Is this the perfect upgrade? - Alpine Halo9 Thoughts
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- Is this Alpine Halo9 head unit replacement all 4Runner owners have been looking for? We're well on our way to finding out. Here's our first impressions after about 2 months of use.
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What do you think? Too expensive? Worth it for the features?
999/- Bucks omg!... Its too expensive for a 480p device... I would rather prefer a phone over this for GPS navigation, with a mirror mount holder..
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It is pricey. Is it worth the convenience of not using the tablet? In our JK I use an iPad. Similar setup to what you had. While not equal, this seems easier to get some of the info you want.
Too expensive for a device that is going to be quickly dated (if it isn't already with 480p) Not to mention when one function quits working (telemetry, relay circuitry etc.),the whole device will need to be replaced. I am more in favor or multiple items that have a lower per item replacement cost, especially in rugged dirty environments.
For as much as you travel, Overland expedition it's worth. Depending on durability/longevity.
It’s not a deal breaker in your book bc it’s free 🤣
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2:33 ACTUALLY starts the review
Great video. Honest reviews are important.
00:58 don't trust Crutchfield on the vehicle fit. It said the 11 inch Halo does not fit my 08 Titan and it was wrong. Fits and does just fine
Great video. I really like mine! I leave google maps on satellite mode, makes it much easier to see.
Great point! I'll make sure and cover that in the final review
480p on a $1500+ double din? That’s ridiculous. Thanks for the review! I was about to get this. A lot of great things but too many cons.
Thinking of getting this, what did you get instead?
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Nice video, thanks for sharing ✌
Thanks for watching!
For $1000, they need to address the issues that you bring up. I was strongly considering this head unit for my 98 LX470, but I'll hold off and wait until the improvements come. I have an old Pioneer head unit that has worked well for the past 10 years, so I can wait. Looks like they are about 90% to where I need it to be. Hopefully Alpine listens to your review and make the adjustments. Until then, I'll keep my dual iPad Mini setup on the dash.
I had that same gripe about android auto and google maps. my wife pointed out that you can use your phone as a keyboard by pressing the keyboard button on the display. i'm sure this is mentioned in the comments or you have figured that out. best wishes.
The not being able to use Google Maps on the unit and your phone is not limited to this unit.
The loss of phone controls has been something I have experienced on my Tundra ( stock head unit) as well. Overall I think these are more specific to Android Auto as a whole.
Correct same in my Yukon
You should do an episode on ham radio. I also have the FTM-400 like yourself and it’s awesome.
Last touch screen head unit I had was a Pioneer unit running a hack job Windows Mobile. The experience was just as janky then as the new ones are now. There’s no money in software fixes for older models so its always an arms race to keep buying new head units. When it finally came time to replace it, I just got a basic double din Kenwood unit with Bluetooth, USB port, 3 row LCD screen and lots of tactile buttons. I couldn’t be happier knowing it just works. Trying to put everything into a single device works on paper but fails in practice for me.
Hey Kevin, I bought this same unit except with the Tacoma trim package, (+$200). This unit was very impressive in my local dealers showroom, but I'm not sure I got what I thought I was getting. The apps available are very limited. I agree with your negative thoughts about your Alpine unit. I would like to know how to "jailbreak" it to show movies via AmazonVideo, etc. The air in my tires are 1-2#s off from my very accurate digital hand held gauge, (maybe not the head unit fault, but sensors). After two months, I'm still trying to figure out how to do things. It's very annoying to have to go through all the levels to get back to the music I was listening to before I shut the engine off, every time. I'm hoping that all the stuff I can't figure out is just a learning curve and it will get better, but right now, I don't think I got my money's worth from Alpine. I was hoping for an iPad on my dash. So far, this isn't it.
Imagine paying $1500 for anything that only has a 480p screen! I like the concept of this unit - trying to fit a larger touchscreen into a vehicle in a way that feels OEM - but the price and shortcomings just don't do it for me. I'll keep my RAM-mounted tablet for the time being.
Not a bad move 👍 we may test some other options in the future as well. Seems to be a popular device to upgrade.
@JGD going to be hard to fit that gaming PC into that din slot though
Is you backup camera aftermarket? If so, there is a yellow cable that you need to cut if you want to get ride of the parking lines.
It's factory, unfortunately.
Nice review. Looks like it been a useful upgrade. Hopefully it gets better with software upgrades. I guess if you add up the price of a decent head unit and a tablet it’s getting there on value for money?
Great review! What I’m hearing. It’s not ready, Don’t buy it, to expensive, has bugs, graphics suck. It has all the right stuff but it needs a refresh or more effort put into it. That’s my take away. I still like it but I’m not parting with $1500 for those flaws. Thanks for this!
I installed the w650 from alpine. Fairly inexpensive and works great. Waiting until the bigger units like this get a better resolution. I think it works great if you use Carplay.
another great video.. keep it up
Thanks, Walter!
im pretty sure there's a setting where you can use a satellite view of google maps on your head unit. mine is like that on my pioneer
I would rather spend that money on something more useful like roof rack, rock sliders or suspension upgrades or even better tires or wheels. Just use your existing phone or tablet to save your money.
I was loving the in-depth review and then I saw you were listening to Dresden Files and I came to express my approval for your literary choices. Love you guys!
Best. Books. Ever!
Do you know how the OnX Off-road maps and navigation look and work on the Alpine? I’ve been using On-X Off-road maps more then my Gaia maps lately as the On-X maps seem to have better trail condition updates.
With regards to the brightness, is there a wire in the harness that taps into the car's factory brightness dial? That's typical common in some harnesses.
Just got my wife a 2014 4runner, same thing with the head unit locking up. Updated the software, it's better, but not what it should be. I expect more from Toyota, very disappointed with how the stereo is in this thing. Sound quality isn't great either, even worse than my '98 4runner. But, it's my wife's car, so until she complains, it stays. She does want it lifted, so hopefully I can convince her to do nice big trips.
Can you give an update of this head unit in 2021? Asking because I just purchased it and no one seems to have mentioned anything since 2020
Mine is being installed on Monday and I'm nervous!! There is absolutely no 2021 updates anywhere!!
I know that the ilx-409 supposed to be an upgrade but it doesn’t have a few features as the 309 but it does have the option to add your own image. Albeit that you could do it to the 309 via a loophole. Tried it. It doesn’t work.
Way to bright at night this thing is blinding I’ll be switching to pioneer
Yeah, that's the biggest complaint. Wish it had a dimmer switch
I’d use an iPad mini instead of this. Higher resolution. Just my .02
Did the cameras image quality improve?
Where can I find more information about the switch interface you briefly mentioned?
Hola tu sabes como puedo sacar provecho del OBD de la computadora de una toyota land cruiser serie 80 1997. El conector de la computadora viene de 22 pines, pero se que existen adaptadores que pueden pasar a OBD2 de 16 Pines, podría sacarle provecho al radio? Si existe compatibilidad con esta versión, colocando el adaptador?
I enjoyed your review on this product, you have good communication skills.or maybe you just have a pretty mouth
You literally can adjust each source level individually so if you can make your iPhone volume level the same as the XM radio volume level. I’m sure by now he’s figured it out but this is a rookie mistake people make all the time with aftermarket headunits.
Can the gauges work in a 2018 Dodge Durango I only get the speed mph
What’s the phone mount!??? Looks very nice!
first thing i realized was he finally got a haircut hahaha
Finally! 😂
Do you still have it on your 4runner? I dont know what to buy! Need HELP!
That's great. How did you get the guages on there?
Hi, not sure if anybody knows but I’m new to this stuff, im investing in the halo 9 and wanted to know how the obd2 sensor connects. Can you plug a bluetooth obd2 into the cars port and connect to it on the stereo? Or must there be a hard connection?
Thanks.
I just put this same unit on my Sprinter van. You may not have this issue but on my van the resolution is much better directly behind the screen. I cannot however figure how to rotate the head unit toward the driver to make the resolution better. Have you found a way to rotate the head?
No, but it's a function I wish it had!
Crutchfield doesn’t even have Skoda? Sucks
So, I gotta ask since my head unit just died (hahaha dang it!); Are you going to be doing a follow up video for this? I ma looking at all kinds of solutions, and I'd love to hear how things have gone with this setup. Cheers!
My top three features from watching this video would be:
1) CarPlay
2) vehicle telemetry
3) switch/circuit controller.
Thanks for your preliminary review, it gives me goals for 2021’s upgrade.
That pricetag is a big pill to swallow though. We’ll see what the future holds.
Way too many deal breaks , 480, is the biggest
Hey I am really interested at your ham radio setup can you tell me more about it or maybe show them in a video?
It's the Yaesu FTM-400XDR. We will need to get around to doing a video on this soon. 👍
@@LifestyleOverland what kind of gooseneck mount is that for the Yaesu?? TIA
I can’t help but not I’ve the Ft400. Do you use APRS on the trail? K9PAL.
No, we've not used it yet. Need some free time to play with it 👍
What OBDII are you using? Thank you for all the great content
This one is included. But we also have a BaFX for torque app and BlueDriver for iOS
I have a 4th gen 2007 that I'd love this for..but for the price, 480 res and the other screen issues are a deal breaker...for now. They will upgrade the screen I'm sure and it'll be better. The new unit is Alpine iLX-F409. Not sure what the difference is but the screen is the same...not updated to 1080 yet. It's at $899 currently, but this doesn't include the toyota console or the datalink module. I don't see this whole package for sale anymore anywhere. Still going to wait for the updated screen resolution before I put money on it, but I like the way it's going.
Hey Kevin,
I had a few questions I was wondering if you could help with. The mobile phone, is the dial pad available when you are driving? Is TH-cam available when driving? I know you shouldn't watch it but I like to listen to my shows. Are you able to share all your apps from the phone to the deck or is their some kind of limitation. Finally, ( I know, long :) )w/ the ODB2 can you load apps for that? Thank you sir!
Sadly, this Alpine head unit will not work with my 2013. 🙁 I was really looking forward to upgrading, because my OEM head unit’s maps cannot even be updated. Pioneer made the unit and never provided updates!
I went with the T9 when they first upgraded it from the T8. Yeah, it has some horrible reviews, but if you get a good one (lol) it really is amazing. Mine is almost a year old with minimal issues.
Almost went that route but the delivery setbacks pushed it too far. Might review that one in the future.
Ever notice how nearly all the reviews for the T9 start with, "this unit is great. We had to fix this this and this glitch and do a work around for this, but it's great." Yeah, no thanks. They're a great concept but not worth the headaches of the cheap chinese quality control and spotty engineering.
I got a T9 too. But the bare bone android interface is horrible, the screen is too thin and I broke the inner last week because the cold weather and broken button. I also got a Dasaita and it was just a defective unit.
looks like the Yaesu FTM-400XD to the right. Always been a Alpine consumer always will be.
1080p would be nice
4K wouldn’t be ideal the screen is to small
That’s why you don’t see a 4K Tv that go smaller than a 40”
Does this head unit display the lane departure sensors light as you see in the mirrors? Also the backup sensors flash lights in both mirrors. Want to know if this can be configured to alert the driver via the head unit display.
Is a passenger able to sit comfortably in the car? I like these addons but I have seen in some 4runners they install these extras from the passenger space. Do you also have a video review of the Yaesu radio?
Nice breakdown of the head unit, quick question, what phone holder is that? Looks nicely tucked away and not in the vents..
off topic from your video but any idea when "medium" shirts will be back in stock? Want to support you guys!
How long is the boot up time on this radio? If you have your car on in accessory position and then decide to start your car does the radio reboot? I have a Kenwood radio and it takes for ever to boot up and same when I am using it in accessory position and switch my 4Runner to running it will reboot the radio.
I have this unit and you are able to use Google maps on the phone while plugged into the unit for Android auto. You just have to use Waze instead of Google Maps on the unit. That opens up the ability to use maps on your phone while the unit uses Waze.
Good day,
I have a 2018 4Runner SR5. Will it show tire pressure.
Thx’s
Does your center information screen and your steering wheel buttons still work ???
I'm paranoid about taking the dashboard apart. Does yours rattle when you drive now?
Did you have any issues in hooking up the kac-001 to the head unit? haven't found any decent videos about it
One thing that would worry me about the accessory switch addon, is what happens if the head unit quits working or is damaged? At that point you've lost every accessory connected to it.
Is there a video on the auxiliary tank besides the orginal install video? What's the range with trailer and no trailer?
I upgraded to the Pioneer 8400 NEX last year from the factory piece and haven't regretted it at all. The unit i have does feature wireless Carplay, but only has a 7' screen. I'm very curious how you Gaia app on Carplay experience turns out. Will be very interesting to see if it negates the need for an additional tablet to be used when hitting the trails.
Might as well buy an ipad with cellular and a suction cup and plaster it on top of the existing head unit lol.
Excellent video exactly what I was looking for. Specifically the benefits from the OBD connection.
FYI, you burn mp3s to cd. Extracting songs from a CD to mp3 is called Ripping😁
Great video... I love mine...I had it in my 2001 3rd gen 4R...now it's in my 5th gen 2019 with matching dark gray trim from crutchfield...no issues ...and I paid 699 brand new
Would have liked to hear more about the radio itself not just about Android Auto.
Thanks for the great video! From Australia.
Will it work with gloves..? Is there a way to run the audio output from your Yaesu radio through it so the radios audio will cut out and switch over if the Yaesu brakes squelch..?
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Let me say one thing. Very big thank you. well informed review. I have been researching this head unit for my Tacoma. I am glad to know the resolution wasn’t that great. I was wondering. I’m going to hold off and hopefully alpine updates. In the long run. That head unit is amazing. I currently have JBL where crutchfield site said it wouldn’t work. Hopefully that will be updated too. And again. Thank you.
Hey Kevin, thanks very informative. What are the benefits of using Android Auto?
Any update on this?
what rms does it have
I think for the money the Android units coming out of China are a much better option. These Apline, Sony and Pioneer units are just locked down too much with factory bloat ware.
We've got this on our list to test as well. 👍
T9 headunit looks way better imo
Never saw a follow up/long-term review on it.
In my Sony XAV-AX100 when I wanted to be able to search in AA while driving I had to put parking brake signal cable from headunit to the ground (the housing of the radio should be enough).
older head units work like that but these newer ones need a micro bypass, sold separately...
Hey kev that belly is sticking out lol jokes
Can you watch TH-cam or Netflix while in motion?
I have issues with mine not making any sound. It’s like the unit is stuck in mute. My music says it’s playing, but there is no sound. This happens with all input types including radio. I have to turn off my car and restart it for it to start work again. Anybody else have this issue?
Haven't had that issue yet
480P? For the much $$$? What is this, 1999?
The screen res and color levels were already a deal breaker. The price just has me laughing. Tablet and a normal single din beats this all day long.
Since I Love our 16 T4R so much especially since it’s pre TSS, this is exactly what I’ve been needing. The vehicle telemetry and CarPlay has me sold. Thanks for the review Kevin👍
The overlapping on the air vents is a deal breaker for me personally
Kevin, it’s cool and a major upgrade from the factory head unit. However, it’s important to have a backup. With so many functions now going through this unit, if something fails (firmware, electrical etc,) you may find yourself in trouble without a backup device.
What parts of functionality are you suggesting needs backup?
You know you can adjust those backup camera lines so they line up with parking lines in a parking lot? They won't cover as much of the screen when aligned.
Those lines are super-imposed on the Toyota side. If you know a way to turn those off then I'm all ears. I currently have the Alpine lines off.
Can wireless to play video on an iph?
How did you change the gauges to voltage and so on?
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Thanks for the video!
Love that you were listening to Jim Butcher.
THE best!
Same, waiting on the new book coming out soon
Is it blocking your air vents?
I covered this in the video. It only slightly affects airflow.
wow the price ....to expensive
Nice haircut Kevin.
Thanks, the wife couldn't have gotten her Cosmo training at any better time 😂
What OB2 reader do you use?
This one was included. We also have the BAFX for Torque Pro and Bluedriver for iOS.
Thanks what one was included so I can use it for the radio.. I already purchased one.