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You should try the delta ffb0412uhn, which is more powerful than the delta in the video. It spins at almost 20k rpm
I am using a Thunderoos fans for my Arrma Kraton 8S EXB and for my Outcast 8S EXB. They work operfektly without any problems. They customize the fan as you wish. Thunderoos is company from Sweden. The prices are from 45€ up to 110€, but these are worth for this money. You have to try those fans
Im using a 1.82 amp "stacked" server fan on my 8s Vigilante. Works great.
I've learned how to make fans and do more, too. Not sure if you remember our exchanges in the past, but one of my NTF fans broke within an hour... had to learn!
Yeah I remember we chatted, wish I could’ve given you the advice I know now. I’m learning to. Thanks for following my channel
I used zip ties to fasten the motor fan down to the center brace going from each end of the shock towers. Worked like a charm.
Very informative!!! I learned quite abit!!! I'm waiting on 5($18.60) of those fans now and 1/4 aluminum sheet to make my own adapter plate. Just need 1 or 2 more parts and fabrication will begin!
Awesome! Making those plates yourself, that’s ambitious. Be sure you include the center support system, it’s crucial. Nobody in the states is making them, don’t know why. Maybe you can send me a couple LOL
Bash on brother!😎💪
Not much to fab 4 holes
I got my fans off ebay also good info man. One thing I look at is the cfm as well as amps.
Hobbywing makes a beautiful heatsink that wraps all the way around your 40mm can. You have to remove the motor to install it and do a little bending but once it's on it really does the trick.. the fan that comes with it isn't so hot but the heat sink is awesome
Link?
I have those exact AVC Aliexpress fans. I found them to be pretty powerful. As you mentioned, they pull 1amp of power. I performed some tests and ran them on 4S. If you think they push air on 3S, try 4S, they really blow. I know the recommended range for the voltage is, nominal 12v, max 13.8v. But after watching RC guy garage, setting up his fans on 4S, I decided to try it as well. So far, so good. I also bought some 50mm high-speed server fans from Ali, they pull 1.65 amps. The 50mm really levitates off the ground on 3, and 4S. In my quest to experiment, I also purchased a push/pull combo 40mm high-speed fan. that one pulls 2 amps if I remember correctly. That can push 36 CFM of air. 36 watts. the fan is basically a dual-fan setup. My next experiment is a 60mm high-speed fan. that pushes 2.2A at 12v. or, Air volume: 87.87 CFM. Do you have the links for the screws you showed in your video? And for the washers for the screws, you showed as well?
Just FYI aliexpress has the exact yeah racing heatsink for aroundd$12 buck, free shipping.
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001812369226.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.51923c00CcsBFn&mp=1
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40mm push/pull fan: www.aliexpress.com/item/32263024662.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dpmYjqp
Awesome!, Thanks for the comment, and thanks for all the great information! Yes if you check the description of my video you’ll see I have a link called “high powered fan DIY”. In it you’ll find the screw kit.
I must say I’m pretty impressed with the different power fans you’ve been experimenting with. I myself have experimented less with the different powers and more with the ways to make them more durable and extreme bash resistant with the shock mitigation tactics.
Actually my biggest frustration is trying to find a heat sink with a solid 360° mount option as well as corresponding holes for the 40 mm X 40 mm fans. Do you know if one exists?
@@EastTactics I had similar issues trying to find a decent heatsink for the fans. But, I did find a few options. This one is not a 360 heatsink, but it does clip on pretty good to the motor. And you can mount a 40mm fan on it. Of course, it will depend on the size of the motor you have. mines are TP-4072 and a hobbystar 4092. And a few arrma blx stock motors. They seem to fit well on them.
I also found a heatsink sold by Hot racing, that one fits nicely on my motors as well. And it accommodates the fans well. Both of the heatsinks I mentioned can accommodate the 40mm fans.
My challenge has been in finding a heatsink that can accommodate the 50mm fan. I did find that this hot racing heatsink comes with another mount to be able to mount a 50mm fan. It comes with one already.
Here are the links:
Genetic Heatsink:
40-42mm Aluminum Motor Heat Sink-www.aliexpress.com/item/4001241939525.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d1Etc3f
Hot racing heatsink:
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Again… Thanks for the information really appreciate it. Yeah, I’m just not happy with clip on heat sinks. When it comes to hard bashing it just needs to really go all the way around for that security. I’m running the stock 2050 Kv motor.
I do think that the same amount that I picked up to connect my 40 mm fan to my ESC could also work to attach a 40 mm fan to the heat sink that I showcased in my video. However the website that sells them now wants to charge over $25 just to ship to the USA. Which is just too much.
@@EastTactics $25 for shipping? That's crazy. The store I bought it from, if I remember, was free shipping. When it comes to Aliexpress, and other sites, I always shop around. I never buy in the first store I visit. I also check on banggood.com, ebay and Amazon. Like you said, when it comes to hard core bashing I would prefer a wrapp around heatsink, but as you already know, they seem to be hard to find, at least for our scale of RC and motors. There is an alternative that I forgot about. Its a hobbywing heatsink that I bought some time ago. It is for 40mm motors, and it wraps around the motor. I don't remember exactly where I bought it from, but I think it was Amazon. I believe it was somewhere between $10 and $15 at the time. Check for 1/8 scale heatsinks.
I should mention, that game changer RC also sells blue heatsinks for 40 to 56mm motors, that from the pictures I saw on his ebay store, wrap around. At lest one of the models he had. You can inquire with him to get more details. Hope the info helps.
@@lexsteel12 thx! I’ll look into that. 👍
Ya I emailed the site that was charging that insane shipping (unfortunately there the only ones who sell this mount adapter, that I’ve seen at least) and he informed me that he is working on fixing that. Says he will be going in to add economy shipping. Should be fixed next week.
After install of a double 40x10mm surpass high velocity fan, the 8s outcast had lost power noticably! I tried with and without and definitely felt a difference! The amp draw of fans is quite significant so extra battery pack seems a good idea.
Yeah that is another benefit of running to an external 3S battery. Only do you get maximize power to those fans. But it also doesn’t impact the native system in anyway
Why that’s only a 2amp pull esc is 25 amps
Yeah, as I mentioned I run mine on a 3S battery. But a few times I have run them From my ESC. I couldn’t tell a difference.
Thanks for commenting
A 2amp current draw on a 250amp is 0.008%. Sorry. No way its gonna make a difference.
My good Sir this is what they call innovation!
Welcome to the world of marketing!! I do appreciate your time and effort on this project. However the thing that you must understand is... Supply and Demand.
Are you finding parts I reference to be out of stock, is that what you mean by my needing to understand supply and demand?
I just wanted to say thanks for such an informative video. Learnt heaps and purchased items so I can make myself. Again, thanks so much.
I have big escs max5 max6. I noticed my fans keeps breaking. So I ordered game changer fans. I took my big max 5 an 6 fans out. An put my single game changer fan on. Ran it straight from esc. This thing has so much power they start of slow but speed up . Very power. In my Mojave exb. I ran it in hard condition pulling hills. It keeps esc cool. An I have other r c s . I will get more. Remember to put a screen. On top to keep everything out
I really like the avc 1.1a one. I'm going to buy 10 of them.
Nice, getting those bundles and having lots of backs ups is genius
To me if a normal good fan can’t keep it cool then you are trying to solve the heat problem the wrong way, big fans with all the luggage is not ideal in my opinion I would rather change gearing or upgrade the esc motor combo if more performance is required nothing against fans i fit them as well if the circumstances call for it 🏁
Honestly, your comment is right on point. I did spend a lot of time in my early dive into the hobby providing solutions for cooling, like you put it, trying to cool stock components. It has become a realization of mine ever since I did upgrade my ESC and my motor that, they are staying much cooler without the need of such over the top fans. However, as soon as I started pushing the new motor/ESC combo it did start heating up. Which really just goes to show that no matter what motor/ESC combo you have we kinda wanted to push them pass their limits. So I’m grateful for the overkill fans. However, in a light build your methodology is on point. 100%
Have you ever tested the fans cooling capabilities by having them blow directly onto a small electric weighing scale ? So you can measure by how many grams it showing on the scales. I am only saying that’s it’s hard to judge how much air they are really pushing by simply listening to the sound of the fans working.
I can’t say I’ve ever done that exact test, what I can say though is if you compare say the stock ESC fan to one of these 1amp 40mm fans.
The difference in blowing power is unmistakable.
Now as far as comparing the fans in this video, as they are closer to the same caliber. There is a very noticeable blowing power difference between the AliExpress one amp 40 mm fan and the eBay fan. I know it’s hard to feel the difference when you’re just watching it on a video. But yeah… I can tell you there’s definitely a difference in blowing power.
Such a great video man. I thought I already watched this one but guess I didn't lol. I actually just found these same ones on Amazon for 10 for 35$.. not too much more to get it way faster. I'm impatient. But I also just saw a 1.5amp version of this same fan on there too. I bet that thing screams 😱
Nice!, Glad you found this video. Send me the link to that 10 pack off Amazon.
Awesome video I got 3 fans from AliExpress with the aluminum heat sink it fit nice tight around my 1515 2200kv motor I also deanodize the heat sink with rust stain and polished it wrapped the fans with carbon fiber wrap not as nice looking as NTF or GAME CHANGER but it’s gets the job done 💯
Well done!!
Check out the sanace 40 model 9HV0412P3K001...1.5 amps and entire cage is made from cast aluminum
Interesting! I actually ordered one …too curious
Thunderoo's come with a CNC machined support for the fan structure for $60, way better for bashers than NTX
I found another AVC fan with lower energy draw and higher CFM that i bought for my build out when done, I am currently using a quieter fan that does 12 CFM @36db (so does not sound like a freaking jet) for .16A load.. much more efficient. IF I decide to go with a larger fan and more noise - this is a more efficient and better CFM rating than the one you posted. Also I used the powerhobby mount and created a cowl to convert the 2x30mm fan bolt downs to a 40mm setup. DB04028B12U is the fan with 23 CFM @ 0.66amps.
Nice!
If you want to make a quick video and then publish it as a private/non-public upload. I’d love for you to send me the link so I can check it out.
@@EastTactics Here you go.
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My Kraton 6s loves this cold weather🧊keeps it running cool till I get better fans👍
Ai recently fitted the Ali express fan with the Alzeer racing basher mount. Used it x2, think it stopped working but I hadn’t noticed as I was only doing short runs for a jump. I noticed when I swapped the batteries out that the fan wasn’t working. Got my EXB home and although I thought a stone had somehow got in I found that the arse end had dropped out and snapped the blades
The only fan that I think ( but I can’t find anywhere) is the full ally version that Gamechanger RC build there’s with. I do have a second fan from Ali express that I’m going to fit , just incase I’d damaged it somewhere while fitting so hopefully that will work
Stupid thing is I was on grass and I don’t think I got any higher than +/- 20ft
Good advice on your video though dude , I’ve had some good tips from watching 👍👍👍
Awesome… Glad it helped.
Yeah those things will drop right out if you’re not running the support in the esc amount, or have direct support under the middle of the fan.
Be sure to watch:
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And
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Theres product you can buy made by a company called Geko and its a pad you put on your dashboard of your car and it holds your phone in place. Its about 3-4mm thick but is slightly softer than the stuff you fitted buy way cheaper maybe half price. only problem is its kind of in a kidney shape but its around double the size for the 2/3 the price. im going to try mine out with the stuff you recommended (mine didn't have the bottom drop out, that was a mistake) it actually broke at the point where bottom is fixed and the point the blade spin on. I think mine broke during a jump and the fan shifted inside and the tip of a blade caught the (supposedly carbon plate id bought, which was actually plastic painted like carbon but that broke too) covered that's maybe what broke the fan. Anyway theres no way to know for sure, but it did tear the mesh on top too. Ive made a 4mm extended carbon top plate so the fan can jump up n down a little now too then put cover and mesh on top along with your suggestion for shock. absorption. Ive also collected half a dozen different brand fans to compare build quality but all have 1 common denominator and that is that they all have large fan blades that are fixed over a large area. Although theres no skate parks near me just a pump track the jumps tend to be straight up and not long so impact is increased as you've no forward run off to help with impact. I Know this is a long reply so ill leave it there but ill fill you in with what happens. Keep on making awesome vids dude!!!!!!
Hey no worries brother, I love the long posts/questions. Everything you say makes sense, I look forward to hearing from you as to how everything performs for ya. Thanks for watching my channel and being involved with your messages, it really means a lot to me.
No worries, I hammered the crap out of my KRATON EXB today, snapped a brace ESC came loose, reinforced wing mount snapped , M2C shock stand off broken.
But.............. the fan survived 😁😁😁 Top tip from you dude 👍👍👍
awesome detail. think im gonna go with those aliexpress ones. thanks!
Do you have a link for a adapter for the balance plug on the 3s battery
Yes… It is part of the items included in the link. You can find the link in the description of this video titled “DIY fan parts list”
Thanks for the video really helpful
Great vid , I’ve been doing the same thing using AliExpress fans . Found another make that’s got a bit more kick and had 3D printed adaptors made up to fix them to the esc or heat sinks on the motors . They work like a charm . Not broken one yet and I’m thinking the 3D plastic is acting as a shock absorber 🤷♂️ .
Nice!! What’s the make that you found?
@@EastTactics it’s the Nidec Ultraflo . 12v / 0.74amps
I’m running mine on 8.4v so tested all the ones I could find at that voltage , and this one came out on top .
But I’ve just had a very close look and it doesn’t have the same support structure as the one you show .... so potentially could fail sooner . 🤷♂️
Great video thanks! I'm trying to decide between a 1amp 4028 fan or just spend the money and get the power hobby twister. Speed run only. Thoughts?
Hey I just tried that trick honestly I am not sure but I think that did do the trick, should also mention I have been doing motor swaps etc. But it still didnt work but I pluged it in backwards then it cut on. So im not sure if I re pluged it wrong or if that trick worked. Ima just say it helped thanks
Glad I could help, appreciate the comment
You pay for what you get .buy cheap n buy again .. buy descent n will last a while longer . Just common sense. Good vide very informative. U.K. 🇬🇧 😎🤙👍🏻
You could try some 40x40x28mm fans made by Arctic, they come in 6k rpm and 15k!
Edit: they are much quieter than most server fans
that might be a bit too big though
@@EastTactics That's what she said
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That .24a is plenty strong enough airflow.
Witch plug should the 2 pin that has a red plastic casing in the what port in the receiver
You could always snip it and convert it to a Jst connector. However my guess is you probably could use the red one and just push it onto the right prongs.
So what I mean by the right prongs. On your ESC you have your connector or your prongs sticking up. I believe they’re in the same location on the BLX185 as they are on the spectrum. That being said the inner prong closest to the center of the vehicle is where black would go. The middle prong is where the red would go, The outer (closest to you) is not used. Your fan only consists of a red and black wire. Hope that answers your question.
Hello, i have a question, new to the hobby, so the esc has a fan. And i am going to go offroad with the kit and alot of dirt will come inside along with tiny rocks, so what can i do to protect the fan, stop the dirt and sand from destroying parts and not blocking the airflow as well for esc and motor. Thankyou
Sometimes people use a product like this. I think These are big, however you could cut them to suit.
Keep in mind it’s still a good idea to check your vehicle frequently for small rocks that the fans sucks too it.
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I got a 2020 Kraton V5, it's a beast it's annoying that Arrma did not even include a basic heatsink on the spectrum Firma 2050KV motor, yet off the Horizon website it states in writing that the Motor has a heatsink installed.not on mine ..I'm still researching, your videos are awesome answering the questions i have
Awesome, feel free to reach out anytime!
Awesome! Thanks for following
Why does my esc keep going into protection?
EXCELLENT VIDEO SIR!
Thanks Gaffle!
I made this one shortly after...
just in case you miss it.
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Great video
Awesome video, thank you for sharing!!
I have 6 of these aliexpress fans still haven't assembled them yet waiting on your update l saw these fans from Hardcore rc a few months ago ✌ l also don't want to add a 3s battery since the rig is heavy with all the alloy parts l have added 🤔
Yeah these fan seems solid, I’m still going to incorporate maximum shock absorption tactics into installation everywhere. So between that and they’re inate build quality I think we’re set for a quality basher fans here.
Hey East tactic I purchase the Tattu battery how can I charge it on a Spectrum smart battery charger? It has the xt30 connector!
That’s the 3S battery correct it has an xt60 out? You simply just need to pick up a small adapter that will convert your output terminal from your charger (likely the classic EC5) down to the smaller 3S battery charge terminal on the tatty 3s battery. This should work. Here’s a link.
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@@EastTactics thanks you
i found these new fans 40*40*28 running at 38000 rpm and 39 cfm running at 12v
Nice!
I bought the ali Express fans , ? Do u have a link on the plug to fit the 3s battery balance plug?
Check out the description, I have a master link for all of the parts. It’s called the “DIY High powered fan parts list”.
How to protect lipo to undercharge? with these ultra fans
Great question. one 3s battery will last the duration of a single run. So... I alway just make sure I have a few on me and replace the 3s battery with a new one at the same time i replace the battery in the rig. If by chance you accidently push one of the 3s batterys below the rate which your charger recognizes. You can alway change your Charger settings over to NImh mode and set it to charge for about 10 minuts.... after this... it will be recognized by your charger again.
Even better tho... is to bypass the need to run these fans from an external 3s pack and simply run them from your ESC... if your ESC has a decent outcharge rate. Mostly only ideal if you have 8.4volts output from your ESC.
lastly, it is possible to run these fans from the RC main battery, by connecting the fan/s to your main battery balance terminal. I really should make a video on this tho, believe it or not you can create an adapter that comes off the fan/s that ends in a female JST XH) and modifying the end of the Femail JST XH by cliping off one side of it so if will slide into only half of the 6s battery. it would then run the fans on 3s power from the 6s battery. In thoery... agian I need to make a vid on this and also confirm that running like this wont thro off the balance of your 6s pack.. nothing a balance charge couldnt remedy tho. Stay tuned.
So I bought a 5 pack of AVC 4028 and within 15 mins of driving the first fan has failed. Not sure how exactly. No jumps. Just street driving. Powered by a dedicated 2S 1000 mah pack, the fan blade was all cock-eyed in the housing and seized. Hoping it was a fluke.
Hass to be a fluke my friend, as you know I do a lot of giveaways on my channel and these are the fans that I buy a lot of. I also have been running the same two for months on my set up. So hopefully that one just happened to be a one off.
I assume that you outfitted those fans yourself with JR connectors. You might double check your wiring maybe something went awry
@@EastTactics I actually put JST PH 2.0 connectors on - no wiring issue, the fan blade portion was cockeyed inside the plastic surround. I'll try another one.
Weird, yeah if it was that way without even doing any bashing. It must’ve shipped bad. Hopefully your other ones do the job
@@EastTactics Good news! I got my Mojave back up and running (tons of spur and pinions issues, I think bent motor shaft.. got a new motor) and replaced the fan with another JST PH 2.0 connector - worked for about 20 - 25 minutes on a 2S 1000 mah pack dedicated for fan with tons to spare. No issues with this fan so far. Decent jumps and bashing this time.
@@JKGarageBMW awesome
Game changer!!
I wonder if his model is the AliExpress model I mention?
well done for your video. question ..... does the fan affect the speed of the car? I mean because it consumes electricity, this has a negative effect on the speed of a car;
The quick answer is no. The fans will not ever have a direct impact on speed. No matter How you power them up.
Now in my case, because I run my fans on an external 3s (small 850mah ) battery, my fans don’t even draw from the main battery, which basically just means slightly longer run time. 😎👍
@@EastTactics appreciate really! Thanks for your help. :) I wish the best. Cheers
now that it’s winter, i just re-watched this vid. thanks for sharing, Randy.
question, have you found a fan adapter/connector to a lipo available out there for sale?
As you know, I make my own. Here more tips in that arena
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You can pick these up… but you’ll still need to outfit the fans themselves with the JST adaptor once you get the fans I recommend. Also, only two of the four are useful, for connecting to a 3s battery.
www.ebay.com/itm/304235915047?hash=item46d5dfa727:g:5U4AAOSw9axgTYdu
@@EastTactics thanks Randy!!
Quick question
Can I run a 12v 0.6A rated cooling fan on a 12.6v 12A power supply or will it smoke up?
What power supply are you talking about? Typically people run their fans either from their ESC or from a battery, like a 3S battery
@@EastTactics I'm connecting the fans directly to two 3s lipos in parallel with a total of 12000mah. When 3s lipos are at full charge the battery voltage is 12.6v. What I'd like to know is if the extra 0.6v coming from the lipos will damage the fan because the fan is rated at 12v only. I've always heard people saying it will be fine running higher amps than the fan rating as long as the voltage rating of that fan isn't exceeded..... The lipos exceed the fan voltage by about 0.6v will it matter?
People run those fans (or similar fans) to 3S batteries all the time. You should actually be fine it seems like you’re just barely over powering it. Worst case scenario they may not have as long of a life as you would expect them to have. But it’s doubtful that it would create a, immediate issue.
@@EastTactics thanks man
Which adapter cable did you use to connect to the cell balancer? I will be very happy and grateful if you answer!
Did you by chance seen see either of these two latest vids?
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Also... here’s a quick link to a parts list
DIY High Powered fan parts list
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@@EastTactics Nice! I hadn't seen it yet! I'll watch. I'm from Brazil, I'm waiting for my ebay fan to arrive. United by cooling! Hahaha
Lol... luv it!
Seems like the power hobby fans are stronger than the ebay fans. Almost sound as powerful as the 60 dollar ones
Yeah, the only thing I classify as more important ,especially for bashers, Then power, is its durability. Don’t get me wrong they have to definitely be powerful. For sure my favorite fans of all time though are those ones from AliExpress
Soooo, the fan runs off a separate battery, what kind of adapter do I need to connect it?
Got something for ya 😃👍
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I use game changer fans 👍
I’ve heard a lot of good things about game changer.
@@EastTactics $35 for one game changer fan 🤔
I've ordered all the stuff to make my own fans and I've never ran fans off a separate battery before. I'm just curious how you keep the fans from destroying the 3s lipo from draining it too low?
Basically just whatever you do with your main battery do alongside your 3s fan battery. Meaning anytime you put your main battery back into storage mode. Put your fan battery back into storage mode as well.
Depending on how many 6S batteries you burn through in a normal session. Most people only rip for 30 minutes. Which is one 6S battery. My 850 mA 3S battery has plenty of juice to run through one30 minute session, maybe even two before it gets to voltage levels below 3.5.
You don’t want your cells ever going below 3.5 or 3.4 Volts per cell.
But if you generally Keep her going through two entire batteries or more. Then you might want to have two 3S batteries in your possession.
I bring one of these with me at all times. So I can check the voltage on the fly.
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@@EastTactics awesome man, thank you. As long as it gets me through one run, I'm good. One 6s usually lasts me around 45 minutes. I might get a 1000mah battery to run the fans, I haven't decided. I don't want to add a lot of weight though. So you just put a 3s balance plug on the fan and then plug it into the 3s battery and you're good to go? I'm not doing a switch. Thanks for the fast reply 👍
I put the 3S balance plug on my y adapter switch. I outfit my fans themselves with the JR connectors. But you could certainly run the 3S balance plug directly out of the fan.
Watch this video to see how I made the switch. Of course disregard the switch component of it.
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@@EastTactics heck yeah, thanks for showing me that. I probably will throw a switch on it then, why not. I'll be watching that vid again when I get all my stuff for sure, just waiting on Ali express. I'm so glad you kept forgetting the heatshrink, now I know I'm not the only one, lol 🤣
@@EastTactics yep i use 2200 mah and plug in small cell checker with alarm, get around 4 runs per charge, switched on by rx with 8a controller. lights , motor n esc fans. works great buzzer goes off swap batteries.
Thanks for the mention dude 👍 glad you like the AVC fans, they are the toughest i have found, but they do still break, but have only broken on a really bad landing, from at least 30ft into concrete (th-cam.com/video/X16xhnxN1nc/w-d-xo.html), that was with them unsupported under the Alza ESC mount, Alza does do a mount with a support built in but its not listed on his site (i dont have it either) i have just added support under the fan like you have, and not broken one since.
That’s awesome brother, yeah that video is insane. That skate Park that you guys send her to the moon on is legit. Very impressive. Whoever you have driving to EXP does a great job putting her down correct.
@@EastTactics Thats my 14 and 17 year old sons 😂😂 i land it nose or tail first 😂😂
Hello bro iv the 6s kraton im looking a good van to replace my esc van as I yous mine for a speed run car
Awesome brother these fans are great for speed runners. If you have any questions let me know
@@EastTactics thanks bro
Hey East Tactics, awesome vid bro much appreciated for all the info you put out. I went straight to AliExpress and got myself 4. By the way how was your shipping time?
It says it was gonna take over a month, however it shipped way faster. It was in my hands in a couple weeks. 😎
@@EastTactics ok that sounds alright, thanks for the reply 👍.
Would you be interested in making me 3 esc fans with the shock mitigation and I'd pay you. I have 3 max 5 but I want to plug them into the esc
After shipping...You’re looking at about 40 bucks for three separate basher mounts from Alza. 15 to 20 for the three fans, I have to pick up a new sheet of Sorbothane, 20 bucks. Covers 15, miscellaneous components 15.
I can pull it all together for about 110, It will take a couple weeks I’m sure for things to arrive. Email me the randyeast80@gmail.com.
Do you star building and sell I'm interested
Check out the full playlist I have on doing this project DIY.
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At the moment I don’t sell the assembled kit, but my videos teach how to do it. And when you check the description details in any of the vids, I provide easy to follow links for you to snag all the parts ya need.
Hint, my latest video (most recent) has a giveaway opportunity. Check it out and participate, for a chance to win. The 📦 box I send has many of the parts you’ll need for replacing your damaged setup.
The P157 fan has 3 wires, how did you wire it to work for your application? It’s a power,ground and a third wire that regulates fan speed?
All you need to use is the black and red wire. The third wire can be snipped or capped off. No need to regulate speed.
Unused it just outputs the maximum power based off the volts of whatever power source you are connecting it to. Best use case. A 3S battery
@@EastTactics …. Ok I see that now,, I thought for a second ppl might do a dual rate setup so the fan works harder as the throttle/motor rpm go up. I found the P175 before this video so I’m glad you made this vid to confirm my research💪.. have you run it off a receiver channel on 7.5 BEC? Will it be sufficient and also not be too much load on the receiver?
I’ve have run them off of my receiver before, and in my V4 I am rocking the BEC which pumps my voltage from 6 V to 7.4, I’ve done this as a back up to just in case something happens to my 3S battery. I created a quick adapter that just converts both my fans (two of them) directly into my ESC.
Whether you run one or two fans directly into your ESC or directly into your receiver both are capable of running these fans at the voltage your vehicle is set up at. Sounds like in your case 7.5 V. As you know these fans are rated at 12 V. A 3S battery outputs 11.1 V which is simply maximizing these fans. Running them at 7.5 V is totally good still and is a much better upgrade than the stock fans. I just have a hard time not choosing to push them to output 100% cooling Potential especially on those hot days. I have never run into a situation however where the 7.5 V wasn’t enough to keep my vehicle cool. So more than likely you’re good to go at 7.5 V.
Of course this all really has a lot to do with your gearing ratios etc. etc. and how hot it is where you live. And what kind of terrain your in. Running it in grass is a drastic difference than running it at a skate park or a dirt park.
Prolonged grass runs really heat up your rig.
It’s always good idea to pick up a infrared thermometer/heat gun. I like the laser grip 1080 just to have on hand to check those temperatures. If you dig through any of my videos that talk about temperature you can find the description the threshold you don’t want your motor or ESC to surpass.
That’s awesome you’re being proactive and getting ready for the warm season. In my opinion having killer fans that are basher tough is awesome.
I’ve got other videos to talk about best practices for providing shock mitigation to the installation of these fans. Any questions in that arena let me know. Bash on brother
@@EastTactics … yea man thanks for the reply I appreciate it. At the moment I need to upgrade the fan on the mamba monster x. It’s smaller than 30mm and it’s shorter than 10mm it’s like a 27x7 it’s puny. I’m trying to for a 30x10 and the screws I found that mayyyy hold it to the sinks just barely grabs the threads enough to be snug but it’s not going to be able to tighten up. I have my bec at 6v but it doesn’t look like the esc’s fan also runs at 6v unless I plug the fan into the receiver.
Is your BEC adjustable? If not you might consider picking up an external BEC that way you can adjust it up to 7.4 V to maximize not only power to your fans but also power to your servo.
Regarding mounting your fans. You definitely want something that is solid. Otherwise you’re gonna be fighting fans breaking from their mounted positions especially if you bash hard.
I’m a really big fan of those adapter pieces that you’ll find From eBay.
Of course these are for the 40 mm fans. But the mounting system might be able to convert you away from this 30 mm fan system and upgraded to the 40 mm fan. Not sure though.
www.ebay.com/sch/recall565/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
I’m not familiar with the mamba monster x
So with running two of those fans the standard y harness will work or does the harness need to have a balance lead on the end?, If it's even any made that way
If you wanted to run to the 3S battery, and power two fans, Yes you want the splitter for each Fan on one end and the 3s balance terminal connector on the other. It’s your. Choice if you want to incorporate a switch in the middle.
I can find a pre made version of this anywhere. I did pull together the components needed for you to make it yourself though. See the description for a link called “High powered fan DIY”
I plan to drop a video soon on how to make it, with the items in the list.
So the ebay fan plugs into the balance lead of the battery instead of the ESC?
Unless you run a splitter from the ESC. However what vehicle are you running? Or better yet what ESC are you running. Are you running 7.4 V to your system or 6 V? Really to get the most out of these high powered fans you throw a 3S battery into your vehicle and run both fans from the 3S battery. Then the fans run at 11.1 volts as opposed to 7.4 V or 6 V. But if your system is running 7.4 V then it might be easiest just to run a splitter from your ESC.
Will the aliexpress fans be able to stand the esc voltage from an xmaxx 8s if im running a splitter from esc
I’m pretty sure yes, how many volts is output by your ESC? My guess is 6v or 8.4v. At the higher setting you’d be running the fans at about 75% power. Which for these fans is still quite good. Running from 3S batteries maximize these fans @ 11.1v though. Unless of course your ESC puts out more then 8.4V? Which I think stock it’s set at 6v, with the option to increase it.
But if your ESC BEC is set at 6v, that’s not ideal. Adjust it up to 8.4v.
Oh... I’m presuming you have the firma 160A smart ESC?
I mad not with this Brad but with "game changer" I'm a basher and yesterday doing some rc races with my arrma mojave I have one the motor the duals game changer fans and the mojave flip over like 3 times the whole motor mount and fans They flew out from inside the mojave and the cables all cut the union where the two fans are made to work. broken. I don't know how to upload a picture and 7 can see the one's of "best" rc fans game changer ar crap
I have a question the more amps the more powerful the fan so for example a fan with 2.20amps will that be more powerful then 1.0 amps?
That would be correct, however I might be a little bit leery of installing a fan that is that powerful, that would be way overkill and likely cause too much draw on your system.
@@EastTactics got it thank you 👍
Does allie ship from china cause it says delivery in 2/05 also do you think the .24 would be enough running off receiver in kraton
It’s hard to say, I felt like when those .25 amp fans were running off of 3s battery they felt pretty good. Are you running 6 V or 7.4 v from your receiver? What’s your BEC set at?
If you’re running the V4 stock blx 185 then you have no choice but to only run6 V from your receiver and ESC. I wouldn’t feel very confident myself running the .25a from that set up. I would hold out and get one of the 1amp fans.
@@EastTactics cool thanks I am running stock blx. I'm seriously considering breaking down and getting the max 6 combo. Your videos are awesome. My steering was lagging even after upgrading to a good savox servo than I seen the snap ring trick, put in 3 of them and it now turns on a dime world of difference
Do you still need a heat sink for the ebay fans?
Yes...The only way to hook the 40 mm fans to your motor it’s by a heat sink that’s compatible. Actually that’s been the most difficult part for me is to find a nice quality heat sink that secures really well that is also compatible with the 40 mm fans. If you’re just looking to get a nice simple to install fan set up for your motor you might consider getting The yeah racing fan heat sink combo that comes with two smaller fans ready to go for your moter. You can find that in the “Arrma Kraton V4 parts” master link a little bit farther down in the description.
I’m not sure how invested you are in going with a high powered fans again the best way to maximize them as with a 3S battery. Also if you’re going to go to the 40 mm high power fans I would recommend the AliExpress fans over the eBay fans.
I myself am going to be dropping a video in the next few days giving a step-by-step walk-through on how to modify one of those yea racing heat sinks to accommodate the 40 mm fans. Basically I’m going to be custom drilling my own holes so that the 40 mm fan can attach to it. It’s sort of a pain because where I need a drill is a tapered or angled surface but I’m still gonna do it. That way I’ll have a nice heat sink that wraps all the way around the motor secure is tight and I could also fit the 40 mm fans on to it. I also plan on implementing some shock navigation tactics with Sorbothane. It’s going to be the fifth video in my shock Mitigation playlist
If I'm running one of those ebay fans, do I connect it to the esc or receiver, And would I need a harness for that?
Depends... are you running to your motor, ESC... or both? Let me know.
If running one fan...say to your motor, I would recommend running it to a small 850mah 3s battery.
But if you want to run it into your reciever. You can. I assume your ESC fan is taking up your ESC out.
You could also run a splitter out of your ESC. But remember running from your cars system rather than a 3S battery your only gonna be putting either 6v or 7.4V (depending on your set up, stock V4 is 6V. Stock V5 is 7.4) to your fan which is a lot less than 11.1 from the battery..
@@EastTactics running it from a 3s battery means I'd need that on & off switch too?, I'd rather it just turn on whenever I turn on the vehicle
Running to the 3s does mean that powering on your fans is either from a switch, or ust as soon as you plug it in the fan/s kicks on.
Who sell the protective grill covers
That same website that I mentioned in the video. As soon as their website is back up and running which hopefully should be soon. You’ll be able to find covers there as well. Other than that you might search eBay
I have mamba monster 8s what hardware would need to get those ntf fans to go it
The fans are 40 mm x 40 mm. How many millimeters circumference is your motor? Search eBay Amazon or even check on the formums for what heat sink is compatible with your motor that could also fit a 40 mm fan on it. What all did NTFsend you?
You mentioned you already bought a fan from him? Are you planning to use these high powered 40 mm fans for your ESC? Do you have the aluminum ESC mount?
Check the description in the video for a link that I have titled “ High powered fan DIY”
For many of the parts you might need. But Amazon does not carry the ESC mount. But I should have like a link for that as well.
Also this is a must watch
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New sub . So I drag race and need a fans to keep my motor down out of the two what would recommend??
Ali express for sure!
Could you share the link plz !
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@@jgotdawheel odd... ive replied twice now with the link, and youtube isn't letting it post. i'll post it again below this message right now.
see... now its gone?
Which fan is used by NTF?
The video shows it. Or are you needing a part #?
@@EastTactics Is it on the list? I just wanna buy a few
Why would you want to buy the NTF version my vid warns not to use those. The ones you want are the AliExpress fans. Link in description
AliExpress Fan -
a.aliexpress.com/_m0IES2F
@@EastTactics It's for a speed run car, not a basher.
@@JimmyKay1976 They're both 1.00A fans so they have the same power. Its just that the AlliExpress version is built better.
However if your insisting on even more power, and you dont plan to bash it. then check this beast of a fan out. its 1.5A!
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Additional facts;
rpm is completely useless when it comes to cooling fans. It just sounds good for marketing. CFM is the only thing that counts. If advertised low rpm cooling fan", nobody would want it because of miss information that a lot of people have been fooled into believing, but a 32cfm or 35CFM fan with a 14.8v 4s connector is convenient and a power house, it's also pushing a insane amount of air flow and not just fan noise with high rpm numbers.
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Hi bro could I run the fan with a 3s battery 2200 mah 11.1v 3s 35c
Yes it would work beautifully. A little bit overkill as far as the weight and size goes but that’s OK. I only recommend the 850 mA battery because it’s just so small light.
@@EastTactics 100% bro love ur channel big van of yours ur a gentleman bro thank u so much I’m sammy from Northern Ireland Belfast
Nice to meet you Sammy feel free to hit me up anytime
@@EastTactics thanks so much bro
@@EastTactics hi bro I ordered the same battery and AliExpress fan as urs if u can help me bro and I’m sorry to hassle u I really am but can u give me any ideas hi I can plug the battery in to the fan with out cutting any wires is there an adapter I can buy so I can plug the battery in to one end and the fan in to the other
Sorry bro the one from Ali express
Wanted to get through this video but couldn't stand the delivery
Fair enough, not my favorite video production either
Guy like NTF and WFO take avdange of people in this hobby people need to wake up and see them for what they're greedy WAN#ERS
Why the fun are you chass flapping yo rc anyway like that =/
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