I could see it being an inside job, but my first thought went to human trafficking. Especially with the white van shown around the 2 min mark. Just old plates to pass on the streets so people don’t look twice.
Ironically in NY if you don’t turn in your plate you litteraly can’t cancel your insurance policy. If your insurance policy ends or you stop paying and it’s canceled without turning your plate in you are given a ticket without warning for lapsed insurance.
Here in North carolina, we have a personal property tax on automobiles. If you're not moving the plates to a new car, you have to turn in the plates and get a receipt to get your car removed from the property taxes
It's possible somebody got a database of plates taken out of circulation. In the UK people found plates for similar cars and made counterfeits causing people to get fines from places they've never been to.
We have cameras in our state for toll roads. They Forever send tickets to people similar. Like, a passenger car getting a ticket for a Big Rig not paying a toll. Their cameras used to be very crappy. I flat out refuse to go on the toll roads. I got a ticket for a 35cent toll but the fine came to $20. It wasn't my car or my license plate but had my name. We had to drive 60 miles to go to court to fix it.
@@B_Bodziak - The state police can enter the tags as stolen into their system now knowing that it was not destroyed. This way, any police officer running the tag will come up stolen.
Someone stole the classic plates off my van recently, I went to the tax office to get new ones and they said "sure we'll have yours re-printed and you'll get them in 2 weeks". Why the hell would I want the exact same plate if someone stole them, now there's 2 cars out there driving around with the same plate that makes no sense. I actually had to argue as to WHY I wanted new plates not re-printed ones
@@cgschow1971 You would think that but the receipt they gave me (which I had to pay $6 to have the plates re-printed) clearly showed the exact same plate number that was previously stolen, in Texas our windshield stickers have the plate number printed on it and they didn't give me a new sticker because they said the sticker would still match the re-printed plates and be valid until 4/2025. So yes they tried to reissue me the exact same plate # that was previously stolen
Classic plates are probably handled differently, much like personalized plates. You want a regular plate, you’ll get something random that they already have at the office.
@@UmmYeahOklooks like Texas does things different down there. If they weren't reprinting his plates, he would have been out the door with plates in his hands
@@russg9371yeah. The person at the DMV screwed up. When a plate is lost, if it’s a specialty plate, it has to be reprinted. But that’s not what they wanted. It was stolen, so the owner wanted a new, as in, completely different set. That requires filling out different forms. Essentially voiding the old plates, and then buying/registering new plates. More of a hassle, but it was probably more to do with miscommunication rather than laziness.
@@michaeldecker2725Louis Rossman has a TH-cam series where he fought some new York tickets - and some major incompetence. I'm guessing you haven't watched it?
@@dp4013 Plates are tied indefinitely to vehicles in every state. They don’t reissue numbers for this exact reason. So what state mailed tickets based off an old database? Not to mention the vehicle was completely wrong?
The first thing that springs to mind is that here, when we turn in our plates, the registration data is deleted, so this could not happen. Why is NY able to get the outdated registration from Iowa computers? Iowa needs to clean up their process.
The major question here is why didn't Iowa remove those plates from their system when they were turned in which would have unattached them from the previous owners?
Yes, how are old plates attached to someone that got new plates even if you didn't return them if they weren't renewed wouldn't they fall out of the system?
@@kakerosa5466Sounds like Iowa DMV dropped the ball by not making sure those plates were destroyed. People will find use for them otherwise. Legal or illegal.
NY is notorious for this kind of behavior. A friend had a repair shop in NYC then moved it to Texas. He dissolved the old company and started a new one so they would not get confused. NYC sent him a fine for not having NYC workers comp insurance on employees in Texas. This is not all they have done and was the reason he moved.
They don't care about anything like this. Their only concern is advancing their own career and pocketing as much money as possible while doing so. I had the same thing happen with stolen plates and I was nearly arrested over it. I got lucky that the guy was caught with a bunch of license plates in another state. The state trooper that arrested him personally handled it for me because the local PD were going to arrest me for unpaid tickets if I didn't turn myself in within 24 hours. Without his help I would have been screwed because the local PD just didn't care that the plates didn't match the vehicle.
Likely it was a box or two of plates that were poorly stored and some enterprising BLM member found them recently. OFC they immediately thought of NY and it's millions of citation (only) cameras...
I had a similar situation with New York. I received multiple violations, from different agencies, for a white Ford van. These were temporary, Florida paper tags, that were issued to our dealership. They showed up 5 years after we closed down. It took many responses and phone calls to stop the threats from NYC.
My question is why those plates still tie to the original owner. If plates are turned in to the government, there should no longer be an owner or vehicle associated with them. If someone asks the Iowa DMV for the owner of a vehicle with that plate, it should come back unknown/unregistered, not with the names and addresses of people who turned them in. In addition to the issue of someone looting turned in plates for sale on the black market, the Iowa DMV could help its residents by updating its records.
That Govt for you. I found out last year I owned a 300K Rolls Royce that kept getting toll fines from Florida. Come to find out the real owner was in the DMV office when they registered the vehicle. Their DL # was 1 digit off from mine, so tell me with all that paperwork in front of a DMV worker why didnt the DMV notice the name was different when the made the typo...I never did get that answer from the DMV fraud division.
@@bestman7776 The information doesn't need to be removed, and NYC would be able to see it's not currently registered. NYC should not be ticketing off a photo when the plate hasn't been registered in a decade and is clearly attached to a different make/model vehicle. They just don't care. No one is going to penalize them for writing bad tickets to compel people to court to do the investigative work for them. So nope, it likely does come back unregistered.
Exactly. They should be required to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you were driving the car. How are they going to do that without any images of you in the car?
As absurd the charges may be, you know there will be people who will simply pay the fines just to move on with their day. I hope more victims of NY's incompetence will see this and get their money back.
This goes up the ladder at both Iowa's DMV & DOC. 12 years of having to purchase new aluminum for license plates. Who accounted for all that lost revenue from recycling fees?
I work for the courts and we’ve gotten so many folks that end up spending the 72 hrs in the pen for having weird driving charges that have warrants, and I’ve suspected for a long time, that this was happening. That the DMV, has been messing w plates for a while now. I almost got arrested when my plate was stolen and switched for someone else’s. Now, I look at my plate everyday. It’s the DMV they gotta look into.
A simular incident happened to a friend of mine, someone painted license plate numbers that matched his plates he received a fine from a different state that he never went to as well. Took him weeks to straighten it out.
I live in Texas and someone stole mine off an old motorhome that had not been driven since 1992. I got a bill a couple of years ago because someone put them on a Tahoe and went down the Toll Road nearby. I haven't ever been on that toll road and never owned a Tahoe. They corrected the bill.
that's why the rest of the country views texas as a shithole they wouldn't be caught dead in - maybe stop bashing on the mexicans and deal with the real problems assholes
NYC take notes. NYC is acting as co-conspirators in this license plate fraud by simply doing what they always do: not give a damn about the little guy.
If Iowa was not so insistent on receiving income from traffic cameras themselves, the simply solution would be to tell New York that they cannot collect their fines in Iowa. Minnesota did that with Illinois and their Tollway years ago and suddenly, the Tollway cleaned up their act.
Traffic camera’s? Where?! You talking about the sensors? Because I’ve yet to find a speed trap in iowa. Well, most of iowa. Some small towns are douches but that’s usually closer to Minnesota.
Minnesota is trying to change it. I haven't followed it up in awhile but there was a bill going through the state Senate authorizing the use of traffic cams for speed enforcement
@@russg9371 I have seen that but the question is, will such a law pass court scrutiny. I think the MN Supreme Court ruled years ago that traffic cameras were unconstitutional based on the state constitution (City of Minneapolis was using red light cameras) so my guess is that it would require the voters to change the rules to allow it (and I doubt the voters will do that).
traffic cams....I'm canadian, the way I see it is... They got a guy selling em for money, they were turned in right, means trash compacter... so they must of had plans to scam peopl with them later on when things blew over about how the plates went missing. I'm not surprised, you have many corrupt ppl leeding you. greed will leed them to hell... hope they know all the money in the world wont save them :-)
@@Tortilla.Reform Keep closing your eyes to reality! When it finally slaps, it’s gonna hit so hard you’ll have a schizophrenic episode with that level of cognitive dissonance! Fact-no one cares more about you than you, and no one is actually more interested in you than criminals and hackers for very obvious reasons🤑
Yeah all the advanced computers, space shuttles, medical and educational properties sure makes America a 3rd world, hell they’ve even got running water and electricity, now that’s poor
I don't understand how NYC can bill someone for plates from car that is no longer registered to them and obviously expired. Pure insanity. They better not send those fines to bill collectors.
In iowa you need to turn in the old plates in order to receive a refund for the portion of the year that went unused. I don't believe it's optional unless you want to write off that money.
Well you turn them in because each year if you go to renew your sticker. They will automatically charge you because they think that car is still in your possession. I had that happen on this Honda pilot I had gotten rid of two year ago but forgot to take them in. They thought I still owned that so when I paid online for the plates to my other cars they charged me for that Honda I hadn't owned for a few years when I took the plate in then that car was taken off the registry
NYS DMV no longer REQUIRES old license plates to be turned in to them, but left up to the motor vehicle owner to destroy them. Gee, what could possibly go wrong?
The exact same thing happened to me in Union County Georgia. I turned my tag in and six months later it showed up in New York. I believe my tag as well as around 125 others were sold after being turned in to our county tax office. These folks can upload a copy of their receipt for turning the tag in if they can still get one. My receipt is what cleared me. It was easy to do on the New York website. NYPD eventually seized my tag and destroyed it.
@rbryson07 exactly, and "eventually ceased the plate" but didn't mention that since it's New York they likely let the person with the plate on the car walk away without even giving them a ticket.
@@mrbyamile6973 Wut? One minute New York is chasing people half way across the country and the next minute they are letting them go. NYC has lower violent crime rates that a lot of places
And a lot of the things at flea markets are stolen. I had my hose and sprinkler stolen off my front yard. When I talked to the police as to why anyone would bother, they told me, "Where do you think all those hoses and sprinklers at the flea markets come from."
Im curious. How much do plates usually go for at those markets? Mine was stolen/or fell off the back of my car and Ive been paranoid about it ever since. Im wondering if thieves actually have enough financial incentive to seal them off of cars. BTW for anybody wondering, if you aren't 100% sure that your plate has been stolen off a current car that you use, DONT report it to the police until you are sure. You will not be able to drive that vehicle with the remaining plate on.
This is what happens when you have tolls like they have in NYC. Can’t really be surprised with how creative they are getting. I feel for these people that it happened to
ummmm, $300 in fines issued, which means that plate number is on the 'hot sheet' in new york and given to ALL RMP cruisers, yet they dont and havent pulled the van over despite catching it on traffic cam TWICE on the SAME street at different times on different days...something smells like something that came outta the east river here...outdated plates being sold to illegal immigrants, or human trafficking? someone in new york is covering something up here or being told not to stop the vehicles in question...40 plus plates are in question: my spidey sense tells me this is a bigger story than media is gonna be allowed to cover... why do i say that...the state of New York sent an 'e-mail' rather than an OFFICIAL LETTER to this family telling them the fine is being removed...arent we all told EVERYDAY to look at 'suspicious' e-mails as 'spam' or "phishing'? what state, what DOT office ANYWHERE sends an 'e-mail' as an 'official response saying they are quashing a lawful fine?
Your hatred is overthinking this. License plates being used by people who are tired of paying fines and fees from automated ticket cameras. Plus you realize that traffic cams aren't issuing tickets in real time right? That camera footage is analyzed later and tickets sent, so yeah it's not shocking that the vehicle was not pulled over despite being flagged twice on the same street in one day.
You're asking how they all are counterfeit if they are all almost identical? Hahaha. That's literally a condition for being counterfeit. Are you a bot?
@@KB-kp2oz The wrong word was used. The plates were properly issued in Iowa, but were legally invalid for further use once turned in. Probably they were aluminum to be recycled for new plates, that never made it to the furnace. The real question is where the New York users were getting renewal stickers for them. Now those could be counterfeits.
Are you serious someone in Iowa sold them to someone you don't even necessarily know the person was in New York New York was the final destination but you need to look at yourself first before you start casting stones
Yes, Iowa didn't bother to decommission/reassign numbers, an Iowa county treasurer saying, "I just assumed" while holding a bunch of case documents, someone from Iowa moved the plates - and it's all NY's fault. How do you know that Iowa hasn't responded to a NY request? Did the paperwork the couple get tell them how to rectify the problem that included Iowa doing some work as well? You don't know. You just listen to a little bit of information and blame the "liberal state."
@@user-wf8ol5hv6k doesn't matter who's asking for the fines to be paid someone in Iowa is DOC sold the plates after they took them from the treasurer You don't know who they sold them to or where and where they ended up is like any other stolen property could end up anywhere You can't blame the final destination Iowa needs to investigate its department of corrections see who took custody of the plates and they're the ones who sold them They need to start questioning them.
It's happened to me before! I turned it in to motor vehicles and SOMEHOW the plates got out and I was getting parking tickets in NYC! So I decided the next time I have to surrender plates, I'd breakem' in half. Motor Vehicles tells me "oh no, you can't do that". Well how else can I be assured that they won't get out again?
People hang on to old plates all the time. The question is; why isn't the plate just completely removed from the system. Why is it coming back on a database? Obviously the numbers get regenerated at some point, but there should be a mandatory period before numbers are reissued.
My first reaction, "People turn in their plates? I didn't even know that was a thing and I've had cars in multiple states." Is that an Iowa law or something?
It's funny how the accused in legally sanctioned extortion is always guilty until proven innocent. If the city was responsibly for the accused legal costs and loss of wages to sort it out, I bet they would spend a few more minutes to make sure they got it right.
In Chicago, the private company who paid a flat rate to the city (not a typo) to install and monitor speed cameras (the company monitors the cameras and sends out tickets and the COMPANY keeps whatever fines they collect) got caught editing videos to make it look like people were speeding and running stop signs, etc. Gee, what could go wrong? Scammed me out of $200.
as a license plate collector, this is really easy to do. You can get old plates for cheap and put them on your vehicle quite easily. Could be an inside job as well, but it's not difficult to get your hands on old plates. Just saying.
Just one more reason red light cameras and speed cameras should not exist. When you get a ticket from a city you have never been to. If they were to pull the vehicle over, the issue would be resolved rather quickly with the person that was driving getting their vehicle impounded.
The place that writes these tickets don’t care. They are contracted by the city and they write the tickets and the department has a desk cop sign them. They are normally signed by the same officer so thousands a day they don’t care about anything except money. You have to take it to court and show it’s not yours. The judge will be the one to toss it.
I had some awesome friends who just liked to steal license plates from vehicles parked overnight by drunks at the night club next door to their apartment complex, and hang them on the wall. When the roommates went their separate ways, they had a license plate draft with the top picks being BOO 4AM and 419 BGT (Better Get Tokin').
The Werefrog also kept the plates the last time they were changed, and live in Pottawattamie county. They said new plates needed this year. The Werefrog renewed by mail, and they mailed new plates. The old plates are sitting in the garage.
You have to provide proof of registration. They can enter these plates in their system and and pull them over. My guess is that gangs or human traffickers got a hold of these. As an Iowan, we do have a problem of unmarked cars, but I think that issue lies at the state level. The cost to register your vehicle here is not a flat fee, it's a % of the MSG price of your vehicle. So even if the car a pile of junk and it's MSG is $25,000. You're charge $200-$250.
When I went to trade school in Ohio, the plates stayed with the the person they were registered to. Not the car. So if you bought another car, the plates and registration would be updated for the new car, and you put the old plates on your new car. I actually live in Alaska. Up here, you can get new plates every two years, and there's no 'turn in old plates' policy. So you can do what ever you want with the old plates. Also in Alaska, if your vehicle is 10+ yrs old, it costs $215 bucks for a lifetime registration. No more DMV visits unless you really do need new plates. But you can also get replacements mailed to you.
You can but if you go online to pay for the yearly sticker they will automatically charge you another year on that car even if you had sold it years ago. The DMV thinks that car still belongs to you.
Since the county issues the plates, the county is the one that decides whether they want them back after expiration. Most counties in Iowa don't have this requirement, my Polk County plates are sitting in my bedroom after I moved to South Dakota
Don't you think a news team would actually report on what the scheme was if they knew the "real story"? News channels live for such things. I didn't need the news team to tell me "we think something illegal happened in Iowa". That's pretty obvious from the story. In the video it was mentioned the plates get turned over to the department of corrections for recycling as standard procedure. How do you know your "real story" is accurate? It could very well be someone at the department of corrections instead of the dmv who is the culprit in Iowa here.
I work for a company that ships products out by independent trucking companies. On one occasion, a shipper still had hundreds if not thousands of license plates from a previous job still remaining inside their trailer. Innocent error at the time because, I'm sure, no one would suspect they could be used in commission of a crime
I live in Brooklyn, not far from where that picture was snapped. I've seen this exact van on the street in that area of Brooklyn, off of Linden Boulevard. It's the only Iowa plated vehicle. I recognize that county name and the first numbers.
Because speeding fines bring in money whereas capturing, prosecuting and incarcerating criminals costs them money. Regardless of the fact that that is precisely why they are given ginormous sums of money they still see it as an economic proposition.
people are getting fed up with these organizations not doing their own due diligence. these plates should have been destroyed immediately. good job Iowa for failing to do your one job.
This stinks of an inside job. Someone had clear instructions to destroy these plates but instead saw an opportunity for an illegal side hustle.
I could see it being an inside job, but my first thought went to human trafficking. Especially with the white van shown around the 2 min mark.
Just old plates to pass on the streets so people don’t look twice.
Well it could also be counterfeit plates, not necessarily the original returned plates.
I don't have a problem with civil rebellion.
@@Steve-fx2fb Try it in Russia...
@@davidg3944 Not talking about Russia, DUH
This is why you hang your plates in your garage as a trophy
Ironically in NY if you don’t turn in your plate you litteraly can’t cancel your insurance policy. If your insurance policy ends or you stop paying and it’s canceled without turning your plate in you are given a ticket without warning for lapsed insurance.
@@mobilegameclips5628 yeah I could see that being a problem, im in washington so I honestly didn't even know that was a thing
Here in North carolina, we have a personal property tax on automobiles. If you're not moving the plates to a new car, you have to turn in the plates and get a receipt to get your car removed from the property taxes
@@mobilegameclips5628 add that to the million.5 reasons why I have no desire to live in New York. Or even visit for that matter.
That’s what I did!
A 14 year old could figure this out in a week.
14 Year olds are not allowed to work for the government unfortunately.
What government cause you a lie😂😂😂@@MindBodySoulOk
White boy rick was a kid working for the government 😂
If it's a week they are from Iowa.
less than a week, when I was 14 I found a guy living in Canada and ordered 20 pizzas to his house.
*Shouldn't you be going after The State of Iowa for NOT DESTROYING those plates?!* Sounds like someone DIDN'T do their job.
They should be going after the state of Iowa for hiring employees who sold the plates to another NY crook, instead of destroying them.
Your corporate overlords have demanded this not be looked into 🤷♂️ sorry guys
It's possible somebody got a database of plates taken out of circulation.
In the UK people found plates for similar cars and made counterfeits causing people to get fines from places they've never been to.
The Department of Corrections picked up the old plates?? Jeez! This should be a no-brainer!!
No sh*t. Everyone is talking about NYC, but no one faults Iowa. You know someone from Iowa sold the plates to a NY partner. Not brain surgery.
corrupt to the core
after seeing what New York did to Louis Rossman, New york just wants more money and they are even trying to steal money from other states.
You do realize that's who makes plates right the jails make license plates lol
The world has no brains now.
If the plate doesn't match the vehicle make/model, that should be a red flag.
NY is a cess pool of corruption and the police are not allowed to arrest anyone or fight crime
Thanks, Captain Obvious!
Are you a millennial or something?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We have cameras in our state for toll roads. They Forever send tickets to people similar. Like, a passenger car getting a ticket for a Big Rig not paying a toll. Their cameras used to be very crappy. I flat out refuse to go on the toll roads. I got a ticket for a 35cent toll but the fine came to $20. It wasn't my car or my license plate but had my name. We had to drive 60 miles to go to court to fix it.
Ya' think?
The state of Iowa should report those old tags as stolen.
They are in on the deal!
Bet they don't know which ones are out there. Another issue is that people could have bought a new plate with the old characters.
If they were supposed to be destroyed and are marked as destroyed, there is no mechanism to show them as atolen
@@B_Bodziak - The state police can enter the tags as stolen into their system now knowing that it was not destroyed. This way, any police officer running the tag will come up stolen.
they're are too busy being gay bashing, bible thumping morons
"It shouldn't take the world's greatest detective to figure out those plates are on the wrong vehicle"
For some reason, this made me laugh so hard.
Someone stole the classic plates off my van recently, I went to the tax office to get new ones and they said "sure we'll have yours re-printed and you'll get them in 2 weeks". Why the hell would I want the exact same plate if someone stole them, now there's 2 cars out there driving around with the same plate that makes no sense. I actually had to argue as to WHY I wanted new plates not re-printed ones
They weren't going to give you the same plate number. You simply misunderstood the term "reprinted".
@@cgschow1971 You would think that but the receipt they gave me (which I had to pay $6 to have the plates re-printed) clearly showed the exact same plate number that was previously stolen, in Texas our windshield stickers have the plate number printed on it and they didn't give me a new sticker because they said the sticker would still match the re-printed plates and be valid until 4/2025. So yes they tried to reissue me the exact same plate # that was previously stolen
Classic plates are probably handled differently, much like personalized plates. You want a regular plate, you’ll get something random that they already have at the office.
@@UmmYeahOklooks like Texas does things different down there.
If they weren't reprinting his plates, he would have been out the door with plates in his hands
@@russg9371yeah. The person at the DMV screwed up. When a plate is lost, if it’s a specialty plate, it has to be reprinted. But that’s not what they wanted. It was stolen, so the owner wanted a new, as in, completely different set. That requires filling out different forms. Essentially voiding the old plates, and then buying/registering new plates. More of a hassle, but it was probably more to do with miscommunication rather than laziness.
Anyone ever having to deal with the State of New York finance department knows how incompetent they are. Ask Louis Rossmann
They’re are not incompetent, they get their money and they’re very good at it.
@@michaeldecker2725Louis Rossman has a TH-cam series where he fought some new York tickets - and some major incompetence. I'm guessing you haven't watched it?
Seems like the incompetence is in Iowa, not New York. 😂
@@dp4013 Plates are tied indefinitely to vehicles in every state. They don’t reissue numbers for this exact reason.
So what state mailed tickets based off an old database? Not to mention the vehicle was completely wrong?
Not incompetent: evil.
These traffic cameras have really becoming a joke they totally strip us of due process
The first thing that springs to mind is that here, when we turn in our plates, the registration data is deleted, so this could not happen. Why is NY able to get the outdated registration from Iowa computers? Iowa needs to clean up their process.
Calm down, It's a national database.
@@jeffb321 good point, but a deletion is a deletion.
The major question here is why didn't Iowa remove those plates from their system when they were turned in which would have unattached them from the previous owners?
Exactly
Yep, something corrupt is going on in Iowa
@@MessyPointedBlobCorrupt? Nah. Just incompetent.
Yes, how are old plates attached to someone that got new plates even if you didn't return them if they weren't renewed wouldn't they fall out of the system?
@@jazziez6467WHAT are you trying to ask here?? 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It either someone at the DMV or the prison recycling program selling those plates.
Amen!
@@kakerosa5466Sounds like Iowa DMV dropped the ball by not making sure those plates were destroyed. People will find use for them otherwise. Legal or illegal.
Exactly-see my comment
LOL you guys aren’t car guys.
License plates can be found at u pull it junkyards in Omaha.
Anyone can remove it and take it.
@@blazeroranger Perhaps, but there's NO doubt that bad guys sell plates-and every other stolen car "part."
NY is notorious for this kind of behavior. A friend had a repair shop in NYC then moved it to Texas. He dissolved the old company and started a new one so they would not get confused. NYC sent him a fine for not having NYC workers comp insurance on employees in Texas. This is not all they have done and was the reason he moved.
Rossman is ur friend?
You personally know Louis Rossman?
Agreed, this is was Rossmann described. Replace that jtag.
Someone inside Iowa DMV is definitely culpable.
Where is the Iowa Attorney General? He should be going to NY to solve the issue with the NY City court system.
he cannot, he owe the gov money if he is caught outside of his palace.
Why would he have to go there hahaha, it’s 2024, phones and email and exists
@@Tortilla.ReformPlus they don't want to do much in the way of actual work.
They don't care about anything like this. Their only concern is advancing their own career and pocketing as much money as possible while doing so. I had the same thing happen with stolen plates and I was nearly arrested over it. I got lucky that the guy was caught with a bunch of license plates in another state. The state trooper that arrested him personally handled it for me because the local PD were going to arrest me for unpaid tickets if I didn't turn myself in within 24 hours. Without his help I would have been screwed because the local PD just didn't care that the plates didn't match the vehicle.
his Epstein Barr virus won't stand for it. on cammera that is. with 8yr olds
They best check their employees, someone is selling them.
Yep.
They just make fake ones.
Likely it was a box or two of plates that were poorly stored and some enterprising BLM member found them recently. OFC they immediately thought of NY and it's millions of citation (only) cameras...
I think you "best check" your grammar... And all of the English teachers in the school system you went to need to be fired....
@@BeccaHetrick what are yall talking about
I had a similar situation with New York. I received multiple violations, from different agencies, for a white Ford van. These were temporary, Florida paper tags, that were issued to our dealership. They showed up 5 years after we closed down.
It took many responses and phone calls to stop the threats from NYC.
Once you turn in your plates
The responsibility is no longer yours
My question is why those plates still tie to the original owner. If plates are turned in to the government, there should no longer be an owner or vehicle associated with them. If someone asks the Iowa DMV for the owner of a vehicle with that plate, it should come back unknown/unregistered, not with the names and addresses of people who turned them in. In addition to the issue of someone looting turned in plates for sale on the black market, the Iowa DMV could help its residents by updating its records.
It probably does and New York probably doesn't care.
@@JH-wd6dpnope. If that was the case, NYC wouldn’t be able to trace to original owner if Iowa properly removed from the system
That Govt for you. I found out last year I owned a 300K Rolls Royce that kept getting toll fines from Florida. Come to find out the real owner was in the DMV office when they registered the vehicle. Their DL # was 1 digit off from mine, so tell me with all that paperwork in front of a DMV worker why didnt the DMV notice the name was different when the made the typo...I never did get that answer from the DMV fraud division.
@@bestman7776 They use a third party database, not a direct query of Iowa's current database. These people should sue NY and the third party.
@@bestman7776 The information doesn't need to be removed, and NYC would be able to see it's not currently registered. NYC should not be ticketing off a photo when the plate hasn't been registered in a decade and is clearly attached to a different make/model vehicle.
They just don't care. No one is going to penalize them for writing bad tickets to compel people to court to do the investigative work for them.
So nope, it likely does come back unregistered.
And suddenly, a worker at the recycling center had a money-making scheme come to mind.
Iowa should sue NY state for harassing its citizens.
This is an inherent problem with traffic cameras. Just a photo or video that does not show the drivers face should not be prosecutable evidence.
Exactly. They should be required to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you were driving the car. How are they going to do that without any images of you in the car?
Lesson here, never turn in old plates.
In Iowa
$430 fine in Louisiana if you don't. And we paid for them at the DMV
Who at the Iowa DMV is reselling plates as a side job?
Probably someone at the Dept. of Corrections.
Guess, who usually gets busted in New York with fake plates on their cars?
@@zoomanx9661 Americans
@@BenCoombs ok 👍
Pookie the Plate Pirate! ARRRR!
As absurd the charges may be, you know there will be people who will simply pay the fines just to move on with their day. I hope more victims of NY's incompetence will see this and get their money back.
This is why traffic cams should not give tickets. Zero evidence the vehicle matches plate.
This goes up the ladder at both Iowa's DMV & DOC.
12 years of having to purchase new aluminum for license plates. Who accounted for all that lost revenue from recycling fees?
I work for the courts and we’ve gotten so many folks that end up spending the 72 hrs in the pen for having weird driving charges that have warrants, and I’ve suspected for a long time, that this was happening. That the DMV, has been messing w plates for a while now. I almost got arrested when my plate was stolen and switched for someone else’s. Now, I look at my plate everyday. It’s the DMV they gotta look into.
A simular incident happened to a friend of mine, someone painted license plate numbers that matched his plates he received a fine from a different state that he never went to as well. Took him weeks to straighten it out.
I live in Texas and someone stole mine off an old motorhome that had not been driven since 1992. I got a bill a couple of years ago because someone put them on a Tahoe and went down the Toll Road nearby. I haven't ever been on that toll road and never owned a Tahoe. They corrected the bill.
I have never owned a motorhome not driven since 1992. Now we know you are a hillbilly.
that's why the rest of the country views texas as a shithole they wouldn't be caught dead in - maybe stop bashing on the mexicans and deal with the real problems assholes
NYC take notes. NYC is acting as co-conspirators in this license plate fraud by simply doing what they always do: not give a damn about the little guy.
Welcome to America. Easy for the criminals. Six months of red tape and hard work for the law abiding citizens.
If Iowa was not so insistent on receiving income from traffic cameras themselves, the simply solution would be to tell New York that they cannot collect their fines in Iowa. Minnesota did that with Illinois and their Tollway years ago and suddenly, the Tollway cleaned up their act.
Traffic camera’s? Where?! You talking about the sensors? Because I’ve yet to find a speed trap in iowa.
Well, most of iowa. Some small towns are douches but that’s usually closer to Minnesota.
@@User_yhvz Sioux City (which is in a forever fight with South Dakota to get their driver's addresses) and Cedar Rapids to name 2 places.
Minnesota is trying to change it. I haven't followed it up in awhile but there was a bill going through the state Senate authorizing the use of traffic cams for speed enforcement
@@russg9371 I have seen that but the question is, will such a law pass court scrutiny. I think the MN Supreme Court ruled years ago that traffic cameras were unconstitutional based on the state constitution (City of Minneapolis was using red light cameras) so my guess is that it would require the voters to change the rules to allow it (and I doubt the voters will do that).
traffic cams....I'm canadian, the way I see it is... They got a guy selling em for money, they were turned in right, means trash compacter... so they must of had plans to scam peopl with them later on when things blew over about how the plates went missing. I'm not surprised, you have many corrupt ppl leeding you.
greed will leed them to hell... hope they know all the money in the world wont save them :-)
You can 3d print a lot. Vin tags, plates, etc.
Law enforcement and New York are not words that belong together!
Sounds like a great class action lawsuit.
We don't know WHO is in America..... 3rd world country it is becoming...
🙄 keep falling for divisive fear mongering
@@Tortilla.Reform Keep closing your eyes to reality! When it finally slaps, it’s gonna hit so hard you’ll have a schizophrenic episode with that level of cognitive dissonance!
Fact-no one cares more about you than you, and no one is actually more interested in you than criminals and hackers for very obvious reasons🤑
Yeah all the advanced computers, space shuttles, medical and educational properties sure makes America a 3rd world, hell they’ve even got running water and electricity, now that’s poor
@Tortilla.Reform your a scumbag
It's devolving into one very rapidly. Empires fall
Iowa Department of Motor Vehicle should be responsible for the destruction of those plates at the get go.
I don't understand how NYC can bill someone for plates from car that is no longer registered to them and obviously expired. Pure insanity. They better not send those fines to bill collectors.
I keep my old plates
I destroy mine
I got plates with 1970s registration stickers on them 😂
In iowa you need to turn in the old plates in order to receive a refund for the portion of the year that went unused. I don't believe it's optional unless you want to write off that money.
Well you turn them in because each year if you go to renew your sticker. They will automatically charge you because they think that car is still in your possession. I had that happen on this Honda pilot I had gotten rid of two year ago but forgot to take them in. They thought I still owned that so when I paid online for the plates to my other cars they charged me for that Honda I hadn't owned for a few years when I took the plate in then that car was taken off the registry
In Mass your insurance stops ONLY when you turn in the plate.
Somebody working in the DMV had a nice lil side hustle goin. But the jig is up!
NYS DMV no longer REQUIRES old license plates to be turned in to them, but left up to the motor vehicle owner to destroy them. Gee, what could possibly go wrong?
The exact same thing happened to me in Union County Georgia. I turned my tag in and six months later it showed up in New York. I believe my tag as well as around 125 others were sold after being turned in to our county tax office. These folks can upload a copy of their receipt for turning the tag in if they can still get one. My receipt is what cleared me. It was easy to do on the New York website. NYPD eventually seized my tag and destroyed it.
12 year old receipt?
@rbryson07 exactly, and "eventually ceased the plate" but didn't mention that since it's New York they likely let the person with the plate on the car walk away without even giving them a ticket.
@@mrbyamile6973 Wut? One minute New York is chasing people half way across the country and the next minute they are letting them go. NYC has lower violent crime rates that a lot of places
Every flea market I go to has people selling license plates, older and newer. Lots of people collect them.
And a lot of the things at flea markets are stolen. I had my hose and sprinkler stolen off my front yard. When I talked to the police as to why anyone would bother, they told me, "Where do you think all those hoses and sprinklers at the flea markets come from."
@@Bill-im6nt But typically they are older plates that what makes them valuable at least that what I think
@heavenly_fury
and hopefully old enough to have no profile on the dmv server anymore so nothing comes back to haunt the past owner.
Im curious. How much do plates usually go for at those markets? Mine was stolen/or fell off the back of my car and Ive been paranoid about it ever since. Im wondering if thieves actually have enough financial incentive to seal them off of cars. BTW for anybody wondering, if you aren't 100% sure that your plate has been stolen off a current car that you use, DONT report it to the police until you are sure. You will not be able to drive that vehicle with the remaining plate on.
Those are not old Iowa plates. We still use that same style of plate here to date
Police are not supposed to scan tags it’s against the law! The vehicles have to commit traffic violation and make a stop!
This is what happens when you have tolls like they have in NYC. Can’t really be surprised with how creative they are getting. I feel for these people that it happened to
ummmm, $300 in fines issued, which means that plate number is on the 'hot sheet' in new york and given to ALL RMP cruisers, yet they dont and havent pulled the van over despite catching it on traffic cam TWICE on the SAME street at different times on different days...something smells like something that came outta the east river here...outdated plates being sold to illegal immigrants, or human trafficking? someone in new york is covering something up here or being told not to stop the vehicles in question...40 plus plates are in question: my spidey sense tells me this is a bigger story than media is gonna be allowed to cover...
why do i say that...the state of New York sent an 'e-mail' rather than an OFFICIAL LETTER to this family telling them the fine is being removed...arent we all told EVERYDAY to look at 'suspicious' e-mails as 'spam' or "phishing'? what state, what DOT office ANYWHERE sends an 'e-mail' as an 'official response saying they are quashing a lawful fine?
And they're all registered to guys named John--look: John Whorfin, John Yaya, John Smallberries...
Your hatred is overthinking this. License plates being used by people who are tired of paying fines and fees from automated ticket cameras. Plus you realize that traffic cams aren't issuing tickets in real time right? That camera footage is analyzed later and tickets sent, so yeah it's not shocking that the vehicle was not pulled over despite being flagged twice on the same street in one day.
Cops are rarely on top of their game.
@@Mike__B b.s. nobody reviews the video. The tickets do go out automatically.
Make sure people when you turn your old plates in they are returned in two pieces❤❤
how are they not counterfeit if they all match the years 2012-2014 from the same county, the prison they got sent to obviously didn't destroy them
You're asking how they all are counterfeit if they are all almost identical? Hahaha. That's literally a condition for being counterfeit. Are you a bot?
Different numbers but same county Mr KB retard
@@KB-kp2oz The wrong word was used. The plates were properly issued in Iowa, but were legally invalid for further use once turned in. Probably they were aluminum to be recycled for new plates, that never made it to the furnace. The real question is where the New York users were getting renewal stickers for them. Now those could be counterfeits.
@@charlesyoung7436 Lots of states not issuing renewal stickers anymore.
Iowans: We're obviously the victims of a scammer.
NY: Tough shit. Give us our money.
I live in Buffalo, NY. I see a lot of Iowa plates around lately.
New york could care less, they just hoped that these people would "roll over" and just pay the fine......
They just want your money
Pay these Clowns, says Hochul......
Could care less or "couldn't care less"?
@@justayoutuber1906 Same thing.
"Just paying a fine" is what the Punisher used as a tactic to end a crime family a bit at a time. 🙃🙃
New York is a rotten apple.
How things in Des Moines these days?
Are you serious someone in Iowa sold them to someone you don't even necessarily know the person was in New York New York was the final destination but you need to look at yourself first before you start casting stones
Who asking for the fines to be paid tho
Yes, Iowa didn't bother to decommission/reassign numbers, an Iowa county treasurer saying, "I just assumed" while holding a bunch of case documents, someone from Iowa moved the plates - and it's all NY's fault. How do you know that Iowa hasn't responded to a NY request? Did the paperwork the couple get tell them how to rectify the problem that included Iowa doing some work as well? You don't know. You just listen to a little bit of information and blame the "liberal state."
@@user-wf8ol5hv6k doesn't matter who's asking for the fines to be paid someone in Iowa is DOC sold the plates after they took them from the treasurer You don't know who they sold them to or where and where they ended up is like any other stolen property could end up anywhere You can't blame the final destination Iowa needs to investigate its department of corrections see who took custody of the plates and they're the ones who sold them They need to start questioning them.
It's happened to me before! I turned it in to motor vehicles and SOMEHOW the plates got out and I was getting parking tickets in NYC! So I decided the next time I have to surrender plates, I'd breakem' in half. Motor Vehicles tells me "oh no, you can't do that". Well how else can I be assured that they won't get out again?
I'm from Iowa. They are older looking license plate designs.
People hang on to old plates all the time. The question is; why isn't the plate just completely removed from the system. Why is it coming back on a database? Obviously the numbers get regenerated at some point, but there should be a mandatory period before numbers are reissued.
DO NOT TURN IN YOUR PLATE TO THE DMV DETSTROY IT and if you have to pay a fine , so be it. Or destroy it and report it stolen
Exactly but people are not that smart
I keep my plates I never turn them in
@@billyhatcher643Same. 30 years of car ownership, multiple states, never turned them in.
My first reaction, "People turn in their plates? I didn't even know that was a thing and I've had cars in multiple states." Is that an Iowa law or something?
Now that’s just like super paranoid. You can’t cancel your insurance in New York State without a plate surrender certificate.
It's funny how the accused in legally sanctioned extortion is always guilty until proven innocent. If the city was responsibly for the accused legal costs and loss of wages to sort it out, I bet they would spend a few more minutes to make sure they got it right.
“Iowa department of corrections picked them up”.......HELLO....THERE IS THE ISSUE😂🤯
Lady needs to involve her Congressman or Atty General. Dealing with the NYS bureaucracy is a nightmare.
The Iowa attorney general should be investigating who in Iowa is stealing plates at the DMV.
NYC not NYS
@@MessyPointedBlob Forget it, you're trying to use reason and logic with hillbillies.
@@MarkfromNewYorkNew York State as a whole isn't much better than New York City.
They should not be giving speeding tickets via cameras anyway.
if it was not for the speed cameras this criminal activity would not have been discovered
Agreed. My state doesn't use them on the grounds that you don't get to confront your accuser in court.
In Chicago, the private company who paid a flat rate to the city (not a typo) to install and monitor speed cameras (the company monitors the cameras and sends out tickets and the COMPANY keeps whatever fines they collect) got caught editing videos to make it look like people were speeding and running stop signs, etc. Gee, what could go wrong? Scammed me out of $200.
Sounds like Iowa didn’t destroy them like they shouldve
as a license plate collector, this is really easy to do. You can get old plates for cheap and put them on your vehicle quite easily. Could be an inside job as well, but it's not difficult to get your hands on old plates. Just saying.
Just one more reason red light cameras and speed cameras should not exist. When you get a ticket from a city you have never been to. If they were to pull the vehicle over, the issue would be resolved rather quickly with the person that was driving getting their vehicle impounded.
then how would we know about this crime if you drivers would obey speed limits and stop sines and trafic lights you would not get a ticket
Red light and speed cameras are not allowed in Nevada. It's actually illegal. I love Nevada.
In Oregon you can drive for years on out of state expired plates and tags.. the police won't inforce the laws on automobile licensing..
You Californian locusts figure this out?
Seems like Maine has the same issue.
A friend of mine drove for at least five years on Oklahoma (his home state) plates while living in Chicago.
The place that writes these tickets don’t care. They are contracted by the city and they write the tickets and the department has a desk cop sign them. They are normally signed by the same officer so thousands a day they don’t care about anything except money. You have to take it to court and show it’s not yours. The judge will be the one to toss it.
It’s a shame that the Finance Department won’t do anything for these people until a news report gets involved.
Sounds like the facility that was supposed to shred the plates is up to something fishy.
Real fishy
The incompetence and thief was among the County employees. And yet, they have no idea how this happened.
And they wanna blame New York.
License plates, ballots, you know the thing.
I know damn well every single stinking cop in NY has those plate readers.
This explains why I can't find my license plate. Now it makes sense. The great plate scam of 2024.
I had some awesome friends who just liked to steal license plates from vehicles parked overnight by drunks at the night club next door to their apartment complex, and hang them on the wall. When the roommates went their separate ways, they had a license plate draft with the top picks being BOO 4AM and 419 BGT (Better Get Tokin').
@@MilwaukeeF40C They sound like dicks
Wisconsin let me keep my old license plates when I got new ones this year.
I have a buyer in NYC if you’d like to sell them…
I have all of mine and one from my ex.😂
@@azul8811congratulations, you just admitted to license plate fraud 😂😂
@@Keaton0801 _Whoosh!_
The Werefrog also kept the plates the last time they were changed, and live in Pottawattamie county. They said new plates needed this year. The Werefrog renewed by mail, and they mailed new plates. The old plates are sitting in the garage.
You have to provide proof of registration. They can enter these plates in their system and and pull them over. My guess is that gangs or human traffickers got a hold of these.
As an Iowan, we do have a problem of unmarked cars, but I think that issue lies at the state level. The cost to register your vehicle here is not a flat fee, it's a % of the MSG price of your vehicle. So even if the car a pile of junk and it's MSG is $25,000. You're charge $200-$250.
Are Iowans unable to keep their old plates?? Most people in Wisconsin keep theirs and put them on the garage wall or give them to a bar.
It would appear that people in Iowa need to give their old plates back to the county they reside or register their vehicle in.
When I went to trade school in Ohio, the plates stayed with the the person they were registered to. Not the car. So if you bought another car, the plates and registration would be updated for the new car, and you put the old plates on your new car. I actually live in Alaska. Up here, you can get new plates every two years, and there's no 'turn in old plates' policy. So you can do what ever you want with the old plates. Also in Alaska, if your vehicle is 10+ yrs old, it costs $215 bucks for a lifetime registration. No more DMV visits unless you really do need new plates. But you can also get replacements mailed to you.
You can but if you go online to pay for the yearly sticker they will automatically charge you another year on that car even if you had sold it years ago. The DMV thinks that car still belongs to you.
Since the county issues the plates, the county is the one that decides whether they want them back after expiration. Most counties in Iowa don't have this requirement, my Polk County plates are sitting in my bedroom after I moved to South Dakota
I'm confused, the entire news piece avoids the real story. Someone at the Iowa DMV is stealing plates.
well since its BIG BAD NYC it must be that right.. it cant be some clowns from the DMV in Iowa took the old plates and sold them right..
There has to be a buyer in order to complete the transaction tho.
Don't you think a news team would actually report on what the scheme was if they knew the "real story"? News channels live for such things. I didn't need the news team to tell me "we think something illegal happened in Iowa". That's pretty obvious from the story.
In the video it was mentioned the plates get turned over to the department of corrections for recycling as standard procedure. How do you know your "real story" is accurate? It could very well be someone at the department of corrections instead of the dmv who is the culprit in Iowa here.
Because that kind of 'journalism' is a dog whistle to the local hillbillies. It's much better for ratings to blame NYC.
I work for a company that ships products out by independent trucking companies. On one occasion, a shipper still had hundreds if not thousands of license plates from a previous job still remaining inside their trailer. Innocent error at the time because, I'm sure, no one would suspect they could be used in commission of a crime
If New York gets less money, I’ll call this a win.
Here where I'm from, old plates go directly to a recycler and baled right away
I live in Brooklyn, not far from where that picture was snapped. I've seen this exact van on the street in that area of Brooklyn, off of Linden Boulevard. It's the only Iowa plated vehicle. I recognize that county name and the first numbers.
Citizen's arrest! Gotta be an illegal alien!
If they have proof of return, it’s not their problem.
yes, cut your old plates in half. if you cant cut, keep bending them in half until they snap. they are usually think aluminium.
Iowa needs to pay, someone in their dept messed up., or sold them on the sly.
I would check on DEI employees with the names Pedro, Gonazalez, Migueal, and Ai carumba..... Poor America.....
@@ricksmith4736 easy ricky your white hood is showing.
its called government agents using the plates. Thats whats really going on here.
How incompetent not checking if the plates match the vehicle.
The person that labeled this video needs to take English lessons........
At least grammatically review their post before, posting their crap.
There’s not much in life that’s not messed up at this point.
Really? You fall for the news fear mongering that easily?
Here's an idea why don't New York worry about real crime first and then worry about someone speeding
Because speeding fines bring in money whereas capturing, prosecuting and incarcerating criminals costs them money. Regardless of the fact that that is precisely why they are given ginormous sums of money they still see it as an economic proposition.
NYC incompetence. Government incompetence.
I’m from California and I can tell New York City whoever runs New York you guys are not doing your job. It’s embarrassing.
I imagine a Californian would know how to run a state 🤣
"Old Iowa license plates found on cars is New York"
It is? Really? Are you sure about that?😎
We need to blame the state of Iowa for providing old tags information to New York City.
They think people will pay rather than go through the bullshit.
Once again we needed a news organization to make the government goons do the right thing. Good job.
people are getting fed up with these organizations not doing their own due diligence. these plates should have been destroyed immediately. good job Iowa for failing to do your one job.
Welcome to the neo-liberal multiracial globalist order
" 'Cause I'm Finfeather Lewis and this here is Willard Clark, and we the Pottawattamie County Plate Patrol."
The state of Iowa should sue NYC
Lol i'm from new york. I dont blame you for not wanting to come over here lady! 😅
I will bet illegal immigrants have something to do with the plates.
How dare you... America needs them....And Joe Biden is sharp as a tack.....
I'll bet you a 'real Mucian' flyover type sold them those plates.
Wait, the prison picked them up? What mystery?