, and food, they can't fight and become useless...youd have ended the video as the #1 greatest power instead of #2 if youd done it this way and NOT lowered unit maintenance at the beginning. Just take the debt until you build up the required income
Koreafornia gave me a good long laugh, cheers
I saw that France once and it was crazy it was probably few months ago
Laith is cutting to the tall game
Day 297 of asking for an Oranje Free State Playthrough of Vicky 3.
yes
it would be nice if during tall play we only allowed to conquer max one area, and can move on only after converting it's culture and religion to our own
what is it that makes ming break tributary ? is it number of provinces? total development? army size? seems odd to me that they always break tributary with me when im finally getting strong enough to beat them.. youd think theyd not want to do it then, or do it earlier
Playing tall is boring playing wide is epic
Princess Leia is that you?
When I played as Korea not only was Ming aggressive, they had really high mandate. Destroyed Oirat after Mongolia broke free, then destroyed Mongolia. Then moved down taking out Lan Xang, Dai Viet and leaving them smaller and as tributaries. Was awful. Luckily they loved me so I had Japan and most of the Indonesian islands.
did you really find it if it's been there?
We want a sequel!!!
Tv viewers mentioned 😊
Imagine an alternate timeline colonialism gets founded by Asians. the world goes around them while europeans has a legacy the same as ming had to us now.
Incredible intro lol
Part 2 please
It's always been that
How long have I not watch a video for?
That's what I thought after seeing your hair
Also I want to replicate it now
you should start posting cs2 clips
Ill have to send you my current korea campaign to show u how its really done 😉
Korea is one of my favorite countries to play tall and take over China and Japan to become a world power
Day 60 of asking you to play Victoria 2 semi regulary.
You can quite easily colonize the americas as korea as well.
Found???
No bots?
more korea
He's played wayyy too many minors, Laith forgot about the majors
All this shitty missios in whole game has a overpowered buffs
i keep trying to play tall and its just boring.. there isnt enough in the game to make it interesting.. if they add economic stuff from victoria 3 into eu5, and intrigue stuff from ck3 into it then eu5 could be fun for playing tall.. i think they should make the game so you have much more serious problems from warring.. more devastation, more economy problems... and that you war less often but can take more land.. ie no more 30 wars against ottomans.. i think if you fully take a nation, you should be able to take like 10-30 provinces, but then be unable to war again for 10-30 years while u sort your country out again.. and when a nation is fully occupied it should devastate the country and give it a high chance of collapsing into smaller nations.. that way you dont have to keep fighting ottomans who stay the exact same strength cos they took more provinces in the 15 year truce than you could take in the 5 year war. while at peace you should get bonuses to building stuff and becoming richer... so it deters warring constantly but when you do win a war the rewards are much greater.
No mp, I stick around throw you a like, let me know if you come near Chicago, my wife thinks you're cute, she would probably let you trade in favors to break alliance for a few hours
Thats crazy and I cant even tell if this is a troll post
you didn't take innovative? With them Thats almost always my first idea.
Stop zooming in your face 😭
KOREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
daje
[x] views in [x] seconds, [youtuber] really fell off
240 views in 5 minutes? Laith really fell off
837 views in 16 minutes? Laith really fell off
I like this campaign and I want it to continue but it won't happen cause of woke.
USE RELIGOUS CULTURE PRIVLEDGE
Laith playing tall? Impossible!