What if Greece Took Back Constantinople? (Megali Idea)
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Give us the stellaris video you promised.
Your EaW got 10k likes.
Thanks for enlightening me
I've been making the same suggestion for so long, since I think the second one of these "what if" scenarios.
But mine is "What If the Allies invaded Greece instead of Italy"
Also, 39:30 the communist Hungarian revolt was a real thing and it did happen right as the war collapsed. It likely didn't matter whether the communists in Russia rose or not as the Hungarians were gonna launch their revolution anyways.
The Hungarian Soviet Repuic lasted, IRL from March 1919 until August 1919
Bro Hungary was red during the 1918 to 1920 war but was crushed by the opposition.
What if the Qing dynasty never collapsed?
Pls like
@@PancakeNation1OMg, begging for likes??
Bro shush up your not him
Good one
@@Jeremie-cc2qq thanks
The Hungarian Soviet republic did exist in our timeline. It failed in its invasion of Czechoslovakia and Romania, and was replaced by a regency.
A regency led by an admiral. Of a landlocked nation
@@Lady_Evelyn💀💀💀💀💀
The Balkans really were such a fucking wild place during the interwar period. We honestly need a game or a mod for hoi4 for that time period. So much interesting stuff happened
@@Lady_Evelynit wasn't landlocked when it was Austro Hungary
@@erdood3235 Horny was the leader after the failed revolution.
“What if Greece gets Constantinople”
**Greece did not get Constantinople**
😂
I swear this game's ai is just the turkish nationalists bitch because it keeps on making allies fail and greece not get the lands stak wanted
😂
"WHY IS GREECE A MAJOR POWER?!" - Stayuki every time Greece is relevant to the playthrough
fun fact: Hungary in our own time line was commonest in 1919 for a brief time about 133 days in a very abridged summery in 1918 the first Hungarian republic was formed then they over though the democratic government and refused any territorial losses and this was one of the reasons why Hungary was punished no badly after ww1
Oh damn that's interesting
@@someguy1735 commonest XD
Minor correction, the king of Greece and the Greek royal family was danish, NOT german.
Stakyui, god love him, often makes very specific, distinct, tiny errors.
Yes, the House of Gluksberg.
Well, technically, it's a cadet branch of the house of Oldenburg, which is was, in fact, German
my brain is rot from {"a":2,"b":1,"c":21,"d":31,"e":{"a":" ","b":29,"c":30,"d":[". "],"e":["victoria. I"],"f":[0]},"f":"There may be a grammatical issue in this sentence. Consider rephrasing it.","g":false,"h":"Correctness","i":false} thought it
what the fuck
The sequel to this video: what would the reformed Byzantium do in WW2 (us console commands to reform Byzantium in the beginning of the game)
What if? Brother we're preparing to take it back right NOW!
Nuh uh
No, we're not, and stop spreading idiotic expansive propaganda that not even you would actually want.
Deus vult
YES! To Constantinople! Charge! Byzantium shall return
NEVER, GLORY TO THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE AND THE SULTAN🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
The Hungarien soviet republic happaned in real life too and it was beaten up by mainly Czechoslovakia and Romania and it ended up with Romanian occupation of Budapest
Possibly in this timeline it wouldn’t even happen because the Hungarian soviet republic well thought that soviets would well help
Them but in this timeline soviet don’t exist so…
@@AdvancedGamer- agreed with you
What if Japan restored the Ottoman sultanate in Sinkiang? (This was an actual proposed idea by the Japanese if they won the war in China)
The Turks are going back to Asia with this one
Can you explain more please?
@@talha6852Turkic peoples live in the north western regions of China, these people are often called Uyghurs but there are a few regional names. the Japanese had the idea to essentially carve up China into multiple smaller and easier to manage countries. Quite literally divide and conquer.
Since the ottoman empire was predominantly run by ethnic Turks, the Japanese believed that they could place the defunct ottoman heir in a position over the Uyghur Turks as their king, in a similar way to how they placed Qing Puyi as emperor over Manchuria.
In reality the Turkish and Uyghurs are quite different culturally from one another, and in all likelihood the Uyghurs would’ve viewed a Turkish monarchy as just as foreign as a Japanese one
@@lamb_link thank you for explanation
LET’S GO!
TYSM for doing my idea Stak
Stakuyi: I'm here to tell a story
Game: I'm going to destroy the story xD
game: im gonna make all the turkish nationalists happy and piss off everyone else
Hungary actually was a Soviet republic for a short time after WW1, under Bela Kun.
What if King Edward never abdicated the throne and married Wallis simpson
You'd have a British Republic by 1945
What if at the start of the Siberian intervention, Japan finds Alexei Romanov and makes him a puppet ruler of Siberia to justify their ongoing “intervention”?
Yes Alexei Romanov is assassinated in July and the intervention starts in August, so either move the intervention forward a couple of months, or have the Czechoslovak Legion rescue Alexei and bring him to the Japanese.
Either way, Japan should remain in Siberia after October 1922, with enough legitimacy so that America doesn't embargo Japan or force Japan's withdrawal, & Japan can pay for the “intervention” with Siberian gold/iron/gems/fur.
There isn’t really any way he can do that since in the Great War redux mod there isn’t any way to create a puppet state for Japan led by a Romanov or anything like that
What if the Zimmerman telegram wasn’t intercepted
38:57 this actually happend irl it is a very interesting event that happend
😳😳 Ur such a Smart boy 😏
Always hyped when stakuyi drops
what if Texas never joined the usa
What if Yuan Shikai never got the presidency after the Xinhai Revolution?
What if the Soviet union had denied the molotov-ribbentrop pact
Then no poland, barbarossa would still happen, the western allies wouldnt have much of a problem with the soviets if they didnt invaded
What if Stakuyi had a cheeseburger instead of a bagel in the morning in Sarajevo, June 1914?
What if Czechoslovakia succesfully resisted the German invasion? (Sorry if this has already been done and i'm not aware)
Attempt 10: (Using the Great War Redux again) What if Italy honored the Triple Alliance and eventually joined the Central Powers when WWI comes around?
What if the United Arab Republic was a success? (Egypt/Cold War mod)
Do you mean Egypt keeps control of Syria or that they unite the whole Arab world
"France. how are you so bad?" Do you really need to ask that?
It's honestly really interesting to me that Greece or the Byzantines reclaiming Constantinople is so popular with everyone. Maybe it's because the Ottoman Empire was so much closer to our time than the Byzantines/Romans were, having only fallen after World War 1, or it could be because of the ways that the successive Turkish governments have conducted themselves since, from the Armenian Genocide to the modern-day demonization of the Kurdish people
Current Ruling party of Turkey gets half of their votes from kurds. Mister "Galactic sultan" erdogan even made kurmanji posters for kurdish majority cities. I love when westoids just consume what onesided media feeds them lmao
there is no demonization of Kurdish people but there is the demonization of Turkish people and history
I'd say it's a mixture of two aesthetics being popular in western culture those being the crusader and the roman. The roman aesthetic is obvious the byzantines were the Eastern roman empire. The crusader aesthetic is because its a Christian country retaking a holy city from a muslim nation.
Crusader fascist nonsense along with nationalist fervor for reclaiming glory in the form of war or territory. Add in racism of Turkish people or Arabs in general and belief in Roman superiority and worship.
The other more unserious answer is it's a quick and funny meme for online trolling.
Well spending more than a century being one of the worst places on the planet morally will tend to turn folks against you...
Bold of you to post this at the anniversary of the destruction of Smyrna....
You mean liberation of izmir from the hands of imperialist racists?
Using the Great War redux; what if the UK joined the central powers?
I can feel the flow of Turkish Nationalists flowing in as we speak to say that any genocides that happened in this video, or in reality, in fact did not, lol.
Notice how there was no event or discussion about genocides against balkan Turks ,muslim Greeks/Bulgarians or Jews?
@U87-z2w A: there was no balkan genocide against Jews around the time period of ww1
B: the governments of these countries generally don't make saying that ethnic cleansings of turks happened illegal, unlike Turkey which does for Armenians, assyrians and Greeks.
@@mappingshaman5280 This exactly.
I’m Turkish and I don’t go on entire nationalist rants on topics like these. This one in particular was super interesting and was one I was looking forward to.
@HistoryBuffBro
This exactly what?
"the governments of these countries generally don't make saying that ethnic cleansings of turks happened illegal"
What does this sentence even mean?
What if the Taiping Rebellion won? (You'll need to use the 'End of a New Beginning' mod)
What if Pearl Harbour succeeded in destroying all USN battleships at Pearl Harbour? (I recommend using the Vanilla Naval Rework mod with the Pacific war submod for this)
What if the United States adopted a more severe Manifest Destiny and conquered the entire western hemisphere?
What if Napoleon took over France again?
Well, they already figured out how to beat him, I don't expect much to change
What if hitler told his army to wait for the winter to pass in the winter of first year of operation Barbarossa
Fun fact! The Hungarians actually DID have their own communist revolution!
The kingdom accepted the humiliating peace terms
The Communists did *not*
They couped the government and invited the wrath of the Entente. The Treaty of Trianon was a punishment for Hungary FAFOing after the war.
What if Manchukuo became independent from Japan
Russia would also have an interest in taking Constantinople, in order to give their Black Sea fleet free access to the Mediterranean.
What if America focused on its economic policy and instead of going to Europe goes down Monroe doctrine
What if Mussolini wasn't bald?
What if italians got so pissed at mussolini for failing in greece that they start a civil war (im just memeing not a realistic scenarion)
What happens if the Spanish civil war happened earlier and ended sooner. Then Spain joins the axis and goes in on France from the south.
Finally someone remembering greece is a thing in Hoi4
It's 4 in the morning in Iran and honestly seeing the notif of your video gave meaning to my night.
What if Poland went with Dmowski's idea rather than the First Marshal's
Thanks for your work O7.
To make the story smoother, I recommend to place the story breaking moments like "fall of Paris" at the end of the video as bloopers. I felt like the story had to many unnecessary pauses.
(Explanation about the mod fault, we have to wait for the event, AI not doing as you want, ect. that you can do behind the scenes.) Maybe that way we can have a good and smooth story that we all can enjoy.
What if Bulgaria was able to capture Constantinople during the first Balkan war?
I'm surprised you still haven't started using mods like the Toolpack mod as they really help with HOI4 roleplay situations as well as in fixing any AI shenanigans which happen. The ability to transfer states, add manpower, factories and political power, as well as spawn in troops in any country can be really helpful when telling a story (especially when the French AI starts to die again for whatever reason).
A couple of ideas for you….
1) What if Japan joined the Allies after China allies with Germany and Italy in ‘35?
2) Mongolia uses armored cars as their light calvary to rebuild their empire?
Week 6 of asking @stakuyi to play Communist Hippogriffia in HoI4 EaW: Basically everything is mostly straght-forward, but I should notice that in case of losing North Zebrican War - Hippogriffia will get one of bad endings. Also you SHOULD be nice, otherwise Posada get depressed and commits nuclear self-un-aliving with 5 possible quick endings after that. In theory you can spare scientists for sweet-sweet bonuses only if you don't take other unethical options. Also side-note: Macawia does NOT affect on outcome, but if chose to get a puppet, they'll get a nice custom flag and also if you spare Razorbeak, she'll get amnesty at the end with a fun event. The last thing: No, you won't declare war on every nation, but you get a bunch of bonuses with new project of deep-penetration bomber(you need super-large airframe for that) and you need to justify on all supremacist nations(you get a discount on that too) until there will be left none and then press an event in the decisions. DO NOT USE H-BOMB!!! I REPEAT - NO ACTIVE THERMONUCES OR YOU'LL GET A SEMI-BAD END!!! It's a long run, but it's so op!
What if the heavenly kingdom won
What if the Netherlands formed the Benelux and held off the german invasion.
What if Poland held out during WW2?
What if world war 2 started 2 years later then the original time line
My suggestion, what if India declared independence from the UK early?
Kind of amusing to see you reroll saves because France somehow lost Paris on more than one occasion :D
A government split between two totally different political factions, unable to take action? Never seen that before...
What if you wanted to defeat Bulgaria,
but God said "The Fall of Paris."
Hungarian soviet republic existed in our timeline but they got wrecked by little entente
What if France attacked Germany when they attacked Poland
What if the Ottomans survived after WW1 (they still lost it but weren't beaten afterwards) (7)
What if the allies stood up for Czech in the Munich Agreement.
Here's a fun alternate history suggestion: what if the Taiping rebellion succeeded?
Fun fact: the Hungarian Soviet Republic was a very real thing, for a short while.
I like the idea of the butterfly effect of an expanded Balkan front leading to the fall of France.
What if Trotsky never got exiled
What if Bulgaria achieved all its territorial claims in WWI?
What if the Russian Empire sided with the German Empire in WW1 ?
38:57 The Hungarian Soviet Republic is actually historical. A sister republic to the USSR took power in Hungary after the war ended but Romania and Czechoslovak troops moved in and the soviet republic was collapsed.
What if Czechoslovakia would have resisted the Germans?
day 91 of asking for the cat to play Japan
Fixed points in time @stakuyi ! You messed with fixed points in time! If they don't happen, the resulting paradox destroys the universe!
Despite the pain of this mod being messy, this what if was fun.
39:00 This is actually fairly historical, as a communist government did briefly rule Hungary following the collapse of Austria Hungary. It ended up being dismantled during the war with Romania during the treaty of Trianon
Could be a good one for a episode full of niche challenges that can't be a full epiosde.
Play as New Zealand in GWR, and what if the Dardanelles campaign was a success?
What if Poland had lost the Battle of Warsaw in 1920, being absorbed into the Soviet Union?
So what I learned from your video is, if Greece went for the megali Idea we would have had a german victory. Damn greece, why couldnt it be like that in our time 😆
More fronts opened & fewer troops sent to France.
because our timeline doesn't simp for turk nationalists
What if Poland was competent during World War II?
What do you mean by competent?
@@typicaluser697 Managed not get totally conquered and then abandoned by allies. Not lose, basically
You should use player lead conference mod or some other state transfer mod to help you with the borders and the outcome of the conflicts
I think that when I tried to do the same, I went down the Venizelist path, won the civil war by destroying my entire army before the war started and then spawned 1 horse division and rushed the VPs, and after the war I got everything but if I remember correctly Russia went historical so they were not part of the peace deal
What if the Moroccan Crisis started WW1?
What if both superpowers lost the Cold War?
Staki, the Soviet Hungarian Republic is actually a historical thing and is why Hungary has the borders it has today.
What if Poland accepted the danzig proposal, lenghthening the 'peace in our time' doctorine?
The Royale Family in Greece, they were not German they were Danish. Otto was the only German king that Greece had ( Bavarian ) but he was forced to abdicate
Attempt 2:What if Operation Unthinkabke happened in 1945 or maybe in 1949?
It could be an interesting WW3 scenario to explore in my opinion.
Babeee, come quick, stakuyi made a new video.
lol when I tried to have a Greek reconquest run, world war 1 ended in 1916 and my ambitions got curtailed.
What if Bulgaria won the Second Balkan War
What if Italy entered the war in 1943 when Mussolini thought the war would start?
What if the Netherlands was more prepared and held the “Nieuw Hollandse Waterlinie” New Dutch waterline, a defensive line in wich they would flood half the country. This would be possible if the defeatist government was replaced and the Bombing of Rotterdam wouldn’t instantly capitulate the Dutch.
Should do IRL
What if the whites and reds in russia had to come to a peace and split the country with high tensions between them
What is Bulgaria won the second Balkan war (sorry for another WW1 idea)
"happy greek sounds"
What if the Soviet Union completely collapsed before ww2 (like between 1936 and ww2)
We are so back Byzantium bros
sadly the ruskis took the constantinople
Every time he says allies and not entente a French man dies
What If The League of The three emperors (Germany, Austria, russia) Had lasted into ww1?
What if Greece tried to revive Byzantium in WWII?
What if Turkey tried to revive the Ottoman empire in WWII?
And if it can actually be done in Heart of Iron 4, what if Al Andalus came back?