Great idea putting that white shade cloth above you while talking.. great soft light, makes your talking shots more more pleasing looking.. another great review
This quad is priced similar to the Defender 25, but much smaller. Almost in the Pavo Pico/Mobula 8 size range. How do you think it compares to these quads?
On Amazon i found a drone name goolsky drone and it had 8k camera 5000m range and with GPS and it costs only 200 dollars should i buy it or its a scam please someone tell me help please 🙏🙏🙏🙏😭
Probably not a scam but I don't suggest getting it, usually the quality is not great and they don't take good footage My suggestion is getting an used DJI MAVIC Mini, can find for the same price but it's actually a very very good drone
Haha the crow he’s like that bird is the nimblest I have ever flown with😂. Awesome dog fight bro. I love the small quads. They really have came along way. 👌🏼😎
Woww, that dog fight with the bird was epic!! So fun!! Very nice little drone, I'd consider buying this frame and mounting one for myself. I have a custom Foxwhoo25 with O3, but it just doesn't fly very well, and lots of vibration and jello with the O3. Have you noticed any jello on this one? Thanks for the video!
All 2 inches are very easy indoors it's amazing, 4s ones are powerful and have to manage the throttle a little more, but if you want can use a 3s or a bigger 4s to make it smoother
@Rimzler I bought that props after this video, hoping for similar performance for my cinelog. Cineon and Cinelog both have 5500kv motors. Good to know this is works. Looking forward to see a comparison video!)
Hey Mate, great review. Thinking of getting one too. But there is also the Z25 which makes it hard to decide which one is better for me. Mainly flying without any action cam and indoors/backyard. Do you have an opinion on that?
Hi Mate, Do you by chance have a betafile dump file for this drone? I did something and my backup doesn't have UARTs or VtX Setup or really anything lol. My bad.
I have but am travelling at the moment, you maybe lucky I may have it on my travel laptop, send me a dm on Instagram with your mail, I will send it if I find, otherwise I can send in about 10 days once I'm home
Awesome footage with the dog fight in the air! Is the drone quiet? Compared to the GepRC Cinelog 20 and BetaFPV Pavo Pico? Wondering which one to get .......
@@Rimzler I own this quad and the gps sucks. I’ve replaced it with a new gps but same model, should’ve changed. Why is this a problem? Should I move gps module? I’ve added a nano baro from flywoo. Works good but the gps rarely locks. Maybe it’s the dji antenna blocking the tiny gps module? - UPDATE : Was definitely 03 antenna blocking gps signal, the gps module is just too small to be mounted in back. I removed the naked gopro mount and moved the gps to the front in its' place. I'm getting 13-15 Sats Locked within 1-2 minutes.
It's a great copter, I have and love it too. However, I deleted all the settings when flashing, and now it doesn't even pick up.. Does anyone kindly have a --dump all-- file for me to fix my mishap? LG Christian
I am traveling right now, and don't have the drone available, send a dm on Instagram I'll send when I'm back, alternatively ask axisflying support they will help you
Could you pls make a video of this drone but wit naked DJI 03 and with no GPS. Save around 20 grams of weight but I have not seen anyone do it .. I want to buy axis C20 but wit less weight as possible
Hi there! Awesome review, especially loved the dog fight with the crow! Question, for indoor flight, say for real estate indoor viewing, would you normally fly in Angle or Acro mode? Thanks in advance!
Ahahha thanks! I'm a bit rusty because i'be been flying a lot with the avata lol, i believe the gemfans 2023 are some of the best props I've tried so far, props with more blades are punchier and quieter but lack that top speed, also they draw more Amps and are more prone to propwash
Carissimo bel video come sempre, una domanda, io sempre con 4s 650 ci faccio 2m e 30s senza stressarlo eccessivamente, i 5minuti dichiarati non li ho mai visti. Dal video pare che stai sotto ai 3m anche tu o sbaglio? Ciao grande ;)
@@Rimzlerinfatti ho risolto, ora faccio 5m senza massacrarlo quindi TOP! Di nuovo complimenti per i tuoi video! Spunto se posso permettermi…potresti fare un Q&A una volta ogni 2-3 mesi in live 👍
Hai assolutamente ragione, il fatto è che non riesco a programmarle, capitano quando magari costruisco un drone etc, ora sto provando a collegare gli occhiali al simulatore, magari è carino fare il qna mentre volo! Grazie per il suggerimento proverò a dare un po' di preavviso ☺️
@@Rimzler sono da poco tornato a volare testavo i firmware di Federov (il creatore di Kiss), e mi fa molto piacere vedere chi come te contribuisce a questa comunity attivamente e con dei contenuti intressanti. Continua così che vai forte!
Do the batteries on this and similar size drones use a battery with an XT30 plug? I assumed so, but I’d see that the have same batteries in XT60. I’m a noob.
Grande vez! complimenti, drone spettacolare ma troppo caro per le mie tasche. Ancora purtroppo volo in analogico con il mio fidato iflight nazgul v2 ;). Quando questi piccolini arriveranno a 200 euro e dei buoni visori digitali saranno sui 300 allora potrebbe essere il momento di cambiare :D ciao complimenti ancora per il canale! :D
Grazie mille! Penso usati i visori V2 si trovano sui 300, e le caddx vista dovrebbero essere scese molto! O3 è ottima sui droni piccoli perché ti rende le build super leggere, e ha comunque un ottima qualità
Ho preso un Avata 2 ( fcc already ;) ) MA...visto la plasticaccia ho paura di provare robe azzardate o volare vicino a cose.....tra questo e il pavo 25( o 20) cosa cosigli? ( o altro!) Facendo una media tra potenza/versatilità/robustezza/features ? ( cmq prima o poi l'uccello insegnerá alle galline a volare e saran c*** 😂)
I have a CineRace 20 2". Don't like it. I am planning to move all the electronics out of it and either put it in a Lumenier QAV-Pro Nano 2" or this Axisflying ChineOn v2 2". still debating what to do....
What a great video, mate!!! I’m looking for a small drone to use in music shows (sub 250 or something around that). Can this drone hold a Naked GoPro 11? By the performance i believe so. Could you help me? Tks! 🙌🏽🚀⚡️
Thank you so much! For carrying a naked GoPro the 4s 2 inch have the power to do that, they are not gonna fly incredibly but should work good, you should get a lighter version, like using a naked O3 or vista
@@Rimzler yeah thats what I was talking about. I would have been lost at least 3 times now without it 🤣. I'm super noob and only 12 hours in Sim and maybe 2 hours of real flight time 🤣
If you put the same propellers on the cinelog they are very similar, i really like this propellers, less punch at bottom end but much better top speed, also smoother and better efficiency it seems! Just make a little more noise
Hi Rimzler, It is nice indeed, just a flight time not good, then they cost very expensive for so small quad. The bird must have these small near you. 😉
Io ho il frame z20, e volevo aggiornarlo al c20 proprio per il GPS. Ora ho fatto un accrocchio, ma che mi distrugge il GPS ad un crash si e un crash no. Trovo utile il GPS perché volo spesso in natura (montagna, campagna) e mi è già capitato di perderlo. Non avendo beeper e gli esc debolissimi da sentire, per ritrovarlo diventa cruciale vedere le coordinate sulla radio e grazie al cellulare, andare sulla posto indicato per iniziare la ricerca. Oltre il GPS rescue in caso di emergenza nei miei casi. Dipende dall'uso che si fa. Io il z20 che mi sono autocostruito lo trovo molto stabile e ottimo per fare riprese per social grazie alla O3. E a confronto del Cinelog35 V2... silenziosissimo. Perfetto per essere notato un po meno.
True, but the old ones were better, they had the fan kicking in immediately after turning them on and it was enough to avoid fogging, this ones the fan starts after a few minutes and is always too late, I put a bit of shaving cream on the lenses and it helps a bit, resting them on my head is so convenient ahahahah, I don't always have a table
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this is one of those videos that can get someone to pick up the hobby. you showed above all how much fun this can be, even on a tiny drone, well done
Great idea putting that white shade cloth above you while talking.. great soft light, makes your talking shots more more pleasing looking.. another great review
Starting having troubles with harsh lighting outdoors, that shade is great both for reviews and for dining under ahahahah, thank you!☺️
crazy flying🔥, how is the noise of this compared to the flylens85 and darkstar20??
Best drone video I've seen hands down
Really fun video! O3 makes this class of drones useful again! Greets, Mario
Ahahah thanks! Just love the 2 inches, when i fly in the Town people are not scared
This is the most entertaining drone review I've ever seen lol
Ahhahahahaha thank you!😂
LOL, one of the best bird chases ever.
Ahhahahaha that bird has been haunting for years
Amazing flying, even more impressive is your home! Keep up the great work.
Thank you sir☺️☺️
The flight with the magpie was awesome
Ahhaha every year the same magpie returns to haunt my drones
@@Rimzler omg that's hilarious
Epic. Best fpv video I’ve seen
Ahahahahha thank you so much!
Good review! This little drone looks great!
It is!☺️☺️
Your flying with bird is best part 😀
Ahahahhahahahahah thanks!
cool, you have a nice dream place. i wish i could live like this place, its a paradise place for fpv pilot. great fly brother.
I just love being in the countryside, has a few disadvantages but in the end being able to rip all day is worthless 😂
Axisflying its so good. Congratulations for this vídeo....very cool❤❤😊
This quad is priced similar to the Defender 25, but much smaller. Almost in the Pavo Pico/Mobula 8 size range. How do you think it compares to these quads?
Just got thr frame and motor kit and built one with the geprc f722 v2 aio flys great! Would you mind sharing the pids so i can compare please?
What would you choose between this or che cinelog 20?
You so much POSITIVE 😊. Like your videos from backyard
It's BEST video to promote this type of drone. 😂
Thanks you! For sure had fun with that bird lol!
On Amazon i found a drone name goolsky drone and it had 8k camera 5000m range and with GPS and it costs only 200 dollars should i buy it or its a scam please someone tell me help please 🙏🙏🙏🙏😭
Probably not a scam but I don't suggest getting it, usually the quality is not great and they don't take good footage
My suggestion is getting an used DJI MAVIC Mini, can find for the same price but it's actually a very very good drone
Haha the crow he’s like that bird is the nimblest I have ever flown with😂. Awesome dog fight bro. I love the small quads. They really have came along way. 👌🏼😎
Ahahahhahahah the bird was confused for sure! Yeah it's crazy how better this little drones are compared to when I started
What would you choose between the manta 3.6 or the stingerbee or the HGLRC Talon or axis flying
Hi, would you prefer the CineON C20 V2 or the Cinelog20?
They are very very similar, especially if you put the same props on them, so get what you find cheaper lol
Very nice video!
Will you test the Flywoo Explorer LR 4 with O3? It also could be under 250 grams, but fly quieter I guess
Wish I can test it, for what is worth i have the first explorer lr and manually added o3, it's a great travel drone
Very nice review as always👍👍
Thank you!☺️☺️
Woww, that dog fight with the bird was epic!! So fun!! Very nice little drone, I'd consider buying this frame and mounting one for myself. I have a custom Foxwhoo25 with O3, but it just doesn't fly very well, and lots of vibration and jello with the O3. Have you noticed any jello on this one? Thanks for the video!
Thank you so much! With the soft mount system there is zero jello is a good frame!
Did you have to remove the crossfire to bind it to your DJI remote or can you just leave it there?
Usually I remove it cause it can cause conflict, most times is fine if is a different port
How does this compare to the darkstar? Would you recommend it over the darkstar
Hey ! thanks for this amazing video ! but have you test it with a naked gopro? how long did you flight ? thanksss
Greg video, nice to see you’re having fun with your C20 as well. I’ve got the 5 bladed props on it, they work excellent as well :)
So, how does it feel compared to a cinelog20 o3 version?
I put the same props on cinelog 20 and they are very similar, will probably make a video comparing 2 inches, i have other 2 drones coming for review
Please do compare video. How easy this to fly indoors?
All 2 inches are very easy indoors it's amazing, 4s ones are powerful and have to manage the throttle a little more, but if you want can use a 3s or a bigger 4s to make it smoother
@Rimzler I bought that props after this video, hoping for similar performance for my cinelog. Cineon and Cinelog both have 5500kv motors. Good to know this is works. Looking forward to see a comparison video!)
Hey Mate, great review. Thinking of getting one too. But there is also the Z25 which makes it hard to decide which one is better for me. Mainly flying without any action cam and indoors/backyard. Do you have an opinion on that?
I think the Z25 has a hard mounted camera where the C25 is on rubber mounts. The C25 in my mind is better for the O3
How do you think this compares to the GepRC Cinelog20?? You seem super impressed with how this one flew (maybe it was the fun of chasing birds...)
I put the same props on the cinelog and they fly basically the same, yeah had much more fun with the bird ahahahah
@@Rimzler How do they compare when it comes to noise? With the new props, do they sound the same? Also, which props did you put on the Cinelog20?
Awesome dude
Thank you!
Hi Mate, Do you by chance have a betafile dump file for this drone? I did something and my backup doesn't have UARTs or VtX Setup or really anything lol. My bad.
I have but am travelling at the moment, you maybe lucky I may have it on my travel laptop, send me a dm on Instagram with your mail, I will send it if I find, otherwise I can send in about 10 days once I'm home
Awesome footage with the dog fight in the air! Is the drone quiet? Compared to the GepRC Cinelog 20 and BetaFPV Pavo Pico? Wondering which one to get .......
Good day sir what sports camera did you use on this video?
The FPV camera is also the action camera, is called DJI O3 System
Which one did you purchase with your dji set up
You have to purchase everything on its own
GPS could be useful for adding RID for part 107 in the US. I just ordered mine because of your vid. Can’t wait!
That's true! For that is very useful, I don't suggest trusting It a lot tho, it's a last resort thing 😂
@@Rimzler I own this quad and the gps sucks. I’ve replaced it with a new gps but same model, should’ve changed. Why is this a problem? Should I move gps module? I’ve added a nano baro from flywoo. Works good but the gps rarely locks. Maybe it’s the dji antenna blocking the tiny gps module? - UPDATE : Was definitely 03 antenna blocking gps signal, the gps module is just too small to be mounted in back. I removed the naked gopro mount and moved the gps to the front in its' place. I'm getting 13-15 Sats Locked within 1-2 minutes.
Great drone i will definatly will buy one
Very nice one!
It's a great copter, I have and love it too.
However, I deleted all the settings when flashing, and now it doesn't even pick up..
Does anyone kindly have a --dump all-- file for me to fix my mishap?
LG Christian
I am traveling right now, and don't have the drone available, send a dm on Instagram I'll send when I'm back, alternatively ask axisflying support they will help you
Whats the diference between z20 and c20 ? Is there any diference ?
This one I reviewed has the soft mounts and no jello, the old one is not that refined
Could you pls make a video of this drone but wit naked DJI 03 and with no GPS. Save around 20 grams of weight but I have not seen anyone do it .. I want to buy axis C20 but wit less weight as possible
I've actually done it on the cinelog20, it makes the drone a little more agile and efficient, and gives more overhead for naked gopros
@@Rimzler I seen that video of yours!!! Just wanted to see if wit the axis flying to see your opinions lol
What's different with z20 ? Thanks
Z20 doesn't have softmounts, may have jello but never tried
I was just thinking that the GPS might be for "Find My Drone". does that work with your goggles?
is this still good with 3s batt ?
Hi there! Awesome review, especially loved the dog fight with the crow! Question, for indoor flight, say for real estate indoor viewing, would you normally fly in Angle or Acro mode? Thanks in advance!
Thank you! When I'm indoors i most often use angle mode, you have finer stick control and can move more precise
@@Rimzler thank you!
With the tpu camera protection, can you still put nd filters on it?
did you used DJI RC2 as the controller? how you setup the turtle mode?
Amazing
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Man, your proximity and gap skills are first-rate. I'd like to see how it runs with Gemfan D51s.
Ahahha thanks! I'm a bit rusty because i'be been flying a lot with the avata lol, i believe the gemfans 2023 are some of the best props I've tried so far, props with more blades are punchier and quieter but lack that top speed, also they draw more Amps and are more prone to propwash
@@Rimzler which Gemfans 2023? 1mm shaft or 1.5 mm shaft ?
Perché non fai un video per vedere come nakezzare una O3? Sarei molto interessato
Tra questo e il cinelog20? Vedendo l'altra recensione sembra andare meglio axis in freestyle
Mettendo le stesse eliche sono molto simili, queste gemfan 2023 sono ottime!
Will this be OK using 4s 850 mah battery
It will fly but you are on the heavy screamy side
Hello thanks for the great video!
What Rates and PID settings do you have for this Drone?
Carissimo bel video come sempre, una domanda, io sempre con 4s 650 ci faccio 2m e 30s senza stressarlo eccessivamente, i 5minuti dichiarati non li ho mai visti. Dal video pare che stai sotto ai 3m anche tu o sbaglio? Ciao grande ;)
Con una 650 andando piano al chiuso li dovrebbe fare 4/5 senza naked
@@Rimzlerinfatti ho risolto, ora faccio 5m senza massacrarlo quindi TOP! Di nuovo complimenti per i tuoi video! Spunto se posso permettermi…potresti fare un Q&A una volta ogni 2-3 mesi in live 👍
Hai assolutamente ragione, il fatto è che non riesco a programmarle, capitano quando magari costruisco un drone etc, ora sto provando a collegare gli occhiali al simulatore, magari è carino fare il qna mentre volo! Grazie per il suggerimento proverò a dare un po' di preavviso ☺️
@@Rimzler sono da poco tornato a volare testavo i firmware di Federov (il creatore di Kiss), e mi fa molto piacere vedere chi come te contribuisce a questa comunity attivamente e con dei contenuti intressanti. Continua così che vai forte!
Will you test mobula8 hd o3?
I hope to! O3 is very expensive!
This is so amazing!!! May I ask if we can purchase this RTF with DJI O3 anywhere from Europe? Except UK :P
a little more color variation than black and it becomes the perfect toy... 😆😆😆 great review...
Do the batteries on this and similar size drones use a battery with an XT30 plug? I assumed so, but I’d see that the have same batteries in XT60. I’m a noob.
Something this size will typically be an xt30, yeah
Do you like it more than the cinelog20?
They give me the same vibe really ahahah both very good
Hi, quick question, which one do you feel is more capable of freestyle, this one or the cinelog 20? thx!
Once you put the same props they behave basically the same ahahah
Grande vez! complimenti, drone spettacolare ma troppo caro per le mie tasche. Ancora purtroppo volo in analogico con il mio fidato iflight nazgul v2 ;). Quando questi piccolini arriveranno a 200 euro e dei buoni visori digitali saranno sui 300 allora potrebbe essere il momento di cambiare :D ciao complimenti ancora per il canale! :D
Grazie mille! Penso usati i visori V2 si trovano sui 300, e le caddx vista dovrebbero essere scese molto! O3 è ottima sui droni piccoli perché ti rende le build super leggere, e ha comunque un ottima qualità
Ho preso un Avata 2 ( fcc already ;) ) MA...visto la plasticaccia ho paura di provare robe azzardate o volare vicino a cose.....tra questo e il pavo 25( o 20) cosa cosigli?
( o altro!)
Facendo una media tra potenza/versatilità/robustezza/features ?
( cmq prima o poi l'uccello insegnerá alle galline a volare e saran c*** 😂)
I have a CineRace 20 2". Don't like it. I am planning to move all the electronics out of it and either put it in a Lumenier QAV-Pro Nano 2" or this Axisflying ChineOn v2 2". still debating what to do....
What motors?
@@Rimzler The Flywoo CineRace 20 comes with the 1203Pro NIN v2 4850Kv
Thanks for this review ! Do you prefer it over the cinelog20 ?
They are very similar, especially with the same props, get the one you find cheaper
Nice review!! Is the camera angle adjustable on this drone?
Yessir, but not mid flight
Did yours come with a tune or is it running Betaflight defaults? Just got mine and its twitching randomly in the air, nowhere near as smooth as yours.
Have thoughts about sending my cinebot30 and purchase that one baby😊
If you need a very small indoor drone a 2 inch is amazing
What a great video, mate!!! I’m looking for a small drone to use in music shows (sub 250 or something around that). Can this drone hold a Naked GoPro 11? By the performance i believe so. Could you help me? Tks! 🙌🏽🚀⚡️
Thank you so much! For carrying a naked GoPro the 4s 2 inch have the power to do that, they are not gonna fly incredibly but should work good, you should get a lighter version, like using a naked O3 or vista
Thank you, mate!
What is max flight time?
Depends on the battery, you are looking at 5/6 m with a 650 mah
It can take action 2?
Superb! Expensive! But superb
Wish o3 was a little cheaper, or better quality for the price
@@Rimzler totally! I've just built 3 quads with them done a lens already £90 and now you show me this quality little beast and I cant afford it 😤😂
Just get the frame ahahah and swap when you need, luckily o3 is very plug and play
@@Rimzler yeh went for the frame kit with the motors, may have to trouble you for the pids late 😉😁🙏
best cineon world
☺️☺️☺️☺️
I think gps is worth it just for the home point but I'm a noob so I find it extremely helpful.
There is no home point like the avata, there is an arrow roughly pointing where home is
@@Rimzler yeah thats what I was talking about. I would have been lost at least 3 times now without it 🤣. I'm super noob and only 12 hours in Sim and maybe 2 hours of real flight time 🤣
@@Rimzler btw! Great channel bro! love your videos.
What is the range
In an open field should be around 10km but of course the battery is not going to last
Wow flies nicely! How would you compare it to Cinelog20? Looks punchier for sure?
If you put the same propellers on the cinelog they are very similar, i really like this propellers, less punch at bottom end but much better top speed, also smoother and better efficiency it seems! Just make a little more noise
Hello friend, nice footage. Can you please give cli file from cineon 20? I bought frame and motor, want to assemble.
Hi Rimzler, It is nice indeed, just a flight time not good, then they cost very expensive for so small quad.
The bird must have these small near you. 😉
That was awesome 😂
Do review on mobula8 o3
Coming soon!
Wowwww
☺️☺️
What a beautiful home in addition to beautiful flying. Is this as good as or better than the GEPRC Cinelog20?
They are very on par with each other, the props on this are better I feel, put them on the cinelog and they fly basically the same
Io già mi ero schiantato 20 volte...ma l'hai piddato prima di volare? Io mio non è così stabile😅
Non li piddo mai prima delle recensioni, li faccio vedere come arrivano
It is small but it can get stuck to your hair :D
Fun flying!!
OMG, what a house. Some people are just so lucky! haha
amazing fly..
This drone vs geprc 20 pls
Will make the video as soon as I review Mobula8 so I can compare 4 drones
@@Rimzler great! I think mobula 8 will be better to freestyle than pavo pico.
It would be nice to see throttle on osd ;)
Great review! Holy cow that thing can really move!
Those propellers are very good!
Great clip thx🇿🇦
hahah awesome chase
HI TBS OR ELRS??????
Crazy territorial bird 😂
Ahahahahahhaha decided my house is a nfz
@@Rimzler I had the same issue in Cancun but dozen of birds attacking my Avata lol
Love it
😍😍😍
☺️☺️
The reason why GPS is required as are almost lost with the bird 😅
Ahahahhahahahahhahaha that's true could have kept chasing😂
Io ho il frame z20, e volevo aggiornarlo al c20 proprio per il GPS. Ora ho fatto un accrocchio, ma che mi distrugge il GPS ad un crash si e un crash no. Trovo utile il GPS perché volo spesso in natura (montagna, campagna) e mi è già capitato di perderlo. Non avendo beeper e gli esc debolissimi da sentire, per ritrovarlo diventa cruciale vedere le coordinate sulla radio e grazie al cellulare, andare sulla posto indicato per iniziare la ricerca. Oltre il GPS rescue in caso di emergenza nei miei casi. Dipende dall'uso che si fa. Io il z20 che mi sono autocostruito lo trovo molto stabile e ottimo per fare riprese per social grazie alla O3. E a confronto del Cinelog35 V2... silenziosissimo. Perfetto per essere notato un po meno.
Can u mount nd filter on that ?? Im buying this one !!!
You can, the same ND as AVATA!
The reason your goggles are fogging up is because you rest them on your head. if you put them away instead it wont fog up. try it. nice review btw
True, but the old ones were better, they had the fan kicking in immediately after turning them on and it was enough to avoid fogging, this ones the fan starts after a few minutes and is always too late, I put a bit of shaving cream on the lenses and it helps a bit, resting them on my head is so convenient ahahahah, I don't always have a table
Dogfighting a bird is crazy lol
Ahahahah he did everything by itself ahahahhaha
I think its better than cinelog20
More stable more power