I used to sell TVs at Walmart, and TCL/Vizio were top sellers, which accurately reflected the budget buyers at the store. Side-by-side, looking hard enough, TCL and Hisense were inferior to Samsung and LG, but the TCL/Hisense had unbeatable prices. To start out, TCL had good enough TVs at very attractive prices. Not too cheap and not too expensive. Now, TCL has the scale and the technology to go big and bring top-tier technology at Samsung, LG, and Sony's level. A major factor to TCL's insane growth is that the Chinese government/provincial governments were known to provide cheap loans to promote industrial production. Building new factories and equipping them is a highly capital intensive. TCL effectively had unlimited loans in their ascendancy, so TCL could lose money without consequences to gain market share until they can compete at Samsung or LG's level.
What percentage of the TCL tvs carried the Roku OS? I bet it's a pretty high number. Also, Chris Larson (the TCL executive mentioned in the video) moved over to Roku a while ago.
@@jensenraylight8011 Similar quality and lifespan with super low prices. Then, it's possible. Scaling up manufacturing to that make sub-$100 MSRP 85-Inch TVs would be insane. Next, build a reliable logistical support network for RMAs. Then, you would need a lender (government or massive financial company) to bankroll your losses until you become profitable.
@@jensenraylight8011 The key is "surviving" until you get profit. There are tens of Chinese company that failed. It's like a VC really. Invest in 100 and hope that 1 will succeed to cover the 100 lost.
TCL durability 15.000 hours, If you use your TV for 3 hours every day you can be sure that it will be damaged within 10 years if there is no electricity problem. Samsung, LG, Sony, sharp, toshiba, panasonic durability over 20.000 hours. And actually, if we compare the image quality with the same resolution, TCL loses to Korean and Japanese brands tv
@@AquaSmartTV SONY TV is not that durable. I have a friend who likes SONY very much, but his TV has only been used for less than five years. Because of the high repair price, he finally gave up and bought a Hisense.
I got a 50 inch 4k TCL TV for like $350 almost 8 years ago when 4k TV were at minimum $500-$1000. Only just upgraded to a bigger TV last year. TCL is definitely the value brand.
TCL may be great value but Sony is best quality. I would honestly would rather pay a little more for the quality considering tvs last for years. Plus TCL isn’t gunna stay this way forever
I agree. They offer a great product at a great price. I pretty much only recommend and buy TCL & Ffalcon (TCL's budget brand) TV's these days. I also don't connect it to the internet (I connect my PC and/or a Fire TV stick to it), so I'm not overly concerned that it is a Chinese company.
I bought a TCL TV in 2018 to use as a desk monitor and it still works perfectly, all day, every day. I'm almost sad it's still fine because it'd be nice to upgrade but I can't justify replacing my 55" 4k monitor with a slightly better 55" 4k monitor
I bought a TCL series 4 4k 55" TV (Android version) and use it as a monitor. Works great. The only thing I hate is the Remote they have like no buttons/functionality. As far as the TV I actually bought 2 of them the same day as Best Buy had a sale and they were only $250... how can ya go wrong with that deal. I put the other one in my bedroom. The only other complaint is that the Wifi drops the connection more than it should. So the negatives for me are the remote and the Wifi as far as the image I think its great. It would be better if Windows had less problems with scaling issues for apps/programs
Saying something you bought in 2018 is still working perfectly to this day kind of gives me a sense of disappointment. My grandparents had an old Zenith wooden console in the basement that still worked at 30 years old. Today's electronics are crap when it comes to quality components.
I use a 10 year old, 22" desktop monitor that I picked up on clearance. When this one dies (if I can't repair it), I'll be getting another used monitor.
TCL was never an unknown brand for me. I remember my older brother and my dad bring a massive black TCL CRT TV in the early 2000's. It looked massive for its time and worked with no issues. The only issue was that the remote was pretty fragile and had to be replaced every few years. In the early 2010's when my brother got married he got the CRT as a hand me down and we got a new LCD TV. Even then, the TV kept working for years. Probably 15+ years. So the TCL TV brand was a good brand to me even though I didn't know anyone else with the same brand of TV. I can only imagine that they got better with their TVs!
We had a TCL 39 inch tv, and its 7 yeArs old it is still functioning asf. Its outdated with the smart tv of today, but with the help of tv stick, we can watch netflix no problem.
First time bought a P series in 2019. Wich is the cheap, entry level series. In Romania, they are quite new on the market. But i gambled. And i won. Now, i bought a second one, but this time it's a top notch C845. Wow. With a bit of tuning, i'm geting close to oled black, but at half the price. Not to mention i bought to pair it with PS5. It has all the goodies : miniled qled, 4k, 144hz, ALLM, VRR, 240hz game boost, Game master, dolby atmos and vision, HDR10+, 2000 nits brightness. the 55" model has 376 local dimming zones. The top 85" version has 976. So, no backlight bleeding&shit. This is the best bang for the buck.
same i got a TCL miniled last year in winter ,55 C805 miniled for almost half the price i paid like 5-6 years ago for a middle tier, lcd tv from Panasonic , and side by side its way better that that older Panasonic tv , much better contrast ,black level , brightness , colors and 0 stutter in apps + tone of new features . that tv was a Panasonic CX 680 so not a bad one by any means . Not to meantion i manage i got 5y warranty for it si in this current tv market in my country this tv felt like a steal ^^
Bought a 55 inch TLC mini-led quantum dot for 800 euros 2 years ago. The image is great. It's in a very bright room so I went mini-led instead of Oled. No regrets.
I bought a sony bravia in 2013 for about $2500. It suddenly wouldn't turn on in 2020 and the repair center said there would be no timetable for when it would be fixed since it's an old model and they had to scavenge their warehouse for a model similar to it for parts and it was the start of the pandemic lockdowns. I bought a similarly sized $400 TCL without expectation since I was on a budget. 4 years on, it's still up and running and my sony ended up getting junked because they couldn't find any parts.
I had the same issue. Bought a Sony TV in 2019 and it died after 3 years (it had a big green box that kept getting bigger), meanwhile the TCL TV I bought in 2016 is still going strong. These days I only buy TCL & Ffalcon (TCL's budget brand) TV's.
My Sony x900e died at 7 years. Barely worth it. I say pay under 1,000.00 only pay 1,500 for OLED. Then buy the 5 year warranty for peace of mind at Best Buy.
@@KenjiEspresso yeah , a lot of people expect their TVs to last 10-20 years like the old ones used to.. and that’s why they don’t get the protection plan/extended warranty. Either that or they just say they’ll buy another when it dies.
I have to say I've always been a Sony fan for my tvs and my wife decided to buy the family a new TV for the living room and got a TCL 55" TV to replace our 46" Sony TV. I was a little mad at the start for not speaking to me about it but she wanted to get something as a surprise so could not be to mad. That said I've been nothing but impressed with it. The Android OS and TV is very fast, picture quality is very good and so far I've had no issues. It's definitely made me rethink what I will get when I look at upgrading to my next TV.
This video is incomplete without mentioning RokuOS that most TCL tvs used to carry. A huge part of their popularity can be attributed to them adopting the Roku OS early on. Also, Chris Larson doesn't work at TCL no more, hes at Roku today.
If it doesn't have Android TV OS, it's useless in these days, you need proper support for FHD or 4K and corporations like Disney will not allow you to watch full quality on some "weird OSL," they won't allow it neither on PC with Windows anymore. This problem with streaming wars went already too far and it has to stop.
Asus, Acer and Foxconn are Chinese lol. I'm not talking politic I am stating their race. Of course Taiwan says they are not China and China says Taiwan is China but they are Chinese race. Much like Jews says they are not Arabs but they are
Just got me a TCL TV today and im never going back to Samsung after this. Android TV, Neo-QLED, Dolby Vision, FreeSync VRR, 55 inches, a reasonable price and the list goes on
I bought a Vizio TV and it broke a while back. It wasn’t even a 4k. I recently got a TCL 42 inch 4K TV and it works perfectly. Great television, and it was inexpensive as well compared to other brands.
I bought a TCL back in 2018 it was their mid tier I forgot the exact model but has 4K HDR with Dolby vision. I’m stunned how well the picture quality has held up and the Roku OS never hiccuped on me. My dad bought a Vizio 75 inch in 2021 and it honestly started to degrade after year, the backlight started to fail to the point like last year or so dark scenes were impossible to watch. So Vizio definitely living up to the their horrible reputation while TCL made me not hesitate again to buy their TVs
i've had two 50 inch vizios back to back in the last 10 years or so and both times the tv's died around the 5 to 6 year mark which seemed ok for what i paid but this time i bought a tcl and i gotta say i'm impressed with the image quality. wish i would've bought a tier above the 4 series instead.
We bought a 32 inch TCL LCD around 5 years ago for 145usd. It has been hanging there since then because the motherboard fried after the warranty was over. And we haven't been able to find a replacement part in the market either. So, there's that about TCL
TCL seems to be really good for the average consumer who wants decent PQ without paying $$$. Will not buy an LCD TV though - Only TV I'd ever consider buying these days is an OLED or other self-emissive/per pixel lighting display - which is still likely some time from TCL, at least in the >80" range. I might consider a 100"+ LCD TV for my projector space .... but it won't fit in my doorway/stairwell :(
I had (well still own but don't use anymore) a TCL 42" 4K tv which I used as a monitor for several years. I've since updated to a Sony 65" for my living room and an 55" LG OLED for my bedroom but TCL is surely the best bang for the buck along with Hisense.
I came from well known TV brands like my old Toshiba Plasma, Samsung LED. Unfortunately the Samsung TV from 2015 stopped powering on so I had to pickup another TV. I was skeptical about Chinese brands like Hisense and TCL. So I started following reviews on the TCL QM8 from various YTubers I follow. Not seeing the TV in person but impressed with the price, reviews and how close the QM8 was compared to previous years OLEDs I pulled the trigger last August and still amazed on how the TV performs. Although it’s not an exact match for the ultra detailed black levels, motion clarity and specular highlights like typical OLEDs, the high brightness levels, not having to baby-sit the TV to avoid burn and lower costs per size of the TV in was my selling point. There are some cons such as the QM8 UI is not ultra snappy like my Samsung or ATV. It takes a bit for the UI to be fully loaded and functional. Which is pretty disappointing for TCL’s flagship line. Seems as if the software updates have been slowing things down compared to day one of ownership. Overall it was a good bargain.
Absolutely love my 85” TCL QM8 and Hisense 100” U8K(only paid $2999 brand new). I even own the LG 77 inch C1 and these new value brands are incredible for performance/price, I’m done with OLED until the pricing is cheaper and if they get bigger.
2:07 that timestamp is the MAIN reason why I went back to Samsung unfortunately...most TCL's give of a slight "fingerprint " effect in the screens background. I seen it instantly when it first powered on. I changed all type of settings(some has a lack of adv. video Settings) and still the same effect in the background...had to take 2 back and just went back with my 55" Samsung. P.s. Look on the left side of the cartoon being played...sky blue background.
I think the secret to their success is they offer mid-range TV's with high range level specs and performance. It's really hard to beat TCL pricing and quality . Though recently Hisense has been making a play at it and seems to be doing pretty well. It's even more aggressive with specs and pricing sometimes... though their picture processing and QA seem to be slightly behind TCL. but it's getting their. Every year they get a bit closer to narrowing the gap.
It's not that Vizio had bad quality per se, they have poor support and poor software. My 2021 PQX looks phenomenal still but they literally broke some features and made it unstable and still have failed to fix it with a software update. Their biggest mistake was trying to compete with the higher end tvs lik OLED. They forget half the value on the higher end is support and features, they go together. You can't slap a 3000nit panel and call it high end.
Holy crap, I wish I had the space and money for a new TV right now, 85” on sale for $1499 CAD. Hari, you've convinced me to seriously consider a TCL for my next TV.
TCL uses Roku OS, the one that LG uses, the software update will be up to Roku but I don't think it will be a problem. I also have an older Sony TV and the Android TV OS on them was absolutely atrocious, it's so much less responsive than what's on LG and TCL. Plus nowadays you really only need the TV OS for audio/visual configuration, a Chromecast or Apple TV unit will be better for media consumption.
@@metalfly.Android TV is the reason I favored Sony. It’s better than Samsung’s proprietary tv OS and in my opinion better than Roku in terms of being an integrated TV experience. It can be a little sluggish sometimes but it’s much better than say a Chrome-cast dongle
I got a TCL TV a couple years ago, thinking I was just getting something cheap and disposable. But I was pleasantly surprised! First, the interface was more responsive than other TVs I'd used. That might sound like a small thing, but it's actually huge. And I had no idea what the "Roku" thing was supposed to be but it means I'm getting free ad-supported TV and movies. I particularly like that it's not just the latest generic content. I've been using it for the 1976 _Bionic Woman_ show and 1984's _Murder, She Wrote._
I have a 50" TCL in the Bedroom as a computer monitor and a 65" TCL in the Living Room as a computer monitor with surround sound. They are great. I know that better picture quality is out there but for the price these are hard to beat. Both have the Roku features that expand them beyond just being computer monitors.
TCL has a lot of software learning to do. I love the picture of my TCL mini LED bit I'm constantly having issues with the interface and issues with soundbar connectivity.
Vizio use to be the value leader. Look at CNET reviews from 10 years ago. But they were destined to fail the second their suppliers (e.g. TCL) decided to get into the game and undercut them as the middle man.
They both are Chinese-made. Chinese products are not well-known for their high-quality products. I want the highest quality products for my family and Chinese products are certainly not on my list.
I’m watching this video on my TCL tv with Roku and I absolutely love my tv I love how my picture looks, I love the flow of my tv, I love how easy the apps are to use, I thought the price point of the tv was excellent at $330 for a 55 inch 4k tv and I bought it several years ago it has gotten cheaper since I bought it. I’m super happy with my TCL purchase.
The only problem with a TCL/Hisense is that it's an extremely good panel but the upscaling is not even close to what a samsung or sony offers. Native content plays great but since there isn't a lot of native high resolution content available, so since you are relying on upscaling for watching sports/live tv or watching content via netflix which is known to notoriously save bandwidth by streaming at 1440p to 4K screens and its very rare that you get a true 4K signal which is again not even close to bluray quality, so low bitrate native content. which is why you need to think your usecase and content consumption habits to know what kind of stuff you are looking for, going for a samsung means even 720p will look good on 4K panel, but 720p will look like 720p on a TCL/Hisense with close to no upscaling
I think you’re on to something, the extra magic that makes a good looking image is the video processing ASIC, whether it’s upscaling or adjusting colors, contrast, black levels on the fly. I have a 1080 Sony from 2008 and the image/color it presents is quite good. Maybe it could be better in the area of shadow detail, but it’s much better than cheap 4k tvs. And also not crushing whites.
You have no idea how well their upscaling has gotten. TCL and Hisense beat Samsung TV’s in upscaling depending on the model. Samsung’s flagship is basically equal
@@itwasntoptional5768 yeah mate it's called a "flagship" for a reason. They're supposed to be the best of the crop, TCL is up there but signal and image processor in a TV are key components, same as the panel
@@Ka11zer Yeah and as I just said TCL and Hisense are on par with Samsung’s flagship in upscaling as well as content smoothing. It’s not 2019 anymore buddy. They have good processors
Too bad Roku sorta forced arbitration with their newest updates and you can’t opt out of it. You can’t sue if there is a problem which is sorta worrying for future buyers.
I got a 2019 Samsung Q80R QLED that retails at $1,500 and I got it at a used TV store for $800 and I love everything about this TV. I don't think I'll ever get another brand of TV again but TCL might be my second choice. I really just wanted this TV so I could play games in 4K
Its not just the Panel that matters. The processor chip and Image processing algorithms matter. Thats why the TV quality differs between Sony, Samsung, and LG. LG's image processing being the furthest behind (opinion).
I live in the netherlands, grouping tvs here by price then rating them within the price bands, the only competition for TCL is Philips here, but that's because they don't have import tariffs. they're assembled here, mostly from inhouse parts as far as i can tell.
The last thing mentioned - practicality - is why TCL is dominating. But, it's NOT like how the video portrays it. The real reason TCL is dominating is because nowadays, people who are buying expensive TVs (anything over $600-$1000) are buying long extended warranties from the retailers. For example I just bought a 98 inch 4k TV set for a corporate conference room and it's TCL. I bought it from Best Buy and got a 5 year warranty on it because when you spend that much money on something you do not want it to fail in a year and a day right after the manufacturer's warranty runs out. Instead if it fails you want to go to the store and have them send 2 guys out who will take the monster off the wall and put a replacement up. You get that if you get the store warranty. So in that class of TV's the stores are going to only stock brands that don't have a high failure rate. I bought the TCL tv because that was the only brand the retailer stocked in that class and price range, and the reason it was the only brand in that class and price range is because the store doesn't want to stock TVs that most buyers are going to get a store warranty on that have a high failure rate.
TCL was already making TV components . Reminds me of an Indian company called samtel which made parts for CRT tvs They started selling tvs in India and immediately captured the market with really cheap price and bulk order deals. Almost every hotel in India back in the days of CRT were samtel
As someone who works in sales with TVs TCL is an easy sell. Not only do they undercut the larger band names and offer the same quality, the commission they pay is so much better than the traditional brand names that there is next to no point trying to upsell.
The rise of Chinese brands is unstoppable. They have entered the Smart market with (Xiaomi,Huawei) , the PC and Laptop market with Lenovo and now the TV market with TCL. If the things go on like this for a long time then soon the western brands could not complete with the chinese brands.
I love to see TCL and now Hisense dominating the budget and mid tv category. Now that vizio is bought by walmart, its wild to think they can now have a higher reputation than a big brand. Great to see huge reductions in LCD tvs. Cant wait for a similar time for OLEDs or some other self emmissive tech 🙏🏾🙏🏾
our first Tv was TCL crt tv and it's still siting in a corner and works fine when plugged in. If it is not working, you just need to smack the side and viola it works again.
It's just like Huawei, they started as an economical option but really put the R&D to offer the same features as the more premium TVs, I bought a QLED TV from them on black friday for $400 and I'm blown away by the quality
As someone who still owns a 3D TV and watches 3D movies (Dredd, Mad Max: Fury Road, G.I.T.S 2017) I will not take this 3D slander lying down, I will sit instead 🙃
lmao the fear-mongering from the media has gotten the masses into extreme paranoia, so that is the ccp all the way across the pacific gonna do with your porn watching habits ? Nothing lmao if staying off grid is impossible i rather have a foreign government spying on me than the NSA
You got a point about early TCL tvs. I had a few and the brightness and viewing angles were horrible and definitely issues with blacklight bleeding. It left me with the feeling that TCL = bargain Chinese knockoff tvs. Obviously they've improved quite a bit. We'll see how things go when my current Samsung goes out
I feel like I'm overdue for a tv upgrade. Im watching this on a 14 year old 50' vizio tv that I bought from best buy that was used as a floor display model. Been a good tv for all the years of use I've put on it but it definitely shows that its not up to par anymore when it comes picture quality.
Sony also uses Samsung OLED panels for their high-end models like the A95K and A95L. These models are superior to Samsung's models that use the same panels, as they have a better processor, better heatsink on the back of the screen to cool and extend the lifespan of the panel, and they license Dolby Vision so you can watch the highest quality HDR content. Samsung still doesn't license Dolby Vision and most titles don't have HDR10+, so you're almost always limited to standard HDR on Samsung TVs. I believe most reviewers rate the Sony XR-77A95L as the absolute best TV currently available.
I got a super deal on a TCL Q7 55". (Even at the regular current price it would have been a great deal.) Love this TV! :) Great product ... great quality!
Watching this on my 48" tcl! The remote is a bit crappy, but the picture is good, it has 4k and android tv built in. Been solid for 4 years now (old tv in the loft just in case 🤞). Paid £270 for it iirc which was the cheapest there was on amazon for the size
On topic, last summer we bought a new home and I had to get a cheapo TV for the second living room. I was targeting 42 - 50 inch Android based TV for as cheap as possible. I ended up with a QLED 58 inch TCL, the image is amazing, it's full of features and I prefer it to my other TV that I paid 3x as much a year before 😖. Its only downside is that its SoC is probably a bit too slow or does not have enough RAM so some apps are not as responsive on it. Still, this is an amazing product.
TCL often uses pretty stock android tv, the chips that run the software are actually pretty deccent and its smooth, they have pretty good tv panels, theyre very price competitive and there arent any much bigger drawbacks than other brands.Theyve exploited the economy of scale with mass productions, without sacrificing on quality
I used to sell TVs at Walmart, and TCL/Vizio were top sellers, which accurately reflected the budget buyers at the store. Side-by-side, looking hard enough, TCL and Hisense were inferior to Samsung and LG, but the TCL/Hisense had unbeatable prices.
To start out, TCL had good enough TVs at very attractive prices. Not too cheap and not too expensive. Now, TCL has the scale and the technology to go big and bring top-tier technology at Samsung, LG, and Sony's level. A major factor to TCL's insane growth is that the Chinese government/provincial governments were known to provide cheap loans to promote industrial production. Building new factories and equipping them is a highly capital intensive. TCL effectively had unlimited loans in their ascendancy, so TCL could lose money without consequences to gain market share until they can compete at Samsung or LG's level.
What percentage of the TCL tvs carried the Roku OS? I bet it's a pretty high number. Also, Chris Larson (the TCL executive mentioned in the video) moved over to Roku a while ago.
so, you telling me if i'm selling 85 inch TV for $20, i can beat TCL?
@@jensenraylight8011 Similar quality and lifespan with super low prices. Then, it's possible. Scaling up manufacturing to that make sub-$100 MSRP 85-Inch TVs would be insane. Next, build a reliable logistical support network for RMAs. Then, you would need a lender (government or massive financial company) to bankroll your losses until you become profitable.
@@jensenraylight8011if you can do that long enough and do not go bankrupt, you sure can
@@jensenraylight8011 The key is "surviving" until you get profit.
There are tens of Chinese company that failed. It's like a VC really. Invest in 100 and hope that 1 will succeed to cover the 100 lost.
Ive had a TCL TV since 2017 and its still running like a champ! Honestly kinda blown away by this brand and how decent the quality is at that price.
I don't have any quality complaints about TCL TV.
TCL durability 15.000 hours, If you use your TV for 3 hours every day you can be sure that it will be damaged within 10 years if there is no electricity problem.
Samsung, LG, Sony, sharp, toshiba, panasonic durability over 20.000 hours. And actually, if we compare the image quality with the same resolution, TCL loses to Korean and Japanese brands tv
@@AquaSmartTV
SONY TV is not that durable.
I have a friend who likes SONY very much, but his TV has only been used for less than five years. Because of the high repair price, he finally gave up and bought a Hisense.
@@AquaSmartTV I don't think that anyone cares if their tv lasts longer than 10 years or not. By that time your TV has been long outdated anyways
I have a TCL and I think it is a high quality tv at a low price.
TCL is one the best TVs I've had, it's such a bang for your buck and it shows how welcoming new companies to a niched market can be great overall!
Yeah agreed. They really transformed the entrenched TV industry for the better!
Same
I got a 50 inch 4k TCL TV for like $350 almost 8 years ago when 4k TV were at minimum $500-$1000. Only just upgraded to a bigger TV last year. TCL is definitely the value brand.
TCL may be great value but Sony is best quality. I would honestly would rather pay a little more for the quality considering tvs last for years.
Plus TCL isn’t gunna stay this way forever
I agree. They offer a great product at a great price. I pretty much only recommend and buy TCL & Ffalcon (TCL's budget brand) TV's these days. I also don't connect it to the internet (I connect my PC and/or a Fire TV stick to it), so I'm not overly concerned that it is a Chinese company.
I bought a TCL TV in 2018 to use as a desk monitor and it still works perfectly, all day, every day. I'm almost sad it's still fine because it'd be nice to upgrade but I can't justify replacing my 55" 4k monitor with a slightly better 55" 4k monitor
Hahaha, what a problem to have :)
I bought a TCL series 4 4k 55" TV (Android version) and use it as a monitor. Works great. The only thing I hate is the Remote they have like no buttons/functionality. As far as the TV I actually bought 2 of them the same day as Best Buy had a sale and they were only $250... how can ya go wrong with that deal. I put the other one in my bedroom. The only other complaint is that the Wifi drops the connection more than it should. So the negatives for me are the remote and the Wifi as far as the image I think its great. It would be better if Windows had less problems with scaling issues for apps/programs
You use a 55" tv as a monitor? Mad man 😂
@@busterscrugs it's like having 4x 27" monitors mounted in a grid, except without any borders!
Saying something you bought in 2018 is still working perfectly to this day kind of gives me a sense of disappointment. My grandparents had an old Zenith wooden console in the basement that still worked at 30 years old. Today's electronics are crap when it comes to quality components.
I use a 10 year old, 22" desktop monitor that I picked up on clearance. When this one dies (if I can't repair it), I'll be getting another used monitor.
Fair enough
It knows its place, and won't screw you over following internet commands from its masters over the internet
I see the people that spend 2k on a pc and use a 50$ monitor to see what that pc outputs lol
I use my phone 😬 i only watch yt and rumble tho
Here is a medal 🏅
TCL was never an unknown brand for me. I remember my older brother and my dad bring a massive black TCL CRT TV in the early 2000's. It looked massive for its time and worked with no issues. The only issue was that the remote was pretty fragile and had to be replaced every few years. In the early 2010's when my brother got married he got the CRT as a hand me down and we got a new LCD TV. Even then, the TV kept working for years. Probably 15+ years. So the TCL TV brand was a good brand to me even though I didn't know anyone else with the same brand of TV. I can only imagine that they got better with their TVs!
We had a TCL 39 inch tv, and its 7 yeArs old it is still functioning asf.
Its outdated with the smart tv of today, but with the help of tv stick, we can watch netflix no problem.
Glad to hear that man!
Outdated is a feature. It knows its place.
To be fair, no one ever asked for more features than being able to stream to the tv
almost every TV runs over 7 years perfectly.... it's not a phone bro lol
When I buy TCL electrical appliances, I never worry about quality.
First time bought a P series in 2019. Wich is the cheap, entry level series. In Romania, they are quite new on the market. But i gambled. And i won. Now, i bought a second one, but this time it's a top notch C845. Wow. With a bit of tuning, i'm geting close to oled black, but at half the price. Not to mention i bought to pair it with PS5. It has all the goodies : miniled qled, 4k, 144hz, ALLM, VRR, 240hz game boost, Game master, dolby atmos and vision, HDR10+, 2000 nits brightness. the 55" model has 376 local dimming zones. The top 85" version has 976. So, no backlight bleeding&shit. This is the best bang for the buck.
same i got a TCL miniled last year in winter ,55 C805 miniled for almost half the price i paid like 5-6 years ago for a middle tier, lcd tv from Panasonic , and side by side its way better that that older Panasonic tv , much better contrast ,black level , brightness , colors and 0 stutter in apps + tone of new features . that tv was a Panasonic CX 680 so not a bad one by any means .
Not to meantion i manage i got 5y warranty for it si in this current tv market in my country this tv felt like a steal ^^
Bought a 55 inch TLC mini-led quantum dot for 800 euros 2 years ago. The image is great. It's in a very bright room so I went mini-led instead of Oled. No regrets.
4:30: The Apple Brand does carry substantially more weight -- the Vision Pro is HEAVY!
Facts, literally
@@LogicallyAnswered
Yet Apple failed at producing an EV while Huawei and Xiaomi succeeded !
I bought a sony bravia in 2013 for about $2500. It suddenly wouldn't turn on in 2020 and the repair center said there would be no timetable for when it would be fixed since it's an old model and they had to scavenge their warehouse for a model similar to it for parts and it was the start of the pandemic lockdowns. I bought a similarly sized $400 TCL without expectation since I was on a budget. 4 years on, it's still up and running and my sony ended up getting junked because they couldn't find any parts.
Trash quality 🤮
I had the same issue. Bought a Sony TV in 2019 and it died after 3 years (it had a big green box that kept getting bigger), meanwhile the TCL TV I bought in 2016 is still going strong. These days I only buy TCL & Ffalcon (TCL's budget brand) TV's.
TVs will last on average 8years now. it’s not surprising your Sony died, it was at the end of its life
My Sony x900e died at 7 years. Barely worth it. I say pay under 1,000.00 only pay 1,500 for OLED. Then buy the 5 year warranty for peace of mind at Best Buy.
@@KenjiEspresso yeah , a lot of people expect their TVs to last 10-20 years like the old ones used to.. and that’s why they don’t get the protection plan/extended warranty. Either that or they just say they’ll buy another when it dies.
I have to say I've always been a Sony fan for my tvs and my wife decided to buy the family a new TV for the living room and got a TCL 55" TV to replace our 46" Sony TV. I was a little mad at the start for not speaking to me about it but she wanted to get something as a surprise so could not be to mad. That said I've been nothing but impressed with it. The Android OS and TV is very fast, picture quality is very good and so far I've had no issues. It's definitely made me rethink what I will get when I look at upgrading to my next TV.
TCL makes great TVs! I currently have a 23' Q7 75" display and I love it!
We have a 65", 55", and 40" TCL TVs currently. Ever since 2014, not once did the brand fail us.
This video is incomplete without mentioning RokuOS that most TCL tvs used to carry. A huge part of their popularity can be attributed to them adopting the Roku OS early on. Also, Chris Larson doesn't work at TCL no more, hes at Roku today.
If it doesn't have Android TV OS, it's useless in these days, you need proper support for FHD or 4K and corporations like Disney will not allow you to watch full quality on some "weird OSL," they won't allow it neither on PC with Windows anymore. This problem with streaming wars went already too far and it has to stop.
Roku is terrible, and is the one reason I don't like the TCL TV I have
I made sure I picked the Android tv tcl rather than roku and I'm glad! (can sideload apps and do usual android things)
@@beko1987 The fact that you have to care about what operating system your TV has is ridiculous, I don't want to live in this time, I want 90s back. 😀
Too bad I was a teen then @@Pidalin. The $$$$$$ was really circulating then, thru all levels.
I just want to take a moment and thank you for your informative videos!
7:12 Lenovo is Chinese, but ASUS and Acer are both Taiwanese companies. They are most certainly NOT backed by CCP.
Alot of Lenovo management are not Chinese though so they don't get as much attention. They also aren't totally centred in China
Lenovoo bought IBM Desktop department .hence the quality and the name thinkpad etc
Asus, Acer and Foxconn are Chinese lol. I'm not talking politic I am stating their race.
Of course Taiwan says they are not China and China says Taiwan is China but they are Chinese race.
Much like Jews says they are not Arabs but they are
Seems CCP live rent free in your head, good luck man 😂
Technically, ASUS and Acer are companies from the Republic of China so they’re Chinese.
yay more tech videos!
Indeed
Amazing video just bought a new TCL TV the other day so looking forward to it when it arrives such a good purchase and very exciting✊👊💪💪
Watching this on a TCL tv peak meta
Great video as always
Thank you as always Balpreet!
Just got me a TCL TV today and im never going back to Samsung after this.
Android TV, Neo-QLED, Dolby Vision, FreeSync VRR, 55 inches, a reasonable price and the list goes on
which specific model and how much
It's been nice. The shortest run from this channel, but still a nice one
I bought a Vizio TV and it broke a while back. It wasn’t even a 4k. I recently got a TCL 42 inch 4K TV and it works perfectly. Great television, and it was inexpensive as well compared to other brands.
Whenever I see you've uploaded, it brightens my day. Always very interesting subjects and I love the pace and delivery. Great job!
Really glad to hear that man :)
I bought a TCL back in 2018 it was their mid tier I forgot the exact model but has 4K HDR with Dolby vision. I’m stunned how well the picture quality has held up and the Roku OS never hiccuped on me. My dad bought a Vizio 75 inch in 2021 and it honestly started to degrade after year, the backlight started to fail to the point like last year or so dark scenes were impossible to watch. So Vizio definitely living up to the their horrible reputation while TCL made me not hesitate again to buy their TVs
i've had two 50 inch vizios back to back in the last 10 years or so and both times the tv's died around the 5 to 6 year mark which seemed ok for what i paid but this time i bought a tcl and i gotta say i'm impressed with the image quality. wish i would've bought a tier above the 4 series instead.
I have TCL 65 inch probably old model but it is working insanely good. Still loved. I bought it in SKorea.
Next make a story about the rise of Haier Appliances. Another success story you could talk about.
Good content. Yes, you're right about other brands outsource to other companies.
TCL should be proud. I am also using a TCL tv with QLED. Amazing display.
Hey man I like your content ❤❤
Really glad to hear that Sukunatensho!
We bought a 32 inch TCL LCD around 5 years ago for 145usd.
It has been hanging there since then because the motherboard fried after the warranty was over. And we haven't been able to find a replacement part in the market either.
So, there's that about TCL
TCL seems to be really good for the average consumer who wants decent PQ without paying $$$.
Will not buy an LCD TV though - Only TV I'd ever consider buying these days is an OLED or other self-emissive/per pixel lighting display - which is still likely some time from TCL, at least in the >80" range. I might consider a 100"+ LCD TV for my projector space .... but it won't fit in my doorway/stairwell :(
I had (well still own but don't use anymore) a TCL 42" 4K tv which I used as a monitor for several years. I've since updated to a Sony 65" for my living room and an 55" LG OLED for my bedroom but TCL is surely the best bang for the buck along with Hisense.
I came from well known TV brands like my old Toshiba Plasma, Samsung LED. Unfortunately the Samsung TV from 2015 stopped powering on so I had to pickup another TV. I was skeptical about Chinese brands like Hisense and TCL. So I started following reviews on the TCL QM8 from various YTubers I follow.
Not seeing the TV in person but impressed with the price, reviews and how close the QM8 was compared to previous years OLEDs I pulled the trigger last August and still amazed on how the TV performs. Although it’s not an exact match for the ultra detailed black levels, motion clarity and specular highlights like typical OLEDs, the high brightness levels, not having to baby-sit the TV to avoid burn and lower costs per size of the TV in was my selling point.
There are some cons such as the QM8 UI is not ultra snappy like my Samsung or ATV. It takes a bit for the UI to be fully loaded and functional. Which is pretty disappointing for TCL’s flagship line. Seems as if the software updates have been slowing things down compared to day one of ownership.
Overall it was a good bargain.
Another runner up is skyworth. Their the number 1 manufacturer and supplier of TV panels for the top brands today
Absolutely love my 85” TCL QM8 and Hisense 100” U8K(only paid $2999 brand new). I even own the LG 77 inch C1 and these new value brands are incredible for performance/price, I’m done with OLED until the pricing is cheaper and if they get bigger.
2:07 that timestamp is the MAIN reason why I went back to Samsung unfortunately...most TCL's give of a slight "fingerprint " effect in the screens background. I seen it instantly when it first powered on. I changed all type of settings(some has a lack of adv. video Settings) and still the same effect in the background...had to take 2 back and just went back with my 55" Samsung.
P.s.
Look on the left side of the cartoon being played...sky blue background.
Just bought a TCL QM7 last week. It’s scheduled to arrive in less than 2 days!
I have one panasonic and one samsung tv in my home. Both over a decade old. Both work perfectly.
Good’ne Hari - recently bought a 65” LG TV for $450 delivered.
As we’re likely to go bigger for our next one, we now have our eyes on TCL …good stuff!
I think the secret to their success is they offer mid-range TV's with high range level specs and performance. It's really hard to beat TCL pricing and quality . Though recently Hisense has been making a play at it and seems to be doing pretty well. It's even more aggressive with specs and pricing sometimes... though their picture processing and QA seem to be slightly behind TCL. but it's getting their. Every year they get a bit closer to narrowing the gap.
TCL mini LED is the real deal. Good enough not to miss OLED
How about TCL vs Hisense?
It's not that Vizio had bad quality per se, they have poor support and poor software. My 2021 PQX looks phenomenal still but they literally broke some features and made it unstable and still have failed to fix it with a software update. Their biggest mistake was trying to compete with the higher end tvs lik OLED. They forget half the value on the higher end is support and features, they go together. You can't slap a 3000nit panel and call it high end.
I bought a TCL back in 2016. It wasn't great, but it was cheap. Really shocks me to hear how far they've come.
Holy crap, I wish I had the space and money for a new TV right now, 85” on sale for $1499 CAD.
Hari, you've convinced me to seriously consider a TCL for my next TV.
Hahaha, hope it works well man :)
Bought a TCL Smart TV way back in 2020 for 200USD. Still going strong.
How is their software updates? My Sony TV got an update 8 years after release
TCL uses Roku OS, the one that LG uses, the software update will be up to Roku but I don't think it will be a problem. I also have an older Sony TV and the Android TV OS on them was absolutely atrocious, it's so much less responsive than what's on LG and TCL. Plus nowadays you really only need the TV OS for audio/visual configuration, a Chromecast or Apple TV unit will be better for media consumption.
Honestly you're better off never connecting your TV to the internet
@@metalfly.Android TV is the reason I favored Sony. It’s better than Samsung’s proprietary tv OS and in my opinion better than Roku in terms of being an integrated TV experience.
It can be a little sluggish sometimes but it’s much better than say a Chrome-cast dongle
@@My_Old_YT_Account then what’s the point of having a tv
@@dennisp8520 Watching tv? Playing video games? Both from their own boxes plugged through HDMI?
The rise of BoE LCD panels which in turn has involved the rise of TCL, SkyWorth/Metz/Coocaa, Visio and Hisense ))
I got a TCL TV a couple years ago, thinking I was just getting something cheap and disposable. But I was pleasantly surprised! First, the interface was more responsive than other TVs I'd used. That might sound like a small thing, but it's actually huge. And I had no idea what the "Roku" thing was supposed to be but it means I'm getting free ad-supported TV and movies. I particularly like that it's not just the latest generic content. I've been using it for the 1976 _Bionic Woman_ show and 1984's _Murder, She Wrote._
I have a 50" TCL in the Bedroom as a computer monitor and a 65" TCL in the Living Room as a computer monitor with surround sound. They are great. I know that better picture quality is out there but for the price these are hard to beat. Both have the Roku features that expand them beyond just being computer monitors.
TCL has a lot of software learning to do. I love the picture of my TCL mini LED bit I'm constantly having issues with the interface and issues with soundbar connectivity.
After many years fanboy of LG and Sony i purchased 65 TCL miniled 4k 144 hz tv for 1200 euro and i love it
I would like to see videos on companies like Toshiba, Fujitsu, htc, GE, Sharp, Philips, Compaq, RCA
Vizio use to be the value leader. Look at CNET reviews from 10 years ago. But they were destined to fail the second their suppliers (e.g. TCL) decided to get into the game and undercut them as the middle man.
Ah makes sense
They both are Chinese-made. Chinese products are not well-known for their high-quality products. I want the highest quality products for my family and Chinese products are certainly not on my list.
Walmart bought Vizio brand, so it will now be a Walmart exclusive item !
@@3811eric You have no idea what "Quality" even means buddy ...go back into your hole !
You sound smarter with your mouth sealed @@3811eric
Had bought a TCL in the pandemic and does amazing! I wish we could have the cheap EVs from CN too....
I’m watching this video on my TCL tv with Roku and I absolutely love my tv I love how my picture looks, I love the flow of my tv, I love how easy the apps are to use, I thought the price point of the tv was excellent at $330 for a 55 inch 4k tv and I bought it several years ago it has gotten cheaper since I bought it. I’m super happy with my TCL purchase.
The only problem with a TCL/Hisense is that it's an extremely good panel but the upscaling is not even close to what a samsung or sony offers. Native content plays great but since there isn't a lot of native high resolution content available, so since you are relying on upscaling for watching sports/live tv or watching content via netflix which is known to notoriously save bandwidth by streaming at 1440p to 4K screens and its very rare that you get a true 4K signal which is again not even close to bluray quality, so low bitrate native content. which is why you need to think your usecase and content consumption habits to know what kind of stuff you are looking for, going for a samsung means even 720p will look good on 4K panel, but 720p will look like 720p on a TCL/Hisense with close to no upscaling
I think you’re on to something, the extra magic that makes a good looking image is the video processing ASIC, whether it’s upscaling or adjusting colors, contrast, black levels on the fly. I have a 1080 Sony from 2008 and the image/color it presents is quite good. Maybe it could be better in the area of shadow detail, but it’s much better than cheap 4k tvs. And also not crushing whites.
You have no idea how well their upscaling has gotten. TCL and Hisense beat Samsung TV’s in upscaling depending on the model. Samsung’s flagship is basically equal
@@itwasntoptional5768 yeah mate it's called a "flagship" for a reason. They're supposed to be the best of the crop, TCL is up there but signal and image processor in a TV are key components, same as the panel
@@Ka11zer Yeah and as I just said TCL and Hisense are on par with Samsung’s flagship in upscaling as well as content smoothing. It’s not 2019 anymore buddy. They have good processors
our first smart TV was TCL. still works perfectly for almost a decade. surprisingly Netflix still works on this TV.
Just bought Tcl c845 here at the philippines. Waiting for the delivery nextweek. Thank you for the information😄.
Too bad Roku sorta forced arbitration with their newest updates and you can’t opt out of it. You can’t sue if there is a problem which is sorta worrying for future buyers.
Do you go around suing software companies often?
I got a 2019 Samsung Q80R QLED that retails at $1,500 and I got it at a used TV store for $800 and I love everything about this TV. I don't think I'll ever get another brand of TV again but TCL might be my second choice. I really just wanted this TV so I could play games in 4K
I bought a 32 inch tcl in the early 2010 s even before smart tv's and 1080 was even a thing and it still works
I'm fine with my LG C2 4K OLED TV, I love it for watching movies and as gaming monitor!
Its not just the Panel that matters. The processor chip and Image processing algorithms matter. Thats why the TV quality differs between Sony, Samsung, and LG. LG's image processing being the furthest behind (opinion).
I live in the netherlands, grouping tvs here by price then rating them within the price bands, the only competition for TCL is Philips here, but that's because they don't have import tariffs. they're assembled here, mostly from inhouse parts as far as i can tell.
The last thing mentioned - practicality - is why TCL is dominating. But, it's NOT like how the video portrays it. The real reason TCL is dominating is because nowadays, people who are buying expensive TVs (anything over $600-$1000) are buying long extended warranties from the retailers. For example I just bought a 98 inch 4k TV set for a corporate conference room and it's TCL. I bought it from Best Buy and got a 5 year warranty on it because when you spend that much money on something you do not want it to fail in a year and a day right after the manufacturer's warranty runs out. Instead if it fails you want to go to the store and have them send 2 guys out who will take the monster off the wall and put a replacement up. You get that if you get the store warranty. So in that class of TV's the stores are going to only stock brands that don't have a high failure rate. I bought the TCL tv because that was the only brand the retailer stocked in that class and price range, and the reason it was the only brand in that class and price range is because the store doesn't want to stock TVs that most buyers are going to get a store warranty on that have a high failure rate.
Watching the video in a 10 year old TCL TV which works perfectly. Amazing quality.
I bought a 55 TCL TV in 2023 the QLED C735
Nice to dear Hitman in your video 👍
TCL was already making TV components .
Reminds me of an Indian company called samtel which made parts for CRT tvs
They started selling tvs in India and immediately captured the market with really cheap price and bulk order deals. Almost every hotel in India back in the days of CRT were samtel
As someone who works in sales with TVs TCL is an easy sell. Not only do they undercut the larger band names and offer the same quality, the commission they pay is so much better than the traditional brand names that there is next to no point trying to upsell.
i wish TCL will come to south Asia .here TCL like brand will thrive like xiomi did
The rise of Chinese brands is unstoppable. They have entered the Smart market with (Xiaomi,Huawei) , the PC and Laptop market with Lenovo and now the TV market with TCL. If the things go on like this for a long time then soon the western brands could not complete with the chinese brands.
Don’t worry - Trump tariffs will ruin TCLs appeal in the US market
TCL was already in the budget market since the early 2000s under the RCA and big box store own brands. Also heavily subsidised by their government.
Not just TV's but they're innovating in phones and tablets too. I just bought the TCL nxtpaper 40. Excited to try it
This sounds great and all. But I’ll stick with LG & Samsung
Made by TCL the rebranding 😅
@@TrevnasAt this point I’ll be fine with a TCL panel with Sony or LG badge and I’ll pretend it’s from their panel
I love to see TCL and now Hisense dominating the budget and mid tv category. Now that vizio is bought by walmart, its wild to think they can now have a higher reputation than a big brand. Great to see huge reductions in LCD tvs. Cant wait for a similar time for OLEDs or some other self emmissive tech 🙏🏾🙏🏾
our first Tv was TCL crt tv and it's still siting in a corner and works fine when plugged in. If it is not working, you just need to smack the side and viola it works again.
Can you also share some info on Hisense TV?
It's just like Huawei, they started as an economical option but really put the R&D to offer the same features as the more premium TVs, I bought a QLED TV from them on black friday for $400 and I'm blown away by the quality
TCL focused on data collection and at the same time, providing decent quality and lower priced item.
Hmmm
@@LogicallyAnswered Also the ROKU issue. ROKU basically can now hold your TV hostage even after purchase.
I thought all of them do similar to subsidize their "cheaper" smart TVs
As someone who still owns a 3D TV and watches 3D movies (Dredd, Mad Max: Fury Road, G.I.T.S 2017) I will not take this 3D slander lying down, I will sit instead 🙃
Watching this on my tcl tv
Haha me tooo
Same
Hahaha
The only thing I would be worried about is software in the TV that reports back to the CCP.
lmao the fear-mongering from the media has gotten the masses into extreme paranoia, so that is the ccp all the way across the pacific gonna do with your porn watching habits ? Nothing lmao if staying off grid is impossible i rather have a foreign government spying on me than the NSA
as opposed to reporting back to NSA or similar....the censorship and data collection in the west is 100x higher than what is in china.
the tv must be a ccp member
Another one obsessed with CCP and spreading misinformation
You got a point about early TCL tvs. I had a few and the brightness and viewing angles were horrible and definitely issues with blacklight bleeding. It left me with the feeling that TCL = bargain Chinese knockoff tvs. Obviously they've improved quite a bit. We'll see how things go when my current Samsung goes out
I feel like I'm overdue for a tv upgrade. Im watching this on a 14 year old 50' vizio tv that I bought from best buy that was used as a floor display model. Been a good tv for all the years of use I've put on it but it definitely shows that its not up to par anymore when it comes picture quality.
Sony also uses Samsung OLED panels for their high-end models like the A95K and A95L. These models are superior to Samsung's models that use the same panels, as they have a better processor, better heatsink on the back of the screen to cool and extend the lifespan of the panel, and they license Dolby Vision so you can watch the highest quality HDR content. Samsung still doesn't license Dolby Vision and most titles don't have HDR10+, so you're almost always limited to standard HDR on Samsung TVs. I believe most reviewers rate the Sony XR-77A95L as the absolute best TV currently available.
I’m a major TV junkie, always watching the pros talk about TVs on TH-cam, and TCL is demanding for people to put respect on their name !!!!
LG. You mean the LG that sells fridges that don't work and says you can't sue them? I have no tears for LG.
You act like TCL isn’t just as bad as a company same with Vizio.
I have LG appliances and have been content with them and have had no issues so far.
@@dennisp8520 Where in this comment did I support TCL? I'd never heard of them until this video. Maybe you're the one "acting"
@@vincei4252 just another sinophobe, ignored
My LG fridge freezer still works perfectly after 14 years. Never had any other make that lasted so long.
TCL. Do you mean the TCL that sells cheap copycat QLED TVs? I will never buy any copycat products.
I got a super deal on a TCL Q7 55". (Even at the regular current price it would have been a great deal.) Love this TV! :) Great product ... great quality!
Watching this on my 48" tcl! The remote is a bit crappy, but the picture is good, it has 4k and android tv built in. Been solid for 4 years now (old tv in the loft just in case 🤞). Paid £270 for it iirc which was the cheapest there was on amazon for the size
I got a 75” series 6 last year when it was in its second year, so worth the price when looking at other 4K 120hz panels being 2k+
On topic, last summer we bought a new home and I had to get a cheapo TV for the second living room. I was targeting 42 - 50 inch Android based TV for as cheap as possible.
I ended up with a QLED 58 inch TCL, the image is amazing, it's full of features and I prefer it to my other TV that I paid 3x as much a year before 😖. Its only downside is that its SoC is probably a bit too slow or does not have enough RAM so some apps are not as responsive on it.
Still, this is an amazing product.
I can hardly tell the difference between these 4K TV models but I can definitely tell the difference of price
In just 8 decade.... Dude 80 years is long time.....
8:19
Is that JerryRigEverything at the bottom middle with the camera facing him?
Yes, he is
Yes
TCL often uses pretty stock android tv, the chips that run the software are actually pretty deccent and its smooth, they have pretty good tv panels, theyre very price competitive and there arent any much bigger drawbacks than other brands.Theyve exploited the economy of scale with mass productions, without sacrificing on quality
own a TCL, they have good 3 years waranty for panels. and not 1 time replacement policy. no mater how many times, they will replace within 3 years.