I doubt he will be moved one way or the other. He said he stopped reading reviews, never hears his own songs even after they are super duper hits, moves onto next work on hand. However, videos such as these will send positive vibrations for sure - like one appreciating his/her mom's cooking part by part, more than being emotional.
Thank you for your kind words ☺️🌸. I just took a peek at your channel. Pleasantly surprised to see you are teaching Blender. Although not my line of work now, I worked on a couple of projects as texture artist and Maya artist. I understand the painstaking efforts… have lots of respect for 3D artists. 🙏☺️
Awesome.. i have always felt Illayarajas songs are mind boggling and now when you break it down, it is getting more clearer...I know he constructs songs just in fraction of seconds but they come out of preexisting feelings deep inside..so it goes down into our soul!!
@@AnandPrem-b3p yes… many commenters feel that “spontaneous” and “planned” are two opposite things… but when you look closer, it becomes hard to tell… for example, as a musician, even I am aware that distant notes create a feeling of longing… if I “spontaneously” create a tune with distant notes, and say “I did it spontaneously” does it count as spontaneous? I mean I followed a rule that I planned in 10 seconds to create “longing” 😂 it is now like quantum physics… both wave and particle at the same time 😂
You don't have to justify that you aren't making it up.🙂 The composer creates from an abstract space. Definitely the analyst has every right to interpret the magical coincidences which is the hind sight of the creative process.
beautiful analysis mam... and that's my favourite part of the song... உடனே வந்தால் உயிர் வாழ்வேன்... வருவேன் அநநாள் வரக்கூடும் ❤❤❤ interesting fact is the song is loosely based on Nedunalvaadai (நெடுநல்வாடை) which is 7th among the collection known as Paththupaatu (பத்துப்பாட்டு)... another interesting song in this movie is Rakkamma kaiya thattu where the orchestration fluctuates from heavy to medium to almost nil...
Very nice analysis! Thanks. Carnatic singer Sikkil Gurucharan had posted a video in which he pointed out during pallavi when hero/heroine are nearby, kalyani ragam (which is mangala ragam - union?) where as in caranam when they are separated, kosalam ragam is used that has ri and ga very closely spaced (chromatic), hence denoting desonance due to separation. Raaja must have thought only for few moments and let sarasvathy work through him to give these notations in 45 mins or so. He said while he takes less than 30 mins for total notations for any song, this one took 45 mins! He has never bragged about all these, but he gets to be called arrogant one!
Note: The distance between the higher version and the lower version is ONE OCTAVE, that is, a distance of 12 keys on the keyboard. Every note in the high version is separated from its corresponding note in the low version by 12 KEYS. If you are new to music, you can count and see for yourself - it is fascinating. The one octave distance on the keyboard has been used to create a sense of physical distance (and the underlying emotions due to distance ) between people in a few songs. Examples from Ilaiyaraaja: Va va pakkam va, Aan Paavam background score.
Sister you are awesome.🙏How do you discover the magic ? How much research do you do? After watching your video i think and i shocked how much magical turns are there in this composition. Raja sir king. But you are awsome.🙏
Thank u! In any music, it is very hard to answer a “why we like it” question... I keep on looking at why we like certain tunes, etc. lifelong... in many directions... there might be psychology, math, culture, similarity with previous familiar tunes, linguistics, so many reasons... whenever I find the most likely answer I make an episode!
I love how you decoded the lyricist’s wordings and the effect of the music director’s composition ❤️❤️. Awesome . Keep making more ilayaraja songs . I have subscribed your channel
Very many thanks. Ur enlightening analysis heightens the appreciation of Isaignani's myriad staunch fans, who, unfortunately, hv no initiation in music.
Its the narration of the script tht instantaneously, spontaneously & intuitively triggers Isaignani's inspiration & imagination, to encapsulate fr posterity, the emergent emotions, in perfect sync wth the film scenario. This, thereaftr, sparks of the lyricist & eventually, a cult classic emerges.
Happy to hear! I think most of us have lot of music ability - which is why we are able to enjoy it, even if we are not musicians. If explained without too many technical words, more people can follow easily…
Wow that's a wonderful analysis.... Why so many people love this song .. Thendral vandhu theendum bothu... Decode this one... am interested to know ur opinion..
Wow mam your are brilliant...there's something called Melodic math that guys like Max martin uses in their song. But what you are breaking down here is mindblowing
The song 'Sundari Kannal' was the last recorded by Ilaiyaraja for Mani Ratnam. It is based on Raga Kalyani? Maniratnam did not like the song because he wanted something like PS1 and Ilayaraja refused to compose an alternative version. Strangely, there is a separate club of humans who totally dislike this song of Ilayaraja because of the mish-mash of too many variations and also the visuals. Nevertheless, as you pointed out, there are tiny windows where the song is palatable. What you have observed is the most fundamental idea used by composers. Usually, higher pitches are in flute and lower pitches are in sarangi etc to exaggerate the distance factor. While its undoubtedly true that Ilayaraja is one of the rare genius world has ever seen, we must know there are bigger ones like Kannadasan for their spontaneity and flow.
Thanks for detailed thoughts! I like to think this song is to Raja as Bohemian Rhapsody is to Queen! Neither is your instantly likeable song... but both are cult status strange compositions where alternating mish mash of styles happen! (As for me, “Palatable” is not my word for this song! Awe, Goosebumps, and tears are closer to my feelings for this song).
I suppose it’s how we view it… simply as a song to be performed on stage by itself, or something that presents the core of the story. Loving a man doing street justice with fights is pretty much like this song… you don’t know when he’s going to come back from his battles… your story alternates with sweetness and anxiety… It may not be great as stand alone but it’s well made for the story… The meandering suits the anxiety felt… there is no peace or resolution in your heart. Putting honey sweetness as in the case of a stand alone song wouldn’t have worked according to how Raaja sir saw the situation…
@@suvaissance thats very interesting... now it makes sense why kalyani could have been chosen for this song situation in the movie and why kalyani triggers anxiety...Thank you very much, Ma'am!
Beautiful analysis.. Though i don't have music knowledge, but having music sense I used to explain to my directors or cameraman, the way you explain.. Keep posting more decoding videos on Raja sirs music.. so that I can learn Thank you..🙏
I understand… I believe music director and editor have closely related jobs. Both feel how tiny changes (like keeping the scene or music even one second longer) can cause a significant change in the mood… both are story tellers… I edit a lot (not VFX, just story telling edits) and feel the similarities between both roles.
In fact, Yuvan has used this style in many of his songs. I like how Yuvan transcends from very high pitch to low pitch almost immediately. "Sollamal thottu chellum thendral" song from "Dheena" is another example that immediately comes to my mind. Also, "Panithuli Panithuli" song from "Kanda Naal Mudhal" movie. That stanza sounds "lustful" in low pitch voice. But, the same stanza in high pitch with same lines give a feeling of "longing". My most favorite song of Yuvan in this style is "Poi Solla" song from "April Maadhathil".
Awesome awesome 👏🏼 I always wondered which instrument IR sir used for this song time stamp 2:30 music.th-cam.com/video/hQDJbbJUzHQ/w-d-xo.html&si=ro3uJ0yFNWRJiJEO
2:30 - just synth sounds… you can hear the synth gliding here and there during that interlude… you can watch this entire episode on Raaja sir’s synth usage… th-cam.com/video/jUCgtLmBnxE/w-d-xo.html Welcome to Suvaissance! 😃
I dont know music..but this level of detailing motivates to know more about music and it is exciting
Makes my day 🥹🌸🌸👏👏👏🙏
When low, this song brings tears and pulls back to life and love
just like a baby cries in high pitch when mother leaves but when mother picked up makes playfull giggle or grawling sound ,
@@vasanthasrikantha6512 lovely one ☺️❤️
Our Maestro will be happy if he watch this video. Great work mam.
Thank you!
I doubt he will be moved one way or the other. He said he stopped reading reviews, never hears his own songs even after they are super duper hits, moves onto next work on hand. However, videos such as these will send positive vibrations for sure - like one appreciating his/her mom's cooking part by part, more than being emotional.
Mam you are a rare gem 💎
What an insight, clarity, the way of communication, planning and editing !! Ilayaraja sir should see this video !!
Thank you for your kind words ☺️🌸. I just took a peek at your channel. Pleasantly surprised to see you are teaching Blender. Although not my line of work now, I worked on a couple of projects as texture artist and Maya artist. I understand the painstaking efforts… have lots of respect for 3D artists. 🙏☺️
Janakamma and Balu garu perfectly brought out the brains of Ilayaraja!
It pulls the heart strings..it actually reminds we have heartstrings.
Composer, lyrist, choreographer and Director were in sync....thats how EPICS are made!
🎉🎉🎉🎉
Awesome.. i have always felt Illayarajas songs are mind boggling and now when you break it down, it is getting more clearer...I know he constructs songs just in fraction of seconds but they come out of preexisting feelings deep inside..so it goes down into our soul!!
@@AnandPrem-b3p yes… many commenters feel that “spontaneous” and “planned” are two opposite things… but when you look closer, it becomes hard to tell… for example, as a musician, even I am aware that distant notes create a feeling of longing… if I “spontaneously” create a tune with distant notes, and say “I did it spontaneously” does it count as spontaneous? I mean I followed a rule that I planned in 10 seconds to create “longing” 😂 it is now like quantum physics… both wave and particle at the same time 😂
You don't have to justify that you aren't making it up.🙂
The composer creates from an abstract space.
Definitely the analyst has every right to interpret the magical coincidences which is the hind sight of the creative process.
Haha... no prob... I even ask myself...
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beautiful analysis mam... and that's my favourite part of the song... உடனே வந்தால் உயிர் வாழ்வேன்... வருவேன் அநநாள் வரக்கூடும் ❤❤❤ interesting fact is the song is loosely based on Nedunalvaadai (நெடுநல்வாடை) which is 7th among the collection known as Paththupaatu (பத்துப்பாட்டு)... another interesting song in this movie is Rakkamma kaiya thattu where the orchestration fluctuates from heavy to medium to almost nil...
Yep… It keeps ringing in my head… the sudden jump between high and low…
Very nice analysis! Thanks. Carnatic singer Sikkil Gurucharan had posted a video in which he pointed out during pallavi when hero/heroine are nearby, kalyani ragam (which is mangala ragam - union?) where as in caranam when they are separated, kosalam ragam is used that has ri and ga very closely spaced (chromatic), hence denoting desonance due to separation. Raaja must have thought only for few moments and let sarasvathy work through him to give these notations in 45 mins or so. He said while he takes less than 30 mins for total notations for any song, this one took 45 mins! He has never bragged about all these, but he gets to be called arrogant one!
Note: The distance between the higher version and the lower version is ONE OCTAVE, that is, a distance of 12 keys on the keyboard. Every note in the high version is separated from its corresponding note in the low version by 12 KEYS. If you are new to music, you can count and see for yourself - it is fascinating. The one octave distance on the keyboard has been used to create a sense of physical distance (and the underlying emotions due to distance ) between people in a few songs. Examples from Ilaiyaraaja: Va va pakkam va, Aan Paavam background score.
Awesomeeee Mam
Great analysis Su Krish ! Hats off to one and only Ilaiyaraaja
Sister you are awesome.🙏How do you discover the magic ? How much research do you do? After watching your video i think and i shocked how much magical turns are there in this composition. Raja sir king. But you are awsome.🙏
Thank u! In any music, it is very hard to answer a “why we like it” question... I keep on looking at why we like certain tunes, etc. lifelong... in many directions... there might be psychology, math, culture, similarity with previous familiar tunes, linguistics, so many reasons... whenever I find the most likely answer I make an episode!
Maestro Illayaraja sir’s music is soulfully scientific. Amazing ❤
Excellent analysis,he is that is why called maestro
great observations Madam. kindly reveal more raja sirs secrets
Mind blowing thoughts, love it❤
I love how you decoded the lyricist’s wordings and the effect of the music director’s composition ❤️❤️. Awesome . Keep making more ilayaraja songs . I have subscribed your channel
Beautiful interpretation of the subconscious patterns used in this composition.
Thank u 🌸☺️
Very many thanks. Ur enlightening analysis heightens the appreciation of Isaignani's myriad staunch fans, who, unfortunately, hv no initiation in music.
Its the narration of the script tht instantaneously, spontaneously & intuitively triggers Isaignani's inspiration & imagination, to encapsulate fr posterity, the emergent emotions, in perfect sync wth the film scenario. This, thereaftr, sparks of the lyricist & eventually, a cult classic emerges.
🎉❤i love how u explain the music because this is nature things. It's realistic amazing 🤩😍😍😍😍
Happy to hear! I think most of us have lot of music ability - which is why we are able to enjoy it, even if we are not musicians. If explained without too many technical words, more people can follow easily…
Really thanks! I connected spiritually........................
wonderful breakdown!
You rationalized something deep in my heart. Thank you
Took a while to put my instinctual feelings to words… glad to hear from a sensitive soul… 🙌
Keep impressing us Madam🎉
Wow that's a wonderful analysis....
Why so many people love this song .. Thendral vandhu theendum bothu... Decode this one... am interested to know ur opinion..
Mind blowing. True.
Good caught that you have highlighted yelling note and gentle note.... super madam
Vera level
Raaja Raaja thaan!!
Wow mam your are brilliant...there's something called Melodic math that guys like Max martin uses in their song. But what you are breaking down here is mindblowing
Thanks much… ☺️🌸
The song 'Sundari Kannal' was the last recorded by Ilaiyaraja for Mani Ratnam. It is based on Raga Kalyani? Maniratnam did not like the song because he wanted something like PS1 and Ilayaraja refused to compose an alternative version. Strangely, there is a separate club of humans who totally dislike this song of Ilayaraja because of the mish-mash of too many variations and also the visuals. Nevertheless, as you pointed out, there are tiny windows where the song is palatable. What you have observed is the most fundamental idea used by composers. Usually, higher pitches are in flute and lower pitches are in sarangi etc to exaggerate the distance factor. While its undoubtedly true that Ilayaraja is one of the rare genius world has ever seen, we must know there are bigger ones like Kannadasan for their spontaneity and flow.
Thanks for detailed thoughts! I like to think this song is to Raja as Bohemian Rhapsody is to Queen! Neither is your instantly likeable song... but both are cult status strange compositions where alternating mish mash of styles happen! (As for me, “Palatable” is not my word for this song! Awe, Goosebumps, and tears are closer to my feelings for this song).
@@SSMKT3624 problem is not with ilataraja. Kalyani ragam is restlessly and aimlessly meandering with long phrases...
I suppose it’s how we view it… simply as a song to be performed on stage by itself, or something that presents the core of the story. Loving a man doing street justice with fights is pretty much like this song… you don’t know when he’s going to come back from his battles… your story alternates with sweetness and anxiety… It may not be great as stand alone but it’s well made for the story… The meandering suits the anxiety felt… there is no peace or resolution in your heart. Putting honey sweetness as in the case of a stand alone song wouldn’t have worked according to how Raaja sir saw the situation…
@@SSMKT3624 wikipedia has entire list
@@suvaissance thats very interesting... now it makes sense why kalyani could have been chosen for this song situation in the movie and why kalyani triggers anxiety...Thank you very much, Ma'am!
Great analysis!!
You're a genius Su
Ah you’re becoming a regular viewer! glad you’re enjoying…
Great work mam
Beautiful analysis.. Though i don't have music knowledge, but having music sense I used to explain to my directors or cameraman, the way you explain..
Keep posting more decoding videos on Raja sirs music.. so that I can learn
Thank you..🙏
I understand… I believe music director and editor have closely related jobs. Both feel how tiny changes (like keeping the scene or music even one second longer) can cause a significant change in the mood… both are story tellers… I edit a lot (not VFX, just story telling edits) and feel the similarities between both roles.
Great video.
Yuvan did a similar thing in "CBI Enge". "Idhanaale anaivarukkum naan sollum Sethi ondru" alone is in high pitch.
Great catch!
In fact, Yuvan has used this style in many of his songs. I like how Yuvan transcends from very high pitch to low pitch almost immediately.
"Sollamal thottu chellum thendral" song from "Dheena" is another example that immediately comes to my mind.
Also, "Panithuli Panithuli" song from "Kanda Naal Mudhal" movie. That stanza sounds "lustful" in low pitch voice. But, the same stanza in high pitch with same lines give a feeling of "longing".
My most favorite song of Yuvan in this style is "Poi Solla" song from "April Maadhathil".
Beautiful ❤
Its awesome mam❤❤
Hi Shibu! Thanks!
raja made a tune soo good, the human brain just can't comprehend it
😃
great
Wonderful madam❤
Thank you! Cheers! 🎶
Enjoyable.
Mam you are such an amazing Goddess of music love. I really got impressed
Oh wow… Thank you! Happy to hear you’re liking the content… 🙏🌸
❤❤❤
2:26 that’s Doppler shift
Great work madam 🤗
☺
I wait for this kind of unique analysis.
May my subconscious mind attract to urs madam.
Thank you for your research
Thank God for he made you meet me
🥹🌸🌸🌸🙏🙏🙏
appreciate
Please next song masi madam/enno rathrusushayi gano
Can you explain vettri vizhaa movie songs
For me Music = Raja.
Who can name other Tamil film songs where the singer sings the same tune in higher pitch (octave) and lower pitch (octave).
Swarnalatha
i could remember one such song from the MGR film Aayirathil Oruvan... my personal favourite... Odum megangale oru sol keleero
Alaipayuthey evano oruvan vasikuran
❤❤❤❤❤❤chilzzzz
madam please make more videos 🙏🙏🙏🙏💌💌💌💌
Please review songs from the movie devar magan ...
@@EQFocus wonderful!
Awesome awesome 👏🏼 I always wondered which instrument IR sir used for this song time stamp 2:30 music.th-cam.com/video/hQDJbbJUzHQ/w-d-xo.html&si=ro3uJ0yFNWRJiJEO
Always been looking for a channel like this 👏🏼👏🏼🙏
2:30 - just synth sounds… you can hear the synth gliding here and there during that interlude… you can watch this entire episode on Raaja sir’s synth usage… th-cam.com/video/jUCgtLmBnxE/w-d-xo.html Welcome to Suvaissance! 😃
Ahh I see. Thanks you so much 😊. I have been listening around so many strings instruments to figure that out 😊
Wishful thinking
Hello Madam....please use Sir...when you call legends name...please. 🙏
She seems to be a legend in her own way. I have never found such insightful analysis anywhere.
I like his music very much... But as a human being he is utter waste
❤❤❤❤❤🙏🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬